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- Welcome to the CL Pet Ads where we will evaluate care shown in these ads and discuss with you the good and bad pet husbandry. We will bring up valuable points, what works for the pet, mention what could be improved and discuss a species needs. The focus in these new videos will be about educating instead of reactions to encourage the viewer on learning more about the pet and to showcase #ThinkAdoptionFirst. Not everyone will bring their small companion to a shelter or rescue. Many choose to list still on Craigslist. There are hardly any rescues or foster homes for small pets like hamsters, so maybe you'd like to help out your small pet community after seeing this video? Who knows, maybe you'll make a different in the lives of pets and people.
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Omg! Is that a toothless Christmas shirt?!? I’m in love 😍
Fuckin doughhhhh
Ok so for the bearded dragon tank...
Pros:
They have a heat light
Has thermometer
They feed them dubias
The substrate is ok
Cool looking background
Bearded dragon looks ok
Is fed veggies
Is held often
Cons:
20 gallon tank, seriously?
Uncleaned poop in the picture
We don’t know if it has uvb
Lights are on different sides of the tank!
No enrichment. Nothing to climb on and nothing to hide under.
I rate it a 2. Even though there are lots of pros, that doesn’t matter if there are lots of cons as well.
Sydney Sharkk they look overweight to me but I’m no expert
yeah roaches are great but that is not allllll they eat. I see a lot of fatties where I work.
The cons are large cons not small little cons
Jen C nah they look like an ok weight, could have mbd but it’s hard to tell from the picture.
Stephanie Provost its good that they feed them dubias and veggies at least, instead of just pellets.
The beardie tanks have the basking spot in the middle of the tank, meaning that there is no room for them to be able to thermoregulate effectively as heat will cover both ends of the tank. A basking bulb needs to be at one end of the tank to allow them to have a hot side and a cooler side.
(the first one)
Can you please make a video responding to the channel, “I Chose Hampture”. This man tortures his hamsters keeping them in under water aquariums. The hamsters are in tiny enclosures with no bedding, wheels, or interaction. One of the aquariums just had a leak. This man is sick!!
Miss Krystyna he doesn’t care either! He’s super rude when people call him out.
He has a video called "massive cage reconstruction" or something along those lines and yeah its jUst sOoooO mAssIvE. This man truly is sick.
I saw a tiktok video where they had like 50 drawf hamsters in a small cage
Wtf! That’s disgusting. He deserves the exact same treatment as he treats those hamsters.
Those aquariums are meant for transport. Yo. I keep caterpillars in there xd
Watching this with my 2 year old, and she is intrigued by your hair!
I would have rated some of those beardie tanks lower, as none of them had linear uvb which is essential to absorb d3. This will lead to MBD and stunted growth so it’s pretty important. Along with other issues mentioned, bearded dragons need more space than you might expect, the bigger the better.
true I have a friend who has LOTS of bearded dragons and lizards and yeah they need a LOT OF SPACE!!
Yup, from my research and the people I spoke to, a 120 gallon tank is minimum size for an adult beardie.
You should do a video where you rate your subscribers hamster , gerbil, or mice enclosures and tell them how they can improve!
Christina Chavez yes! I ❤️ this idea.
Alisha Tomblin thank you ! I really hope she considers it I would love to send mine it and see what she has to say!
I think she has already mentioned why she doesn't do this. She doesn't want to risk offending her subscribers especially since many may be young as well. It's one thing saying "Here is what person A is doing, here's how to make it better" rather than directly telling the people who support you that they're potentially not doing a good job.
Hopefully if they're seriously watching her videos, they can figure out what they need to change in their enclosures on their own tbh.
Not necessarily rate but showing us how to improve which is the same thing as telling us what we can do better because everyone has to start somewhere & not everyone knows everything, especially her younger viewers. You can research all you want & still make some mistakes because we are all human. Some people don’t have the time to watch all her videos. I love watching them as much as I can though. & yes I can see why she wouldn’t want to now. Some people do get offended & she wouldn’t want to upset any of her subscribers that enjoy watching her. By the way Merry Christmas Eve you all! 🎄🎅☃️
I'd hope that anyone spending free time watching these videos has at least a decent cage.. It'd be a boeing video. 'this cage looks good, that one too, maybe use a different wheel in that one etc.'
The Guinea Pig add broke my heart. Thank you for being so fantastically blunt and yet so charming and caring Munchie. Your channel is so important.
Completely off topic, I’m in love with that lipstick!
Omg yes I love it
it looks like safiya nygaards lipstick
I love the color combined with her hair
Sara Bullock It does!
I just adopted a Syrian hamster that had been to a home and they didn’t take care of her probably. When they gave her back she was very shy, I have had her for 5 days and she is not shy any more I feel like I have helped her a lot 😁
Jazmin chubb, ya it sounds like you have helped her, good job🖒
Amy Goddard thanks
We need more people like you.
Good job to you!
I started a small rescue for my self. I saved 2 hamsters so far from besomming snake food and I saved 2 other hamsters that where together with other Syrians !!! They both had wounds it was terrible. I rehomed 1 of the hamsters and i am keeping the rest of them. If i have space again i will save one lucky hamsters. Each hamster got their own 1 meter terrarium with a nature themed style. And a LOT of chew toys. Like i keep buying them😂 they also have a 27 cm wheel, a sandbath, good food, 2 times a week a healthy salad with fruits. And some life plants. I also saved 4 mice from becoming snake food. They got their own paradise now
30 mins of bad craigslist ads?! My body is ready.
THE BLUE LIPSTICK!! I love it, you should try green to compliment your hair.
That Christmas tree Headband is amazing
I internally screamed when it said ‘loves peppers’ in the guinea pig ad
That scorpion's tank is way too small, thats a bit frustrating
Besides that the tarantula looks like it's a terrestrial in an arboreal set up. If it is actually an arboreal it has no long corkbarks or plants to climb up or hide in.
What time ?
@@chipperandlola5457 25:50 :)
You inspired me to foster 7 hamsters thank you ❤
Good on you. Hope you enjoy them.
Thankyou for doing this ♥ hope they live happily and healthy
I was cleaning my Guinea pig cage while watching this. Wish I had more space I'd love to have more piggies T-T but dont have the appropriate space for more than 2 right now. I also have other animals in the house and I'm just at my limit for what I can care for. Hope all those animals find there way to good homes!
Was it just me or were the first Bearded Dragons living in cardboard boxes? Also, from the limited amount of knowledge I have on beardies, the environments looked very small for the size of the dragons. Surely, along with how close the basking lamps were to the base of the tank, there wouldn't have been much of a heat gradient in there either?
Like I say, my knowledge is fairly limited so correct me if I'm wrong here.
Oh my gosh you’re right! Unless they just have cardboard on the outside of the tank. And yeah, the light should be on one side of the tank so they can also have a cool side. Why would you put bearded dragons in a box?
@@sydneysharkk2467 Hopefully they were just maybe trying to avoid reflections or something so they put the cardboard in temporarily. It definitely made it seem like they were living in boxes!
Lauren D hopefully! :)
@@LaurenRocks16 It is a tank. If you look closely you can see the light reflecting on it and the op rim of the tank. I would assume since they have two this was to prevent one from seeing the other. You are right tho, too small a tank. It's possible to do a heat gradient, but like physically it's not enough space to put all the stuff you want in a good dragon habitat in there
Lauren D no I definitely agree those first beardie set ups were not good! Like what was the cardboard? And the cages looked so tiny.
Its nice to see other responsible animal fosters
The second dragon looks like on the way to death.
Can you give me the time scamp please!
Animals are truly priceless and worth more than any money
So number 8...
Small, no hides, no enrichment, TWO WARM ENDS so she cant thermo regulate, bu i guess rocks to keep the nails down (?).
Poor baby needs a big upgrade
Your hair is looking especially beautiful today 😊
I wish I could foster some hamsters but I don’t have the space but maybe someday!
*sniff sniff* I smell a Demon slayer fan. UwU
Miraculous illustrator you found me
@@stubeii 😀😀
Her lipstick is brighter than my future
Relatable
And its DARK blue... sad
But totally relatable lol😂
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Congratulations on 50k ❤️
That mouse ad is so beautiful I have never seen such beauty on Craigslist
One of my old hamsters used to love her flying saucer wheel, I always kept a normal wheel in there but she never really used it. I would say put a normal wheel in there just in case because as I found out the only time she would use her normal wheel was when the saucer was jammed as she liked to sleep underneath it, and they can be easily jammed up by bedding throughout the night. But everyone's experiences will be different
Oh god that scrawny bearded dragon in the exo-terra with the undertank heater.... ripped my heart apart.
That last piggie ad has a salt lick in it. Piggies aren't supposed to have salt licks. I totally agree with you on the rusted cage. Love your videos.
its an older image when i first made the cage i removed it shortly after putting it in.
Love you watching your video made me adopted my hamster best thing I ever did
You are the Hamster Queen Munchie 👑 wishing you & all the animals a Happy Christmas 🎄🎁 Love from the UK ❤
From the UK, I definitely feel that flying saucers arnt great 🤷♂️ I think they are worse than normal wheels because it is more difficult at least visually for the hamster to run for a long time. It also takes up a lot more space and can get jammed easier
I don’t like them either. My hamster never learned how to use the flying saucer wheel, so I got her a silent spinner.
I think it's okay if you give the option of both wheel and saucer. All the hamsters I've known/had prefer them, but I think a proper wheel is essential.
@@jaded161 I agree but as long as there is enough room. (if the cage is smaller than just a normal wheel will provide more space)
@@max-bl6fi Well ultimately if you cage is correctly sized a saucer won't affect it much. Maybe a 12" for a Syrian would be somewhat excessive, but if you've got a minimum cage it should be alright
@@jaded161 yeah I guess personally I feel like it's a waste of space but if the hamster likes it and it's the correct size then sure. (my hamsters hate them lol)
I was so happy when i found out you rescued the beardie! My brother has one, and he is the sweetest thing, and it made me so sad to see him in that condition. So glad hes gone to a good home!
Does anybody else say, "Hi Munchie!" when she introduces herself? Her enthusiasm is infectious. XD
I also think you should do a video where your subscribers send In pictures of their hamsters, mice, or gerbils enclosures while you give your opinion on the care and what they can improve by what you see in the picture! 🐹❤️🥰
I’d give #8 a 4 out of 10
CONS
the lighting and heating isn’t great, the tank is too small, no enrichment
PROS
dubias are a good staple, it has heating, but that’s it lol
lol that moment you find your guinea pigs craigslist post on a you tube video, mine is the last one in the video.
I think the ad at the end is a 4 (good job so far) because there isn't really much bedding or things to climb on for enrichment however, they unclude a colony of Dubias, a 20 gallon tank, plus many more things that the bearded dragon would like.
As far as I've learned cricket colony's arn't indefinite. After a few generations they get inbread the more inbread they get the more likely your colony is going to fail sometimes it can be prolonged by introducing new crickets but there is no guarantee this goes for any feeder colony roaches, crickets, worms,etc. But they can save you enough money to make it worth it you just have to replace the colony every couple of years. It is a great investment to grow a colony If you have a lizard
On the beardies, a full tank of loose substrate is actually very bad for their joints. They need solid ground to walk on. If they feed out of cage the walnut bedding pictured is okay...but you want a very thin layer atop something like ceramic tiles. And theres no calcium bowl which they like to have to balance calcium levels
I'm from WA. too I remember seeing all these ads😂 I've owned many mice over the past couple of years yet none of them have been chewers😂
Those bearded dragon cages were so small 😖
Loving the toothless Christmas shirt!
Your videos lately have been giving me lifee, thank you for all of these
Munchie you have really inspired me to want to start my own rescue in the future. I have recently seen some hamsters in need and have been wanting to help at least one, because that all I have room for at the moment. I have the supply’s and already own one hamster but hopefully in the future I can have more room to help more.
I took in a 2 yr old bearded dragon from Craigslist about a month ago and I'm really happy with her. Her previous care was adequate but not ideal, she was being kept in a 40 gal, with heat and UV, but was fed a mix of pellets and wild caught insects and wasn't given any calcium or vitamin supplement, and her hide was wayyy too small for her (it looks like they got it for her when she was a baby and never got her a bigger one). She's in a 4' x 2' x 2' sliding door style enclosure now with more enrichment and a better diet.
Not related to video, but you look so jolly! 😄And I LOVE your shirt!
the most recent standard size for beardie enclosures is 4x2x2 feet as they get on average 2 feet long. that is actually a 120 gallon tank. and as far as sand substrate its still an iffy topic. but they should be able to past snad if they have proper heating. they do naturally live on sand.
More good and bad craig list adds please and thank you
My syrian is on the smaller side but I still feel like his back curves a bit in his 12 inch saucer. He has both a wheel and saucer in his home at all times but uses the saucer about 80% of the time. The larger hamster I had before him was the same... i feel bad removing the saucer but idk. Maybe they just prefer them since thats what all local pet stores use so they got used to them as babies
You could see if there's a larger one somewhere? Or maybe diy one!
I think that if they were really hurt, they wouldn't use the saucer and would go for the weel.
Awhile ago my family had a bearded dragon and we loved her, got her at an expo and bought a HUGE tank, probably around 100 gallons idk it was massive. Unfortunately she passed but we still love and miss her.
I visited a rescue one time where they had just rescued a monitor lizard that day (I think it was a monitor, it might have been a bearded dragon) and were just about to bring him back. The lady got the call as I was stood there talking to her about their marmosets. Pretty awesome.
Those poor Guinea pigs!!! I have 8 guinea pigs in great living place but seeing that tiny rusty cage makes me so sad and feel so bad for those 2 guinea pigs. Mine are in huge cages compared to that! They have their own room!
Oh, Munchie! About the beardie tanks, I used to house my two adult beardies in 40 gallon breeders and they both got too big for them (as in their tail tip to head.) We ended up getting them both 75 gallon tanks too, just because it was hard watching them barely have enough room to turn around.
Please don't take this as an attack, but beardies should be housed in a 120 gallon tank or 4'x2'x2'. Considering a healthy adult bearded dragon should be anywhere from 16 to 24 inches in length, even that 2' tank depth seems almost a little short. Also, setting up the temperature gradient that they need to regulate their body temperature would be hard in a smaller tank.
If you want to educate yourself further, check out Wicken's Wicked Reptiles or Clint's Reptiles for their videos on bearded dragon care.
I live with a Bearded Dragon, he's so cute, he's friendly, he's loving and he just adores everyone. Seriously, if you know what you're doing, did your research, they can make for a really nice pet. The one I'm living with likes to watch the telly, too.
I love that it just sounds like the beardie is your roommate lol
Munchies place every dwarf hamster we had where cute fluffy cuddly and very friendly
My dwarf was friendly and sweet until I took him to the vet for skin issue. He never forgave me and I couldn't tame him again. He passed away a few months later. I miss him.
I love your videos. I don't have pets (and I don't want any), but your videos are so educating and I'm sure, the have impact. Pets are work and I think, you are doing a great job in making people aware of that and why it is important.
And I like the color of your fancy lipstick :) Your skin looks so so pale, like paperwhite. I thought, this was maybe because of your camera and lightning and not intended? Red, White and Green are Christmas Colors, so I find this funny.
As a guinea pig owner that cage pisses me off. the bedding is terrible, you should use pine shavings if you can find it. You can even tell that the sows have been chewing on the cage and according to guniea pig 101 "Also, biting their cage bars might be a sign of boredom, lack of mental stimulation, not enough room in the cage, or even due to improper diet." it's hard to tell but the cage looks really small for a guniea pig let alone two
I like how you save animals it's good
Beardies should never be kept on just sand - even if you feed them outside the enclosure. I would recommend keeping them entirely on tile or smooth gravel instead, though having some sand isn't terrible as long as they have the option to leave the sand without having to climb to a basking spot. For beardies having only sand as the floor substrate can lead to femoral pore impaction which can cause several other issues including infection if left untreated.
For the bearded dragon 🐉
Good points - Heat lamp, food dish, water bowl (maybe too large), basking spot with rock, correct sized enclosure 👍
Bad points - No substrate, no hide...not sure what else, as I’m not a reptile person 🦎
I would give them a 3 for ‘needs improvement’ 😊
Great vid!
I bought my first two rats but after seeing your videos I'm going to try to adopt some babies I've seen nearby up for adoption on Craigslist. Someone accidentally bred a rat and needs to get rid of the grown litter, and my cage has a ton of room
For bearded dragon set ups without water, that’s actually not an issue. Bearded dragons get most of their water from food, or from a weekly bath. You can also take a syringe and put droplets on your bearded dragon’s nose to encourage them to drink. But they’re desert dwelling creatures and are designed to have lesser water intake. Many won’t even ever try drinking from bowls because that’s just not how they drink in the wild. They drink either drops of water off of plants or rocks, usually, in the wild.
The piggies in the small cage are what I see a lot. Well, assuming they're even in a cage when I get them. We've had some in cardboard boxes, and when asked about cage etc. we're put off from it; people are happy to give their animals to a rescue, but not the equipment to care for them.
You can tell the people who love their guinea pigs. We had a pair of elderly brothers who came with their C&C cage, 2x4 with fleece bedding, plus the stuff for their nails and impaction, not to mention a care book and a pet carrier. I connected two women earlier this year, one who wanted to get guinea pigs for her son and one who needed to rehome her female; I had a female who I'd been fostering for a year, so we paired them up and I drove them down to the adopter's home (different city, 3 hour drive), and the woman who gave up her girl passed on the cage, hay, bedding, food, and other supplies. And we were gifted a 2x4 C&C cage with extra grids, several bags of fleece bedding, a bin of puppy pads etc, and some hides, by a woman who adopted a boy from us in 2014 to be a cage mate for her disabled male. Those two got along famously, and after the older one passed away the younger one (the one who was adopted) didn't last a week, he was so heartbroken. Various life events mean that they won't be getting new piggies for a while, and when they do they would rather start fresh with all new everything, so my rescue won out.
Neglect on the one you let us decide
Munchie, the red head hamster lady. Found some very good pet ads! And if she ever saw a bad one, she would get very mad-
One thing about the beardie in the 70 gallon that could be a deadly but probably unintental mistake is you MUST use a heating Pad with a themisat I've had friends that their lizards were cooked alive on unregulated heating sources and instead of carpet maybe use tie a lot of expericed owners and breeders do this or newspaper
I wish I had known this when I had a hamster. But if I ever get another one I will make my own bin cage
I LOVE YOUR SHIRT
Beardies shouldn't have water bowls in their tanks it bumps the humidity up too much. Just morning and night sprays and they drink that. Fair enough to offer and remove but not full time if you want to offer optimum conditions.
Can you explain more about the rust? I think I have some on my rats cage 😰because it's second hand and already had some, could that be dangerous?
Hi I am new and I love that you made this video and it really helps me find the perfect hammy
I’m not an expert but those bearded dragons look overweight to me and you can never tell if they’ve been feeding them with calcium supplements
Love your shirt! You look super cute. 😊 I like these videos, it’s sad to see how many people get an animal and can’t take care of them.
i know I'm a late for this one but I thought why not put my opinion out there for number 7 you said the naturalistic sand lowered the risk for impaction which I believe is correct but not positive due to not knowing the actual type of sand the ideal substrate for a beardie is about 2/3 topsoil 1/3 playsand it is recommended by lots of people it allows for burrows and lowers the risk of impaction to almost none and for enclosure size 40 gal breeders are the "minimum" but imo that's way too small the min for me is gonna be a 75 gallon and ideally an adult would be housed in a 4x2x2 or 120 gal and on to number 8 the tank is way to small as you stated and the newspaper substrate is ok but topsoil play sand mix is much better for enrichment and just better quality of life also I can't really tell exactly what each light is but ideally they would be a uvb strip measuring 2/3 of the enclosure and to have a large heat gradiant which I harder to pull of in a tank for that size number 8 would most likely be a 2 maybe 3 but it really depends on the information that was not included
Lovd this video!!! I am so happy I'm subscribed to you!!!!!you are the best
My favorite reptile "bedding" is actual flooring I got some laminet from the hardward store and it's easy clean up my leopard gecko had good grip
I have an unintentional spare cage that was intended for a hamster that was given to me and if I ever saw a hamster, gerbil or another small furry I would immediately rehome them 😊 I wouldn’t care if it was long term or fostering I would do it! I tried to persuade my parents to take in a bunny that needed rehoming but my mum said no (in all fairness I have 5 bunnies already 😳)
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I don’t know a ton about Bearded Dragons. I do know the tank is far too small, it’s unknown if there’s UVB on the tank and there shouldn’t be two basking lights on either side. Shouldn’t they have a warm and cool side? There needs to be some sort of level so the lizard get get closer to the heat source (or further away). I don’t believe they need that big of a water bowl, but I’m glad he’s getting veggies and roaches.
I live in Europe and I personally think that the flying saucers are better because they do not bend there backs
They do curve their backs and need to be very large to let the animals run flat, so it's about the same.
Yeah true I must have a very large one then
Just a comment about the bearded dragons the one without a water dish did really well because you shouldn't have water in their enclosure as it increases humidity and can be quite dangerous so you have to give them water a few times a day and keep an eye on their body language but most pet shops and owners don't know that and were never informed of that
@Munchie's Place Something else about the Bearded Dragons, they should not be on sand or any small gritty substrate like that. It easily clogs the femoral pores (scent/oil glands located near the rump and underside of the rear legs of the dragon) causing issue. Many people don't know about this and it makes me wonder if these 2 beardies potentially had clogged pores.
I love your toothless shirt!
I’m living for the shirt your wearing
for the bearded dragon tank. First of all, bearded dragons do not belong in 20 gallon tanks unless they are juveniles. There is not a lot of enrichment in the enclosure. It just looks very bland. Also the lights are on opposite sides of the enclosure when they should be on one. There is no basking spot for him to bask. pro's: he has heating and UVB I think, can't tell if that's a UVB bulb. The substrate is fine, there is a thermometer, there are veggies, bearded dragon looks healthy, there's a water dish, tank looks clean except for poops here and there.
Reptiles are quite a bit more expensive to set up than small mammals. For example, I just spent several hundred setting up an enclosure for a gecko I plan on getting. I don't think $100+ to get a setup off craigslist is a bad deal, especially if it's a proper setup for that animal.
I dont want to live on this planet anymore for the bearded dragon
In the uk they only sell flying saucers or like a 3 inch wheel
I love your black cat
My brother when he first got his teeny tiny baby hamster for about a month used a critter trails cage because she was new and smol
the third one, positively perfect was great, but the wheel...the wheel i believe looked a bit too small.. i’m not sure because it’s just a picture, but by the looks of it, it looked like a 4.5 - 5 inch wheel, i’m not sure though!! just wanted to ask? please reply so i know! i’m watching this very late ik 😂 but i’m a new subscriber 😁
I my country 112 gallons is the smallest sized tank that it is legal to keep a single adult beardie in. Anything smaller than that is considered harmfull to the animal, both because there is not enough room for this active lizard to move, and because it is not possible to provide a good enough environment in it. Just sayin.
Love your hair and headband!
Sand can cause impaction of the femoral pores in male beardies (females dont have those). You can give them regular baths, but thats no guarantee to prevent it. I'd also say all of those cages are too small for adults.
hey munchie, just for future reference a lot of the information you’re saying about the bearded dragons is really wrong.
I can tell you did some research but most of it is incorrect.
Bearded dragons can never 👎🏼 be kept on sand calci-sand or not. the problem with sand is yes they eating it but also it can clog their femoral pores that can cause leg and back damage.
bearded dragons also live up to 20 years so a 1.5 year old bearded dragon is juvenile.
Bearded dragons shouldn’t be kept on sand OR carpet. There are plenty of better options like tile, shelf liner or paper towel
The third beardi you reviewed you said it had an “almost perfect” tank but it’s actually pretty bad, the tank isn’t large enough, again the beardie is on sand, there isn’t anywhere near enough enrichment.
the 4th bearded dragon you were trying to figure out how old she is and you said “you can tell she’s an adult from how filled out her tail is”that’s not how you age check a beardie that how you weight check them.
and the next beardie breaks my heart, i love your videos but the misinformation is so damaging, that tank is way to small.
You literally said it was a perfect set up for a jubilant bearded dragon and yet beardies need 55 gallons and up. 40 gallon breeders are the absolute bare minimum
I use a 125 gallon fish tank for my 3 female mice they have everything they need I love seeing when people have a good cage and setup for mice often they have such a bad cage it’s 😭 I loved seeing that ikea detolf cage :)
I just seen a dwarf on Craigslist in the smallest cage ever, now I’m sad, I went on Craigslist to see if people are really that bad and the cage is so tiny, and this other add has three hamsters, separate cages, one is a 20g tank and the other two in separate 10g tanks, it’s so sad
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