I love that you guys are doing this in a truly off the shelf car that anyone can go out and buy. It's not some 600+ horsepower car with trick suspension or anything, just a 100% stock wrx. This is the stuff that's helpful to see! This series is awesome, love it!!
I feel like something thats understated is just how fast the lift-turn-brake maneuver happens, like, the tradeoff feels faster than you can say it (I imagine if I said L-T-B quickly, that might match up timing wise to how fast it happens), going frame by frame on the feet and wheel.
@@mediocreman2 theres like 6 frames of footage between when Wyatts foot comes off the gas, the lift, and when he starts applying the brake. Thats a quarter of a second. The effect on the car is slow, theres time to maneuver and adjust it, I think thats what theyre referring to. Upsetting a cars suspension enough to do things like this, especially on asphalt in an all wheel drive car, it takes movements that are either harder or faster in succession than we normally drive. Even his students first successful attempts still came in at 21 frames from lift to brake, thats less than a second.
try it in the snow if you can - it's almost 100% safe due to lack of friction (and you can do it with slower speed) alternatively - gravel or dirt road, but it will not be somewhat taxing on the car in this case
It's deff better in a manual but as they stated multiple times your not using power or the drivetrain it's all about upsetting the car and using inertia. This could probably be done in a fwd 150hp civic if the driver has the skills to pull it off
When left foot braking If i keep foot on the gas go right brake go left and lift off both gas and brake will it corner even sharper In theory Its like combining lift off oversteer with the scandi flick?
Ken was also performing his JimConnor stuffs in some sort of staged rally car with anywhere between 500 and 1500 AWHP, so doing these Flick drifts is mucho easier to pull off
You are tempting me to try this with my Golf R, but I'll pass. Instead, I'll wait till I can pratice on one of your car first ahahah and only try with my car once I've learned with your😅.
If I’m not mistaken, you should be able to heel-toe downshift this, which should basically make it easier, then all you need to worry about is where you’re steering the car.
@@RandomGamer-yo3tn no, it doesn’t. It would make shifting into the lower gear smoother and you could get into the lower gear sooner basically, rather than in the middle/towards the end of your turn. Because of this, you should be able to come in hotter/brake later. I’ve done it with my FWD Scirocco on an Autocross course. However, I’m not technically a professional at drifting, so I would like to confirm with the experts.
See how fast you can go without drifting, then take 10-15 mph off and try drifting at that, working your way up to something closer to 5mph under, but on paved roads drifting is slower, so if you can do it at 35mph without drifting, if you entered at 35 trying to drift you likely wouldn't make it (at least not on the same line, probably wouldn't crash, just end up wide.)
I love that you guys are doing this in a truly off the shelf car that anyone can go out and buy. It's not some 600+ horsepower car with trick suspension or anything, just a 100% stock wrx. This is the stuff that's helpful to see! This series is awesome, love it!!
fr I was like stock wheels, check, stock suspension, check, stock interior, check.
I remember watching a vid on Ken's gymkhana Fiesta and the entire car was built to handle on tarmac like it was on gravel
I am also astonished that stock wrx can do it on tarmac. Always thought you need tons of power to do it with awd.
Empty parking lots hate this one trick
This is great, guys. Including the pedal cam is especially helpful!
Having the barrels be Monster was a nice touch. KB43!
I feel like something thats understated is just how fast the lift-turn-brake maneuver happens, like, the tradeoff feels faster than you can say it (I imagine if I said L-T-B quickly, that might match up timing wise to how fast it happens), going frame by frame on the feet and wheel.
I don't know, it was pretty slow. They even commented how much time they had.
@@mediocreman2 theres like 6 frames of footage between when Wyatts foot comes off the gas, the lift, and when he starts applying the brake. Thats a quarter of a second. The effect on the car is slow, theres time to maneuver and adjust it, I think thats what theyre referring to. Upsetting a cars suspension enough to do things like this, especially on asphalt in an all wheel drive car, it takes movements that are either harder or faster in succession than we normally drive. Even his students first successful attempts still came in at 21 frames from lift to brake, thats less than a second.
All in a stock wrx. Perfect.
Love this series!
Thank you!
Thanks for the pedal cam on the tutorial. Much appreciated.
I feel like this video (these videos) are like tailored to me. Frickin' love this. I've gotta get bigger balls to start going sideways in summer now 😅
Very relatable with stock WRX; I hope for a Team O'Neil tarmac day in Canaan.
Doc and Lightning would be proud.
that cars 1 reference, loved it
Awesome , great stuff guys
@@bradbeattie6248 thank you for checking it out!
thank you for the video
@@racetolive. Thank you for watching!
You guys are tempting me to try that on my ‘10 Outback with 6-speed manual transmission. It lacks a hand brake and I don’t see you using one either.
No handbrake used here. We are using inertia to initiate a drift.
Outback would probably be more exciting due to the higher cog
Careful - I might run higher pressures to avoid rolling over.
@@Kaiser-ks3yq I’m more afraid of coming home to an angry wife if I wrecked the car.
try it in the snow if you can - it's almost 100% safe due to lack of friction (and you can do it with slower speed)
alternatively - gravel or dirt road, but it will not be somewhat taxing on the car in this case
Enjoying the wrx series so far
Loving the wrx videos
Excellent demonstration and explanation.
This is such a 🔥series, y'all are killin' it!
so cool it's a regular wrx! had no idea it was even possible these cars could do that
Incredible series from Team O!!!!
I want to go and learn from you guys one day!!
Subaru should sponsor you lol. This could help sell more WRXs 😂
Just shows what the car is capable of
Simple and short lesson but effective.
Cant wait to try this on my Subaru Exiga GT 😊
So much fun
So much fun
Keep it coming!
Great guys!! Nice series! 💪💪
This exercise is with or without ABS?
Lightning McQueen should watch this video!!! lol
1:58 learned it in 15 seconds
Hey the bald guy is back, nice.
I wish I had a place to practice this.
Only thing I can do is try it on snow at slow speed and pray not to crash.
@Teamoneilrally just wondering, is this possible with CVTs? or just on MTs?
It's deff better in a manual but as they stated multiple times your not using power or the drivetrain it's all about upsetting the car and using inertia. This could probably be done in a fwd 150hp civic if the driver has the skills to pull it off
Sign me up for team O’Neill gymkhana school!
When left foot braking
If i keep foot on the gas go right brake go left and lift off both gas and brake will it corner even sharper
In theory
Its like combining lift off oversteer with the scandi flick?
Ken was also performing his JimConnor stuffs in some sort of staged rally car with anywhere between 500 and 1500 AWHP, so doing these Flick drifts is mucho easier to pull off
You are tempting me to try this with my Golf R, but I'll pass. Instead, I'll wait till I can pratice on one of your car first ahahah and only try with my car once I've learned with your😅.
yeah i could do that
pretty bad ass
The question I have is, is it faster? What's faster for that particular turn, traditional line or pendulum.
now，I have the car, and I need a open ground to do all those things without police coming and chase me out
KEN BLOCK 🧊
what drivetrain is best for "turning right to go left?"
This was awd
I did this accidentally trying to avoid a moose. Pro tip disconnect a wheel speed sensor so active stability management doesn't kick in
This video wasn't planned, I know y'all made it because my comment in the last video
note to self don't buy a mustang and try this in an empty lot
What could go wrong, right?
@@Luka-gf1uv a lil youtube fame for the wrong reasons and starring in a mustang compilation
If I’m not mistaken, you should be able to heel-toe downshift this, which should basically make it easier, then all you need to worry about is where you’re steering the car.
Doesn’t heel toe shift eliminate the engine braking? How does it make it easier?
@@RandomGamer-yo3tn no, it doesn’t. It would make shifting into the lower gear smoother and you could get into the lower gear sooner basically, rather than in the middle/towards the end of your turn. Because of this, you should be able to come in hotter/brake later.
I’ve done it with my FWD Scirocco on an Autocross course. However, I’m not technically a professional at drifting, so I would like to confirm with the experts.
@@soundhead18 ohh ok, I’ll look into it further so I can understand better. Thanks for explaining
Nani!?! Kansei Dorifto!?!
Expand the radius. 2nd is easier to grab than first.
I think calling it a “scandi” might be easier than saying “pendulums”
This is a great channel. I apply some of this stuff when sim racing...
we call it a Scandi in jamaica lol
How fast do you need to go?
How wide are your tires? How grippy are your tires? How grippy is the road surface? What's your weight distribution ratio?
See how fast you can go without drifting, then take 10-15 mph off and try drifting at that, working your way up to something closer to 5mph under, but on paved roads drifting is slower, so if you can do it at 35mph without drifting, if you entered at 35 trying to drift you likely wouldn't make it (at least not on the same line, probably wouldn't crash, just end up wide.)
let's see it in front wheel drive no hand brake🤔
That's literally day 1 in the Fiestas at the school
🫂
Find someone who’s less proficient. He learned too fast for the audience to learn alongside. No mistakes to really learn from.
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It's a good thing it's a video, and TH-cam encourages unlimited rewatches.
If only there was a school you can go to learn and practice this type of thing. 🤔
Download some rally cars and rally stages in Assetto Corsa and go at it
@@lulkLogan Nah, Richard Burns Rally is the way to go. Assetto is only good for asphalt racing.