TRANE and American Standard HVAC BRANDS!
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- HVAC Brands overview of the Ingersoll Rand residential brands: Trane, American Standard, RunTru, Ameristar, and OxBox. Just a quick overview of the comparing these brands to one another all under the same parent company. Sometimes comparing apples to apples, you find that they are the exact same HVAC product with a different name on the label.
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Yes, liked & subbed last night. Yes, I'm ( 0:15 ) in Houston, Texas. The content that you are producing is helpful to all Americans. Very helpful, makes us understand this Big Purchase.
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Thank you. I appreciate you sharing your expertise. It's helpful. God bless you.
I’m with you brother I’m on American standard Dealer and York. If you’ve been doing this a long time you remember when you used to get a Goodman unit and you get three different stickers to stick whatever sticker you want on it
Crazy!
My Trane is 16 years old and loves to eat capacitors. I've replaced 3 run caps and 4 hard start caps in the past 2 years.
This was so helpful thank you.
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I had a Trane 1985 new, it was great, no problems. Now I have a Trane 2021 which is made from parts all over the world, it was a huge mistake. I agree, I have tried to call Trane and GOOD luck with that dream. You are exactly correct about the installer and his company. I should have done research.
I was going to replace my Trane with another one, but was informed they were bought out and then quality nose-dived.
I’m in North Carolina and I have a 3.5 ton American Standard split unit with a zone board and it works perfectly in the summer. But SUCKS in the winter time. We usually don’t get that cold here but every few years we do get in the teens and that unit can not keep up. The unit breaks ever winter, and funny thing is it’s still has a warranty. But so tired of repairing it every year So I decided to go with a 4 ton ICP Split until and it’s amazing. Works perfect and since then we have yet to have a problem, (crossing my fingers).
Awesome! I hope it works out. I’m in Virginia and it’s been cold!
I owned an American Standard 16 SEER 4 ton Heat Pump system; outdoor unit lasted 19 yrs. Indoor unit right now is about 26 y/o and still working; planning to get a replacement soon.
Wow! Congrats
@@NewHVACGuide Yes I was blessed by it's long life! I always enjoy your videos; great work!
Thank you so much!
+bob boscarato that’s amazing!
Really appreciate the context from your experience. Helps a lot. Gratefully. We have a 5 ton R-22 Ameristar with Gas Furnace that we are looking to swap out with a 4/5 Ton FIT or VRV from a ComfortPlus installer.
You’ll see a difference on your utility bills I bet!
@@NewHVACGuide In a good way right :)
Haha. Yes!
Enjoy the information your videos provide. At 2: 24 in the video did I understand correctly that the hood top is now an option on the American Standard models?
Yes. You can get one if you want one. You just have to pay extra.
This was very helpful
I got quotes for Trane and American Standard recently, same equipment and setup. Different contractors. Trane was slightly more expensive but I liked the Trane Contractor more and that is the direction I’m going.
Do it I just installed a Trane 3 Ton! I had great service from my contractor
Hello thank you for your information I have a question. Do a contract know in advance what year a model was manufactured before he purchases it?
I am in Texas I ask mine would the unit be a 2022 or 2023 he said not a 2023 because it only January 5, 2023. It it normal to by a previous year model?
Hey Josh, the Ameristar units do now have a spine fin coil, and are made here in Texas at the Tyler plant. I agree with most of your comments, however, with so many manufacturers having coil leak issues I would suggest to you, now more than ever, that it’s important to go with a manufacturing company that has experience working with all aluminum products. The only manufacturers that have experience, to my knowledge, is the American Standard/Trane family. As you know they have ALWAYS had the spine fin coil in condensers. Everyone else has a learning curve to go through. There is a reason they have always been rated as best with fewest repairs. Now with so many people putting different names on low end units, you should go with something you know you can trust! Especially with the prices being what they are! We have seen Lennox loose a class action over Freon leaks, and many others are going through the same problems! As much as they cost, just buy a American Standard or Trane that will last 15-29 years.
I have not installed an Ameristar unit since they started making them in America. What is the main difference between the new Ameristar and Runtru units from Trane and American Standard? If the lower end brands have all the technology that the main brands do, why have them at all?
@@NewHVACGuide not much of a difference in the new aneristar ac compared to run tru, they did go through a logo change and if you look up ameristar you’ll notice the logo now includes the slogan “by american standard”. I guess what they are trying to do is make them exclusive to supply houses that choose to sell american standard while run tru will be exclusive to trane supply houses
I think you’re right on that pal
I have installed them. The ameristar package units are awful.
Have and american standard furnce and ac very happy with them both installed in 2012 no problem yet with furnece i just replaced the capacitor this year 2024
What's the difference between the Trane XR16 heat pump and the XL16i heat pump?
I'm needing to replace my 17 yr old Trane XR13 3 ton that recently died.
I'm planning on doing a 4 ton for a 2000 sq ft single story in San Antonio where heat consistently goes over 100 for weeks in mid summer.
I usually set daytime AC at 72 and 70 at night.
We have ceiling fans in the bedrooms and living room.
Should an ac installer use a trane heat pump and an American standard air handler?
I'm out on the west coast and appreciate your insights. Thanks! This video is perfect, because I was going to replace my 18 year old Trane with another Trane, though the suppliers don't have stock due to the supply chain issues. The company I use for service only carries American Standard, so maybe I'll go with American Standard.
Glad I could help!
American Standard is literally exact same as Trane just different color scheme. Source: I’ve worked at both a Trane dealer and American Standard dealer
@@timrob0420 thank you!
Trane or Daikin for 14 seer AC? You seem to really like Daikin, but curious for this comparison since there is a huge price difference. Am I comparing Bentleys with Buicks? Thanks.
Thank s for this video! I’m really looking into daikan because of you. My utility bill is getting crazy and I think if I replaced my 10 seer American standard with the Fit heat pump model it will help
Let me know how it goes!
Awesome videos i live in a mobile home trying to decide to just get an outside AC unit or go with heat pump also which manufacture would you suggest goodman, American standard Amana heil these are the 4 I am looking at
Pairing with an electric furnace, gas furnace or air handler?
@@NewHVACGuide it would be with an electric furnace
@@jessenoble1399 electric furnace has heat strips that draw a lot of energy. I would pair it with a heat pump so you are not running on heat strips on mild days. The best unit on the market performance wise to be paired with these types of setups has been the 18 SEER Bosch.
Hi,I enjoyed your talk.I have a Trane that is 17 years old.It is working ok,but I'm thinking about replacing it because of its age.Im thinking about Trane,American Standard,or Carrier.Which do you think would be best?Also I have single stage now is it best to get 2stage and variable speed?I live in Louisiana with a lot of humidity.All this is so confusing.Thanks for any help you can give.
Hello! Trane and AmStan are the same. That said, my opinion is they are better than Carrier. However, that’s just my experience. If your contractor loves Carrier, go with what they love.
Humidity will be better controlled with an inverter system. It may cost more, but you’ll save money on your electric bills. The Cadillac would be a 20 seer Trane or AmStan with a Tam9 air handler, which won’t rust since it’s a polycarbonate cabinet!
Just my two cents 🙂
Definitely get a variable speed blower on the air handler and at least two stage on the heat pump or furnace. You can get a great dehumidifier included that will pull off a lot of humidity. Insist on a good thermostat to control it all properly. All those brands including Bryant will be great choices. Get the best you can afford but avoid the HVAC companies that advertise on tv and the radio. You will pay through the nose. Go with a smaller operation based on quality, not overpriced junk.
Need info to compare Carrier Infinity (19 SEER) comfort system (heat pump and gas furnace) to Trane's same level comfort system.
Check our their websites. A lot of info can be found on both
Quick question, what are your thoughts on the older Ameristar 14 Seer 2.5 Ton Heat pump units? Thank you for all you do! 🙏🏿
The Midea ones? The were okay for the price point.
@@NewHVACGuide Yes. We just purchased one for our townhome here in central Florida. We don't plan to stay here long term. Our plan is to fix this place up and sell it in about 3-4 years. I was really leaning towards an American Standard Silver economy heat pump but decided to go with the cheaper option since we plan to move soon. I'm praying I've made the right decision and chosen the right contractor 😬
I got a new 3.5 ton Runtru on march 2021 and now is june 2023 and i have a leak on the condenser coil.....
I've had three lennox's they were all great
Why cant we get parts for our mini split that is only 6 1/2 months old and has been out for 3 months?
What brand is it?
I have 2500 sf under air single story house and may have to replace my 14 y o 5-ton Lennox, what's the best and quietest HVAC unit. My current unit wakes me up each time it kicks on at night. I need something quieter and efficient.
Look into an inverter system. My personal favorite for the price and quietness is the Daikin Fit. But there’s some other good options out there if you don’t have a Daikin Dealer local.
Thank you!
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Griffin Air LLC I’m already a subscriber
What I wanted to hear is what brands you DO sell and WHY? That would have been really helpful.
We are a Daikin Comfort Pro. 12 year parts and labor warranty 🙂
@@NewHVACGuide I'm in the Tampa Bay area and in all my research, I haven't come across a warranty that good. I need to replace a 35 year old 2.5 ton Trane with blower in the attic. Can you give me a ballpark quote?
Every market and system is different but I’d guess reusing the same ductwork, you’d range from 6 to 12 grand depending on which seer you go with.
@@NewHVACGuide Thanks!
About to get a 3 ton RunTru heat pump and air handle installed this morning. The price and 10/5year warranty is what hooked me.
So you say train has the hood top and you can get it on an American standard. My question is is it better and I always thought American standard was a parent company why would they give baby brother the better hood?
It would be nice to know what the specific differences actually are
Between?
Since you are in VA, can you recommend a good contractor to install a new 4 ton unit in 22031 area?
Unfortunately I don’t know anyone in Northern Virginia. So sorry
Hey Josh, this is very informative video, thank you. Since you mentioned on your other videos that brands do not make much of a difference when comparing same specs apples to apples, and that installations play an important part in the performance and longevity of the unit. I am in Dallas area and planning to replace my 19 y/o HVAC, my question is, how do I know which contractor will do the best installation? Do I just base it from the their respective customer reviews? I have about 3 contractors who have visited and done estimates, but all claimed they have the best installation team. Do you have a recommended contractor in my area?
That is the question pal. I'd recommend having a good contract in place to protect you regardless. But check reviews and even ask for references if you see fit.
I keep hearing the same that it is all about the install. Does that include packaged units? My buddy says a packaged unit is easy to wire up and attach the duct work as it mostly comes ready to go. He does have a couple installs behind his belt where he assissted. Are packaged units as easy to install as he says? Because I'm really thinking of going this route after what I was quoted for a new unit. Thanks!
I'm having a house built and noticed the evaporator is on ly 3 TON unit being paired with a 3.5 condenser unit. I was under the impression they should both be of the same size. America standard 14 Silver 4A6H4042G1000AC and Evaporator is TEM4A0B36S31SCA
Who makes Grand Aire and are they decent for a mobile home?
They are an ICP product. ICP has a decent reputation in our industry.
Good information! I've installed 2 Ameria star systems one ac only and a heat pump. The ac only 3 ton 14seer with a lg compressor runs like a champ, heat pump had a lemon reversing valve but other then that it's doing it job for $. The run tru has a spinefin coil I think 🤔
I’ve been told the new Ameristar and Runtru systems are both spine fin coil. Is that not the case?
@@NewHVACGuide I just was in the market for a new AC and HVAC company I went with a highly recommended company that sold Trane, Ameristar and Armstrong Air. Ameristar was still made in China as of June 2021 and is microchannel. They said they heard Ingersoll Rand was planning on making all their brands in America, but are waiting to see the tax structure under Biden's Administration and may stick with China or Mexico for the Ameristar and RunTru if they get hit with high business taxes.
I was more in the market for the midline Armstrong Air, which most of their execs and installers have chosen for their own houses due to decent price, quality, ease of getting parts and low repairs for failed parts. I went with the Armstrong Air to replace our murdered top of the line Trane. (Loved the Trane, but a HVAC and plumbing company had to move the condenser unit to put in a new sewer line and they did not follow correct practices in removing the unit and reinstalling the unit and their actions led to killing the compressor).
@@ladykoh4678 How's the new Armstrong Air? There's a few good HVAC shops in my region who are also very big on Armstrong Air and really like them for their good pricing-value-reliability balance. They don't have the top-end super premium models you can find with Lennox, Trane, Carrier --- but have excellent line in the middle tier that meets the needs of a lot of homes.
Trane may be merging Ameristar & RunTru units to be exactly the same - just different labels. The Ameristar A-series is exactly the same as the RunTru units --- looks the same with the description except for the label. Both Ameristar A-series and RunTru are advertising that the units are assembled in the US.
@@Kenster-man Armstrong would be a very good choice; I used to sell it as an alternate to costlier brands and its durable and not worse than the leading brands!
Just got a quote here in Southern California. 16000 for a Trane 2 stage 18 SEER 5 ton, 2 stage furnace, new lines, new ducts etc. Expensive but seemed fair
I think that is pretty fair depending on how much new duct work you are talking about. I assume you are talking a variable speed blower in your furnace with a two stages gas valves. How many btu is the furnace? 5 tons is pretty big with a big coil. Make sure to get a good thermostat with it.
I said no way Jose.
My HVAC tech suggest I go with RunTru 16 Seer unit plus the RunTru handler. I need my Lennox 28 year old system changed. Thank you for the videos. They are very helpful.
Thanks pal.
It'd be interesting to get some cost comparisons for a complete RunTru HVAC install versus say Trane and American Standard. There definitely should be some cost savings - especially if you're only looking at basic and mid-tier level units. They're not going to offer the higher end stuff like 18 SEER 2-Stage AC units. But they do have All-Aluminum coils and scroll compressors....assembled in TX. You hear about Evap Coils failing across all brands - why not save some money with using a RunTru and hope for a good 15 years run with the fancy bells & whistles and marketing ads?
Of course - try to get labor warranty coverage and a reputable HVAC shop with good experience with the brands they're installing. Is your HVAC tech also a Trane Dealer? I know of a couple of Trane Dealers here that also installs RunTru/Ameristar depending on customer's needs and budget - so they offer both options.
@@Kenster-man Thanks Kenny. I need to wait on the RunTru till next season. His supplier is out of the 16 Seer and will be getting them in November.Everything is backed up. Being I live in Ct.,I will wait now till the spring.At least my upstairs unit is still working.
Run Tru has spine fin coils too
I see that. Thanks for the heads up.
Bought a brand new Trane in 9/22.
Trane unit was manufactured in 9/22.
Panama Florida plant orgin.
Model 4WCC4030A1000AB
Lasted 30 days then quit.
Called Trane authorized dealer that sold/installed unit.
Took him 11 months to come back out.
No heat during winter/ no AC during summer, 11 months no service,no show.
Finally comes out and tells me unit has defective coil, will have to be replaced.
Repair man tore brand new AC unit apart in yard. Brand new in pieces, 30 days of service,now scattered across yard.
He was not happy , and neither was I.
Fast foward 90 days ,and I hear some one drilling on my AC unit outside.
I go to window ,but can see no one.
I walk outside to find 2 new holes drilled into side of hvac unit...
Exactly 9 11/16 from edge....Exactly where new coil had just been replaced!!!!!!!
Over $5,000 for a Trane unit that operated less than 100 days total.
Then was sabotaged by someone who knew exactly where the coil is sitting behind panel cover.
Called 1800Trane and asked if installer had been reimbursed for labor,on the warranty claim on the defective unit.
Or did he not get paid for work,and now wants revenge.
Trane would not answer.
Called cops,they said oh well,no witnesses, no case.
Where's your shotgun?
Where's your resolve?
When danger strikes, cops are minutes away.
I need a new AC unit for my condo, what brand should I go with?
Find a good company and go with what they recommend
@@NewHVACGuide thank you so much it's between trane and amana, atm I'm leaning towards trane
Both are good brands. I don’t think you will go wrong with either. Just go with the better installation company
What do you sell and why? Please list...
which should i buy trane or carrier
Find a good company and go with what they recommend
What brand do you sell and why? American Standard, Carrier ,Lennox, Daiken which best?
No one is best in every market. For example, I have friend back where I grew up that will only install Trane where Trane is lacking as a supplier in my area now.
We sell Daikin and love em.
In my area it’s literally same supplier for Trane and American Standard
Oh crazy. I see that with Carrier and Bryant but not Trane here.
A few years ago my 1988 AC system gave out. Compressor just spun a few times and locked up with a clank. It was all Trane and it lasted more than long enough. I called the company that installed it decades ago and they were booked up for weeks, They gave me the number of a former employee that was starting his own company that might be able to get to it. So I called and he said he could get to it in 5 days. So I spent nearly a week in a 94 degree house. No big deal. The morning he is to replace it he shows up and cuts the condenser loose, then tells me he can't get a 3 ton replacement since it is R22. Understood. But he said he can't do it today and he has a friend that can and can be here tomorrow with a new A coil and condenser for the new refrigerant. I said great but all he could get was Ameristar at the time. I didn't care, I just wanted AC. So the next day a guy shows up in a pickup, no markings or contractor # and does what I thought was a good job. It still works fine. I paid the second contractor and he said he would email me the contract and warrantees. He never did. This was all fly by night companies but it's working fine. Some times when you're backed in a corner you have to do what you have to do.
No permit. No inspection?
Needed two units went with American standard 14 Seer silver series originally we were gonna go with the train top of the line it was $10,000 more justification just was not there to spend that kind of money.. thanks
You’re welcome!
Is $3250 installed a good price for a Trane XR14 no indoor coil? 3 1/2 ton. Just outside unit only.
Have them clean the indoor coil too. I think the price sounds right.
Sounds reasonable :-)
+J sounds like it 🙂
Is a Trane worth spending the extra money over a Rheem 3.5 ton 13.4 Seer package unit for a rooftop installation? An HVAC contractor is coming over and is going to quote us on heat pumps from both brands. Which is more reliable and less costly to repair? Our 19 year-old Tempstar 3.5 ton 12 SEER heat pump has a refrigerant leak and not worth repairing. Thanks!
No rheem is better in my opinion. Especially since their gas furnace uses spark ignition over hot surface ignition.
I appreciate the reply. From what I’ve been told where we live, it’s easier to find parts and repair a Rheem package heat pump, so that’s what we’re probably going to go with.
I had a Trane contractor come out and gave me an estimate of 19k on a 14-seer complete system. He called me the next day and asked am I ready to start and I told him I was born at night, but it wasn't last night, he hung up on me.
Yeah I had a quote for the 17 seer 2 stage for $18k 3 ton. Insane. Philly metro. Another company had the 16 seer single stage for $10k. At least that was sane.
It’s crazy how cheap some people are in some markets and how expensive others have gotten
@@NewHVACGuide Man that daikan fit, dual fuel is the way to go.
@@MattPSU02 that is insane. I got a 5 ton trane variable speed ac with dual stage heat for 12k in bucks county.
@@drsg9124 WOWWWW! Next 36hrs- Down in Texas-my contractor is installing new XR17 w/SV92 2 stage 5ton… 20K. Prices are crazy. Funny thing - Second bid- a guy was pushing York manufacturer- at $15k single stage. Supply and demand with metal and parts have consumers all over the place.
RunTru outdoor units have the spine fin coil
I know now. RunTru was pretty new when I made that vid. But thanks pal!
When I call contractor I ask to bring EPA Universal, tank of dry nitrogen and recovery machine guess what from 10 companies only 1 show up. I 100% agree you need good contractor and it is hard to find them. Hey I do not mind to pay high bill but do it right.
Yes sir!
Got a quote the other day for a replacement on my 20 year old heat pump, ( tempstar). They quoted me $19k for a 2.5 ton Trane XV19 with tam9 AH
New ductwork and registers. I have 9 total ducts currently a spider box set up that's pretty old. This is a single story 1400 SQ ft house. Seems kind of steep imo. I have a other company coming to give an estimate tomorrow, they are an American Standard dealer.
My question is does the $19k seem about right?
I recommend finding a good contractor local to you and going with what they recommend. Every market is different. So find someone awesome and go from there.
@@waynespringer501 Out of curiosity - how's the new Goodman units running? With the heat we've gotten most places around the country, how did your new Goodman HVAC system perform? I'm also leaning towards something like a Goodman, RunTru, Comfortmaker, Armstrong Air, etc. --- to save some bucks versus paying premium prices for the premium names. Even with the premium brands they have issues whether it be leaking Evap coils or whatever and new stuff will probably only last 15 years. Then the more premium bells & whistles units may be over-engineered and damn hell expensive to repair.
What's your opinion on American Standard Gold 80v - 100k, 5 ton, 21", Downflow: 1.00 Gold 80v Gas Furnace
I'm asking because this is what an HVAC company recommended. Did a little research and it's rated low for energy efficiency.
It’s rated low because of the AFUE rating. High-efficiency furnaces are going to have a 90% or higher AFUE rating
@@NewHVACGuide Thanks.
Never buy a Lennox I am in a nightmare I never knew an Hvac unit can make you sick and toxic. See Thomas vs Lennox 2015 and Allen Kelly installed the defective unit copper coils in late 2015. They knowingly sold us a defective unit. The blower motor burned up and put toxic fumes in home coils leaking, motherboard, and finally now their is a crack in the heat exchanger and i have no heat, only 6 yrs old 13k and AK will not repair it and passed us off to deal with Lennox which is impossible. I have been battling this for over one year. They took our good green money and sold a defective class action lawsuit. And we trusted them.
Trane is an old Indian term meaning "no parts available"
The Run Tru has a Spine Fin Coil put a few in also no pressure switches lil cheaper made but seems decent
Have you put any of them in?
I’m just curious how folks are liking them
Also I noticed the tubing stubs with service valves lil longer than most units that’s a plus but where they exit the unit the lip that’s rolled up on the bottom of the unit for support is cut out where the tubing exits puts the tubing real close to the ground because of this also metal bott on unit not plastic like on the Tranes
That’s interesting. I remember hearing in a class one time a manufacturer saying that they tried extending out the service ports for easier installations before and they were getting beat up in shipping and things like that.
Griffin Air LLC they are longer which is great , valves monted on a angle not straight up another good but they cut out most of the lip on bottom that is part of the base pan which lowers the stems of valves to the ground lil harder to braze in the valves , I just put on a slab still lower to slab but raises the unit up from the ground
So let me ask you this. If the sales person says we will sell you a Trane 16 for $10,900 and the installer shows up with an American Standard system I shouldn’t be concerned about the name being different?
Technically, the model numbers and the equipment are the same. However, that’s awfully odd that they would do that. Do you have a contract in place? To verify that they are installing what you bought?
@@NewHVACGuide It was a miscommunication. The system they installed was a silver series American standard and the furnace that they installed along with it made it a “gold package” the silver series and the furnace are working very well.
how many tons?
Just saw a vid by a guy who is an tech for HVAC who claims the Compressors used in these brands not come from Mexico. A New move for the companies. ?
I’ve been to the factory to their belt side-by-side same people just like carrier owns every damn thing
Before or after the fire? 😃
you take care of the distributor that takes care of you
I agree!
Hey man
I am doing a 20 unit tiny home development to hold and rent. I will be installing mini splits. 10 homes with 2 head unit, 10 homes with 3 head units. My local HVAC suppliers that I trust have offered Durastar, American Standard, AirTemp, Mitsubishi and Fujitsu as my options. As a patriot, I’d love to consider American products made in America if possible. If this were you investment, which would you chose?
Stephen
Unfortunately none are made in the states yet. A few are making them in Mexico now but most are made in Asia.
AMERICAN STANDARD-> It’s stupid to have to manually switch to emergency heat when outdoor gets into teens. You should be able to set a trigger point then let the controller turn it on when temps get below that point.
Just purchased an American Standard system and was told that Ingersoll Rand no longer owns them
Hmm. First I’ve heard that
Ingersoll Rand dropped Trane. Trane is now a standalone company, I worked for Trane Commercial for the last 43 years just retired this year
@@gregorykazian804 Yes - so my understanding is that Trane became their own stand-alone company called Trane Technologies and in fact their new website is tranetechnologies.com --- I believe American Standard HVAC is a brand owned by the new Trane Technologies as listed here on their website. www.tranetechnologies.com/en/index/brands.html#trane
@@gregorykazian804
Want to do a Trane heat pump 16 seer 4 ton variable speed in San Antonio?
Trane was much better back in the 90s. Back then they were truly exceptional. Today Trane is not any better than any other brand on the market.
What do you think is different now?
@@NewHVACGuide
They were much more stoutly built.
They easily could last well over 20 years. Today they have plastic blower housing plastic air handlers.
Their evaporator coils leak just as much as everyone else today.
I still see some Trane systems from the 80s that are still going.
Are oxbox a good ac
They're a builder grade brand. Are you comparing them to anyone else?
Good video but you might try to stop using< "YOU Know" so often.
I say it way too much.
I listened to you and you really didnt say anything about the products or represent the title of your video, HVAC Brand overview: Trane, American Standard, Ingersoll Rand brands, RunTru, Ameristar
Sorry pal!
So why do you sell the brand that you sell? I wish you would " quickly rattle off the reasons."
I do everyday 🙂
In short, the brand we sell is the best in our market. Best warranties and products.
I think my supplliers are gouging me.
I know the feeling
Where are you located?
Not anymore...
You know an industry is scummy trash when they refuse to list prices for all to see
I understand what you're saying, but I will say that it's not uncommon in multiple industries. For example, when you go to buy a car, it's not always public knowledge what the car dealer paid for that car
@@NewHVACGuide I completely agree; however, it should be completely transparent in all industries. If companies would be honest with their customers, they would make more money in the long run.
I’m a fan of transparency. I’m curious how they could make more money if they were to tell everyone what they pay for HVAC equipment… it may not be honest, but I would think they’d make more by keeping pricing confidential
@@NewHVACGuide The power of honesty in business and life cannot be overstated. Businesses that operate with integrity and honesty are more likely to build trust with customers, attract top talent, and maintain a positive reputation in the community. It all boils down to your conduct and ethics as an individual. Businesses are no more than a reflection of the mind that brought it to fruition. While it may be tempting to cut corners or bend the rules in order to get ahead, the long-term consequences of such actions are simply not worth it. By establishing a culture of honesty and integrity, businesses and individuals can drive success and build a strong foundation for the future.
3000 difference
an i getting what i pay for 😫
Eek. That’s a big difference. Time for another quote LOL
I would not touch a new Trane or American standard for anything.My Parents house had two 1998 Trane Heat pumps a 5 ton and a 3 ton split unit have been great not one problem save for cleaning they were replaced in 2019 with mix of Daikin and Amana for efficiency. Trane/American standard went down the tubes in 2009 when Rand bought them out.My Dad owns rental properties that I help him take care of. In the last year I have had to replace a 3 compressors on Trane heatpump units and they were L.G. compressors that came out of them the units are not old at all. My Dad has stopped using Trane on his rental properties. Trane has always bragged about making there own Climatuff compressors that is no longer true, Thats false advertisement to me. They tell you that Snowball 1 and 2 climatuff compressor story when they sell you a system, I know they showed me that crap and they pointed out that's why Trane costs more than the other guys.
When it got to -5 this past February . I had to turn off my Rheem heat pump when it gets below 20 its useless and use gas log but my Daikin mini split Extra low temp that is in the basement media room/mother in law apartment had zero problems . We just stayed down there the temp never dropped below 70 which is what it was set at.
No more Trane for Us ...
I’ve heard the same from some of our customers.
The installer had Trane, Rheem, and Goodman. The sales guy steered me away HARD from Trane and Rheem. He said that he had so many defective units and callbacks from the Trane and Rheem in the last couple years that he couldn't recommend either of them. He basically sells mostly the Goodman stuff.
You can tell that this is bullshit when he claims Trane with middleman is equivalent to American Standard but doesn't simply list the prices!
What is BS about it? And what do prices have to do with it?
Trane and American Standard are the same products. Look up the model numbers. They’re identical. They’re literally made on the same exact assembly lines. Maybe one is higher than the other in your market versus my market, but I don’t think that even matters. They’re the same products
I laugh my ass off with this run tru bullshit, my cost 1k cheaper for run tru than American standard, don’t do much actual Trane but obviously would be more or the same cost but either way 1k for greenish paint or silver run tru is the same thing, they are the same condensers except the sheet metal
GE WEATHERTRON. Now that was a heat pump that runs on and on and on.