"... and weary travelers who approach that crossing gate are never seen again." I was just thinking about that same kind of joke - like is a campfire ghost story with an spooky ending.
I think these videos that railroad fans take they are good in every way possible. Thanks for sharing your video and it was very good to see Northfolk Southern line....
Where I use to live in Lomira Wi if you went one town over it wasn't uncommon to see 2 trains at once.. Loved seeing that this video reminds me of that. Loved it thanks for posting
As bad or worse in Elkhart, Indiana. 3 track heading south and east out of downtown feed the NS Elkhart yard. Traffic volume is HEAVY. Trains sit and block crossings for miles and miles at times. Two may be heading in, one heading out followed by more in a steady procession.
Well it's the fault of car/ truck manufacturers, big oil, the government and insurance companies for making most Americans entitled to their vehicles and have a hissy fit about trains.
The driver didn't hang around for very long. Arrives 6:21, last seen at 6:45, gone by 7:03. Waits for 24 seconds, then leaves sometime during an 18 second time span.
+Draygone RPGMmag It's all about control. In emergency braking, the engineer is just dumping the air pressure out of the system as fast as it can go, applying the brakes as quickly as possible. In normal operation, the engineer would know how much of a pressure reduction was needed in the brake line and apply only what was needed to maintain control of the train on the grade. In this case, they have the added benefit of an assist from dynamic braking (in simple terms, turning the traction motors into generators and slowing the train via electrical resistance), plus having a set of helper engines on the rear using their own dynamic brakes and providing extra control over applying or releasing the air brakes.
I experienced something similar once, stack train at a crawl, stopped with 5 cars exactly (one articulated line of 40' thralls) still not across the road, it wasn't stopped for long, a few seconds after it stopped, BANG, coupling slack and it regained momentum, not much of it though, it was still going slower than 10 MPH, even after clearing the crossing. Traffic was backed up for maybe a half mile, not adding the way the nearby intersection was almost gridlock, the cars crossing the tracks after it passed was ENDLESS. I wonder how the story went for the next dozen of crossings down the way it was going XD
I also think the boxcar @ 1:12 is trying to kill itself, its probably more than 20 years old at this point, which is quite old for a railcar... look at the rust on it!
I used to like trains to but the railroad near where I live in town has a lot of trains with several cars but it travels real slow, which is good, but it has so many cars that it backs up traffic for as far as one can see.
In most places now, the railroad can be fined for blocking a crossing excessively. West of this spot, I think Carneys Crossing Road is the only crossing between here and Pittsburgh. It was amazing foresight on the part of the Pennsylvania Railroad to see the benefit of eliminating the grade crossings so early on.
***** From east to west- Carneys, like you mentioned, then New Florence (track 3 only- 1 and 2 are on the opposite side of the river), Robinson (again track 3 only), then there are actually four in Derry twp, three east of town and one west, then until about 10 years ago there was one at Wegley, and then one in East Pittsburgh. Then your in the city. You are correct though, that is truly amazing that a railroad planned over 100 years ago has so few crossings.
So how did you get back to Cresson anyways, if you can remember? I'm not sure how you would've been able to leave the crossing with only Porta Road being open. Unless the manifest did eventually move and you were able to get onto South 10th Street.
I followed the road behind the camera up and over the hill towards Altoona, then wound through town and found my way out to Route 22. I think this would've been back in the time when I was traveling with a TomTom GPS unit, so there were probably a few 'Recalculating...' moments during the drive.
He appeared to have quite a few empty cars in the train, so that would have factored into the lack of a helper for extra braking effort coming down the mountain.
I'm sure it's happened on a few occasions; I can't imagine what the traffic must have been like back in the Pennsy days when this would have been four tracks with a higher train frequency.
I walked across that crossing many many times. my best friend lived down the road on the right and we'd hunt rabbits in the woods on the left and around the brick yard
I would love to live there. Where I live, Florida, Pinellas county we have very few trains. Unfortunately that will never change because the powers to be are trying to fill up every inch of land with people.
"Driver's Nightmare"? Not I. I try to time it so I'm first at the crossing gate to watch. I miss all the railroad employee "graffiti" such as "Bozo Texino" and "Charlie Brown".
+allan egleston Still cameras? I was the only person there watching trains that afternoon, and I wasn't shooting stills while the video camera was rolling. The grinding and groaning sounds in the background are coming from the brakeshoes on the trains.
The grade up the eastern slope of the Alleghenies begins a couple of miles east, so trains passing this spot are either working hard uphill or braking to maintain speed coming down. Additionally, on this day there had been a medical emergency near Horseshoe Curve (ATV accident), and all rail traffic had been halted while the responders worked the scene. Once the scene was cleared the dispatcher had a bit of a traffic jam to clear, and the eastbounds were coming down the mountain so close together that frequently one train would have to slow down or stop and wait while the one ahead of it entered the yard and the dispatcher cleared a path for the next one.
+FlyToChina0071 The trains were fine; the various noises were as a result of the challenge faced when braking a heavy train going downhill. The problem was trains backing up at the interlocking in town (CP-Altoona) while waiting to get into the yard, hence the manifest coming to a stop.
By the way Adam breaking a train means it's broken in two parts, braking a train is bringing her down the grade under control. Jim retired B&A locomotive mountain engineer. :-)
Normally I would agree with you, but Porta Road isn't all that busy and there are other points to cross close by. Out of shot to the right, the road runs parallel to the tracks and over a hill to provide a route to a more heavily-trafficked road that crosses the tracks via an underpass.
The crossing is on Porta Road. The road on the opposite side of the crossing from my vantage point is South 10th Street. There is a road going up the hill behind where I'm standing, but for some reason Google Maps still doesn't acknowledge its existence.
What's more fun is seeing the caboose of the southbound train and the headlights of the NORTHBOUND train!
Legend has it that train is still blocking that crossing.
"... and weary travelers who approach that crossing gate are never seen again."
I was just thinking about that same kind of joke - like is a campfire ghost story with an spooky ending.
Very awesome in HD! Also that gives a whole new meaning to riding the brakes!
I think these videos that railroad fans take they are good in every way possible. Thanks for sharing your video and it was very good to see Northfolk Southern line....
Where I use to live in Lomira Wi if you went one town over it wasn't uncommon to see 2 trains at once.. Loved seeing that this video reminds me of that. Loved it thanks for posting
Very nice I used to live by csx tracks in Philadelphia hearing trains day and night I liked it there keep it up
Ah the Brickyard one of my favorite spots to go. Nice catch thanks for sharing makes me wanna come down more now ... :(
I can just imagine the look on the driver's face LOL
As bad or worse in Elkhart, Indiana. 3 track heading south and east out of downtown feed the NS Elkhart yard. Traffic volume is HEAVY. Trains sit and block crossings for miles and miles at times. Two may be heading in, one heading out followed by more in a steady procession.
You got that right, if only everyone in this society would love trains, they'd pretty much all say what we say it's our dream. Nice catches Dave
Well it's the fault of car/ truck manufacturers, big oil, the government and insurance companies for making most Americans entitled to their vehicles and have a hissy fit about trains.
What a hoot ... railfan's dream, driver's nightmare ... indeed ... thanks for sharing.
I wish GE would go back to round cab roofs so I could tell them from EMDs.
The driver didn't hang around for very long. Arrives 6:21, last seen at 6:45, gone by 7:03.
Waits for 24 seconds, then leaves sometime during an 18 second time span.
It makes me wonder how differently regular breaks work, that the train is able to slow down this slowly compared to emergency breaks.
+Draygone RPGMmag It's all about control. In emergency braking, the engineer is just dumping the air pressure out of the system as fast as it can go, applying the brakes as quickly as possible. In normal operation, the engineer would know how much of a pressure reduction was needed in the brake line and apply only what was needed to maintain control of the train on the grade. In this case, they have the added benefit of an assist from dynamic braking (in simple terms, turning the traction motors into generators and slowing the train via electrical resistance), plus having a set of helper engines on the rear using their own dynamic brakes and providing extra control over applying or releasing the air brakes.
that was awesome first time for me to see video. nice catch.
I have ES44 in o scale by mth and the road number is 8946. Nice to see the real thing. Great video 😊
I experienced something similar once, stack train at a crawl, stopped with 5 cars exactly (one articulated line of 40' thralls) still not across the road, it wasn't stopped for long, a few seconds after it stopped, BANG, coupling slack and it regained momentum, not much of it though, it was still going slower than 10 MPH, even after clearing the crossing. Traffic was backed up for maybe a half mile, not adding the way the nearby intersection was almost gridlock, the cars crossing the tracks after it passed was ENDLESS.
I wonder how the story went for the next dozen of crossings down the way it was going XD
I also think the boxcar @ 1:12 is trying to kill itself, its probably more than 20 years old at this point, which is quite old for a railcar... look at the rust on it!
And a clear signal for another train as well
I used to like trains to but the railroad near where I live in town has a lot of trains with several cars but it travels real slow, which is good, but it has so many cars that it backs up traffic for as far as one can see.
In most places now, the railroad can be fined for blocking a crossing excessively. West of this spot, I think Carneys Crossing Road is the only crossing between here and Pittsburgh. It was amazing foresight on the part of the Pennsylvania Railroad to see the benefit of eliminating the grade crossings so early on.
***** "...Carneys Crossing Road is the only crossing between here and Pittsburgh" ...not even close
evets sdoow That's true, I forgot about Derry at the very least.
***** From east to west- Carneys, like you mentioned, then New Florence (track 3 only- 1 and 2 are on the opposite side of the river), Robinson (again track 3 only), then there are actually four in Derry twp, three east of town and one west, then until about 10 years ago there was one at Wegley, and then one in East Pittsburgh. Then your in the city. You are correct though, that is truly amazing that a railroad planned over 100 years ago has so few crossings.
Take the time to call you family on the phone and tell them how much you love them, while you wait for the train to pass... Boom problem solved.
Thanks and if anyone is familiar with the krewstown Bloomfield area up there that's where I was keep it up this was cool
Great catch here. If I were in that suv, as soon as I heard the final lurch of the cars, throw it in park and enjoy the view.
That was me as a kid. My parents would stop so we could enjoy the show.
Oh my God sane human beings
Nightmare ??? If waiting on a train is a nightmare then you are wound way too tight.
And that's why I'm happy to fall on the 'railfan' side of the title.
Perhaps if I had my pregnant wife or on my way to hospital witha rattlesnake still stuck to my kid's leg but otherwise we think it would be so cool.
So how did you get back to Cresson anyways, if you can remember? I'm not sure how you would've been able to leave the crossing with only Porta Road being open. Unless the manifest did eventually move and you were able to get onto South 10th Street.
I followed the road behind the camera up and over the hill towards Altoona, then wound through town and found my way out to Route 22. I think this would've been back in the time when I was traveling with a TomTom GPS unit, so there were probably a few 'Recalculating...' moments during the drive.
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wow that beast is really struggling and screeching for a SLOW stop
That's freight train for ya
Been a long time since I've seen a freight train the door open and not shut ...good video
Hobo Uber👍
I love it!
I may be wrong but the first train to me looked to be too long and too heavy for just two locos to be pulling it.
He appeared to have quite a few empty cars in the train, so that would have factored into the lack of a helper for extra braking effort coming down the mountain.
Imagine being the passenger train behind it and the freight no longer has to move over.
I'm sure it's happened on a few occasions; I can't imagine what the traffic must have been like back in the Pennsy days when this would have been four tracks with a higher train frequency.
I walked across that crossing many many times. my best friend lived down the road on the right and we'd hunt rabbits in the woods on the left and around the brick yard
If that was back in the days when there were 4 tracks, I bet it was difficult to cross.
I would love to live there. Where I live, Florida, Pinellas county we have very few trains. Unfortunately that will never change because the powers to be are trying to fill up every inch of land with people.
I think they need to step up their maintenance schedule .
Re rusty boxcars 4th + 13th cars, which were there code signs? / owners??
From what I can tell they were CUOH like the red boxcars around them, which would be an Ohio Central reporting mark.
Thanks tons!
@@FastFlyingVirginian
engine off....enjoy the show. :-)
Nightmare? That's when you shut the car/truck off and stretch out on the hood. Feels great on the back too.
I have never heard that rattling before.
What ever happened to Hoboes?
They still exist, albeit probably far less romanticized than they were in the past.
about how many trains go through this particular crossing?
40+ a day, I think.
Well, that was a fascinating none event. I must watch out for more and avoid them. 😳
So what exactly happened?
I don't get it, what happened?
Dont mean to be rude, a novice to this whole Train watching!
The drivers had been waiting a long time for one train to clear the crossing, only to have a second train follow the first and keep the gates down.
@@FastFlyingVirginian ah, thanks!
Karmic payback for Pennsylvania drivers screwing up NJ roads doing 5 under the speed limit in the left lane...
Does anyone know why it stopped there?
If I recall correctly, the yard was a bit snarled up that day so it had to wait its turn to get in.
Time to turn around and find something to do til then
"Driver's Nightmare"? Not I. I try to time it so I'm first at the crossing gate to watch. I miss all the railroad employee "graffiti" such as "Bozo Texino" and "Charlie Brown".
It sounds like a few of the cars had dry bearings that needed replacing.
couldnt get passed the still cameras constantly grinding during the shot
+allan egleston Still cameras? I was the only person there watching trains that afternoon, and I wasn't shooting stills while the video camera was rolling. The grinding and groaning sounds in the background are coming from the brakeshoes on the trains.
+allan egleston If your camera is making that noise when still shooting, you might want to have it checked out lol
This picture is to dark couldn't see the railroad cars
I bet you're great at parties
why were the brakes on ?
The grade up the eastern slope of the Alleghenies begins a couple of miles east, so trains passing this spot are either working hard uphill or braking to maintain speed coming down. Additionally, on this day there had been a medical emergency near Horseshoe Curve (ATV accident), and all rail traffic had been halted while the responders worked the scene. Once the scene was cleared the dispatcher had a bit of a traffic jam to clear, and the eastbounds were coming down the mountain so close together that frequently one train would have to slow down or stop and wait while the one ahead of it entered the yard and the dispatcher cleared a path for the next one.
What was the problem and how was it solved? I can see, the breaking are "hanging", but why - leaking / reduced air pressure or...?
Cheers Adam
+FlyToChina0071 The trains were fine; the various noises were as a result of the challenge faced when braking a heavy train going downhill. The problem was trains backing up at the interlocking in town (CP-Altoona) while waiting to get into the yard, hence the manifest coming to a stop.
+FastFlyingVirginian OK & Thanks :-)
Cheers Adam
By the way Adam breaking a train means it's broken in two parts, braking a train is bringing her down the grade under control.
Jim retired B&A locomotive mountain engineer.
:-)
This leads to poor pubic relations on the part of the railroads!
Normally I would agree with you, but Porta Road isn't all that busy and there are other points to cross close by. Out of shot to the right, the road runs parallel to the tracks and over a hill to provide a route to a more heavily-trafficked road that crosses the tracks via an underpass.
Many railroads don't really care.
What road is this?
The crossing is on Porta Road. The road on the opposite side of the crossing from my vantage point is South 10th Street. There is a road going up the hill behind where I'm standing, but for some reason Google Maps still doesn't acknowledge its existence.
This looks like the tipton area
Tipton is about 15 miles northeast of this location via I-99.
@@FastFlyingVirginian it's been a while since I was up that way
I thought this looks like fostaria crossings.
slow trains are the worst !
I disagree. Slow ones last longer
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