Every time the camera is zoomed out, and we can see the Chauchat on the desk, I'm expecting Ian from Forgotten Weapons to sneak in and steal it while Jonathan is distracted :)
@@Smiththebat yes, and they've published books together. I believe they co-own Headstamp Publishing. Jonathan was feature on a vid promoting his British Bullpup Rifles book.
I almost never use a weapon outside of the nation that uses it. I actually do better that way, despite the pain of adjusting setups each time. BF4, BF1, BFV, you name it.
@@kugelblitzkrieg Same, i do that eveytime i jump on. Unless there's a bunch of sweats on the other team, then that's when i whip out the smg 08/18. By then my day is ruined for casual playing.
@@dammbenderisgreat I'll admit, it was a bit of a luck thing. That damn thing does like I think it is 3 damage per bullet, so in order to kill people with it you basically have to headshot them with the whole mag while they're low in health. Yeah, I still don't know how _I_ managed, it just sort of happened. I get stubborn like that sometimes.
I once got a behemoth kill with it by shooting an AT mine. Absolutely hilarious to see their reactions in chat when they saw the kill cam that a dude with the weakest gun in the game had somehow taken down their armored train.
@@mercenarygundam1487 I remember challenging a tank out in the open within 5-10 meters with k bullets in my Gewher M95. I was jumps and sliding around and I destroyed the whole tank without it damaging me! Then I got killed by a Model 10-A...
Battlefield 1 is amazing to play when they host the “back to basics” gamemode which strips out all of the automatic firearms, we’re talking 32v32 of Gewehr 98s and SMLEs, at times it feels like a firing barage from Napoleonic times. It requires teamwork to win and is incredibly fun
I love that this guy says things like, “it definitely didn’t exist in this time,” or, “There were only prototypes of this and they were just after the war.” He understands why they’re in the game and doesn’t scoff at the historical inaccuracy and realizes the need for variety in weapons.
Yeah it appears that he can really appreciate both history and the game. When I've watched or read other accuracy breakdowns of the game people tear it apart. But they seem to forget that it still has to be a game and that it does a good job of emerssing you and making you appreciate ww1.
@@chawnce1 How does it do that? Having a plethora of weapons that didn't actually exist can't possibly by definition, increase immersion. People just need to get over EVERYTHING needing to be an arcade game. You don't get a ww1 game going "oh boy I hope there is a bunch of stuff that never actually existed in the game." If you don't like bolt actions and semi-auto rifles then maybe instead of turning the game into a run and gun cod copy you should just stick to playing cod and leave battlefield where it was supposed to be, a more historically accurate tactics and team based shooter with large scale warfare. All adding these extra guns did was end up filling battlefield with the same foul mouthed out of control 12 year olds that cod has who have ZERO business in these games.
@KDC RunThat So me pointing out that things that never existed being put in a game purely to attract younger players, for a rated M game, means I have the downs?
@@Konghammer1 Battlefield was never meant to be realistic or tactical. If someone wants a realistic shooter that relies on tactics, then can play ARMA, Squad, or maybe (and this is a stretch) insurgency. The Battlefield franchise was always arcade. For fucks sake, Battlefield 1942 had a jetpack. Remember when the Japanese used German weapons to fight US soldiers on the legendary battle of Wake Island? Made up for the game. How realistic. The lead designer of 1942 even states that it was made as an action romp first and foremost. He even stated that historical accuracy was a spice always trumped by the gameplay.
@@Konghammer1 As @GrazingLemur already said Battlefield has never been super realistic. Its an arcade/sim, a step higher than COD but a far cry from ARMA or similar full sims. At the end of the day even those are far from real war. Personally I think BF1 still has a lot of good tactics and team play, people don't use mics and squad play like they used too but get a group of friends and youre golden. And I didnt realize that people had a problem with map size being too small. I thought most maps were pretty good and I've actually heard some complaints about maps being too big. On the immersion front I simply meant the gun selection makes the game easier to play and funner for most people to play. As least for me it made it more approachable and got me to play more of the game. After that the tactics of the game modes, the fantastic graphics, and great sound design got me imerrsed. To the level where sometimes when I run around a corner and see a tank or see a squad of the enemy my heart drops a little. Thats what I mean by immersion. And as a sidenote, enjoying the game encouraged me to read more books about the war and learn the history.
5:55 Not a big deal but in BF1 they give you a negative trade of for taking a scope on a rifle. When firing you have to unscope to pull the bolt. If you don't take a scope you can pull the bolt with the Iron sights still up :)
And that is period accurate as the scope was in the way of the bolt and needed to keep an eye on the bolt, unlike straight pull bolts that did not require one to stop ADS
That’s actually wrong, their are a few specific rifles that give you the “straight pull buff” where you can pull the bolt with the sights still up, but not all iron sights give you that buff
"I like to think I'm in a steampunk alternate reality when I play battlefield 1" As much as I love this game to bits, I'm SO glad I'm not the only one!
@@canadianbluepants9446 Do people like to pretend as if that whole thing WASN'T just a silly, goofy expansion, focused on "secret weapons" and "what if" scenarios?
I could listen to Jonathan ramble about BF1's arsenal of weaponry for hours if I'm honest! I'd be interested in what he makes of weapons like the SMG08/18, Frommer Stop machine pistol, Parabellum MG14/17 (I believe the Armouries has one in their collection?) and maybe even the depiction of the humble Chauchat. Hopefully I can visit the museum again soon, once things open back up again!
He’s like the English version of Ian from Forgotten Weapons (a brilliant channel) They’re kinda weedy nerds but I think they’re just lovely and can , as you say, ramble as much as they like about these interesting firearms. I’m all ears. It’s fascinating stuff. As much as I agree on the weapons bans we have in UK I’d love to have a go with some if this stuff as my dad did way back when. Quite envious. Top bloke m.
Seeing 1920+ made me think of Iron Harvest and honestly i wish we had a BF1 style game in the Iron Harvest universe, the prototype and rare weapons in BF1 fit really well in that setting
I like how he wasn't super pretentious about it when explaining inaccuracies and stuff. He understands that as a video game it can't be 100% realistic for both balancing and variety purposes. Sometimes with this genre of video it feels like the expert just wants an excuse to tell us all how stupid we are.
Wish the players would act the same way. They played BF1 without saying a word but BFV adds female character models to multiplayer and it was like the world ended. Saw a video just a few days ago where the person was saying BF2042 was "finally going to give us the realistic WWII game we always wanted" with portal because it doesn't have women or customizable uniforms. The fact that those WWII men can fight against desert storm guys with harrier jets was seemingly not an issue though.
Yeah I am a gun nut but I accepted it because I'm also a history buff and I was just happy they did a world war one game and I knew they probably wouldn't get much correct since most guns are probably gone and most ww1 weapons were just bolt actions and they needed a variety
The developers are actually very aware that the game is not genuine WWI. One of them says in a video that this is their vision of what the war could have looked like. In the game menu you can actually read about each gun and like he says in this video, a lot were experimental and/or super rare
The developer are actually very aware that the game is not really genuine WWI. One of them says in a video that this is their vision of what the war could have looked like. In the game menu you can actually read about each gun and like he says in this video, a lot were experimental and/or super rare. Great video! I’m just a gamer but this game has really helped introducing me to some really cool history
I went to the Royal Armoury in Leeds on a school trip a long time ago. They let me dress up as an English Civil War musketeer and challenged me to see how fast I could load and fire a rifle. I'd love to visit again.
@@sumvs5992 Actually... There were the rare rifled muskets used in the American Revolution. That was in the 1770's. So technically he could've been loading a rifle.
Lucky bastard! I would kill to visit the royal armoury museum as a fan of both medieval arms and armour and historical firearms. Not so easy when you live across the pond though :(
It's a great place. I'm friends with the guys that repair the armour that they use in fights. They really go for it and batter the shit out of each other.
I wanna see some more unrealistic games too, to see what guns they're inspired by and see what he thinks of them, like Doom, Titanfall, half life, maybe some warhammer games
Honestly, I feel like he should also look into the more independent games like Verdun and Tannenburg to go deeper into the game weapons of WWI. He might be impressed, might not. Who knows.
@@stevemc6010 I just hate the Webley Revolver (MKVI Revolver). Why does he character just shoves the iron sights right next to his eyes and the gap between it is 1cm
I was a Mosin irons guy. I more or less am in real life too. I can reach out to 300 yards with a Mosin pretty confidently, and in game 500m was a regular shot with irons for me lol
I was just thinking about that. But most of the weapons in the games are made up and overall would be just repeating what has been said on Tarkov videos
I’d love to see him react to more of the guns from this game, especially the reload animations. As much as they included wacky, prototype weapons in BF1, there’s a lot of realism in how the guns operate compared to most AAA FPS games.
BF1 is a arcade style fps thats happened to be set in ww1. It's trying its best to be historical, but also have fun with the gun selection and attachments. It not like verdun and those games which is trying to be as historic as possible, but its not wolfenstein, which is complete fantasy with a historical setting.
It is not trying it’s best to be historical. Far from it, many people wanted and expected that from Battlefield but a lot has changed since the days of 1943.
@@theramblinmahoney2316 It did ok at being historical but it tried having fun with it (but I was a little disappointed at how there's a lot of non trench maps)
@@pandathecrusader5658 Tried to have a little too much fun with it. Yeah honestly, if they cut down on the unnecessary and inaccurate unlocks and instead focused on giving us some hardcore WW1 trench warfare I guarantee people would love the game. Imagine being forced into melee confrontations in the trenches with groups of others. That would be hell of intense.
@@theramblinmahoney2316 In "accurate" trench warfare there would be snipers and LMGs camping everywhere and you wouldn't be able to step one foot out of your trench before you get shot at. Is it inaccurate? Definitely, but no one plays multiplayer videogames for their historical accuracy, because of how hard it is to make something balanced and fun.
The MP18 bayonet looks like it’s something that might’ve been made in the field by some semi-skilled craftsman, its just clamped onto the barrel jacket and tightened with a wingnut, so not based on any real examples but it’s certainly not out of the realm of plausibility
This really needs to be like a 30-60minute long version for BF1 weapons. Loads of weapons to talk about and the interesting design history behind all of them. Was very thankful they even did a BF1 video though so great work!
If you're suggesting CS:S or 1.6 due to the left hand features on virtually all the weapons in the game (IE AK, Scout, and AWM bolts on the left, AR ejection port and forward assist on left), it's simply because all the weapons were modeled and animated from the left side and were mirrored to the right for a more traditional look.
The imperial War museum is worth a visit too. There was a picture of me on display with my muckers, taken during the Kosovo/ Balkans operation. (IFOR).
I love this man. When I used to play, I exclusively used bolt action rifles with irons. Everyone else exclusively used hellriegels... I stopped playing long ago lol Glad to finally see someone talk about this game thats actually familiar with the gear they would of had
@@larrymcjones game’s doing really well a year later, just don’t expect to find games with matchmaking. I always thought the server browser was the better way to find games anyway
remember allot of the gun featured in the game are technically and literally experimental weapons, I think DICE decided to put them into the game as way of thinking "what would happen if WWI did have these weapons in service?" so the weapons are made in prototype sometime before/during the war so they were thinking of how fun it would be
I like using period accurate setups too! Love Bf1! The fact that you can use some of these prototype weapons and see what they MIGHT have been like, is super rad! Very fun and smooth gameplay and incredible sound design! Such a damn good game with super fun and interesting weapons and stuff! Great stuff! 😁👍🏻
Great vid! I was both excited and kinda turned off with experimental weapons in the game, but considering we would have never gotten to "play" with them in any other game or context, its def cool they put them in! Would love a part 2 or even 2 and 3 for the rest of the guns, as there are still lots more to cover!
I feel like I'm the only one saying this but the way he handles the guns really makes me happy, always using gloves it's just really cool to me that he keeps all of the weapons clean and intact.
That's probably why those guns weren't chosen because they're so well documented and their use in the war is also well documented that they can be seen as not as interesting as the lesser known guns of the time.
@@KillahMate You could say that about a few of the guns in the game. I wouldn't classify all the weapons as 'steampunky' or 'fanciful', save for the auto-mosin and bomb lance. I think everything else is fairly realistic otherwise
Two things to say: Firstly, I only just noticed now that when the player is reloading the Kolibri and racks the slide that the guy still has his finger on the trigger. With the distribution of force on such a tiny gun I'm pretty sure that he would fire off a round as he's reloading. Not too big of a safety concern for a Kolibri, but worth pointing out. Second, on the topic of Villar-Perosa stock's I have seen images of authentic Villar-Perosa's with a kind of weird clubfoot stock, but A I'm not sure whether it was meant to assist in shoulder firing or support when fired prone and B I'm not even sure whether they are period WW1, or maybe a post-war effort to make the gun less cumbersome. Great video as always!
This man has the job I was destined for but never knew existed, every Christmas and birthday when I was little I’d get books about various guns and I need this job 😂
what's nice about BF1 is that dice was really good with attention to detail, the british in the game use the bolt as he describes, whereas every other nation doesn't. basically showing that the british have more experience with cycling the bolt of the gun compared to other nations
None of the guns in MGSV are real, so I'm unsure what he'd talk about. Maybe pick out which features look like which mashups of guns, but thats pretty easy to do on your own.
@@overlordedsithii The AM MRS-4? Doesnt really look anything like the Howa Type 89 to me, if anything it looks like a mix of a FN FAL (In the charging handle and part of the upper reciever) and the ZM LR-300 thats mostly popular in games and is unobtanium in real life. Its all approximations though, you'll find features that look like other guns but it all comes together to make a different gun. Like the Karbaga-83, obviously inspired by the Saiga or Vepr 12, but there are parts in it that remind me of the tube stock Valmets, and parts that dont look like any gun in particular at all.
Ive heard that the winchester was meant for use in aircraft like a rear gunner. The second mag well is for loading and shooting the weapon while reloading the second mag well. It only can feed from one mag at a time so the mag wells actually had two modes of insert, so one can be at the ready and the other one can be actuslly feeding.
I'd love to see a breakdown of the firearms in Brink. 24 weapons in total; all custom to the game, but supposedly modeled as mashups/inspired by elements of real firearms
"I like roleplaying as a hapless British soldier who dies a lot" Vibing with Jonathan on this one. COD and Battlefield games do so much to make you feel like an unstoppable hero, but I want the opposite, to feel like a cog in a machine. That's why I really like Rising Storm 2, everyone has access to the same weapons, but they all feel so different it takes genuine effort to get really good with individual guns.
As someone who also likes to roleplay in BF1 as a hapless, period correct, soldier, and is constantly getting stomped on by less discerning "normal" players, I wonder if Jonathan has discovered Verdun?
It would be really awesome to see Jonathan reacts to weapons in Rust. The game has pretty realistic bullet physics, especially visible when on the cargo ship and oil rigs.
I always heard "trench broom" and "trench sweepers " referring too pump shotguns. Including tactics like with Bayonet attached hold the slide stationary and pump the gun when up close .if In a group, you make a musket formation with kneeling and standing troops and each blasts at specific area of the trench . ( If even possible of course. Maybe it worked well in the nice clean German trenches ,lol. ) or alternately , some lay down and shoot up,diagonally and some kneel to shoot forward...
How about a video where Jonathan gets to pick 10 weapons he would want to see in video games, either for looks, unusual reloading mechanism or just because they would fit into certain games really well. Maybe do it in categories. 2 Semi Auto Pistols, 2 Revolvers, 2 Shotguns, 2 Assault Rifles, 1 Sniper/DMR and 1 LMG.
Battlefield really sacrificed historical accuracy just to make the game fun. I love how they included guns that never really made it into the first world war/ were only developed as prototypes because it's kind of like they're showing us forgotten weapons and what they could've felt like to use them. The game even shows you the history of the guns to show that they really existed at the time though weren't used in the war.
I started cycling a bolt the way they will in BF3. Open palm with the bolt sitting in the lower middle. Once you get good at it, it's way quicker than trying to wrap your hand or fingers around the bolt. Not saying people can't do it quickly, but I practiced with a bolt action .410 and it works pretty well
Fun fact: Beretta M1918 submachine gun was to some degree the actual first smg, although it was literally what happens when you slap a Villar Perosa and a Carcano together, no seriously that's what Italy did
Every time the camera is zoomed out, and we can see the Chauchat on the desk, I'm expecting Ian from Forgotten Weapons to sneak in and steal it while Jonathan is distracted :)
Ian's already got 2 chauchats, If he was gonna steal anything from the RA it'd be a MAT-49 or full-auto FAMAS
"Hi I'm Ian from Forgotten Weapons and today I'm gonna steal some of Jonathan's firearms from his collection"
I thought that too, and imagine Ian dual wielding it with the one he already owns.
For all the Forgotten Weapons fans: Has Ian ever had Jonathan on? I feel like he would have fit into the conversation about museums quite nicely.
@@Smiththebat yes, and they've published books together. I believe they co-own Headstamp Publishing. Jonathan was feature on a vid promoting his British Bullpup Rifles book.
"I insist on using period-correct setups".
A man of culture, I see.
Everyone complained i always played recon :c
Because its the only class that has period avcurate arms.
Cavalry is awesome too though
I almost never use a weapon outside of the nation that uses it. I actually do better that way, despite the pain of adjusting setups each time. BF4, BF1, BFV, you name it.
@@kugelblitzkrieg bfv has an option for that at least
@@zvezda7137 it does? Are you talking about combat roles?
@@kugelblitzkrieg Same, i do that eveytime i jump on. Unless there's a bunch of sweats on the other team, then that's when i whip out the smg 08/18. By then my day is ruined for casual playing.
This is Jonathan Ferguson. He needs to create a TH-cam channel.
He has one
@@omnissiah7859 what is it
@@omnissiah7859 i hope your not referring to the royal armory TH-cam channel lol
@@coolfrymaster No, ive seen him comment with his own account under one of the earlier videos
Forgotten weapons is close enough. Go check him out.
"This thing would have...zero stopping power."
People with five hundred Kolibri service stars: "Reality can be whatever I want."
One of my proudest moments was when I managed to get three kills with that thing in one match.
@@PackthatcameBack i havent gotten any and i have spent like 20 hours trying
@@dammbenderisgreat I'll admit, it was a bit of a luck thing. That damn thing does like I think it is 3 damage per bullet, so in order to kill people with it you basically have to headshot them with the whole mag while they're low in health. Yeah, I still don't know how _I_ managed, it just sort of happened. I get stubborn like that sometimes.
Comically large spoon vs comically small gun
@@XtreemAlan the spoon wins
"It won't kill anyone, but it might irritate them"
*By making them rage quit life altogether*
I once got a behemoth kill with it by shooting an AT mine. Absolutely hilarious to see their reactions in chat when they saw the kill cam that a dude with the weakest gun in the game had somehow taken down their armored train.
@@handlesarecringe957 How to humiliate enemies 101.
@@mercenarygundam1487 I remember challenging a tank out in the open within 5-10 meters with k bullets in my Gewher M95. I was jumps and sliding around and I destroyed the whole tank without it damaging me!
Then I got killed by a Model 10-A...
@@namelol.mp4561 I feel this. You’re in the zone absolutely bodying everyone and then bam, shotgun or rifle sweet spot.
@@handlesarecringe957 - That might be the most humiliating ways to die in BF1.
Battlefield 1 is amazing to play when they host the “back to basics” gamemode which strips out all of the automatic firearms, we’re talking 32v32 of Gewehr 98s and SMLEs, at times it feels like a firing barage from Napoleonic times. It requires teamwork to win and is incredibly fun
YES. I love Back to Basics. That's Battlefield 1 at its finest. because it makes it feel more like an actual WWI battle.
A lot of Hellriegal users going to be mad at this one!
I love back to basics with my hud off
@@AbsoluteyAmerican True, it is funny to see people complaining about that mod.
Too bad it takes ten years to find a game
I love that this guy says things like, “it definitely didn’t exist in this time,” or, “There were only prototypes of this and they were just after the war.” He understands why they’re in the game and doesn’t scoff at the historical inaccuracy and realizes the need for variety in weapons.
Yeah it appears that he can really appreciate both history and the game. When I've watched or read other accuracy breakdowns of the game people tear it apart. But they seem to forget that it still has to be a game and that it does a good job of emerssing you and making you appreciate ww1.
@@chawnce1 How does it do that? Having a plethora of weapons that didn't actually exist can't possibly by definition, increase immersion. People just need to get over EVERYTHING needing to be an arcade game. You don't get a ww1 game going "oh boy I hope there is a bunch of stuff that never actually existed in the game." If you don't like bolt actions and semi-auto rifles then maybe instead of turning the game into a run and gun cod copy you should just stick to playing cod and leave battlefield where it was supposed to be, a more historically accurate tactics and team based shooter with large scale warfare. All adding these extra guns did was end up filling battlefield with the same foul mouthed out of control 12 year olds that cod has who have ZERO business in these games.
@KDC RunThat So me pointing out that things that never existed being put in a game purely to attract younger players, for a rated M game, means I have the downs?
@@Konghammer1 Battlefield was never meant to be realistic or tactical.
If someone wants a realistic shooter that relies on tactics, then can play ARMA, Squad, or maybe (and this is a stretch) insurgency. The Battlefield franchise was always arcade. For fucks sake, Battlefield 1942 had a jetpack. Remember when the Japanese used German weapons to fight US soldiers on the legendary battle of Wake Island? Made up for the game. How realistic.
The lead designer of 1942 even states that it was made as an action romp first and foremost. He even stated that historical accuracy was a spice always trumped by the gameplay.
@@Konghammer1 As @GrazingLemur already said Battlefield has never been super realistic. Its an arcade/sim, a step higher than COD but a far cry from ARMA or similar full sims. At the end of the day even those are far from real war. Personally I think BF1 still has a lot of good tactics and team play, people don't use mics and squad play like they used too but get a group of friends and youre golden. And I didnt realize that people had a problem with map size being too small. I thought most maps were pretty good and I've actually heard some complaints about maps being too big. On the immersion front I simply meant the gun selection makes the game easier to play and funner for most people to play. As least for me it made it more approachable and got me to play more of the game. After that the tactics of the game modes, the fantastic graphics, and great sound design got me imerrsed. To the level where sometimes when I run around a corner and see a tank or see a squad of the enemy my heart drops a little. Thats what I mean by immersion. And as a sidenote, enjoying the game encouraged me to read more books about the war and learn the history.
5:55 Not a big deal but in BF1 they give you a negative trade of for taking a scope on a rifle.
When firing you have to unscope to pull the bolt. If you don't take a scope you can pull the bolt with the Iron sights still up :)
Hey iron
And that is period accurate as the scope was in the way of the bolt and needed to keep an eye on the bolt, unlike straight pull bolts that did not require one to stop ADS
That’s actually wrong, their are a few specific rifles that give you the “straight pull buff” where you can pull the bolt with the sights still up, but not all iron sights give you that buff
The most appealing benefit of iron sights is no scope glint revealed to the enemy down range.
Indeed
"I like to think I'm in a steampunk alternate reality when I play battlefield 1" As much as I love this game to bits, I'm SO glad I'm not the only one!
That's literally what BF games are, haha. Alternative history timelines
@@ISAAC607 Not the OG Battlefields
@@georgewhitworth9742 the jetpack in 1942?
@@canadianbluepants9446 Do people like to pretend as if that whole thing WASN'T just a silly, goofy expansion, focused on "secret weapons" and "what if" scenarios?
@@georgewhitworth9742 American with AKs, Middle-Eastern that somehow united under MEC banner, helicopter on WW2? Which one is OG Battlefield?
Chauchat: *Is in background*
Ian McCollum: *bonjour*
O i get it now Ian from forgotten Weapons
Laissez moi vous présenter ses caractéristiques!
I could listen to Jonathan ramble about BF1's arsenal of weaponry for hours if I'm honest! I'd be interested in what he makes of weapons like the SMG08/18, Frommer Stop machine pistol, Parabellum MG14/17 (I believe the Armouries has one in their collection?) and maybe even the depiction of the humble Chauchat. Hopefully I can visit the museum again soon, once things open back up again!
Same!
He’s like the English version of Ian from Forgotten Weapons (a brilliant channel) They’re kinda weedy nerds but I think they’re just lovely and can , as you say, ramble as much as they like about these interesting firearms. I’m all ears. It’s fascinating stuff. As much as I agree on the weapons bans we have in UK I’d love to have a go with some if this stuff as my dad did way back when. Quite envious. Top bloke m.
You can get very similar content on CNArsenal who go through all of the weapons of WW1, and I do mean all of them.
Hey man lookup Hunter S Thompson shooting at his neighbor with...you guessed it an Artillery Luger!
You're in luck! There's a channel called C&Rsenal that does just that.
He’s wrong. As a WW1 veteran, I can confirm that all soldiers on both sides only used the fully automatic Hellriegel. Or the tankgewehr.
You are the true expert
You are the true expert
You are the true expert
tell me, how broken was the automatico
You are the true expert
Me - "I'm ready to be a mature, independent, responsible adult in my life"
Jonathan - "Pausing..."
I've also honestly viewed BF1 as "what if the war lasted into 1920+" in terms of the weapons, it's neat to hear someone else make that supposition.
Yep! It kinds of make sense considering there's *lots* of weapons to choose in the game too :D
Seeing 1920+ made me think of Iron Harvest and honestly i wish we had a BF1 style game in the Iron Harvest universe, the prototype and rare weapons in BF1 fit really well in that setting
The museum is in Leeds UK if anyone’s wondering. It’s great inside
Definitely giving it a visit once all this blows over
@@H31MU7 i visited it in November. A lot of the museum is closed (around the 3rd floor) but even then, it was probably one of the best I’ve been to.
"Hunt-Showdown" is a game set in 1895. There are some interesting guns in there such as the mosin nagant, the lebel and a c96.
And the Browning Auto 5, which as the C96 didn't exist back in 1895 as it was designed in around 1898 and produced in 1902.
@@invictusangelica There's also a giant spider demon, which to my knowledge never existed.
@@invictusangelica Still a fictional game *sigh*
Yeah, please do Hunt!
@@abartcorruption3780 Then?
5min: "The one thing that sticks out is the bayonet"
Yeah, I'd say that's the idea!
Lol oh you
I hate you
You clever bastard
Good one.
Lmaooooo why didnt I think of that, touche sir!
4:59 "So, the one thing that sticks out is the bayonet"
Yes, it's supposed to
Technically you're not wrong
Went looking for this comment before I posted it, was not disappointed
Usually, they're supposed to stick INTO your enemy.
get this man a medal
Unless you're Italian and you fold it up.
I like how he wasn't super pretentious about it when explaining inaccuracies and stuff. He understands that as a video game it can't be 100% realistic for both balancing and variety purposes. Sometimes with this genre of video it feels like the expert just wants an excuse to tell us all how stupid we are.
Well, Battlefield 1 is like 2% realistic.
I like it a lot actually, its like a "what if this crazy prototype actually worked" is fun
Wish the players would act the same way. They played BF1 without saying a word but BFV adds female character models to multiplayer and it was like the world ended. Saw a video just a few days ago where the person was saying BF2042 was "finally going to give us the realistic WWII game we always wanted" with portal because it doesn't have women or customizable uniforms. The fact that those WWII men can fight against desert storm guys with harrier jets was seemingly not an issue though.
Yeah I am a gun nut but I accepted it because I'm also a history buff and I was just happy they did a world war one game and I knew they probably wouldn't get much correct since most guns are probably gone and most ww1 weapons were just bolt actions and they needed a variety
The developers are actually very aware that the game is not genuine WWI. One of them says in a video that this is their vision of what the war could have looked like. In the game menu you can actually read about each gun and like he says in this video, a lot were experimental and/or super rare
The developer are actually very aware that the game is not really genuine WWI. One of them says in a video that this is their vision of what the war could have looked like. In the game menu you can actually read about each gun and like he says in this video, a lot were experimental and/or super rare. Great video! I’m just a gamer but this game has really helped introducing me to some really cool history
I’d like to see a breakdown and analysis of the guns in Red Dead Redemption 2
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Yes!
Yeah!
All the reloads are 20x too fast to be anywhere realistic just so you know
@@reahs4815 Shh
I went to the Royal Armoury in Leeds on a school trip a long time ago. They let me dress up as an English Civil War musketeer and challenged me to see how fast I could load and fire a rifle. I'd love to visit again.
*musket
Rifled muskets weren't being used until the 1800s because of the technology available
Id love to go Is there onr near London
@@sumvs5992 Actually... There were the rare rifled muskets used in the American Revolution. That was in the 1770's.
So technically he could've been loading a rifle.
Lucky bastard! I would kill to visit the royal armoury museum as a fan of both medieval arms and armour and historical firearms. Not so easy when you live across the pond though :(
It's a great place. I'm friends with the guys that repair the armour that they use in fights. They really go for it and batter the shit out of each other.
TARKOV PT 3, INSURGENCY SAND STORM, SQUAD, POST SCRIPTUM, BEYOND THE WIRE AND ENLISTED
This
I wanna see some more unrealistic games too, to see what guns they're inspired by and see what he thinks of them, like Doom, Titanfall, half life, maybe some warhammer games
@@Cheesepuff8 is fortnite good enough for you?
And Rising Storms...both of them...and the future one once it comes out xD
@@Cheesepuff8 How about Counter Strike then?
I like that very last gun that was showcased.
"Sir, how do we increase our firepower!"
"Simple. Two guns."
"At once?"
"Yes."
A very Italian conversation.
Honestly, I feel like he should also look into the more independent games like Verdun and Tannenburg to go deeper into the game weapons of WWI. He might be impressed, might not. Who knows.
SMLE Iron Sight sniping on BF1 is one of the best fps experiences ever
I loved using the M1917 rifle when they finally added it
Martini henry Is a fucking great experience too
@@stevemc6010 I just hate the Webley Revolver (MKVI Revolver). Why does he character just shoves the iron sights right next to his eyes and the gap between it is 1cm
I was a Mosin irons guy. I more or less am in real life too. I can reach out to 300 yards with a Mosin pretty confidently, and in game 500m was a regular shot with irons for me lol
@@JohnSmith-xv2ob fucking Niceeee man!
Would be fun with a video like this on the guns used in Hunt: Showdown.
Yo can we get some reviews of the "Metro" franchise?
would be mad
would be mad
I was just thinking about that.
But most of the weapons in the games are made up and overall would be just repeating what has been said on Tarkov videos
@@TheKenji2221 The made up metro exodus ones are all really intricately designed out of like real world mechanisms, so I think that would work
@@Cheesepuff8 yeah it would be interesting to get a firearm experts opinion on some of these hypothetical guns
Gun expert reacts to jamming in Far Cry 2
A man of culture, literally!
They should make him react to that godawful bolt action reload animation of Far Cry 2
@@grazecoin9854 this
I hated the jamming for the M4..Just hit the bloody unjam thingy- stop looking at the jam-
@@Thatboxlady I really hope you're not referring to the forward assist.
I’d love to see him react to more of the guns from this game, especially the reload animations. As much as they included wacky, prototype weapons in BF1, there’s a lot of realism in how the guns operate compared to most AAA FPS games.
i love how uncomfortable he looks when he starts telling about the donation options lol, going to donate just cause of that.
Yeah can he react to insurgency Sandstorm
BF1 is a arcade style fps thats happened to be set in ww1. It's trying its best to be historical, but also have fun with the gun selection and attachments. It not like verdun and those games which is trying to be as historic as possible, but its not wolfenstein, which is complete fantasy with a historical setting.
It is not trying it’s best to be historical.
Far from it, many people wanted and expected that from Battlefield but a lot has changed since the days of 1943.
@@theramblinmahoney2316 It did ok at being historical but it tried having fun with it (but I was a little disappointed at how there's a lot of non trench maps)
@@pandathecrusader5658 Tried to have a little too much fun with it.
Yeah honestly, if they cut down on the unnecessary and inaccurate unlocks and instead focused on giving us some hardcore WW1 trench warfare I guarantee people would love the game.
Imagine being forced into melee confrontations in the trenches with groups of others. That would be hell of intense.
@@theramblinmahoney2316 In "accurate" trench warfare there would be snipers and LMGs camping everywhere and you wouldn't be able to step one foot out of your trench before you get shot at. Is it inaccurate? Definitely, but no one plays multiplayer videogames for their historical accuracy, because of how hard it is to make something balanced and fun.
@@advaybajpai7940 That in no way disproves my point. People wanted it to be more realistic then it was. You can attempt to split hairs all you want.
The MP18 bayonet looks like it’s something that might’ve been made in the field by some semi-skilled craftsman, its just clamped onto the barrel jacket and tightened with a wingnut, so not based on any real examples but it’s certainly not out of the realm of plausibility
“I use Period correct setups”
Love this guy 😍
I’d love to see what he thinks about Hotdogs Horseshoes and Handgrenades
Yes that would be epic and he would probably lose his shit over how accurately the guns are modelled
Well the video is made
Someone should've shown him the 3rd person reload animation of the Kolibri, the soldier loses the magazine and starts searching on the ground
This really needs to be like a 30-60minute long version for BF1 weapons. Loads of weapons to talk about and the interesting design history behind all of them. Was very thankful they even did a BF1 video though so great work!
I'd love to see the poor guy be subjected to Counter-Strike: Source
wait for cs 1.6 lmao
Oh god no, it would kill the man
If you're suggesting CS:S or 1.6 due to the left hand features on virtually all the weapons in the game (IE AK, Scout, and AWM bolts on the left, AR ejection port and forward assist on left), it's simply because all the weapons were modeled and animated from the left side and were mirrored to the right for a more traditional look.
And….done. Good episode. So glad he actually played those back when they were fresh.
I love how when you pull out the kolibri, even the main character is like "WTF is this"
Really glad there’s another video! I really admire this man’s passion and I have so much respect for those who work at museums!
Hunt: Showdown - weapons there are incredible
Okay, added another place to visit in my bucket list. Royal Armory.
Yeah i'm gonna have a visit as soon as this blasted lockdown ends.
It’s really good and was free last time I went in 2016
@@ninjaunknown1093 Still free when I went in 2019!
You'll love it.
The imperial War museum is worth a visit too. There was a picture of me on display with my muckers, taken during the Kosovo/ Balkans operation. (IFOR).
I love this man. When I used to play, I exclusively used bolt action rifles with irons. Everyone else exclusively used hellriegels... I stopped playing long ago lol
Glad to finally see someone talk about this game thats actually familiar with the gear they would of had
I wish people still played the game. I have trouble finding lobbies in 2021
@@larrymcjones game’s doing really well a year later, just don’t expect to find games with matchmaking. I always thought the server browser was the better way to find games anyway
"Okay guys so that was all the Battlefield 1 weapons"
Chauchat overlooking his back: Am I a joke to you father?
This is exactly what I've been waiting for.
I donated some bucks I enjoy this guy's info and entertainment value.
good on you!
Keep bringing this guy back! He’s awesome!
Jonathan Ferguson has a wholesome smile on the thumbnail
remember allot of the gun featured in the game are technically and literally experimental weapons, I think DICE decided to put them into the game as way of thinking "what would happen if WWI did have these weapons in service?" so the weapons are made in prototype sometime before/during the war so they were thinking of how fun it would be
Glad to know I wasn’t the only one running around with a historically correct class(or as close I could get in BF1)
we need this guy to assist in the making of a new fps game
I would’ve loved to see him go over the Auto loading 8.25 and the Mars automatic.
I like using period accurate setups too! Love Bf1! The fact that you can use some of these prototype weapons and see what they MIGHT have been like, is super rad! Very fun and smooth gameplay and incredible sound design! Such a damn good game with super fun and interesting weapons and stuff! Great stuff! 😁👍🏻
1:40 There were box magazines. It was used as both a light machine gun and an sub machine gun as can be seen in the photo
Great vid! I was both excited and kinda turned off with experimental weapons in the game, but considering we would have never gotten to "play" with them in any other game or context, its def cool they put them in!
Would love a part 2 or even 2 and 3 for the rest of the guns, as there are still lots more to cover!
"I insist on using period correct setups"
Please adopt me, Mr. Ferguson.
I can get behind Johnathan making a channel either dedicated to weapons history, game reviews, or just streaming games
I feel like I'm the only one saying this but the way he handles the guns really makes me happy, always using gloves it's just really cool to me that he keeps all of the weapons clean and intact.
Very fine work John, having a channel that compared game guns to real life is very helpful and educational. Looking forward to future videos.
Would be great to see him look at some of the guns we know we’re real from bf1 , IE Lewis gun , Bar , maxim , etc
We are indeed real
That's probably why those guns weren't chosen because they're so well documented and their use in the war is also well documented that they can be seen as not as interesting as the lesser known guns of the time.
Did they also run around with Louis guns with telescopic sights like the sweatlords in my games
What's a Louis gun?
@@tonymetalfan Lewis*
Lewis is efficient
@@josephray7255 Same number of letters.
@@myopicthunder Correct sir, never have tried to correct anyone on spelling in social media. Just pointing it's a good lmg.
I for one would love to see him breakdown Hunt: Showdown
Hunt: Showdown is also a lot of period-accurate but rare and kinda steampunky designs, isn't it?
@@KillahMate nah. All the weapons in the game exist irl. Even automatic mosin
@@Mumpfoon Yeah sure, but all the weapons in Battlefield 1 also 'exist in real life'. They didn't make anything up. It's just a bit fanciful.
@@KillahMate ur wrong the weapons in battlefield 1 never existed they are fake
@@KillahMate You could say that about a few of the guns in the game. I wouldn't classify all the weapons as 'steampunky' or 'fanciful', save for the auto-mosin and bomb lance. I think everything else is fairly realistic otherwise
Two things to say:
Firstly, I only just noticed now that when the player is reloading the Kolibri and racks the slide that the guy still has his finger on the trigger. With the distribution of force on such a tiny gun I'm pretty sure that he would fire off a round as he's reloading. Not too big of a safety concern for a Kolibri, but worth pointing out.
Second, on the topic of Villar-Perosa stock's I have seen images of authentic Villar-Perosa's with a kind of weird clubfoot stock, but A I'm not sure whether it was meant to assist in shoulder firing or support when fired prone and B I'm not even sure whether they are period WW1, or maybe a post-war effort to make the gun less cumbersome.
Great video as always!
I hope you do a second episode, I really want to know what he says about the Selbstlader 1906
Please do a Part 2 of this...!!
This man has the job I was destined for but never knew existed, every Christmas and birthday when I was little I’d get books about various guns and I need this job 😂
React to Battlefield 4 weapons.There are a ton of weapons.
We need part 2 of this PLEASE!!!
what's nice about BF1 is that dice was really good with attention to detail, the british in the game use the bolt as he describes, whereas every other nation doesn't. basically showing that the british have more experience with cycling the bolt of the gun compared to other nations
Wait, really? That’s amazing! Years later and there’s still so much detail in this game that blows my mind
His shirt: "Badger! Badger! Badger! Badger! Badger! Badger!"
How about MGSV?
Mushroom mushroom
Maybe he is apart of Soviet Wombles Arma Unit "The Badgers".
None of the guns in MGSV are real, so I'm unsure what he'd talk about. Maybe pick out which features look like which mashups of guns, but thats pretty easy to do on your own.
@@aubrey_d thats true but snakes main weapon is actually based off the JSDF's assault rifle
@@overlordedsithii The AM MRS-4? Doesnt really look anything like the Howa Type 89 to me, if anything it looks like a mix of a FN FAL (In the charging handle and part of the upper reciever) and the ZM LR-300 thats mostly popular in games and is unobtanium in real life. Its all approximations though, you'll find features that look like other guns but it all comes together to make a different gun. Like the Karbaga-83, obviously inspired by the Saiga or Vepr 12, but there are parts in it that remind me of the tube stock Valmets, and parts that dont look like any gun in particular at all.
Hunt Showdown, next please.
Cry Engine's best till date and arguably has the best looking Mosin.
Can he react to Hunt Showdown ?
Sees a 20-round revolver
'Pauuuuusing'
@@巧红-u1x yeah lol, Hunt is known for having lots of bizarre guns
@@fracturedmirror4300 most of them are real though and the loading animations are pretty well done
Agreed a video on hunt would be fun.
YES
Ive heard that the winchester was meant for use in aircraft like a rear gunner. The second mag well is for loading and shooting the weapon while reloading the second mag well. It only can feed from one mag at a time so the mag wells actually had two modes of insert, so one can be at the ready and the other one can be actuslly feeding.
Id love a Hunt:Showdown video with him.
I'd love to see a breakdown of the firearms in Brink. 24 weapons in total; all custom to the game, but supposedly modeled as mashups/inspired by elements of real firearms
"I like roleplaying as a hapless British soldier who dies a lot"
Vibing with Jonathan on this one. COD and Battlefield games do so much to make you feel like an unstoppable hero, but I want the opposite, to feel like a cog in a machine. That's why I really like Rising Storm 2, everyone has access to the same weapons, but they all feel so different it takes genuine effort to get really good with individual guns.
I’d like to see a breakdown and analysis of the guns in DayZ
I can not get enough of this guy and his commentary of guns in games. Genius! Absolute awesome content! :D
Jonathan and Anthony from ltt are the only people i can listen to for hours
As someone who also likes to roleplay in BF1 as a hapless, period correct, soldier, and is constantly getting stomped on by less discerning "normal" players, I wonder if Jonathan has discovered Verdun?
I hope he reacts to Rainbow Six: Siege guns.
After reviewing modern warfare, tarkov and battlefiled, he will find how unreal siege's guns are.
He’ll be so disappointed
@@Unrequired how are modern warfare's guns realistic😂?
When he mentioned the Ross rifle I heard a deep sigh from every Canadian ever
I really wanna see a part 2 to battlefield 1 weapons. there are so many weird & unknown weapons in that game that i'd like to know more about
The Chauchat in the background is just eye candy for Gun Jesus Ian from forgotten weapons.
Badger shirt is epic.
I would just love to see his take on the weapons from the Mass Effect universe!
It would be really awesome to see Jonathan reacts to weapons in Rust. The game has pretty realistic bullet physics, especially visible when on the cargo ship and oil rigs.
And he did.
This day.
I love this series you guys are doing!
I always heard "trench broom" and "trench sweepers " referring too pump shotguns. Including tactics like with Bayonet attached hold the slide stationary and pump the gun when up close .if In a group, you make a musket formation with kneeling and standing troops and each blasts at specific area of the trench . ( If even possible of course. Maybe it worked well in the nice clean German trenches ,lol. ) or alternately , some lay down and shoot up,diagonally and some kneel to shoot forward...
Damn I was featured in a video! A big Thank you Jonathan for the amazing content and thank you GameSpot for making this possible!
i’m just here for the Kolibri ofc
He had a Chauchat behind him the whole time but they never showed it in the game lmao
Right?!? He also commented on the SMLE but didn't mention anything on the G98, Ross rifle, Springfield 1903, or the M1917.
How about a video where Jonathan gets to pick 10 weapons he would want to see in video games, either for looks, unusual reloading mechanism or just because they would fit into certain games really well. Maybe do it in categories. 2 Semi Auto Pistols, 2 Revolvers, 2 Shotguns, 2 Assault Rifles, 1 Sniper/DMR and 1 LMG.
5:56 I know how you feel, I always use the iron sights over the optical, plus I usually use period accurate(-ish?) loadouts
Battlefield really sacrificed historical accuracy just to make the game fun. I love how they included guns that never really made it into the first world war/ were only developed as prototypes because it's kind of like they're showing us forgotten weapons and what they could've felt like to use them. The game even shows you the history of the guns to show that they really existed at the time though weren't used in the war.
Games I'd like to see Jonathan review:
-ALL OF THEM
That will be all.
Would love to see this guy analyse hunt showdown guns!!!
I started cycling a bolt the way they will in BF3. Open palm with the bolt sitting in the lower middle. Once you get good at it, it's way quicker than trying to wrap your hand or fingers around the bolt. Not saying people can't do it quickly, but I practiced with a bolt action .410 and it works pretty well
Fun fact: Beretta M1918 submachine gun was to some degree the actual first smg, although it was literally what happens when you slap a Villar Perosa and a Carcano together, no seriously that's what Italy did