Are Modern Motorcycles ACTUALLY Better? Triumph Street Triple 765 vs 675
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i've owned all the generations of street triples and i can say that the bike has improved a lot and it's really hard to improve a product which is already near perfect but triumph never dissapoints !
I agree. Comparing naked bikes isn't a good example. The original street triple is no where compared to the new one. I didn't like the first street. I owned a speed and street. Anyway, if you compare supersport bikes then yeah very little difference for the most part.
With respect, they have the ugliest headlights an wind deflectors of any street bike on the market. It needs an under cowling of the headlight to give some balance to it.
@@spartanx169x Mate that new headlight is aggressive and mean AF looking!!
It’s a “Naked Bike”.
It’s derived from the street-fighter era (chopped up sportsbikes).
It’s supposed to look stripped back.
I had a first gen 675 hate the new ones , dont care how fast they are , they look shite
@@philipheron3429 you obviously like the triumph heritage look, and that’s ok. But a lot of people like a more sporty modern look, and this for me, looks incredible in the yellow.
Great video my guy. As a Triumph simp and Daytona apologist, I wanted to chime in:
I think since Triumph has discontinued the Daytona, the Street Triple had to become more aggressive as the years went on. The middleweight category has become very competitive and very sporty (MT09, Duke 890, etc.), so the Street Triple has had to play double duty. It needs to be a comfortable and usable naked bike, but aggressive enough for track duty (since the Daytona doesn't exist anymore).
As the Moto2 engine supplier, the "track to street" product makes more sense with a sportier triple as well. Same displacement, same character, but usable. The street triple used to be the "comfortable naked" version of the supersport brother Daytona. Where as now, it's a stand alone product that has to fulfill a lot of rider desires.
I think the fact that Triumph still uses the 2013+ frame with minor changes tells you everything you need to know. The bones of the bike are fundamentally the same. It's a Daytona frame, it will always feel good no matter if there's slightly less up-spec components or no TFT display. 107HP sounds pleasantly usable in this day and age, and the 675cc triple just howls and sings.
Fuck off, Yammienoob, everyone still remembers what you did to Spite! Sai cachorro, vai, vai!
Amen to all of that! The Trident kindof fits the bill now as the entry point. Would have been cool to include it in this video in hindsight…
Hope you’re good!
Agreed this does make sense
My first Triumph was a 2010 Street Triple which was a fantastic bike. I kept it for 5 years and crossed Europe on it. I loved that bike. In 2015 I was tempted by an R model and it was a terrible decision, didn’t get on with the suspension at all and only kept it for 2 years before getting a Tiger 800. The Tiger was an improvement but didn’t give the excitement of my original Street Triple, so I swapped it at the start of 2020 for a new Street RS. I was apprehensive about another bike with race suspension as I only ride on the roads but I shouldn’t have been. I’ve dialled the Ohlins suspension back to “comfort” and it’s fantastic even on lousy Yorkshire roads. The up & down quick-shifter is wonderful, no more left wrist pain on long rides. The extra 15-20bhp over my original Streetie is really noticeable… I don’t need any more power than my RS offers.
I suppose if I was to nitpick about the new bike then I’d say that I don’t like the TFT dash (but only because it doesn’t offer a simple sweeping rev counter that is easy to read) and I don’t need rider modes. These are minor quibbles. I bought the bike outright at the end of the PCP finance, it’s a long term keeper.
It would be interesting if I got the opportunity to ride my old bike but I suspect it would take the gloss off it so better that I never do and just remember it for the wonderful machine that it was that really cemented my love of bikes for the future. The newer bikes are clearly evolutions of that bike, lightweight, nimble and a lot of fun.
I think when I bought my original Streetie, it was £6k new. My RS was £10.5k also new. On the face it seems like a jump but it’s worth remembering that 10 years passed and basically every component on the new bike has been upgraded so I think Triumph have made big steps forward when they could have rested on their laurels as other manufacturers have done given how well the original Street Triple was received back in the day
This was quite a long read but do appreciate the detail.
Yeah I’ve got the 2010 street R and hated the suspension. Until I got it setup for my weight and style. It transformed the bike beyond recognition. I loved it.
@@10secondsrule Yes maybe with suspension tuning mine would have been good too. I’m fairly lightweight and it just felt that the suspension on the front forks did nothing, all of the imperfections of the roads going straight into me. After an hour of riding I always felt battered. It’s not a problem that I had on my standard 2010 bike or have with my 2020 RS. It shows how personal a bike is. If that R had been my first Street Triple, it would have likely been my last too. By no means a bad bike, but it wasn’t right for me
I was thinking the same thing.
Well, to me at least, it seem a little unfair to compare a standard 675 to a 765RS. I think a better comparison would be the 675 Rx (or at the minimum the R). I have the 2014 Street 675 R (no ABS) and I love it, enough power for real world use and aggressive enough to have fun on the hills. I haven't ridden the 765 to compare. Still a good review. Thanks
The 2008 Street R is still the best looking!! Can't beat the round headlights!
What??? Noway
Did they do an 'R' in 2008 ?
@@garysteven7896 You're right, there was no 'R' until 2009. I had a white 2008 non-R.
I also prefer the old look. Had a 2010 speed triple. These are the best looking bikes ever made
I would totally get the "old" 675 with a blipper and ABS over the latest Version.
Don't need any more power and less bells and whistles are a plus to me. 👌😊
I've got the 2012 triple r and I love it. Electrical problem at the moment but I will get it sorted from the uk 🇬🇧 👍
I find myself asking the same. There’s a 2013 STriple 675 for sale at a very attractive price at a local dealership with just under 40,000 miles clocked. I wonder if it’s advisable to buy a secondhand bike with that much miles on it.
I just bought the 765 S 2018 model, and i go to triumph dealer in my city and the new is just a minor upgrade, for me that i use only for urban streets i dont need more , i just made a remap and change the exhaust , just this minor upgrades give 122 hp. Sorry bad english, i am from Brazil.
@@adym15many more out there with less miles. All you get at the dealership is convenience
i own a 675r 2013 and definetly going to add a quickshifter and the ABS comes stock. Too bad for the blipper but seems like perfect bike shouldn't exist :)
I have a 2012 Street Triple and I just love it. The suspension is the most notable thing compared to newer bikes, it doesn't handle the bumps so well, but that aside, it's an absolute blast to ride. I hired a new MT09 recently and it just lacked the thrills a Street Triple gives you. If you're in a position where you can afford an old one but need finance for the new one... just save your money. the old ones are great.
100% a cope on your end. The MT-09 is infinitely more fun to ride than the street triple and the vast majority of people agree. You have greater reliability and at a cheaper price. The MT-09 destroys the street triple in almost every area except maybe handling.
@@DB-sd3cw MT09 handling is shit. It means a lot
Exactly the spot I’m in… an older model for cash or figuring out the difference for a new one.
And I hate finance/paying interest 😂
I own a 2022 street triple rs, and a 2012 daytona 675r.
In my opinion, the old is still good, but I do like my modern bikes. Love them both.
For me the street triple has been the perfect, the best all round bike ever i ve been wanting one for such a long time no other bike has won my heart so much, i am a big fan of triples the sound, the torque, the power. I test rode the new 2023 trident but the newer ones are way outta my budget so i'll hopefully get a 2014 something Street triple 675 soon and wouldnt care about any other bike ❤ Edit- finally got a 2014 same white like this one
Having owned a Daytona 675R, I'm more than a little partial to the 675 over the 765. Especially since Triumph discontinued the Daytona.
In the old one you can see an oil leak through the filler cap(3:09). The tradition continues to this day.
My 2023 RS continues this tradition too. A bigger sealing will fix this issue
I've owned and loved my history with the Street Triple, (2009 675R, a 2015 675R and now a 2022 765RS) , I am a big fan of the 3 cylinder layout and while the 675's where great the new 765's are, IMO a great leap forward.
I am also a super fan of the MV Brutale, 800RR.
Thanks for the thought provoking review! This is exactly the type of comparison manufacturers don't get excited for. You rarely see these in automotive media. Really appreciate your inregrity.
I would Get the round headlight conversion kit. Makes the bike look so much nicer.
Proud owner of first generation! Present 64 k on tachometer, arrows can, kn, fuel map,brembo radial master 19, lion accu, larger starter wire, throtle tube from speedy, goes like hell! Love that piece of metal
My son purchased a 2016 (same Gen) Street triple with 2,400 mi on it for $7,000 American. I got that cosmic yellow RS for $14,000 after accessory tax. They're both brilliant! I do prefer the shape of the older gas tank which also holds another half a gallon or so. It really helps the range.
I think they're the best two generations to get as the middle generations tend to interfere with traction control and ABS without the 6-axis IMU.
I also think the older generation sounds better with the stock muffler.
If you want to save some money, don't sleep on that older generation! Great bike!
I'm this close 🤏 to sell my 2021 Mt09 Sp to get a Ducati Street fighter 848 2012. I miss the feel and character of older bikes
What's a street fighter 848? A ducati?
@@512460that's what the man says
I know your comment is 8 months old, but did you go for the 848? I've recently sold my KTM 890 duke and have fancied the idea of getting that bike. If you got it, how have you found it to live with?
@@rossm9676 Great comment! No i haven't sold my Mt09. I've recently rediscovered my bike and like it even more. An 848 seemed cool before but the fact that its not that user friendly and costs more to run and maintain quickly brought me back to reason
Cool video. I still have my new 2013 675. It’s a nice bike. I put about 90,000 miles on it so far. I don’t ride it much now.
You put 90k miles on your new 2013? Jesus Christ you can't be from the US. You'd have to go coast to coast almost 30times. I'll never have that chance. I thought 6k miles a year was alot.
6K miles a year?
Lol, you don’t have a motorcycle man, you have a beautiful garage display
@matthewhill3996 The average American does about 3k miles a year on bike. Sportbikes much less. I do about 12k which is what most do in their cars. But I'm not sticking up for this idiot. If my full-time job involved motorcycles I'd and the bikes he gets for free I'd be going around the world. In 09 I did a cross-country trip on a 600RR and did almost 6k in a month.
@@davidlagno7717 SF Bay Area.
I had just as much fun on my sports bikes in the 1980s if not more! The main difference is that the roads have changed and there are few places you can really enjoy riding at a decent pace anymore unless you live in a remote region in some countries.
Exactly - a lot more traffic, roads in disrepair, more cameras than a camera shop and police with no sense of humour.
No wonder we dream of the good old days (those of us that were there).
@@itsmeagain1745 Ah the good old days😂
I’ve been riding for over fifty years; are motorcycles better now than fifty years ago? Fifty years ago I couldn’t have even dreamed about the bikes in showrooms today . . .
They aren't any better from 25yrs ago as far as performance. You just have more buttons to push and you can hook your cell phone up to it.😂
@davidlagno7717 The average liter bike 25 years ago had much less hp than todays liter bikes. Not to mention, we now have things like the h2 and v4r.
@Fizzglg Thanks for letting me know that 👍... I've owned about 15 liter bikes over the years and I didn't notice.
I've had my 23(24 here in the USA) STR RS for a couple of months now and it's the most fun bike I've owned so far. The handling is wonderful, the brakes are fantastic and it just looks beautiful. I'm thoroughly enjoying riding around the Colorado Rockies on my STR. My only complaint is the dash. Kind of hard to see some things. It could have been much better.
I’d pick an MT09 or 890Duke for road riding, definitely the street for track. I think triumph have made the new street and speed triples too track focused. Great bikes as they both are.
I've owned all three of the bikes you've mentioned. Hands down, the Street Triple is the best of the lot. Love it on the street and track.
@@kawabunga660 The Triumph has some great components and is better looking. Maybe it is the better bike. 🤔 However, it’s nowhere near as much fun on the road as either the MT09 or 890 duke. That not saying the street isn’t fun but it’s set up very different.
I have plenty of fun on an older street triple and now a newer one. Maybe not as rowdy as the duke but more capable imo
@@fudawgable I glad you enjoy your Street triple, you have a great bike.
just test rode the KTM 890R and 2023 765 back to back. The 890R runs out of RPM so fast and just lacks any type of refinement. Feels like a tractor when you step onto the 2023 765 RS.
Loved my st-r 2014 with a quickshifter slip-on and a r6 throttletube..rev it out and see the blue lights and the great sound of the triple❤😂😂
Great comparison! I've had both models plus the 2017 R and 2020 RS, I've got the 2023 RS and I think it's the best bike I've owned and that's from RD250s, RD350, RD400, RD350LC, NSR250, RS250 Aprilia, CBR600 and three different Fireblade models R6s, R1s and various GSX-Rs but the Street triples are so comfortable with all the sportiness you need for the road, when the original street triple was launched in 2007 it was an instant hit with every bike journalist not to mention bikers and won MCNs bike of the year, for what was basically a 675 Daytona with the fairing removed it had no right to be such a brilliant street bike but was at the time the most fun you could have on a bike and really took the biking world by storm.
The STR is the bike that I fell in love with. When I saw them the first time, I loved it. When I first heard the 675, I knew I had to have one. Know it’s biased, but the 675 will always sound better to me. That perfectly matched downshift never fails to send my heart to 14k rpm.
i ride the 675 r '14 and as good as that bike is. when testriding the latest one. it has improved so much! it is more sporty in seating which makes turning in soooo easy compared to the old one. i think for longer boring highway rides i would prefer the older model for the comfort. but if you ride it for fun and pleasure, can't go wrong with the new one.
Love my 2012 Black and Gold STR
Are new bikes better than old bikes. Very leading question. Basically depends on the person concerned. Not the bike. If you are the sort queuing outside the shop waiting for the latest Apple phone. Then new tech it is. If you are an average rider that just wants a fun cheap ride. Probably older bike. A lot of the modern tech is amazing. But not really necessary. A lot for the emissions crap. Some rider aids and safety aids. But if you look what sells the most. Simple. Cheap. Less technical motorcycles. Just look at the rise of Enfield. I have never had a motorcycle with any rider aids. Has it stopped me enjoying riding for the last 40 odd years. No. Would the latest high tech bike change my riding. No. Just cost me more to look after the thing. And way more to go wrong. So definitely rider defined.
Beautiful bikes STR❤I own a STR 675R color white pearl ,such a great machine ❤️Thanks God 🙏
Nice review on my favourite bike .
Yes unfair to compare new RS to a the standard 2013 model. Until 6 months ago I own 2015 STR from new , R has better brakes, higher seat hight due to better suspension. Arrow exhaust frees up power .
I test rode the 2017 RS when it came out , in my opinion wasn’t worth the step up trade . The improvement gap L bigger now of course .
I own a super duke evo but still miss the triple 675 character even prefer more than a big v twine . so bought a 2015 Daytona675 R as a 2nd bike for local roads and odd track day .
I like the feel and experience of the older ones
A lot of appeal in pre EuroV bikes too sound wise 🤙
Yeah I'm not doing track days and I'm no Street Rossi so I'd have the 2013 and spend the money I save on a can, a tune and a weekend away. Also if you look around you can get the old one with undertail pipes.
Safety features are better like ABS and traction control in newer models, but I think in general the build quality is poorer than 10-15 years ago. This generally applies for everything produced today tho. Got a 2017 CB500F with a lot of plastic parts and an okey quality feeling, but it's nothing compared to my friends 2005 CB500 with only metal parts and just the great quality feel it gives.
From 2009 to 2012 the Street triple had major issues with the Stator and rectifier from the factory. There is no way I would even consider buying a used one from that time period.
I have a 2014 and 2018 Triumph Street Triple.
The 675 engine is constantly leaking, and the camshafts in almost every engine after 30,000 kilometers show scratches.
In 765, after driving 30,000 km, I did not notice any leaks or scratches.
In my opinion, the build quality of the new street triples is much better.
October 2022 I bought my 1st Triumph. I bought a 2013 Trophy SE with 5150 miles for $8000 US dollars. Plenty of tech on this older, comfortable touring motorcycle, with plenty of pep. 132 HP on a 630 lb 😮😊😊
Oh and I like the triple!!!
Great review! I have a 2013 ST in Caribbean Blue. Hoping for a 2024/2025 STRS in a similar color...I'd definitely buy it!
The last new bike I had was a 2014 675r Daytona. Loved it. In year 6 I sold it and tried older used bikes and repair bills. Currently test road a 765rs that I’m eyeing, I would say that the 2014 675r Daytona is really close to this new bike in quality, componants. No tech screen and they are tuned differently I’m sure but the 765rs is amazing how you can ride in 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th in the same mph.
I've got a 2020 Street Triple 765 R LRH, which has excelled all my expectations, and has more than enough mumbo for street use.
Great video on an interesting subject. I ride on the road, not on track mainly, so if going for a new model it would be the R, but I'm also a value for money person, so I'd probably opt for the 675. Someone else has taken all that depreciation hit, and it has more power than you can use on the road and more ability than a noob like me. Use the difference to upgrade and set up the suspension and brakes if needed, use the change for fuel and fun.
5k miles in 10 years! What's wrong with people?
Finally: fewer electronics, fewer things to go wrong.
The way that little windscreen flops around I was wondering if it was gonna fall off.
That yellow on the rs looks amazing, I’d nearly pay the extra just for that haha
I have ridden a 2010 bug eyed street triple for 4 years and I loved it. I now have a 2016 Tiger Sport 1050. I recently could testride a 2023 street triple R and it was like coming home. A lot of the DNA of that chassis and even engine was still the same. The suspension was a lot better on the new one. (I upgraded rear suspension on my old triple, because it was just not good enough) . I liked the cable throttle directness of the old bike over the ride by wire of the new, and I have no need whatsoever for different riding modes. I prefer the analog sweeping tag with the blue warning leds over a digital screen. So for me, an old sorted street triple will give as much fun and quality on the road today as the new one. But you have to upgrade the suspension. But I would be VERY happy with the new one. It has always been a fabulous bike. I miss mine
Own a 2010 Street triple R black and gold. I love it. Iv’e been a Harley rider for years but went back to a more road worthy street rider and I love the power over the dog twin..
The base model 2013 is lower than the new models. I also prefer cable actuated throttle over ride-by-wire because the latter doesn’t feel as responsive, like the computer is trying to figure out what you want to do.
Had a 2012 r from New and I still love it plus as now at the age of 65 being small light and upright works in every way . New ones if I had lots of cash would be an addition
Motorcycles havent gotten much faster since the mid 2000s. They have gotten easier to ride and electronics keep plebs from yeeting themselves to the moon... Analog bikes are way more fun to ride.
I own the 2014 streety R and had the new 1200 Rs for a test run, it’s a great bike but in comparison with my streety i felt kinda like it’s to much going on to much electronics it felt disconnected to the rider, a problem that many newer bikes have (at least in my opinion)🤷🏼♂️
Looks like my next bigger bike will be a 1098
Honestly, I can't think of many ways Triumph could possibly improve from here. I used to hate the striple's looks, but they fixed that IMO. I'm thinking about maybe trading in my XSR900 for a 2024 street triple RS next year, the only concern I have left is reliability. If Triumph could reach or at least approach japanese levels of dependability, they would be perfect in my eyes.
I did it, i switched from new xsr900 to street triple, absolutly no regrets, best decision ever
Are you kidding me on??
Triumph are arguably the most reliable European brand out there.
The new Speed 1200rs has a few issues (like the 1290 Superduke has) but that 765 is sorted!!
@@filipparadahow do you feel with the power delivery,, torque, in comparison with the CP3 ? Looking at Trading my Tracer 9GT for a RS....
@@VFactory-vl5fi *european* being the operative word there. Not exactly hard to come out on top when it's the likes of KTM and Aprilia you're competing with. German magazine "Motorrad" had their loaner 2019 Street triple drop a valve and blow up TWICE during their testing. I've also personally witnessed clutch/gearbox issues with Street triples on more than one occasion. It's the kind of thing you just don't see with japanese bikes and it makes me slightly nervous about owning one. I get paranoid about that kind of thing, I can't enjoy a bike when I'm constantly on the lookout for mechanical issues and listening for weird noises. On the other hand, I'm hoping they've since sorted most issues with the 765, all the Moto2 experience should probably help.
@@patrickrosello9583 from tracer to this you will feel much better power delivery. I own xsr and test ride tracer9 than when i ride st765rs i fall in love. Much more nimble, precise and smoother bike, also attention to details and finish is much better
Going with the first half of the title (which would be a more interesting video): Pros and cons. It's nice being able to work on a vintage bike or car with (mostly) standard tools and the ability to repair everything yourself... and not worrying about an electronic component malfunctioning or randomly dying.
Ive got the 2013 street triple r with no ABS. Its cliche to say but it is pretty much a "do it all" bike...except superbike high speeds and acceleration. Ive not ridden a 1000cc superbike but I dont feel like im missing out too much. Im wanting to ride the track more this year and struggling to decide between tweeking the street triple a little bit or getting an old 600 track bike. Roll on spring!
Great review. I had a 2015 Street Triple as my second bike and loved it, the only downside I found was being 6'1" and 16st it was a bit too compact but I did 5k in a year and loved it overall. Currently got a 2017 Z1000SX which has helped with comfort, despite the seat from hell but honestly, after this review and that of the R model I think I will be back on a Triumph sooner rather than later.
i have had a 2015 street triple r for the last year best bike I've ever had if I could marry her I would best handling and best looking bike ever ( white with red sub frame and rad cowlings )turns heads wherever I go
I agree, I had a 2014 675r for 6 years until last year. The white was stunning, especially in the sun. I regret selling mine, it's definitely my favourite bike and I now have a 2023 cosmic yellow rs. The simplicity of that era 675r with only abs, somehow makes it great. It's easy to service at home too, if you're mechanically minded and have dealer tool software you can do everything. 😊
When are you covering the Hero Harley X 440? Would love to hear from your perspective…
Both bikes are really good-looking bikes. I prefer something a little more versatile. But that's one of the reasons why I'd rather have a newer bike it's just for the extra safety features and options. I like the electronics on the newer bikes. I like switching between different moods. Even on my f800gt has shift-on-the-fly for comfort sport and normal. When you shift them you can barely notice any difference just the dampening. But I still do because I can.
I have a 2004 GSXR 1000, and test rode a 2023 Triumph Speed Triple 1200 RR.
I think it's the electronics, and probably a bit of ergononics, but it felt slower and just sapped a bit of fun out of the ride for me.
Tech Tech, lots of Tech !!!
And for the older bikes, the old school analog is absolutely perfect.
Ride safe, ride forever !
Cheers !
great seeing the youngsters chatting. As though 2013 was some distant past😂
2012 R model in Black & Gold. Bought new as first street motorcycle. Still have it. Still don't have enough skill to extract 100% from it, along with 90% of riders out there....who think they need more spec.
I would appreciate it more if you compared the base 765 model with the 675, not the super-tuned "RS" version. I keep on wondering how a 675 would compare with a few suspension upgrades and engine tuning.
I also hate the fact that the seat high on a naked street bike has gone so up, that matches that of some big adventure bikes.
Come on Triumph... if you want to build a bike THAT much track - oriented, just bring back the Daytonas.
As for the electronic gimmicks, I couldn't care less. The only thing that I find actually useful is having a rain mode when the bike is more than 110 hps. Just don't forget to put on that f*ckin fuel meter! It's 100 times more useful than any other high-tech gimmick!
Less tech means less to go wrong.
It's gonna be interesting when this CF moto 675 triple comes out. They're claiming more HP and TQ than the late Daytona. I test rode the original Street Triple back when I had a 07 600RR and I even asked to try a 2nd bike just to be sure. I wasn't impressed at all compared to the power delivery and lack of top end rush compared to my Honda. Same with the Daytona although I thought the chasis was perfect but I'd take the 4cyl rush over the 3cyl. But that's just my generation.
Have a 14 675r...the new 765rs is tempting but ill stick.
6:59 Brembo cocktail with a slice of an orange is a quirky last minute no thought given addition.
Going from an 08 Street triple to a 2023 model was like using a smartphone vs a nokia 3310
Great video, I have the 2013 R and looks like I'm going for the 2023 RS.
I’ll be going for a used one without a doubt, but not such an old one. A used 2020 R Model would be perfect.
I have a 2014, and always leave the dealership thinking I like what I have better than what they have.
Was hoping for more of a decisive conclusion... which one would you pick and why? You could have given 2 options for the same price, new 765 or used 675 and used Suzuki GSXR750! You didn't give your opinion on which is the better road bike, insurance costs, road tax (as one is under 750cc), ULEZ compliance, anticipated resale value with another 4000 miles in 2 years time etc. Would be interested to find out. I have a 2017 Ducati 1299 and 2013 Yamaha R1, the R1 is a much better road bike but more expensive to insure!
is this a disguised ad for the new ST?
Interesting comparison. I'd be curious how Carol from the Banditmanuk channel would compare the two. Personally a little less tech and a bit more comfort combined with a tad more power in some sharp colors will always be the best combination.
Comparing a S bike from 10y ago to a brand new RS bike just makes all of this a waste of time and basically a totally pointless comparison, which it turned out to be. And all thats BEFORE counting in the fact that the new one also has a totally new and bigger/more powerful engine. Just...why?
Should have compared the 675 with the 765r
Great video! Good work!
I just love the way the new one looks
Modern motorcycles are better for a purpose of a particular kind, but most of them are not better for everyday use. And that is the problem with the modern motorcycle in my opinion.
Taking inflation into account, would be interesting to also consider VFM
Being 5'6" and owning a 2014 STR, the taller seat height on the new 765s are a massive deal breaker for me. I don't ride that often but when I do, I'd like the comfort of being able to reach the ground with both feet; and you still have to plan some meters ahead when stopping on an incline.
It's a shame there are hardly any options left for shorties.
They have the Low Ride Height versions, which I had being 5'4". But, I've moved on to normal ride height bikes and learning to put one foot down will do wonders for your riding enjoyment.
With Triumph, I'd worry you can't get parts (spares) for the 675. Seems as soon as Triumph stop making a model, they stop making parts the same day. Like, the last generation Bonneville head gasket costs $200 because they are so scarce that you can hardly find one. Mind you, that bike was made until 2017, and already you can't get gaskets for it.
Counting in mm sounds exhausting. A mm is as thin as a dime. You have to count in the thousands before you get anywhere. Have you heard of inches and feet? Great way to describe something human sized. 5.9 feet tall or less than 2 meters. My tiger 1050 is still king.
Counting in mm is much easier because you don’t have to deal with fractions for example what’s 3/8“ it’s 9,5mm, there must be a reason why a lot of machine shops or engineers (even in the us) use the metric system
675 already down the road by the time your TFT settled down!
I have an 09 street triple r and it's amazing only 6000 miles on the clock and for a naked no need for anything bigger unless a true mad lad
First bike was the street triple in 2008.
Last one is the moto2.
Yeah, it has change for the better.
I own a 2010 Street Triple and test rode a 765 RS at the the start of Summer. Interestingly, the salesman said I'd find the 765 totally different to the 675. But i completely disagreed. The 765 is just an evolution of the 675 and the Street triple DNA is in tact.
Did i end up buying the 765 RS? I didn't. Unfortunately 13 years have passed for both Triumph and me, so i found the comfort lacking in the 765 for my 6ft2in 48 year old frame and ended up buying a Yamaha MT-09SP.😂
All those rider aids (except for ABS) are only good for two things, riding at the very limit (hopefully only on the track) or in the rain.
So, if you are a hobby rider who never commutes and only rides on public roads you can skip the new features and buy used bikes from the 2000s up to the early 2010s respectively.
I for one ride a 2003 Aprilia Tuono (which doesn't even have ABS) only in very good conditions (never in extreme weather including rain) and I am very happy with it. Cheers
Yes the new one has 20hp more but it also weighs a full stone more! That kind of negates the power gains.
I didn’t connect with the 765RS like I did the 675r. Something about the throttle, basic electronics package.
nice, but I think the fairest comparison would have been with the 2013 675 R
My top 5 favorite motorcycles are cbr650r and zx6rr and zx4rr and ktm duke 790 and ninja 650 and r7 which out of those is the best first motorcycle
[Gov with the 650 ninja. You'll probably want to keep it. Very refined bike. ]
So, honestly, I don't NEED a 765 RS & I miss the low sound of a triple just about to get singing due to the new, improved 1-3-2 firing order (at least til 5,000RPM). But, 675 is plenty enough for the street. Nimble, light handling, easily modulated brakes, fair clutch pull, lots of smiles generated. Hmmm
i miss my 2014 Streety, but i love my 2023 streety rs moto2. 🤷♂️ but very different bikes
That yellow bike looks like someone attached dragonfly's head to a bike
Compared with an RS? Not fair. Well if considering a used bike, why not the pre- 2012 model? Looks better aswell! Well, in my eyes!
Thank you mr Bob!
i test rode a 2023 765rs and a 2015 675 daytona and the old daytona feels way faster tha the the new 765 does, feels alot less restricted
I’d love to see a review on that ruroc helmet you’re wearing. Didn’t have a great experience with mine i must say so curious what you have to say about it.
At 6:44 my heart just skipped a beat
Would be hard to justify getting a Trident over a used street triple
Late 1960s Honda CL450 vs 2023 CL500?
Similar power. More weight? No kicker. ABS and EFI. Better gearing for riding both dirt and slab?
1993 Honda XR650L and 1996 Suzuki DR650 vs 2023 XR650L and DR650? Uh...The headlight shroud has been updated? The DR's right handlebar switchgear is...different. Bold new graphics?
😂
At least the aftermarket is kicking butt for some of these motos with long production runs. Some people are now riding around on 60WHP DRs with fully-adustable suspension.
When is the ride review for speed 400 and scrambler 400x coming?
Absolutely they are better dude! The bikes are no longer as raw as they used to be, but the new bikes are more powerful, refined, and safer.
I drive a 2016 Street - has now 56.000 km on the odo. Last week I tried the new R. What should I say? I don’t like the brakes of the new one, I don’t like the clutch. And I didn’t feel much of a difference in power and torque the difference between the modes? Well. I liked the blipper and the design. But that’s not enough. So I passed to buy a new one (I really wanted to). Sure, it’s a gorgeous bike, the new one, but the difference to my current Streety is too small and not worth spending an additional 6.000 Euros or more. I’m looking for a current Speedy now. Or a KTM.
Ride the others back to back.... the new Triple has the refinement. I ave not ridden the older 675 model though.
I find this new vs 10 year bike a bit odd.
Question 1 should you trade the 10 year old bike for the new model?
Question 2 a 10 year old street triple or new trident?
Or bin the naked bikes 🏍 and go for the Tiger 🐅 ?
The trident is down on power even to a 10yr old street triple.
Go with the 10 year old bike especially if you can find a good R model, it will feel a lot better than the trident because of its fully adjustable from and back suspension, the radial brakes and the radial brakepump and last but not least because it has like 20 more horsepower but of course you loos all the fancy tec