CARRIER/BRYANT HVAC Brand COMPARISON!
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- HVAC Brands overview of the Carrier residential brands: Carrier, Bryant, Payne, Day and Night, Tempstar, Arcoaire, Comfortmaker, Heil, Keeprite. Just a quick overview of the comparing these brands to one another all under the same parent company. Sometimes comparing apples to apples, you find that they are the exact same HVAC product with a different name on the label.
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Purchased: August 2023 - still works GREAT!I th-cam.com/users/postUgkxxsUnXhGsSJLim_XnMHyQK0u3XVaW-CGn live in a studio and during the summer it gets scorching hot - really old building with no ac units. I can’t express how EASY it was to install. This unit has been a life savior during the summer and some days during other seasons where it can still be a bit warm at night. In this small place is my friend, a husky, poodle mix and myself. We need AC - lolI don’t use the dehumidifier option - I’m not sure if it will leak in my house, since I did not install the small draining hose that came with it. May look into it late but I don’t worry about much humidity in the apartment. I don’t understand why the negative reviews since all things mentioned, I personally did not find issues with. Definitely worth it!
What’s the verdict?
WOW. Even more helpful material. I am so glad that I found this channel. I'm in middle of planning / thinking next direction for our A/C. Buying now or repairing, such hard choices.
Good luck pal!
Hi Griffin HAVC, in comparison of Bryant carrier sub brand offered by an installer to another installer offered Lenox HVAC system (gas heat furnace 70,000 btu+ coil & compressor single stage 2.5 ton) for $7,700 bargaining 10 year part & labor coverage. The first installer offered Bryant system used by my neighbor with 10 years part & labor charge for $6,900 however I cannot find the exact business address and also the owner son in law has the Havc license according their website.
If you were me what would you choose in terms of product reliability and piece of mind for next ten years? Please help, I need to make decisions ASAP. Thanks p.s both system 14seer & furnace is 80% efficiency due to home builder installed 17.5” air duct system and metal ( non pvc) exhaust duct for the furnace 18 years ago.
If upstairs ac is out furnace is running, change entire zone system? Should I change the zone for downstairs at the same time if both ac & furnace still running fine at this moment (18 years old system)?
@@NewHVACGuide please see my question to you which I accidentally input under Poe Lemic as “reply “
I recommend going with the contractor you like better; nevermind the brand they sell. I'd lean on their answers to your questions and if you don't like what they are saying, get another opinion or quote.
Interesting. Right before I watched this video , a saw an HVAC guy at my neighbor’s and I asked him about my a/c. He was kind enough to come into my yard. As soon as he saw the make of my a/c ( Bryant ) under his breath I caught him say what I thought he said. Carrier. So I found this video and lo’ and behold! It ( sorta ) is! Thanks for the video.
Man, this is EXTREMELY helpful information. I'm currently in the market for a new unit and I'm enjoying this series. Thank you!
Thank you pal!
Does anyone know who makes Mr. Cool? I tried looking at his website but couldn’t find it. I’m trying to look up my warranty if any. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
You are awesome, learned so much. I have a carrier, was told I need the evaporator coils replaced after having it recharged twice. Wish you were in MD.
Thank you sir I appreciate your time
Yes sir. Good luck!
Facts:You are on point I Sell Bryant just sold a 5 ton Split today .Sometimes customers want Carrier and I tell them its the same
Thanks pal!
@@RVD2448 what market are you in? We sell a bunch of the inverter systems.
Carrier Infinity and Bryant Evolution are the same I thought?
Gotcha. Yeah we probably sell more inverters than 14 SEER systems. I guess every market is different.
You're in a better Region S Florida Sucks when it comes to the Trade
@@MrScatliffe Do yall have a heating season at all?
Very helpful, thank you!
Thank you!
Best HVAC channel ever!
Wow! Thank you!
I was told by my AC guy that I could replace only the outside unit with an ICP and that unlike other manufacturers that require both inside and outside units to be replaced, that ICP would honor the 10 year warranty even if I only replaced the outside unit, is this accurate? In general terms, what is the overall price difference between a Carrier/Bryant unit and a comparable ICP one?
Nice video, very informative. Plan on checking out your new guide site. I have been looking at Carrier and Bryant. Where would you put Lennox? I currently have one and am thinking of replacing with another. What are your thoughts?
The Airquest, Arcoaire, Day and Night, and Tempstar 3.5 ton, 13.5 Seer package heat pumps look identical. A similar Carrier package heat pump looked identical as well except for the louvre covers for the coils. I can buy an Airquest myself for 4k and get a 10-year warranty as long as a licensed contractor installs it. Is there any advantage of buying one or the other?
Learned a lot from this video thanks!
Carrier and Bryant are manufactured at the same factories, but are sold separately. Most Carrier dealers only sell Carrier and Payne units.
Same here 🙂
The only difference between carrier and Bryant is the color and the tag. During Covid they were putting carrier and Bryant tags with the air handlers because they couldn’t make enough.
Thank you so much for sharing this info. I was torn between Bryant and Carrier. The price difference is 1k and I'm going to go with Bryant. Thank U.
Do you an opinion of Lenox? Heard they have quality control issues?
Good video👍 Carrier for a long time was #1 for sales, but in 1990’s Goodman was catching up to Carrier and when Goodman purchased the Amana line from Raytheon that was when soon after Carrier purchased the ICP line, if they didn’t do this purchase Goodman would of took the lead. So for awhile Carrier was still top dog until Daiken purchased Goodman. Now Daiken is #1 in Air Conditioning Global. The only way I see that Carrier is going to take #1 spot is purchasing Gree or possibly Samsung, their partnership with Toshiba is not going to advance them to #1
Very good insight. Thanks!
Sounds like #1 based on politics.. Not necessarily quality or reliability.
is comfortmaker any good?
Goodman sucks.
Hi, I’ve talked to 5 HVAC companies and currently narrowed my choices to 2. I live in SoCal. One company would install an American Standard 16 Seer unit, but will try to salvage some of my existing parts from the current hvac system. The other would install a 14 seer Day and Night for a cheaper price with all new parts. I asked about a 16 seer unit but they would need to check availability. I like both contractors. I haven’t heard of the Day and Night brand until today which is why I watched this video. Any advice you can share? Thank you in advance and thank you for all of your videos. They’re helping me with this process.
Which one would you choose 3ton Airtemp or Goodman or ICP? We were quoted for it each brand. Price is a little different on each. Were in Florida. Thank you
I don't usually comment on brands because everyone has preferences. However, there is one brand imparticular I steer folks from just because they look for reasons to not honor warranties. That brand is Nortek and they manufacture the Airtemp brand or at least used to.
Hey Josh, I forgot the guy’s name that always ask about inverter packaged units but I just saw that Gree offers one too called X-PAC. Up to 17.8 SEER2 / 8.8 HSPF2
Carrier, Bryant, Payne, Comfortmaker, Heil are all identical on the lower SEER models each model parts will interchange they are just different colors. When you start getting into Inverter systems Carrier and Bryant are the same.
There are other brands with that same 14 seer unit that your talking about such as, Grand Aire (which have a black cabinet), Ecotemp (based on Grand aire), keeprite, Arcoaire, Airquest (heil brand), Day and night, Kenmore (dark grey cabinet) and then the more common ones: tempstar (have dark/light grey cabinet depending on where it’s assembled) comfortmaker, Heil then Payne ( cream colored cabinet), Bryant which have a black fan guard with bage cabinet and carrier which has a light grey cabinet all around.
@@nathang.1744 absolutely I wasn't specifically naming all of them just the most popular names that are all exactly the same except color and name
*** THIS VIDEO IS VERY HELPFUL, TODAY AN AC UNIT WAS INSTALLED IN MY APT....I AGREED BASED ON THE UNIT BEING CARRIER BRAND...AFTER INSTALLATION I NOTICED THAT NO WHERE ON THE UNIT STATES THAT IS A CARRIER UNIT ...CONTRACOR TOLD ME THAT IS A BRYANT..I'M DISSAPOINTED AND MAD AS I BASED MY DECISION OF INSTALLATION ON THE REPUTATION THAT THE CARRIER BRAND REPRESENTS. ,*** THE UNIT NIETHER DISPLAYS A BRYANT LOGO, CONTRACTOR TOLD ME THAT WHEN I'LL REGISTER THE SERIAL NUMBER FOR WARRANTY IT WILL COME UP AS BRYANT...HOPE AT LEAST US A BRYANT...LET SEE, IF THAT IS THR CASE, YOUR VIDEO WILL GIVE SOME PIECE OF MIND. THANK YOU !
Good informative video.. I just had my HVAC replaced and was told that my Rheem would be replaced with a Carrier.. It was actually replaced with a Bryant.. Was this a bait and switch or are the 2 the same in one with different name badges.. Should I make this a problematic issue with the HVAC company or is it a moot point??
Same thing. As long as the model numbers match, you should be good. I've gotten Payne units with a Carrier badge even
I used to work for Carrier. The Bryant and Carrier come off same production line. I could look on my computer and watch them being made, see what compressor serial number was going in each unit.
That’s pretty cool!
I got a quote from an AC company and it was for a Carrier condenser/ evaporator plus installation. So he shows up today with a Bryant condenser and Aspen evaporator telling me the Carriers are not available and it was hard to get the Bryant ( it has taken almost 2 weeks to get this system in) I do feel a little peeved for not getting what was quoted. My old unit was on it's last leg struggling to cool, so I accepted the unit and it's working ok so far.
Eek. That’s odd. Do you have a contract stating its Carrier? Is there a price break since it’s not?
@@NewHVACGuide The installer first gave me a verbal when he came out to look at my unit. Then he sent me a quote via email but it didn't have any brand listed ---just a quote for the dollar amount. So I emailed him and asked if this quote was for a Carrier and he told me it would be for both the condenser and evaporator. His installers came over with the Bryant and just began to unload and do the job. When he shows up later I ask him if there is a price difference and he says no. ---that he was lucky to get the Bryant and Aspen since things are back ordered these days.
@@captinbeyond I'M IN THE SAME SITUATION....
Could you give me your opinion on the temp star we are looking at replacing our 23 year old system with a temp star package unit we where told it’s 4 ton 14 seer electric heat and air are they good units or should we ask our ac guy for a different option he gave a price of 5500 installed is it worth it ? Thanks for your input in advance
Tempstar is an ICP brand. ICP isn’t the Cadillac but they have a pretty good reputation in the industry I would say. As far as his price, every market is different. With that said, that would be a very good price in our area.
All on installation at end of day and warranty. Never buy on price alone. Reputation of contractor
Very true pal
Have you any experience with Goodman HVAC systems? Thanks
you were saying about the ICP brands, tempstar, etc. are these the budget units. parts are low end, what brand of compressors are put in them. you mentioned carrier premium, high quality parts? on average how long will a tempstar last. we have a 25 year old town house, 2 floors, 1,800 sq.sq ft and a basement. our hvac quoted us $6,000 for everything, incl. heat unit, we have natural gas. including tax.
ICP has a decent reputation in our industry. Carrier just seems to put their newer technology in their Carrier and Bryant lines
@@NewHVACGuide what is the icp warranty brand and parts quality and approximately how much more will I have to pay for the repairman not in my house every 6 months with another horribly engineered part .
The watchdog is adorable.😊😊 I like the Daikin fit, unfortunately, they're not Energy Star certified nor can I receive a Tax Credit after purchase. However, I was reading the specs on the Bryant HP 288BNV and 38MURA Evolution System. They have a similar compact size as the Daikin Fit. What do you think regarding performance, etc.? Josh, I wish you'd come to my neighborhood in Richmond, VA.😥😥
My shop is a bryant dealer.
What our reps have told us is that that bryant and carrier are "sister-brands". 100% identical as far as Ive been told. Our ACs literally used to come with a carrier badge and a bryant badge.
When a part (or a whole piece of equipment) gets a newer revision, carrier dealers are usually prioritized in the distribution process of the newest parts/units. Otherwise there is literally no difference between bryant and carrier.
ICP brands like heil and comfortmaker have more of a one-way relationship with carrier. Carrier liked their AC body style, and their furnace heat exchanger design (after the plugged hx debacle with carrier/bryant ~15 years ago). So carrier basically bought ICP in order to take some of their features that carrier liked. And then carrier passes some of their tech down to ICP brands on a much more limited basis than they do with Bryant. Heil is the top-tier ICP brand, and theyre just recently starting to incorporate the modulating technology that carrier and bryant have had for quite a while. Carrier basically bought ICP so they could use a few of their designs, and in return carrier gives their second-newest tech to ICP, keeping them one step behind.
Payne is basically exactly what you said. Builder-grade carrier. They dont have fully modulating units at all. Theyre just base-tier carrier/bryant units. Payne units are identical to carrier units, just like bryant units are. The difference is that payne is only base-tier units.
And i would bet that some parts which just barely fail carrier quality control get sent over to payne. That's just speculation though.
My condo board is requiring my new replacement AC unit to be 69 decibels or lower. Is that normal?
My buddy tells me to buy York, but I have contractors selling me Trane, Lennox, and Amana where I live. I know it's about the install and not the brand. But which would you go with for reliability, efficiency, and cost in savings in the long run? Thanks for your advice.
Hmm, I'd probably say Trane or Amana before the others. But you're right on picking the right installation company. I'd pick the contractor you like.
Opinions on brands are only accurate for everyone's experiences. Like cars, you like Ford and I like Chevrolet. Which is better? Depends on your experience.
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Lennox is garbage.. overpirced
Never buy York, it is among the worst brands for central AC out there. Lennox, Trane or American Standard are the three best and the price difference is just not that much for the equipment over other brands. By far the biggest cost will be installation.
@@AlgiersPoint1 I’ve currently got a 30 year old Trane cranking away.
…but I’m sure a lot has changed in the past 30 years
I have a few estimates from different installers who carry different products. The two installers that made an impact with me are neck and neck with everything and I like them both. So, this may come down to brand, between Bryant and Ruud for propane furnace/AC. Any suggestions with your experience? Thanks !!
I think they both have the pros and cons. I think you'll find professionals on both sides, saying one is better than the other. So if that's the two brands that you have narrowed it down to, and they both have good contractors standing behind them, you should be fine.
Which ac unit do you install the most?
If Bryant is the same does it have the same warranty?
Daikin
Same warranty
I think the best advice is what i'm readying from you in the comments. I have three different contractors bidding different manufacturers, but it seems like one contractor is head and shoulders above the other two. I don't know much about the brands, but they seem like they really know what they're recommending and I'm guessing the installation process will be smoother (and they'll probably do a better job sizing the system for my house). The last big decision I have... I live in central Illinois and I can't decide between furnace and air to air heat pump or standard A/C furnace setup. I don't have money to burn but I'd like to be responsible from the environmental impact standpoint.
Thanks. Finding a good contractor that you trust and is good at what they do is probably 80% of the battle for most homeowners today.
Ask if there is any rebates for the heat pump option. I don't know what's better for the environment though, because I think Illinois produces electricity from coal? I could be wrong on that though
Recently I replaced a broken secondary fuse on the furnace and a faulty thermostat, and the LED showed a solid red light. Two days ago, when I tried to run the furnace, I found that the LED became off, but the fuse on the furnace, the breaker for the furnace, and the connected thermostat are all still intact. Could you give me an educated guess as what could be wrong in this case? Thank you!
Sounds like it could be one of several issues. But if your low-voltage components are all checking out OK, it’s possible you have a bad control board.
@@NewHVACGuide Thank you for your quick response! I'll check that out.
Is Day&Night a good quality product? I like the prices and im thinking to get it this week
What's a fair price for a 5 ton Bryant Evolution 24 Heat Pump combined with a Bryant Evolution 987M 98.3% efficiency gas furnace + Connex Thermostat + haul away of old system. Parts and labor included?
Which AC unit do you think is more reliable and has the less amount of maintenance between Goodman and Grandaire?
They should both require the same amount of maintenance and if installed properly, should have the same amount of reliability :-)
What do you recommend for 1500 Sq ft house? I am looking at Heil or American Standard. Which do you prefer?
American Standard would probably be a better product overall but I’d recommend going with a contractor you feel good about and going with what they love and sell.
I would like someone’s advice. I’m going to be replacing my central AC and am wondering if anyone could tell me which would be better to go with a Concord or a Tempstar?
Temp star an iCP product
Just had to replace a top end Carrier infinity series. It only lasted ~12 years and it's already burned through 2 secondary heat exchangers. The second heat exchanger went after only ~2 years, but Carrier won't warranty their product for more than a single replacement.
Eek. Make sure the installer connects a manometer and gets the gas pressures right on the new one. Heat exchangers should last longer than that
Where would one find the gas pressures for a particular unit?
That's an installation issue, not an equipment issue.
Can the installation of a 13 seer ADP A-coil into a MOBILE HOME with a MFG installed down flow CARRIER furnace (92%) void the warranty of the furnace? Furnace is 17.5 in's wide and coil is 15.5 in's wide. Duct opening is 14 in's wide.
Definitely want to make sure it’s an AHRI match if possible. Some brands will void the warranty if not
Bosches seem to pair great with mobile home furnaces. We’ve had a lot of success with them
Where are you located?
@@RVD2448 which brand coil do you prefer?
Hi can you tell me what the dip switches should be at on a new carrier 59TP6 100k BTU furnace I have a ecobee and my installer just left it at the factory positions and told me to leave fan on all the time.
Sorry. I don’t install carrier. Your installer should be able to set everything
@@NewHVACGuide thanks
Thanks for all the videos with great information If you're able to answer a question it would be greatly appreciated. Is it worth stepping up from the legacy line to the preferred line for Bryant? Also I have a train furnace that's 19 years old giving me no issue should I replace it alongside the AC unit or save 5 grand and hope I get another 5 to 10 out of it? If I was to replace it I'm leaning towards an 80% two-stage so nothing extravagant. I currently have an 80% one stage.
Hello. I'd defer to your local expert on the Preferred vs Evolution line. That said, if there's nothing wrong with the current system, what is the advantage of the new system? Both are 80%. Would the SEER be a big jump in efficiency?
@@NewHVACGuide really only benefit would be the convenience of doing them both together and peace of mind with them both being new. On the other hand I feel like if I get another five plus years out of the current furnace putting a new one in may be a waste of money. Seems a lot of companies entice you to replace both at the same time with the discount on an entire system. Unsure if there's real benefit to replacing both at once.
I have learned a lot from you
i have a quick question....for a 1900 square foot single family home in Florida what tonnage and seer would you recommend?
I’d recommend having a proper heat load calculation done and going with whatever that comes back with
Wats up man wat do u think about a tempstar? Ac unit
Great video again! When you say"They have a decent reputation" towards ICP brands do you mean the they're inferior quality compared to Carrier, Bryant and Pyne? I just got quote from a contractor for a Arcoair and a Tempstar(80% furnace in Big Bear CA $4200)...I'm not too sure about there decent reputation. I also got a quote for %6500 for a Lennex. I'm not sure what to do.
If the ICP unit is installed correctly it should last as long and maybe longer than a Lennox
I wouldn't say inferior. I'm not a fan of Payne at all. It's made to compete with other builder grade brands. Lennox and ICP are probably close to the same reputation overall. I'd focus more on the contractor than the brand
Well , I got the fan to run and the compressor to come on and I got a question, there are 3 wires blue red and yellow , the blue and red come off the cap and the yellow from a plug I believe the yellow comes from the thermostat and the blue and red are 110 right ?? I got this unit and if it works it works I’m not gonna hold anything you say I’m just looking for a hint or ANYTHING that may lead me to succeed
That all sounds like the high voltage stuff. So it most likely does not come from the stat.
But it sounds like if you got all that to come on that things are repairable. You may need to call a pro though
Question for anyone: When an installer says their hvac system comes with a 1,2 or even 10 year LABOR warranty...is it typically required to do the yearly or bi-yearly tune-up to keep the warranty in play? Thx.
Can't see the value in paying $149 twice a year for a tune-up....over a 10 year period.
Oh, and is that labor warranty thru the installer or the manufacturer?
Hi Jim. Most require some sort of preventative maintenance. Some labor warranties are through the contractor if they’re short. But most long term ones are through the manufacturer or a 3rd party company like JB warranties. I did a video recently on extended warranty options.
@@NewHVACGuide Thanks so much. F1 tornado dropped neighbors chimney on my outside condenser unit. Pancaked it. Trying to figure which brand to go with, warranty. Thanks for the videos
@@jimbike8064 do it at least once a year I’ve seen so many problems that could have been prevented by getting the checked out though that doesn’t guarantee something won’t happen.
ArcoAires look exactly like Carriers, hell I've even gotten some Carrier condensers with the badge taken off for ArcoAire condensers. ArcoAire is very buildergrade more affordable and they're 15 SEER2 across the board. They're nice, I like them
I have Carrier 4 head mini split system that will not heat in cold temperatures. Its only one year old. The installer has been out 6-7 times with not fix. They told me that I need to have all four units on set at 77 degrees with all the doors open to heat a 1400' home. Is this true?
Definitely sounds like you might need to get a second opinion. Some mini split systems don't do well in the cold anyway but if it's not producing any heat, there may be something wrong
Great overview! What do you think about an ICP product versus a Mitsubishi H21 15k BTU mini splits? There's about a 1500 difference in price between both, so looking at $5500 vs $7000 (I'm in Canada). I'm just looking for a no frills unit that will do its job in extreme heat, as well as extreme cold in the winters (-13 F or colder), while also being a durable unit that will stand the test of time, while keeping electricity costs low.
Not looking at a large area to be heated/cooled - around 200 sq ft, but it gets very cold in the winter, and this will be an installation for a garage loft.
The Mitsu unit I'm looking at has a 21.8 SEER. Cheers man.
Lots of variables in your question. Which contractor do you like better? Or is the same one?
@@NewHVACGuide It's the same contractor. I may also be having a geothermal system installed for the house by them. Will be getting quotes from other places too, for all the work (including the mini split).
@@reck0n3r Nice. Sounds like a lot of work.
@reck0n3r That said, I'm surprised a contractor is providing two very different brands. ICP would probably be the one that's "no frills" in comparison. However, is that what they're offering as their "lower end brand"? Either way, typical answer to the question of which brand someone should go with is usually similar to, "find a good contractor and go with what they recommend"
@@NewHVACGuide Appreciate the replies.
So it was me that specifically asked for how much the Mitsubishi would be since I had read many good things about their heat pumps. After seeing the quote for 7k, that's when I asked if they had any other options that would be more cost effective, and that's when they mentioned the ICP unit would be 1500 less, and I believe it was mentioned that this was what they used in most of their installations.
In terms of longevity and working in extreme conditions, if they're basically the same, then ICP would make more sense. I don't care much for "luxury" features, and just want the most durable unit for the best price.
Tempstar is the top brand for ICP, and Tempstar's condensers are made in the factory as the Carriers, most all the air handlers basically are the same; made in USA. Front return air handlers are made in China.
Wats up man so wats ur opinion on a tempstar? My buddy is recommending it to me for the price, he said they very competitive with carrier and Bryant , I think he said they all made in same spot
My Bryant heat pump & gas furnace seem to behave differently than my Rheem did. I wonder if this is a problem waiting to happen. This morning (at 35 degrees outdoors) I upped my thermostat from 64 to 69 degrees. The heat pump and furnace fan came on and ran for just a couple of minutes. Then the call for 5 degrees of heat all at once kicked on the Aux gas heat and seems to makes sense. I heard the gas burner fire up and the vent pipe got hot. The problem is that I could hear my heat pump was still running. I have always thought that a heat pump & gas furnace should never run at the same time. I guess it could be that the HP is possibly running in a different mode, such as defrost or possibly in some way that would not be harmful, but I don't know. So I shut it down. I don’t know how to confirm if this is a situation that might cause damage or not. I don’t know if the heat pump is supposed to ‘run on’ in some otherwise safe mode temporarily. I am afraid that if I let it run on just to see if it eventually shuts down I might do damage in the meantime. I would feel better if I knew that the HP is supposed to behave like this under these conditions.
To be a true dual fuel system, the heat pump should lock out when the furnace is running. I would not consider your situation “dangerous“. However, I’m sure the heat rise causes the evaporator coil pressures to rise higher than designed... Which could possibly cause a refrigerant leak. Regardless, the whole point of having a heat pump with a gas furnace is to save money on gas on mild days so then a heat pump will provide your home heat. What you’re describing is not appropriate.
@@NewHVACGuide Makes sense. Do your heat pumps go completely quiet prior to switching over to fossil fuel? No brief run-on of any kind? I was hoping this might a normal thing for them to do briefly but I'd hate to test that only to find out that I blew a refrigerant line do to a high pressure situation. How long do think it would take to cause damage if I tested that theory for just a minute or two just to see if the heat pump really quits?
In a Bryant dual-fuel system, the furnace can briefly run to assist with defrost and this is normal. You can disable this and make the heat pump always defrost itself.
I have 2 quotes a Goodman or a carrier performance series. Both 3 ton 16 seers. Price is a few hundred dollars difference. Leaning carrier as it has a sound blanket and hi low pressure switch ( don’t know if this means much, selling tactic ) . Thoughts ? California.
Goodman has the pressure switches too. Which contractor do you like more?
@@NewHVACGuide I’m going with a friend who dropped it $700 . Going to do the carrier. Install is this Saturday.
Good luck!
I bought a 3 ton 16 seer carrier for 2400 with gas furnace. Self install no duct work.How much did you pay?
Im looking to replace my whole house HVAC system with a Lennox unit. Is it a good brand?
If you have a good contractor in your area that sells, Lennox, you'll be fine. My area does not have a good Lennox supplier or and good dealers.
Do you know who makes comfort star? I cant find much info on it.
I'm not familiar with them pal. I think they're their own company
Which one? Trane vs Tempstar Heat Pump.
Hello , I was recently given a carrier air v and also recently learned they don’t make parts for this anymore! I’m trying to wire a on off switch to it since I don’t have a thermostat for it any ideas on how to do that ??
Hello. We’ve ran into that as well. They haven’t been able to get parts for those in at least seven years that I know of. I think those things use communicating technology and wiring a simple switch isn’t as easy as if it were an AC voltage system. That said, if you get to the point where you have to replace the system, Atwood makes a remote control style AC. Not many companies do.
I'm at crossroads carrier vs Armstrong mid range ac and furnace combo. Which one would you pick carrier more expensive but able to finance, Armstrong cheaper but a cash deal.
Well if you’re comparing apples to apples, Carrier is considered more of a premium brand which would equate to Armstrongs premium brand which is Lennox. Lennox’s builder grade brand is Armstrong. So that’s why it’s less expensive.
@@NewHVACGuide Armstrong Is absolutely not a builder grade brand. Concord or ducane would be so.
You are correct Armstrong is not the premium brand. Lennox is. It’s the same exact equipment. Different cabinet. But when you’re talking builder grade. That’s absolutely not the case for Armstrong. Armstrong Is what ICP is to carrier. ICP is not builder grade. Now a Payne which is carriers builder grade model, is equivalent to what concord or ducane would be.
@@MasonTaylor859 That's my understanding too - Armstrong Air is more mid-grade and a very good mid-grade brand. There's a number of good HVAC shops in my region that are Armstrong Air shops and they really like them for their reliability. I'm hearing they're a good middle-of-the-road price/value/reliability balanced option.
is cac/bdp from Carrier? good?
What about Lenox and Train how do they compare
Typically warranty term will vary among brands even when it's the same manufacturer.
I like to ask you a question about the size and the HVAC unit we just had installed last year. It's a four ton, SEER 14 with heat pump Tempstar. The house size is 1,920 sq ft. with 1600 to 1800 sq. ft. of total indoor space available for cooling and 12 vent register. I'm thinking about adding another one to the back room for additional 200 sq ft. that would make it a total of 1800 instead of 1600 sq. ft. I lives in Florida and it's hot where I lives. It's an old house built in the 60s. Is this unit big enough?
Hello! They are too many variables to answer your question. A proper Heat load calculation performed by a local HVAC company would answer your question 🙂
How is the 4 ton AC unit working out for you?
@TJ-22 was good, but the condenser was vibrating and it'd the compressor. What can I do to stop the vibration?
Hello! I’m about to get a Bryant preferred 96 two stage model 926T furnace with a preferred two stage 17 seer model 127A anything si should know about this system?
I’ll be paying $18,300 with 10 years warranty on parts and labor plus 10 years on the unit and lifetime warranty on the condenser.
Where are you located? That price would be very high here
@@NewHVACGuide that sounds like a California price to me🙄
Hi. I am in San Jose, California, planning to replace my old AC, the contractor offers me a Payne 4 tons, 14 seer for my 2150 sqft house. Is Payne is good enough as Bryant or Goodman? If i want a 16 seer Payne it costs $1000 more, should I go with it?
Payne is good. We have had a 10 seer payne for 12 years and only recently it needed some minor repairs. Definetly worth it based on the fact that the things that needed replaced lasted doubled its expectancy.
Personally, I'm not a fan of Payne... However, I recommend finding a contractor that gives you the warm fuzzies and go with what they recommend and sell in your local market. :-)
@@NewHVACGuide Also just to note - when one looks at Payne and WeatherMaker stuff (see their websites) they are exactly the same including model numbers and just the label differs. But what's happening is that they are getting rid of the Payne label and it has been moved to WeatherMaker. Sure there may still be new "Payne" stuff floating around but the brand is transitioning over to WeatherMaker. In fact a local Payne Distributor just told me that with their inventory of Payne units, they've been swapping them with the WeatherMaker label.
[I don't work in HVAC but called to ask because I might be shopping soon for new HVAC install]
I would still get a quote for a Bryant (step up from Payne/WeatherMaker) just to cover your bases to compare. Payne is fine as long as the install is done correctly but has a "cheap" branding to it and I'm just not fond of the look & feel of their 13/14 SEER AC units with the old-school wide-open wire grilles but other than that, should be fine. As mentioned in another reply here - Payne has moved to WeatherMaker branding.
Who makes carrier Mini splits now??? I was thinking about getting one until now
Midea and they are great units
Airquest is an ICP brand that is EXCELLENT
UTX merged with Raytheon and I believe was forced to sell off carrier to allow the deal to go through
Hi can you help I am in Central FL , I am trying to decide between tempstar that dealer is pushing vs Carrier , 4 Tons 18 Seer on the 2 Brands with price difference of of about $3000, with Variable 4 tons Air Handler , $13354 Carrier vs $10354 Tempstar, can you you help, I want the best I can that going to not give problems, what do you think of price also
Tempstar is an ICP product. ICP is owned by Carrier. Not sure if that changes anything for you but I’d worry more about finding a good installer and less about the brand
I've been quoted 3200 out the door for a payne 96% with ecm blower. Is that a deal or a low end machine? I just want to never worry about my furnace again once I spend the money.
Every market is different. Personally, I’m not a big fan of Payne. It’s Carrier’s builder grade brand.
Ill do it for $2950
Payne carrier junk. Carrier sucks. Trane Rheem
No comment 😉
We have had a good experience with payne, we have a 10 seer payne unit is 1w years old and only recently needed just over 100 dollars in new parts. Only times it's been serviced.
Hello what do you think of the Tempstar - NXH642GKA - 3-1/2 Ton 16 SEER Heat Pump Condenser R410A Tempstar - FXM4X4800AL - 4 Ton Multiposition Variable Speed TXV Air Handler R410A to give me 16seer, for a home in central florida… let say in comparison to a carrier with the same numbers?
Tempstar is a Carrier ICP product. Tomato tomahtah 🙂
@@NewHVACGuide omg thank you cause I see a better deal with another company and they are more attentive … and it’s 2300 less
Thanks for the info! I have a bid for a Carrier comfort series system 16 SEER for $6500 and a Trane bid for $9100 17 SEER XR16 Both are authorized dealers for their brand and rated as BBB A+. Background: The Trane dealer seems to have more employees does all work for the Home Depot’s in area and seems to give a discount from our area power line provider AEP compared to the carrier dealer has like 3 employees Less overhead? I live in south Texas in your opinion which system would be better to go with based on price, system, options and longevity?
Both are known to be premium brands. I’m not the biggest fan of Carrier. But I have friends that won’t install anything else.
@@NewHVACGuide thanks for your reply? Is $9100 for a 3 ton 17 seer xr16 single stage with a labor warranty of 1 year too expensive? This would include inside and outside unit (gas furnace) and installation isn’t difficult (normal) based on what severally installers say.
Every market is different pal. Depends on the tonnage, market, and company’s overhead. I recommend getting 3 quotes
@@NewHVACGuide For any of the Bryant Certified Installers, can someone tell me what a Bryant 284 Evolution 5 ton 24 SEER Heat Pump would cost for the unit and a 90+ efficient matching gas furnace? I'm looking at a new home construction in Massachusetts, but suspect a bottom of the barrel 14 SEER A/C condenser and furnace as the standard equipment. However, I want to insist on a more efficient ducted Heat Pump system with a gas furnace as the back up heat source.
Consumer Reports rates American Standard and Trane as most reliable with the best owner satisfaction, but I didn't find that their products to be as highly efficient as the Carrier/Bryant brands, which rank right behind them. I'd really appreciate what ever feedback you could provide so I can budget how much to spend for any specific equipment recommended.
Ok, but what are the Carrier systems compared to each other?
Not sure what you mean
Hello I have a 2000sq ft ranch home with a 35 year old Carrier furnace, electronic air filter, Aprilaire humidifier and AC. I am currently in the midst of putting on a small 7 x 25 ft addition. I have the option of eliminating the existing chimney or not. The chimney was to be eliminated to not become the elephant in the room.The heating and cooling installer for this project recommended Tempstar furnace ION series F96CTN and Tempstar Split system TSA6 including replacement of the air filter. After listening to this video I'm questioning if I'm making a costly mistake. If I want a high efficient furnace then I would definitely need to do it at this time to accommodate the newer duct work. Please give me feedback as to what you think. Would it be worth doing a high efficiency furnace, this particular model falls into the Best category? The AC is 16 SEER. Would I replace the electronic air filter with another for purer air intake or go for one that accommodates 4-5 inch thick pleated filters? Are Tempstar parts universal (not proprietary unique to the brand like Lennnox)?
Hello. I know folks that think ICP is the best. I would defer to your local contractor. Some brands are better in different markets because of suppliers and so on.
@HVAC Guide for Homeowners
Is Tempstar a builder grade HVAC unit?
A locally owned (Mom and Pop) reputable company sells only Tempstars currently, but when asked about switching a Carrier out with a 3ton 14 SEER single stage they said they would, at the same price and they said it would look like the exact same unit just with a Carrier badge. However, they don’t usually do that.
I own a 1547 sq ft house, but I want a two stage unit for the sake of better efficiency. With that said, I’ve leaned toward their 15 seer two stage Tempstar unit. The company can’t swap it out for a Carrier though like the 14 seer.
Another company in the same city has quoted me a Carrier 16 seer two stage with some other misc work (same as other company) for $898 more. Unlike the other company which is smaller, they said they could swap out any air unit that I wanted basically.
My question is, is Tempstar a builder grade unit, and is it comparable to Carrier? I’m confused with the smaller company willing to swap out a Carrier for the exact same price. I have a friend who works there who said they are almost the exact same unit, the company says that s well and they stand behind the product.
I just don’t want to walk away from getting a better unit for only a few hundred dollars more, and then be kicking myself in the long run. The Tempstar does come with a 10 year parts and labor warranty though, but with the other company, using Carrier, I would have to spend an extra $500 for the 10 year labor warranty (it already had 10yr parts).
What are your thoughts on that?
Tempstar is an ICP brand and is owned by Carrier. However, ICP is not the exact same equipment as Carrier. Carrier and Bryant are more of Cadillac, Tempstar is their Chevrolet, Payne is their Kia.
@@NewHVACGuide
Thank you for the reply, even on this older video. I went with the Tempstar, and so far I'm impressed with the unit, and the decreased decibel rating it has.
10yr parts, and labor warranty help also!
@@michaelhunter1642 that's awesome! Congrats!
I have trane unit that sweating a lot and is in the end of its lifetime. Today HVAC guy gave me a quote to replace my unit with temp star. Never heard about them and but from the price point it’s good in my area. My question is TEMPSTAR a good unit?
Tempstar is ICP. Decent reputation
Building a home I plan on staying in forever, it’s roughly 2300 sq ft. I don’t mind spending Money for a quality unit but I don’t want to waste money on just a name. What brand/model would you recommend?
That's a tough question. I don't think anyone brand is best in every market. I would highly recommend finding a contractor in your area that you love and then go with the brand that they love
@@NewHVACGuide Sounds good, they recommended AirEase made by Lennox.
Awesome. I’m not a huge fan of Lennox but most of my problems with them are due to local distribution and support. Not so much the products
I am in the market looking to replace my HVAC system. Please advise for a 2900 sq feet home. Would be really appreciated. Just turned Down the YORk brand.
Advise on what exactly? And I don’t blame you on turning that don’t ☺️
@@NewHVACGuide I want to know which one to get in Philadelphia area. Thank you for your reply. If you know a good company in Philadelphia Doylestown area. It would be helpful for me.
so helpful. I have spoken to 8 HVAC companies about replacing A/C and Furnace in a 2-story 1600 SF house with 8 ft ceilings, 9 vents, in sunny southern CA.
Some say I only need 3 ton A/C, Furnace & coil at 14 SEER, others say 3.5 condenser with 4 ton Furnace and coil at 16 SEER. Several recommend AC Pro, one installs Day N Night, one Goodman, one Rheem. I understand AC Pro is under the Allied umbrella of products. Should I stay away from any of the brands I mentioned?
Of the ones mentioned, Day and Night would be the only one that’s not a “builder grade” brand
What are your thoughts on Payne?
No comment 😉
Carrier is like IBM of HVAC.
Warranty may be anemic the jury is out
Is the carrier infinity a good unit
Top shelf buddy 👌
Hey, in the market for a new system and want to checkout your guide, but why do you have to log into your site to view that information, something like this I think drives more people away from it rather than to it.
It’s written like a book. So instead of buying a book, you are getting access to the guide. 🙂
I want to dead today. My problem is: NO hvac is available in the NYC for sales now. So i found not cheap solution with next week delivery: airquest HVA9+ airquest G80CTL + airquest END4X. this all devices controlled by Ion™ System Control and can i use my ecobee 4 instead of this Ion™ System Control? second questions: how much wires i should to use for thermostat connections(8 or 10 or 12)?
thanks!
I'd highly recommend hiring a pro
What's ur favorite brand for residential and why?
Daikin. Check out some of my videos on them. There's lots of reasons.
Can I get your feedback on this model (Payne pa14nc03600g). Thanks and nice video
Thanks pal. I may not be the person to ask on this. I have not had the best experience with Payne. Is that the unit your contractor is recommending?
AS of right now yes, live in Alabama
@@MichaelJohnson-ux7pe Gotcha. I've had some issues with them in the past. I tell people to call a Carrier guy if they want a Payne.
ok thank you
I have a Lennox cbx32mv air handler in my addict The txv valve is leaking can it be replaced can't find the part anywhere 2.5 ton A man came to my house said that I needed a new coil the coils aren't leaching the leak is in the txv where the 4 copper line are coming out of the top of the cap can it be soldered thanks.
can animals get into the vent thats on my house - ? sometimes i thinks somethings inside that vent pipe
the furnace vent - for high efficiency venting -
Is weathermaker a carrier product ?
yes
F96VTN1202422A any good?
I have 3 kids and have had 3 baby carriers, this being the third and BEST one. My first one was a high end brand that was clunky and complicated. My second was a wrap style which was not easy to use which = me not using it. This is easy to put on yourself and get the baby in and it’s low profile; it reminds me of putting on a backpack. I highly recommend!
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Out of American Standard, Carrier, and Trane hvac heating/cooling systems;?how do you rank them ?
American Standard and Trane are exactly the same company, manufacturing, and products. Every market is different, but in mine, they’re both above Carrier in my opinion and experiences
@@NewHVACGuide ,
Would you recommend a Carrier over an Amana 14 SEER 3 Ton Unit?
Depends on your market. In my market, there aren’t many Amana dealers. However Carrier is an inferior product overall in my opinion.
No Amana/Goodman products
Hey pal. We had the same issues with the T6s a while back. As far as Carrier goes, in our market, the parts are outrageous in price. You have to sit on hold for hours on end to get someone sometimes. We’ve had compressors and coils bad straight from the factory. We have a Bryant customer with Carrier/Bryant zoning and the unit locks out on compressor heat overload. They’ve sent out reps and ultimately said they don’t know what’s wrong. We didn’t install it. So maybe a good vac and good brazing practices weren’t followed? Not sure. I’m glad you like them. I have other friends that do too! But I truly believe they’re inferior to Daikin and Trane. They don’t even make their ductless units. Just my opinion. Thanks!
So from what i am understanding... Find out who is best supported in your area. I hear both on Amana. Its the one recomended to me but they want 3k markup compared to what i can get myself.
Was thinking a bosch unit. But if i cant get parts.. Then i need to rethink.
@@NewHVACGuide I have a Carrier 2 stage ac from 2007 now the compressor has the compressor heat overload issue and wont get very cold:( time to look for another brand...
I'm in the market to replace my 2 ac units I got to good quote from 2 excellent rated companies the 1st is
Comfortmaker full replacement for 14900
2nd is
American standard full replacement for 16000
Which is best both offer the filters and 10 year parts and labor
Awesome. Are you going to get more quotes or go with one of those?
@@NewHVACGuide got 4 quotes these was the best 2 not sure which one to pick
$15,000-$16,000??? For 2 AC units??. You have to be kidding. AC units are not anywhere near that price. They must be putting $10,000 profit in their pocket.
@@richardromanik7845 that's actually the cheapest I got the most expensive was 28000 maybe the prices are different in texas
Online you can buy the units for 2-3 thousand depending on your house size. Don't see how they can charge so much labor. Installation is not a big deal.
my parents have a 1988 carrier unit and still going my neighbors just bought a bryant unit and it appears smaller and louder than the carrier go figure
I own a Coleman two and a half ton electric heat inside it has been great 28 years old so I'm thinking I will go to a 14 seer to keep it simple that has less components to go bad thinking that Carrier and Bryant sell higher seer units for government approval for energy efficiency ratings.
Not a bad philosophy.
icp whoop whoop
haha!