VW ID Buzz 82 kWh range test
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You got the van man, now you and wifey can fill it with kids 😄😁😄😂
Hopefully theirs😬
That's the first real-world range test I saw with the Buzz - much better than I expected, that's a real useable Family Van (given you have the change)
Much better than I expected
11:16 wow it's 71 kWh added in 42 minutes. This means 100kW average speed from almost 0% to 96%. Great improvements from VW.
Edit: I misleaded the starting SoC. Considering losses as well it's more like 90 kW average from 10 to 96%, anyway good result.
No, it's 71 kWh pulled from the charger. What's added to the battery is way less.
@@bjornnyland yeah for sure it's less, but not so much i do believe. If bms is not cheating, you charged from 1 to 96% and this required 71.5 kWh to be pulled from the the carger. Doing a 0-100% would have required 76 kWh to be pulled. If the net capacity of 74.5 kWh is correct, not so much energy was used for ancillaries/wasted on losses. Said this, you have the bms data with the app so i think it is possible to know exactly the added energy. I'm looking forward to see the full charging test!
Well done Volkswagen! 👍
@@gabrielecomensoli2787 No, first he charged from 1% to 10ish% and interrupted for the unplanned charging test. So he charged from 10% to 96%.
@@christiankuppler6643 I missed this. Thanks.
Impressive! Never thought the stats were gonna be this good! A serious alternative
Thank you Bjørn, I have been waiting for this one:-)
I love this van! Well done Volkswagen 👏👏
thanks for your test!
A very interesting test, thank you! I'm pleased to see that ID Buz has the same user interface as Golf 8 2022, same dashboard, same buttons, same lightning. Because Golf means quality and driving comfort.
6:55 høstferie = Autumn/Fall holidays. As you were.
Very nice, thanks! Would be nice if you could do the range/consumption test also with other small MPVs in the market - Citroen Berlingo/Opel Combo/Peugeot Rifter and the forthcoming Renault Kangoo.
Always fun watch to your videos Bjørn! I hope everything is fine, see you around! Shieeet
ID Buzz for the win, E-Tron go home!! Love it and i love this van as well!
14:55 the guy out the back window checking out the Buzz lol
You should test the Citroen e-Berlingo. It is a lot cheaper and might be a good choice for people who rarely need to travel long distances but need a true family car.
If you have a large family long travels are inevitable but I agree
exactly Bjron. your high "traffic" in Norway can be compared to our Covid Lockdown smooth traffic in Bangkok. Now, Bkk traffic Jams are back with a vengeance 5555
Thanks again. Nice practical bit of testing. Just one thing - don’t rely on Google for accurate distance’s. My understanding is that they can be up to 1.5% out in either direction.
If I remember correctly, the mentioned distance measurement is between the same physical places for all cars he tests.
So yes, the Google error on a randomly selected route is unknown; whereas the Google error on his route is the same for all his tests and is known to him, I believe, due to all the cross-checks from all cars' reported distances.
We need the 75% column to be corrected. It always shows only 65%.
Anyone know If the 2023 id.4 will have same charging curve?
Interesting, probably the only other vehicle I’d consider other than a Tesla x for space practicality
Have I understand it correct that Buzz doesn't have a heat pump? My dealer claimed it will not be availiable until 2024.
Omg!!! It is the Tartan Prancer!!
That’s not bad at all!! Shame it looks so plasticky inside… and hopefully VW keep improving the infotainment…
I like the looks of it (that grey one next to you at the end looked fab!!)
Hopefully comes to the UK soon…
Can you explain the last 3 rows in the chart after miles, the 75% range, charge and last
Love those green interior lights looks so good... Man what a cool nice Van and charges fast Also really good i want One but hmm can't afford One 😔😭 oh shit not good.
Only Vans!
Regarding charging, the ID Buzz uses different battery cells than all the other MEB cars in Europe. ID.3/4/5/Enyaq/Q4 all use cells from LG Chem while the Buzz uses cells from a different manufacturer, which has not officially been disclosed but is rumored to be Northvolt.
Well, not all the ID.4/5 use LG Cells, the non GTX use different carlos hence the different charging curve.
Always amazing how much effort you put in these tests. 👍
It is soooo funny that Phat ETron is less efficient than a big van... for me the range, though, is still too short for a Van. Only 245km at 120kmh is too little for the price which is very high. But overall a good car, they should just have given it a 100-120kWh Battery in my opinion.
Yeah but if you decrase your speed to 100 km/h it goes well over 300, and on a 250 km strech you only lose 25 min. I have an e-jumpy 50 kWh and it is a good compromise between speed, range and consumption.
@@winyettyu yeah of course... also have to say that I do not need a van, so I am not to judge it. But as said, for me the price would have justified a bigger battery :)
@@henrikhansen1507 yupp true...
VW have announced a long version with a larger battery.
When we will look back in 10 years we will say it was sooo bad the range. So much money for a van with 250 km at 120 is really a joke. But for today standarts its OK i guess.
Hey Bjørn, does it have a campimg mode? Heatpump?
I love your vids . Can you test the new MG4 please?
The second and third row seats of Buzz Long Wheelbase versions need to be removable just like T7.
This is why the Buzz only has 2.5seats in the second row. It would steal too many customers from the freshly released T7. My feeling is that VW actively torpedoed the buzz here.
You should fill it up full of people and do a drive test
A real world drive test for the 1st electric mini van
Anyone buying this will have a full load of family
Wonder what the distance will be when there is more than 1 person inside
One of my biggest gripes with this car is that you cannot fill it up with people. The second row is only 2.5 seats. Even a VW Touran does better.
@@luc_libv_verhaegen facts
love the concept and look...
But.....
You can't sell me a van...
And not make it usable like a van lol 🤷🏿🤔⁉️
I‘ll buy one for my family. Really nice car!!
Tesla go home 😎
We are on our 4th EV.. its a Tesla.
Love the over the air updates etc...
I liked the look and idea of the Buzz. But the lack of range for us is an issue.
Lets hope VW also do better with the Buzz software, as there appear to be a few issues with the ID3 and 4. One local chap I know has had his ID3 in and out repeatedly for 'glitches'..
Its a pity.. i just think VW are a bit conflicted... Not Full ICE nor EV... Just a bit slow and laggy in their response and move to full EV.
BTW.. the Tesla is not perfect.. but the quality and the OTA updates are exceptionally good 👍
After all this range tests on different temperatures, would it maybe be possible to calculate an average range loss per temperature for cars? Of course it needs the same cars in different conditions but it would be intresting, if in average the cars are comparable in this case.
How is the software?
Isn't that windshield and roof hyper-annoying for example when stopping in a front position at a top mounted traffic light ?!
Hva heter appen du bruker for å se energiforbruket? 🤔
What app is that he is using?
it's a van for carring passangers. So a test with at least 5 people is a must.
Come to central Jakarta man... You'll see PROPER traffic 🤣
What is the app that you use on the phone to see all the measurments ?
Car Scanner ELM OBD2
Yo what’’s up Bjørn . Eg ønsker å bytte ut min Proace Ev med Id Cargo .
Kunne du laget en video med Id Cargo og . Gjerne med last .
Takk for at du lager gode videoer med bra innhold og mye latter 😀🤜.
What's the max AC charging speeds in the Buzz?
36,5kWh /100km at speed 125km/hour it means 220km Range Great :) Love this car but WV needs to put 140kWh battery from Chinese CATL
Decent result. I'll be interested in what the US long wheelbase / big battery version will get. Assuming the rumored 111 kWh batter, I'm guessing 300 miles low speed and 200 miles high speed.
Yes, bigger battery needed with longer wheelbase, more weight and dual motor. With the bigger ID Buzz, AWD and this battery, you'll be at 160 km / 100 miles between charge stops on long trips. That's every 80 minutes.
I have a VW Transporter I've converted to a campervan. Want to switch it for electric when viable. Loved seeing the Buzz at Fully Charged earlier in the year in the UK.
Does the Buzz have overnight camping heating mode? And a heatpump? VW staff at the show didn't know
Doesnt have a heatpump, might Get it later
No 'camping mode'...
The Tesla does.. but its not as appealing for camping out in.
Pity Tesla didnt build the Buzz!
@@G-Cam1 VW campers are legendary, they need to have a camping mode in the Buzz, I might actually be tempted to sell my campervan to get a Buzz! Tesla van would be even better, but it's not even been announced yet so likely years away.
I’m a little surprised the catr system computer freaked out at 4:15 min. I would consider the car system computer to be the equivalent of a standard cell phone vs a smartphone. Not a very high end processor with definite lag…
great charging power at 80% .
Genesis G80 pulls about 160kw at 80% . That would be great for 1000km challenge
Björn want to See New Rolls Royce Spectre EV on your Channel 😀
6:50 Yeah, traffic in Bangkok is in a class of its own 😆
At 14:52 the dude checks out your rear ;-)
Charging’s brilliant, which allows for perhaps a slightly disappointing range v what we’d been lead to expect from VW.
In the UK I believe this is going to be circa £60k. That puts it beyond mine and most buyers’ reach, which is a shame! Surely most Buzz buyers will also want the 7-seater or Camper variants; it’s a bit frustrating for now to only be able to see the 5-seat version.
219 miles with hvac going, realistically 185 miles at us highway speed, not quite a road trip mobile but adequate for most folks day to day, even some of the super commuters.
not great, but probably get you 2 hours between charges for a break, and if you can find a good charger that charge speed helps mitigate the lower range - its literally an etron on stilts :)
Maybe this is the reason the US will only get the LWB version with allegedly a larger battery.
@@MrKlawUK yeah basically motorcycle road trip range. Too bad fast chargers are so expensive
Are US highway speeds higher than in Europe? I always thought it was the other way round.
@@mrspeigle1 Depends on where you live and how much of a hurry youre in.
Er det mulig å legge inn forbruk ved ca 20 grader og så 10 grader og kanskje 0 grader ? Mulig det blir litt for MYE data men for nordmenn vil ihvertfall dette være VELDIG interessant. Buzz en kommer til å selge som hakka møkk. Spesielt long version typen. Den kommer jeg til å ønske meg.
Please test camping mode!
they all should get rid of that horrible screen in the middle console
they could do something about the ugly screens on dashboard.
I think it's going to sell well. It's going to be competition to the Model Y really.
Funnily enough we have a Model Y (and 6 dogs).. we thought the Buzz might be a good next EV...
But its a No!.. poor range, slow charging on the open network and poor towing capacity make it a non starter for us.
Thats a real Pity as I like People carriers.. great for dogs and load hauling..
@@G-Cam1 there will be a 111 kWh Option and longer wheelbase and a GTX version
I testdrove a Tesla model 3 and a Ioniq 5, but i must say the "LAL" (Legacy Automaker Lag) makes me so angry, for me a car with a system like that is not usable sadly.... I love your Videos!
Does anyone use the "LAL"? Apple Car play / Android is just a million years ahead. Doesn't everyone default to that normally?
Battery is too small, needs 90-95kWh to add 100km to the results then it is fine for a family trip with hopefully better seat configurations in the future…
Maybe also some additional air vents for clima/heating for the 2nd (and 3rd row in the future)... can't imagine going in 35+ with 5 people in it on a longer journeys....
@@petitst true, complete doesnt understand that VW put the same second row system as an ID4….
@@Elektroauto1984 I personally wait for the LWB, maybe that will bring some changes (battery interior facelift).
@@petitst yeah me too this version is not any advantage yet
There will be a 111 kWh Version
Any idea or information (perhaps with source) when the 7 seater version is coming?
As there are no electric station wagons yet. Björn is right. This will sell like crazy.
MG5
@@bjornnyland Of course.. MG5
Hi Bjørn - which app are you using with the OBD scanner? I have Taycan 4S and ELM327 bluetooth interface, using it with carscanner, but can not get al the useful info you find here in this video… should i use a specific scanner or app for porsche?
In Car Scanner ELM OBD2 app you should select connection profile: Porsche Taycan.
@@EV_OBD yes - already did that, but still seems like a lot of info is missing out? I am not able to see SoC in % and also not how many watts are on the battery
@@ElectricJohnD in Settings/Dashboard - Reset dashboard to default, then you get 20-page Dashboard. Battery kWh content was added in newest update.
How the heck does this thing have lower consumption than XC40 😳👏
XC40 has somewhat high consumption for some strange reason. But also Buzz is closer to ground so probably it has better aero because air under the car around tyres is really bad.
@@HermanWillems more like using Petrol based platform. EX90 / P3 will be based on their first dedicated EV platform.
Are you gonna do a Soundsystem test? It could be super interesting even tho it only has standard🙏🏼
How did you manage to have 20.6kwh? when I drive it it takes 33 - 35 i hardly made 200km
Great Video! THX!
One Question. Why you use so many german Words? Do you speak german? Greetz!
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Do this in winter -10f.
The more a car looks like a raindrop, like Schlörwagen, the more aerodynamic. If the back was more streamlined it would probably be super efficient.
Thanks for the video! Does anyone know if there is a realistic range test for this car with lots of weight onboard out there?
If VW did one themselves .... 1000 miles....
Under the secret test mode... In zero gravity..
Real world would be 100miles...
No. Wait. VW would never do something like that ..... Would they 🤔😂
@@G-Cam1 😁
Tack!🙏 Even better consumption with 18 inch wheels?😋
camping mode-ish?
👍🏻
Where is this charging speed coming from? Other vw are not close to this…
It's not that different, with the new software other MEB cars with the 82 kWh pack also reach 170-175 kW. But the ID Buzz uses different battery cells, so that's why it might be slightly better.
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kaputt is spelled with a "k" (5:29) 😛
most efficient van, probably because it has a footprint of an id car and therefore is very small for a van.
I hope there will be a "premium" interior though. When I first sat inn the ID 4 I was suprised how basic the seats etc. felt.
There is the proof, drive over 120 Kph. and range drops A LOT! Keep 100 or better yet 90 Kph.
When a manufacturer makes a 'van' with rear seats to transport a family they class it as car, otherwise they class it a van if its primary use is to transport goods and has no rear seats :)
It's an ID4 in an interesting body for which you are paying a heavy premium for.
Bangkok traffic 😱
This van needs a 100kwh battery and heatpump
Apparently both are coming with the longer wheelbase in 2023
@@randomgoodnessca Jep, there will be a 111 kWh version
Big heavy box not like 120 Kph. speed.
Title: Range Test
Length:15:56
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@0:23 and @14:38 You can call it a car. "Car" doesn't have to mean a sedan, especially since many car makers have stopped making sedans and hatchbacks and have reduced efficient choices. LOL
the only thing that is not efficient is the price.
Okay, so at 90 I thought "pretty much the same as usual with ID cars and others... Around 20-25kwh at a speed range between 100 - 130km/h
But seeing the 30 at 120 speaks "bus" loudly... That´s quite alot... Don´t wanna see it at 150 then.
The old, burned-out Hippies can relive their youth electrically.
would have probably been more efficient in D mode on motorway/highway
Nope
It probably would have been more efficient if you had removed the wheels.
Nice looking Van. Very impressed. Pity though they brought over the bad Infotainment/centre console from the ID3. Really hope they sort out the bugs, and perhaps give it a major upgrade/look in their forthcomming new cars. Bad Software these days reflect a bad car, irrespective of how good the car looks and rides.
EU and Scandinavia, is TARMAC Even I use tarmac, due to grow up racing cars.
It’s a Transporter
We need a banana box test
Already done
Bangkok traffic. Childs play. Go to Cairo or India :D
247 km? Thats poor
Agreed. At normal motorway speed this gets 153 miles. Absolutely terrible range for the price. Had they put a 100+kw pack in this I would have put my name down straight away.
@@onlineo2263 giving the price tag and this range this looks like yet another rushed under optimised VAG EV for enthusiasts
Could you add a column for miles per kWh too? For us brits 😉 awesome vid as usual
you can say car
Kaputt! Nein, nein,nein!
Do you drive in B normally? D would be slightly more efficient on the highway - because it coasts in D at highway speeds.
Rain actually adds to the drag - the car is "whacking" into all the rain drops, and that means their mass has to be accelerated up to the speed of the car.
An average car with 25 sq ft (2.32 sq m) frontal area, for every mile (1.6km) it travels, it has to push about 4.5 TONS (4,000kgs) of air out of the way! A larger frontal area (wider and/or taller vehicle) will have to shift even more air.
Nope
@@bjornnyland Okay, good to know.
@@NeilBlanchard You shouldn't be coasting on the highway while being a nuisance to others.
@@samusaran7317 Huh? Nobody can tell I am coasting. There are a lot of opportunities to coast and get "road candy" - free travel.
@@NeilBlanchard What's the consumption difference than using cruise control in *your* experience.
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