Here in Japan The Trident is within $200 (U.S.D.) of the street triple s. Sorry to anyone who wants it, brought the last Street Tiple S in 🇯🇵 home with me last night. (Have a video on my channel comparing it)
I've a 2020 Street Triple R but was really impressed by the Trident, around town the Trident's the better bike and just as fast 0 to 60 mph, IMO it depends what you want the bike for, if you mostly do round town/commuting the Trident is perfect but if you want to push your bike to its potential the Triple R has that top end rush which is addictive.
I'm just 21 (yes i think that's young), and I've ridden R1,CBR1000RRR-SP, ZH2, Ducati Panigale V4, Daytona 675r, R6, Ninja ZX 10, ninja Zx6, Ninja 300, RE 350,Himalayan,650s, t100, and speed triple, i had owned a R1, but sold it for other reasons and investments, and got a cycle instead of the bike, and now i am looking forward to getting a Trident 660 , or the Triumph Speed triple, cuz even after riding all i have ridden, ( even been to track a few times) is that no matter what, 200hp is not needed , and all these bikes are great, these 200hp r1s , Panigales, e.t.c, are pretty useless from ergonomics, useless low end, in the street what i suggest is the street triple, or the speed triple . The trident is great too. Cuz : Such a beautiful sound , the exhaust sound changes as the rev increases , from sophisticated in the low to the roaring in the high , Mechanically (a mechanical engineer here) , and as a bike enthusiast, 3 Cyls are the best when it comes to power delivery, low end torque + top end rush , and due to triumphs T-plane crankshaft (perfect secondary balance) this thing revs very high for a engine that size , and reaches redline quicker than any I4... I've plenty experience, owned an R1 (sold last year and got a cycle), r6, zx 10r, the busa, Zh2, RSV4, panigale, cbr 1000, and z900 , daytona 675, street triple 675RS, RE bikes,and what not , but i find three cyls the best among inline 4s and 2s (Vs are better ). (Except some radicals i4s ).
@@raywite6665 You're absolutely right about the street triple being a second faster 0 to 60mph, what I should've said was the Trident feels just as fast (0 to 60) because of the way it revs out so quickly.
1)Street triple wet weight is 185kg 2)Brembo MCs brake levers, brembo master cylinder 3)fully adjustable suspension 4) 121hp(40hp more) 79nm (15nm more than trident) 5)better headlights in terms of visibility 6) better power to weight ratio. So it's worth the extra 3 grand
Superb comparison- pros and cons. Thank you! I would rather wait a bit, collect the extra money and pickup the Street Triple. Imagine spending the money on the Trident and six months down the line looking at every ST and feeling I should have bought the ST. A good pre owned 765 could also be better proposition to the Trident. As always, each to his/her own. Cheers
Have had the Trident for almost a year now. Great bike for good fun. Here in India, anything over 120 kmph is too risky n therefore, I guess Trident makes more sense. Yet, without a doubt Street Triple looks definitely better finished. One more thing, Trident got much more smoother after the first service.
Thanks for the review. Personal choice, but just sold a Street Triple S that was a few years old, had the 765cc engine and it was a brilliant bike to start with. Easy to ride if you keep the revs low, then mental mode with higher revs. If I had to choose between these, I would go with a low mileage 1-2 year old Street Triple - cheaper than the Trident and enough to keep you interested for more years as your skills grow.
Hi , I'm getting a very low mileage (about 7000 km ) street triple s 2017 , for a decent price , Im kinda a beginner myself with not much experience, have ridden the street 750 for about a year, I really like the striple but just confused if it'd be too much power, I don't push the bike as much as the roads in my country don't allow that to happen anyways , I can only push a bit on highways
I put a deposit on the Street Triple RS around the time you did the first test of the 🔱 and decided after watching to change the deposit to the trident. The RS is the better bike but unless you are a track day regular or live somewhere with minimal law enforcement you are never going to get full use of it in the UK. The trident is just as good for 90 % of the riding I do and still capable of being pushed past my meagre riding abilities I’m sure. A great little bike that seems to split opinions looks wise.
Nice review. One thing that I never see mentioned in reviews of bikes that are aimed at the new rider segment is that these bikes are also wonderful for older riders who are climbing down from the heights of the power/specs curve and just want to have fun on a bike, and who know how motorcycles should perform and how they should make YOU feel. At 67 years old, I'm not going to do any track days, and I don't necessarily have the coins for top-spec components in every department. I just want a well-engineered bike that is capable on the road and that doesn't pretend to be a race replica. A bike like the Trident really pushes my buttons - it has styling that echoes the classic bikes of yesteryear (I used to ride a 1973 Bonneville, and currently have a 2010 Moto Guzzi V7) but in a modern package with a sporty motor, more than decent suspension, great tires, and a well-balanced tech package that doesn't look like you're riding around with your television strapped to the triple tree. I can't wait to test ride one and see if I like it as much as I think I will!
Great vid! And for anyone shopping these two bikes, as my dad told me. "The best bike in the world is the one in your garage". So if your can, test ride both and decide yourself, ride safe everyone.
I have been playing 'ride 4' for like a month now and i have ridden almost every bike in it .........and hand on heart street triple rs is the only bike in the whole game so good that m tempted to buy one in real life. Its that good
Agreed. All the high horsepower naked bikes have the ugliest fronts now. I was considering going from a full super bike to a naked one since I'm not really going to the track, but 🤮 The every level bikes have a nice, simple front that looks great.
I have a Street Triple 675 and recently loaned a Trident from Triumph whilst I got my 12K service. I must say the bike looks great and Id imagine it would suffice if your just commuting around town and the odd ride in the twisties. I found the engine lacking in the low range, and also towards the high end of the power band. It also felt extremely light and 'toy-like' which i didnt enjoy at all, although the handling was great. Also the sound of the engine/exhaust left a lot to be desired, I suppose we have Euro 5 to thank for that. Having ridden it for a couple of days I was pleased to give it back for my baby. Personal opinion so take it with a pinch of salt but I much prefer bikes before they started putting a ton of electronic rider aides on them... 6/10 for me.
Wish Triumph would produce a larger capacity Trident [1050 motor for example]. Not everybody wants a hyper-naked so a comfy [but still quite sporty] bigger Trident makes perfect sense to me. Power would be around 125 to 135 hp mark with loads of bottom end and mid range grunt. Maybe one day.
As a Street Triple R owner I like the Trident styling and for the price is definitely a superb machine. I don't ride much in towns or cities so the Street Triple suits me better.
That Pause at 9:53 says it all to me. The Street Triple has to be the better all round bike. I wouldn't be disappointed with a Trident, its a great looking and sounding machine, but I think I would soon be longing for a Street Triple on those B Road rides.
Just got a trident…will be moving up to the Striple if I’m feeling like I want something more in a year or two. Thanks for the videos, helped me find out about the trident originally a year ago
I've bought the Trident great value for money, although I added Connectivity, heated grips, USB connection, mudguard extender and flyscreen. Put the price up a bit. Soon be adding an upgraded adjustable rear shock and quick shifter too.
I ended up buying a 2018 ST RS, was gonna buy a Speed Twin......but I could not resist the street after a test ride. It is WILD. Could not be happier with my decision. I ride it literally every chance I get and it outs a smile on my face each time.
Still, I cannot understand why did Triumph not use the 765 cc engine, tuned down for more torgue, in the Trident. It would have been a a great bike, even for more experienced riders who simply don't like high-revving engines and also ride with a passenger often.
I have ordered a Trident, based on being a returning rider (30 years), riding position, less stress on my wrists, and the Tech available (quick shifter, Bluetooth etc). Plus only 1 company would insure me for Trident, unlikely to get any for the Sreet Triple.
Nice comparison vid. I wouldn’t say the street triple is for the “more experienced” rider, people often use that phrase: “more experienced”, but experience doesn’t equal wanting all that extra stuff. I’ve been riding for God knows how many years and I’m sure I’d be just as happy with the Trident with it’s more rudimentary suspension setup etc; because, for me at least, experience doesn’t mean automatically wanting more tricks on my bike. Cheers 🤙🏻
Great comparison. I’m due to ride the Trident in the next few weeks, but have already ridden the ST RS - which was a great bike. The Trident appears to be a good choice for the money if you want something a little more ‘up market’ compared to say, an MT-07 (not that that is a bad bike at all!)
As always it depends on what you want from your motorcycle. I don't want a lot of perfomance, I don't want to go to track, nor racing on the streets. I want a modern nice-looking bike for everyday megapolis commuting. So I have my Trident 660 with a quickshifter and it suits me 101%, really :)
I’ve been enjoying my Trident for the last 3 weeks. I don’t do track days and I am definitely not riding with a “faster” group. In my case, the better components and speed/torque difference in the street triple does not justify the higher cost.
It's a fantastic bike! In my opinion the big reason to get the Street Triple is for doing an occasional track day. The Trident is SUPER compelling as a street bike though
i really like the way the Trident looks, the bug eye headlights on the Street Triple are not right at all. BUT, i would like something in the 100 HP range...so like a Trident RS where peak Torque and HP come on as low in the RMP range as possible hitting like 100 HP, add on a step up in shocks, and like the flat black paint with a blood red/pearl frame...that is the ticket right there. Sign me up.
I had the same dilemma. Beginner rider. Had a test ride on both. And liked both very much. And found it a really tough decision. Went for the Street Triple. The R version. Reasons for this: the Street Triple just felt just a bit more premium… The rear brake pedal is solid aluminium while the one on the Trident felt more…. Rubbery…. And it offered a bit more punch. And give me more to grow into. Price difference not too much. If they give me Trident 660 as loaner bike I will still drive it with a smile on my face. And know many people will be perfectly happy with it. Did not find the extra bucks for the RS worth it for me. I liked the analog/lcd combo on the R more and the other stuff is only more useful on the racetrack…… If only they slap a better TFT on the streety (with the crispness of the Trident) then I would be really tempted but the current version does not cut it for me.
Here in Australia the Trident is only sold in the learner 55 hp version. And in contrast to the UK, they can't be upgraded to full spec. Even if the change is possible (usually it's pretty easy), it's illegal to change a learner bike to a full spec bike - and if it's discovered then registration and insurance are deemed void and the rider/owner can face serious liability issues. It's a great looking bike and a pity that the importer only supplies the low spec model.
Can be derestricted, registered and insured in QLD Australia but can never be changed back and registered as LAMS (restricted). Lose all LAMS resale value.
Glad your sound recorded this time! I'd get a trident every time. I hate revving bikes and, after borrowing my mates street triple, you do have to rev it!
The street triple R makes more torque across the entire rev range compared to the Trident! You don’t need to rev it to have superior performance to the Trident.
I'll save my verdict until I've ridden the Trident on 7th May. I had the RS for a weekend last year and was left wanting one... still do. Maybe the little brother will have the Street Triple essence that I fell in love with... we'll see.
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Love the looks of both. But personally i would buy Trident and upgrade the suspension. Maybe that makes no sense but it has enough power for me
A lot hangs on this review - so no pressure then. Been thinking about which of these to buy so comes at a perfect time. Thank you. I’ll let you know after what I decide…😬
Here in the u.s. last years triple R models are on sale 7,999. Makes it pretty easy for me when they are that close in price. Personally you can't go wrong with either!
By the trident you can’t go to camping at the weekends with the second passenger I think so it is useless but it looks very good, modern retro which i like. I am looking a bike for that purpose and ducati scrambler is very expensive.
I'm bike shopping at the moment for my first bike, love the look of the trident from all angles, the street triple looks great too but for me I just really dislike the headlight/dash unit on how it sits on the bike and after watching this review I have taken the triple off my list, now I'm down too the trident and KTM Duke 790 🤔
@@markderby22 I have a Duke 690 it has very good torque but in traffic at low speeds low gears it rattles and jerks like fuck. It’s a single and I do love it however I rode the trident and did my test on that bike both mod1 and mod2, smooth bike lovely to ride for hours. I’m considering getting the street triple as it just sounds incredible and looks beautiful.
I just hope that the new Street Triple they're working on will further the gap between the 2 as it's about time for an update and it really does need to have one if they are to compete with the likes of the new Duke 890 and others. Fingers crossed for a 865cc engine and better ergos. MUCH better ergos. Namely riding position.
Good review , as always :-D As I suspected, and you seem to confirm, the Striple S is likely to be dropped. Once the Trident came out, well I just couldn't see Triumph selling many Striple 660 S's at just over £8K. I don't think they sold that many before the Trident, because they were quite an expensive A2 friendly bike to buy and insure. Non A2 riders on a budget would get a Striple R. Fuel about 0.73 Kg per litre. Oil possibly a bit more per litre. Water 1Kg / litre. I reckon the fluids on a Striple will be about 18 Kg. So dry weight plus about 18Kg = wet weight. So around 185 Kg ish for Striples.
Great comparison that was raking my head since the trident came into scene. Always wanted a ST but the power is a lot for Indian roads and hardly any tracks nearby to brush on your riding skills. Trident makes more sense but you term the power delivery as 'soft' which makes me wonder if I want that compromise. Guess I'll have to hop on each of em in a row and see for myself. Thanks for the pros n cons though. Cheers mate!
Excellent review. I'm not keen on the looks of both much. I nearly bought the R. With the rationale that I couldn't see the boggle eyed front end while riding. But was put off by the alarming increase in insurance compared to my CB650R. I think it was about £3,000 difference. Still, I'm testing the new MT09 soon, so may have a similar problem (clean licence 3 years' no claims (MT07 stolen by London vermin is the reason for not more).
Nice one Bob. Thank you. It’s interesting (and a much better comparison) using both models, in LAMS configuration. As for Australia and New Zealand we have had a detuned 660 street triple for over 7 years now. Now, with the inclusion of the Trident, AUS and NZ only get it in the LAMS setup limits for power. So both are the same in power and torque and the same wet weight. However the Street Triple (in this version) is $2,540 AUD ($1,400 €) more expensive ride away! Having ridden both back to back and if I was on a learner (LAMS) license I would definitely go with the Trident and spend the difference on the available upgrades. It’s a shame we don’t get the full power version of the Trident here like we do with the 765 Street Triple R and RS. 👍😎🇦🇺
I'm just 21 (yes i think that's young), and I've ridden R1,CBR1000RRR-SP, ZH2, Ducati Panigale V4, Daytona 675r, R6, Ninja ZX 10, ninja Zx6, Ninja 300, RE 350,Himalayan,650s, t100, and speed triple, i had owned a R1, but sold it for other reasons and investments, and got a cycle instead of the bike, and now i am looking forward to getting a Trident 660 , or the Triumph Speed triple, cuz even after riding all i have ridden, ( even been to track a few times) is that no matter what, 200hp is not needed , and all these bikes are great, these 200hp r1s , Panigales, e.t.c, are pretty useless from ergonomics, useless low end, in the street what i suggest is the street triple, or the speed triple . Cuz : Such a beautiful sound , the exhaust sound changes as the rev increases , from sophisticated in the low to the roaring in the high , Mechanically (a mechanical engineer here) , and as a bike enthusiast, 3 Cyls are the best when it comes to power delivery, low end torque + top end rush , and due to triumphs T-plane crankshaft (perfect secondary balance) this thing revs very high for a engine that size , and reaches redline quicker than any I4... I've plenty experience, owned an R1 (sold last year and got a cycle), r6, zx 10r, the busa, Zh2, RSV4, panigale, cbr 1000, and z900 , daytona 675, street triple 675RS, RE bikes,and what not , but i find three cyls the best among inline 4s and 2s (Vs are better ). (Except some radicals i4s ). Basically street triple : Agile track ready sport naked bike Trident 660: tourquey (low and mid) best commuter , and everyday use) Speed triple: Torque everywhere, features are top end, very good acceleration, awesome track bike, awesome top speed. I've seen people destroy R1s and ZX 10s using a speed triple in the corners, it's all about the skills
I like the trident better, although reckon may wait and triumph may bring out a R or RS model with like adjustable showa shocks and brembos. Like the Thruxton R.
I believe it is better to get a low milage Street Triple than a Trident if your budget is limited. I used to have one, it is a brilliant middleweight naked bike.
Another great video, I'm considering both of these and your review and comparison has helped me get away from spec comparison and get a feel for the more real life factor. Cheers excellently delivered as always! 👍🏼👊🏻👏
Love my 2016 Street Triple. I might get the new one with the low seat height one day, although the TE-1 looks amazing, I might save up for that, I'm a bit of an electric-head now.
great comparison video. my Trident is lying in showroom, was to be delivered on 19th but delayed till month end, due to registration process still pending.
Great explaination!👍🏼👍🏼 Full of practical information..One of the best motovlogger in youtube .. keep the good work brother..thank you..🙏 -from Malaysia
Just had a ride of a street 765 the other day, proper loved it. I like the look of the trident too but think 765 was perfect for the road, smooth as fuck and not so fast you'll risk losing your licence constantly but still pretty quick
Can’t afford either in India so I’m just watching for kicks. Having said that in a few years I’ll be able to afford one and if I’m spending so much I don’t mind spending that bit more for a Street Triple which just has more and also looks better according to me.
Triumph needs to make a 900cc Trident, tune the engine for midrange and give it too spec suspension and brakes and handling, make it bigger so normal people don’t look like they are riding a children’s bike. Keep the same display, only make it a bit bigger so easily read by older riders, make the bike top quality. So really a bike for older riders in their forties/fifties, a power bike that can be used every day and costs max £15.000 a bit like the Honda cb 1000r neo. I think such a bike would appeal to mature riders that have the cash to spend on a top quality bike.
I've had a go of a Striple RS, yet to get a ride on a Trident. I had a 2018 second hand Striple 660 derestricted to 94 BHP. The Striple RS was better, but below 7000 rpm, and road legal speeds the Striple RS wasn't that much better than a Striple S 660 94 BHP bike. So on the performance comparison of the two bikes here, I'm guessing up to 70 MPH there probably isn't much in it. You've tried them both, would you agree ? If that is the case, I guess point 4 for the Trident, is "If you only want to ride at road legal speeds, it's performance is almost as good as the Striple RS and you're less likely to get speeding tickets" :-D
Be cool to do Trident Vs new Mt07 video next. Neevesy really enjoyed the mt07 in his recent video and said it's probably the more fun bike overall (with the Trident being the better built).
@@motobob i second that, the mt07 is a good competitor, although maybe not as good value overall but depends on the riding experience as i think the mt07 will feel the more fun bike. Looking forward to this comparison now!
If street triple came with a round headlight, I would have bought it at once. Hate the front light dash module (from the side), the front looks ok though.
For that price on the street they really should put some down pipes on that are a bit more rust proof looks like it’s been dunked in the sea for a few months and they aren’t very accessible for cleaning if my 09 street is anything to go by
The Trident is a standard motorcycle while the speed triple is a naked sport bike. Shouldn't even compare the two as they are made for totally different group of riders. I bought the Yamaha FZ-09 and I get the best of both worlds. Great in the city and an absolute hooligan if you want it to be....
The 2 pot sliding calipers is what would push me toward to CB650 and even the suzuki sv650. 2 pot shouldn't be in the range and price point. The problem with the 2 pots imo is the maintenance involved. The sliding pins get gunked up with road grime and cause caliper brake bind. To maintain its remove caliper, clean sliding pins, re grease with lithium grease. Then they'll bind again after 500 miles only. Old stock, old tech.
Street triple. Used one will cost the same price or less than a trident but is so much better. How is this even a question? Only uneducated rider will go for trident.
Will the Trident power wheelie? If it will, i'd get that one. Otherwise? A used gen 1 Street triple R, please! That bike's just unbeatable fun for the money AND it has the triple roar. It's better looking than the newer Streets as well, IMO. In fact, i tried the Street triple R and the Speed triple (2009 or 2010 i think) on a demo and the Street was way more fun than the Speed! It just was! Lighter, more nimble and with a more entertaining engine. Also the Street R power wheelied on command as easily as the Speed did. The Speed triple felt old and stiff in comparison. This is from a 5'8"-5'9" guy with a good 17 stone/240 pounds.
Can't say I have ridden a Trident yet, but my fiance has a Street Triple RS, which I find is about 90% of what I as a long time literbike sportsbike nut need and, really, want in a bike. Taking her bike out on a few rides both by myself and with my riding buddies has changed what I am looking for in a sporting bike in a fairly substantial way-I'm currently trying to figure out if I need to sell my R1M and GSXR1000 to get a Speed Triple 1200 RS..... or perhaps even just sell one and get a Street Triple RS. At any rate, I understand where the Trident would be approachable and especially in times of shaky economies I understand that the low price point is real attraction. I can also see where, being based on the Street Triple series, Triumph would have to get basically everything wrong to make it a bike not worth having....... But, the Trident is what I see as a holdover bike-as in holds you over while you learn to ride and decide what kind of bike you're ideally suited for. In that way, it seems like less a deal to me because while the Street Triples are definitely on the sporty side, they are also excellent streetbikes that appeal to a much larger portion of the riding public for resale-the Trident will always be a 'beginner's bike' no matter how good it will be. The Tridents are capable from what I have read and watched, but the Streets are a hell of a lot of bike to grow into. My money as a younger or less experienced rider would still go to the Street Triples. Nothing on them really needs changed from standard, you can burble to work on a cold wednesday morning, take a weekend trip, or ride like a complete twat and not go any slower than most guys on liter sportsbikes down your local popular curvy road. In terms of the Experiences you can have on the Street series, I think there are more to be had and a lot longer period of time, if ever, before you feel like you need more bike. I don't say any of this lightly, I have three 200hp sportbikes sitting 20 feet away from me and I ride them hard enough to make the chassis flex, buck, and weave. Other than in a straight line, the Street Triples are just as fast thru the corners and I don't hurt after I get off of one. The Trident wouldn't be able to take me from where I could start out as a new or low time rider up to the limits of where the Street triple ends.. Which is quite high... I guess the best way to say it is simply to say that while the Trident might be the best bargain in entry level motorcyling, the Street Triples are the best bargain in Motorcycling.
@@drummer12films You won't be disappointed, but definitely get the RS version-the suspension and brakes are worth it. Factory suspension on the S and R aren't bad in the traditional sense and most riders can't articulate what makes the Ohlins shock and BPF forks on the RS "better", but trust me-they really are Better. The difference to you is that the front end isn't vague at corner entry as you pitch it in and approach the apex, it holds a line with more confidence, then tracks beautifully when you pin it coming out of the corner. It comes down to the sophistication of the damping in the initial part of the forward stroke-the front end is more "nailed to the road" rather than oscillating on bumps and pavement imperfection. It's really good shit on a $12k bike, especially if you beat the dealer up a bit. One thing I didn't touch on in my post is that one of the biggest reasons I like my GF's street triple is the tank range. It sounds like something silly to worry about for a sporting bike, and it's not the 50mpg I get tearing around in the country-it's that on my big bikes, all three hit reserve around 110 miles give or take. With her bike, I ride a half an hour, get off the freeway, fill up, do my entire 130 mile loop as hard on the gas as I want, and I have just enough gas to get home. On my liter-bikes, I hit reserve at the half way point and start sweating bullets if my riding buddies want to take a detour to a different route to change things up. We pull in for coffee at that half way point and I'm allways watching that damned fuel light. For weekend trips where you are out in unfamiliar areas, the street is a way better option-it still feels like a literbike in the midrange with it's short gearing, but it sips gas and has an actal gas guage with an estimate for miles to empty. Speaking of gearing, I have ridden it twice more since my original reply to this video with a buddy on his FZ-10 and V4 Tuono..... in a straight line, the Street Triple is a match for acceleration til about 110mph, you don't see that often with riding twisty roads..... and the Street is a lot easier to live with than either of those two. The leg room would be nice but the rest of the bike is so good you don't care. I hope you get one of these bikes, they really are that good.
@@nunyabidness9257 Man you don’t know how much I appreciate your comment. I’ve been agonizing over this for months now. The speed to 110 nailed it for me. Not that i’m only focused on speed, as I love ripping up corners just as much as the next guy, but hearing all your points is everything I needed to hear. Hard to get real world experience on these bikes without it being a track only review. I definitely have “outgrown” the ninja, and just want that sweet sweet triple motor underneath me, and enough power to keep me satisfied down the road. Having the better suspension setup and the extra go fast bits are a cherry on top. Cheers for taking the time to write all this out for a stranger on the internet, I salute you!
Just a thought, if they did a more semi retro model of the Trident, i.e lower tank, a more level tail - something along the lines of a Kawasaki Z900 retro..but obviously less expensive 🤔
you always want adjustable suspension.....unless you are absolute target weight of bike....i would pick the triple....for what it costs you get quite a bit more, well worth it if you can ride a trident you can ride the triple......resale will be better, better brakes are huge even in traffic, the suspension can be tailored to you personally which is huge in handling.....bigger tft display, more premium build, ...think of your really new to riding, no canyons, congested traffic, just a laid cruiser the trident could be good choice........soon as that fades you will be want the triple though......these bikes are that tough to ride......very stable machines, .......just for brakes and suspension alone the triple is something that would carry you for awhile where the trident seems after few months may get lil bored with it
I mean 147-150 mph top speed for the street triple, Idk about the trident but probably just as good just not as fast, I’d honestly go with a older 675... just saying
At 6'2" I'd probably have to have the Speed Triple rather than either of these. The both look great but Triumphs are a little on the small side. Oh well it's an excuse to buy a 180bhp hypernaked 😎
Trident looks great! I wish they offered the speed trip engine in a single headlight option.
me too !
There are conversion kits for it!
And a proper seat for 2 persons, too.
@@f1msch Really? Hmmm...I gotta say, I just couldn't buy the bike with those headlights, but this makes me think...🤔
me too, I wonder if they are going to bring out a higher spec trident
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Here in Japan The Trident is within $200 (U.S.D.) of the street triple s. Sorry to anyone who wants it, brought the last Street Tiple S in 🇯🇵 home with me last night. (Have a video on my channel comparing it)
I've a 2020 Street Triple R but was really impressed by the Trident, around town the Trident's the better bike and just as fast 0 to 60 mph, IMO it depends what you want the bike for, if you mostly do round town/commuting the Trident is perfect but if you want to push your bike to its potential the Triple R has that top end rush which is addictive.
I'm just 21 (yes i think that's young), and I've ridden R1,CBR1000RRR-SP, ZH2, Ducati Panigale V4, Daytona 675r, R6, Ninja ZX 10, ninja Zx6, Ninja 300, RE 350,Himalayan,650s, t100, and speed triple, i had owned a R1, but sold it for other reasons and investments, and got a cycle instead of the bike, and now i am looking forward to getting a Trident 660 , or the Triumph Speed triple, cuz even after riding all i have ridden, ( even been to track a few times) is that no matter what, 200hp is not needed , and all these bikes are great, these 200hp r1s , Panigales, e.t.c, are pretty useless from ergonomics, useless low end, in the street what i suggest is the street triple, or the speed triple .
The trident is great too.
Cuz :
Such a beautiful sound , the exhaust sound changes as the rev increases , from sophisticated in the low to the roaring in the high ,
Mechanically (a mechanical engineer here) , and as a bike enthusiast, 3 Cyls are the best when it comes to power delivery, low end torque + top end rush , and due to triumphs T-plane crankshaft (perfect secondary balance) this thing revs very high for a engine that size , and reaches redline quicker than any I4...
I've plenty experience, owned an R1 (sold last year and got a cycle), r6, zx 10r, the busa, Zh2, RSV4, panigale, cbr 1000, and z900 , daytona 675, street triple 675RS, RE bikes,and what not , but i find three cyls the best among inline 4s and 2s (Vs are better ). (Except some radicals i4s ).
0-60 they are a full second apart however that means little in real life traffic especially in the West /East ends =London. Traffic is savage.
@@raywite6665 You're absolutely right about the street triple being a second faster 0 to 60mph, what I should've said was the Trident feels just as fast (0 to 60) because of the way it revs out so quickly.
1)Street triple wet weight is 185kg
2)Brembo MCs brake levers, brembo master cylinder
3)fully adjustable suspension
4) 121hp(40hp more) 79nm (15nm more than trident)
5)better headlights in terms of visibility
6) better power to weight ratio.
So it's worth the extra 3 grand
Superb comparison- pros and cons. Thank you!
I would rather wait a bit, collect the extra money and pickup the Street Triple. Imagine spending the money on the Trident and six months down the line looking at every ST and feeling I should have bought the ST.
A good pre owned 765 could also be better proposition to the Trident.
As always, each to his/her own.
Cheers
Have had the Trident for almost a year now. Great bike for good fun. Here in India, anything over 120 kmph is too risky n therefore, I guess Trident makes more sense. Yet, without a doubt Street Triple looks definitely better finished. One more thing, Trident got much more smoother after the first service.
Street triple all day!
Thanks for the review. Personal choice, but just sold a Street Triple S that was a few years old, had the 765cc engine and it was a brilliant bike to start with. Easy to ride if you keep the revs low, then mental mode with higher revs. If I had to choose between these, I would go with a low mileage 1-2 year old Street Triple - cheaper than the Trident and enough to keep you interested for more years as your skills grow.
Hi , I'm getting a very low mileage (about 7000 km ) street triple s 2017 , for a decent price , Im kinda a beginner myself with not much experience, have ridden the street 750 for about a year, I really like the striple but just confused if it'd be too much power, I don't push the bike as much as the roads in my country don't allow that to happen anyways , I can only push a bit on highways
I put a deposit on the Street Triple RS around the time you did the first test of the 🔱 and decided after watching to change the deposit to the trident. The RS is the better bike but unless you are a track day regular or live somewhere with minimal law enforcement you are never going to get full use of it in the UK. The trident is just as good for 90 % of the riding I do and still capable of being pushed past my meagre riding abilities I’m sure. A great little bike that seems to split opinions looks wise.
Nice review. One thing that I never see mentioned in reviews of bikes that are aimed at the new rider segment is that these bikes are also wonderful for older riders who are climbing down from the heights of the power/specs curve and just want to have fun on a bike, and who know how motorcycles should perform and how they should make YOU feel. At 67 years old, I'm not going to do any track days, and I don't necessarily have the coins for top-spec components in every department. I just want a well-engineered bike that is capable on the road and that doesn't pretend to be a race replica.
A bike like the Trident really pushes my buttons - it has styling that echoes the classic bikes of yesteryear (I used to ride a 1973 Bonneville, and currently have a 2010 Moto Guzzi V7) but in a modern package with a sporty motor, more than decent suspension, great tires, and a well-balanced tech package that doesn't look like you're riding around with your television strapped to the triple tree. I can't wait to test ride one and see if I like it as much as I think I will!
Great vid! And for anyone shopping these two bikes, as my dad told me. "The best bike in the world is the one in your garage". So if your can, test ride both and decide yourself, ride safe everyone.
I have been playing 'ride 4' for like a month now and i have ridden almost every bike in it .........and hand on heart street triple rs is the only bike in the whole game so good that m tempted to buy one in real life. Its that good
Street triple looks like toothless from "how to train your dragon" 😄
i see no difference
I can't unsee it now lol
I felt Bumblebee! But toothless now too hehe
Agreed. All the high horsepower naked bikes have the ugliest fronts now. I was considering going from a full super bike to a naked one since I'm not really going to the track, but 🤮 The every level bikes have a nice, simple front that looks great.
Look on honda cbr600rr pc37 😉
YES! The content I’ve been waiting for since you announced it on IG! Thank you!! 😍
Was waiting for someone to do this for so long! thanks a bunch!
I have a Street Triple 675 and recently loaned a Trident from Triumph whilst I got my 12K service. I must say the bike looks great and Id imagine it would suffice if your just commuting around town and the odd ride in the twisties. I found the engine lacking in the low range, and also towards the high end of the power band. It also felt extremely light and 'toy-like' which i didnt enjoy at all, although the handling was great. Also the sound of the engine/exhaust left a lot to be desired, I suppose we have Euro 5 to thank for that. Having ridden it for a couple of days I was pleased to give it back for my baby. Personal opinion so take it with a pinch of salt but I much prefer bikes before they started putting a ton of electronic rider aides on them... 6/10 for me.
Wish Triumph would produce a larger capacity Trident [1050 motor for example]. Not everybody wants a hyper-naked so a comfy [but still quite sporty] bigger Trident makes perfect sense to me. Power would be around 125 to 135 hp mark with loads of bottom end and mid range grunt. Maybe one day.
As a Street Triple R owner I like the Trident styling and for the price is definitely a superb machine. I don't ride much in towns or cities so the Street Triple suits me better.
You bought the right bike Rob, fits your needs perfectly, I’d get the Trident too. Nice vid
That Pause at 9:53 says it all to me. The Street Triple has to be the better all round bike. I wouldn't be disappointed with a Trident, its a great looking and sounding machine, but I think I would soon be longing for a Street Triple on those B Road rides.
Just got a trident…will be moving up to the Striple if I’m feeling like I want something more in a year or two. Thanks for the videos, helped me find out about the trident originally a year ago
You really did a good job comparing these without any bias, has been the long awaited comparison video we've been hoping for. Awesome job!
im so so glad you've done this video, its exactly the quandary I'm currently having i just cant decide at all.
Awesome comparison. Ive always thought size wise the trident is much smaller but when you put them side by side it’s very similar.
I'm just personally in love with the street triples looks.
I've bought the Trident great value for money, although I added Connectivity, heated grips, USB connection, mudguard extender and flyscreen. Put the price up a bit. Soon be adding an upgraded adjustable rear shock and quick shifter too.
G'day BOB. Call it as you see it. Two great value bikes from Triumph. I ride a Street Triple R LRH, 2018, that's the one for me.
Great video mate.
I ended up buying a 2018 ST RS, was gonna buy a Speed Twin......but I could not resist the street after a test ride. It is WILD. Could not be happier with my decision. I ride it literally every chance I get and it outs a smile on my face each time.
Still, I cannot understand why did Triumph not use the 765 cc engine, tuned down for more torgue, in the Trident.
It would have been a
a great bike, even for more experienced riders who simply don't like high-revving engines and also ride with a passenger often.
3 years late, but the 660 fits into learner bike category in most markets
I have ordered a Trident, based on being a returning rider (30 years), riding position, less stress on my wrists, and the Tech available (quick shifter, Bluetooth etc). Plus only 1 company would insure me for Trident, unlikely to get any for the Sreet Triple.
Perfect bike for your situation 👍🏼
I want four reasons for the Street Triple. The Trident is great looking, though.
Nice comparison vid. I wouldn’t say the street triple is for the “more experienced” rider, people often use that phrase: “more experienced”, but experience doesn’t equal wanting all that extra stuff. I’ve been riding for God knows how many years and I’m sure I’d be just as happy with the Trident with it’s more rudimentary suspension setup etc; because, for me at least, experience doesn’t mean automatically wanting more tricks on my bike.
Cheers 🤙🏻
I'd go for the Trident..... I'm not looking for crazy speed.... I ride for fun.
Ace review as always Bob.
Trident is excellent value with all the good stuff and I love the looks - it's just so unique. 👌
Great comparison. I’m due to ride the Trident in the next few weeks, but have already ridden the ST RS - which was a great bike. The Trident appears to be a good choice for the money if you want something a little more ‘up market’ compared to say, an MT-07 (not that that is a bad bike at all!)
As always it depends on what you want from your motorcycle. I don't want a lot of perfomance, I don't want to go to track, nor racing on the streets.
I want a modern nice-looking bike for everyday megapolis commuting. So I have my Trident 660 with a quickshifter and it suits me 101%, really :)
I picked up a 2020 street triple rs today in the Matt black unbelievable bike ✌️👏
Looking at one but being a young rider insurance is killing it for me
@@DG-ig4wj I only have one years no claim on it and it cost me 370 and I live in Northern Ireland where insurance is scandalous 😔
@@connorstevens997 be happy with that, I was getting quotes of around 3k+ with 2k excess
@@DG-ig4wj that's wild, have you any points or anything 😂I am 27 also
@@connorstevens997 absolutely nothing 100% clean 8 years no claims. Maybe just where I live
Brilliant review & comparison. Love the straight talk professional delivery!
I’ve been enjoying my Trident for the last 3 weeks. I don’t do track days and I am definitely not riding with a “faster” group. In my case, the better components and speed/torque difference in the street triple does not justify the higher cost.
It's a fantastic bike! In my opinion the big reason to get the Street Triple is for doing an occasional track day. The Trident is SUPER compelling as a street bike though
So you're saying if you never do a track day, Tridents great?
I went for the trident 🔱, you can’t beat that price point. You get a whole lot of bike! Now it’s just a waiting game for me 😔 they said august..
My Street Triple R fully fueled is 189kg on the scales. So it weights exactly the same as the Trident
i really like the way the Trident looks, the bug eye headlights on the Street Triple are not right at all. BUT, i would like something in the 100 HP range...so like a Trident RS where peak Torque and HP come on as low in the RMP range as possible hitting like 100 HP, add on a step up in shocks, and like the flat black paint with a blood red/pearl frame...that is the ticket right there. Sign me up.
I had the same dilemma. Beginner rider.
Had a test ride on both. And liked both very much. And found it a really tough decision. Went for the Street Triple. The R version. Reasons for this: the Street Triple just felt just a bit more premium… The rear brake pedal is solid aluminium while the one on the Trident felt more…. Rubbery…. And it offered a bit more punch. And give me more to grow into. Price difference not too much.
If they give me Trident 660 as loaner bike I will still drive it with a smile on my face. And know many people will be perfectly happy with it.
Did not find the extra bucks for the RS worth it for me. I liked the analog/lcd combo on the R more and the other stuff is only more useful on the racetrack……
If only they slap a better TFT on the streety (with the crispness of the Trident) then I would be really tempted but the current version does not cut it for me.
Here in Australia the Trident is only sold in the learner 55 hp version. And in contrast to the UK, they can't be upgraded to full spec. Even if the change is possible (usually it's pretty easy), it's illegal to change a learner bike to a full spec bike - and if it's discovered then registration and insurance are deemed void and the rider/owner can face serious liability issues. It's a great looking bike and a pity that the importer only supplies the low spec model.
Can be derestricted, registered and insured in QLD Australia but can never be changed back and registered as LAMS (restricted). Lose all LAMS resale value.
I'm loving my 2022 Street Triple RS!!!
Glad your sound recorded this time! I'd get a trident every time. I hate revving bikes and, after borrowing my mates street triple, you do have to rev it!
The street triple R makes more torque across the entire rev range compared to the Trident! You don’t need to rev it to have superior performance to the Trident.
@@richardbrooks4549 to be fair, it was the 675 triple. But it really didn't seem torquey, so maybe the trident would seem really gutless then...
I'll save my verdict until I've ridden the Trident on 7th May. I had the RS for a weekend last year and was left wanting one... still do. Maybe the little brother will have the Street Triple essence that I fell in love with... we'll see.
Love the looks of both. But personally i would buy Trident and upgrade the suspension. Maybe that makes no sense but it has enough power for me
A lot hangs on this review - so no pressure then. Been thinking about which of these to buy so comes at a perfect time. Thank you. I’ll let you know after what I decide…😬
Here in the u.s. last years triple R models are on sale 7,999. Makes it pretty easy for me when they are that close in price. Personally you can't go wrong with either!
By the trident you can’t go to camping at the weekends with the second passenger I think so it is useless but it looks very good, modern retro which i like. I am looking a bike for that purpose and ducati scrambler is very expensive.
What I'd really love to know is how the Trident compares to a good condition Street Triple 675.
Streets 675 still way better imo. Ally frame. Better brakes.
I might be able to help with that one ;0) ...mind you, I am biased....
I am 62 just bought 2015 street triple 675 Diablo red fantastic bike can’t fault it 🤙 I am 5’11 trident to small 😬
I'm bike shopping at the moment for my first bike, love the look of the trident from all angles, the street triple looks great too but for me I just really dislike the headlight/dash unit on how it sits on the bike and after watching this review I have taken the triple off my list, now I'm down too the trident and KTM Duke 790 🤔
Had the Duke for a year and hated its low speed traffic manners. Very jerky. Test rode the Trident last week and what a difference!
@@markderby22 I ended up with a xsr900, I heard about the fueling issues with KTM but an aftermarket exhaust and a remap fixes it apparently.
@@markderby22 I have a Duke 690 it has very good torque but in traffic at low speeds low gears it rattles and jerks like fuck. It’s a single and I do love it however I rode the trident and did my test on that bike both mod1 and mod2, smooth bike lovely to ride for hours. I’m considering getting the street triple as it just sounds incredible and looks beautiful.
Totally enjoy your videos. Thanks! As a 60's plus motorcyclist, I'm sure the Trident would be great, if only I could get saddlebags! 😎
Very well presented mate!
I just hope that the new Street Triple they're working on will further the gap between the 2 as it's about time for an update and it really does need to have one if they are to compete with the likes of the new Duke 890 and others. Fingers crossed for a 865cc engine and better ergos. MUCH better ergos. Namely riding position.
Considering the Trident's more Street/Touring/Daily-Driver oriented, I'll take the steel frame over aluminum for the better vibration damping 24/7
the engine looks very similar to that of my tracer, the rear suspension too.
Good review , as always :-D
As I suspected, and you seem to confirm, the Striple S is likely to be dropped. Once the Trident came out, well I just couldn't see Triumph selling many Striple 660 S's at just over £8K. I don't think they sold that many before the Trident, because they were quite an expensive A2 friendly bike to buy and insure. Non A2 riders on a budget would get a Striple R.
Fuel about 0.73 Kg per litre. Oil possibly a bit more per litre. Water 1Kg / litre. I reckon the fluids on a Striple will be about 18 Kg. So dry weight plus about 18Kg = wet weight. So around 185 Kg ish for Striples.
I bought the Street RS but I'm still waiting for it to arrive (ordered the first week of february).
Have a safe ride everybody ✌🏻
Great comparison that was raking my head since the trident came into scene. Always wanted a ST but the power is a lot for Indian roads and hardly any tracks nearby to brush on your riding skills. Trident makes more sense but you term the power delivery as 'soft' which makes me wonder if I want that compromise. Guess I'll have to hop on each of em in a row and see for myself. Thanks for the pros n cons though. Cheers mate!
Went to triumph factory visit day loved the trident!!!!
Excellent review. I'm not keen on the looks of both much. I nearly bought the R. With the rationale that I couldn't see the boggle eyed front end while riding. But was put off by the alarming increase in insurance compared to my CB650R. I think it was about £3,000 difference. Still, I'm testing the new MT09 soon, so may have a similar problem (clean licence 3 years' no claims (MT07 stolen by London vermin is the reason for not more).
Nice one Bob. Thank you. It’s interesting (and a much better comparison) using both models, in LAMS configuration. As for Australia and New Zealand we have had a detuned 660 street triple for over 7 years now. Now, with the inclusion of the Trident, AUS and NZ only get it in the LAMS setup limits for power. So both are the same in power and torque and the same wet weight. However the Street Triple (in this version) is $2,540 AUD ($1,400 €) more expensive ride away! Having ridden both back to back and if I was on a learner (LAMS) license I would definitely go with the Trident and spend the difference on the available upgrades. It’s a shame we don’t get the full power version of the Trident here like we do with the 765 Street Triple R and RS. 👍😎🇦🇺
I'm just 21 (yes i think that's young), and I've ridden R1,CBR1000RRR-SP, ZH2, Ducati Panigale V4, Daytona 675r, R6, Ninja ZX 10, ninja Zx6, Ninja 300, RE 350,Himalayan,650s, t100, and speed triple, i had owned a R1, but sold it for other reasons and investments, and got a cycle instead of the bike, and now i am looking forward to getting a Trident 660 , or the Triumph Speed triple, cuz even after riding all i have ridden, ( even been to track a few times) is that no matter what, 200hp is not needed , and all these bikes are great, these 200hp r1s , Panigales, e.t.c, are pretty useless from ergonomics, useless low end, in the street what i suggest is the street triple, or the speed triple .
Cuz :
Such a beautiful sound , the exhaust sound changes as the rev increases , from sophisticated in the low to the roaring in the high ,
Mechanically (a mechanical engineer here) , and as a bike enthusiast, 3 Cyls are the best when it comes to power delivery, low end torque + top end rush , and due to triumphs T-plane crankshaft (perfect secondary balance) this thing revs very high for a engine that size , and reaches redline quicker than any I4...
I've plenty experience, owned an R1 (sold last year and got a cycle), r6, zx 10r, the busa, Zh2, RSV4, panigale, cbr 1000, and z900 , daytona 675, street triple 675RS, RE bikes,and what not , but i find three cyls the best among inline 4s and 2s (Vs are better ). (Except some radicals i4s ).
Basically street triple : Agile track ready sport naked bike
Trident 660: tourquey (low and mid) best commuter , and everyday use)
Speed triple: Torque everywhere, features are top end, very good acceleration, awesome track bike, awesome top speed.
I've seen people destroy R1s and ZX 10s using a speed triple in the corners, it's all about the skills
I like the trident better, although reckon may wait and triumph may bring out a R or RS model with like adjustable showa shocks and brembos. Like the Thruxton R.
Wonderful review... many of queries.... answered.
Thankyou
I believe it is better to get a low milage Street Triple than a Trident if your budget is limited. I used to have one, it is a brilliant middleweight naked bike.
Another great video, I'm considering both of these and your review and comparison has helped me get away from spec comparison and get a feel for the more real life factor. Cheers excellently delivered as always! 👍🏼👊🏻👏
Wow thanks for this. I am thorn between these two.
Love my 2016 Street Triple. I might get the new one with the low seat height one day, although the TE-1 looks amazing, I might save up for that, I'm a bit of an electric-head now.
great comparison video.
my Trident is lying in showroom, was to be delivered on 19th but delayed till month end, due to registration process still pending.
Great explaination!👍🏼👍🏼 Full of practical information..One of the best motovlogger in youtube .. keep the good work brother..thank you..🙏
-from Malaysia
Just had a ride of a street 765 the other day, proper loved it. I like the look of the trident too but think 765 was perfect for the road, smooth as fuck and not so fast you'll risk losing your licence constantly but still pretty quick
Hey man thanks for your content.
What a question 😳
Street Triple obviously 🤣
Can’t afford either in India so I’m just watching for kicks. Having said that in a few years I’ll be able to afford one and if I’m spending so much I don’t mind spending that bit more for a Street Triple which just has more and also looks better according to me.
You just get that special awesomeness feeling from the street RS. Get one second hand with less that 5k miles on it.. much smarter choice IMO.
Triumph needs to make a 900cc Trident, tune the engine for midrange and give it too spec suspension and brakes and handling, make it bigger so normal people don’t look like they are riding a children’s bike.
Keep the same display, only make it a bit bigger so easily read by older riders, make the bike top quality.
So really a bike for older riders in their forties/fifties, a power bike that can be used every day and costs max £15.000 a bit like the Honda cb 1000r neo.
I think such a bike would appeal to mature riders that have the cash to spend on a top quality bike.
I've had a go of a Striple RS, yet to get a ride on a Trident.
I had a 2018 second hand Striple 660 derestricted to 94 BHP. The Striple RS was better, but below 7000 rpm, and road legal speeds the Striple RS wasn't that much better than a Striple S 660 94 BHP bike.
So on the performance comparison of the two bikes here, I'm guessing up to 70 MPH there probably isn't much in it. You've tried them both, would you agree ?
If that is the case, I guess point 4 for the Trident, is "If you only want to ride at road legal speeds, it's performance is almost as good as the Striple RS and you're less likely to get speeding tickets" :-D
Be cool to do Trident Vs new Mt07 video next. Neevesy really enjoyed the mt07 in his recent video and said it's probably the more fun bike overall (with the Trident being the better built).
Just waiting for Fowlers to get their 2021 MT-07 demo bike in. I believe it'll be a week or two at least
@@motobob i second that, the mt07 is a good competitor, although maybe not as good value overall but depends on the riding experience as i think the mt07 will feel the more fun bike. Looking forward to this comparison now!
If street triple came with a round headlight, I would have bought it at once. Hate the front light dash module (from the side), the front looks ok though.
For that price on the street they really should put some down pipes on that are a bit more rust proof looks like it’s been dunked in the sea for a few months and they aren’t very accessible for cleaning if my 09 street is anything to go by
just bought the street triple s A2 License i just much prefer the look of the triple over the trident
The Trident is a standard motorcycle while the speed triple is a naked sport bike. Shouldn't even compare the two as they are made for totally different group of riders. I bought the Yamaha FZ-09 and I get the best of both worlds. Great in the city and an absolute hooligan if you want it to be....
I would have thought the Street Triple S would be a better comparison given they are closer in specs and price?
The 2 pot sliding calipers is what would push me toward to CB650 and even the suzuki sv650.
2 pot shouldn't be in the range and price point.
The problem with the 2 pots imo is the maintenance involved. The sliding pins get gunked up with road grime and cause caliper brake bind. To maintain its remove caliper, clean sliding pins, re grease with lithium grease. Then they'll bind again after 500 miles only. Old stock, old tech.
Street triple. Used one will cost the same price or less than a trident but is so much better. How is this even a question? Only uneducated rider will go for trident.
Will the Trident power wheelie? If it will, i'd get that one. Otherwise? A used gen 1 Street triple R, please! That bike's just unbeatable fun for the money AND it has the triple roar. It's better looking than the newer Streets as well, IMO. In fact, i tried the Street triple R and the Speed triple (2009 or 2010 i think) on a demo and the Street was way more fun than the Speed! It just was! Lighter, more nimble and with a more entertaining engine. Also the Street R power wheelied on command as easily as the Speed did. The Speed triple felt old and stiff in comparison.
This is from a 5'8"-5'9" guy with a good 17 stone/240 pounds.
Can't say I have ridden a Trident yet, but my fiance has a Street Triple RS, which I find is about 90% of what I as a long time literbike sportsbike nut need and, really, want in a bike. Taking her bike out on a few rides both by myself and with my riding buddies has changed what I am looking for in a sporting bike in a fairly substantial way-I'm currently trying to figure out if I need to sell my R1M and GSXR1000 to get a Speed Triple 1200 RS..... or perhaps even just sell one and get a Street Triple RS.
At any rate, I understand where the Trident would be approachable and especially in times of shaky economies I understand that the low price point is real attraction. I can also see where, being based on the Street Triple series, Triumph would have to get basically everything wrong to make it a bike not worth having....... But, the Trident is what I see as a holdover bike-as in holds you over while you learn to ride and decide what kind of bike you're ideally suited for. In that way, it seems like less a deal to me because while the Street Triples are definitely on the sporty side, they are also excellent streetbikes that appeal to a much larger portion of the riding public for resale-the Trident will always be a 'beginner's bike' no matter how good it will be.
The Tridents are capable from what I have read and watched, but the Streets are a hell of a lot of bike to grow into.
My money as a younger or less experienced rider would still go to the Street Triples. Nothing on them really needs changed from standard, you can burble to work on a cold wednesday morning, take a weekend trip, or ride like a complete twat and not go any slower than most guys on liter sportsbikes down your local popular curvy road. In terms of the Experiences you can have on the Street series, I think there are more to be had and a lot longer period of time, if ever, before you feel like you need more bike.
I don't say any of this lightly, I have three 200hp sportbikes sitting 20 feet away from me and I ride them hard enough to make the chassis flex, buck, and weave. Other than in a straight line, the Street Triples are just as fast thru the corners and I don't hurt after I get off of one. The Trident wouldn't be able to take me from where I could start out as a new or low time rider up to the limits of where the Street triple ends.. Which is quite high...
I guess the best way to say it is simply to say that while the Trident might be the best bargain in entry level motorcyling, the Street Triples are the best bargain in Motorcycling.
As someone with 13,000miles on a ninja400, this finally convinced me to just go for the street triple.
@@drummer12films You won't be disappointed, but definitely get the RS version-the suspension and brakes are worth it. Factory suspension on the S and R aren't bad in the traditional sense and most riders can't articulate what makes the Ohlins shock and BPF forks on the RS "better", but trust me-they really are Better. The difference to you is that the front end isn't vague at corner entry as you pitch it in and approach the apex, it holds a line with more confidence, then tracks beautifully when you pin it coming out of the corner. It comes down to the sophistication of the damping in the initial part of the forward stroke-the front end is more "nailed to the road" rather than oscillating on bumps and pavement imperfection. It's really good shit on a $12k bike, especially if you beat the dealer up a bit.
One thing I didn't touch on in my post is that one of the biggest reasons I like my GF's street triple is the tank range. It sounds like something silly to worry about for a sporting bike, and it's not the 50mpg I get tearing around in the country-it's that on my big bikes, all three hit reserve around 110 miles give or take. With her bike, I ride a half an hour, get off the freeway, fill up, do my entire 130 mile loop as hard on the gas as I want, and I have just enough gas to get home. On my liter-bikes, I hit reserve at the half way point and start sweating bullets if my riding buddies want to take a detour to a different route to change things up. We pull in for coffee at that half way point and I'm allways watching that damned fuel light. For weekend trips where you are out in unfamiliar areas, the street is a way better option-it still feels like a literbike in the midrange with it's short gearing, but it sips gas and has an actal gas guage with an estimate for miles to empty.
Speaking of gearing, I have ridden it twice more since my original reply to this video with a buddy on his FZ-10 and V4 Tuono..... in a straight line, the Street Triple is a match for acceleration til about 110mph, you don't see that often with riding twisty roads..... and the Street is a lot easier to live with than either of those two. The leg room would be nice but the rest of the bike is so good you don't care. I hope you get one of these bikes, they really are that good.
@@nunyabidness9257 Man you don’t know how much I appreciate your comment. I’ve been agonizing over this for months now. The speed to 110 nailed it for me. Not that i’m only focused on speed, as I love ripping up corners just as much as the next guy, but hearing all your points is everything I needed to hear. Hard to get real world experience on these bikes without it being a track only review. I definitely have “outgrown” the ninja, and just want that sweet sweet triple motor underneath me, and enough power to keep me satisfied down the road. Having the better suspension setup and the extra go fast bits are a cherry on top. Cheers for taking the time to write all this out for a stranger on the internet, I salute you!
Just a thought, if they did a more semi retro model of the Trident, i.e lower tank, a more level tail - something along the lines of a Kawasaki Z900 retro..but obviously less expensive 🤔
Trident has a steel swingarm and will rust like the MT07. Get a Honda CB650R with aluminium swingarm. Bikes cost pretty much the same.
Very good point. My 2015 MTo7 was a year old when the swing arm started to rust.
you always want adjustable suspension.....unless you are absolute target weight of bike....i would pick the triple....for what it costs you get quite a bit more, well worth it
if you can ride a trident you can ride the triple......resale will be better, better brakes are huge even in traffic, the suspension can be tailored to you personally which is huge in handling.....bigger tft display, more premium build, ...think of your really new to riding, no canyons, congested traffic, just a laid cruiser the trident could be good choice........soon as that fades you will be want the triple though......these bikes are that tough to ride......very stable machines, .......just for brakes and suspension alone the triple is something that would carry you for awhile where the trident seems after few months may get lil bored with it
typo at 10.47 ;) stlying.
I mean 147-150 mph top speed for the street triple, Idk about the trident but probably just as good just not as fast, I’d honestly go with a older 675... just saying
Surely you should of done a comparison with the super nakeds that Japan offen. Comparing these 2 are like comparing man united vs there u21s team.
Still waiting for their 2021 MT-07 demo bike to come in to do a head to head with the trident
@@motobob will look forward to the pal
I don’t think we in India have too many questions/ambiguities - Trident itself costs 12K USD !
At 6'2" I'd probably have to have the Speed Triple rather than either of these. The both look great but Triumphs are a little on the small side. Oh well it's an excuse to buy a 180bhp hypernaked 😎
I agree. I’m 5-10 and the street feels a little small even for my frame.
Was waiting for this..🙏
Trident very small bike if your over 5’8 try before you buy 🤔 I am 62 bought 2015 street triple is a beautiful bike can’t fault it 🤙