when you "resurrect" a dead guy for a cheap cameo
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“Hey, it may be a corpse, but that doesn’t mean we can’t make any money off of it.” -some WB executive.
"Hey you may be a corpse but that doesnt mean you get to be free from us "
student debts in a nutshell
This is a certified FNaF moment
the "don't listen to my family" did it for me
Reminds me how the studio tried to chemically castrate Robin because like 4 parents kept complaining about his bulge in the Adam west show
Good times
No butts were destroyed in the making of this video.
Oh my god, I haven't laughed that hard in awhile.
Why did this movie feel like every superhero movie ever?
I was more of a Butt Destroyer 2 guy, the remake didn't have the same depth
😂😂😂 get out
Thanks The Force Awakens...
Lol 12 more tickets
The flash really lived up to its name because after they used cgi to bring a dead guy back to life, my respect and interest in the film disappeared in a flash
Who? I don't watch the film and I don't intend on watching it anyway
not the fact Ezra Miller is a creepy kidnapping cult celebrity?
@@freetousebyjtc I want to know too
yeah me too
@@freetousebyjtc christopher reeve
Hollywood really hasn’t changed in decades. Rest in peace, George Reeves, you’re better than all of this
@@rileyscherer129and George Reeves, and Adam West
What's worse is the movie released on the anniversary of George Reeves death
@@rileyscherer129they brought them both back, and it’s worse for George because the movie released on the day he killed himself
@@Plumtopia oh seriously? I haven't seen the movie but I knew Christopher reeves was announced as one of the cameos. Whoops
@@sandwichmosley4885 my mistake. I'll delete my comment. That's actually terrible
The George Reeve one made my jaw hit the floor. The original Superman only known because he killed himself/ was murdered? Oh my god that's beyond poor taste.
amazed how you accurately recreated man carrying thing for this video when he died this morning
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Man corpsing thing
Corpse carrying thing**
At first I was wondering why the movie still exists after Ezra Miller's crimes. But I realize they're the same people who do this shit and now it makes sense.
So glad the movie is bombing😊
Lol, you care so much about minor crap that Ezra did.
Funny that you don't care about Roman Polanski who raped a 13 year old child in the ass, and fled to France where he still lives with zero consequences.
So many actors who've done much worse, but of course your hatred is reserved for the trans actor..........
It’s so insane too. A woman has One Bad Opinion and she gets fired from a show named after her (no crime mind you, didn’t actually hurt anyone, just said something stupid). Ezra Miller throws chairs at people and grooms kids but he’s got a dick so he gets to keep working even though everyone would rather see Grant Gustin in his role anyway because we love the character not the actor 😅
@@mommalion7028which show are you talking about?
@@chaosenforcerdhm969 I believe he's referencing Gina Carano from "The Mandolorian." I might be wrong though...
"it's not about the destination, it's about the cash we make along the way"
- every single studio ever
“And the amount of literal rights getting stomped on as well!”
"...and the friends we lose along the way."
The Flash cameos consists of: a character from a movie that was never made, a character from a movie everyone hates, a character from a movie no one saw and an actually beloved character
pls tell me who's who, I don't want to see the movie
the movie which no one saw is?
@@Darthvader468 same here
Pls need to know the cameos, I'm never going to watch this movie
@@Darthvader468 Character from a movie that was never made: Nicolas Cage as Superman.
Character from a movie everyone hates: George Clooney as Bruce Wayne
Character from a movie nobody watched: Helen Slater as Supergirl I guess?
Beloved character: Christopher Reeve as Superman
“You know that dead actor who they brought back in The Flash through CGI?”
“Which one?”
Christopher Reeve, Adam West and George Reeves.
Still better than the actual cgi in the flash
for real tho, the face in this video looks better detailed than the ones in the movie, even for the ones who are still alive, like Nicholas Cage
I don't plan on seeing the movie. Who did they bring back?
yEaH bUt tHe DiReCtoR sAiD iT wAs iNtenTiOnAl
@@repapeti98 George Reeves and Christopher Reeve
@@repapeti98 George Reeve, Christopher Reeves, Eartha Kitt, César Romero, Adam West
I love the "his family signed off on it!" argument because everyone totally has good relationships with their families and Harold Ramis would totally love his character turning into a washed up hermit who was stripped of all his accomplishment and decided to stalk his daughter and grandchildren for years instead of, you know, calling them on a cell phone.
But it's fine because a studio dropped a bunch of money at his estate's doorstep and asked them for permission.
Finally someone who sees it that way
I don’t understand, honestly if they asked the people who would probably have issue with them doing that if it was fine and they said it was, then I really don’t understand why you’re offended on their behalf. I think this whole things a little more nuanced then you think it is.
@@keeganhooker8448
It's because the person that would have massive issues with it, and would have required more money than exists in the known universe to be in the movie, is dead and can't be asked.
@@Carabas72 This is why they ask the family for permission. You all are so narrow minded, you think this whole thing is black and white, we’re entering a future with ai and cgi that can do a lot of things for media, and people are so fixated on their opinions whether something is right or wrong they don’t even think about the inbetween, the nuance, when something is right and wrong, in my eyes as long as the family signs off on it and approves of it then it’s fine, you’re right that we can’t ask the dead guy but that’s what their family is there for, to be their voice, if they don’t then no. You can try to invalidate my argument all you want but in the end of the day you’re the one offended when the family itself doesn’t care, if they do care they need to come out and say something and sue them to get rich or richer, then you can be offended for them.
I mean. He’s dead.
He doesn’t care any more.
He’s feeling or pride cannot be hurt, neither he will be thinking about his image.
As long as his family is the image of once who alive is untouched, or as long as they are fine with it.. It’s literally not a problem
Didn't expect the studio exec to be the voice of ethics and the artist to be the one without scruples. Man Carrying Thing expertly subverting my expectations once again.
In fairness, they’re both unethical, the exec’s just a bit more subtle
Nobody talks about the sensible executive, so people think it doesn't exist.
This is why Plankton Farts & Dies is better, they didn’t have to CGI Plankton into it
(real)
i have never been this early to witness a man carrying something
Same here
Same
I often told myself, "AI will have officially gone too far the day they fully resurrect a long-dead actor for cheap 'Member Berries'". Then I remembered they did that to poor Peter Cushing seven years ago :/
There should be an law for the protection of dead people’s dignity or something. Nobody wants bad CGI of dead actors. It’s creepy as hell.
To be fair Tarkin wasn’t meant as a “member berries” character, he was actually pretty important in the story
@@oXRaptorzXo That's fair, but it was still a very creepy effect.
@@AlexG-jk8tc a little yeah, but I’ve gotten pretty used to it, the cgi isn’t bad
@@norwegianboyee Why is CGI bad but 2D animation, live actors recreating their look, and biopics that can misrepresent their life okay? We already have laws about depicting someone's life with life-rights agreements.
Even worse, they already had Brandon Routh play the same character. They could've just brought him in, but *insisted* on making a CGI zombie
bro, seeing routh again (again) would've been so cool, or hell, they could've done a grant gustin or john wesley shipp cameo, and hell, even using a still image of george would be better, but they just had to make a cgi monster version of him.
@Twokaizer del Sur why bring Grant Gustin or any of the othe rbeloved actors when you can summon a ghost and bring back the actor who is considered the worst Batman even by Clooney himself (who i'm kind of surprised accepted this but i guess he needed money for his coffee)
Zazlav is an old money boomer. Vapid nostalgia is how they roll.
To be fair, Nicholas Cage is alive yet they CGI'd him.
When you want to be a necromancer, but your parents want you to show them that Degree in Film was worth it.
Omg bro hi haven’t been seeing you around much lately
The only unrealistic part is how the exec was reluctant. Asking if something is ethical? Caring about someone’s last wishes? Getting hung up over quality? Rich people would never.
They do care!
Because they want to avoid a lawsuit.
Still can’t get over Henry being fired for not showing up for something……but Ezra living on a cult farm with minors, grooming victims and a ton of guns is just fine?
The Flash movie was made way before the whole controversy. Nobody said he would stay,this is more unlikely now with the bomb with the movie in the box office.
@@guto5285 the director said he would stay as long as he had a say in it
@@train123z your point? The director of movie( if that what you mean) dosen't have any power over this.
it’s the “it” factor. these studio execs don’t give a fuck about ethics
It's kind of an accomplishment for the Flash to START by billing a sex pest and then CONTINUE to lose any possible remaining respect after that.
They really went the creepy CGI resurrection route instead of calling Brandon Routh.
Flashbacks from the cgi lip of Henry Cavill start hitting...
"William Butt" is the type of character you would see in GTA parody world
If you think about it there might just be one in RDR2.
William Butt was the mayor of Atlanta, Georgia in 1854-1855
and also probably the identity of a torso that was found in a river in 1938
And an English cellist
BRO HOW ARE YOU EVERYWHERE
Quick reminder that they LITTERALLY have already a perfect recast of Reeve in BRANDON ROUTH, he's currently open to return anytime they want & YET THEY CASTED THE SUPERMAN FROM THE 64 GAME INSTEAD
Love that they had this golden opportunity to show off their rich history of characters across the decades…and then they realised that they literally only have Batman and Superman in that history.
That's not what the movie was about, it wasn't a movie about showing off their rich history, but if they did they'd have more than just Batman and Superman. Keanu Reeves Constantine, Lynda Carter Wonder Woman, various Swamp Things, I could go into all the DCEU characters which are varied and rich, but that would be giving your argument too much credibility, the fact is Marvel films don't have as much of a rich history across as DC did, Marvel movies started being good in the 90's with Blade, DC movies started being good in the 60's with Batman, and perhaps even earlier for George Reeves version (didn't actually hear if those were good or not) we also have Steel(not good, but important) Jonah Hex(also not good) the Green Lantern movie(underrated, it's not a masterpiece, but it didn't have any glaring flaws to me, it's just an average movie.) V from V for Vendetta, the Watchmen, although those last two are disconnected from the DC universe. If we brought in more tv show characters than we'd have all the Arrowverse characters, an old Shazam, an old flash from the 90's, Titans and Doom Patrol, and don't even get me started on animated.
That's not true, especially with the Flash, they literally have potentially enough cast related to Flash Live Action media, but they kust choose to not, in a fking Flash Movie
They literally had Henry Cavill, Brandon Routh and they still went with Christopher Reeves and Nicolas Cage
They fired Cavil, and had the whole plot of the movie revolve around time traveling to Man of Steel. Smh. And Cavil technically got two cameos…without consent of his name, image, and likeness.
Even worse : a CGI'd Nicholas Cage. Like... he's still alive you know...
That "oh noooo' was the perfect amount of surprise and indifference.
I’m glad to see the return of the orange border thumbnails
The red border thumbnail era really got to me and sent my life into a downward spiral, but maybe now that the orange borders are back I feel as though Debra might finally give me a second chance
Thank you, Man Carrying Thing, you’ll be forever in my heart
hey dude its been a year how are things with you and debra
The crazy thing is I had been spoiled about this the day after the film came out. My brother tried convinceing me to go and watch the flash, by telling me about all the "tributes," that happened towards the end. He told me Id love seeing all the different Supermen over the decades since I'm such a big fan of that character. I then had to tell him about George Reeves and why that was actually a horrible way to "honor," him, since we all know how much pain that role caused him.
“Am I really gonna defile this grave for money? Of course I am!”
-Every Studio
A precursor to all this was when the actor Peter Sellers died, the movie The Trail of the Pink Panther was made afterwards stringing together outtakes and deleted scenes for his character and one time using a guy in a bandage, even though before he died he said he didn’t want outtakes to be used.
“12 tickets? Id have dug up his corpse and put him on mannequin wires for 12 dollars!” - studio exec
after seeing the flash and seeing those awful soulless cgi recreations of certain people..im now pretty sure that studios executives' veins dont run red with blood but with sludge and slime.
One cannot possibly trust anyone more with the fate of the Butt Destroyer franchise than the intern with the pants T-shirt.
Honestly the thing that stands out to me the most beyond the ethics or horrid CGI is the fact that moment completely undercuts the film’s narrative. WB you’re telling me to accept things and move on when you’re doing a cameo fest of the past even among corpses.
This video in a nutshell:
“Are we really gonna dig up this grave for money?”
“Of course, we are!”
The easiest solution would have just been to CGI Routh if youre THAT desperate. I would have loved to see the Atom again
WB: “Am I really gonna defile this grave for money? Of course I am!”
i loved it when the vfx guy said its ressureting time and ressurected the dead guy who is rolling in his grave right now
Truly one of the moments of all time! 🥲
Honestly, had me crying in my seat
To go from watching the vid. thinking "yeah, yeah someone is bound to do this soon enough" to realizing from the comment section that someone just did ... sure is a great feeling. 🙃
Ford did it years ago with the Puma and featuring Steve McQueen.
Remember how when an actor died in-between installments, their character either died in the series as well or was recast?
What happened to that?
It turns out the thing the man is carrying is morality.
Stan Lee watching from Heaven if it's ever decided to deepfake him back to life: Don't make me come down there, you punks!
I can't imagine what they would have done to sell 13 more tickets.
wait you mean BEYOND the 13 FURTHER tickets they A L R E A D Y sold?!
buddy i don't wanna have the imagination required to fathom the kinds of shenanigans they would've had to get up to to manage that. 🤯
I get what The Flash was TRYING to do by showing how all the previous versions of DC characters are long-lasting and worth celebrating forever. It was also cool seeing Reeve alongside Helen Slater’s Supergirl because we never got to see them share the screen together. However, while I can look past the wonky CGI in most instances because Muschietti’s direction is lively, it feels kinda icky with Christopher Reeve because it looks so uncanny. It’s clear in that instance that his Superman is just a puppet and it’s odd. If they utilized archived footage or just a still like for George Reeves and Adam West it would’ve felt less wrong because it’s basically a picture. It only really works well for Nic Cage’s Superman because he’s still alive and it was fantastic getting to peak into a movie that could’ve been.
Edit: I just watched Filmspeak’s review of The Flash (which was very well made) and he made a take on the CGI cameos that made me think of them differently and makes it feel smarter and purposefully weird. He proposed that The Flash is an anti-nostalgia story, which utilizes things from the past to show why trying to revive dead things only leads to bad things. He said it made him feel gross, but it might’ve meant to because the whole movie is saying that trying to relive the past is a BAD thing. Keaton’s in the film, sure, but he is destined to DIE as a result of Barry’s nostalgia clouding his logic. I think there’s basis for it too, because during that scene, we see that every universe has a Flash who ends up destroying it. Sure we see Reeve and Slater, West, Reeves, and Cage, but the tone of the scene is intense and dark and it ends in their worlds colliding and crumbling. Barry’s desire to relive the past and destroying all the worlds is indicative of how movies have been trying to “resurrect” so many films, characters, franchises, actors, etc. I’ll have to watch it again under this new lense, but that is honestly plausible.
yeah, I kind of like the deep cut of george reeves superman and also showing him with his own jay garrick but just use a still image of him from that time, not only would it look less uncanny and be cheaper, but also less disrespectful. Also why couldn't they do a grant gustin or john shipp cameo instead, you know, the other 2 most famous flash actors who are still alive.
The peek into superman lives was cool, but honestly they could've done something much cooler by making him apart of the flashpoint timeline with keaton, with the actual cage, especially since both moves would've been directed by burton
Edit: An even better basis for that interpretation is how batman seems to be a known, mythological figure in the flashpoint timeline, so flashpoint barry doesn't want to let his bruce go, constantly reliving the "epic-ness" of their team up.
That's exactly how I felt
Why would a picture/reused film be more respectful than CGI? Would a photo realistic drawing of him in the background of a scene be disrespectful to him to have as an Easter egg?
@@stanleydude3340 It would’ve been more respectful because it’s an existing photo of him, not making him into a CG puppet (like they did with Adam West, he was just an image and it was cool)
@@mr.moviemafia are drawings of him disrespectful? And if not- what's the difference between that and CGI? What if this super man showed up in an animated movie- would that be disrespectful or would it be fine since everyone's animated anyways
Well it was his fault really, he decided to star in a franchise called "Butt Destroyer" while his name was Butt, what did he expect
And it was the anniversary of George Reeves's death too. Fun movie but that was ghoulish
wait, they're putting *multiple* dead people in it?
it's one thing if an actor dies mid movie and they have to finish scenes or whatever. they signed to be in the movie, and they know some cgi will be involved anyway.
but maybe you shouldn't be expected to essentially have your corpse puppeteered years after you die in movies you never knew would exist.
I shocked they went with the cameo dead guy who committed suicide on the day of his death instead of, you know, any other flash actor or hell, even the first guy to play superman, kirk alyn or even used a still image. Literally why would you do this cameo specifically?
They could use Grant Gustin or the Flash from 90s but no, the only cameo related to The Flash is a guy who played a villain who was pretending to be a Flash
@@reitakanashi532 legit, seeing GG and 90s flash on the big screen would've been sick, but apparently they "couldn't make the cut".
WB: What if the Flash movie is even more off putting?
The only thing that can revitalize interest in the frankly dying Man Carrying Thing -franchise, is if they somehow got the recently deceased (and STAR!) of the Man Carrying franchise, Chirstopher A. Thing to appear for a heart smelting cameo... Now that'd make me watch 12 more times!
"This movie makes you feel like choking someone in Hawaii. The Flash gets a 7/10. Not enough flashing"
~IGN probably
that was the greatest bad cgi i have EVER seen
"Oh cool I wonder who the actor of this cameo is, oh he passed away? ....... oh...... ooh....." - A real thing that happened many times because of this "genius" decision
what’s concerning is that there are multiple actors being brought up as examples in the comments …. the fact that it is so common is disgusting
So glad to see they're finally doing a Chuck Tingle Cinematic Universe starting with Butt Destroyer
The cgi was breathtaking. What a turning point for your production quality!
If this doesn’t win the Oscar for best visual effects then I’ve got some serious beef with the academy
I wish there was a law like "a person,their image/likehood and their intellectual creations can only be used to train or be replicated by artificial intelligence if they give their explicit written consent to it,going by a case by case basis(i.e. agreeing to each individual piece of media it appears on),with a deceased individual not being elligible for it" or something of the sort
Innacurate; the investor-guy unironically asked if it's ethical. In reality they don't give a shit about ethics
It was a very odd choice to make all those cameos like "non life like". Kind of like they thought "well, it's not like we're pretending Christopher Reeves is alive. So, people won't be mad". But it just looks bizarre, out of place with the whole movie
I hear they were really nice to Carrie Fisher's CGI version. They didn't tell it that it needed to lose weight
It seems not even the dead knows the escape from this soul sucking evil industry.
The George reeves one is especially disrespectful considering how the man ended his life due to superman. He was being typecasted as superman and wasn’t able to find any other work so WB bringing him back like this was super insulting. Once again WB being WB.
Studio Exec: Hey FX guy, we've hit a snag. We need a CGI cameo of the late Mr. Butt for the final cut.
FX: What?! The film releases tomorrow! This is insanely short notice.
SE: Well, we tried the original plan - exhuming Mr. Butt's body for a marionette performance - but it backfired.
FX: You tried to... use his actual body? I think I'm going to be sick.
SE: I wish we didn't have to but we are out of options. Things fell apart - quite literally. I trust you can pull this off.
FX: We'll... We'll do our best.
Credit to the executive for thinking CGI cameos of dead people are unethical, even if it was only for a few seconds.
I just don’t really know why they couldn’t just honor their memories by playing clips from the scenes they stared in. It would’ve been a lot more tasteful to play 60’s batman scenes rather than cgi Adam West.
This reminds me of that Harold Ramis cameo in The Ghostbusters: Afterlife film at the end of the movie. Does anyone remember this scene?
Ok so I wasn't fully aware of the situation and was very confused why everyone hated a movie that never came out.
Uhhhh, yeah. Yeah, I can see why now.
I don't see what's so bad about binging a character back from the dead, it's fairly common in super hero movies these days. Oh they want to use cgi to recreate a dead actor's likeness, yeah I don't really like that.
George Reeves claimed that Superman ended his career, after the cancellation of his TV series he did not get any more relevant acting roles. The police included this as a possible cause for his suicide as well.
Think that may have been the first time that a hollywood producer uttered the word "ethical"
0:05 might be the most perfect “Oh No!” in cinematic history. You’ve truly outdone yourself this time, MCT!
All I'm saying is this movie would've been better if instead of batmen I don't really care about we had Adam West batman instead (digitally de-aged) with all his goofiness in tact including his excellent detective skills such as "and we were at the sea C for Catwoman" that would've been way better and Adam West is still alive so it's not scummy
well if he really didn't wanted to be in the movie then he should've just not died 🙄
Necrocinema
The "In English please" is hilarious and infuriating
Love your chanell
i’m so glad we will be able to have man carrying thing with us after death through the power of science and developments in AI
you'd think they could at least get the real nicolas cage huh
Of course they just had to use CGI to copy the face of a dead guy instead of just trying to hire someone who looks pretty similar to them.
"But the release date's tomorrow!"
Hey, if it worked for _Cats_ , it can work for _Butt Destroyer 4_ !
.......
Oh.
This Man is Carrying the Burden of the Morals hollywood dropped.
Lawsuits will be filed against WB.What a joke company sigh.
Honestly unless the dead actor in question gave explicit permission in their will, they shouldn’t be able to do this.
Speaking of cameos, great one at 0:14 about another one of his videos.
More like a reference but you get it
The Flash makes me appreciate the cameos in No Way Home even more. Not only where the actors actually there, but they didn’t steal the focus of the story.
Audiences and die hard fans when they see a bunch of million pixels resembling the barely recognizable face of a deceased actor:
you should make a video about that trope in tv shows where a character goes somewhere and he is making everyone like him because he makes himself look really cool because he keeps inventing lies about himself
then he gets approached outside of that place by some of the people and he gets swarmed with them and needs to keep up all his lies but everyone knows different lies about the character and then everyone gets mad and he appologizes and learns that lying has concequenses
do you know what i mean?
Why did they need to bring back George Reeves when Ben Affleck was already in the movie
The context of the movie bring Affleck in the scene where they were seeing alternative universes makes no sense . They should bring other actor but Affleck would not work.
Well, 12 more ticket sales is something the Flash would go out of it's way for given it's current box office numbers...
Can't wait for Butt Destroyer 5, I heard Vin Diesel will be coe-starring along side Tupac and Biggie for one last space ride with Optimus Prime.
Honestly I think that was better than any of the CGI monstrosities from the end of The Flash
I can't believe they resurrected Nicolas Cage for that movie.
“Is that ethical?” makes this unrealistic