Mercedes W124 4 Matic - Technology explained
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2023
- Unfortunately this 300 Turbodiesel 4 Matic has seen better days. Transfer case is shot, leaking rubber boots from the front drive shafts, vibrations upon acceleration.
An overengineered car like no other unfortunately to unavailablity of parts most of them will see the scrapyard sooner rather than later. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
![[UNCUT] ฝันรักห้วงนิทรา | EP.8 (4/4)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/RDYJYiDwsj0/mqdefault.jpg)
Sun Valley Mercedes in Pacoima, CA will rebuild your transfer-case for a reasonable cost. Send it to them for rebuilding and they will send it back. Impressive 100% locking center and rear differentials are much more capable than later versions of 4Matic. The W-124 4Matics are special enough to keep working and on the road. That is why I had my transfer case rebuilt and you should consider it too!
would love to but i am based in Portugal, which makes shipping and import duties prohibitive
I have owned a 1993 4Matic 300E estate for 25 years =- I replaced the transfer box 12 years ago with the revised Mercedes box and it has worked fine ever since- it still drives like a new car with 110,000 miles under the wheels
problem is new transfer boxes are not available anymore. If available they would cost 8k upwards. The thing is if you have an outstanding example it is worth while seeking a fix for your problem. If its a used "lemon" investing anything over 1K is just wasted money
I had a 91 300TE 4Matic. What an incredible car. Very capable when the system is working.
Just to add, i think the system is even more advanced than you explained. It also has the 50:50 lock in the center. I think the modes are as follows:
Mode 0: RWD
Mode 1: 35-65
Mode 2: 50:50
Mode 3: 50:50 + Rear is locked
Yes correct. And the 50:50 is with lock.
Excellent video and description of the system! I am starting to appreciate these old mechanical setups more and more every year, even though I am an electrical engineer born in the 80's :D
Tu, Marcus, és um verdadeiro mestre mecânico que sabe do que está a falar e que explica este assunto complexo e difícil numa linguagem que o espetador/ouvinte pode facilmente compreender!
Muitos dos meus pensamentos sobre os w124s 4Matic mudaram consideravelmente depois deste vídeo extremamente educativo.
Muito obrigado.
The trasnfer case really isnt that expensive to fix. Its just that not many have done it. The hydraulic pistons that pressurize the clutch packs wear out the cylinder walls and then, the hydraulic fluid leaks past the pistons into the case. It mainly just requires sleeving the cylinders and replacing the pistons seals.
Id be interested in buying your oil pan if you ever delete the 4matic system.
hi Marcus. Its not my car. Its from a friend of mine and he has had enough:) he is gonna sell it and buy a W124 coupe.
I own one of these wagons and converted it from m103 auto to om603 and 5 speed manual. I have tons of spare parts including multiple transfer cases. I'd like to help
Thank you for your kind offer, but i think he sold the station wagon by now
My 1990 300TE 4-matic recently passed 500k km (310k miles). I dont know how, but the 4-matic still works 🤷♂️😅
keep it. a properly working 4 matica is a hell of a 4x4
Omg that is beyond crazy. Pls make a video of it! That's no less than a glitch in the matrix!
@@shaazyI am not a good film maker but when the snow comes i will try to make a video 😄. Anything spesific you want to see?
Great job
thank you!
Excelente vídeo. Yo tengo un w220 4matic que supongo utiliza una tecnología diferente al w124. Saludos desde España.
Everything after the W124 is just electronic wizardry. The W124 uses proper Hydraulic/mechanical lockers. The W210 4 matic e.g uses the ABS sensor to detect wheel spin and apllies braking force to the opposing wheel. No Diff lockers.
As a general rule of thumb from 2000 onwards big quality drop across all brands, prices up for thiose fancy electronics and thats it. It's a shame
Hello how are you?.. i have the opportunity to buy really cheap and in a really good condition one off those 4matic.. if the transfert its broken (worse case). How much could be the price of the reparations? ...
Another question is.. the only complicated part to find its the transfert?
Thanks in advance
i have the '91 sedan m103 4matic but i got it with the front shafts removed and transmission changed to the rwd version. This is actually a good middle ground ive discovered, the rear end suspension side is swappable with the RWD sedan, so parts are available and cheap. However, front end is expensive, but then it is built much much stronger than the regular w124. The 4matic side stands disconnected because like you said, i discovered that everything i needed to convert it back to 4matic was simply too cost prohibitive with no warranty on reliability. The previous owner had changed the rear SLS out also, but id love to get it back, just dont know how. As of now, it works and drives rather reliably. Overall a very Mercedes feeling car.
the 4 matic is a fabulous system when it is working. Major failure of components is a financial ruin and parts are unobtainable unfortunately.
@@heritagesteel1976 yes indeed. Learnt it the hard way. Btw, do all 4matics have SLS in the rear?
Olá ,Adorei o vídeo ,Tenho uma carrinha s124 4Matic de 1993.
Gostava de tirar umas dúvidas consigo.
Obrigado
boas Miguel. Diga, se puder ajudar ajudo. E sempre bom manter mais um W124 na estrada
@@heritagesteel1976 Obrigado pela resposta, têm outra via para o poder contactar?
Obrigado
Cumprimentos
Hi, I’m looking for complete front anti roll bar for S124 300TE 4Matic. Does anyone have something like this for sale or know where I can find it?
did the 603turbo 4 matic come with a manual gearbox?
no they are all automatics
Hi, I’ve just recently purchased a 1993 300TE 4Matic with 76k miles. How screwed am I?
hi,
is everything working as it should? If so enjoy the ride as it is a sweet one. If not you have to weigh in the costs of keeping a 4 matic on the road. If you can fix stuff yourself it is a huge bonus...
@@heritagesteel1976 The car is shipping in on Tuesday, I'll assess then. It's rust free, east coast kept... so fingers crossed.
Reply
I have owned a 1993 4Matic 300E estate for 25 years =- I replaced the transfer box 12 years ago with the revised Mercedes box and it has worked fine ever since- it still drives like a new car with 110,000 miles under the wheels
Reply
@@hudsoninbury What do you mean revised Mercedes box? An updated transfer case? Where can I find it?
@@kubapuch4591 During the short life of the original transfer box, when the initial issues first became apparent, Mercedes revised the box using ceramic clutch plates as I understand and this was offered as a total replacement rather than a repair which in all honesty was only a temporary fix. - I went down the repair route at first which lasted only six months and then I spent £6,000 for a new revised box which also was expensive to fit, but that has been successful for about 60,000 miles. - as that was more than twelve years ago, I am not certain if Mercedes would still offer this box unless there is still one on a shelf somewhere as it was so expensive at the time, there were few takers and most cars were scrapped which is why they are so rare now. I believe the new box addressed the main issue with the system and hope to keep mine whatever. - you should investigate if there are any still available as they may be a cheap deal as not many people would want them now perhaps
Hello
Do you have an parts for 4 Matic?
no, sorry. Parts are (almost)unobtainable. Personally i love those cars, but i would never buy one due to unavailablity of parts and the complexity of the system-.
Do you know if standard w124 suspension etc is bolt on in the 4matic cars? Or are the bolthole places also different?
Thinking about doing an engine swap and 4matic delete
why go through the hassle on an engine swap? The whole geometry of the front suspension is completly different. I dont believe you can bolt on a standard suspension and be done with it...it wont fit without heavy mods. If you know how to cut and weld properly maybe its doable. I would rather - like mentioned in my video, remove the front prop and drive in 2wd. The front drive shaft are necessary if you want to retain ABS. If not leave them out and be done with it. Easiest solution without major costs. Everything else is bloody expensive and labour intensive. But like i said if you have the time and skills go for it.