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Xbox game pass and xcloud need to teach Nintendo a lesson. I hope the release of Steam Deck crashes Switch and make them realize the way they treat their customers is simply too greedy.
Thank you for talking about how this is supposed to be an online service, not a game pass. This is what I've been telling people for months now. I just want a good online service, not just old games. I'm happy to pay for old games separately or have them as a bonus, but the focus should really be the online aspect in the first place.
why cant they just add discord that ends everything u could just speak through discord and everything that ends voice chat and all the others as for the online service why cant they can just cut out all the old games , add more features and improve the quality BAM
If you're going to charge 50 bucks, it needs to be akin to like game pass. Actually, this is closer to PS Now, minus current gen games. Regardless, this is a rip off.
The big big problem behind this "expansion pack" is that, with it's release, there is no hope for us that Nintendo will improve on the current online service. No messaging friends, or invite them directly to our games in anytime, no voice chat, not even dedicated servers for most of their games. They ignored all our requests and decided to sell us an underwhelming product at $50 instead.
What? You can't messege friends? WHAT? Nintendo online is trash, then. How do you people communicate? I don't use nintendo products so my expectations are probably too high from them.
I think I figured out why Nintendo dropped you. You are honest and Nintendo only wants to be praised by people they sponsor. It’s a compliment. You are honest and willing to say if something sucks. While Nintendo may shy away from such a trait, I really appreciate it. Keep up the excellent work and excellent videos. Cheers.
@@brichan1851 You don't think it's strange he was dropped by Nintendo immediately after uploading a video of him playing BotW on his PC with mods? I can't tell if you're joking. If not, then I'm a bit shocked.
I agree with everything you’ve said, I wish Nintendo had different like “tiers” to their pricing. I don’t really care for sega nor the animal crossing add on as I don’t own the game so having to pay more for something I’m not going to use is a tad off. If you could just choose to purchase the N64 pack for a certain price then you can add on the DLC or sega for the full price
Agreed. The lack of options is astounding to me. They should just separate it more instead of making it all a vague value. I'd be more inclined to actually consider buying some parts of the expansion pack then, but as it is, it's not worth it for me at all.
If the Genesis licensing theory ends up being real, then I think they should've put GameBoy and GameBoy Color games and only have to worry about emulating them properly and figuring out link cable emulation.
Sounds absurd to me. Sega's not exactly known for making it hard to sell Genesis titles. If anything, throwing Genesis games when startled seems to be their only natural defense.
This actually makes sense. Why the heck the price this high for a non Nintendo service like Sega makes no sense. Nintendo just trying to make money off these as rereleases probably.
I think nintendo should have an option for those who don't want the live service part of the online subscription and just want to be able to play online with their friends. I think a huge part of the complaints is that you HAVE to pay for the online + games even when you don't want to.
If we are considering future DLC as part of the expansion pack, we have to consider how often nintendo actually makes paid DLC. . . which is not alot. . . like twice a year if we don't count smash bros, and even then, it's usually for offline games. So in that regard, if you are a single-player user who doesn't buy the base online, that would be $50 for 2 DLC that would have normally averaged out combined at $45 dollars since their paid DLC is usually $19.99. Meaning you are getting ripped off if you are buying it for that year's DLC. *MY FEAR:* is that to justify the LACK of DLC per year is they might start making what would have been free DLC now cost money. An example. Lets say we get 1 new mario golf map every 2 months. Now, all of a sudden, we don't get any new maps for 5 months. On the 6th month, they make an announcement where they are selling a pack of 3 maps for $5 to $10. Now we are in a reality where the content we would have gotten for free are now costing us money simply because nintendo wants to make the expansion pack artificially look more valuable. "Artificial Value" being something nintendo is VERY good at manipulating. Just something to think about.
I would still pay for the DLC over a recurring charge. I may not own the content physically but it would still be tied to my account. If I wanted to pay a subscription for DLC I would play WoW. That being said I 100% agree with you.
It looks like I was right about being ripped off. They are raising the price of all their DLCs moving forward to $19.99 from $29.99 to justify the expansion pack.
I want to point out about the music issue in Mario Kart 64, that game has a feature that a lot of us completely forgot that it had that is causing that issue. One of the buttons is dedicated to music volume adjustment. Pressing it once will bring the music to 50% volume, pressing it again will turn music off completely, and then pressing it again will turn music back on at full blast. This threw me off too, because I ran into the same issue, but I found out it was because I was pressing that button. Once I was aware, it never happened again. I can tell that's what was happening to you guys too, because there's a little jingle that plays when you press the button to adjust the music, and I'm hearing that jingle every time your music goes in and out. So one of you was pressing that button.
... and which button is it now? :D Edit: Google it, it's the L-Button. Btw, I remember this problem on the N64 and I always though that the music just turns off after some time and it seemed to me that this always happened on rainbow road. It's never too late to learn something new. Thanks!
i could of sworn that this also occurred in the original mario kart 64, i remember at times racing in silence and only hearing the sound effects back then.
I see that easily happening with the joycons and pro controllers, but how on earth do you reach the L button during play with the original N64 controller?
@@UltimateTobi That's a good question. The only thing I can imagine is bumping the controller/the L-button against a object or the knee. Mario kart races can become quite intensive, more so as a kid^^
Nintendo needs to start taking notes from Playstation and Xbox with their subscription services. Party Chat, Game chat, Messaging, Achievements/Trophies, Etc. All of these features came standard with the other consoles. If Nintendo wants to start having AAA game releases alongside Playstation and Xbox, they need to step their game up. I honestly believe there are a lot of gamers who would make the Switch their Main Console if at least some of these features could be added to the Online Service.
Yeah the price was fine for just basic service. But now they charging more than Ps Now for emulator games they lost their mind. Adding stuff we didn't ask for like old Sega games when Sega already has those game in eshop in a collection. Seems like money grab. If you charge full service you should deliver full service. Luckily it's optional but still leaves bad taste because they seemed to dramatically up the price over original but giving old games. The price just doesn't seem fair as it an ad on to the original service but it's over 2x more . They should really ads more benefits. It might get there but seems smarter to minimum let library grow, but hopefully get more benefits too. Also it's so old school because you only can play with real friends not random people that can become friends.
Hate to be that guy and say this: but as long as the loyalists who keep saying "NiNtEnDo cAn'T dO No WrOnG!" keep paying for this stuff Nintendo will never listen to criticism. This is a company that has cultivated a huge fanbase that conists of some who believe the company is 100% right with all their decisions. Why do you think that in the five years of the Switch's existence they have done almost next to nothing with improving their online? Online connections are still terrible for games like Smash Bros Ultimate, Super Mario Maker 2, and even Splatoon 2? Why is it that we have to rely on third party chat apps to communicate with our friends when Nintendo has the resources to make it so easy implement? It's cause Nintendo knows that those in the fanbase who are loyalists will give them money even when offering the bare minimum.
@@e1iteyoshi998 I feel like the people who genuinely defend Nintendo doing things like this are definitely in the minority, the like ratio of the price announcement video on YT is absurdly low. The reason Nintendo gets away with it is simply because of the first party games and casual market. The average Joe outside of the comparatively smaller online community isn't gonna be paying attention to what fan games Nintendo DMCAs, or what tournaments they shut down, or the poor lifespan of the analog sticks, or what online features are just blatantly missing/barely working, they only want to go buy the Mario Kart game for the Nintendo that they played at their friend's house or at a family event once. And if they can pay 20 bucks a year to play *with* that friend/family online, that's pretty cheap compared to the price of the console so yeah why not. Doesn't matter if half of what you'd consider standard for an online service is missing, it works and is comparatively cheaper so yeah most people who haven't already got an expectation for what the quality of one of these services is supposed to be like is just gonna buy into it and not think anything about it It's the same reason FIFA games sell like hotcakes every year. It doesn't matter if it's predatory or lazily made, it technically works and there's no alternatives so people are just gonna buy it
@@ACheapLemon But it's EA. Everything they make is a gambling simulator. Even when being investigated by the government they'll continue to do these practices cause in their mind they know who they're appealing their games to.
Without sounding cheap, no. I just can’t afford it. I’m over 40 with a family and &60 is a lot of money to me. Physical games i trade the previous games Ive played in towards them. I adore Animal Crossing and the idea it could be removed, or that it’s not mine leaves me just wanting to buy the dlc instead. I love Ocarina and enjoyed it on its original release but I’m happy at the moment to wait.
The worst part is that there is no other choice other than to shell out for the whole year too... at least the regular online can even be payed for by month
I made a family group on the Nintendo website, 8 people. A year for this cost us $109 Australian, so that was $14 each. Now all eight of us get everything on offer.
@@the-youtube-enjoyer you’d be surprised. On gamepass I buy occasional months depending on games. ‘Control’ took a few weeks to complete then I left gamepass until something else interested me. If n64 online was monthly and users completed Zelda, I think a lot would cancel or downgrade the month after.
Yeah. I don’t have a family yet but have a mortgage and many bills, really can’t afford it either when I procrastinate on many things, such as minor repairs around the house or my old 2007 car with 160,000 miles on it. Nintendo sorta forgets that most of us are normal people already paying for numerous services. I can’t use the “only X more dollars for a year” excuse anymore. The pandemic and inflation is also squeezing us. The pricing was very insensitive and a slap in the face quite frankly. Something that always puts me off is Nintendo’s smugness in regards to their perceived value of their retro games. Your old games are really only worth what people are willing to pay, you can’t force the value up on your 20-30 year old games.
They would need to do a few things to make it worth it. Especially for those of us who have a family plan. 1) Clear-cut defined schedule of what games are being released and when they are being released. 2) The ability to download and play offline either all or a selection of games (obviously not the crappy ones) 3) Introduction of GB, GBC, and GBA. 4) Purchase the stand alone upgrade automatically gets you one of the controllers (your choice) and family plan gets you at least two.
One thing to remember, which a lot of us who grew up with Nintendo (I'm an 80's baby so I had everything from the OG NES to now the Switch) tend to forget is that they have then and still are now the console for kids. It's the main reason why they can't give those of us who have stayed loyal to their systems something that may seem arbitrary (bc XBOX and PS have it) like texting and voice chat in-game. To provide those kinds of services would, unfortunately, put the majority of their fanbase (kids) in harms way of adults who also use their console. And as much as we'd like to believe we (as in the 80's kids who are now full grown adults) are the largest fanbase for Nintendo, they are still in many ways the "family friendly" console that parents have felt more safe in giving their kids. Nintendo, I am sure, sees themselves as the console families can trust. Just look all the commercials they release. If you want texting or voice chatting, the place to go for that is XBOX or PS. True, Nintendo can put "parental controls" on their console to prevent anything bad coming through should they allow these features, but parents would then have to think twice about buying their kid a Nintendo device at that point. It's the same with the Pokemon game. Those who hate it (adults) and those who probably don't but we don't hear from them (kids) is purely based on the franchise game not aging with us. Me, personally, I'm nostalgic for the way the game was and so I love the new Pokemon. But we see how things are on XBOX and PS and we say "hey, why can't Nintendo be more hardcore like this?" it's not because they can't. They simply won't. And that decision is what makes them STILL a contender and in many cases the top selling console against XBOX and PS. PS: I did pay the extra $30 though I likely won't use the extras. I just like supporting Nintendo and what they are doing to keep that girl born in the early 80's able to reminisce in the good ole days...
I never thought about it like that and you do have a good point. Now that I think about it, Nintendo really is a family console and I would prefer to give my kid that instead of a ps4 or Xbox. I personally don't mind the no voice chat even tho it would be cool. It would nice if they do figure something out for the older fan base but it's fine if they can't I suppose.
i strongly disagree w this (i’m a teen btw) they don’t need to make it rando online vc which is dumb, but they should add vc w friends through the switch so you can have game audio and vc at the same time
Bad argument. You can easily make it as it is right now the default option in every situation, but give advanced/adult users the ability to have the additional features which would make it a better online experience. This way you win with everyone. It's just Nintendo wanting to do as little as possible for as much money as they can make seem like a better value than it actually is.
The difference is pokemon Pearl was £24 pound which was a longer harder game with free post game and you could buy diamond for the same price but sword and shield was £40-50 and so if you wanted both for the version exclusive pokemon there almost £100 then the dlc was £17 and if you wanted it for both versions of the game you had to pay for it twice £40 , then if you only had one switch you had to pay a subscription fee of £15 for pokemon home to move pokemon and if you wanted to play online/competitively it’s £20 for online , it’s just milking pokemon fans for any money they have and making competitive pokemon basically pay to win as a lot of the competitive pokemon are behind a pay wall
I recommend the 3ds version, you can pick it up for pretty cheap and it's arguable better than the original version due to cleaned up graphics and a slightly reworked water temple.
how is 50$ a year for a bunch of classic games and more added over time a bad deal / edit since people are crying lol i watched the video, unless your a kid or broke it’s not a bad deal for a bunchhh of games. lol sorry
I had no interest in the basic service to begin with as I don't utilize cloud saves, play online, or care to access games I don't "own" - the new service price hike was not a great look. This seals the deal on not getting.
Any games bought digitally or that require downloads to be able to play are not "owned" by you. If a game relies on verifying your account has the right to play these games, what happens when you can't access the servers? (It only works so many days without a connection) , what if the internet is down / doesn't exist where you are? What if Nintendo shuts down the servers for the system someday?
The regular $20 online also has that friends joining you on the emulators. A friend plays the SNES games with me and the connection is extremely smooth.
Exactly, you could literally have up to 3 other people watch you playthrough a game and have a good time together solving puzzles in link to the past or whatever. And then giving them control to take over if you want to pass it on.
Unpopular opinion: I think it would be great to separate the online subscription from the getting old games sub. I just want to play these games. Not necessarily with anyone because all of the people who I used to play these games with in the 90s don't freaking have a Switch. So I'd be perfectly content paying less for no online and games only. 🙃
Im so happy that you made the point about it being an online Service that doesn’t actually offer good a online experience.I have been getting so frustrated that everyone is just talking about the games. For me the online service itself was never worth it and them making it even more expensive feels like a joke. I feel like they wanted to get more money out of it but realized only the N64 games wouldn’t be enough so they bundled in genesis and the DLC.
You hit the nail on the head at the end there, the actual online service at its core is horrendous for 2021. The original xbox had a better service back in 2003! Why people pay for this joke subscription is beyond me
You need to to play most if not all games online that aren't free to play or otherwise excepted. We HAVE to pay for at least the base service. Kinda makes it suck even more, cos maybe that's why Nintendo hasn't done crap with it yet. They don't have to, even if everyone and their parents are screaming that they really should.
I mean your not actually getting an online service as such, your basically paying Nintendo to allow peer to peer connection with other players , it's laughable
16:14 THIS... this right now. Having this weird makeshift "Game Pass" and all these nostalgic games mean nothing if the online is just as mediocre as it was back on the WII... and it used to be free so back then, we put up with that. But when we knew it was gonna be paid back in 2017, we had hope for improvement to the online as a whole. And all Nintendo seems to care about is MILKING the nostalgia with these retro titles on NES, SNES, N64, & GENESIS while not addressing the issues being brought up so often about the online. The selling point of playing N64 games with friends means nothing to me when the service is just mediocre and overpriced for what's being offered. If we're not having fun with it, why even bother?
I honestly wouldn't mind paying more for a Nintendo service that is similar to Game Pass. Game Pass Ultimate is $180 per year and includes Xbox Live Gold ($60 per year alone) plus over 800 games across Xbox and PC, most of which are from the 2010s/20s. I would pay $200 per year if Nintendo improves their online to match Sony and Microsoft, add games to the existing consoles on NSO, add tons of games for their other old consoles up to the 3DS and Wii U, and include some Switch games.
I'd like to see a basic 5€ service where you can just connect with friends globally. No cloud saving, no games, just....being able to visit friends in Animal Crossing (for example) without having to pay 20
@@phantomliger89 Well it's more that I wouldn't use it much. I don't have that many friends with switches, and I don't have much time to play. So maybe to use 4-5 times a year it seems expensive.
My main thing, is I’m in charge of the family membership with my two siblings, and we all play Animal Crossing. So it would cost me a min of 50 for 2DLCs if I do some weird player/home-device shenanigans (which might annoy them to set up). Or 75 for all of them bought individually. And then on top of that, with the subscriptions we get extra things like ocarina, and potentially new DLCs like Pokemon, which would be worth it for me in particular. But then there’s that nagging thought that if we ever stop, we just can’t play Animal Crossing? If you stop, how much would it affect the gameplay? Would it wreck any of the game files to stop and start again later? It’s confusing and annoying. Cause it makes sense now, but I’m just worried about later. Especially as Animal Crossing is a game that never really dies. One of my siblings still logs in to their new leaf DS game now and again. It’s perplexing, and I just wish they made it a little bit cheaper, cause it’s hard to justify the giant annual price. We’ll see I suppose. 🤔
I'm hoping with the acnh dlc that you just won't be able to do the job aspect, but you'll still get to keep the changes on your island. I feel like if everything disappeared then you wouldn't be able to play/the file would get corrupted and both of those options would hurt Nintendo. I think players will be trading the new items with other players who can't get the dlc like they've been doing with the Sanrio items
I really feel like if they add more games especially heavily requested games and handhelds like gameboy or gameboy advance or maybe even other sega consoles it would definitely worth it or maybe just making the online better like adding trophies and party chat
If they're just going to put in the lowest effort of emulation then they might as well give us a hundred games, just every first party game (the ones they don't have to license) and then I'd say the price is reasonable.
The Switch operating system really needs stuff like Party Chat on console like Xbox and being able to message friends on console like PlayStation and Xbox. If they added this and improved the new Switch online subscription with more pieces that make it worth the price (also fixing the issues) I personally believe this would make the Switch better then it is today and help it start a new generation on this console. Also love your vids, keep making more and I promise to keep on loving them
Tbh as someone who played other handhelds (as that's what the switch primarily is) with voice chat I personally don't think it would be as good as people want it to be. Now messaging would be nice between friends
A comment before yours made a really good point about this saying that Nintendo and its products are Family friendly. Although parents can use parental controls they can't control what people online say. There are obviously older Nintendo fans and do play these games alongside kids. So ultimately it does make sense why they haven't done it yet. But it would be great if they did have these features nonetheless
The game cartridge is already OP then releasing dlc with the same price as the OG game with little content. Pinching people to waste their money on little play time. Not cool.
Man the intro gave me chills even tho I was born in 2003 lol. The title of OOT is just too nostalgic. I used to watch my brother play Zelda games all the time and we had this on virtual consol for the wii. I miss waking up early before school to watch him play animal crossing and zelda :(
Personally, I’ll be buying the DLC for Animal Crossing and I already have Mario 64 as part of 3D All Stars. There’s not enough there for me to shell out an extra $30/year.
i think the problem is that you cant pay month per month. i agree on all points with you , i am in the same boat. i would consider buying the expansion for a few months , play the titles i want and then be done with it till they release stuff that i am maybe interested in .
8:55 The L button toggles the music, you can hear the toggle sound, are you sure one of you didn't accidently press L? It only works on 1-2 players AFAIK
@@delgat000 in Holland we say “kippenvel” literally translated to “chicken skin” but in otherwords it means Goosebump. I have no clue if he was regering to it tho.
i watch this guy when i have really bad anxiety sometimes and it really helps the way he talks to the viewer makes me feel like i’m with someone even when i’m alone and it really helps so much love to this man!! also he’s an aussie also might be wrong but he sounds like he’s from melbourne
Wolf, I'm a 27 year old single father who collects retro games as a hobby and occasionally plays them as an escape from the struggles of life. Lately I've been struggling mentally and been in the lowest and darkest point of my life because of financials taking a hit and feeling like I can't climb back up and potentially not being able to give my kiddo a good life. Moving away from that, your videos, your channel have helped distract me from those not okay thoughts and occasionally make me forget how hard everything is for a bit. Just wanted to reach out and thank you for being you and the distractions. Peace and love, Brandon.
To be honest I'm not mad anymore. I'm just sad that a company that has literally made my childhood and still continues to give me enjoyment to this day doesn't care.
"a company that has literally made my childhood and still continues to give me enjoyment to this day doesn't care" I always find it problematic to give companies personality traits like that. A company is not one person. It's a name for a group of people working together for a specific period of time before some of them leave the company and get replaced by new people and so on. Nintendo is just a brand name like every other brand name and most of the people, who were there at the beginning, aren't even there anymore. It's also a company and just like every other company... they wanna make the money. The only reason why Nintendo seemed genuine at the beginning is because gaming wasn't as huge back then as it is nowadays. Once a medium reaches a certain size it gets corrupted. The movie and music industry were predecessors to this sad direction swift and the gaming industry is following those foot steps. We should stop defending companies (because let's be real... they are all bad) and should judge products individually instead (no matter which company is behind it).
@@RizzerixLP he's the part I just don't understand. They're a company who wants to make Money. Then why are they so linear with online. If they had a good service they would make more money. We are trying to help them make it better by pushing. And even if people buy it anyway, shouldn't that like encourage Nintendo to make it better so that more people will buy it instead of dencourage it? I mean that's simple economics. Supply and demand.
The opening theme for ocarina of time is one of those serotonin sounds for me. Instantly throws me back into nostalgic memories of simpler times. Maybe one day I'll feel like I used to again.
I'm a die-hard, long time Nintendo fan, and the N64 is the console I credit with getting me into gaming (Ocarina of Time and the 64 version of Resident Evil 2 were the first games that I fell in love with, having mostly played NES, SNES, and Sega games with my family before that). That said, Nintendo is really snoozing on the potential of the Switch, and this online service highlights that. How hard would it be to release Joy-Cons that have a special N64 style layout to make playing those old games that much easier (though I'd rant all day about the failures of the Joy-Cons, and all the missed opportunities that Nintendo could have had with those)? With fan driven emulation being both free and practically flawless, albeit questionably legal at best and blatantly illegal at worst, why is the company that made the games having trouble emulating them? As much as I love Nintendo, I feel like they've grown comfortable and complacent with their position in the console wars and the security of their fanbase. Since Nintendo thrives on exclusives that we all grew up with, like Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Donkey Kong, etc, and offers a relatively different style of game play from PlayStation or Xbox, they don't feel like they need to do anything special to compete or apply any additional effort to fix their own mistakes. A good example of this is that I would have probably bought a Switch Lite, and would have considered a Switch OLED, but since I know they're still using the same old Joy-Cons with the same old drift, I can't justify it (I use the Hori Split Pad Pro, and while it's starting to have issues after more than a few years of use, they're minor and often easily resolved). Nintendo needs to step it up, and quit settling for sub-par equipment and half-assed releases. I for one won't be touching this new online service, and honestly encourage others not to until Nintendo gets their act together.
Remember that time a couple of months ago when Xbox doubled the price for Xbox Gold Online and people got too mad to the point that they had to change it?
I 100% agree, particularly with the Zelda games. I would have loved (and paid) for physical/digital copies that were better remasters. Many other companies have released remastered versions of older games that look and play well, this really does feel like a half-assed attempt to have us fork over more money. Also, considering the recent Zelda anniversary was fairly lackluster, I’m even more disappointed. I just really wanted some badass versions of Ocarina of Time and Majoras Mask I could play whether I could connect to the internet or not.
@@astrozach7778 Yeah, Nintendo went hard for the Mario anniversary and then acted like Zelda was no big thing. They could have at least ported the 3DS versions of OoT and MM to Switch (with minor adjustments to account for the different controls).
Thanks for the genuine honesty, along with some awesome edits as usual - personally I can see it being worth it, only if you buy the family plan to split it with friends. Besides that Nintendo seems to be reaching when asking their loyal fans to give them $50 a year, only to play N64 games they probably owned on 3DS and Wii YEARS before. Hopefully Nintendo will add more modern titles to actually give their subscribers their money's worth.
I really wanted to play "Win Back" and "Sin and Punishment" again, so I was pretty excited for this. But I'm also paying for the family plan for myself, at least one of my brothers, and my son. So uh... $80 a year is making me hesitate pretty hard. But if they just include the DLC for their future games that could make a big difference. Like, if having this got you the Fighters Passes for Smash that'd be pretty cool. So... I dunno. I'm gonna have to wait and see how it goes. ... I was really lookong forward to getting that N64 controller too.
Agreed! I use a fam pass for myself, hubby, mom, and sis. 80 is a LOT and is a big barrier for us. We want access, but that price tag is so high for so little.
As someone who’s first consoles were the Wii and DSi, the NSO Expansion Pack doesn’t have much appeal to me. I think that Nintendo is really banking on nostalgia to get that extra $30.
For me it is going to be a good value since I have the family plan and all three switches own a copy of Animal crossing. This way, instead of paying 25 for each person, I can just get the NSO expansion and even have a chance to see if I even want the ACNH happy home past this year. Plus I get to play N64 games I could not afford as a kid
The big kick for me is the online multiplayer with friends. That sounds like a blast and I would love to play Contra Hard Corps or Streets Of Rage 2 with a friend over a long distance away from me! It maybe worth it then but I’m probably not going to be able to make the money for the expansion pass soon.
8:56 so I'm seeing this alot where "the audio cuts out of mario kart" when it doesn't. If it did then it would affect the other games as well which it doesnt. Everyone says its specific to mario kart. The emulator is fine when it comes to audio. This "gltich" isnt a glitch at all and is an actually feature. In mario kart specifically, pressing the L button removes the music from races. No one knows that becuase on an actual N64 you're almost never pressing L where as L is right next the ZL so you're bound to hit L and remove the audio time to time. I agree that the emulator isnt perfect but this isn't the emulators fault.
At the bare minimum, (and assuming this DLC thing is going to continue with other games using expansion pack) Nintendo should’ve given a download code for the DLC. You should own it, not just “rent” it. It’s not like you can pay for one month and then cancel, effectively getting something for free. You can only get the 12 month plan.
Not seeing this in the comments, so apologies if it's been brought up Wood, but you can toggle the music off in Mario Kart 64 with the L button. It'll make a lil sound, you can hear it at 9:18, followed immediately your comments about it coming back on. The rest of the points in the other game, the fog and such, are fair points.
To be fair, I played a ton of Mario Kart on my N64 back in the day and I remember the courses' audio did stop playing sometimes even on my original cartridge.
My thoughts are, they priced it as high as they thought it was worth with a bigger library. They didn't have enough games working, but needed the revenue stream, so they announced it with the Animal Crossing DLC to sweeten the pot for the first year as they build the collection. It's much harder to price something lower upfront and then increase the price to what they think its worth once more games are in the collection.
Fair points, maybe "need" is a strong word. But a business is trying to make a profit. Nintendo as a whole might be flush with cash but individual divisions or teams in an organization usually have to prove they are worth the investments into their projects. At least where I've worked, management will cancel a project that takes too long, in order to redirect the budgeted money to other more lucrative projects. So we would get the product live and to the users with the basics and add to it over time once the revenue started coming in. Nintendo's expansion pass just rung a familiar tone for me, that's all.
even then if they wanted to use renting dlc as a boost to the values service for the inititial stage why just limit it to animal crossing one game that not every would be interested in. splatoon 2, btow and smash would make for a good viriety of dlc to rent. NSO expansion pack really feel likes it does nothing well enough to warrent buying it at all, too small of a game liabry and not enough dlc to rent
I used to let the Ocarina Of Time intro just play for hours. I love it so much that it could make me cry if I think about it too much. What a time it was
I already have several devices that can play N64 games really well so I'm not really interest at the moment, maybe in like a year if they add another system.
I still remember the first time I played Ocarina of Time. I was 11 years old and my local gaming shop had a pre-release of the game that only contained the game up to the Deku tree. Oh the nostalgia...
Uhhh the background music thing in MK64 is because you disabled the music and then re-enabled it, you can even hear a little beep to indicate you turned it back on in the video xd
Just make a custom button mapping in the Switch system settings. You can easily switch between layouts. You can store 5 layouts for each controller (and default always remains available outside those five).
You can't change the C-buttons to be the Right Stick, which is where the insanity of Nintendo's C Button placement comes from that they arbitrarily put two of them on the FACE BUTTONS and one of them is THE WRONG DIRECTION.
What I'm worried about is the expansion pack completely devaluing the original pack. I like super nintendo but never really had a N64, so I don't plan on getting this. Even though 20 bucks isn't much, a streaming service like Nintendo Online depends on new content to keep it valuable. Think Netflix keeps releasing new games. Will they completely stop releasing content for the old online? Will the next Tetris 99 type game only be on Expansion Pack? It seems like the original will become just paying to play online with no extra perks now. And it's not a mediocre service. Xbox Live and Playstation Plus are mediocre online services imo. Nintendos online stability is sub-par.
I have 3 thoughts- - I would have honestly paid 60 bucks for Zelda on its own. It's one of my nostalgia game and I truly value it on the Switch (not an emulator) - I was planning on getting the Animal Crossing DLC anyways, so it really sweetens the pot that it is included. - Mario Kart 64 is something my friends are truly missing and are super stoked about the game being on Switch. I really believe it's worth it to me.
Honestly I feel they should’ve had two different subscriptions one for purely online voice chat messaging friends etc. then the second separate subscription would be for retro games but they’d have every single Nintendo console and handheld on the service from day one that would be the ideal situation
The music cutting out on Mario Kart 64 actually happens when playing it on the actual Nintendo 64 console. I and family used to play N64 up until my second year of Highschool back around 2012 and the music cutting out happens all the time. It’s nothing new to me. So it’s not really that unusual, the emulation isn’t actually bad it’s just how they set up the music in the game
Actually they have improved online a little. They are improving the online infrastructure or something and Monster Hunter was the first to use it, but I think the improvement is only for Nintendo games. At the end of the day still have problems, but at least we can actually start playing with friends reliably on first party Nintendo games.
I just wish they could change to newer servers on already released games like animal crossing or Splatoon. I can't get online since my WiFi apparently isn't good for peer to peer wich is frustrating to say the least.
Honestly I'm convinced Capcom just used entirely their own online service for Monster Hunter if N64 games are this bad. If Nintendo really improved anything, they'd use it on Smash.
Monster Hunter was supposed to be a test. I mean why test out a new server type on a popular game like Smash with probably the worst first party online experience on the system. Makes more sense to test it on a demo for a new game and if it didn't work they could just switch it back to the old servers.
Another great video with a lot of great info. For this price point to be worth it for me, aside for more games we need to get a far better product for the online play. A voice chat and basic communication with other players should have been a day 1 part of this service. Has Nintendo given any info on why these features aren’t available? This is just a weird problem to have in 2021
It's to protect the children they claim. It is absolute ridiculous nonsense. It is called parental controls. No need to lock out basic features to a damn crappy smartphone app to protect the children.
Personally, I still have my N64 and my games. So if I REALLY wanted to play those games, I’d just dust it off and plug it in and play it rather than play that outrageous price tag. I’m gonna dish out that $30 CAN for the Animal Crossing DLC and I’ll get to keep it. I’m sticking with my basic Nintendo Online membership for now. Maybe in the long run it will be worth it, and although I never owned a Sega Genesis, it’s not enough to convince me to pay this. I’ll stick with MS Gamepass Ultimate. Their online service is excellent and their choice of games is unbeatable.
Voice chat? For 15$ ? Dream on. You will be glad if u get an inbuilt fax machine for extra 49,99 and they'll expect you to thank them for their inovation
Mario Kart 64: As you can see WulffDen has his finger on the L-button. I know some people have a problem with that but they unconsciously toggle between quieter MK64 music or off and on while driving. You can hear clearly the toggle by the short "bling".
The thing is, I've never played through OoT and MM, and there's a lot of interesting games right now that I would like to try out. Seriously, I can't really complain about it.... actually really excited. At the same time, if it's true according to the dataminig that there'll be a bunch of games and new systems in the future, I think it's worth it as a gamepass
I just love how nintendo keeps everyone from emulating and playing their favorite retro games via third party, or even first party methods, and yet when they emulate their own games it's just bad. AND you have to pay for it. Play zelda on the 3DS instead,
@@silentprayers728 they stopped making 3DS consoles, you have to buy them second hand and they're still expensive (I haven't seen one cheaper than £70)
"The very average online service". I would have to disagree with that. Not being able to chat with your friends without using a phone app and not even being able to message them is what I would consider "very below average online service".
I do wonder if Nintendo will go down the route of locking DLC for games behind the (pretty damned costly) online service. I don't play a lot online - especially on the switch, but it was just about worthwhile paying the £3-odd a month to access a selection of NES/SNES titles - and honestly probably not worth it really. I'd want to see GB, GBA, NDS & 3DS myself - for one reason, Pokemon Games... I have a GBA specifically for when I feel like going back and playing FR/LG, RSE... I have a 3DS for playing RBY, GSC, DPPt, BW, B2W2, OR/AS, etc - it frustrates me to no end that I can't play every main series game on one device without going with something hacked / emulators... that turned into a bit of a rant.
Honestly I don’t really listen to the music cause I try to play the games quietly so the fact that it doesn’t work doesn’t affect me now but I liked playing Mario Tennis tbh
12:40 Careful Wood, you can't refer to any of the expansion pack games as "Free" because the games are all you get extra from the expansion pack. The expansion pack is not an online service, it literally is a game streaming service of r N64 and sega games.
I’ve bought 12 months for our family subscription, for us it was worth it as we have 3 accounts on 3 switches and 3 fans of animal crossing. We can have some fun with the online (a couple of my daughters friends have their accounts on my family account) all try out the happy island designer and then at the end of 12 months we can see if we are still getting value or how many accounts just want the AC DLC.
The standalone DLC for ACNH is worth it at $25.99 as a one time purchase. With the Expansion pack for Nintendo Online, you will lose access to the DLC gameplay if you don't resub the next month, but some content will stay in your base game as it's part of the 2.0 update. I was really excited to play N64 games but hopefully the library grows in the future. It's very small right now and I would love to play other classic N64 games for such a price tag. I assume they will only port Nintendo games though, and not stuff like Golden Eye or Diddy Kong Racing. I honestly just want to play Mario64, Zelda, and Banjo Kazooie 😅
dude! one of the first things i did was change my mapping for the pro controller, go into the settings and change your mapping, made mario better to play. already beat starfox (lower path only) and man , getting used to the controls .... arrrrg , the problem i'm finding is the offset L/R triggers and tying the C buttons to the right analog, keep switching things i don't want to ..... specifically in the spy shooter thingy , never played it before , but i'm enjoying it.
I never got to experience the original n64, so there are a lot of games I’m wanting to play including both zeldas, Mario 64, Pokémon snap, Mario kart, and many more including a few sega games too so for me, I would say it’s worth it
- In my case, in Switzerland, the price increase isn't that awful - "only" about 80%. And we're in a family plan of 7 people. - Online play was flawless with my friends (all within the same region in Switzerland), we had a combination of wired and Wi-Fi - The button layout is a little awkward for sure, but I got used to it very quickly. I do like holding the ZR button while using the face buttons for input the C-buttons (in addition to able to use the right stick for those. And the A and B buttons situation doesn't bother me. However, I do think they should include a button mapping option! Sure you can use the feature in the system settings, but still... Lastly, I stay away from the X and Y buttons! :) - The mulation isn't perfect, but I find perfectly servicable and pretty good overall. I don't believe that pirated emulation is really that much better. If it is, it's not by very much. - Bottom line, I agree: this extra service can't please everyone. But Nintendo should make it more appealing: improve that bloody online quality however possible, include voice chat on the device and keep the phone app as an option (I do like the game-specific services if offers, though). Plus, we should have a more transparent road map for the retro games that'll be included as well as potentially extra DLC packs as well.
@@pokiblue5870 Or, like in my case, a group of 7 or 8 friends with whom you share the costs. However, I'm fully aware that we're in a minority of people.
SO, are you buying the Expansion Pack? & if so, WHAT GAME R YA PLAYIN' FIRST?! 😍
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Xbox game pass and xcloud need to teach Nintendo a lesson.
I hope the release of Steam Deck crashes Switch and make them realize the way they treat their customers is simply too greedy.
No not worth it for me personally.
I would buy it but am poor i have 3 years for the orher ones but the n64 is too expensive for me i might buy it later tho to play zelda games
Thank you for talking about how this is supposed to be an online service, not a game pass.
This is what I've been telling people for months now. I just want a good online service, not just old games. I'm happy to pay for old games separately or have them as a bonus, but the focus should really be the online aspect in the first place.
JUST GET THE OLD GAMES THATS BETTER THAN THE ONLINE
why cant they just add discord that ends everything
u could just speak through discord and everything
that ends voice chat and all the others
as for the online service why cant they can just cut out all the old games ,
add more features
and improve the quality
BAM
@@jaxsterminator8634 i couldnt care less about the old games i just emulate everything on pc i trashed 2ds xl as soon as switch came out
If you're going to charge 50 bucks, it needs to be akin to like game pass. Actually, this is closer to PS Now, minus current gen games. Regardless, this is a rip off.
100% not many people seem to remember that online should be their main focus
The big big problem behind this "expansion pack" is that, with it's release, there is no hope for us that Nintendo will improve on the current online service. No messaging friends, or invite them directly to our games in anytime, no voice chat, not even dedicated servers for most of their games. They ignored all our requests and decided to sell us an underwhelming product at $50 instead.
Are there dedicated servers for *any* of their games?? I thought they were all p2p.
What? You can't messege friends? WHAT? Nintendo online is trash, then. How do you people communicate? I don't use nintendo products so my expectations are probably too high from them.
@@coolperson4283 We have to use a mediocre app.
@@staticshock4239 on a smartphone. Not even on the switch itself. Madness.
true but i like n64 game
I think I figured out why Nintendo dropped you. You are honest and Nintendo only wants to be praised by people they sponsor.
It’s a compliment. You are honest and willing to say if something sucks. While Nintendo may shy away from such a trait, I really appreciate it.
Keep up the excellent work and excellent videos.
Cheers.
They dropped him because he pirated Breath of the Wild and recorded it lol.
@@DudeMan-xs3db I can’t tell if you’re joking. If not, then I’m a bit shocked.
@@brichan1851 You don't think it's strange he was dropped by Nintendo immediately after uploading a video of him playing BotW on his PC with mods? I can't tell if you're joking. If not, then I'm a bit shocked.
@@DudeMan-xs3db I guess I just didn’t know he did that.
@@DudeMan-xs3db what was he even thinking right? Such a dumb way to lose an important ally
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Stream it together or make a versus series in N64 games
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I agree with everything you’ve said, I wish Nintendo had different like “tiers” to their pricing. I don’t really care for sega nor the animal crossing add on as I don’t own the game so having to pay more for something I’m not going to use is a tad off.
If you could just choose to purchase the N64 pack for a certain price then you can add on the DLC or sega for the full price
Agreed. The lack of options is astounding to me. They should just separate it more instead of making it all a vague value. I'd be more inclined to actually consider buying some parts of the expansion pack then, but as it is, it's not worth it for me at all.
If the Genesis licensing theory ends up being real, then I think they should've put GameBoy and GameBoy Color games and only have to worry about emulating them properly and figuring out link cable emulation.
Sounds absurd to me. Sega's not exactly known for making it hard to sell Genesis titles. If anything, throwing Genesis games when startled seems to be their only natural defense.
I was really hoping GB/GBC/GBA would all come. It honestly seems like an easy road to make subscribers happy.
@@PoetsReap At this point, I'm guessing the price would increase another $25 or so if they added GB/GBA games.
Link-cable emulation was already figured out with 3DS
The link cable emulation must be wireless local and online
I would pay that price for GBA and Gamecube games. Plus a decent service. I don't think it's too much to ask, tbf
This actually makes sense. Why the heck the price this high for a non Nintendo service like Sega makes no sense. Nintendo just trying to make money off these as rereleases probably.
30 bucks would be worth it if they did add gba and gamecube days fot no additional cost.
You can emulate all those for free on PC
Lmao soo true and you keep the game. once you stop paying for the online service, you cant play the games anymore.
Honestly
I think nintendo should have an option for those who don't want the live service part of the online subscription and just want to be able to play online with their friends. I think a huge part of the complaints is that you HAVE to pay for the online + games even when you don't want to.
If we are considering future DLC as part of the expansion pack, we have to consider how often nintendo actually makes paid DLC. . . which is not alot. . . like twice a year if we don't count smash bros, and even then, it's usually for offline games.
So in that regard, if you are a single-player user who doesn't buy the base online, that would be $50 for 2 DLC that would have normally averaged out combined at $45 dollars since their paid DLC is usually $19.99. Meaning you are getting ripped off if you are buying it for that year's DLC.
*MY FEAR:*
is that to justify the LACK of DLC per year is they might start making what would have been free DLC now cost money. An example. Lets say we get 1 new mario golf map every 2 months. Now, all of a sudden, we don't get any new maps for 5 months. On the 6th month, they make an announcement where they are selling a pack of 3 maps for $5 to $10. Now we are in a reality where the content we would have gotten for free are now costing us money simply because nintendo wants to make the expansion pack artificially look more valuable. "Artificial Value" being something nintendo is VERY good at manipulating.
Just something to think about.
I would still pay for the DLC over a recurring charge. I may not own the content physically but it would still be tied to my account. If I wanted to pay a subscription for DLC I would play WoW. That being said I 100% agree with you.
It looks like I was right about being ripped off. They are raising the price of all their DLCs moving forward to $19.99 from $29.99 to justify the expansion pack.
I want to point out about the music issue in Mario Kart 64, that game has a feature that a lot of us completely forgot that it had that is causing that issue. One of the buttons is dedicated to music volume adjustment. Pressing it once will bring the music to 50% volume, pressing it again will turn music off completely, and then pressing it again will turn music back on at full blast. This threw me off too, because I ran into the same issue, but I found out it was because I was pressing that button. Once I was aware, it never happened again. I can tell that's what was happening to you guys too, because there's a little jingle that plays when you press the button to adjust the music, and I'm hearing that jingle every time your music goes in and out. So one of you was pressing that button.
... and which button is it now? :D
Edit: Google it, it's the L-Button. Btw, I remember this problem on the N64 and I always though that the music just turns off after some time and it seemed to me that this always happened on rainbow road. It's never too late to learn something new.
Thanks!
i could of sworn that this also occurred in the original mario kart 64, i remember at times racing in silence and only hearing the sound effects back then.
I always thought that the music was turned off when there where 4 people on multi-player because memory/frame rate issues lol
I see that easily happening with the joycons and pro controllers, but how on earth do you reach the L button during play with the original N64 controller?
@@UltimateTobi That's a good question. The only thing I can imagine is bumping the controller/the L-button against a object or the knee. Mario kart races can become quite intensive, more so as a kid^^
Nintendo needs to start taking notes from Playstation and Xbox with their subscription services.
Party Chat, Game chat, Messaging, Achievements/Trophies, Etc. All of these features came standard with the other consoles. If Nintendo wants to start having AAA game releases alongside Playstation and Xbox, they need to step their game up. I honestly believe there are a lot of gamers who would make the Switch their Main Console if at least some of these features could be added to the Online Service.
Yeah the price was fine for just basic service. But now they charging more than Ps Now for emulator games they lost their mind. Adding stuff we didn't ask for like old Sega games when Sega already has those game in eshop in a collection. Seems like money grab. If you charge full service you should deliver full service.
Luckily it's optional but still leaves bad taste because they seemed to dramatically up the price over original but giving old games. The price just doesn't seem fair as it an ad on to the original service but it's over 2x more . They should really ads more benefits. It might get there but seems smarter to minimum let library grow, but hopefully get more benefits too. Also it's so old school because you only can play with real friends not random people that can become friends.
Party chat!!!!!!!!!!!!! We. Need. It.
Hate to be that guy and say this: but as long as the loyalists who keep saying "NiNtEnDo cAn'T dO No WrOnG!" keep paying for this stuff Nintendo will never listen to criticism. This is a company that has cultivated a huge fanbase that conists of some who believe the company is 100% right with all their decisions. Why do you think that in the five years of the Switch's existence they have done almost next to nothing with improving their online? Online connections are still terrible for games like Smash Bros Ultimate, Super Mario Maker 2, and even Splatoon 2? Why is it that we have to rely on third party chat apps to communicate with our friends when Nintendo has the resources to make it so easy implement? It's cause Nintendo knows that those in the fanbase who are loyalists will give them money even when offering the bare minimum.
@@e1iteyoshi998 I feel like the people who genuinely defend Nintendo doing things like this are definitely in the minority, the like ratio of the price announcement video on YT is absurdly low. The reason Nintendo gets away with it is simply because of the first party games and casual market.
The average Joe outside of the comparatively smaller online community isn't gonna be paying attention to what fan games Nintendo DMCAs, or what tournaments they shut down, or the poor lifespan of the analog sticks, or what online features are just blatantly missing/barely working, they only want to go buy the Mario Kart game for the Nintendo that they played at their friend's house or at a family event once. And if they can pay 20 bucks a year to play *with* that friend/family online, that's pretty cheap compared to the price of the console so yeah why not. Doesn't matter if half of what you'd consider standard for an online service is missing, it works and is comparatively cheaper so yeah most people who haven't already got an expectation for what the quality of one of these services is supposed to be like is just gonna buy into it and not think anything about it
It's the same reason FIFA games sell like hotcakes every year. It doesn't matter if it's predatory or lazily made, it technically works and there's no alternatives so people are just gonna buy it
@@ACheapLemon But it's EA. Everything they make is a gambling simulator. Even when being investigated by the government they'll continue to do these practices cause in their mind they know who they're appealing their games to.
Without sounding cheap, no. I just can’t afford it. I’m over 40 with a family and &60 is a lot of money to me. Physical games i trade the previous games Ive played in towards them. I adore Animal Crossing and the idea it could be removed, or that it’s not mine leaves me just wanting to buy the dlc instead. I love Ocarina and enjoyed it on its original release but I’m happy at the moment to wait.
The worst part is that there is no other choice other than to shell out for the whole year too... at least the regular online can even be payed for by month
Get yo bands up homie.
I made a family group on the Nintendo website, 8 people. A year for this cost us $109 Australian, so that was $14 each. Now all eight of us get everything on offer.
@@the-youtube-enjoyer you’d be surprised. On gamepass I buy occasional months depending on games. ‘Control’ took a few weeks to complete then I left gamepass until something else interested me. If n64 online was monthly and users completed Zelda, I think a lot would cancel or downgrade the month after.
Yeah. I don’t have a family yet but have a mortgage and many bills, really can’t afford it either when I procrastinate on many things, such as minor repairs around the house or my old 2007 car with 160,000 miles on it. Nintendo sorta forgets that most of us are normal people already paying for numerous services. I can’t use the “only X more dollars for a year” excuse anymore. The pandemic and inflation is also squeezing us. The pricing was very insensitive and a slap in the face quite frankly.
Something that always puts me off is Nintendo’s smugness in regards to their perceived value of their retro games. Your old games are really only worth what people are willing to pay, you can’t force the value up on your 20-30 year old games.
They would need to do a few things to make it worth it. Especially for those of us who have a family plan.
1) Clear-cut defined schedule of what games are being released and when they are being released.
2) The ability to download and play offline either all or a selection of games (obviously not the crappy ones)
3) Introduction of GB, GBC, and GBA.
4) Purchase the stand alone upgrade automatically gets you one of the controllers (your choice) and family plan gets you at least two.
4 is laughable. You're absolutely ridiculous to expect expensive wireless controllers for free.
One thing to remember, which a lot of us who grew up with Nintendo (I'm an 80's baby so I had everything from the OG NES to now the Switch) tend to forget is that they have then and still are now the console for kids. It's the main reason why they can't give those of us who have stayed loyal to their systems something that may seem arbitrary (bc XBOX and PS have it) like texting and voice chat in-game.
To provide those kinds of services would, unfortunately, put the majority of their fanbase (kids) in harms way of adults who also use their console. And as much as we'd like to believe we (as in the 80's kids who are now full grown adults) are the largest fanbase for Nintendo, they are still in many ways the "family friendly" console that parents have felt more safe in giving their kids.
Nintendo, I am sure, sees themselves as the console families can trust. Just look all the commercials they release.
If you want texting or voice chatting, the place to go for that is XBOX or PS. True, Nintendo can put "parental controls" on their console to prevent anything bad coming through should they allow these features, but parents would then have to think twice about buying their kid a Nintendo device at that point.
It's the same with the Pokemon game. Those who hate it (adults) and those who probably don't but we don't hear from them (kids) is purely based on the franchise game not aging with us. Me, personally, I'm nostalgic for the way the game was and so I love the new Pokemon. But we see how things are on XBOX and PS and we say "hey, why can't Nintendo be more hardcore like this?" it's not because they can't. They simply won't. And that decision is what makes them STILL a contender and in many cases the top selling console against XBOX and PS.
PS: I did pay the extra $30 though I likely won't use the extras. I just like supporting Nintendo and what they are doing to keep that girl born in the early 80's able to reminisce in the good ole days...
I never thought about it like that and you do have a good point. Now that I think about it, Nintendo really is a family console and I would prefer to give my kid that instead of a ps4 or Xbox. I personally don't mind the no voice chat even tho it would be cool. It would nice if they do figure something out for the older fan base but it's fine if they can't I suppose.
i strongly disagree w this (i’m a teen btw) they don’t need to make it rando online vc which is dumb, but they should add vc w friends through the switch so you can have game audio and vc at the same time
also online that works would be nice
Bad argument. You can easily make it as it is right now the default option in every situation, but give advanced/adult users the ability to have the additional features which would make it a better online experience. This way you win with everyone. It's just Nintendo wanting to do as little as possible for as much money as they can make seem like a better value than it actually is.
The difference is pokemon Pearl was £24 pound which was a longer harder game with free post game and you could buy diamond for the same price but sword and shield was £40-50 and so if you wanted both for the version exclusive pokemon there almost £100 then the dlc was £17 and if you wanted it for both versions of the game you had to pay for it twice £40 , then if you only had one switch you had to pay a subscription fee of £15 for pokemon home to move pokemon and if you wanted to play online/competitively it’s £20 for online , it’s just milking pokemon fans for any money they have and making competitive pokemon basically pay to win as a lot of the competitive pokemon are behind a pay wall
My issue is why can’t I do it month by month vs a whole year? I don’t want to spend $50 immediately and regret it. I really wanted to play Zelda 🤦🏾♂️
I recommend the 3ds version, you can pick it up for pretty cheap and it's arguable better than the original version due to cleaned up graphics and a slightly reworked water temple.
@@ssfbob456 that would require having a 3DS
how is 50$ a year for a bunch of classic games and more added over time a bad deal / edit since people are crying lol i watched the video, unless your a kid or broke it’s not a bad deal for a bunchhh of games. lol sorry
Why do you think McFly? 😆
@@SundayNightGames coddle Nintendo more. You even watch the video
I had no interest in the basic service to begin with as I don't utilize cloud saves, play online, or care to access games I don't "own" - the new service price hike was not a great look. This seals the deal on not getting.
U need to pay so u can play star fox
@@matuscara4733 V1 switch and retroarch for me 👌
@@matuscara4733 thanks i'll play it on my emulator
Any games bought digitally or that require downloads to be able to play are not "owned" by you. If a game relies on verifying your account has the right to play these games, what happens when you can't access the servers? (It only works so many days without a connection) , what if the internet is down / doesn't exist where you are? What if Nintendo shuts down the servers for the system someday?
This, exactly. I'd like to buy a Virtual Console of Ocarina of Time, just like I bought the 3ds Cart, the GameCube disc, the N64 cart.
The regular $20 online also has that friends joining you on the emulators. A friend plays the SNES games with me and the connection is extremely smooth.
Exactly, you could literally have up to 3 other people watch you playthrough a game and have a good time together solving puzzles in link to the past or whatever. And then giving them control to take over if you want to pass it on.
Sakura think about all the times you hit Naruto he a god now
Yes daddy
whose sakura? kek
Unpopular opinion: I think it would be great to separate the online subscription from the getting old games sub. I just want to play these games. Not necessarily with anyone because all of the people who I used to play these games with in the 90s don't freaking have a Switch. So I'd be perfectly content paying less for no online and games only. 🙃
YEESSSS
Im so happy that you made the point about it being an online Service that doesn’t actually offer good a online experience.I have been getting so frustrated that everyone is just talking about the games. For me the online service itself was never worth it and them making it even more expensive feels like a joke. I feel like they wanted to get more money out of it but realized only the N64 games wouldn’t be enough so they bundled in genesis and the DLC.
You hit the nail on the head at the end there, the actual online service at its core is horrendous for 2021. The original xbox had a better service back in 2003! Why people pay for this joke subscription is beyond me
You need to to play most if not all games online that aren't free to play or otherwise excepted. We HAVE to pay for at least the base service. Kinda makes it suck even more, cos maybe that's why Nintendo hasn't done crap with it yet. They don't have to, even if everyone and their parents are screaming that they really should.
The thing is... there is no alternative. I HAD to pay, so I could play with my friends online, and with the pandemic, there was no other option.
@@ChiplockRock There is another option. Nobody buys it and Nintendo is forced to make a better service
I mean most people won't think about this before buying it. Maybe the minority sure, but even then they'll still buy it.
I mean your not actually getting an online service as such, your basically paying Nintendo to allow peer to peer connection with other players , it's laughable
16:14 THIS... this right now. Having this weird makeshift "Game Pass" and all these nostalgic games mean nothing if the online is just as mediocre as it was back on the WII... and it used to be free so back then, we put up with that.
But when we knew it was gonna be paid back in 2017, we had hope for improvement to the online as a whole. And all Nintendo seems to care about is MILKING the nostalgia with these retro titles on NES, SNES, N64, & GENESIS while not addressing the issues being brought up so often about the online.
The selling point of playing N64 games with friends means nothing to me when the service is just mediocre and overpriced for what's being offered. If we're not having fun with it, why even bother?
I honestly wouldn't mind paying more for a Nintendo service that is similar to Game Pass. Game Pass Ultimate is $180 per year and includes Xbox Live Gold ($60 per year alone) plus over 800 games across Xbox and PC, most of which are from the 2010s/20s. I would pay $200 per year if Nintendo improves their online to match Sony and Microsoft, add games to the existing consoles on NSO, add tons of games for their other old consoles up to the 3DS and Wii U, and include some Switch games.
Yeah I would buy the expansion pass if it had more things I’m just gonna buy the acnh dlc
Exactly!
I'd like to see a basic 5€ service where you can just connect with friends globally. No cloud saving, no games, just....being able to visit friends in Animal Crossing (for example) without having to pay 20
You can't afford $20 for a year? L not even $2 each month...
@@phantomliger89 Well it's more that I wouldn't use it much. I don't have that many friends with switches, and I don't have much time to play. So maybe to use 4-5 times a year it seems expensive.
@@phantomliger89 ignorant
My main thing, is I’m in charge of the family membership with my two siblings, and we all play Animal Crossing. So it would cost me a min of 50 for 2DLCs if I do some weird player/home-device shenanigans (which might annoy them to set up). Or 75 for all of them bought individually. And then on top of that, with the subscriptions we get extra things like ocarina, and potentially new DLCs like Pokemon, which would be worth it for me in particular.
But then there’s that nagging thought that if we ever stop, we just can’t play Animal Crossing? If you stop, how much would it affect the gameplay? Would it wreck any of the game files to stop and start again later?
It’s confusing and annoying. Cause it makes sense now, but I’m just worried about later. Especially as Animal Crossing is a game that never really dies. One of my siblings still logs in to their new leaf DS game now and again. It’s perplexing, and I just wish they made it a little bit cheaper, cause it’s hard to justify the giant annual price. We’ll see I suppose. 🤔
I'm hoping with the acnh dlc that you just won't be able to do the job aspect, but you'll still get to keep the changes on your island. I feel like if everything disappeared then you wouldn't be able to play/the file would get corrupted and both of those options would hurt Nintendo. I think players will be trading the new items with other players who can't get the dlc like they've been doing with the Sanrio items
I really feel like if they add more games especially heavily requested games and handhelds like gameboy or gameboy advance or maybe even other sega consoles it would definitely worth it or maybe just making the online better like adding trophies and party chat
Give me a trophie
100% agree with this.
I think Nintendo except for what the have shown they will be adding that there is nothing else coming as that’s how they roll.
If they're just going to put in the lowest effort of emulation then they might as well give us a hundred games, just every first party game (the ones they don't have to license) and then I'd say the price is reasonable.
I would say they would ask for even more money if they added more consoles.
The Switch operating system really needs stuff like Party Chat on console like Xbox and being able to message friends on console like PlayStation and Xbox. If they added this and improved the new Switch online subscription with more pieces that make it worth the price (also fixing the issues) I personally believe this would make the Switch better then it is today and help it start a new generation on this console.
Also love your vids, keep making more and I promise to keep on loving them
Now it's the only save way to let my Child of 6 year play a game without to worry about strangers around him.
Tbh as someone who played other handhelds (as that's what the switch primarily is) with voice chat I personally don't think it would be as good as people want it to be. Now messaging would be nice between friends
@@edwindevries5869 I agree
A comment before yours made a really good point about this saying that Nintendo and its products are Family friendly. Although parents can use parental controls they can't control what people online say. There are obviously older Nintendo fans and do play these games alongside kids. So ultimately it does make sense why they haven't done it yet. But it would be great if they did have these features nonetheless
Nintendo won’t give us party chat. It’s Nintendo
Really hope Nintendo interprets any impact to sales as “oh we’re charging too much,” and not “huh people don’t care about N64 I guess.”
The game cartridge is already OP then releasing dlc with the same price as the OG game with little content. Pinching people to waste their money on little play time. Not cool.
You know it's gonna be the latter. That kind of thought process from them is probably why Virtual Console ceased to exist.
I'm confident this will be a success for them. People complain a lot online but it doesn't matter as long as Nintendo gets it's $$$.
Nintendo fans arent that smart, they will pay for this overpriced service
@@IvanGarcia-xf3qd yeah they would buy a card board box if it had Nintendo on it
Bob and Wood are so different in their content and presentation of content. But they are so good together. I love these moments.
Man the intro gave me chills even tho I was born in 2003 lol. The title of OOT is just too nostalgic. I used to watch my brother play Zelda games all the time and we had this on virtual consol for the wii. I miss waking up early before school to watch him play animal crossing and zelda :(
Personally, I’ll be buying the DLC for Animal Crossing and I already have Mario 64 as part of 3D All Stars. There’s not enough there for me to shell out an extra $30/year.
i think the problem is that you cant pay month per month. i agree on all points with you , i am in the same boat. i would consider buying the expansion for a few months , play the titles i want and then be done with it till they release stuff that i am maybe interested in .
8:55 The L button toggles the music, you can hear the toggle sound, are you sure one of you didn't accidently press L? It only works on 1-2 players AFAIK
Yeah I noticed that too, I dont know why Nintendo had that as a feature back then, but it was
Yea he def turned the music off himself
yes lol
Bruh the intro hit my nostalgia train. Hearing Epona gallop is insta chicken skin.
‘Chicken skin’ lmao
Bruh what is chicken skin you from hollans
Idk what chicken skin means but I’m gonna agree anyway
@@delgat000 in Holland we say “kippenvel” literally translated to “chicken skin” but in otherwords it means Goosebump. I have no clue if he was regering to it tho.
Oh, so I somehow mistook goosebumps for chicken skin. Don’t ask me how though lol.
i watch this guy when i have really bad anxiety sometimes and it really helps the way he talks to the viewer makes me feel like i’m with someone even when i’m alone and it really helps so much love to this man!! also he’s an aussie also might be wrong but he sounds like he’s from melbourne
Wolf, I'm a 27 year old single father who collects retro games as a hobby and occasionally plays them as an escape from the struggles of life. Lately I've been struggling mentally and been in the lowest and darkest point of my life because of financials taking a hit and feeling like I can't climb back up and potentially not being able to give my kiddo a good life. Moving away from that, your videos, your channel have helped distract me from those not okay thoughts and occasionally make me forget how hard everything is for a bit. Just wanted to reach out and thank you for being you and the distractions. Peace and love, Brandon.
To be honest I'm not mad anymore. I'm just sad that a company that has literally made my childhood and still continues to give me enjoyment to this day doesn't care.
"a company that has literally made my childhood and still continues to give me enjoyment to this day doesn't care"
I always find it problematic to give companies personality traits like that. A company is not one person. It's a name for a group of people working together for a specific period of time before some of them leave the company and get replaced by new people and so on. Nintendo is just a brand name like every other brand name and most of the people, who were there at the beginning, aren't even there anymore. It's also a company and just like every other company... they wanna make the money. The only reason why Nintendo seemed genuine at the beginning is because gaming wasn't as huge back then as it is nowadays. Once a medium reaches a certain size it gets corrupted. The movie and music industry were predecessors to this sad direction swift and the gaming industry is following those foot steps. We should stop defending companies (because let's be real... they are all bad) and should judge products individually instead (no matter which company is behind it).
@@RizzerixLP people really be thinking nintendo is a charity
That de-escalated quickly
@@RizzerixLP he's the part I just don't understand. They're a company who wants to make Money. Then why are they so linear with online. If they had a good service they would make more money. We are trying to help them make it better by pushing. And even if people buy it anyway, shouldn't that like encourage Nintendo to make it better so that more people will buy it instead of dencourage it? I mean that's simple economics. Supply and demand.
they never cared my guy, and they'll keep taking your money as long as you pay.
The opening theme for ocarina of time is one of those serotonin sounds for me. Instantly throws me back into nostalgic memories of simpler times.
Maybe one day I'll feel like I used to again.
As much as I want it to play the N64 games because I haven’t played any I’m not quite keen on the $50 right now.
Sucky emulation and no optimal controller
High priced upfront cost I'm thinking of just passing on it
N64??? Your not missing much.
@00:51 TFW you're 13, the greatest game of all time drops and you just bought it! So much nostalgia..
Wow I got chills hearing that title screen for zelder. Love ya wood!!!!
I'm a die-hard, long time Nintendo fan, and the N64 is the console I credit with getting me into gaming (Ocarina of Time and the 64 version of Resident Evil 2 were the first games that I fell in love with, having mostly played NES, SNES, and Sega games with my family before that). That said, Nintendo is really snoozing on the potential of the Switch, and this online service highlights that. How hard would it be to release Joy-Cons that have a special N64 style layout to make playing those old games that much easier (though I'd rant all day about the failures of the Joy-Cons, and all the missed opportunities that Nintendo could have had with those)? With fan driven emulation being both free and practically flawless, albeit questionably legal at best and blatantly illegal at worst, why is the company that made the games having trouble emulating them? As much as I love Nintendo, I feel like they've grown comfortable and complacent with their position in the console wars and the security of their fanbase. Since Nintendo thrives on exclusives that we all grew up with, like Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Donkey Kong, etc, and offers a relatively different style of game play from PlayStation or Xbox, they don't feel like they need to do anything special to compete or apply any additional effort to fix their own mistakes. A good example of this is that I would have probably bought a Switch Lite, and would have considered a Switch OLED, but since I know they're still using the same old Joy-Cons with the same old drift, I can't justify it (I use the Hori Split Pad Pro, and while it's starting to have issues after more than a few years of use, they're minor and often easily resolved). Nintendo needs to step it up, and quit settling for sub-par equipment and half-assed releases. I for one won't be touching this new online service, and honestly encourage others not to until Nintendo gets their act together.
Remember that time a couple of months ago when Xbox doubled the price for Xbox Gold Online and people got too mad to the point that they had to change it?
@@ringofdreal1374 I don't subscribe to any company making you pay for online gaming, so I wasn't aware of that, but I'm not surprised.
I 100% agree, particularly with the Zelda games. I would have loved (and paid) for physical/digital copies that were better remasters. Many other companies have released remastered versions of older games that look and play well, this really does feel like a half-assed attempt to have us fork over more money. Also, considering the recent Zelda anniversary was fairly lackluster, I’m even more disappointed. I just really wanted some badass versions of Ocarina of Time and Majoras Mask I could play whether I could connect to the internet or not.
@@astrozach7778 Yeah, Nintendo went hard for the Mario anniversary and then acted like Zelda was no big thing. They could have at least ported the 3DS versions of OoT and MM to Switch (with minor adjustments to account for the different controls).
Well, first of all, you played RE2 wrong. The N64 was a garbage port. The PSX version has always been and will always be superior.
Thanks for the genuine honesty, along with some awesome edits as usual - personally I can see it being worth it, only if you buy the family plan to split it with friends. Besides that Nintendo seems to be reaching when asking their loyal fans to give them $50 a year, only to play N64 games they probably owned on 3DS and Wii YEARS before.
Hopefully Nintendo will add more modern titles to actually give their subscribers their money's worth.
I really wanted to play "Win Back" and "Sin and Punishment" again, so I was pretty excited for this. But I'm also paying for the family plan for myself, at least one of my brothers, and my son. So uh... $80 a year is making me hesitate pretty hard.
But if they just include the DLC for their future games that could make a big difference. Like, if having this got you the Fighters Passes for Smash that'd be pretty cool. So... I dunno. I'm gonna have to wait and see how it goes.
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I was really lookong forward to getting that N64 controller too.
Agreed! I use a fam pass for myself, hubby, mom, and sis. 80 is a LOT and is a big barrier for us. We want access, but that price tag is so high for so little.
Project 64 download all the roms you want buy a n64 usb pad £10 and enjoy
As someone who’s first consoles were the Wii and DSi, the NSO Expansion Pack doesn’t have much appeal to me. I think that Nintendo is really banking on nostalgia to get that extra $30.
For me it is going to be a good value since I have the family plan and all three switches own a copy of Animal crossing. This way, instead of paying 25 for each person, I can just get the NSO expansion and even have a chance to see if I even want the ACNH happy home past this year. Plus I get to play N64 games I could not afford as a kid
That's a good point
I miss blockbuster it was an amazing time to be alive during that time
I haven't played starfox64 (my childhood favorite game) in years so I bought it and I had a tear playing 😢
The big kick for me is the online multiplayer with friends.
That sounds like a blast and I would love to play Contra Hard Corps or Streets Of Rage 2 with a friend over a long distance away from me!
It maybe worth it then but I’m probably not going to be able to make the money for the expansion pass soon.
8:56 so I'm seeing this alot where "the audio cuts out of mario kart" when it doesn't. If it did then it would affect the other games as well which it doesnt. Everyone says its specific to mario kart. The emulator is fine when it comes to audio. This "gltich" isnt a glitch at all and is an actually feature. In mario kart specifically, pressing the L button removes the music from races. No one knows that becuase on an actual N64 you're almost never pressing L where as L is right next the ZL so you're bound to hit L and remove the audio time to time. I agree that the emulator isnt perfect but this isn't the emulators fault.
The LoZ OoT menu sound is litterally my whole childhood
At the bare minimum, (and assuming this DLC thing is going to continue with other games using expansion pack) Nintendo should’ve given a download code for the DLC. You should own it, not just “rent” it. It’s not like you can pay for one month and then cancel, effectively getting something for free. You can only get the 12 month plan.
That Zelda music is like a monsoon of nostalgic feelings
Thats why I went out of my way to get NSO+Expansion pack for $10. Screw the $50 or $80 price tag.
For 10? How?
@@hikariyagaza I joined someones family plan.
Love how this dude says Astral Chain needs a DLC nonchalantly, keep pushing boys, we can get this!!
Not seeing this in the comments, so apologies if it's been brought up Wood, but you can toggle the music off in Mario Kart 64 with the L button. It'll make a lil sound, you can hear it at 9:18, followed immediately your comments about it coming back on. The rest of the points in the other game, the fog and such, are fair points.
I remember having this same sound glitch playing rainbow road on the n64 back then. Maybe the emulation is really accurate 😂
To be fair, I played a ton of Mario Kart on my N64 back in the day and I remember the courses' audio did stop playing sometimes even on my original cartridge.
Yup! I had the same experience back then. Still, would’ve been nice for Nintendo to take the time to address it now haha
The L button in Mario Kart 64 mutes and unmutes the music. You must have been pressing it by accident
@@powergannon that’s totally possible, thanks for that info :)
My thoughts are, they priced it as high as they thought it was worth with a bigger library. They didn't have enough games working, but needed the revenue stream, so they announced it with the Animal Crossing DLC to sweeten the pot for the first year as they build the collection. It's much harder to price something lower upfront and then increase the price to what they think its worth once more games are in the collection.
Nintendo can operate in the hole for 10 plus years straight and not break a sweat.
Fair points, maybe "need" is a strong word. But a business is trying to make a profit. Nintendo as a whole might be flush with cash but individual divisions or teams in an organization usually have to prove they are worth the investments into their projects. At least where I've worked, management will cancel a project that takes too long, in order to redirect the budgeted money to other more lucrative projects. So we would get the product live and to the users with the basics and add to it over time once the revenue started coming in. Nintendo's expansion pass just rung a familiar tone for me, that's all.
even then if they wanted to use renting dlc as a boost to the values service for the inititial stage why just limit it to animal crossing one game that not every would be interested in. splatoon 2, btow and smash would make for a good viriety of dlc to rent. NSO expansion pack really feel likes it does nothing well enough to warrent buying it at all, too small of a game liabry and not enough dlc to rent
I used to let the Ocarina Of Time intro just play for hours. I love it so much that it could make me cry if I think about it too much. What a time it was
Lon Lon ranch music is what I always used to love.
If I remember correctly- in mario kart 64- there is a c button that toggles music- so it was probably just that
I already have several devices that can play N64 games really well so I'm not really interest at the moment, maybe in like a year if they add another system.
The video that I was expecting since yesterday. Thank you so much Wood 😍
When playing OoT I keep using the right stick to try and move the camera and I keep pulling out the slingshot!
@Zooka would have to be like in the old days where you move Link into a direction and press the z button I’d think
I still remember the first time I played Ocarina of Time. I was 11 years old and my local gaming shop had a pre-release of the game that only contained the game up to the Deku tree. Oh the nostalgia...
Uhhh the background music thing in MK64 is because you disabled the music and then re-enabled it, you can even hear a little beep to indicate you turned it back on in the video xd
Just make a custom button mapping in the Switch system settings. You can easily switch between layouts. You can store 5 layouts for each controller (and default always remains available outside those five).
Make a vid to show this
@@matuscara4733 lmao
You can't change the C-buttons to be the Right Stick, which is where the insanity of Nintendo's C Button placement comes from that they arbitrarily put two of them on the FACE BUTTONS and one of them is THE WRONG DIRECTION.
What I'm worried about is the expansion pack completely devaluing the original pack. I like super nintendo but never really had a N64, so I don't plan on getting this.
Even though 20 bucks isn't much, a streaming service like Nintendo Online depends on new content to keep it valuable. Think Netflix keeps releasing new games. Will they completely stop releasing content for the old online? Will the next Tetris 99 type game only be on Expansion Pack?
It seems like the original will become just paying to play online with no extra perks now. And it's not a mediocre service. Xbox Live and Playstation Plus are mediocre online services imo. Nintendos online stability is sub-par.
I have 3 thoughts-
- I would have honestly paid 60 bucks for Zelda on its own. It's one of my nostalgia game and I truly value it on the Switch (not an emulator)
- I was planning on getting the Animal Crossing DLC anyways, so it really sweetens the pot that it is included.
- Mario Kart 64 is something my friends are truly missing and are super stoked about the game being on Switch.
I really believe it's worth it to me.
Honestly I feel they should’ve had two different subscriptions one for purely online voice chat messaging friends etc. then the second separate subscription would be for retro games but they’d have every single Nintendo console and handheld on the service from day one that would be the ideal situation
The music cutting out on Mario Kart 64 actually happens when playing it on the actual Nintendo 64 console.
I and family used to play N64 up until my second year of Highschool back around 2012 and the music cutting out happens all the time. It’s nothing new to me. So it’s not really that unusual, the emulation isn’t actually bad it’s just how they set up the music in the game
I like waking up and knowing that I have Wood to look forward to.
Wtf what time do you wake up lol
Nice wood mate
Yeah I usually wake up with morning wood
But I dont particularly look forward to it
I see what you did there
😏
Actually they have improved online a little. They are improving the online infrastructure or something and Monster Hunter was the first to use it, but I think the improvement is only for Nintendo games. At the end of the day still have problems, but at least we can actually start playing with friends reliably on first party Nintendo games.
I just wish they could change to newer servers on already released games like animal crossing or Splatoon. I can't get online since my WiFi apparently isn't good for peer to peer wich is frustrating to say the least.
Honestly I'm convinced Capcom just used entirely their own online service for Monster Hunter if N64 games are this bad.
If Nintendo really improved anything, they'd use it on Smash.
Monster Hunter was supposed to be a test. I mean why test out a new server type on a popular game like Smash with probably the worst first party online experience on the system. Makes more sense to test it on a demo for a new game and if it didn't work they could just switch it back to the old servers.
Overall I think $40 would be a fairer price. That and the N64 games being flawless emulations instead of the current glitches.
Hey, you can also get the family membership, if you find other 7 people each can pay 10 dollars a year
Up here in Canada it's $70
Another great video with a lot of great info. For this price point to be worth it for me, aside for more games we need to get a far better product for the online play. A voice chat and basic communication with other players should have been a day 1 part of this service. Has Nintendo given any info on why these features aren’t available? This is just a weird problem to have in 2021
It's to protect the children they claim. It is absolute ridiculous nonsense. It is called parental controls. No need to lock out basic features to a damn crappy smartphone app to protect the children.
Personally, I still have my N64 and my games. So if I REALLY wanted to play those games, I’d just dust it off and plug it in and play it rather than play that outrageous price tag. I’m gonna dish out that $30 CAN for the Animal Crossing DLC and I’ll get to keep it. I’m sticking with my basic Nintendo Online membership for now. Maybe in the long run it will be worth it, and although I never owned a Sega Genesis, it’s not enough to convince me to pay this. I’ll stick with MS Gamepass Ultimate. Their online service is excellent and their choice of games is unbeatable.
Same here!
Agreed, bro! My 3 N64s and I will join! lol.
Nintendo: "If you want properly implemented voice chat, we will have to add another $15/y to your cost for that feature."
Voice chat? For 15$ ? Dream on. You will be glad if u get an inbuilt fax machine for extra 49,99 and they'll expect you to thank them for their inovation
You can turn the music on/off with "L / L1" button, so the music isnt really bugged :D if it is off, press it once and wait, and it turns on.
Mario Kart 64: As you can see WulffDen has his finger on the L-button. I know some people have a problem with that but they unconsciously toggle between quieter MK64 music or off and on while driving. You can hear clearly the toggle by the short "bling".
The thing is, I've never played through OoT and MM, and there's a lot of interesting games right now that I would like to try out. Seriously, I can't really complain about it.... actually really excited. At the same time, if it's true according to the dataminig that there'll be a bunch of games and new systems in the future, I think it's worth it as a gamepass
You convinced me, I'm gonna replay astral chain
I just love how nintendo keeps everyone from emulating and playing their favorite retro games via third party, or even first party methods, and yet when they emulate their own games it's just bad. AND you have to pay for it. Play zelda on the 3DS instead,
You'd have to have a 3ds though
@@elijah6169 not that expensive
@@silentprayers728 they stopped making 3DS consoles, you have to buy them second hand and they're still expensive (I haven't seen one cheaper than £70)
I distinctly remember the music cutting in and out back in the 90s, playing the original.
Missed the panel at retropalooza was wondering if we would be possibly getting a recap of that weekend? Was awesome meeting you!
"The very average online service". I would have to disagree with that. Not being able to chat with your friends without using a phone app and not even being able to message them is what I would consider "very below average online service".
Whyyy
And couldn't one like remap the switch controller even if you can't change the maping on NSO,.you could still affect that.
I do wonder if Nintendo will go down the route of locking DLC for games behind the (pretty damned costly) online service.
I don't play a lot online - especially on the switch, but it was just about worthwhile paying the £3-odd a month to access a selection of NES/SNES titles - and honestly probably not worth it really.
I'd want to see GB, GBA, NDS & 3DS myself - for one reason, Pokemon Games...
I have a GBA specifically for when I feel like going back and playing FR/LG, RSE... I have a 3DS for playing RBY, GSC, DPPt, BW, B2W2, OR/AS, etc - it frustrates me to no end that I can't play every main series game on one device without going with something hacked / emulators... that turned into a bit of a rant.
Good video
I love the intro too XD it's nostalgic
The sponsor skits are cool too!
Its more expensive for me Sadge
Honestly I don’t really listen to the music cause I try to play the games quietly so the fact that it doesn’t work doesn’t affect me now but I liked playing Mario Tennis tbh
I didn't own an n64 and only briefly played Zelda OoT on an emulator around 2002. I wanted this service for the Genesis games. But not for this price.
12:40 Careful Wood, you can't refer to any of the expansion pack games as "Free" because the games are all you get extra from the expansion pack. The expansion pack is not an online service, it literally is a game streaming service of r N64 and sega games.
I’ve bought 12 months for our family subscription, for us it was worth it as we have 3 accounts on 3 switches and 3 fans of animal crossing. We can have some fun with the online (a couple of my daughters friends have their accounts on my family account) all try out the happy island designer and then at the end of 12 months we can see if we are still getting value or how many accounts just want the AC DLC.
The standalone DLC for ACNH is worth it at $25.99 as a one time purchase. With the Expansion pack for Nintendo Online, you will lose access to the DLC gameplay if you don't resub the next month, but some content will stay in your base game as it's part of the 2.0 update. I was really excited to play N64 games but hopefully the library grows in the future. It's very small right now and I would love to play other classic N64 games for such a price tag. I assume they will only port Nintendo games though, and not stuff like Golden Eye or Diddy Kong Racing. I honestly just want to play Mario64, Zelda, and Banjo Kazooie 😅
dude! one of the first things i did was change my mapping for the pro controller, go into the settings and change your mapping, made mario better to play. already beat starfox (lower path only) and man , getting used to the controls .... arrrrg , the problem i'm finding is the offset L/R triggers and tying the C buttons to the right analog, keep switching things i don't want to ..... specifically in the spy shooter thingy , never played it before , but i'm enjoying it.
Btw You can swap the Buttons in the Switch Config itself for Joycons and Pro Controllers, but its just a workaround.
I never got to experience the original n64, so there are a lot of games I’m wanting to play including both zeldas, Mario 64, Pokémon snap, Mario kart, and many more including a few sega games too so for me, I would say it’s worth it
- In my case, in Switzerland, the price increase isn't that awful - "only" about 80%. And we're in a family plan of 7 people.
- Online play was flawless with my friends (all within the same region in Switzerland), we had a combination of wired and Wi-Fi
- The button layout is a little awkward for sure, but I got used to it very quickly. I do like holding the ZR button while using the face buttons for input the C-buttons (in addition to able to use the right stick for those. And the A and B buttons situation doesn't bother me. However, I do think they should include a button mapping option! Sure you can use the feature in the system settings, but still... Lastly, I stay away from the X and Y buttons! :)
- The mulation isn't perfect, but I find perfectly servicable and pretty good overall. I don't believe that pirated emulation is really that much better. If it is, it's not by very much.
- Bottom line, I agree: this extra service can't please everyone. But Nintendo should make it more appealing: improve that bloody online quality however possible, include voice chat on the device and keep the phone app as an option (I do like the game-specific services if offers, though). Plus, we should have a more transparent road map for the retro games that'll be included as well as potentially extra DLC packs as well.
probably a good deal if you have big family of 8 kids
@@pokiblue5870 Or, like in my case, a group of 7 or 8 friends with whom you share the costs. However, I'm fully aware that we're in a minority of people.
@@Cynim i think the best would be to share with 20 ppl but have 8 ppl maximum using the service lol
@@pokiblue5870 true! 🤣
That playful jab @10:00 lmao "because he loves...MARY-o"