Audiences and Echo Chambers, A Look at The Rubin Report
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- A history of The Rubin Report and its relationship with its audience. All the stats were calculated by me, and accurate roughly a few weeks before the time of this video's upload. Any changes to the numbers that have happened since are outside of my control, though if things get super weird, I could be convinced to release an update to this video.
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Prager: You're such a useful vehicle for our agenda.
Rubin: No, no, I really have my own ideas.
Prager: Yes, yes, good little boy.
I read prager in Darth sidious' voice...
Niall Almond Yea, that was a bit hard to watch.
@@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat there is no other voice that fits, really.
So I only ever see that short clip of that interaction and I gotta say its not inherintly bad. The way he says that someone is helpful to the movement is absolutely normal. Why would you not say thinks like that if its true?
Of course we do know that Rubin is just a tool for the right but we don't know it from the clip. It's nice for a joke but some people act as if its actual proof for Rubin beeing a tool and it absolutely is not.
@@dereinzigwahreRahl well, normally you don't say that to someone _within_ the movement itself, at least not in patronizing way like that. Rubin's entire point is him being an "outsider" to conservative movement who panders to conservative view on things anyway.
I think the best description of Dave I've read was that he's the kind of person whose deeply held beliefs mirror those of the last person he talked to. He seems like a nice guy, he just can't seem to remember why he used to think anything he used to think.
I think you are very correct, I feel like Dave really has sine cognitive/learning (and/or memory) difficulties. I'm not even joking. And it's sad really, because it's not fun at all to live with such difficulties.
People who constantly complain about "regressives" and how they would vote Trump over a progressive and have relaxed chats with people like Molyneux or Milo or Gavin McInnes are not nice people. People who are gay and yet are friendly with homphobes like Shapiro who wouldn't invite them to their wedding are not nice people.
@Skippy the Alien Dave Rubin the character seems nice; Dave Rubin the person is a self-seeking ass
I agree
I can't help but take that slightly personally.
Watching Prager basically saying Rubin is just a useful idiot to his face was so surreal
He's the first of many.
Dave Rubin has not interviewed a single leftist since this video was made.
Untrue - see, for example, recent interviews with Bret Weinstein and Tim Pool. The tour of Australia with Peterson has taken a huge chunk of his time recently, and Peterson is left of centre. If you disagree with that, your definition of 'left' is just wrong.
Like they would appear anyway? As Andy says, your statement is untrue.
@@andywells8890 Aha, if I don't agree that Jordan Peterson is left of centre my definition is "just wrong"? How about your defintion is wrong? Bret Weinstein may be somewhat liberal, but he surely isn't what you would call a "leftist". I think Dave is doing well not to interview serious people on the left, as he already made a complete fool of himself that one time he did an interview on David Pakmans show.
But in the end, he made a fool of himself on the Joe Rogan Show so it seems this isn't something that is hard to achieve. Dave Rubin simply knows nothing
@@adammonks591 Sam Seder has said a thousand times that he wants to debate Dave. My gosh someone put a question to Dave on his AMA about this topic, he just weaseled through it, not answering the question.
Better have Katie Hopkins on the show, lumping all the critique of her together as "SJW witchhunt" to present her as some poor conservative victim. She was fired from the SUN, wanna read the article, here: www.gc.soton.ac.uk/files/2015/01/hopkins-17april-2015.pdf
Also, did Rubin read the tweets that promted the police visit? Here: www.google.com/search?q=katie+hopkins+final+solution+tweet&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=Urva61dOHvvA5M%253A%252C4ghfPv8Plp_VpM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSmJdMBHfKSphtCbwn-G1gVZVMHog&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwji-aDCvfrgAhUyMewKHTI3CvgQ9QEwAHoECAQQBA#imgrc=Urva61dOHvvA5M:
Does this sound like someone who just voiced their harmless conservative opinion and was then "victim of a SJW-witchhunt" or does it more sound like someone so despicable that even the SUN couldn't continue working with her
@@leo9753 nice diatribe. Pity it isn't relevant to what I said though. What's your point? Or lack thereof...
Update: Rubin is still running away from Sam Seder.
Now joined by Cold Feet Crowder
@@TTTristan1 surprised his feet are still cold from all the running away he's been doing
Update: This man has some lungs, because he is still running.
Still running.
Crowder is also afraid of the number 54. Especially when talking about global warming.
I used to watch The Rubin Report, mainly because of my "anti-SJW" stance. Then I got repeatedly called an "SJW" in the comments section just because I expressed my concerns about the the lack of ideological diversity regarding Dave's selection of guests. It got clear to me that this channel wasn't actually controlled by Dave, but his audience, one that increasingly became more and more right-wing. This is a perfect example of how echo chambers work.
Yup
bro was the main guy who was against echo chambers, due to their ability to radicalize individuals into a political extreme. yet he's the same one being radicalized by his own echo chamber. ironic
I was told to rot in hell and to stop spreading my SJW agenda by the Project Veritas crowd after merely pointing out a contradiction.
The internet made it too easy for people to be fed only content the reinforce their beliefs. These sheeples honestly think everyone agree with them but a few evil outsiders because they don't have to engage with the truth or different ideas.
"Diversity of opinion" is just a taking point. They don't actually believe in it. Actually, they don't have many convictions at all except those that actively hurt people.
Yeah I got algorithmed into thinking the modern left was horrific (parts of it anyway) after living under a rock for a decade with no media or social media other than movies for escapism...it was just a horrible time in my life and you see people like Big Red and mugs with "male tears" on them and that keeps getting put in front of your face and I was like - well this isn't good. This isn't what we used to be about.
Rubin: I will hold Trump's feet to the fire, because boots taste better when they're warm :p
lmao rubin's idea of "holding [someone's] feet to the fire" is more like, _giving someone a gentle foot rub while they relax in an armchair by a cosy fireplace_
I
UH-GUH-REEEE
WITH THAT
That is a great fucking comment.
SAVAGE (and accurate)!
🤣
If there's one thing I learned from this video is that to never let the audience control the narrative of your own show.
Why do you mind so much that Rubin is not objective nad anti-left? I mean there are hundreds of news platforms that are clearly anti-right. So it is quite logical that there is no point for Rubin to copy them.I am fine with Rubin. He makes the content that the people long for. He found his audience and there is nothing sad about it. If I wanna see the left point of view I choose a different youtube channel. Is it really that difficult? Why all the hating?
@@Pipervojta it ain't hating. It's just my observation.
same thing has happened to joe rogans show
@@Pipervojta
"mean there are hundreds of news platforms that are clearly anti-right. So it is quite logical that there is no point for Rubin to copy them."
There are hundreds of platforms that are clearly anti-left so why did he copy them?
"I am fine with Rubin. He makes the content that the people long for. He found his audience and there is nothing sad about it."
Oh really? He makes content that some people want? No way. I guess then we cannot criticize him because that's how a free exchange of ideas looks like. /s
"If I wanna see the left point of view I choose a different youtube channel. Is it really that difficult? Why all the hating?"
What are you doing here then? If you don't want to see left point of view then choose a different youtbe channel.
You claim to be a fan of Rubin and yet you are confused why people would inform themselves about different ideas. Are you sure you know what you are even a fan of Rubin?
Piper P it isn’t all the hating. Because as Dennis prager himself stated, having someone whose clearly right leaning but consistently presents themselves as centrist or classic liberal is more useful to their narratives than a right leaner or centrist conservative who simply states theyre conservative. It’s the fact that he isn’t as honest as he claims about how he politically classifies. or that it’s irrelevant even if he is a classical liberal, if his platform, audience and funding all largely come from the right. This wolf in sheep’s clothing (right leaner in central left clothing) allows the likes of Dennis prager to tout him around as evidence of the rights political tolerance and be like “see, even a liberal that hates the left” that’s stronger than a conservative who’s already against leftist ideals. So it’s not about hating, just be honest about who you actually are
“Sure, the right is bad, but its the lefts fault!”
-Every word that leave’s Rubin’s mouth
This is so accurate.
"There are some real racists in the mix but we don't know who they are."
This is like putting a random assortment of blank and live cartridges into a magazine and just firing wildly and then getting mad when people ask them to stop.
This analogy doesn't work cos they're doing racist shit no matter what so it's more like firing all regular bullets but saying some of those bullets, secretly deep down in their hearts don't agree with the murder they're involved in
@@lilyk3734 Blanks aren't entirely harmless so I think it works.
@@downsjmmyjones101 they are different to regular bullets though and largely the people being called ironic memers here aren't doing anything different to the "actual racists". My point is how sincerely an action is taken doesn't change that it's, still like the same action with the same effect and moral implications
@@lilyk3734 I'm not sure they're doing the same thing.
@@downsjmmyjones101 okay but like. They are? Whatever someone's intention, the effect of saying something racist won't change bcos of it. The effect of someone being racist cos it's a joke to them and they don't take racism seriously and unironic support for white nationalism is, nonexistent in an anonymous medium you aren't bothering to like. Give people deep onsignt into your personal life with which to gauge the intention and relevance of what you said. Ironically promoting fascism will still, promote fascism. If their intentions visibly leaked into their actions they would be satirising the alt right not being the alt right
I used to view Rubin and I felt my self pulled to the right, but I got myself out of there as I saw it going the way of an echo chamber.
Same
But you're in an echo chamber now. And lefties have the most echo chambers too.
Adam Monks “assertions are presumed to be true because a person said it,]”...wtf? Assertions are just assertions: things someone says. Truth can only be attributed through analysis based on fact and reasoning. You would have to provide examples of things you consider echo chambers on the left and then illustrate the attributes that would define them as an echo chamber. You know, kind of like the guy actually did in this video.
@@BGcam "assertions are just assertions: things someone says" - Incorrect, there was no flaw in my reasoning.
assertion
/əˈsəːʃ(ə)n/Submit
noun
noun: assertion; plural noun: assertions
a confident and forceful statement of fact or belief.
"his assertion that his father had deserted the family"
You seem to be misinformed, the author of the video didn't highlight anything. They wrongly attribute the fact that leftists won't debate centrists and right wingers to the phenomenon on these people remaining in echo chambers. As stated, it is only the left which keeps in an echo chamber. TYT never interview anyone who isn't extreme left, Twitter and TH-cam (being progressive organisations) platform centrists and right-wingers but left-wingers (or so a vastly smaller degree), Zizek refuses to debate Jordan. I mean I can go on, but the cherry on top would be that Jack Dorsey even stated himself that left-wingers only follow each other while centrists and right-wingers follow everyone.
Maybe do a little research before posting next time.
@@adammonks591 "They wrongly attribute the fact that leftists won't debate centrists and right wingers to the phenomenon on these people remaining in echo chambers. As stated, it is only the left which keeps in an echo chamber."
Good point. You go tell that leftist coward Sam Seder to man up and debate Dave Rubin.
The amount of times he says "regressive" removed any meaning of it. Rubin ends up feeling so bland. Just meh
"I uh-gree" -Dave Rubin
Lol
Conservatism is regressive by definition. They’re all about tradition and the status quo. They’re inherently reactionary.
@@unslaadkrosis3489 remember how he said he's "reactionary about freedom"? Lol
@@unslaadkrosis3489That is not what conservatives want, and I suggest you take a look at some conservative policy propositions. Both conservatives and progressives want to change the way the country is run. Conservative's want to shrink the government and progress as a society with a free market. Progressives often lean towards socialist ideals, and want to use the government to craft their perfect society. Big government and socialism are not new ideas, and they should not be considered progressive ideas. It's very condescending to say conservatism is reactionary, when we have literally been saying the same things for decades while socialist policies and various government programs continue to fail. I work for the government as a civilian, and I also work for the state in the national guard, and I have seen first hand how inefficient the government is on almost every level.
Unslaad Krosis we’ll both sides want to change things, just in different ways. Thing is, when they’re elected they don’t change anything.
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Dave the Non-Regressive Rubin?
Ah yes, the tale of Darth Rubin the liberal. Did you know he found a way to bring back the free speech he loved?
Is it possible to learn this power?
Ironic. He could save others from their echo chambers, but not himself.
Rubin and Sargon were the start of my downfall. I was completely played.
Yh your not alone
Same here. I never liked Sargon much but ate up JP and Rubin to an extend.
Check out Kyle Kulinksi, The Kavernacle and Hakim for based and diverse takes
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan Haha, "based". A real connoisseur.
We all were...
When someone BUYS you a house in Southern California, you'll do whatever they want (what really happened to Rubin)
Dave Rubin ultimately pushed me further left. After realizing my open mind was just being taken advantage of, I started connecting the dots with Shapiro, Milo, Peterson, etc, and realized their entire rise is just to make opposing everything left seem cool, more open-minded and more intellectual when in reality it is just rebranded protection for inequality, power, greed and suspicion of non-whites, non-Christians and non-Capitalists or even critique of Capitalism. I should actually thank Rubin and Peterson, because I now enjoy exploring socialist ideas instead of just pretending to be a left-center Capitalist.
I'm a soc-dem and I find much of what Peterson says to be incredibly valuable. Am I insane or something?
@@canoli8Maybe. Peterson does have great personal advice. My problem is the way JP and his followers talk about the world as black and white. If the problem is that people are lazy, then all the world needs is work ethic, right? Their anarcho-Capitalist utopia leaves little room to discuss hard-working people who are exploited, are dirt poor, have no healthcare, etc. They seem obsessed with validating anarcho-capitalism by dwelling on the existence of lazy people with problems. Until the lazy are hard working like Peterson, everyone should shut up and stop trying to fix society.
@@RanderMinn
I've seen him say many times that said injustices are present, as it would be erroneous to assert the opposite, but that the assessment of one's own behavior should be top priority. But I can definitely see why one might think he ignores them. In a way his black and white approach has allowed him to carve a niche, with the incels perhaps, so it's worked to his and their benefit. That being said, for those who don't resonate with his self-help stuff, they can see his more glaring downsides very blatantly. I'm at least able to remain nuanced with him, so I see the good in what he's doing. Still potentially insane.
@@canoli8 I usually enjoy listening to Jordan Peterson. My problem with him, however, is that he to some degree perfectioned the art of elaborately saying nothing. Many of his statements are perfectly right but carefully avoid demonstrating any solutions.
Since he doesn't suggest any solutions, interviewers often try to read between the lines to project political statements to his words - and, since Peterson is smart, they obviously fail doing that.
However, this kind of non-statements lead to audiences projecting their own views into Peterson's words and feeling confirmed if he again "destroys" (not his own words) some journalist.
If Peterson states that there a differences between men and women, people feel strengthened in their mysogynistic prejudice. If Peterson states that people should care about themselves before they try to care about the others, people feel strengthened in their libertarian ideas. If he states, that christianity shaped the modern western society, people feel strengthened in their religious beliefs.
Of course, Peterson didn't say and didn't intend any of that. But nevertheless he strengthens those viewpoints by being too unspecific to disprove them.
@@cerotidinon
I understand that on a general level. However, a lot of comments he makes, without giving the prescriptive statements you accurately say are lacking, he'll conclude with a verbally stated absence of a solution. Is it stirring the cauldron of rising misogyny? Maybe. Not sure.
Peterson will state a truth, which he probably thinks to be innocuous, he's come across through his studies. Then, he will say something tantamount to, "Well, I dunno wat todo abote et, eh? I'm jost saeying that thes is true according to tha literahture!" I understand why this is somewhat problematic, and I would even argue that these scenarios are where the "that's not what I mint!" meme came from. He will state something that is more or less empirically true, not talk about it further, then default to the aforementioned Petersonism when pressed for that prescription.
That being said, he makes prescriptive claims frequently, and I don't think you were saying that he never does. After all, his famed book is essentially 12 prescriptive claims. Nevertheless, there is a respective absence for those prescriptions regarding women (which is what I assume you were hinting at, by and large).
Thank you for including JP crying over an animation. I was not aware of this phenomenon. 😂
I mean there are legit sad and beautifl scenes in many animated movies and shows that does make one cry, but pinnicio? Really?
@@MetalShag something hit home and that's fair enough. But it's really funny
Give it five years, and when it's lucrative to do so, Rubin will make a transition back to center, and have all the talking points about "My nightmarish experience with conservatism" or some such.
Maybe. But I see a trend over decades in the U.S. of everything shifting more to the right, especially the more established the thing in question is. In mass media, in economics, in politics, in voices heard and broadcast to the majority of people, the actual left is marginalized and the right has dominated. Perhaps because the system itself, neoliberalism or maybe fundamentally corporatism via capitalism itself is right-authoritarian, and probably only right-authoritarian (like IBM dealing with Hitler) because it's more profitable than dealing with governments that are democratic or liberal libertarians that are less likely to allow the few to keep hoarding all the money without worrying about representing the masses. Liberal libertarians are also less likely to support wars, foreign intervention, or the fueling of the "military industrial complex" than right-authoritarians or their apologists. Most outlets and both parties are thoroughly right-wing, it's now a matter of one being hard right and the other being off the spectrum.
In any case, I'm sure it's _possible_ that someone like Rubin could transition away from the right, but it doesn't make any sense in his case to me given the apparent affiliation of large portions of his audience, which have been shifting rightward just as surely as the two parties and the big media have shifted.
@@mikeisapro Yeah, it's worrying to see such shift occur so rapidly. Here on youtube, I'm hopeful for the insurgence of leftist content, even tho the left continues to be heavily marginalized in the actual political discourse. Maybe that right shift has to do with the rise of corporativism as you said.
@@pedroocm I believe it's been happening for the last 40-50 years really, since the neoliberal period starting with late Carter and really taking off with Reagan and beyond. The 80s also saw propaganda in mass media become significantly more effective.
Although there is at least this "new left" resurgence, and the word socialism is becoming less of a pejorative, the big money which is funneled into big media, both political parties, etc. is overtly right wing and is pretty dominant in the country regardless of the attitudes and beliefs and perspectives of the growing number of the working poor citizens, who are disenfranchised, disorganized and marginalized effectively enough for their cause not to matter much.
I'd be willing to bet his "awakening" was accompanied by the sound of a cash register ringing.
31:21 This is very telling. Prager almost says “You’re very useful” but catches himself.
"Ironic shit post nazis with real Nazis in their ranks"
That's a distinction without a difference.
A concept that is approaching a hundred years old; relevant:
"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. " -- Sarte
As the saying goes: "If there's a Nazi at a table and ten other people taking with him, you're looking at a table with eleven Nazis."
Oh God I had never seen the video of Jordan Peterson crying over Pinocchio hahahahahahaha I am genuinely laughing outloud at home alone like a lunatic right now. This is too much
I know right? I didn't laugh but was genuinely taken aback, this guy who is very big on machismo, who called Crowder pathetic for being mugged, was crying over that. Its so real, like we should be allowed to cry and feel emotions over things we perceive to be important, but coming from JBP who say you shouldn't gender people properly is so bizarre
Wow lol
He just wants to be a real boy is all! 😩😂
Rubin isn't a talk show host, he's an infomercial pitchman.
that seems to be the career trajectory of every right ng pundit; selling right-wing politics in between selling some form of herbal dick pills
I think the proper word is propagandist
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Won’t be long before Rubin is having on Alex jones and trying to tap into that audience
Assuming Jones doesn't go belly-up from the lawsuits, this seems like a solid prediction.
As a ”voice of reason” no doubt...
Scary but true.
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And José of course :)
@@JoseBird Fancy meeting you here
I really hope we get to see a Rubin vs Seder debate some day. That will be really fun.
Rubin would pummel Seder. Seder is nonsense
@@thiruvalluvar3880 everyone just sees Rubin as a joke now!
@@georgegreig8054 not really..
Y'all leftists can't take a mirror, can you??
@@thiruvalluvar3880 Yeah Rubin is afraid to face Seder because of how much he would destroy Seder, right totally makes sense.
Rubin is a total idiot, but Seder is the liberal Ben Shapiro.
"You are so useful to us as a jew." I had to pause the video just to process that. Yikes
Wait, when was THAT?
When Dennis Prager said Ruben is useful to him as a leftist
@@evanbarth7173 the person below gave the answer. To be fair those werent his exact words but when you see the clip I'm sure you'll agree that I'm not exactly twisting his words.
An enemy stand okay, I’ve seen it now, and can confirm that it’s basically what he said. Thanks!
@@anenemystand5582 love your username btw
"I think he'll have to govern from the centre"
I'm from the future, and so I can say HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Dave rubin is a hack and I used to respect him but his garbage interview style and inept "opinions" really makes me see how deluded he is.
I see. He is deluded because he doesn´t share your opinions.
@@Pipervojta Sometimes people are just stupid, piper
Piper P That comment is a Perfect encapsulation of Right-Wing thought: twist words until they fit the paradigm you had already decided was the prevailing belief on the left, then attack that constructed caricature as being antithetical to the values we actually do hold, which has the effect of always portraying us as hypocritical, dishonest actors. You literally cannot ever be wrong because you define not only the parameters of the discussion, but viewpoints that either party embodies. It’s not even clever cause you’re just moving the goalposts whenever it suits you. Don’t like how someone’s talking about your favorite ‘liberal’ free speech warrior? Just claim that any criticism of his complete lack of ideology as lefties getting mad that his views are different than theirs, nevermind that those views are impossible to summarize because rave dubin has no beliefs. Seriously, how do people like rave or bench appearo or crowder build any sort of audience when they are ALWAYS being dishonest?
2015 Dave Rubin - "I will constantly stand for liberal values"
2020 Rubin - "I'm voting for Donald Trump because of THE LEFT"
I've watched a few of your videos and you do a really good job! Please keep it up, TH-cam and the Internet politics world needs more content like yours
"more content that I agree with"
@@davetyler6520 Yeah, you lefties do need a big echo chamber right?
@@adammonks591 Oh no. We love exploring the right wing side of TH-cam and laughing our asses off at all of the conspiracy theory nonsense that gets spewed from it (Stefan Molyneux is a particular favorite of mine), as well as the obligatory getting triggered by progressives for darning to say things like gender is a social construct (It is), or that Capitalism is an immoral system (It is).
@@Odinsday the irony of you accusing others (not me, I'm centre left) of conspiracies and then mentioned some of your own. That's quite the non sequitur. 😂😂😂
DustyO'Rusty plus you do only follow other lefties in general Jack Dorsey even stated it himself.
@@adammonks591 Because liking one channel that you agree with means that you never, ever listen to the views of those with whom you disagree? What a leap of logic
Really well put together video!
My guess for Rubin is that come the time of the 2020 election, no matter who the Democrats put forward, even if theyre the most dull centrist candidate, Rubin will lump them into "The crazy far left" and will stick with Trump. That is unless the growing backlash against him gets to the point that he reconsiders his politics again.
But Trump will probably win. And so far there has not been a solid candidate who would be able to beat Trump. That is not Rubin´s fault.
@@Pipervojta Bernie would handily kick Trump's ass, unless you're trying to make the point that Americans on average, are likely to reelect the incumbent president regardless of how awful a candidate they are, but somehow I doubt that was the case. If Democrats select a candidate like Bernie who can actually motivate their base (or as they're referred to in my neck of the woods, an "anti-Hillary") then Trump is as good as gone, but it's up in the air as to whether the establishment will win out this early in the primary season, obviously. Regardless, I'm of the singularly spicy hot take that Biden could beat Trump if he wins the primary, but to say none of the current candidates could beat Trump just shows an ignorance of the political realities of the left\moderate mechanics at work in the Democratic party today. I mean, Hillary "superpredators" Clinton beat Trump by 3 million votes, Biden could do it in his sleep, even if he had to out-grope Mr "grab em by the pussy" to do it.
He will go with whatever line that gets him the most money. Like he's always done.
@oo0O0 Put together very well for the Leftist ECHO CHAMBER lol
Ha hes so gay!
Rarely comment on anything anymore these days, but have to say that this is such a diligent and thoughtful, fair, yet devastating analysis. Chapeau. All the best for you and your channel!
I dont think rubin is too soft on his guests. I think hes just dumb.In order for Rubin to push back on his guests arguments, he would first have to understand them.
Jose you have the most calming, lovely voice and you explain your points so well
Guarantee he's a virgin
at 9:33 when you say "on the left or center", it times perfectly with Milo pointing to the left and then center of my screen in a satisfying way.
Oh thank you, that was so satisfying 🤭
This man has no eyebrows. Strange fashion choice.
cadence navigator DAMNIT I CAN NEVER UNSEE THAT
Fuck you man I cant unsee it
Ben Shapiro stole them and gave them to his sister
his make up also doesn't blend into his neck 😭
According to Ana, Rubin left TYT because they couldn't pay him $150k for his little, once a week, 30 minute panel show.
Yep. Here's the video where she first says it: th-cam.com/video/RmHY04YtfQE/w-d-xo.html
Unfortunately, that segment was aired on June 26, so it couldn't have been included in this video.
That makes sense
Yeah.. Ana Kasparian is an idiot
Ana "I'm fucking better than you" Kasparian is a political hack
@@thiruvalluvar3880 Ana "Integrity" Kasparian. Rubin is a hack and time proved her right.
His brain is currently on recovery mode
'Rubins brand of comedy' He does jokes?
It would be way to easy to say "he is the joke". It would also be accurate.
And they suck so he took the Ben Shapiro way. Blame Hollywood rather than his lack of talent and became a lazy propagandist.
You do consistently great informative work and I hope your channel blows up. I'm writing this to put my pebble on the scales of the almighty algorithm.
lol, I love how he complained about "the left labeling anyone they don't like as racists" while he and his lot do the exact same thing except with "SJW"
Dave Rubin posting that he and his husband were having a baby and then immediately getting roasted and called a groomer/pedophile by the very people he propped up on his show year after year will never not be hilarious. I have no idea why he thought he would receive support from the people who constantly denounce homosexuality as debauchery but whatever. I would almost feel sorry for him if he had a ‘come to Jesus’ moment and realize what he had done, but my man is committed to the grift even if it is at the expense of his dignity
One of his kids was suppose to be born on August 22. He hasn't posted any updates as of now.
Peterson cries for Pinocchio because in the end, they're both just puppets.
Such a beautiful burn, it's perfect
You deserve FAR MORE than 1k subscribers. Keep this up & it won’t be long. Thank you for the great content! 🙌🏼
Uo to 19k now 7 months since your comment. Good sign i think
Almost 55K now.
100k+
@@wallywallendo I knew he’d start getting the recognition he deserves. 👍🏼
Three years later and the channel is nearly at 200K subscribers (25K to go).
I recently discovered your videos and really enjoy them, this one in particular was a brilliant analysis. If Rubin had made a totally natural and organic drift from left to right I would have disagreed but would have continued watching as I'm genuinely interested in the exchange of ideas and love hearing from honest, intellegent conservatives. Rubin is neither of those things, I don't even know how he looks himself in the mirror and I'm saying that as someone who was once a regular viewer of his solo show after the break from TYT.
It's easy to do when the Koch brothers buy you a house (really happened, look it up)
I got tears in my eyes at the clip where Dr Peterson cried over Pincchio :)
The Rubin Report does not need Rubin to be there.
pretty good point honestly lol. He should just let the right winger nazi types he invites onto the show to simply run wild. He doesn't need to be there for that since that's pretty much what his show is anyways lol.
Absolutely. Whenever he does not have a guest on, you see an empty room with him in it.
Someone should download this video in case it gets taken down.
By who?
This is a great example of audience-gullible creators. You can't just follow everything your followers believe or say, there's an extent where If you stand your ground, not in opposition, but in defense to conserve your values and ideals, that you'll be liked more.
Excellent. Best criticism of Rubin I've already seen, especially the final commentary on the free-market place of ideas.
You did a great job on this video - I hope your channel grows.
Just found your channel bit you’ve quickly become one of my favorite video essayists
Very well made! This is good stuff, keep it up!
I cant stop staring at rubins mouth when he talks.
All that I’m hearing this guy cares about is
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Just say it, it's because he's...
You know you want to.
@@adammonks591 ... bought and paid for by the Koch-Brothers.
@@leo9753 not actually true. Zero points to you.
@@adammonks591 "the Rubin Report is partnered financially with Learn Liberty, a think-tank started by the Institute for Humane Studies." "the Institute not only receives generous donations from Charles G. Koch, Koch also sits on its board of directors" medium.com/@guineverefry/the-intellectual-dark-web-is-a-billionaire-funded-echo-chamber-8c8981b79e01
@@adammonks591 You sound like a complete mouth breeder in every last of your comments
You've captured the essence of The Unscrupulous Report.
Watching Jordan Peterson cry over Pinocchio, presumably because he wants to be a real philosopher boy too, is like the most amazing thing I've ever seen.
Took the words out of my head
My favorite description of Rubin comes from Three Arrows: "he hates SJWs so much he started believing in trickle-down economics"
Rubin will regret his switch when he relieses the rightwing will curb stomp him.
Steven Richter the most satisfying thing is seeing Milo bitching on Parler about how trump is a selfish asshole who he ruined his own life for and how he’s now dedicating his life to destroying the GOP. I would Love to see him actually stick too it. The hilarious irony would entertain me
7:20 Speaking of which...you should do a follow up on Milo. I hear he's having some financial problems 🤣
Review it yourself you pussy piece of shit! Nothing wrong with Rogan, stop making the left sound like such dorks!
Some Entitlement issues who said anything about Rogan? Calm down
@@TheMiels ha , I'm sorry, I have obviously commented this in the wrong place! Some leftie groupie types piss me off is all. I consider myself a left leaning fellow and think policing our own 'politically correct people' is important. Nothing fucking wrong with Rogan though, so please dont start that shit with me
@@mrtambourineman6107 you seem really, really angry. consider therapy before calling strangers names.
Jean Sanchez you are what you eat
Really great production/content. I'm sure I am not alone in asking that you make a video on how you create a video like this, including how you source and integrate the news clips etc and develop/produce the narrative.
Thanks for this.
Oh, and forgot to say... regarding the content, a genuinely persuasive analysis.
It is quite sad that many akin to Rubin are likely motivated by thier own needs and ego, rather than truth and benefiting the greater good.
Wow, really well done. Thanks a lot for this!
What an undertaking! This is Grade A stuff!
Thank you!
Agreed
Lil Wage except with actual substance
So basically , he knows precisely what he’s doing and did not stumble onto anything .
With years of experience, his ability to attract an audience is honed .
"No, you're done." Harsh.
This is a truly fantastic profile of the fall of Rubin.
Just found your channel. Great work summarizing Rubin's rise!
Fabulous analysis. Keep up the great work!
I'm amazed anyone takes Rubin seriously anymore. Just take a look at his last few guests. I'm hoping the Peterson article today will wake a few people up to his schtick too.
what article is this?
What article is this?
Have you ever heard any of their culture members talk? They're fucking morons and socially ostracized men (virtually ALLLLLLLL men) who think that anyone who feels that there is something unjust going on in the world are just whining (real sociopathic mentality) and who love to say how "The Left are afraid of honest debate," but never debate anyone and usually piss people off everyone with their utter stupidity and blatant soft-boy-bigotry.
WHAT ARTICLE ?
What article!! I always love to read things that shit on JP
Great work man
Dude amazing analysis by the way. You just got a new subscriber. Thanks for the video
Excellent job with the research! Your attention to detail is impressive and I learned a lot!
I remember the time when I might have followed Rubin due to following other similar voices. The thing that really made me finally just leaving those channels and unsubscribing was on most part the repetitive content more or less the same type of "crazy sjws" that don't really hold any power, the messaging being more and more towards being conservative, dumb takes to appear smart, and finally when promising to criticize Trump, the same people not doing it.
I think it's interesting that they call people who would be considered progressive regressive instead. It's an interesting form of double speak nobody really mentions
Doublethink and -speak is prevalent among right wingers. Leftists are simulatenously a bunch of whiny safe-space seeking losers as well as the single gravest danger to western society.
I'm really digging your videos. Thanks for the content.
I watched The Rubin Report with a relatively open mind the first season, and while the repeated usage of regressive and anti-left sentiment was clear, I did actually start to believe that there was a genuine large scale issue with a segment of the left pushing a brand of restrictive identitarian and authoritarian politics. Of course, the message did not line up and it was very quick to see that he was conflatating the weaponized identity politics from the liberal establishment, with the left of center concern for social injustices -and how he by doing this essentially eliminated any concern for social structures . I think it is quite clear at this point that this is not ignorance, but a very conscious choice to propagandize for a hard right worldview.
The legendary "Identity Politics are manipulated by people in power, but the root causes of popular support for identity politics are legitimate" stance.
You have earned 1,000,069 free think points. Here's a cookie.
i can totally relate to this. for a time, i thought there was a real large scale "identity politics problem" with Leftist as well. Man, was i an idiot.
@@phangkuanhoong7967 No, there are people on the left who are too overly sensitive around identity issues, it's not just liberals. But they're nowhere near the numbers Rubin and company make them out to be.
@@joepeake8972 yup. i've noticed too :) thanks for pointing it out :)
@@joepeake8972 Likewise, there are people on the right who are hella sensitive about identity issues, but they will pretend they hate idpol no matter how you push them.
I kinda like Dave but haven’t watched anything of his for quite a while because he was just having people on the right and the conversation just kept being the same things recycled over and over again
18:00 man that didn't age so well after the attacks in NZ did it?
Its interesting to look back at this era. From 2014 to 2016 I was watching most of these guys' content out of curiosity. Dave Rubin, Milo, PJW, Sargon, etc. I would watch live streams of Milo's college tours too. Then I realized I was being pulled into the echo chamber so I left just after Trump got elected. The way they all used dog whistle terms to attract alt right and other right wing viewers with prejudice and racist beliefs and politics was something I didn't realise till later. Complaining about SJWs, PC Culture, and feminism is so old and played out to me now. People just need to go outside and interact with others. Lay off the reddit forums and discord. These outlets fooled a lot of people, including myself, into thinking that there was some kind of fucking culture war and war against boys that a call to action must be made. I'm ashamed, truly ashamed. I've also realised just how impressionable these right wing/alt right people are. You could make up a chart or stat about how in say 2020 half of the US or Europe will be Islam and post it all on these forums and sites that they frequent and watch em believe and eat that shit up. Great video and channel Jośe.
What you said about the right can just as easily be said about the left.
@@stanzavik It could be said, it wouldn't be true
@@nr0802 bullshit yes it is true, and the fact that the guy gets knowledge of politics and culture from youtube polemscists is proof he was never serious about politics.
@@718junius Its really not true though, the left isn't nearly as homogeneous in thought as the right. And I mean it makes perfect sense as the left isn't nearly as homogenous in demographics as the right.
The top 5 most conservative groups according to pew are Mormons, white evangelicals, white southerners, white men (without a college degree), and just plain white. See if you can spot the similarities.
Nerd Strangler: _"Its really not true though, the left isn't nearly as homogeneous in thought as the right"_
Yup. Even the most common joke on the Left itself is how much we in fight lol.
ive been following you on twitter for a bit but I never knew you did videos. excellent work here. you got my subscription!
Ha! I am so bad at promoting my own content.
"Failed comedian asylum seeker", Lauren Southern - Jose' 😂❤️👏
Check out Kyle Kulinksi, The Kavernacle and Hakim for based and diverse takes
Honestly, it’s like watching people slowly fall into fascism and xenophobia …
The Nazi party was socialist btw
Outcast Havoc what a tired right wing talking point that conveniently overlooks their immense hatred for Marxists and social democrats alike
@@matthewodonnell6906 we could also talk about how the nazi party ristriced freedom of the press much like soscial media outlets ban a mojority of Republican Speakers. Or the fact that the nazis banned guns first so they could control thier people and not raise up against them. Or we could talk about how the founder of planned parenthood crammed planned parent hood buildings WITH INTENT to weed out black people. Or we could talk about how democrats fought for the south in the civil war. Which one first?
@@matthewodonnell6906 your silence speeks volumes
@@outcasthavoc417I highly suggest you read a bit into the history surrounding the Nazi party and the Weimar Republic. Authoritarianism isn't a left or right wing ideology. Restricting freedom of press is similarly not left or right. Notice Trumps constant berating of any media he disagrees with. Gun control was in no way to control the people in the Nazi Germany. The average German supported Hitler or at least didn't oppose the Nazi regime. Gun control was almost entirely imposed on enemies of the state such as Jews and communists. I don't think I have to say this but people advocating gun control laws today are advocating the laws for everybody not just a minority. Even if Jews had taken up arms at the time it would have done little to change history because the whole system including the military (who swore allegiance directly to Hitler) was set up to allow for Hitler's ultimate goal to take place.
Nazis were very much a right wing party. But what I also think is important to recognise is Hitler didn't care about political ideology unlike others in his party. Some in the party were actually socialist such as Gregor Strasser who was killed in the knight of long knives carried out by the SS to eliminate enemies of Hitler such as the leader of the SA and Gregor Strasser who both had socialist leaning tendencies. The Nazi party did actually have a socialist wing but Hitler hated this side of his party hence him murdering the proponents of what we may call socialist ideas. This whole argument is very nuanced and any expert on the issue such as actual historians will tell you Hitler and the Nazi party was right wing. It isn't however very fruitful comparing 1930s Germany with our political spectrum today because Hitler didn't care about any actual policies. He was motivated by power and wanted to draw support from as many groups as possible eg rich industrialists and capitalists, women, middle class families, WW1 veterans and in particular workers who would have previously supported the communist party or at least the social democrats in the Weimar Republic. He did this through a range of political decisions and propaganda the primary one being the blaming of basically every problem in Germany at the time on Jews and the communists. Btw he completely banned trade unions so that gives you a taste of the Nazi parties true intentions in regards to the worker.
Because the whole issue is much more complex then many present it as and I definitely cannot get close to doing the topic justice in a short comment I suggest you do your own research. This video by an actual German person addresses the whole notion of Hitler was left wing or a socialist : th-cam.com/video/hUFvG4RpwJI/w-d-xo.html
"My brain is still in recovery mode from taking on so many high level ideas"
Great!!! You have really good content! Keep it up! 👍🏼
Ha ha, Stephen Yaxley Lennon aka Tommy Robinson couldn't have a studio interview as he is banned from entering the US.
Stumbled across this after the JRE Adam Conover podcast and I see the exact same reaction from Rogan’s fan base. Just a complete rejection of anything not right wing.
Would love for you to review that podcast episode.
Review it yourself you pussy piece of shit! Nothing wrong with Rogan, stop making the left sound like such dorks!
Joe Rogan's audience was pretty positive towards left wing guests like Kyle Kulinski,David Pakman, Tulsi Gabbard, Russell Brand,and more recently Bernie Sanders.They are a lot less having a "rejection of anything not right wing", but more mad at how Adam Conover was behaving during the podcast and the poor arguments Adam had for trans rights and masculinity.
@@porcelaindoll1228 ignore these bum boys
Cartman Dulex
>“left wing”
>”Tulsi Gabbard”
@@mrtambourineman6107 Rogan has complained about the left many times. However, he's a little better than Rubin because at least he has some opinions of his own and does criticise his guests if they're obviously wrong.
Agree 100% with your summary. Excellent analysis, overall, as well!
Big loss for the Free Marketplace of Ideas!
That's strange, Rubin tried to see his Patreon site to me for 5 bucks. That marketplace isn't that free.
Yeah, Dave Rubin found out that being a leftist isn't profitable. Being a former leftist who changed sides is extremely valuable to the right because he brings a lot of people with him, and that's worth big money to the alt right. It doesn't matter what his personal views were or are because money was and is more important to him.
I think you get your analysis wrong at around 35:00. It's pretty clear that Rubin's audience is not only "further right" than it used to be, but that it's _different people._ Kinda like the old story of the human body changing its atoms every X years. Therefore your slowly shifting picture doesn't quite paint the right picture. I'm sure he's been a "pipeline" for some people, but let's not kid ourselves. Many of his original audience were far-right twits to begin.
It's a sad world we live in where a crank on the internet claims that their platform is reducing their viewer membership and that platform looks at the claim, blinks, and asks, "hey, why aren't we doing that?"
Unlike Rubin's show, this video aged extremely well.
the dave "reactionary" rubin conservative report.
This is excellent. I have asked different friends several times “where did Dave Rubin come from?” and now here we are. Well done.
Clicked for the content, stayed for the calming voice, subscribed for the birb icon.
insanely awesome analysis
In other words: He should have Sam Seder on his how.
Btw, this is a high-level idea video. I like!
Great video sir
Great research and well put. Just subbed