The $100,000 GT2 RS Tire Change
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- I stand by my statements past, that center lock wheels are not an option you should ever want on a street car. Here is what happens when a simple several hundred dollar tire change turns into a $100k nightmare.
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And that is why you don't take a $300,000+ new car to a "tire shop."
You take it to the dealership.
I was thinking the same damn thing.
Or to a good aftermarket garage.
Even dealerships suck.
Absolutely!! I only have the dealer install and mount tires on my GT3, as I want the full backing of Porsche if something gets damaged
Glen has the correct title for this video!!
Ashish Patel
Yes, the dealer mechanics can definitely suck, but the dealer or manufacture would have covered the repair.
Rob has a 45lb grip on my t-shirt that he never sent me yet obviously 🙄
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Pistol Pete I didn’t get mine either :?.
gizzymoee
Did you get your money back? I didn’t!!!
No I never, pissed off really. It’s not a lot of money, but it is a lot of money when you get nothing in return -.-
gizzymoee
Exactly!!! I emailed him and got one back, even said I’d pick it up when I’ll be over there in December but got nothing back.. I was going to rent a couple of cars on the Christmas week but I think I’ll use someone that give a shit to be honest..
The shop should have to pay for the damage to the car, they caused it due to negligence.
Yeah, they'll pay, eventually. Probably dont even have the $100k on hand. Figure theyll fight it for as long as they can to avoid having to pay.
Legal fight had no ending... Shop insurance don't cover that much....
Captain obvious? That you?
When Samcrac overfilled his Ferrari with oil I thought of you
comment of the day. It's barely 10 am where I live
HAHAHA.
I watched Samcrac overfill his car before I found Robs channel. Samcrac lives close to where I live.
@@mikeworkman3593 funny Rob lives close to me 😂
@@ashishpatel350 Yeah, everytime Sam goes for a test drive, I try and figure out which road he lives near, lol. Maybe I'll 'drop by' lol and say "WAT UP!"
lmao.
I did send him a DM or email asking if he needed a hand repairing his stuff, like a sidekick, for free. I'm a master mech, and I might be able to teach him a few things, plus I want to be famous lol.
Ashish Patel mike Keith what part of Florida are y’all in? I live in Fort Walton Beach
Mr Spaghetti says - "My strong, Italian hands are all the tools I need!" -
when you own a car like that and say im coming after you with a lawyer, they mean it 110%.
'shop will end up paying.
Gcal1956 or they’ll file for insolvency and shut down for a few weeks before reopening with a new name
@@stuf3804 that's when you hire a leg breaker.
Hire the Undertaker! Prior to Wrestling, he worked as a guy who shall we say, persuaded folks who owed money to pay! He shows up at the tire shop in his wrestling attire , they may pay rather quickly!
Pray to god they aren't the lawyer because there's a good chance they are. LOL
@@venom5809
Hahaha!!! Forreal tho huh!!!
This an extreme case of why I and only I work on my cars. There's so many people that work at shops that either have no clue what they are doing or just don't care no matter how much money you throw at them.
The problem is the shops are cheap as hell and technicians are underpaid. That is why most people work at a shop for a few years and build their own shop.
Agree. I had a really bad situation that costed me extra money. My oil pan had a type of cap from a radiator on It that was rubber. Fucked up thing Is this was the first oil change I had done at a shop In a long time and they told me nothing about how my oil plug was missing and basically stripped the bolt and decided to put that cap on and once I noticed I went back and got It fixed. But since I had no proof since that was the first oil change done to that car since I had bought It only a week earlier I had to pay for It. Now I am 100% sure that was some shady shit and won't be going back to that shop anymore. I thought I had found a good one but I was wrong, I found another one now that I have had an A/C compressor replaced on only so far, I won't be going for something simple I can do on my own ever again.
The problem is taking a very niche 300k supercar to shop that is either incompetent or ill equipped for the task. Often times I find that these wealthy folk like to cheap out on some things and cut corners. Probably didnt want to pay the porsche dealer $500 in labor or whatever.
If they had scrached my wheels I'd burn the shop down let alone this lol
People who buy a expensive Porsche would never work on there own car but apparently the guy who bought that Porsche was too cheap for the dealership maintenance and it ended up costing him a lot more in the end
Rob:"no stop, pulling out all the stops"
Porsche: huh?
Can't stop won't stop
He was looking for the words piece de resistance.
Same thing happened to me on a limo that I owned 14 pass Lincoln 10 ppl in the back on way to airport on I 75 n damn near ripped the quarter panel off
Well, doesn't pulling out all the stops mean there are no stops active? So, no stop.
Brakes need not apply
call the shop out, other people get hurt when u dont speak up.
I absolutely HATE when people won’t say who it is. Home improvement shows will show a house that the contractor did literally everything wrong and they don’t tell who it was and tons of people are still using this idiot because you wouldn’t say. I am at a loss here on this one. Why? Why on earth?
1Slamalama1 that is the only reasonable explanation. I can just imagine myself in the background of such a show with a sign calling out the wrongdoers HaHahaha!
Agreed, had a local shop that was mounting and balancing tires for $10 a pop. Wondered why it was such a good deal. Turns out they were doing the job so fast they just put in random amount of air in the tires. My Tires had 60 PSI in them and they were rated for 37! I went 80 MPH on the way home. Could have popped a tire! The shop needs to be called out!
Andrew Thats an exaggeration you would have been fine to drive on 60 p.s.i. for months it would’ve been really bumpy. The recommended pressure and max rated pressure aren’t the same thing.
Sometimes you get a bad employee or people make mistakes shit happens
Especially when you pull up at a rinky-dink tire place with your half $1 million dollar car asking for tires and Thay have never worked on a Porsche or a single lug car
But the car should have been fixed by the shop that made the mistake
If rob hearts this comment I’ll do a burnout for 5 minutes straight
Need proof.
superspeedersRob damn I didn’t think you’d respond tbh
Will sub for burnout!
You gotta do it now bro
You owe us a burn out.
You're not that strong Mr. Spaghetti. However, 45 ft-lbs is half as tight as normal 5 lug nuts/bolts should be tightened 🤣
Partial owners fault with the information provided. When you have a vehicle like this, don't just take it to any old shop because of price or location. I mean maybe it was an emergency, but still. Painful and costly mistake for everyone. If they can afford the car, and a lawyer to go after the shop, they can proably afford to take it to a dealership or speciality shop. (And any speciality shop should have the insurance coverage for total loss of any super car.)
Partial owner's fault? If the shop wasn't able to do it, they shouldn't have accepted the car in the first place. Since they even had the tools to remove the wheels, I'm sure this wasn't the first center lock wheels they've encountered. It wasn't torqued correctly. It doesn't take any kind of special skills to look up torque specs for a car and torque it down correctly.
@@sergiowolfpac Center lock tool comes with the car, they didn't have to provide it.
@@schultz787 agreed. But at the same time, we still call someone that graduated with a 2.0 GPA "Doctor". With a car like this, do your homework and make sure it's a shop that isn't just all talk.
@@sergiowolfpac places like BJs and Wal-Mart have wheel and tire centers. It doesn't mean they're any good at it. The shop was ignorant to take the job, but as i said, with the information provided, the customer took his vehicle there and agreed to let them do it for whatever reason.
@@schultz787 as it said in the video, this shop may not be insured for that level of damages either. We don't have enough info really. But I'm willing to bet if the shop cant cover a $100k bill with insurance, they shouldn't work on cars like that (but many smaller shops need to hire cheap labor, and can't afford to turn away any work). While it's not necessarily a customers responsibility to ask what the insurance is on lost or damaged cars (and vinwki has nightmare stories about under insured transporters), but you can get an idea about a place by the type and condition the building/equipment and customers cars are in before bringing your highly specialized Porche there.
And that is what happens when you go to a "tire shop" trying to save a few bucks on your GT2RS...
all that just to save a few hundred bucks
@@metalmaster76 few hundred, try only like $50 max to have a set of tires put on.
Home Hustlerz both of those numbers are pretty much the same. Who cares
You probably could but teach yourself the correct way of doing it n monitor or supervise the shop personally.. will never leave the shop alone to do it..
I’m a Porsche tech. The center locks are torqued to 444ft/lbs and de torqued 90 degrees. Then re torqued to 444ft/lbs. it takes 2 people to do. One torquing and another holding the brake pedal and steering wheel.
"current lap record holder at the ring"
SVJ says Hi.
Then after the SVJ beat the GT2 RS then Porsche released the GT2 RS MR with Manthey Racing's suspention tuning that then beat the SVJ Ring record...I believe?
@@sickjohnson Yes it did, but it was a modded car so officially the SVJ is still on top......Would still rather have the GT2...
@@bkscott2010ss You know that mod is a factory $100K option right?
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So you guys really believe car manufacturers take cars from their production line and take them to the ring without any modifications, huh? I'll only believe this to be true when a professional driver (non related to the company) can recreate it in a privately owned unmodified version of the same car.
45FtLb. Is 45 Pounds of pressure with a 1Ft. long wrench.
That's like 1/3rd of his body weight
If you have a 5ft Wrench (like the one he mentioned in the video) its just 9 pounds.
44lbs Ft, (torque) is 44Lbs hanging off the end of a 1ft long (horizontal) bar OR approx 6 Kilos hanging on the end of a 1 meter (horizontal) bar for the rest of the world.
I'm trying to think if the average person can do that by hand, my guess is no you'd need some kinda leverage but i always you a torque wrench
Jeffrey Rose just put all of your weight onto the bar
@@blackhawk7067 i said by hand.. not with bar lol... 150 ft/lbs with a bar isn't hard
after the litigation or settlement, I always like when someone can mention the shop (if thats legal for you to do). I live in the area so knowing places to stay clear from or if they make good on the issue is nice, but obviously getting in legal trouble yourself from ripping on them isnt worth it haha.
Reminds me of one of my first jobs when I was 18 at a tire shop. local major brand.. Western New York area. I was given limited training, and then allowed to touch customer cars unsupervised. Luckily I'm mechanically inclined. But there were a few guys that made a couple big oopsies. And I remember the tire shop trying to cover them up and Band-Aid them together when customers came back in with something wrong. Needless to say after I saw that I wasn't there very long. I quit because I was raised with integrity.
Today, Mr. Spaghetti tells us that some meatballs take a bit longer to cook than others🍝
Mr. Spaghetti : This is the GT2RS, the current record holder at the Nurburgring.
*SVJ has left the chat*
except only the tuned MR version *cough cough* can do it that fast, with race tyres
@@voterking cup 2 R tires
jon doe no it’s not
@jon doe r35 gtr is almost a minute slower :)
The capabilities of an average person to hand tighten a bolt that diameter is around 6-10 lbft
What lmao no I could easily get 45 ft pounds with a 12 an do easy 80-150 with quarter inch torque wrench
Johnny *hand tighten* you John
@@supermotos he's obviously talking about with a normal ratchet not literally just your hand
Johnny no he said with his hand.
@Primedragoon that's not really hand-tied is it when you're using two arms and a giant pipe... Rob literally explained that the guy must not have used any sort of torque wrench like the one he showed
Sad story, I know the owner at my local discount tire store and though his techs are very good and I have taken Z06's there with no problems but I own a 2109 GT2 RS (mine has the $18K magnesium wheel option unlike the car in this video) and I Only take it to high end independent Porsche motorsports mechanics or my Porsche dealer for tire changes.
Conical center locking lugs are better than multiple lug nuts. You lose redundancy but they distribute load more evenly to the face of the rotor. Look at any helicopter rotor, most mast nuts are a single nut and not a bolt array.
Centre lock wheel nuts are great for speedy wheel removals whether you want them or not.
The claim is that It keeps the rotating mass in the center on the wheels. And no, it’s not faster to remove/install a center lock. And you’re not suppose to impact them.
Holy sh**!!! Would never say that this kind of damage could be THAT expensive!
hahaha never ever could you handtighten to 45 ft lbs
45 ftlbs of torque is actually the spec for of all things a GEO METRO and that is just barely a click on the torque wrench.
Holy crap- my uncle just bought a 2012 turbo with these one nut wheels. I’m sharing this video immediately cause he asked me if they were headaches to deal with. I never thought this could be that expensive
Eric DeJesus if your uncle also has the carbon ceramic brakes then I would imagine it could be nearly this expensive. But if he has steel brakes probably not gonna be nearly this expensive.
He might get a terrible surprise. Porsche and Mercedes composite ceramic rotors are absurdly expensive. The head tech at the shop I take my Cayenne Turbo to said they have had MANY people immediately list their cars for sale when they find out a brake job is $8000-$12,000 bucks.
It's only expensive if you do it wrong. Get it to a reputable shop that knows centerlocks and it really isnt an issue. Or do it yourself. It's actually really easy.
That’s why you bring your New $300,000 car to the dealership for EVERYTHING!
You mean you don't take it to Big-O tires when you need new shoes?
(seriously though, so many of these car channels feature disasters wrought by the owner trying to save a buck, like having the lowest bidder ship their $500K car across the country).
I have an exotic. While I don’t use the dealer for every job, I’ll often ask who they’ll recommend for smaller things. They’re always happy to move a job on that they either don’t do or isn’t a major service item.
@@MikeyCh09 It's not about using the dealer vs. an independent shop. It's about using a shop that has some familiarity and expertise with a $300,000 car vs. taking it to Pep Boys.
I mean, what kind of shop even attempts to work on a car like this without the proper knowledge and training? It's not like doing 5,000 Toyota Corollas is going to prepare you to work on a super car.
I'd argue this is just about him being lazy and not bothering to check something very important yet fast and easy to check.
FYI. The the lock in the center of the wheel bolt is there to prevent the wheel bolt from backing off when installed correctly. The wheel can be fully Torqued to 445 lb/ft and if stil not be in safety. That lock has to be in a fully out position to actually be considered locked. Kind of hard to explain but I’ve seen plenty of wheels torqued by none Porsche techs but not in the actual locked position. Also that safety lock is not what prevents the wheel from spinning against the hub . The hub has 5 studs sticking out that locks into the wheels . Rob explained it incorrectly.
This is why you follow the manufacturer service manual. Please tell me they didnt take it to a chain tire store. Those places could give 2 shits about your car.
As someone who works at a dealership, dealerships want your car in and out as fast as possible to keep mechanic bays open. They won’t take the time to individually inspect parts and only charge you for what ACTUALLY needs replacing. If one thing goes, the whole system goes. If you have the money, sure go for it. The mechanic who does the work will go home with a husky commission and feed himself well for awhile. If you’re not willing to get bent by a dealership, inspect the parts yourself and only replace what is required.
I have the joy of working with Porsche centerlocks on an almost daily basis. The missing piece you talk about is actually the safety lock to prevent the nut from rotating/losing torque, when not missing many people dont make sure it's engaged properly and end up stripping the spline on it and nut. I have a pile of centerlock parts that are damaged or beyond Porsches recommended track life.
Always best to follow manufacturers guide lines.
Can’t do 25lbs with ur hands.. it’s the torque part .. ur don’t have leverage
Yeah he can. He can't do 25 ft-lbs with his hands. THAT's the torque part. If you're gonna be a smart arse, get your units of measurement right at least!
AnonyPersona do you work on cars or are you a keyboard warrior? Cause 45ft-lbs of torque is a lottttttt
A hand can’t do it..
@@noahmich21 Dude, READ what you wrote and what I was responding to. You said "Can’t do 25lbs with ur hands". Anyone can do 25 lbs with their hands. 25 lbs is unit of force, NOT torque. If you wrote 25 ft-lbs then that would be different and I would have agreed. Are you stupid, or... are you stupid? I told you that in my response. Torque is NOT just lbs. It's force over distance. "Lbs" alone that's force buddy. Totally different. Seriously, go up to ANY engineer and say "so, how hard is it to apply 25 lbs of torque?" and any competent one will laugh at you. They'll ask you "you mean 25 ft-lbs?", heck it could be anything even 25 in-lbs. WTF do you mean?"
Saying "25 lbs" of torque is just as bad as saying "25 ft" of torque. Both are equally wrong and equally ridiculous. You need BOTH units: Force AND distance to describe torque. Torque does not exist without the other. If you leave one unit off, you're talking about a TOTALLY different thing. Don't blame your ignorance/stupidity for my reading comprehension. PS: in-lbs is also a VERY common unit of torque measurement... and 25 in-lbs is different than 25 ft-lbs... saying 25 lbs and thinking that's torque proves to me you have zero clue what you're talking about.
$100,000 come on! That's a third of the price of that car! Crazy
I love the color. I saw and sat in a Porsche 911 GT2 RS when I bought my Porche Cayenne Turbo at the dealership. It is an amazing Porsche! I just need to make more money to buy it.
Today Mr Spaghetti told us than someone put the wrong meat balls in his spaghetti plate.
I can't do 5 pounds of torque with my hands. You so strong!!
Steve Lehto's Yutube channel is going through a 4-part series about an old case that started with a tire and wheel shop screwing up someone's car, then refusing to make it right. The tire shop lost the case but refused to pay, so Lehto got a judgement, the sheriffs waltzed over and grabbed tire shop property to the value of the judgement against the guy, sold them at auction, and Lehto and his client were paid. Now, well over 6 years later, the tire shop is suing Lehto, deputies, the judge, and the neighborhood cat for anything and everything, but none of it is legal, mostly because the statute of limitations has run out. Talk about a twisted tale. Heck even I got screwed by a name brand shopv- I took my car (with a brand new battery) in to have a bearing replaced, but could not pick it up until payday on Friday. When I got there, it would barely turn over, so I opened the hood and my brand new Wards 5-year top line battery was gone, replaced by a motorcycle battery. Grrr. They refused to make it right. The even stole the battery receipt from the glove compartment. It was a Midas Muffler shop.
This GT2 RS also does not have the magnesium wheels, the mag wheels are approx. $25K when purchased after the fact so that would have put the estimate way over $100K (a guy who owns a 2019 GR GT2 RS with WP and magnesium wheels)
Found out your channel around 9pm. Currently it’s 3am at night in the uk... love the channel keep up the great work
I'm not sure I've ever taken even my "lowly" NSX to a tire shop, or even a shop I trust just to do tires. 100% of the time I just put it in the air at my house, and take the wheels/tires somewhere. Typically they get worked quicker since there's no car taking up a bay, and I get to use my own torque wrench to re-install them on the car. Even then, I had an alignment shop remove a wheel to fix a tie rod they messed up, and didn't torque the wheel down when they reinstalled it. Fortunately I noticed the wobble as I was passing another shop, who graciously let me borrow a jack and torque wrench in their parking lot to check things and tighten the wheel. Moral of the story: It's hard to find good help. Hope your friend gets some satisfaction out of his legal action.
Good thing the driver wasn't on the track when that happened because taking a turn at high speed would easily put you into the wall.
I am more amazed you found an independent tire shop that would touch centerlocks. Whether it’s an old Jag with a lead hammer, or a H1 with CTIS, most smart independents know it’s not worth the risk. Im guessing what happened here was the wheel was not seated on the dowel pins. Porsche’s system won’t let the wheel come off even if it’s under torqued as long as it’s seated properly and the retainer engages. Don’t let 19yr olds work on cars like that. Maybe start by bringing them a Carrera and see if they can put the center cap on correctly before you trust them.
Superman Rob with the 45 Ft/lb hands blowing up shops
I work at a porche dealer u actually cant use a Impact gun on the center lock we have this big ass torque wrench u need 2 people to get the wheels off we use the torque wrench to take the wheel off and then to tighten it back up
Sorry rob but you couldnt even torque that nut to 10lbs with ur hands lol
For all those saying the car shouldn't be taken to a tire shop, it entirely depends on the tire shop. I know of several racers that use a particular shop because they mount and balance tires for high speed race conditions with the proper valve stems and attention to detail. I would rather use that shop than any of the dealerships I have dealt with. Not because a dealer can't do it but because you know exactly what you are going to get with that shop.
Some shops are the opposite.
The owner of this Porsche obviously did not know the difference.
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It's hard for me to have sympathy for the owner. You spend that kind of money on a car and cheap out on going to a hole-in-the-wall tire place for tires. You get what you pay for. The owner shouldn't have cheaped out and just went to the dealership for the tire replacement to begin with. It would have saved him a ton of money.
The dealer recommended just replacing every single thing that MIGHT have been damaged? They said there's no way to know, so better to replace them?
Well, there IS a way to know. You INSPECT all those things for damage.
"You never know...this part could be damaged, but it might not be, lets replace it just in case," is bull crap.
The torque specs on a 6.6 Duramax Diesel engine drain plug is 62ft/lbs of torque! Also early Geo Metros called for 45 ft/lbs torque on the lug nuts!
I’ve worked on tire shops and in one particular shop, the most torque a stick had was 300. I have not seen any shop torque stick get higher then that in the shops I’ve been at since a lot of times we don’t need to torque things that much. Don’t go to just any tire shop if you really gotta tighten to above that. Safety is #1 priority at least for me.
your videos scare the shit out of me, i am a "car guy" to my friends because I know a lot more than they do but the shit i learn from your videos and the dollar amounts, make my jaw slam the desk
Remember the one lug C2 Corvettes, they recommended that you hit the spiner every 100 miles with a rubber mallet.
For those of you that aren’t aware you should be checking your wheels yourself, same as checking tyre pressures, oil, coolant, screen wash levels - that’s what people used to do before they became too important and ignorant.
This is why I always take the wheels off and then take them to a shop. At least on my nice cars. I hate people touching my cars, I always find damage or something wrong.
After you got done touching those "dirty parts". You had your hands like you didn't know what to do with them 😂😂
When you open a stuck jar of pickles ... that's close to 45 ft/lbs. So yes Rob, you can do 45 ft/lb
Mechanics are skilled at estimating the torque they apply when using THEIR tools. But I would guess that every experienced mechanic insists on using careful tools if the torque spec is above 100 ft/lbs
What happens when you take your $250k car to a local mom n pop discount tire store. Most tire shops will just tell you “yes we can do it”, thinking its just another tire change. Then when they cause wheel dmg, they’ll say it was there from before.
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Thats crazy how one tire change trip can take a $350,000 car for another $80,000 ride!
Pay to play with the big boy toys. At least that's what Rober Kraft told me.
The five lug wheels on my car call for 90 ft/lbs. Whatever wheel shop did this was grossly negligent in my book and should 100% be on the hook for any damage.
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One lug also creates a more even torque across the flat surface of the rotors and hub. To help imagine I can tell you that if you don’t torque a five lug all at different torques then you can warp the rotors.
Glenn, you took the exact words out of my mouth, so much so I am going to reiterate what you said! .......And that is why you don't take a $300,000+ new car to a "tire shop."
You take it to the dealership.
What moron owns a GT2RS and then takes it to a "tire shop" to have new tires installed?
For real that's on the owner
The tire shop probably didn't have any idea this car was worth this much. Any reputable shop wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.
Most wheel offs ran the shop i used to work for about 60-80k in settlement fees. This is a big company btw so they have no issue paying for the mistakes that do eventually happen, but I could see why a smaller shop doesn't want to pay.
Am I the only one really focussing on that SVR in the back? Probably. But I love that car, awesome to see it in the back
Your on the side of the road in your GT2 with a flat tire. Someone pulls over to help and says “hey man you need a hand?” You say “Yeah!, do you got a twelve foot breaker bar on you?”
Lol I just thought of that. Does the spare have a collapsible breaker bar?
"Current lap record holder at the numbergring"
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Winner!
I know everyone has already said this, but...lol! 45ftlbs is not hand tight. 30ftlbs is like a "good effort" on a typical 3/8" ratchet. 45ftlbs is enough to break a cheap 1/4" ratchet.
Haha! Good luck with using just your hand to get 45 ft. lbs.!!! With a foot long ratchet on that nut it would need 45 lbs of force. No way to do it by hand. Hand will do 1 or 2 ft lbs. I think someone zipped em down with an impact and forgot to go back and torque them or thought the impact would make it tight enough. Probably had adapters on the impact too. 1/2 in. impact with an adapter or two would tighten to 45 imho. Edit: or they didnt want to use air on such an expensive car and just never torqued them after using whatever to snug them.
Obviously Rob doesn't do any of his own maintenance, as any Journeyman mechanic whom just a week ago found out what a screw driver is used for, knows you ain't getting remotely close to 45lbs of torque with your hand! Still love the channel! ;)
Porsche lug bolts on the cayenne and carrera I did were 130 lb. ft. Most normal cars are 90 ft lbs. even then 45 is more than hand tight, you might be able to do 5 maybe 10 ft lb with your hand if you’re really strong
That shop will be ruined by the lawsuit anyway. No need to call them out.
Rob:
Porsche shop: Hey it's Rob with his GT2 RS, get the hobo we just hired to change tires.
Yep.That is probable most likely what happened.
It's not Robs car.
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Not to be that guy, but the Aventador SVJ is the current Production car track record holder for the Nordschleife.
A lot of the tire shops techs are inexperienced youngsters. It is insane for the owner to even consider taking a supercar there
This week rob spaghetti tells us to hand torque our Ragù containers to 45 foot pounds
come back 1 year later and spaghetti jokes still running round! XD
Nothing wrong with center locks when you take them to the people that are trained and equipped to service them properly i.e. your Porsche dealership. I am currently repairing a 2017 991.2 Turbo S cabriolet for the exact same thing. If you're looking to save money on maintenance and repairs, a Porsche is not the car for you.
Suppose to be torqued to 450ftlbs and when tightening and loosening. The car also has to be off the ground when doing both. The locking spline inside needs to be flush with the outside of the nut. That’s very unfortunate but likely all to save a couple bucks.
5:50 Rob, if you were to turn it by hand, you would need to exert like 540 lbs of force(1 inch away from center) through your fingers. 45 ft*lbs is 45 lbs of force, 1 foot away.
Great info Rob. I don’t have a car like that, but I know someone who does and I bet you he never thought that can happen to that car. Thanks.
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This kids is why if you own an exotic you have to take it to either a specialist shop or the dealer. Nothing else, not bob who knows all about cars at your local tyre shop. Also, do Porsche still use "sided" centre caps like on the CGT? They are different colours for the different sides - I wonder if they put the wrong ones on the wrong side?
SVJ beat the track record
Jay yes but the GTRS set the new record with modified production car look it up on Chris Harris drives the same car that set the new record , and it beat the time that the p1 and 918and la Ferrari did by 2 seconds that Chris Harris did on the holy trinity of the 3 hyper cars check it out pretty awesome!
That is crazy.. I have learned my lesson years ago when I told the guy the a big tire chain "NOT " to use an air gun on the lugnuts on my show car. He broke 3 studs then the mgr had the mentality to ask if I carried 3 studs in my trunk....... I now bring my wheels and tires t the local tire guy and I install on my own car. Not using an air gun and then torquing them down to 100lbs. as per the manufacturer.
Ron Gosciniak truth. That’s one reason I do all my own motorcycle tire changes, and prefer to take my wheels in to have mounted when possible. I hate having them drive my vehicle into their shop to do tire/ wheel stuff even on my 1500 Silverado. And I always double check the torque when I get home.
Had a NTB break 2 studs on my Datsun and when "none were available" I drive same car to part store and came back. Some people just dont care about workmanship.
That dealership made like a bandit. I bet the shop insurance denied the claim because they feel unnecessary repairs were made.
Funny timing of this video. Check out the latest Lehto's law. Michigan just ruled that repair shops are not liable for mistakes like this. Insane.
I've worked in a tire shop....45ftlbs of torque is almost half that of a Honda Civic (80ftlbs). Whoever worked on it failed....BIGTIME. Like $100,000 worth of dumb. Owner went cheap and paid price.
Yeah CL look nice, but be carefull if you have tires replaced by other companies. I had a one disc shattered (they covered it, and yes it was ~$8k to fix). I only found one place that could replace tires, due to owner had an GT3RS so they had the gear to do the replacement ... not risking it any more ... due to Porsche actually have reasonable cost to replace tires ...
$24 for a socket head cap screw? I found an equivalent grade 12.9 on Mcmaster for $2.24. There is so much fluff in that quote, plenty of parts that are likely fine. The dealer clearly knows the owners is not mechanically inclined.