WHY YOU SHOULD NOT INITIATE INTO SANTERIA , VODOU, PALO , AKHAN , CANDOMBLE - [VOODOO PRIEST MAN]
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- The reason why you should not initiate into Santeria , Palo , Vodou , Candomble , Akhan .
I’m going through different reasons why you should insert before you decide to get initiated or even initiate into an African traditional religion.
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These cultures are from black ancestors, and with that being said Spanish isn't the original language for these cultures but notice how although Spanish language isn't the original language and the spirits accepts the rituals in Spanish. My point is whatever language you speak pray in that language and do your rituals in that language. If you truly connect with the spirits they will show you what ritual to do. The Santos are negro not Blanca. I'm a black Hispanic who was raised by his black mom. I speak very little Spanish and the spirits answer all my prayers and protect me.
Yea it was made in the Caribbean as a Puerto Rican we are part European African and Taino but they killed almost all of the Taino there so that’s why it works in Spanish and African or creole English cause like palero is speaking to dead ancestors or just the dead
Also if your bloodline has ties so no matter what voodoo came from Africa 1st and Haitian slaves that originated from Africa took it with them my ancestors are from Barbados they were made to come over here and made to go into Christianity I didn’t stay in that it wasn’t the path I was made to stay on.
A Babalawo once stated best, "Self discovery is more important than initiation." First discover yourself, your ancestry, family heritage, do first a mesa, etc, before getting into a particular religion or religious practice. There is a lot of misinformation out there so self discovery and knowing ones heritage and practices are first before diving into something that can dis-aline itself from that. These practices run deep in the family to just ignore them because of what people say. It is just more religious censorship and bias. Thank you for the video and education.
PS: It is funny how Vodun, Hodun, Santeria, Palo, and all these African based religions seem to be okay with co-existing and even mixing other religions into their own without any bias or hate. For example: In Cuba, you will see Eshu chilling outside eating his Red Palm Oil with roasted corn, while inside chilling in the living room with an Ancestor Altar with apples around a statue of St. Barabara, in a bedroom St. Larzarus, and in the doorway to the gardens Eleggua with Santa Muerte nearby. That is the norm... seeing African-MesoAmerican religions and Catholicism co-existing, and if you pay even closer attention you'll pick up a Buddha, a Brahma figure or any Asian deity here and there, so some Asian religions in these houses too. For us, it is the norm, not a rule or exception, just a fact of life. We are okay and embrace outsiders wanting to learn more. Americans in the US seem to be the ones obsessed with wanting to keep others away and say certain things are only for these people without first consulting to the creators or original origins about what they think about outsiders wanting to learn about their ways and customs. The Japanese don't get offended when foreigners wear their kimonos... they actually are overjoyed that outsiders love their culture. They consider it a sign of respect. US people are weird at times with their obsession over ownership of religions, cultural customs and practices.
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So glad to see this said.
What??? When you speak of Americans being weird are you speaking about Indigenous Americans? I’m here to let you know that we Indigenous Americans don’t give two shits about who wants to be a baptis or a Christian, we are very welcoming people its in our nature to be this way. The only thing we may have an issue with is others taking what comes from us and trying to make it theirs, like always. All of this magic comes from us to be honest with you. All of the Orisha and warriors look like us, they’re not of pale skin. Its in your nature to down talk or tryN down play us Indigenous Americans..
@@Divignloveobviously not natives. This is more of an issue in the African American community where they’re super sensitive of ATRs
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@@melethnin4714what’s an African American bc that’s not who we are.
Ase Ase Ase!!!! Eye don’t have to be initiated to work with my ancestors. Spirits come to me. I’m not initiated into any religion and my Baba Elegua came to me, Yemoja came to me, YeYeO came to me and so on and so forth. If your chosen your chosen . Eye love that you touched on this.
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That because you were already initiated before birth
We black people have been decimated by childhood trauma. Trauma destroys/confuses destiny. Trauma makes one like you search for why and how things work. And our fathers who are responsible for giving us game have been removed. Anyone who laughs or doesn't want us in the sciences we created will receive their own ashe. No culture had the science before we taught them, ashe. Eat well & live e long 🙏
We give it to them and the culture Vultures run with it like its there! But hate on the people who the African Relegions come from! Make it make sense!
Preach!
You gave nothing, you hold onto this ancestor nonsense like you created and grew certain parts of the culture.
Only western people hold this narrative that they own something they had nothing to do with.
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The crazy 😜 thing is that these different people will get mad 😡 at black Americans for wanting to practice a certain spirituality and say that we shouldn’t be practicing it because we’re not from the culture which is fine but keep that same energy 🔋 because white folks practice it all the time and don’t nobody say nothing about it and they practice it in their face not in hiding but that’s a conversation nobody wants to speak about ✌️✌️✌️✌️
This right here is priceless . I’m sick and tired of any melanated people being discriminated period
Yeap is like they want to jack everything from us!
Our ANCESTORS don't work outside of the BLOODLINE..wight folks WISH they could work with them
We give it to them and the culture Vultures run with it like its there! But hate on the people who the African Relegions come from! Make it make sense!
But we are also talking about Africans not approving as well
I’m glad someone finally said this 💯🐉
Thank u
Good logic but i do disagree.My godfather is mostly Spanish or santero and palero but he told me when initiated me,He was happy that i can bring In English speaking people and gave me nothing but English books and let me know some of the best knowledge is in English and he was happy to be able to guide me with my own god children in the English world because it is not his first language
Agree, my godfather was of Cuban descent & taught me the religion well & went by the book.the problem with people today is that they want to jump right in without investigating or getting to know their godparent before getting initiated.
I'm happy practicing on my own. After my experience with being raised in a cult, Spirit comes to me personally. I'm forever learning, but I doubt I'll ever get initiated into anything else.
ETA: I'm also a Conjure Woman (Hoodoo), I just subscribed. I agree with everything you said in this video.
I practice Hoodoo as well. It’s in my family, and I don’t have to spend money and get initiated. I would recommend any African American looking into ATR’s to first practice Hoodoo. People sleep on Hoodoo. Sometimes that’s all your need!
@@queenofthecrossroads2613 exactly 💯
@CeeThecatmomDo u think it’s not good to get initiated? I once heard it’s good to get initiated before practicing.
@CeeThecatmom ok thank you so much. Someone had said that u should get initiated before practicing
@@queenofthecrossroads2613I read something somebody said about Black Americans that was so derogatory by a Haitian and how they are closer to Africa than we are and how much stronger than we are and just like in the video he said, not all Haitians are built for Vodou or about that life. They must've forgot that boat from West and Central Africa came to the US too and Hoodoo is rooted in Kongo Spirituality which the spirits there are very aggressive and swift, Obeah, indigenous practices, and Vodun as well. They underestimate our power, we're still here strong, fought, and did not leave what we built. 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
I’m American I meet this guy at work apparently he was a high priest in Santeria. He keep pointing to me say ogun ogun…. I was wearing green and black and it seemed I always did I even had a random green and black bead but not the same as his but the kind we wear in the raves. He invited me to his house for his initiation birth day and took me in his shrine room and ask me too make a wish to elegga if I wanted can you tell me about this at all I kind of got spooked lol but he was a awesomely nice guy use to give me rides even offered me a place to live when I broke up with my girl. So I never worried much about it
Not true the orishas/ santos just like God understand and speak all languages.we must all crawl before we walk. Learn the religion, ask questions before joining a house to avoid these lissues .there are individuals who are from other cultures that join Christian religions that don’t speak English or understand the English language well.so what’s your take on that.faith is what (you )believe.
Prejudice is real. You are giving really good advice. The Spirits choose the person, I work in my ancestral spirituality
The thing is all of these African traditions come from one source they are all interpretations of one path or religion. So you can’t make a wrong decision, just do what works for you
I agree to an extent, first and foremost yes you must learn tradition to be part of a culture true, but we must learn our own backgrounds before jumping to cultures of interest, I am Puerto Rican and I had to learn the white table and the spirits that come along with my spiritual gang as well as my ancestoral lineage within that you find your "nitch", now the fact that you said you are not a child of a certain Orisha because "It" didn't tell you or you didn't dream with "it" is not how that goes, there's levels to this, we don't choose we are chosen, we go by a system like every culture there's a system! Voodoo, Palo and Spiritualism lean to the eggun / muerto side Orisha is totally different grounds a much higher ground that eggun don't step on, u cannot mix the 2 because are different and don't function the same. As we grow Orisha manifest within us not come out of the blue just because, it our guardian angel from birth be we of any culture or race, Orisha is universal!
can we be serious about how much cultural and spiritual technology was lost in Hoodoo due to how brutal the Protestants suppressed their slaves or are we gonna keep ignoring the elephant in the room? Black Americans on average are traumatized by Christianity. For good reason the Christ was the hammer the oppressors hit us with so many of us have issues with how deeply tied hoodoo is with christianity. ALONG with hoodoo having an extemely diffetent relationship with the Creator. Which I would tbh say takes a REAL spiritualist to conceptualized with zero outside sources besides hoodoo. Humans have an innate need to search out and understand the divine. Orisha gives a STRONG mediator that I have not seen in hoodoo. Along with SO much African culture which belongs to us as black folks…
I come for the education not for anything else. I know where my practices belong. I, personally, think most of all of us practice a form of animism in each of our own separate cultures & spiritual practices.
Yes you right everyone is not called. My haitian boyfriend don't practice Voodoo and really don't like that I'm into Hoodoo which I was called to
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I was told my ori chose Orisha priestess for me during this lifetime during a divination. I must choose an atr to end up on that path?
It is plenty of Latin people that come to America 🇺🇸 and they get into Hoodoo should they stop 🛑 because that’s not theirs neither 💯💯💯💯
Hoodoo was just not a part of the u it’s States . Hoodoo is a part of the USA and the Caribbean , they just call it different names . They should not stop . The moral of this video is to tell people who don’t agree with others initiating in their practice to go fkkk themselves but also to look into their own ancestry
Wait non black people are being discriminatory towards Black people yet they’re practicing a version of an ATR. Thats wild. I’ve never heard that before but I can’t say it didn’t rub me the wrong way way when I saw ✋🏼✋🏻✋ being initiated and teaching ATR’s but that’s not my business that seem like something they’ll have to answer for especially if they’re working with ✋🏽✋🏾✋🏿 deities.
Thank Yu ! For This Information Cause This Exactly How I Feel I Talk To The Spirits That Come To Me In Dreams
Seems very scammy to meeeeeee 🤭🤭🤭🤭 you don’t have to be initiated to have a spiritual practice or to be legitimately apart of a practice. 🤦🏽♀️
Big factss you say the truth gangg 💯
Indeed
I wouldn’t join either….But Santeria is based out of Africa. Yoruba and Catholicism mixed together.
I need to watch this mami wata/yemaya been coming to me I’m not into IFA but I know lady she said it’s time for divination you ready yes I don’t mind but after I’m still not trying to do intitation.
Yes, it is so important to connect with first your ancestors, your Egungun. Tus Antepasados, a tus Muertos. "Make it make sense." Spirit is often the best teacher, and those spirits are of you, connect with them.
I just subscribed. I need know what to do. I'm Jamaica 🇯🇲
First and foremost take a deep breathe and get at least 2 basic books on the religions, side bar I know Zionism is big in the Jamaican culture; do your basic research first. Spend alone time in prayer and ask your spirit guide(s) to guide you and protect your footsteps as you embark on this journey, as they are very very instrumental in your journey. Get a consult from a reputable person, however, don't get yourself caught up in readings after readings after readings cause then you'll be pulled into that perpetual rabbit hole despair and confusion. Take your time on this journey, there is a process and for you to truly enjoy it you must find the right people to guide and align youself with...unfortunately there's alot of charlatans in the ATR's which can leave a bad taste in your mouth or completely discouraged totally; many of us in the community have experienced it, however, there many good persons out here that truly care and want to assist others on there journey...I hope that help...be well and enjoy the journey and process...It Takes Time.
@@dianenelson5179 Thank you! I looked up Zionism and I only see it talking about Jews.
Yeah…I guess so, I’m aware of it because i have a Oba in the religion whom is Jamaican and his heavily involved in Zionism…and I’ve been exposed to it as well; it’s very powerful if you find the right person.
@@dianenelson5179 How can I find out more about it?
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You articulated this very well with the thoughts and me contemplating Palo Mayombe because it is supoosed to be the cousin of Hoodoo, but there's little to no representation of the people who created it which are ny ancestors and their belief system does not align with authentic Kongo spirituality. Also like you said I would be kissing the ass of people who appropriated these ATR and belief systems and made it their own. I dont take say Santa Muerte and culturally appropriate it. You hit all the points because Kongo Spirituality brought to the Americas has little to do with Europeanized Spanish Diaspora, yet they speak French in countries od where my ancestors came from colonization of their countries. Great video!
In the name lf Jesus, every demon is in fear if you speak his name
I just subscribed...ready to learn more.
But the slaves brought those religions to those places... cuba, the islands anf South America..... and other places.... so what ur saying is partly right... but nahh... because if ur black in America... come on Man ... descendants of slaves.... who know not WHO THEY ARE... come on man!!!
Sounds like your discouraging people from following there calling. If a person is following there head . Let them . If they want it , they will learn the language. I speak 🗣️ as a priestess. Everything is a learning process in ANY religion. You mentioning Ashe being a crucial part of communication with nature. I respect your opinion because we are all entitled to it. However you are talking about way tooo many religions negatively and it’s not fair to those who really want to be a part of A religion
So what do I suppose to practice then? I don’t like Christianity and wanted to get initiated in regla de ocha but since I’m not Cuban then I shouldn’t? 😔
Get a consulta if you are so called. Don't listen to people on the internet. Follow your internal compass.
Depending where you reside .... there are mixed and black houses ...these traditions "require" you to "study" and do the work; it requires you to use common sense to interview and find elders that you can trust and vibe with...you must spend time with these people and see what they are all about...if it don't feel right move on to the next...take your time, this is a large investment in time and money...some people are ment to be fully initiated and some are just ment to be loosely associated and get serviced from time to time.
If your parents don't want to teach you because they feel it's evil then you are discouraged. Families split and they try hard to separate their offspring from certain aspects of specific religions.
I am white but received elekes and guerros from my madrina, she is cuban.. never once did I try to white wash the practices
Prejudice is everywhere.we must learn to focus on our journey.
I know, many non European people who follow the way of Odin, it's a calling to them, and if someone doesn't like that, then they need too take it up with Odin, me I'm initiated into santaria, I was drawn too it, and thru divination Ochosi & Obatala, gave me the ok too initiate. And I also honor the Norse energies, but never mix the two,but I have noticed alot of similarities, between the two. But it's who the energies pick and who decides to answer the call🕺🏾
Makes perfect sense
Yes...thats me they showed me mines for years lol but thats why i let go of the false babas and godmothers cause esu made sure to bring me back go day one...
I have question im from india 🇮🇳 can i follow african sprituality these works in india
u have spirits yes, u can work them yes. but in all life, there are levels to reach, doors to walk through. thats really means being choosen or born for the steps.
What if we are not initiated but have lineage from some Orixás and have a Pai de Santo help affirm our orixás to help protect, strengthen ourselves and our abilities to work with adverse forces?
hello friend. how are you these days? have you been initiated by yourself anywhere? What's your path anyway?
I would like to work with elegua and was kinda of worried because I was told i had to be cuban and get initiated.
I knew this was a factor. Those that won't want you there
The Holy Spirit is my tutor!
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU..... WELL SAID
Speak!
Great video
thats my friendee 👊🏾 good advice
So true
Amen he said it best
I AGREE 💯!!!
Facts 🖤🤞🏾
Well said 👏🏼
This is a good message!!
That could be dangerous bc if you arent initiated and dont have the knowledgable or know how to tap into their spirit safely/responsibly…. Could be disasterous for that person! And ive heard that from numerous tatas abd yayas! So dont promoting non initiates to do what they want is reckless advice and is reckless behavior. Please choose your words and ideas wisely and cautiously…. Peoples lives are at stake.
Hoodoo and Santeria don’t benefit the Haitian or Cuban people. Who in their right mind would be interested?
I follow myself
He called the Baphomet on you guys.
Right from the start.
Too bad for them I took care of that already.
Turn to Jesus Chris he is the way the truth and the life
Turn to Jesus Christ before its too late and he will forgive you for anything that you have done because he truly loves you and that' why he will also never lie to you like demonic spirits because he is holy beyond your imaginations