The State Of The Pauper Metagame In 2024 - No Bans & Still Broken!? | MTG Meta Discussion React

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  • @Pintyhet
    @Pintyhet 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    The biggest take away is that Gavin really does have his ear to the ground about the format and genuinely cares. He wants people to play and have fun. He wants a healthy format.

  • @atldru15
    @atldru15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Your pronunciation of Writhing Chrysalis is brutal

  • @jacobgherardi3793
    @jacobgherardi3793 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Idk, if deadly dispute left it would create a lot of diversity as people move to the other cards that do the same thing, which I think would be cool to see people use more specific cards in each deck

  • @AncientHydraGaming
    @AncientHydraGaming วันที่ผ่านมา

    Squadron Hawk is the face card of Caw Gates, the Azorius (or more recently on occasion Jeskai) Control deck.

  • @BrodyTwice
    @BrodyTwice 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Love these videos bro!!

  • @sinistre4998
    @sinistre4998 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Broodscale glee itself IS NOT problematic. The problem is the Chrysalis, as many people are saying, the midrange plan for the deck is simply too good. Even just chrysalis otself with a glee on it can win games on its own.
    We need new decks in the format, I don't think it's right to ban new decks just because they are very popular. Ban Chrysalis

  • @runepedro
    @runepedro 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Why does it look like pauper players want the format to forcefully rotate with bans?

    • @sinistre4998
      @sinistre4998 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@runepedro right? Seems like every time a new deck appears, people get mad that it's a strong and functional one. The format power-creeps like all the others, so I think it's a bit of an overreaction to hard-ban broodscale combo, ban the cards around it instead: chrysalis and dispute.

    • @runepedro
      @runepedro วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sinistre4998 Chrysallis is basically the tarmogoyf of the format: it's really good, it dodges removal, but it's healthy
      dispute is a weird one indeed, but that would kill a bunch of decks (and diversity with that). Gardens would die for others' sins

    • @runepedro
      @runepedro วันที่ผ่านมา

      Also I think the format is perfectly fine. Only thing I could see being touched is bushwalker because it makes the whole format a turn faster

    • @MetalCoreHog131
      @MetalCoreHog131 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@runepedro Pauper spawned from MTGO, most of the player base tries to go infinite with leagues where they’re gonna see the same 3 decks over and over again. That causes them to feel like the format has gotten stale after only a few months or so compared to someone who only plays pauper in paper and probably plays against a much greater variety of decks

  • @Keck282
    @Keck282 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Going to test out a mono-black sac deck tonight at my LGS. It's going to be good. If I want it to be a turn 1 or 2 combo win, I'd have to drop $90 on a playset of the black rituals (Dark Ritual, Cabal Ritual, Cull The Weak). Trying to have something to be a counter to Rakdos Madness or mono-red burn

  • @MetalCoreHog131
    @MetalCoreHog131 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    It doesn't sound like Gavin is actually knowledgeable about the state of Pauper. He talks about Chrysalis as if it only exists in the Gruul Ramp shell, card is so busted Glee, Gardens, and even some versions of Terror and Affinity splash for it. I'm so sick of it lol

    • @ThatMillGuyShaf
      @ThatMillGuyShaf  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@MetalCoreHog131 wait terror splashes for it? Send me that list, it sounds diabolical

    • @MetalCoreHog131
      @MetalCoreHog131 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@ThatMillGuyShaf TeasdaleMTG uploaded a league with Temur Terror a week or so ago. It might be galeogiao's list. It's basically U/R Terror (Skred) with 4 Chrysalsis, 4 Rumble, 2 Hunter, and some people throw a Pulse of Murasa in there. Plus, you get Weather the Storm for the board. Idk if it's better than regular Skred but it just goes to show any deck with enough green or red sources will considering splashing the other for the eggplant haha

  • @pierredupont1096
    @pierredupont1096 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bridges, Glee and Dispute maybe.
    Red is fine, there will be cards at common that make it better or worse over time.

  • @lucassevero3937
    @lucassevero3937 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Basking brood scale should go, glee combo is the most frustrating experience in pauper there is

  • @benlittle5543
    @benlittle5543 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you. For not leaving it

  • @The_Visual
    @The_Visual 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I would love a pauper rcq.

  • @albertorozco3652
    @albertorozco3652 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Been waiting for this video. 🎉🎉

  • @potestasnecis
    @potestasnecis 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Oh look a Pauper video. I like!

  • @ralphieboy97
    @ralphieboy97 วันที่ผ่านมา

    they couldn't let the Pio Masters be legal cuz of the mdfc lands imo. Decks would probably be too consistent if I had to guess.

  • @benlittle5543
    @benlittle5543 วันที่ผ่านมา

    At 8:30 my mind things banning artifact lands would hurt burn more than I first thought

    • @benlittle5543
      @benlittle5543 วันที่ผ่านมา

      At 12:00 I hear and agree about format identity. The tapped lands should get the axe if any.
      Though I think deadly dispute and the lesser versions are the real problem

    • @benlittle5543
      @benlittle5543 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thraben charm has been freaking goooood for mono white too

  • @superluckyhappylife2358
    @superluckyhappylife2358 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wish they semi restricted the writhing chrysalis to 2 copy or something. Not ban just make them less scary

  • @doRevMav
    @doRevMav วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would love to play pauper but I have no community around to play in paper :(

  • @OliverTzingounis
    @OliverTzingounis 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    love the video's :)

  • @joaomarcoscassiano5330
    @joaomarcoscassiano5330 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think PFP made the worst decision for pauper right now. Chrysalis is a huge problem and it should’ve been banned. When ATG was banned one of the main arguments was that if you didn’t have the right answer at the right time, the enchantment would make the gaming experience miserable. ATG was WAY EASIER to interact with than chrysalis and now all of a sudden the gaming experience was not taken into consideration just the win rate percentage. Huge mistake in my honest opinion.

    • @TinyLokiGaming
      @TinyLokiGaming วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think a WC ban would probably be fine, it would only make the Glee combo decks more specifically a combo deck, and Gruul Midrange would fade back into Ponza

    • @joaomarcoscassiano5330
      @joaomarcoscassiano5330 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TinyLokiGamingand the decks that are splashing to use would stop doing it.

  • @ZiskaR-m6o
    @ZiskaR-m6o 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That is an issue with the online mtgo and even arena

  • @academyruins1278
    @academyruins1278 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the fact that the mh2 artifact lands come in tapped is balanced, you cant afford to play a tapped land t1 or t2 and expect to live vs red.. meta game be meta game yo

    • @academyruins1278
      @academyruins1278 วันที่ผ่านมา

      also my millguy puts the EmPhAsis on the wrong SylAble somtimes lol

  • @mateuszpk5511
    @mateuszpk5511 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Interesting. I suppose it's stable, but getting rid of the few cards highlighted, would enable headroom for MANY cards to come in. Few cards, especially deadly dispute, are seen way too often! Personally. I think pauper is all about classic cards. So I think clockwok percussionist and goblin tomb raider should go!

    • @TinyLokiGaming
      @TinyLokiGaming 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Eternal formats exist to highlight old cards and new alike. Just banning every new red drop is ridiculous

    • @joaomarcoscassiano5330
      @joaomarcoscassiano5330 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TinyLokiGamingI don’t think banning new red drops is the way to slow down Mono Red. However, imo the best way to do this is banning card advantage, since is the weak spot of the decks.

  • @imGrisky
    @imGrisky 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Please dont ban dispute. It makes cyclestorm so much worse.

    • @ThatMillGuyShaf
      @ThatMillGuyShaf  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@imGrisky just that one version of cycle storm

  • @samuelebenenti5279
    @samuelebenenti5279 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The PFP is just a group of clown that not play the format and without any idea of what Pauper meta is right now.