@Motivational.mindset69 I'm not wasting 12hrs of my life raising a giga bro that's just for it to eat alone call it what you want I'm not "surviving" by watching a bar go up over 7 days and taking shifts like it's a job
You're not wrong about anything you said! However as an Official PVE player, i cant speak for everyone, but I get gratification of accomplishment if i can tame, breed, and beat bosses the hardest way possible. I feel like it makes your base/dinosaurs feel so much more meaningful :)
Ya same I usually dont play hard mode on other games but something about playing boosted rates on ark feels like cheating and its not nearly as satisfying to tame, build, breed, etc. compared to official rates
Official PVE is my preference as well. It just requires some etiquette and patience with toxic players. But trading and grouping up with complete strangers for boss fights has been my favorite thing in ark.
I think this video is more about pvp. I also prefer official pve as you get the satisfaction of reaching end game instead of having the option to spawn in anything in single player/ boosters for unofficial
I quit official a long time ago. It was way too toxic and filled with people that play 24/7 all year. Better off just playing unofficial or single player. It's still sad to see people think official is the only way to play the game.
When ASE came out and server transfers were not implemented yet, playing on official was great. Everybody knew each other, it was a microcosmos of its own and although PvP was possible, all the tribes stuck together and only went against the (back then) rare griefers. This totally changed once servertransfers were added - the toxicity swept over The Island like a wave of phiomiapoop... since then I never played official again and spent thousands of hours happily on different private servers.
so glad to hear this from someone else, i played on 683 center back in the day and the community was amazing, then they added transfers and every big tribe that was keeping our server protected from griefs got raided, they had the upper hand before because they ran things, it was official but they owned it cuz nobody could raid. Ark was never the same after transfers
Server transfers were a massive mistake. They just favor the attacking parties, because their only stakes are the dinos that they send in, wheras the defenders stand to (and typically will) lose everything. Closed off communities sort of policed themselves and had an organically emerging diplomacy. It is often argued that server transfers were necessary to prevent tyrannical alphas, who ruled their servers with an iron fist. But instead server transfers only allowed the tyranny to spread.
@@MightyJabroniI agree, the server transfers have ruined any chance at building up on official. You can’t compete with mega-tribes, you just can’t. I really miss old Ark before transfers.
So I agree with most of what you stated. However, as another person who has other real life requirements that limit my play time, I enjoy the official PVE side of the game and here’s why 1. With it being official I have the rest of the official community to trade with. Whether it be stats, color regions, or boss fights, some of the good friends I have made have been from the trading aspect you have on official. 2. You did mention finding a “good unofficial server”. That to me is the biggest hurdle. Putting weeks or months into a server for personality issues that can reset you at 0, or the server not receiving enough funding from players causing the server to shut down is just something I have dealt with and don’t feel like dealing with again.
Alright, Let me clarify something as well. If Ark somehow finds a way to get rid of some of the toxic stuff like ini, spawn camping, and other crap.... I think Ark Official COULD make a massive comback.... Thoughts?!? (Also, this video is 11:11 on accident.... Thats kinda cool!!!! )
Hands down meshing is the worst issue with Ark pvp official. Insiding is the next worst issue, but there isn't a punishment incentive for that kind of behavior in Ark. If they could 100% fix meshing and everyone had to raid fairly. Would be so much better.
As a 31000 hour player official will not make a come back the coding is all the same and cheats will live forever right now you can reserve your spot for ark 2 aimbot
Also on top of that there’s meshing they system in play does not stop anything just the people who know how to do it haven’t released it yet and prob won’t same with duping you can still show right now and you could say oh the devs will catch you that’s also false I will not explain how it’s done just know they will not fix it
I totally agree with you. I have been playing ARK the first day ASE came out and when single player came out I left and never looked back. I still remember looking for an Official server and spawned in inside a metal box that I could not get out of. There was even a sign inside the box telling me, and anyone else who spawned in the box to get the F off their server. I never played on offical again.
I had that happen on PvE and I went scorched earth on that Tribe. Reported them and then blasted them in the chat. Got karma a while later when, due to their poor choices and getting Ark’d they needed help getting back on their feet. Reminded them of their spawn locking box and told them to pound sand.
I love unofficial PVE. It's more like a community. Most have certain settings turned up so the game is not such a grind and you can be having more fun, whether your into breeding, fighting or building. A good unofficial also have great admins as arguments, trolls, pillering etc still happen, but they can be dealt with quickly. It's fun doing stuff together, sometimes with total strangers from all around the world. Us older long termers helping newbies to the game so they enjoy ark instead of quitting and never playing again.
Just 3 days ago we got the locals to take down a 135 alpha Rex together. We all had Argys and we all attacked it together and defeated it. That 15 mins of fighting was so fun that we agreed to do brood mother together and megapithacus together in the future.
depends... if you are looking for a fun chill experience then yeah, stay away from offi. but if you want a challenge like no other then hop on offi. its no different from a competitive fps, theres the tryhard offi/ranked and the chill pve, singleplayer/casual. personally i play ark for that excitement, for the grueling pvp, the week long raids, the camaraderie, etc etc. i have made friends through ark pvp that im closer to than some of my irl friends saying one is bad and you should NEVER TOUCH IT N BLAA BLAA is just being simple minded. you prefer single player and a chill experience, and others prefer the grueling difficulty. ngl this video just seems like ragebait, the argument you are making is essentially "board games are better then console games"... PvP, PvE n Singleplayer are all their own games and cant really be compared with each other, sure they use the same building blocks but everything else is different
%100 luckily I have a group who can deal with all the toxicity. Been on officials for years. But everything he said is facts and officials is not a good idea for casual players.
I’ve been playing single player for pretty much my entire time on ark besides a few times me and some buddies got our own server felt like I was always missing part of the game so decided to try some pve servers yesterday and couldn’t even find a decent place to start maybe a small base because there was foundations and pillars literally everywhere so I think I’m gonna stick with my solo where I can have all the mods I want
When I first started playing ASE about 2 years ago I immediately saw how toxic official servers are. I was just trying to play on a PVE server, but as you described players had planted pillars all over the map so nobody else could build. This was on a fairly new server too but players had already done this.
We had something similar happen to us. Found us a little spot to build up and then proceeded as normal. Then all of his stuff despawned and our group swooped in and claimed their main base area.
The reason you saw so many pillars was because it was a "fairly" new server. You will see this even today as, more so on Pve cause people want to build really big and need the land to do so.. but it takes time so you plot out the land you need using pillars.. Now, if someone did this and didn't start on building then it can be reported and wildcard will give the tribe owner 24 hours to fix it or they will wipe it all.
@GAHJIE I understand what you are saying, but this wasn't someone just planning ahead. I literally could not find a single spot on the map where I could build. I didn't check the entire map but I did spend a good amount of time and covered a lot of ground but just couldn't find anyplace where I was able to build. After that experience I just decided I would either just play solo or on a private aerver.
@@jgrdgon like i said, if you know the person isn't building in the area that is pillared, then you can summit a ticket to wildcard and they will wipe all of the tribes structures.. So if you find a map that has a area you want to build in that's just pillars.. start building in a different area close by and report them. When wildcard comes to remove the spam you can take it over for yourself. Takes time but I rather that then a private server that the owner could shut down at any time.
foundation spam is so easy solveable..... 1. if you dont stick together enough building parts (lets say 48 at minimum -> 4x4 house with walls and ceilings) you simply will get a 24 hour decaytimer 2. timer only refreshes if you add something to the building - reloggin is not enough 3. with increasing pieces, the landclaim bubble and decay timeer increases from super tiny to mediocre and finaly to the maximum. So, if pillars dont give you the bubble you want and the convenience is gone to keep that stuff up, it will not happen any longer or at least become way less common.
So what about the people that don't build big boxes I've built tons of bases under 48 pieces so screw all the small based? And I've also done plenty of this on pve not just hidden pvp bases on pve I'm a simple man who will just have a small box or open lay out which rarely is more then 48 structures snapped together
Official is the way to go for pve cause of the trading scene and where all the real dino breeding goes down. Another thing about unofficial is all the mods and boosted rates are easy mode and the game get boring pretty fast cause you can have and do everything to fast. Also your problem is you look at it from a pvp pov. Pvp is always where the most toxic people will be. Imo ark pvp kinda sucks, why would you want to spend so much time breeding dinos for certain stats and colors, building a base and all the other grindy stuff ark offers only to have it killed/wiped and all the time out the window and have to watch your back 24/7 then after all of that you just get raided while your offline. No thanks on that.
i agree one of the biggest reasons i stopped playing official is because of ridiculous amount of pillars that prevent you from building or even accessing places. They need to give an allotted amount of build space and thats it. I 100% agree you in this video.
The thing I felt on the offical PVE servers was a stong sense of commuity amongst most of the players on there, we made some really good friends over the years we played and it was always nice that most players on our servers stuck together and helped each other. When we joined unofficial servers we mostly felt like outcasts just because we were more experienced and more used to "the grind". It seemed like you always needed permission to build somewhere or do something. When we achieved something, there was always someone who was friends with/payed an admin just to get something better (dinos,bps,element, etc). For the foundation part I understand that 100% but we also used to pillar an area around our base just to have some space to the next base and we used to pillar important resources because many people would build a farming base on top of them therefor blocking most of the resources. On PVP I have to totally agree. When we started ark we joined a friends offical PVP tribe and it was a toxic experience.
I remember on ASE, we were on an official server, I had never played on it, my friend had for 3 days. There were only 10 people online rn, and one was like: Ey, where do you live, I can help u. I was questioning it, but my Teammate trusted the guy, so we told him our coords. Then he came with a like lvl 1k giga and destroyed our entire base. My friend asked him why he did it and he said: You have to give my tribe 33% of your resources each week, or I'll raid you! It was our "first" day. That is when I stopped playing official.
I love stuff like this bc like good luck to him finding my hidden base in some stonecrack, its so thrilling. Ironically stuff like this is why i play official. But i get that thats not for every1, especially not when they play for the first time
Official isn't for everyone, probably not even most people but it does offer more of a challenge which can especially be welcome for PVE players, and it draws out the journey of building up (best part about the game imo) so that you don't just rush to the end game in a few hours. In PVP its different because its more of a race to the endgame and so the disadvantage of falling behind is a lot more detrimental. Toxic players can also be a lot more of a problem on officials too because WC doesn't just ban them like a server admin can, but usually the majority of the server will be against them until they eventually leave.
Yeah because pvping in a pvp game is bannable? Lmfao get banned by clowns because I kill someone's dinosaur? No thx. Official I cn do anything if I get wiped oh well I get to build up again
There is nothing that is more challenging on official pve as opposed to single player with official settings or an unofficial server with official settings EXCEPT the behaviour of other players who have no moderation ...and the lag.
@@p3wp3wCthulhu the bosses on official have higher hp than bosses on single player with official settings turned on lmfao, official settings isn't actually official settings
Honestly I’ve played a bit of official pvp on evolved but I played single player/unofficial for ever and on unofficial all I got was bad admins, no players and a server eventually dying. On single player I got everything I could have wanted but it was so lonely. I came to official bc I can no longer play the game alone, and unofficial is not stable enough. Official has a lot of bada but I like the stability and constant amount of people playing it. It had lots of pros and if u plan on playing ark ALOT, I recommend official, but I don’t recommend for average casual players due to longevity of things in game
I agree with what you're saying but I still prefer officials. It's not for everyone. I like the thrill of pvp and politics involved in surviving. It's like a zombie apocalypse where zombies aren't the real threat, people are. Dinos aren't the threat, people are. You have to out smart them in pvp or politically through trading/alliances etc. It's a super toxic environment but something about it is also thrilling and you can't get that in pve or single player.
Also while there is a lot of toxicity in official pvp there are a lot of people that are nice. You won't find it as much on regular official cause mega tribes. But pre mega tribes and on small tribes there are plenty of nice people and tribes you can interact with. On my server on ASE we would actively supply noobs and bobs with tames and structures. Most unofficial servers also aren't as welcoming as they seem. You get a fair amount of favorites or pay to win or admins just banning you attacked them.
7:25 my response in the comments. I agree with your thoughts about pvp but not pve: 1. Once transfers open up you can transfer and trade resources anywhere. The resources you obtain on official can be compared to.... earning a degree at an official university. Whereas the resources you obtain on unofficial is like.... getting a degree from Trump University. Only a handful of people will recognize it having any intrinsic value. 2. The mods and the admins spawning in game items leads to almost like a form of "monetary inflation". When you set the rates to 4x and every beach Bob and his baby's momma has a Tek Tier mansion: it loses its, again, intrinsic value. It'd be like printing everyone in america a billion dollars. 3. Most admins are politically left. They are pro marxism, pro homosexuality, and get triggered by the slightest joke. So if you make a comment or a political opinion they don't like or agree with. They will simply just wipe your whole base and call you "toxic". 4. The server owner can simply just stop paying and you lose all your stuff. 5. Unofficial has little to no pve player base. If you want to argue with me. Simply order all unofficial servers by players. You will find dozens of official servers 70/70 in a thriving community, but the highest player count you'll ever find on unofficial pve is like 10 But I do share common ground and agree with you about PVP. it's superior on unofficial. 1. The Chinese hackers of official make the game unplayable (i would be banned for racism and wiped on a pve unofficial by some triggered admin for making that FACTUALLY CORRECT statement). 2. On pvp you need an admin or a referee to govern the fairplay of high stakes game like Ark. 3. Pvp official is too easily monopolized by mega tribes. 4. On pvp, no server transfers is good. You don't want some mega tribe spawning in and wiping everyone
I like to enjoy the pvp aspect of the game as without it I feel the game has a short endgame ceiling, unofficial has it's fair share of issues too with admin abuse and uncertainty of the servers staying up and retaining a healthy amount of players to interact with as I lose motivation on the game when there is little to no players to have fun with. Experience I had on unofficial was the community on a server would die off completely after 2 weeks to 1month. Starting again on a new server after just getting well setup playing casually while managing a full time job can be really tiring and demotivating.
If the raiding was like Conan and there were raid times at weekend this game would appeal to so many more people Too hard/long to grind too quick to loose everything- and to often you won’t even be online when you get wiped
I'm not sure if they have them for ASA but on ASE they had official servers with ORP (offline Raid Protection). I think you would enjoy these types of servers.
The major issue I had with official servers is the "get off of my server mentality. I mean what does a huge tribe have to fear from a solo player in a thatch hut? I call it RPR or Rust Player Rabies. It is spread by being mauled by others that have it and it truly spreads like a disease. Otherwise nice players get infected and start lashing out at anything with a pulse. I'm lucky to have found an unofficial with a good community.
its the challenge if extreme revenge... the adrenaline of losing your best raised tames when your fighting. the sentimental loss the game can provide make official pvp the most intense wins and losses ive ever experienced in a game. its not for everyone but I would never take the year and half I have on ark back! and im exited to do it all again on asa!
I suppose all of that is true about PvP games, but most of it wouldn't make sense for PvE. What I don't like about official servers in PvE games is lag kills, and Alpha Dinosaur traps that somehow prevent escape even with a flyer. In ARK SA they have a resurrection option, and no doubt a lot of players know how to use the process to get around "cheat kills", but I don't. I have also noticed it has to be done within 24 hours.
Problem is there's not really good options for unofficial PvP. All the unofficial PvP servers die in one month, always have a big risk of admin abuse, all get tempted into making the rates 20x or something ridiculous, etc. MTS is the only option but that's even sweatier than official servers. Less cheats at least to be fair though.
This is partly true, but finding a good server that has good pop for over a week isnt that hard. The rates are often high but that is probably because people actually like that and lower rates are not a necessity for a good experience.
@@edvinkandenas348 yes, but you dont understand this. Theres way more people enjoying lower rates than higher ones. And exactly that is why they play official. Unofficial is simply ark on easy mode for a lot of people and its less rewarding for them. So most play official as the servers dont die off in a week due to how easy and unrewarding they are. The reason why official(but also games like league, dead by daylight, valorant or a lot of other shooters etc) are so popular is because that they dont pump their players full with rewards over nothing like a lot of unofficial servers in ark do. Sadly the part that makes people addicted to a game is quite literally the annoying, painful sht they go through to reach a goal. Most Unofficial servers only work for big casuals and people that arent a fan of grinding (and therefore quit after a week) Also these official servers are more toxic bc, well, grinding is annoying and makes white men with no impulse control salty (and because those grinding servers have more people that play more consistently on them)
I played official for about a year and when I found a legit tribe it was fun..... for a while. But then came the meshers, the god mode'rs, and the mega tribes who will raid you for days none stop and roll back servers when they lose anything.
I completely agree with everything you said but I will be playing official pve, the thing I enjoy about official is connecting with people from across multiple servers and I get more satisfaction from official, however I will also be playing unofficial and single player too. But would never play PVP official because they are indeed far too toxic
@@FATMAC2 ngl bro im one of those people who pillar lol, you literally have to or youre eventually going to be confined to some 2 by 2 foundation base on the beach. Imo official PVE is better if ur able to claim ur spot lol plus they dont wipe and ruin all ur progress like unofficial
Pve is garbage tho, ppl block note runs as well they Blick spots off like caves and you cannot even get in because pve, you can't blow ppl stuff up😂😂 maysel just pvp bri
@@jazduh1235so you wanna be a map blocker without ppl being able to fight back, pve is trash because of this lolol, Noone can wipe buildings to get at stuff artifacts n notes blocked, drops blocked what's the point
I played official pve on ASE and you are right….. sort of. I started with the island and looked for a place to build even a small camp so I could cook and sleep. I starved to death before I found any where I could build. There were either huge bases or foundations/pillars preventing any new builds. I tried several servers and after moving to crystal isles I finally found a pve server that not only could I build, but all the players were super helpful and friendly. So good servers exist unfortunately it may take a bit of digging to find them.
Teach, I'm just going to interject by saying that Ark is one of those games that has something for everybody. Whether a large portion of the community prefers unofficial or solo, that doesn't stop every single official server from filling up and staying full to the point of queues, and people aggressively foundation spamming areas of the map so that they don't get cut off or built on top of. There's value in official, that's why you see people selling land on FB, or people selling tames. Everything on official takes work, it's exactly that. Ark official is not a casual experience, no matter how bad you may want it to be. Official is slow, it takes work. All of which creates a recipe for competition. People get mad when they join official and see that the beaches are pillared and foundation spammed, but what they don't realize is a simple counter/bypass to that is simply taming a pteranodon and flying to more central locations of the map. Literally you can leave the beach and find countless build locations. Just don't join an official server that's been active 170+ days and assume that you're going to have first pick of where you want to build. I've been playing for about 200 hours on official and while nitrado servers are dogshit, it's still the same Ark experience I've always loved. Official gives me a since of accomplishment and satisfaction that no private server ever could.
As a PvE player, I enjoy Official. I still have my "day 1" tames and base location(s) from release. It is satisfying to be able to see all of my tribes progression, literally from day 1, no wipes or server deaths. For PvP I 100% agree that unofficial is the best route though.
I never actually tried official PvE but I would love to because singleplayer gets lonely sometimes and I wanna see people and other stuff but what I've heard is that even in PvE people can drown you or destroy your stuff. Is it like that?
@@jacfruit3843 I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, I’ve never seen it or experienced it on any of my servers. It’s possible to kite a wild giga to anyone’s base if you wanted to, you can also drag bodies so the drowning thing is possible but like I said I’ve never experienced it.
@@HillbillySnake Thank you for the answer. Maybe I give it a shot and try not to grind the shit out of me so I wouldn't get sad if someone destroys it 😂 ty
@@jacfruit3843just sleep on the bed you won’t have to worry about getting drowned lol it’s lesson people teach to those who don’t use the bed as intended lol
@@notquitelikebro Ty for that tip! I tried to play on officials yesterday but after a few servers and 5 hours not finding any place to put down anything because of pillars/foundations everywhere (even in the snow biome), I gave up playing on officials. :/ That was insane.
Either that or they couldn’t pay for it anymore, I have an unofficial server that I’m paying for if you still play this game you’re more than welcome to join. We want people to play on the server.
PvE spam is mainly to block people from killing dino and resource spawns. Nothing worse than going to a resource location just to see someone has built there and killed the spawn. Granted some people go ott with it.
He's blatantly ignoring fact, using a few personal experiences as examples, demonizing a huge park of ark community for his own goal of views, it's wild, and he refuses to elaborate or actually debate this topic.
GCM was on for a couple hours and they wiped the servers and reset them all. But there were numerous dupe bugs, one where crafting stations didnt consume resources and one where you could dupe with a bee hive. Dont get me wrong it was a clusterfuck launch but get it right.
Interesting how he would never respond to this but half of it is wrong or blow to higher proportions and with him complaining about ini I'm pretty sure he did a video of the commands for it so he'll complain about it but happily still profit views for it producing that content directly on the thing he's hating on
7:47 95% of players should heed this advice from Teach. But, I want to share perspective of an official only player. There’s nothing quite like an official mega tribe server wipe. Busting into the enemy hatchery with a giga and demolishing months of breeding line work. Why would you do this!? You monster! Well it was usually from someone coming to our servers, talking trash and sniping tames/meshing and exploiting. A single troll from a random server can come and ruin weeks of work by themselves. There is never really a sure fire way to determine who exactly did it, so entire servers get wiped for this. Right now there are no transfers on asa, so there are servers where an “alpha” coexists with other tribes, but these coalition servers are usually the ones that fall first. They are the ones likely to have trolls that would do the above griefing and get their server targeted. They don’t have unified goals and access to materials, they can’t login and stop 70 players from filling their server at the drop of a hat. So this is really why the servers are locked down, some of us are kinda sorry about it, but it is what it is. For me personally, I both absolutely love this game, but also love that adrenaline rush you get from pvp, and have chased it all the way to where I’ll wager tames I have devoted tons of time to. I’ve built lifelong friendships from this game. There’s been drama and intrigue galore along the way. No different than any other MMORPG community, but we all love THIS game. So, if you are in that 5% of masochists that enjoy that type of gameplay, keep an eye out for official tribe recruiting on the official discord it does happen, but not often. Once you’re in, it’s like high stakes poker at all times, and there is NOTHING else like it in gaming today.
The best official experience, IMO, were on the 'beginner' servers, where the level was capped at 44 and if you wanted to get to 49, you had to chibi your way there. The servers wiped every couple of months. You had a mix of noobs just starting and experienced players looking for a different experience. Sure, there was some pillar spamming but you could work around it and find actual helpful people to play around and play with. There were plenty of other official PVE servers where the community was actually welcoming and helpful, but that was possible because there were so many maps, so much space and auto-decay as people found other games to play. ASA is a looooong way from that experience!
I was an unofficial player on ase but quit the game because of official players. I got doxxed, sent rape and death threats multiple times and those people called their official friends to seige my base. It was 30 of them vs me and my friend. The server admin recently had set up his server so you could buy dinos and gear, and these 30 ppl were throwing money at the server to harass me so he wasn't incentivized to ban them for their behavior which was against his rules. It got so bad that a few tribes from my server came to help me. The official players were actually really bad at the game, but they had numbers and set up shifts so that my base was under siege 24/7, even while i was asleep and at work. After a week of this I said no more, and I haven't been able to touch Ark until ASA, I was traumatized and couldn't even see the old Ark main menu without having panic attacks. Official players are absolutely horrendous and ruin the game for the rest of us.
Official is the only way to truly enjoy the game, with all the extra boosted/modded unofficial servers, you getting bored so fast everything is too easy
I get it for pvp no one really wants to spend hours a day building up from wood to stone just to get offline raided and do the same thing tomorrow, but for pve official is definitely the best way to go.
@@AaronJohnson-dd3opunofficial is also for people with a lot of real life responsibilities, friends, families, children, or things to do in their day to day lives.
Official hardcore servers are actually quite manageable for a solo player or small tribe to survive and thrive on. I've searched for but never found any unofficial hardcore servers. I also don't like the idea of some random dude as an admin who can erase thousands of hours of work at his will just by shutting down the server or kicking me for some unjustified personal reason. Official servers stay there for longer and players have to follow some general rules set by the people who made the game. Unofficial servers are usually also set to much higher rates and the game is made much easier because people are not serious about their gaming life. I'd like the hardest settings possible in the most realistic way as possible with the idea to perhaps stay alive and never die for ten years to come on a server. It's unlikely to reach that goal, but at least it's with that mindset I take on the challenges and prioritize my risk taking.
I fully agree and it’s why I play official. I been playing solo on asa official pvp and so far been having lots of fun. Years of playing ase solo taught me how to hide my base properly and stay incognito around the alpha tribes.. have multiple bases so you don’t lose your progress off of one raiding- it’s stuff like that which I actually enjoy. There’s obviously the toxicity that you have to get past but it’s not too in your face on the sever I play on (2315)
I understand you as playing on non-harcore servers though. I highly dislike all the cheating and limitless toxicity you may encounter on official, but it's not that in your face on hardcore either (but on those non-hardcore servers I've played on). Good for you that you've found a decent server, but I highly recommend to try hardcore if you haven't already. I'm not so much into fighting and trying to have at least one out of many bases unraided. I'm more into making bases that last for long and try to survive as long as possible. It's also fun to do some raids occasionally, but of course without cheating and preferably when people are online.@@jackvolkwyn470
Official means it's a bad in life. I want to know more about what is better in Ark. Then the negative cause official is negative.🎉 There are more better things than ark Like enjoying the game for what it's made for. The game was made for PVE to enjoy life with Dinosaurs, not the opposite.🎉
I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned this but another reason not to play on official servers is your progress is very unlikely to be preserved. All ASE official servers closed, while unofficial servers remained open. The will likely happen again if they decide to make an unreal engine 6 version. Unofficial does depend on the host though, so finding one who just decides not to keep their server running, would be unfortunate if you put a lot of work in.
2000H on official Ark Servrs (pve)solo or 2- 3 man some times. Boss kills, trade,kind people.and its free. So Just a simple NO. Stupid people exist everywhere. 🎉 so dont listen to this Video. 😂And no its Not true on every Server 😂😂. OMG 😂😂
Also makes a big difference when you're playing 6 years into the games lifespan and there's barely any players vs the launch of the new game. If you don't think most things are pillared off or "claimed" on current PVE servers you're lost.
Completely agree, thanks for summing it up so clearly. I played on Unofficial for most of my Ark time and it was great because if anyone ever did pillar spam or harassing, they were gone. It was there for us all to enjoy. We all shared the server with respect. That's the way it should be.
Im watching all your videos and I am on an official server. Some of your grieving points and raids I get, but after 200 hours on our server we don't get raided anymore and everyone is chill with each other. The good people out lasted the toxic players. Now everyone is working together and leaving stuff for each other. We are building bridges and no longer even fight each other. It's pretty great, but there isn't really a PVE level of crazy building. It's more of a fun competitive nature.
I play Ark with my wife. And we did non-dedicated for the longest and the tether sucks honestly. That’s the reason why we play official. But if anyone knows a good unofficial. I just worry the people running it just may decide to shut it down tomorrow 🤷♂️
I’ve been watching your videos for some time now and have been subscribed for awhile. But I haven’t commented until now. I could not agree with you more. Every word from your mouth is truth. Thank you for your videos teach, love them all. Good luck on your 100k, you deserve it!
My lvl 105 character was on an Oceanic Small Tribes server and just got back from a break to find the entire server was deleted from inactivity. Nothing online seems to mention this at all so I'm assuming my character has been permanently deleted along with the server...
I hate when people play ark FOR THE FIRST TIME and they do it on OFFICIAL SERVERS, then they go on to say ark is trash based on that experience. 🤦♂ Ark should only be played on private servers with friends or singleplayer, official is a trap that sucks the fun out of any casual player or noob that joins it.
The thing that bothers me the most is how hard it is to download mods on the ps5 at least the server will ask for example 200mb to join the server then u start downloading the mods and it downloads 800mb and it doesnt stop just keeps going and u never join the server no matter how many times i try to download it at some point it just stops downloading completely
I tried over years to run solo on official server. I was able to run some bosses but i couldnt run them all over the past 6years. Sounds crazy to not complete a game after all these years. But i love to have this goal
Official pve is a test of patience and mental endurance. And wildcard does wipe tribes that spam, but you just have to have like I said patience. I played official pve on my ps4 for over a year and loved it, and the community. But you definitely have to get yourself a piece of land and find a server with a good community, where the mega tribes work together to squeeze out the trolls and Pilar control building on resources and poi’s
If the majority of your viewers are non official players then your voting will reflect that that does not mean that the statistics are accurate. There are also more officials than just the mega tribe officials I think right now we just have small tribes but like ASE we should eventually be getting ark poc crossarks and maybe more. There are toxic people everywhere not just official. A lot of players on official are not toxic and just enjoy the game and working together. They are just not as loud on social media as the toxic players. A few negative points you left out for official mega tribe servers: When server transfers start Chinese Mega tribes and maybe non Chinese mega tribes will invade a server by capping it and keeping it blocked until they have clapped the main tribe or tribes on that server If they start losing they will ddos the server They will have aimbotters and they will mesh where possible. Pocket devs will protect and sometimes assist their favorite mega tribes This is from the ASE experience anyway we will see when server transfers open. Right now there are a lot of players trying to lock down their servers in hopes of actually competing against the mega tribes. A lot of players also ducked out due to the servers constantly going down staying down for a while then coming back up rolled back and progress lost. If you are solo or a small tribe Mega tribe officials is not a great place to be.
The real problem is rmt. It’s always been a problem and if wildcard wanted to stop the toxic behaviors and the spamming on pve servers, wildcard just needs to remove the ability to “unclaim” Dino’s and trading. Even in pvp with cryopods destroying bases shouldn’t be a gain of others Dino’s. It broke the game more.
Me and my buddy’s are on an official PVE server right now and it’s a horrible the ping has never dropped below 150 and and people with these mega builds are a huge issue and trying to find a decent spot to build a house. Either on the beach or in the mountain tops is a pain in the ass because they have the foundations or pillars. And if you fly over any of the homes or anything, it gets really laggy, especially on console because it’s having a hard time trying to keep up with everybody’s shit.
The problem with unofficial is mods add convenience, once you dip your toes in the water with convenience it's hard not to just dive in, easier stacking? Better building? Convenience and utility items? Better and new Dinos? Maybe up the server settings? Faster tame/breeding? Higher resource yield? Just command give items? Spawn in Dinos? God mode complete the tek cave without damage? It's an easy rabbit hole, it's so much more gratifying to complete the game with no access to the above, and to see others building up around you. I'm on official now, have been for weeks, and there's a TON of claimable land still. Sure the starter areas have been BUSY, yes, and the server stability is sloooowly getting better. But at least it's a complete game, and convenience isn't threatening to ruin the experience.
I love how hard official feels. The authentic earlygame gameplay, how fast you can lose everything. The feeling of randomly finding a body of an alpha tribe person with cracked loot, that its way harder to farm or to make progress(this makes it more rewarding for me, i dont like tek) and suprisingly i do like that a run of official often ends after a week bc u got raided. Sadly things that i never got to experienceon unofficial even after countless hours of searching and trying out. Even tho i dont have a problem with toxic things like notruns being blocked (more challenging and i like that) i agree that the official community is way too toxic
@TeachersGameToo to be fair I've been told the same thing about having to be toxic, or having to join a mega tribe. On ASE official I formed a pretty wholesome tribe that only grew and grew and we became an alpha tribe on our server. We were good to everyone except for those raided off server lol. We were the most toxic to each other (in party jokes 😭). We helped many people in the game. And manage to get the platinum in official PVp. We all welcome the challenge.
pros of official -free -many people to meet/trade with -default ark experience of pain and suffering -very rewarding for enduring said "pain and suffering" cons -42/70 players "session full" -crashes every 2 hours with a 30min-1hour roll back -some players are bungholes -my god getting 2 berries a bush or only 1 prime meat from 30 baby penguins
My first experience on a low population (5-7 players online in average) official PvP server: Building a small wooden cabin, one day later it got completely destroyed by a guy with a wyvern or however that creature is called. First experience on a official pve server: Logged in, metal foundations and cryofridges on the beach everywhere. Completely destroyed the beauty and atmosphere of the game for me. Experience with community servers: Mostly X5, X15 or even higher rates. I literally couldn’t find any community server with default harvesting / XP rates. So as it seems, I am forced to keep playing singleplayer…
I have about 3000hrs in Ark and about 100 now in ASA. The problem is the way they sell official servers vs. unoffical. They make it look like official servers are the way to play Ark but it is not. It's is only a small group of adhd kiddy fortnite style players that need that certain adrenalin kick. It always has been like this, it was the same with "old" Ark that PVP is what they wanna push and think people wanna play. But actually for all people I know Ark is an exploration in PVE and to play the game they way it is supposed to look like, the beauty, adventure, the experience and the fascination about dinosaurs (and fantasy creatures when you play other maps than the island). And PVE is incredibly hard and time consuming when you use the out-of-the-box config settings, it is impossible to see the full game for the average small tribe. But even getting access to PVE unoffical multiplayer as a person with little tech knowhow is hard. You can only play this game solo unless you have somebody who know stuff and who invites you to a private server or helps you set up and maintain a local dedicated server if you have a good pc to spare. Just hiding unoffical servers behind this tiny button in the main menu and warning you that this is not the way to play Ark is ridiculous. So a solution for me would be to seperate and advertise both styles equally in the main menu and make it easier to run private servers by offering a proper server management tool with a nice GUI for .ini tuning explaining all the hundrets of tweaks better (kinda what ASM did for old Ark but built-in) with presets for easy/medium/hard and balance and explaining those nicely. So stuff like benchmarking and speed running would be possible and comparable too.
As much as I 100% agree with you after 5 years on official- I kinda miss the ark experience- btw you can play official and not be toxic yourself but it is deffo a full time job
Last time i played official I found a house that actually lasted about 3 months with no turrets just a stone house, but it had a sign that said "i have a job and kids i cant play much please dont raid" and it actually got him surviving for ages
These problems probably due exist in Ark but I have been on PVE official 5409 since launch day without these issues now moving onwards towards day 300. Reason pillars are put in place to protect resource spawns, pathways, and beach access in spawning zones, plus if a player quiets after few days his thatch or wood foundation will be gone. If you want to build a massive base move inland where you will have free reign to build your 100x100 mega structure not clog path where newbies are trying to spawn, and players are trying to move freely. I have 150 of every kibble type, my character is level 90, I have lvl 220 babies growing in my base. I am a solo player. I am approaching about 15 therizinosaurus several 150 wild tamed with kibble. I personally play for long haul and when Scorched Earth drops I will more than likely be moving there until Ragnarok comes out. Official servers are hard as you make them and if you must reach end game, now now now, and you want it all, and you want it now? Well, official servers are probably not for you. Officials require patience and yes, the downside would be the lag but I have met some really cool folks on officials usually it's a bustling trade and social experience etc. because things are just worth a lot more due to everything taking time, commitment, willingness to just have patience because you're playing with 70/70 every night and tribes of many different sizes and flavors. That's just my thoughts but if you want to play unofficial, try it, just be warned all things mentioned in video game be seen in unofficial because the admins have all the power to do with their server and play as they wish... and when they're tired whose stopping them from quitting and no longer keeping the server maintained, i.e free from cheaters, and more importantly keeping the server online.
On ASE I played single player, unofficial PvP with boosted everything, official PvE and official PvP. And while yes the official PvP community can be toxic, it’s also the most rewarding. Me and some buddies created Some of the best gaming memories from those servers. Raiding or defending your base with everything on the line creates a sense of exhilaration that is unmatched by ANY game. Trust, betrayal, politics, toxicity, manipulation all are required to be successful in PvP. Joined a server once where we started on a raft we’d hide in the ocean, then built a hidden base where we crafted all the parts to a bigger base off the side of The Center map (easily defendable) made friends aling the journey. We worked together to wipe the toxic alphas and then got bored and went to war with the guys we had been working with since the beginning. Yes obviously a lot of hurt people and a lot of lost stuff but absolutely worth the struggle to get there.
I agree with what you say but there are pros and cons to both official and unofficial. Problem with joining unofficial is the admins might decide to close the server down when they get bored of playing, a mod might need updating and prevent you joining, lots of mods cause problems, they can conflict with each other and break. Some unofficial servers are ghost towns, I like playing and seeing people online. The event items will disappear in unofficial once the event is over, they don’t on official. Sometimes you get toxic admins on unofficial who restrict your game play with their rules, or you have players complaining to the admins if your break a rule you were unaware of. A lot of unofficial servers restrict your building size and locations. I like the freedom of official, I can do what I want without having to clear it with server admins.
I can't say that you're wrong because you're almost 100% right about everything except the part where you said on every official PVP server they're trying to force you out. I've been playing for about 3 weeks now and honestly I think out of the 10 or so servers I went through before finding a server that I found comfortable only 1 of them had someone actively trying to lag the server and it was for like 20 minutes because someone annoyed him. nobody wants to waste their whole day lagging a server... not only is it boring but that would also effect HIS tribe. I am pretty sure if you're experiencing lag constantly that might just be your PC struggling to load probably some tribe with an absurd amount of dinos. that's something you'll experience on any server.
OMG there is a spanish youtuber that makes his own servers and has every season its own story RP and almost any follower can join at least when i used to watch him play. he had also rules for the pvp like not killing creatures if they are in passive and they dont block base parts with weaknesses in the base it was so cool seeing them taking care of people that break rules by raiding them normaly without useing admin power till they cant play anymore cause usually thats what such people did
I've played official since scorched earth. I nearly quit after some people griefed me but I was a hard beach bob at that point. I persisted and made a good base and enjoyed my time there. As time went on and new maps came out I saw assholes and met great friends. It's been and will likely continue to be a great and terrible time and I wouldn't trade it for anything. I always have told people you have to admit to a certain level of masochism to enjoy ark. Caee in point, I once played a 24 hour session at 255 ping the whole day cause I wanted to play more than that bothered me. Am I insane for that? Probably but the community, both good and bad, is what I enjoy about it and official gives me that. I've seen and felt the pain of pretty much everything you described but I persisted and survived. I may do unofficial to play modded ark with friends but official will remain my home.
The anonymity of the internet has highlighted the depravity and wickedness in games. If a street address were tied to every IP address there would be a lot less toxic digital community.
Online is garbage no matter where you play. Official PvE has pillar idiots, Official PvP nothing more needs to be said. Unofficial servers have facist admins and griefers who cheat, the rates are stupid and they have truckloads of annoying mods, if you host a server with friends, then eventually they get bored and stop paying and you lose all your work that you put in. Single player is the best and where it's at. No need to pay greedy server companies, YOU get to choose the rates, YOU get to choose the mods, all maps are accessible, if you decide to stop playing a month or even a year, everything will still be there when you last left it. Single player Ark is and will always be superior.
Often in unofficial clusters, admins build community centers where people can gather, craft, trade, throw away unwanted stuffs for other players to get, events, minigames, etc...
When ASA released i spend 3 days trying to play official pve, there was lag, server being full, rollbacks, not being able to conect, pillar and foudation spam, it was so horrible i nearly quit the game but thankfully i found some good unofficial private pve server and im still playing there sinc release.
Yeah, I figured Official would be taxic. Just wait until other maps come out. They will move on. I 100% agree with you on the PVE thing. I don't understand why people can't just play together.
Really wanted to get back into ASA after Scorched Earth came out, just joined a PvE official server since I didn't feel like wasting my life away on PvP again, I know I'm late, but not *that* late, yet I cannot find a single decent spot to build on officials. PvE players have completely blocked off *all* oil rig locations, *all* metal spawn locations, *all* build spot locations, I'm literally camped up at a water well next to a spawn location. Now I *have* looked through other servers, but I'm not a fan of server hopping constantly, don't have the time or energy to do that anymore, I went through 3 different servers, all of which are the same, mostly everything is already locked down with stone foundations w/ ladders. I want to enjoy official servers because of the large player base on them, but imma just take my leave over to an unofficial server...
So for those of us playing solo, are we on official servers and how can we use an unofficial server to stop turning down every setting we can find to the point that it looks like ASE to make stop crashing?
I have 214 days in ark survival evolved and I can't find a place to build, last night I realized the 3rd server I've tried has the tame limit met already
as a official pve server player, i will tell you guys that people foundation spam the entire beach, every square inch. you always have 100-255pings. it crashes every 1 hour and rollbacks 30 mins so its basically impossible to get anything done. every time the server crashes it resets decay timers so all those thatch foundations will never decay. theres so little servers with so many players so youll get your spot taken if your game crashes. dino ai SUCKS, every time you shoot a crossbow it doesnt hit 50% of its hits, and takes 10 seconds to reload each time. you WILL mesh and lose everything in your inv, doesnt matter how good you are it will happen. theres so many things that are messed up and ruined. the only good thing about offical is you have tons of other people to help you out.
100% agree. I'm new ark player (1 month). I was playing on official pvp server for a week or so and it was no fun at all. People just killling your tames even if you didn't attack them and raiding bases almost every day/night when I was offline. No point wasting my time anymore and starting again from basically zero every 2 days...
What's up👋, I was thinking about playing this game but before I did, I happened to stumble upon your video, and big shout out to you because it was very informative. You actually helped me decide if I'll play it or not...and if I do, I know the exact way to go. Preciate'cha😂
I enjoy the suspense of early game in official pvp and being sneaky on a server until I eventually work my way to the top, but at the top is the worst, it feels like a chore to do most things end game just to maintain things, and yes toxicity is rampant and I wish it didn't exist however beating out those people is what drives me to make it to the top, every time I've ever became the top guy in a server I'd end up giving it all away to a bob because I've beat the server in my book.
I’ll be honest man the biggest issue for me wirh ark offical PVP was me having a really good base setup for the island (could compete with the alpha) and then a alpha from extinction or somewhere with insane hesr would transfer over and completely wipe us
i agree that official is unplayable rn, but unofficial is probably worse.... i have played twice on unofficial servs, first time the person stopped playing and server was taken down, so i lost all progress instantly with no warning... second time i found a spot at hidden lake and the server owner decided he wanted to build there and told me i had a week to relocate or he would ban me,,,, 2 days later without warning he banned me anyway even though i still had 5 days left in his mind to move from a spot that he "owned".... unofficial is a waste unless it is your own server because you never know who is gonna ban you or wipe your progress for no reason..... video should be "why you should never play unofficial" (unless you are buying your own server)
The pillaring areas is very frustrating on official PvE. Or the gates that block beaches and rivers so you need a flyer just to get around is hella annoying. However I think majority of official PvE isn’t as toxic as PvP. And it’s very unappealing watching PvP videos looking like there playing on Nintendo 64.
Actually the only problem with PVE officiall players are not those pillaring important zones but players who dont understand that there is 50 or more peaople that want to have acces to resources dinos and build base. Pillaring important places is required to prevent some " Bob " blocking resource spawns. And on official you need to comunicate with others cause you are not alone and if you are nice and willing to cooperate with the rest of server they will help you start and show you place where you can start building without bothering rest. Toxic players exist on PvE sure but are scarce and shunned by the rest of server comunity.
I really want (and yeah I know this will be unpopular), official premium servers that you can only access with a subscription. The sub pays for mods to actively monitor and remove players causing problems. Rules like no pillar/foundation spamming can be setup as meta rules that the moderators can enforce. Cheats can be perma banned via their steam account just on the premium servers since they don't want to ban cheats from official regular servers. even if a mod flies round a server twice a day for an hour it would have a massive impact on the game. I know this sounds like an unofficial server and it mostly is except for the part where the mod/admin on unofficial gets upset that he's been raided and just starts spawning stuff in or shuts down the server.
I used to play on official, and yes there are always people that do all those things. My fiance and I were mostly allowed to build what was needed to enjoy the game, BUT!!!, I couldn't deal with the having to be on daily or risk dinos dying or structure decay timers. Sure we could have joined a large tribe, but the risk of losing stuff you put a lot of time into is also great with inner tribe drama. Or how about structures just disappearing days before their timers were up or servers go down when raising babies that needed care/feeding?? We did make game friends and it was cool to trade with people or show off cool builds. But you can do that on unofficial servers too.
I think a better way to put it is only play official if you’re in a large tribe. At least 10-15 members. If your tribe is able to take over an entire server your tribe is free to do whatever you want on that map all day everyday.
Official feels like a job more then a game it’s bad
So true
Well formulated
I don't mind official rates what I truly mind is that damn taming and breeding time bro
It brings actual meaning to the game otherwise why would you play a survival game if you legit can’t not survive
@Motivational.mindset69 I'm not wasting 12hrs of my life raising a giga bro that's just for it to eat alone call it what you want I'm not "surviving" by watching a bar go up over 7 days and taking shifts like it's a job
9/10 times it’s the player base that kills the game. Main reason I stick to single player games nowadays, not wasting my time with toxic trash
You're not wrong about anything you said! However as an Official PVE player, i cant speak for everyone, but I get gratification of accomplishment if i can tame, breed, and beat bosses the hardest way possible. I feel like it makes your base/dinosaurs feel so much more meaningful :)
Ya same I usually dont play hard mode on other games but something about playing boosted rates on ark feels like cheating and its not nearly as satisfying to tame, build, breed, etc. compared to official rates
Official PVE is my preference as well. It just requires some etiquette and patience with toxic players. But trading and grouping up with complete strangers for boss fights has been my favorite thing in ark.
I think this video is more about pvp. I also prefer official pve as you get the satisfaction of reaching end game instead of having the option to spawn in anything in single player/ boosters for unofficial
Right pve official for life
I have the same.
I quit official a long time ago. It was way too toxic and filled with people that play 24/7 all year. Better off just playing unofficial or single player. It's still sad to see people think official is the only way to play the game.
Thank you for your honest input lol
Not the only way, just the better way.
there is no worng way to play.. Official is just the hardway and alot of fun to many.
If you're talking about pvp yes. If it's pve then official is the only way to go
@@MoIds0official pve is the worst, ppl block caves and notes and drops and ypu can't do anything about it because pve
When ASE came out and server transfers were not implemented yet, playing on official was great. Everybody knew each other, it was a microcosmos of its own and although PvP was possible, all the tribes stuck together and only went against the (back then) rare griefers. This totally changed once servertransfers were added - the toxicity swept over The Island like a wave of phiomiapoop... since then I never played official again and spent thousands of hours happily on different private servers.
This is exactly how it happened
so glad to hear this from someone else, i played on 683 center back in the day and the community was amazing, then they added transfers and every big tribe that was keeping our server protected from griefs got raided, they had the upper hand before because they ran things, it was official but they owned it cuz nobody could raid. Ark was never the same after transfers
Server transfers were a massive mistake. They just favor the attacking parties, because their only stakes are the dinos that they send in, wheras the defenders stand to (and typically will) lose everything. Closed off communities sort of policed themselves and had an organically emerging diplomacy.
It is often argued that server transfers were necessary to prevent tyrannical alphas, who ruled their servers with an iron fist. But instead server transfers only allowed the tyranny to spread.
@@MightyJabroniI agree, the server transfers have ruined any chance at building up on official. You can’t compete with mega-tribes, you just can’t. I really miss old Ark before transfers.
So I agree with most of what you stated. However, as another person who has other real life requirements that limit my play time, I enjoy the official PVE side of the game and here’s why
1. With it being official I have the rest of the official community to trade with. Whether it be stats, color regions, or boss fights, some of the good friends I have made have been from the trading aspect you have on official.
2. You did mention finding a “good unofficial server”. That to me is the biggest hurdle. Putting weeks or months into a server for personality issues that can reset you at 0, or the server not receiving enough funding from players causing the server to shut down is just something I have dealt with and don’t feel like dealing with again.
This is the best and most accurate
well said
That’s 100%
Alright, Let me clarify something as well. If Ark somehow finds a way to get rid of some of the toxic stuff like ini, spawn camping, and other crap.... I think Ark Official COULD make a massive comback.... Thoughts?!? (Also, this video is 11:11 on accident.... Thats kinda cool!!!! )
Thanks man, I always wondered.
aye whats that dino transformation mod?
Hands down meshing is the worst issue with Ark pvp official. Insiding is the next worst issue, but there isn't a punishment incentive for that kind of behavior in Ark. If they could 100% fix meshing and everyone had to raid fairly. Would be so much better.
As a 31000 hour player official will not make a come back the coding is all the same and cheats will live forever right now you can reserve your spot for ark 2 aimbot
Also on top of that there’s meshing they system in play does not stop anything just the people who know how to do it haven’t released it yet and prob won’t same with duping you can still show right now and you could say oh the devs will catch you that’s also false I will not explain how it’s done just know they will not fix it
I totally agree with you. I have been playing ARK the first day ASE came out and when single player came out I left and never looked back. I still remember looking for an Official server and spawned in inside a metal box that I could not get out of. There was even a sign inside the box telling me, and anyone else who spawned in the box to get the F off their server. I never played on offical again.
I have had that happen in early ark lol
Sorry but I did the same thing. Sorry 😔
I had that happen on PvE and I went scorched earth on that Tribe.
Reported them and then blasted them in the chat.
Got karma a while later when, due to their poor choices and getting Ark’d they needed help getting back on their feet.
Reminded them of their spawn locking box and told them to pound sand.
@@Skydron Wow, even on PvE where you would think it might be "safer" lol nope still the same toxic players their too
@@Wolfcub23 Those were the good old days. They didn't last long but they were glorious.
I love unofficial PVE. It's more like a community. Most have certain settings turned up so the game is not such a grind and you can be having more fun, whether your into breeding, fighting or building. A good unofficial also have great admins as arguments, trolls, pillering etc still happen, but they can be dealt with quickly. It's fun doing stuff together, sometimes with total strangers from all around the world. Us older long termers helping newbies to the game so they enjoy ark instead of quitting and never playing again.
Just 3 days ago we got the locals to take down a 135 alpha Rex together. We all had Argys and we all attacked it together and defeated it. That 15 mins of fighting was so fun that we agreed to do brood mother together and megapithacus together in the future.
Pve bob 🤡
@@RobertParaleywhy even comment? Get a life 😂🤓
People place pillar everywhere so others can't build.
depends... if you are looking for a fun chill experience then yeah, stay away from offi.
but if you want a challenge like no other then hop on offi.
its no different from a competitive fps, theres the tryhard offi/ranked and the chill pve, singleplayer/casual.
personally i play ark for that excitement, for the grueling pvp, the week long raids, the camaraderie, etc etc. i have made friends through ark pvp that im closer to than some of my irl friends
saying one is bad and you should NEVER TOUCH IT N BLAA BLAA is just being simple minded. you prefer single player and a chill experience, and others prefer the grueling difficulty.
ngl this video just seems like ragebait, the argument you are making is essentially "board games are better then console games"... PvP, PvE n Singleplayer are all their own games and cant really be compared with each other, sure they use the same building blocks but everything else is different
%100 luckily I have a group who can deal with all the toxicity. Been on officials for years. But everything he said is facts and officials is not a good idea for casual players.
Thank you for your honest input lol
I’ve been playing single player for pretty much my entire time on ark besides a few times me and some buddies got our own server felt like I was always missing part of the game so decided to try some pve servers yesterday and couldn’t even find a decent place to start maybe a small base because there was foundations and pillars literally everywhere so I think I’m gonna stick with my solo where I can have all the mods I want
When I first started playing ASE about 2 years ago I immediately saw how toxic official servers are. I was just trying to play on a PVE server, but as you described players had planted pillars all over the map so nobody else could build. This was on a fairly new server too but players had already done this.
We had something similar happen to us.
Found us a little spot to build up and then proceeded as normal.
Then all of his stuff despawned and our group swooped in and claimed their main base area.
The reason you saw so many pillars was because it was a "fairly" new server. You will see this even today as, more so on Pve cause people want to build really big and need the land to do so.. but it takes time so you plot out the land you need using pillars.. Now, if someone did this and didn't start on building then it can be reported and wildcard will give the tribe owner 24 hours to fix it or they will wipe it all.
@GAHJIE I understand what you are saying, but this wasn't someone just planning ahead. I literally could not find a single spot on the map where I could build. I didn't check the entire map but I did spend a good amount of time and covered a lot of ground but just couldn't find anyplace where I was able to build. After that experience I just decided I would either just play solo or on a private aerver.
@@jgrdgon like i said, if you know the person isn't building in the area that is pillared, then you can summit a ticket to wildcard and they will wipe all of the tribes structures.. So if you find a map that has a area you want to build in that's just pillars.. start building in a different area close by and report them. When wildcard comes to remove the spam you can take it over for yourself. Takes time but I rather that then a private server that the owner could shut down at any time.
@@GAHJIEyeah let's submit a ticket to wild card, only gunna take then half a year to respond and probably not even help you at all😂
foundation spam is so easy solveable.....
1. if you dont stick together enough building parts (lets say 48 at minimum -> 4x4 house with walls and ceilings) you simply will get a 24 hour decaytimer
2. timer only refreshes if you add something to the building - reloggin is not enough
3. with increasing pieces, the landclaim bubble and decay timeer increases from super tiny to mediocre and finaly to the maximum.
So, if pillars dont give you the bubble you want and the convenience is gone to keep that stuff up, it will not happen any longer or at least become way less common.
So what about the people that don't build big boxes I've built tons of bases under 48 pieces so screw all the small based? And I've also done plenty of this on pve not just hidden pvp bases on pve I'm a simple man who will just have a small box or open lay out which rarely is more then 48 structures snapped together
Official is the way to go for pve cause of the trading scene and where all the real dino breeding goes down. Another thing about unofficial is all the mods and boosted rates are easy mode and the game get boring pretty fast cause you can have and do everything to fast. Also your problem is you look at it from a pvp pov. Pvp is always where the most toxic people will be. Imo ark pvp kinda sucks, why would you want to spend so much time breeding dinos for certain stats and colors, building a base and all the other grindy stuff ark offers only to have it killed/wiped and all the time out the window and have to watch your back 24/7 then after all of that you just get raided while your offline. No thanks on that.
i agree one of the biggest reasons i stopped playing official is because of ridiculous amount of pillars that prevent you from building or even accessing places. They need to give an allotted amount of build space and thats it. I 100% agree you in this video.
The thing I felt on the offical PVE servers was a stong sense of commuity amongst most of the players on there, we made some really good friends over the years we played and it was always nice that most players on our servers stuck together and helped each other. When we joined unofficial servers we mostly felt like outcasts just because we were more experienced and more used to "the grind". It seemed like you always needed permission to build somewhere or do something. When we achieved something, there was always someone who was friends with/payed an admin just to get something better (dinos,bps,element, etc).
For the foundation part I understand that 100% but we also used to pillar an area around our base just to have some space to the next base and we used to pillar important resources because many people would build a farming base on top of them therefor blocking most of the resources. On PVP I have to totally agree. When we started ark we joined a friends offical PVP tribe and it was a toxic experience.
You are the pve d-bags lol
I remember on ASE, we were on an official server, I had never played on it, my friend had for 3 days. There were only 10 people online rn, and one was like: Ey, where do you live, I can help u. I was questioning it, but my Teammate trusted the guy, so we told him our coords. Then he came with a like lvl 1k giga and destroyed our entire base. My friend asked him why he did it and he said: You have to give my tribe 33% of your resources each week, or I'll raid you! It was our "first" day. That is when I stopped playing official.
I love stuff like this bc like good luck to him finding my hidden base in some stonecrack, its so thrilling. Ironically stuff like this is why i play official. But i get that thats not for every1, especially not when they play for the first time
Official isn't for everyone, probably not even most people but it does offer more of a challenge which can especially be welcome for PVE players, and it draws out the journey of building up (best part about the game imo) so that you don't just rush to the end game in a few hours. In PVP its different because its more of a race to the endgame and so the disadvantage of falling behind is a lot more detrimental. Toxic players can also be a lot more of a problem on officials too because WC doesn't just ban them like a server admin can, but usually the majority of the server will be against them until they eventually leave.
Yeah because pvping in a pvp game is bannable? Lmfao get banned by clowns because I kill someone's dinosaur? No thx. Official I cn do anything if I get wiped oh well I get to build up again
There is nothing that is more challenging on official pve as opposed to single player with official settings or an unofficial server with official settings EXCEPT the behaviour of other players who have no moderation ...and the lag.
@@p3wp3wCthulhu the bosses on official have higher hp than bosses on single player with official settings turned on lmfao, official settings isn't actually official settings
@@p3wp3wCthulhu dinos do not spawn properly with lvl 5 10 15 so on so fourth, official settings is legit not near the same as official official
@@bigbrisk8423 I have never heard of anyone getting a ban for killing someone's tame, I call bs.
Honestly I’ve played a bit of official pvp on evolved but I played single player/unofficial for ever and on unofficial all I got was bad admins, no players and a server eventually dying. On single player I got everything I could have wanted but it was so lonely. I came to official bc I can no longer play the game alone, and unofficial is not stable enough. Official has a lot of bada but I like the stability and constant amount of people playing it. It had lots of pros and if u plan on playing ark ALOT, I recommend official, but I don’t recommend for average casual players due to longevity of things in game
I agree with what you're saying but I still prefer officials. It's not for everyone. I like the thrill of pvp and politics involved in surviving. It's like a zombie apocalypse where zombies aren't the real threat, people are. Dinos aren't the threat, people are. You have to out smart them in pvp or politically through trading/alliances etc. It's a super toxic environment but something about it is also thrilling and you can't get that in pve or single player.
Also while there is a lot of toxicity in official pvp there are a lot of people that are nice.
You won't find it as much on regular official cause mega tribes.
But pre mega tribes and on small tribes there are plenty of nice people and tribes you can interact with.
On my server on ASE we would actively supply noobs and bobs with tames and structures.
Most unofficial servers also aren't as welcoming as they seem. You get a fair amount of favorites or pay to win or admins just banning you attacked them.
7:25 my response in the comments. I agree with your thoughts about pvp but not pve:
1. Once transfers open up you can transfer and trade resources anywhere. The resources you obtain on official can be compared to.... earning a degree at an official university. Whereas the resources you obtain on unofficial is like.... getting a degree from Trump University. Only a handful of people will recognize it having any intrinsic value.
2. The mods and the admins spawning in game items leads to almost like a form of "monetary inflation". When you set the rates to 4x and every beach Bob and his baby's momma has a Tek Tier mansion: it loses its, again, intrinsic value. It'd be like printing everyone in america a billion dollars.
3. Most admins are politically left. They are pro marxism, pro homosexuality, and get triggered by the slightest joke. So if you make a comment or a political opinion they don't like or agree with. They will simply just wipe your whole base and call you "toxic".
4. The server owner can simply just stop paying and you lose all your stuff.
5. Unofficial has little to no pve player base. If you want to argue with me. Simply order all unofficial servers by players. You will find dozens of official servers 70/70 in a thriving community, but the highest player count you'll ever find on unofficial pve is like 10
But I do share common ground and agree with you about PVP. it's superior on unofficial.
1. The Chinese hackers of official make the game unplayable (i would be banned for racism and wiped on a pve unofficial by some triggered admin for making that FACTUALLY CORRECT statement).
2. On pvp you need an admin or a referee to govern the fairplay of high stakes game like Ark.
3. Pvp official is too easily monopolized by mega tribes.
4. On pvp, no server transfers is good. You don't want some mega tribe spawning in and wiping everyone
I like to enjoy the pvp aspect of the game as without it I feel the game has a short endgame ceiling, unofficial has it's fair share of issues too with admin abuse and uncertainty of the servers staying up and retaining a healthy amount of players to interact with as I lose motivation on the game when there is little to no players to have fun with. Experience I had on unofficial was the community on a server would die off completely after 2 weeks to 1month. Starting again on a new server after just getting well setup playing casually while managing a full time job can be really tiring and demotivating.
If the raiding was like Conan and there were raid times at weekend this game would appeal to so many more people
Too hard/long to grind too quick to loose everything- and to often you won’t even be online when you get wiped
@@FATMAC2How long to build a base like than and that also means many hours/days to defend
thats what dedi servers are for tho... look for purge servers, generally they have weekend PvP and weekdays PvE
I'm not sure if they have them for ASA but on ASE they had official servers with ORP (offline Raid Protection). I think you would enjoy these types of servers.
@@FATMAC2 only bases that take days or longer to raid are mostly alpha tribe or mega tribe bases on official pvp.
Join a big tribe or mega. You won't worry about those things.
The major issue I had with official servers is the "get off of my server mentality. I mean what does a huge tribe have to fear from a solo player in a thatch hut? I call it RPR or Rust Player Rabies. It is spread by being mauled by others that have it and it truly spreads like a disease. Otherwise nice players get infected and start lashing out at anything with a pulse. I'm lucky to have found an unofficial with a good community.
That mentality was in ASE long before Rust.
@@ravage243 Yeah but Rust Is known primarily for it's brutal toxicity. Ark is "that dinosaur game."
its the challenge if extreme revenge... the adrenaline of losing your best raised tames when your fighting. the sentimental loss the game can provide make official pvp the most intense wins and losses ive ever experienced in a game. its not for everyone but I would never take the year and half I have on ark back! and im exited to do it all again on asa!
I suppose all of that is true about PvP games, but most of it wouldn't make sense for PvE. What I don't like about official servers in PvE games is lag kills, and Alpha Dinosaur traps that somehow prevent escape even with a flyer. In ARK SA they have a resurrection option, and no doubt a lot of players know how to use the process to get around "cheat kills", but I don't. I have also noticed it has to be done within 24 hours.
Problem is there's not really good options for unofficial PvP. All the unofficial PvP servers die in one month, always have a big risk of admin abuse, all get tempted into making the rates 20x or something ridiculous, etc. MTS is the only option but that's even sweatier than official servers. Less cheats at least to be fair though.
This is partly true, but finding a good server that has good pop for over a week isnt that hard. The rates are often high but that is probably because people actually like that and lower rates are not a necessity for a good experience.
@@edvinkandenas348and theres people who hate those rates. Now: give an alternative for those people
@@klapsendoc06xd60 Its based on demand if there were that many players that wanted to play servers with other rates more would prob exist
And there is also servers that last longer with lower ish rates and kinda decent pop if look for them
@@edvinkandenas348 yes, but you dont understand this. Theres way more people enjoying lower rates than higher ones. And exactly that is why they play official. Unofficial is simply ark on easy mode for a lot of people and its less rewarding for them. So most play official as the servers dont die off in a week due to how easy and unrewarding they are.
The reason why official(but also games like league, dead by daylight, valorant or a lot of other shooters etc) are so popular is because that they dont pump their players full with rewards over nothing like a lot of unofficial servers in ark do. Sadly the part that makes people addicted to a game is quite literally the annoying, painful sht they go through to reach a goal. Most Unofficial servers only work for big casuals and people that arent a fan of grinding (and therefore quit after a week)
Also these official servers are more toxic bc, well, grinding is annoying and makes white men with no impulse control salty (and because those grinding servers have more people that play more consistently on them)
I played official for about a year and when I found a legit tribe it was fun..... for a while. But then came the meshers, the god mode'rs, and the mega tribes who will raid you for days none stop and roll back servers when they lose anything.
I completely agree with everything you said but I will be playing official pve, the thing I enjoy about official is connecting with people from across multiple servers and I get more satisfaction from official, however I will also be playing unofficial and single player too. But would never play PVP official because they are indeed far too toxic
@@FATMAC2 ngl bro im one of those people who pillar lol, you literally have to or youre eventually going to be confined to some 2 by 2 foundation base on the beach. Imo official PVE is better if ur able to claim ur spot lol plus they dont wipe and ruin all ur progress like unofficial
Pve is garbage tho, ppl block note runs as well they Blick spots off like caves and you cannot even get in because pve, you can't blow ppl stuff up😂😂 maysel just pvp bri
@@jazduh1235so you wanna be a map blocker without ppl being able to fight back, pve is trash because of this lolol, Noone can wipe buildings to get at stuff artifacts n notes blocked, drops blocked what's the point
I played official pve on ASE and you are right….. sort of. I started with the island and looked for a place to build even a small camp so I could cook and sleep. I starved to death before I found any where I could build. There were either huge bases or foundations/pillars preventing any new builds. I tried several servers and after moving to crystal isles I finally found a pve server that not only could I build, but all the players were super helpful and friendly. So good servers exist unfortunately it may take a bit of digging to find them.
Teach, I'm just going to interject by saying that Ark is one of those games that has something for everybody. Whether a large portion of the community prefers unofficial or solo, that doesn't stop every single official server from filling up and staying full to the point of queues, and people aggressively foundation spamming areas of the map so that they don't get cut off or built on top of. There's value in official, that's why you see people selling land on FB, or people selling tames. Everything on official takes work, it's exactly that. Ark official is not a casual experience, no matter how bad you may want it to be. Official is slow, it takes work. All of which creates a recipe for competition. People get mad when they join official and see that the beaches are pillared and foundation spammed, but what they don't realize is a simple counter/bypass to that is simply taming a pteranodon and flying to more central locations of the map. Literally you can leave the beach and find countless build locations. Just don't join an official server that's been active 170+ days and assume that you're going to have first pick of where you want to build. I've been playing for about 200 hours on official and while nitrado servers are dogshit, it's still the same Ark experience I've always loved. Official gives me a since of accomplishment and satisfaction that no private server ever could.
As a PvE player, I enjoy Official. I still have my "day 1" tames and base location(s) from release. It is satisfying to be able to see all of my tribes progression, literally from day 1, no wipes or server deaths. For PvP I 100% agree that unofficial is the best route though.
I never actually tried official PvE but I would love to because singleplayer gets lonely sometimes and I wanna see people and other stuff but what I've heard is that even in PvE people can drown you or destroy your stuff. Is it like that?
@@jacfruit3843 I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, I’ve never seen it or experienced it on any of my servers.
It’s possible to kite a wild giga to anyone’s base if you wanted to, you can also drag bodies so the drowning thing is possible but like I said I’ve never experienced it.
@@HillbillySnake Thank you for the answer. Maybe I give it a shot and try not to grind the shit out of me so I wouldn't get sad if someone destroys it 😂 ty
@@jacfruit3843just sleep on the bed you won’t have to worry about getting drowned lol it’s lesson people teach to those who don’t use the bed as intended lol
@@notquitelikebro Ty for that tip! I tried to play on officials yesterday but after a few servers and 5 hours not finding any place to put down anything because of pillars/foundations everywhere (even in the snow biome), I gave up playing on officials. :/ That was insane.
Big negative thing in unofficial server is that admin can close server anytime and you lose all your progress.
Yup. Single player has none of that.
Either that or they couldn’t pay for it anymore, I have an unofficial server that I’m paying for if you still play this game you’re more than welcome to join. We want people to play on the server.
PvE spam is mainly to block people from killing dino and resource spawns. Nothing worse than going to a resource location just to see someone has built there and killed the spawn. Granted some people go ott with it.
He's blatantly ignoring fact, using a few personal experiences as examples, demonizing a huge park of ark community for his own goal of views, it's wild, and he refuses to elaborate or actually debate this topic.
Yeah because he had a neck beard
Most people who spam aren't doing it for the spawns. Don't kid yourself.
Trust me, that's not why they are doing it.
Some pillars are important so that no one kills off spawns
GCM was on for a couple hours and they wiped the servers and reset them all. But there were numerous dupe bugs, one where crafting stations didnt consume resources and one where you could dupe with a bee hive. Dont get me wrong it was a clusterfuck launch but get it right.
Interesting how he would never respond to this but half of it is wrong or blow to higher proportions and with him complaining about ini I'm pretty sure he did a video of the commands for it so he'll complain about it but happily still profit views for it producing that content directly on the thing he's hating on
7:47
95% of players should heed this advice from Teach. But, I want to share perspective of an official only player.
There’s nothing quite like an official mega tribe server wipe.
Busting into the enemy hatchery with a giga and demolishing months of breeding line work.
Why would you do this!? You monster!
Well it was usually from someone coming to our servers, talking trash and sniping tames/meshing and exploiting. A single troll from a random server can come and ruin weeks of work by themselves. There is never really a sure fire way to determine who exactly did it, so entire servers get wiped for this.
Right now there are no transfers on asa, so there are servers where an “alpha” coexists with other tribes, but these coalition servers are usually the ones that fall first.
They are the ones likely to have trolls that would do the above griefing and get their server targeted.
They don’t have unified goals and access to materials, they can’t login and stop 70 players from filling their server at the drop of a hat.
So this is really why the servers are locked down, some of us are kinda sorry about it, but it is what it is.
For me personally, I both absolutely love this game, but also love that adrenaline rush you get from pvp, and have chased it all the way to where I’ll wager tames I have devoted tons of time to. I’ve built lifelong friendships from this game. There’s been drama and intrigue galore along the way. No different than any other MMORPG community, but we all love THIS game.
So, if you are in that 5% of masochists that enjoy that type of gameplay, keep an eye out for official tribe recruiting on the official discord it does happen, but not often. Once you’re in, it’s like high stakes poker at all times, and there is NOTHING else like it in gaming today.
The best official experience, IMO, were on the 'beginner' servers, where the level was capped at 44 and if you wanted to get to 49, you had to chibi your way there. The servers wiped every couple of months. You had a mix of noobs just starting and experienced players looking for a different experience. Sure, there was some pillar spamming but you could work around it and find actual helpful people to play around and play with. There were plenty of other official PVE servers where the community was actually welcoming and helpful, but that was possible because there were so many maps, so much space and auto-decay as people found other games to play. ASA is a looooong way from that experience!
I was an unofficial player on ase but quit the game because of official players. I got doxxed, sent rape and death threats multiple times and those people called their official friends to seige my base. It was 30 of them vs me and my friend. The server admin recently had set up his server so you could buy dinos and gear, and these 30 ppl were throwing money at the server to harass me so he wasn't incentivized to ban them for their behavior which was against his rules. It got so bad that a few tribes from my server came to help me. The official players were actually really bad at the game, but they had numbers and set up shifts so that my base was under siege 24/7, even while i was asleep and at work. After a week of this I said no more, and I haven't been able to touch Ark until ASA, I was traumatized and couldn't even see the old Ark main menu without having panic attacks. Official players are absolutely horrendous and ruin the game for the rest of us.
Official is the only way to truly enjoy the game, with all the extra boosted/modded unofficial servers, you getting bored so fast everything is too easy
I've never played unofficial never cheated one time ever I love official unofficial is for people who want everything easy
I get it for pvp no one really wants to spend hours a day building up from wood to stone just to get offline raided and do the same thing tomorrow, but for pve official is definitely the best way to go.
@@AaronJohnson-dd3opunofficial is also for people with a lot of real life responsibilities, friends, families, children, or things to do in their day to day lives.
Just play Single player and make your own rules, you can easily keep them the same as the official servers.
Official hardcore servers are actually quite manageable for a solo player or small tribe to survive and thrive on. I've searched for but never found any unofficial hardcore servers. I also don't like the idea of some random dude as an admin who can erase thousands of hours of work at his will just by shutting down the server or kicking me for some unjustified personal reason. Official servers stay there for longer and players have to follow some general rules set by the people who made the game. Unofficial servers are usually also set to much higher rates and the game is made much easier because people are not serious about their gaming life. I'd like the hardest settings possible in the most realistic way as possible with the idea to perhaps stay alive and never die for ten years to come on a server. It's unlikely to reach that goal, but at least it's with that mindset I take on the challenges and prioritize my risk taking.
I fully agree and it’s why I play official. I been playing solo on asa official pvp and so far been having lots of fun. Years of playing ase solo taught me how to hide my base properly and stay incognito around the alpha tribes.. have multiple bases so you don’t lose your progress off of one raiding- it’s stuff like that which I actually enjoy. There’s obviously the toxicity that you have to get past but it’s not too in your face on the sever I play on (2315)
I understand you as playing on non-harcore servers though. I highly dislike all the cheating and limitless toxicity you may encounter on official, but it's not that in your face on hardcore either (but on those non-hardcore servers I've played on). Good for you that you've found a decent server, but I highly recommend to try hardcore if you haven't already. I'm not so much into fighting and trying to have at least one out of many bases unraided. I'm more into making bases that last for long and try to survive as long as possible. It's also fun to do some raids occasionally, but of course without cheating and preferably when people are online.@@jackvolkwyn470
Official means it's a bad in life. I want to know more about what is better in Ark. Then the negative cause official is negative.🎉 There are more better things than ark Like enjoying the game for what it's made for. The game was made for PVE to enjoy life with Dinosaurs, not the opposite.🎉
I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned this but another reason not to play on official servers is your progress is very unlikely to be preserved. All ASE official servers closed, while unofficial servers remained open. The will likely happen again if they decide to make an unreal engine 6 version. Unofficial does depend on the host though, so finding one who just decides not to keep their server running, would be unfortunate if you put a lot of work in.
2000H on official Ark Servrs (pve)solo or 2- 3 man some times. Boss kills, trade,kind people.and its free. So Just a simple NO. Stupid people exist everywhere. 🎉 so dont listen to this Video. 😂And no its Not true on every Server 😂😂. OMG 😂😂
Any one playing pve thinking he is talking about pve as official is lost- but just so you know pve is also toxic with areas being spammed off ect
Not really talking about PVE lol
Also makes a big difference when you're playing 6 years into the games lifespan and there's barely any players vs the launch of the new game. If you don't think most things are pillared off or "claimed" on current PVE servers you're lost.
Completely agree, thanks for summing it up so clearly. I played on Unofficial for most of my Ark time and it was great because if anyone ever did pillar spam or harassing, they were gone. It was there for us all to enjoy. We all shared the server with respect. That's the way it should be.
Im watching all your videos and I am on an official server. Some of your grieving points and raids I get, but after 200 hours on our server we don't get raided anymore and everyone is chill with each other. The good people out lasted the toxic players. Now everyone is working together and leaving stuff for each other. We are building bridges and no longer even fight each other. It's pretty great, but there isn't really a PVE level of crazy building. It's more of a fun competitive nature.
I play Ark with my wife. And we did non-dedicated for the longest and the tether sucks honestly. That’s the reason why we play official. But if anyone knows a good unofficial. I just worry the people running it just may decide to shut it down tomorrow 🤷♂️
Everytime I play official the next day the server is gone not realy sure what is happening
I’ve been watching your videos for some time now and have been subscribed for awhile. But I haven’t commented until now.
I could not agree with you more. Every word from your mouth is truth. Thank you for your videos teach, love them all. Good luck on your 100k, you deserve it!
My lvl 105 character was on an Oceanic Small Tribes server and just got back from a break to find the entire server was deleted from inactivity. Nothing online seems to mention this at all so I'm assuming my character has been permanently deleted along with the server...
I hate when people play ark FOR THE FIRST TIME and they do it on OFFICIAL SERVERS, then they go on to say ark is trash based on that experience. 🤦♂ Ark should only be played on private servers with friends or singleplayer, official is a trap that sucks the fun out of any casual player or noob that joins it.
The thing that bothers me the most is how hard it is to download mods on the ps5 at least the server will ask for example 200mb to join the server then u start downloading the mods and it downloads 800mb and it doesnt stop just keeps going and u never join the server no matter how many times i try to download it at some point it just stops downloading completely
I tried over years to run solo on official server. I was able to run some bosses but i couldnt run them all over the past 6years. Sounds crazy to not complete a game after all these years. But i love to have this goal
Official PvP just isn't designed to be played as a solo though it can be done but this is why they came out with small tribes.
Same, all because of the community.
Official pve is a test of patience and mental endurance. And wildcard does wipe tribes that spam, but you just have to have like I said patience. I played official pve on my ps4 for over a year and loved it, and the community. But you definitely have to get yourself a piece of land and find a server with a good community, where the mega tribes work together to squeeze out the trolls and Pilar control building on resources and poi’s
If the majority of your viewers are non official players then your voting will reflect that that does not mean that the statistics are accurate. There are also more officials than just the mega tribe officials I think right now we just have small tribes but like ASE we should eventually be getting ark poc crossarks and maybe more. There are toxic people everywhere not just official. A lot of players on official are not toxic and just enjoy the game and working together. They are just not as loud on social media as the toxic players.
A few negative points you left out for official mega tribe servers: When server transfers start
Chinese Mega tribes and maybe non Chinese mega tribes will invade a server by capping it and keeping it blocked until they have clapped the main tribe or tribes on that server
If they start losing they will ddos the server
They will have aimbotters and they will mesh where possible.
Pocket devs will protect and sometimes assist their favorite mega tribes
This is from the ASE experience anyway we will see when server transfers open.
Right now there are a lot of players trying to lock down their servers in hopes of actually competing against the mega tribes. A lot of players also ducked out due to the servers constantly going down staying down for a while then coming back up rolled back and progress lost.
If you are solo or a small tribe Mega tribe officials is not a great place to be.
The real problem is rmt. It’s always been a problem and if wildcard wanted to stop the toxic behaviors and the spamming on pve servers, wildcard just needs to remove the ability to “unclaim” Dino’s and trading. Even in pvp with cryopods destroying bases shouldn’t be a gain of others Dino’s. It broke the game more.
Me and my buddy’s are on an official PVE server right now and it’s a horrible the ping has never dropped below 150 and and people with these mega builds are a huge issue and trying to find a decent spot to build a house. Either on the beach or in the mountain tops is a pain in the ass because they have the foundations or pillars. And if you fly over any of the homes or anything, it gets really laggy, especially on console because it’s having a hard time trying to keep up with everybody’s shit.
The problem with unofficial is mods add convenience, once you dip your toes in the water with convenience it's hard not to just dive in, easier stacking? Better building? Convenience and utility items? Better and new Dinos? Maybe up the server settings? Faster tame/breeding? Higher resource yield? Just command give items? Spawn in Dinos? God mode complete the tek cave without damage?
It's an easy rabbit hole, it's so much more gratifying to complete the game with no access to the above, and to see others building up around you. I'm on official now, have been for weeks, and there's a TON of claimable land still. Sure the starter areas have been BUSY, yes, and the server stability is sloooowly getting better. But at least it's a complete game, and convenience isn't threatening to ruin the experience.
I love how hard official feels. The authentic earlygame gameplay, how fast you can lose everything. The feeling of randomly finding a body of an alpha tribe person with cracked loot, that its way harder to farm or to make progress(this makes it more rewarding for me, i dont like tek) and suprisingly i do like that a run of official often ends after a week bc u got raided. Sadly things that i never got to experienceon unofficial even after countless hours of searching and trying out. Even tho i dont have a problem with toxic things like notruns being blocked (more challenging and i like that) i agree that the official community is way too toxic
I do not organize my life around official we have a big enough tribe to touch grass
@TeachersGameToo to be fair I've been told the same thing about having to be toxic, or having to join a mega tribe. On ASE official I formed a pretty wholesome tribe that only grew and grew and we became an alpha tribe on our server. We were good to everyone except for those raided off server lol. We were the most toxic to each other (in party jokes 😭). We helped many people in the game. And manage to get the platinum in official PVp. We all welcome the challenge.
Im an Ark vet that took a long break. i now want to try to teach my wife and 13 year old son. you think i can join your server? im located in USA west
@@ItsMulThaiMedia you could join me no problem, but we're at a ruff start until servers open this year. You sound wholesome. I like wholesome
@@Choutsu are you playing ASA or ASE right now? I just got ASA.
pros of official
-free
-many people to meet/trade with
-default ark experience of pain and suffering
-very rewarding for enduring said "pain and suffering"
cons
-42/70 players "session full"
-crashes every 2 hours with a 30min-1hour roll back
-some players are bungholes
-my god getting 2 berries a bush or only 1 prime meat from 30 baby penguins
Thats why oficial servers ia enpty during no 2x event
My first experience on a low population (5-7 players online in average) official PvP server:
Building a small wooden cabin, one day later it got completely destroyed by a guy with a wyvern or however that creature is called.
First experience on a official pve server:
Logged in, metal foundations and cryofridges on the beach everywhere. Completely destroyed the beauty and atmosphere of the game for me.
Experience with community servers:
Mostly X5, X15 or even higher rates. I literally couldn’t find any community server with default harvesting / XP rates.
So as it seems, I am forced to keep playing singleplayer…
But what happens when someone decides to shutdown their server and your like many that collect all the event dinos?
I have about 3000hrs in Ark and about 100 now in ASA. The problem is the way they sell official servers vs. unoffical. They make it look like official servers are the way to play Ark but it is not. It's is only a small group of adhd kiddy fortnite style players that need that certain adrenalin kick. It always has been like this, it was the same with "old" Ark that PVP is what they wanna push and think people wanna play. But actually for all people I know Ark is an exploration in PVE and to play the game they way it is supposed to look like, the beauty, adventure, the experience and the fascination about dinosaurs (and fantasy creatures when you play other maps than the island). And PVE is incredibly hard and time consuming when you use the out-of-the-box config settings, it is impossible to see the full game for the average small tribe. But even getting access to PVE unoffical multiplayer as a person with little tech knowhow is hard. You can only play this game solo unless you have somebody who know stuff and who invites you to a private server or helps you set up and maintain a local dedicated server if you have a good pc to spare. Just hiding unoffical servers behind this tiny button in the main menu and warning you that this is not the way to play Ark is ridiculous.
So a solution for me would be to seperate and advertise both styles equally in the main menu and make it easier to run private servers by offering a proper server management tool with a nice GUI for .ini tuning explaining all the hundrets of tweaks better (kinda what ASM did for old Ark but built-in) with presets for easy/medium/hard and balance and explaining those nicely. So stuff like benchmarking and speed running would be possible and comparable too.
As much as I 100% agree with you after 5 years on official- I kinda miss the ark experience- btw you can play official and not be toxic yourself but it is deffo a full time job
Appreciate the honesty
Last time i played official I found a house that actually lasted about 3 months with no turrets just a stone house, but it had a sign that said "i have a job and kids i cant play much please dont raid" and it actually got him surviving for ages
I’ve been playing this game for years and never once have I fought a boss. Always played as a survival/building game with the boys. I love it.
These problems probably due exist in Ark but I have been on PVE official 5409 since launch day without these issues now moving onwards towards day 300. Reason pillars are put in place to protect resource spawns, pathways, and beach access in spawning zones, plus if a player quiets after few days his thatch or wood foundation will be gone. If you want to build a massive base move inland where you will have free reign to build your 100x100 mega structure not clog path where newbies are trying to spawn, and players are trying to move freely.
I have 150 of every kibble type, my character is level 90, I have lvl 220 babies growing in my base. I am a solo player. I am approaching about 15 therizinosaurus several 150 wild tamed with kibble. I personally play for long haul and when Scorched Earth drops I will more than likely be moving there until Ragnarok comes out. Official servers are hard as you make them and if you must reach end game, now now now, and you want it all, and you want it now? Well, official servers are probably not for you. Officials require patience and yes, the downside would be the lag but I have met some really cool folks on officials usually it's a bustling trade and social experience etc. because things are just worth a lot more due to everything taking time, commitment, willingness to just have patience because you're playing with 70/70 every night and tribes of many different sizes and flavors.
That's just my thoughts but if you want to play unofficial, try it, just be warned all things mentioned in video game be seen in unofficial because the admins have all the power to do with their server and play as they wish... and when they're tired whose stopping them from quitting and no longer keeping the server maintained, i.e free from cheaters, and more importantly keeping the server online.
On ASE I played single player, unofficial PvP with boosted everything, official PvE and official PvP. And while yes the official PvP community can be toxic, it’s also the most rewarding. Me and some buddies created Some of the best gaming memories from those servers. Raiding or defending your base with everything on the line creates a sense of exhilaration that is unmatched by ANY game. Trust, betrayal, politics, toxicity, manipulation all are required to be successful in PvP. Joined a server once where we started on a raft we’d hide in the ocean, then built a hidden base where we crafted all the parts to a bigger base off the side of The Center map (easily defendable) made friends aling the journey. We worked together to wipe the toxic alphas and then got bored and went to war with the guys we had been working with since the beginning. Yes obviously a lot of hurt people and a lot of lost stuff but absolutely worth the struggle to get there.
I agree with what you say but there are pros and cons to both official and unofficial. Problem with joining unofficial is the admins might decide to close the server down when they get bored of playing, a mod might need updating and prevent you joining, lots of mods cause problems, they can conflict with each other and break. Some unofficial servers are ghost towns, I like playing and seeing people online. The event items will disappear in unofficial once the event is over, they don’t on official. Sometimes you get toxic admins on unofficial who restrict your game play with their rules, or you have players complaining to the admins if your break a rule you were unaware of. A lot of unofficial servers restrict your building size and locations. I like the freedom of official, I can do what I want without having to clear it with server admins.
I can't say that you're wrong because you're almost 100% right about everything except the part where you said on every official PVP server they're trying to force you out. I've been playing for about 3 weeks now and honestly I think out of the 10 or so servers I went through before finding a server that I found comfortable only 1 of them had someone actively trying to lag the server and it was for like 20 minutes because someone annoyed him. nobody wants to waste their whole day lagging a server... not only is it boring but that would also effect HIS tribe. I am pretty sure if you're experiencing lag constantly that might just be your PC struggling to load probably some tribe with an absurd amount of dinos. that's something you'll experience on any server.
OMG there is a spanish youtuber that makes his own servers and has every season its own story RP and almost any follower can join at least when i used to watch him play.
he had also rules for the pvp like not killing creatures if they are in passive and they dont block base parts with weaknesses in the base it was so cool seeing them taking care of people that break rules by raiding them normaly without useing admin power till they cant play anymore cause usually thats what such people did
On official, I just lost a good lvl rockdrake with 5 traits on it, It fell through the mesh and no way to contact Wildcard due to high ticket volume.
I've played official since scorched earth. I nearly quit after some people griefed me but I was a hard beach bob at that point. I persisted and made a good base and enjoyed my time there. As time went on and new maps came out I saw assholes and met great friends. It's been and will likely continue to be a great and terrible time and I wouldn't trade it for anything. I always have told people you have to admit to a certain level of masochism to enjoy ark. Caee in point, I once played a 24 hour session at 255 ping the whole day cause I wanted to play more than that bothered me. Am I insane for that? Probably but the community, both good and bad, is what I enjoy about it and official gives me that. I've seen and felt the pain of pretty much everything you described but I persisted and survived. I may do unofficial to play modded ark with friends but official will remain my home.
The anonymity of the internet has highlighted the depravity and wickedness in games. If a street address were tied to every IP address there would be a lot less toxic digital community.
Nothing but facts. When I switch to unofficial I started having way more fun
Online is garbage no matter where you play. Official PvE has pillar idiots, Official PvP nothing more needs to be said. Unofficial servers have facist admins and griefers who cheat, the rates are stupid and they have truckloads of annoying mods, if you host a server with friends, then eventually they get bored and stop paying and you lose all your work that you put in. Single player is the best and where it's at. No need to pay greedy server companies, YOU get to choose the rates, YOU get to choose the mods, all maps are accessible, if you decide to stop playing a month or even a year, everything will still be there when you last left it. Single player Ark is and will always be superior.
Often in unofficial clusters, admins build community centers where people can gather, craft, trade, throw away unwanted stuffs for other players to get, events, minigames, etc...
When ASA released i spend 3 days trying to play official pve, there was lag, server being full, rollbacks, not being able to conect, pillar and foudation spam, it was so horrible i nearly quit the game but thankfully i found some good unofficial private pve server and im still playing there sinc release.
Yeah, I figured Official would be taxic. Just wait until other maps come out. They will move on. I 100% agree with you on the PVE thing. I don't understand why people can't just play together.
Really wanted to get back into ASA after Scorched Earth came out, just joined a PvE official server since I didn't feel like wasting my life away on PvP again, I know I'm late, but not *that* late, yet I cannot find a single decent spot to build on officials.
PvE players have completely blocked off *all* oil rig locations, *all* metal spawn locations, *all* build spot locations, I'm literally camped up at a water well next to a spawn location.
Now I *have* looked through other servers, but I'm not a fan of server hopping constantly, don't have the time or energy to do that anymore, I went through 3 different servers, all of which are the same, mostly everything is already locked down with stone foundations w/ ladders. I want to enjoy official servers because of the large player base on them, but imma just take my leave over to an unofficial server...
Yh official pvp doesn’t seem worth playing but if you want the proper experience official pve isn’t that bad but there still is toxic people
What was the mod where you turned into a rex?
This! Need this! :)
So for those of us playing solo, are we on official servers and how can we use an unofficial server to stop turning down every setting we can find to the point that it looks like ASE to make stop crashing?
I have 214 days in ark survival evolved and I can't find a place to build, last night I realized the 3rd server I've tried has the tame limit met already
as a official pve server player, i will tell you guys that people foundation spam the entire beach, every square inch. you always have 100-255pings. it crashes every 1 hour and rollbacks 30 mins so its basically impossible to get anything done. every time the server crashes it resets decay timers so all those thatch foundations will never decay. theres so little servers with so many players so youll get your spot taken if your game crashes. dino ai SUCKS, every time you shoot a crossbow it doesnt hit 50% of its hits, and takes 10 seconds to reload each time. you WILL mesh and lose everything in your inv, doesnt matter how good you are it will happen. theres so many things that are messed up and ruined.
the only good thing about offical is you have tons of other people to help you out.
100% agree. I'm new ark player (1 month). I was playing on official pvp server for a week or so and it was no fun at all. People just killling your tames even if you didn't attack them and raiding bases almost every day/night when I was offline. No point wasting my time anymore and starting again from basically zero every 2 days...
What's up👋, I was thinking about playing this game but before I did, I happened to stumble upon your video, and big shout out to you because it was very informative. You actually helped me decide if I'll play it or not...and if I do, I know the exact way to go. Preciate'cha😂
I enjoy the suspense of early game in official pvp and being sneaky on a server until I eventually work my way to the top, but at the top is the worst, it feels like a chore to do most things end game just to maintain things, and yes toxicity is rampant and I wish it didn't exist however beating out those people is what drives me to make it to the top, every time I've ever became the top guy in a server I'd end up giving it all away to a bob because I've beat the server in my book.
I’ll be honest man the biggest issue for me wirh ark offical PVP was me having a really good base setup for the island (could compete with the alpha) and then a alpha from extinction or somewhere with insane hesr would transfer over and completely wipe us
i agree that official is unplayable rn, but unofficial is probably worse.... i have played twice on unofficial servs, first time the person stopped playing and server was taken down, so i lost all progress instantly with no warning... second time i found a spot at hidden lake and the server owner decided he wanted to build there and told me i had a week to relocate or he would ban me,,,, 2 days later without warning he banned me anyway even though i still had 5 days left in his mind to move from a spot that he "owned".... unofficial is a waste unless it is your own server because you never know who is gonna ban you or wipe your progress for no reason..... video should be "why you should never play unofficial" (unless you are buying your own server)
What mod are you using that allows you to stack foundations @ 8:40? I know my husband would kill for that on our private server. 😆
The pillaring areas is very frustrating on official PvE. Or the gates that block beaches and rivers so you need a flyer just to get around is hella annoying. However I think majority of official PvE isn’t as toxic as PvP. And it’s very unappealing watching PvP videos looking like there playing on Nintendo 64.
Actually the only problem with PVE officiall players are not those pillaring important zones but players who dont understand that there is 50 or more peaople that want to have acces to resources dinos and build base. Pillaring important places is required to prevent some " Bob " blocking resource spawns. And on official you need to comunicate with others cause you are not alone and if you are nice and willing to cooperate with the rest of server they will help you start and show you place where you can start building without bothering rest. Toxic players exist on PvE sure but are scarce and shunned by the rest of server comunity.
I really want (and yeah I know this will be unpopular), official premium servers that you can only access with a subscription. The sub pays for mods to actively monitor and remove players causing problems. Rules like no pillar/foundation spamming can be setup as meta rules that the moderators can enforce. Cheats can be perma banned via their steam account just on the premium servers since they don't want to ban cheats from official regular servers.
even if a mod flies round a server twice a day for an hour it would have a massive impact on the game.
I know this sounds like an unofficial server and it mostly is except for the part where the mod/admin on unofficial gets upset that he's been raided and just starts spawning stuff in or shuts down the server.
I used to play on official, and yes there are always people that do all those things. My fiance and I were mostly allowed to build what was needed to enjoy the game, BUT!!!, I couldn't deal with the having to be on daily or risk dinos dying or structure decay timers. Sure we could have joined a large tribe, but the risk of losing stuff you put a lot of time into is also great with inner tribe drama. Or how about structures just disappearing days before their timers were up or servers go down when raising babies that needed care/feeding?? We did make game friends and it was cool to trade with people or show off cool builds. But you can do that on unofficial servers too.
I think a better way to put it is only play official if you’re in a large tribe. At least 10-15 members. If your tribe is able to take over an entire server your tribe is free to do whatever you want on that map all day everyday.