I had a 48 AC to clear land-mow-and plow. Couldn’t get parts so the water pump dripped and the main seal leaked like a battleship!!😀The generator wouldn’t gen and the carburetor wouldn’t carb but she would run all day with no complaints!! It was a total loss magneta ignition. Charge the battery overnight!!😑 PS: I saw a video of a 283 V8 running on one bank of cylinders!!😮 (For demonstration purposes only!!) NO pistons in one side!!🤔 You guys have a LOT of patience!!👏🏻👏🏻
You should have drain the oil in that one that was running so that you could get all the crap out of the oil pan especially if it might have water in it
@@ludicrous7044 Wow, how cool!! I had a A also. Loved that machine so much. The smell, the sound, everything about it. Well actually the one thing I didn't like is that it didn't have a 3 point. I forget what year it was but it was a hand crank with no starter so probably an earlier model than yours. The carb got plugged up on it really bad so the old man down the street who knew tractors like the back of his hand got a sock, a rubber band and an old gas tank off of a lawnmower. He took off the carb and rubber banded the sock instead then bailing wired the gas tank on top of the shroud and ran the hose to drip onto the sock. I never would have believed it if I hadn't seen it myself but it ran BETTER that way than with the crappy old carb!! We slung a blade under it halfway between front tires and back and turned it into a mini road grader. It worked amazingly well and we maintained our road and our neighbors road with it for years. Man, those were good times.
Guys, as I watched this video I so wish that I could have picked up the phone and called you. I spent most of my childhood and half of my adult life working on some of those old A/C s. My granddad had one and I had that same model B and a D-10 also. Those are some tough old engines. So proud that you kept working on it till you got them both runnng. May God Continue to Richly Bless You and Yours Forever.
I'm 71 and have been around AC's most of my life, don't worry about that crack because they all do just put a dab of permatex in it when you put it back together, I always had better luck prying on the flywheel
U know what bro U have an AWESOME Father I mean as an older guy myself u just don’t see fathers like that anymore so you make sure you tell your Dad you Live him because as God is my witness he is truly one of the great ones and as a Black Male I take my hat off to him he sure as heck has ALL MY RESPECT and that’s for sure!!
But what does being Black have to do with anything? When I give someone a compliment, I don't include "as a White Male". If I did you'd probably be calling me a white racist bastard.
You guys will tackle anything and come out on top. Most people would give up 1/4 way through what you take on. Love your never quit work ethic and that just shows what one can accomplish if one never gives up or gives in to an obstacle. God bless.
Outstanding video, you fought it every step of the way. Excellent camera work to go with your knowledge of getting it running and not giving up. Your family just works so well together.
Neat tractor(s). I have a '51 A-C B that was my Dad's. Cylinders 2 and 3 rusted from sitting in the humid basement of a barn. I was able to free them up with Evaporust and never took the pistons out. That was about 4 years ago and use it regularly now. It still runs great with decent compression and doesn't burn oil.
Growing up in a very rural part of south Milwaukee County, near West Allis where Allis Chalmers were made I found this to be very interesting. my growing up was also in the farm tractor business with my dad. We sold & serviced Massey Ferguson & Oliver tractors but had LOTS of customers who had Allis tractors as well. This twin engine model B would be a real hoot to see how it was designed & put together.
Tractors needed more power those days I saw other Tractors put together also. I pulled my Dad on his tractor with a chain and an old tire so he could plow the pasture I
You bought 2 Cool Looking Tractors ! Both Double Engines are now running - thats sooooo Great indeed - You done a Brilliant Job - well done indeed ! You not only Rescued it - You made it Run and Run it does - both Engine ! Man - we loved this long Video very much and again - Congrats ! Many Cheers from us in Australia
Gotta love the "We will make it do something" attitude. The exhaust flapper is missing from the stuck side, probably got water in the cylinders. Each steering wheel for each front wheel would be a lesson in cooperation for sure.
Nice job guys I remember seeing years ago a old timer with a Allis Chalmers where he used the front piston as a air pump for blowing down barns before he would spray white wash on the old barn beams. That tractor he had was setup with a stck welder also. Now I can see how this was possible. Keep up the great videos
That second engine was very solidly seized up, perseverance paid off. Now you have a 7 cylinder, two engine unique tractor. Great camera work. New subscriber from New Zealand.
I love seeing you guys work on stuff like this been following the channel a couple years now just never commented. Nice to see you growing strong! Keep going boys
I wasn’t sure if I would be interested in an old tractor, but I again couldn’t stop watching the whole video. This was a true test of your will or the tractor and once again the family won. It was so interesting to watch and Lance you talk things through with your Dad so understanding what’s going on is easy for your fans. Great camera work and God was with you as always. You guys never give up. Loved it.
To seeing this video, giving me a huge grin the whole time. I would love to see Don's whole collection and hear his old stories. And I really appreciate all the honest work, you put into your projects. The tought that even the worsest things could be fixed, as you showing all the time, blesses my heart and giving me strength and faith. God bless you guys
Afternoon boys, In high school my wood shop teacher had a 36 plymouth that ran on 5 cyl. He turnned down a hard wood plug the put brass shim stock around it and drove it in. Ran that way 30 yrs. Really enjoy your channel, glad you got iy goin.
What a neat tractor. I can’t believe you got that second engine going. My grandpa was a blacksmith and I remember him hammering a lot, but no more than you did on that engine. Way to go!
WHOA!!! That bus reminds me of the one from the James Bond movie: Live and Let Die... You guys are going the distance to get that engine running !!!! AND YOU DID !!!! I DO see the flapper is missing on the right engine exhaust.... AMERICAN DEDICATION !!! GREAT JOB !!!!!!
IIRC, the 'James Bond' bus was an AEC RT type (which predated the Routemaster). It would probably have been built in north London for London Transport and then sold on. By contrast the Bristol Lowdekka was produced by the Bristol company, which was an 'independent' in contrast to the London Transport contractors. The Lowdekka version was produced for routes with low bridges; in some cases the aisle on the upper deck was offset to one side, stepped down from the rest of the floor. For the purpose of the film, the roof was cut off and then refitted so that the bridge would decapitate the bus in a suitably dramatic fashion. It is still not uncommon for a similar thing to happen, although not intended!
According to Google the bus was operated by Hampshire and Dorset Motor Services. I am interested to know how easily the bus can be used on American roads - many years ago I saw a TV report that said New York City had banned them because the overhead traffic lights were too low. We have similar lights in the UK, more often on fast rural roads to give the drivers more warning, but they are high enough for double deckers to pass under.
The best thing is hearing you praise God! He gets the glory! That is a pretty neat outfit, reminds me of the late Harry Lee up here in Indiana would somehow bolt 3 Farmall F20s together. Not sure where all his collection went. It's typical to find Allis tractor blocks cracked between the cylinders. As long as you get a good seal between the sleeve, head gasket, and head, it works fine in most cases. I bought a '36 Allis WC with a 2 row mounted corn picker on it out of a salvage yard about 2000, 2001 or so for 850$. It had a miss, so I pulled the head and had it redone, two cylinders had a crack between them. It has ran like a top ever since. I took it to shows and picked corn with it!
There is nothing better than seeing rare and unique treasures like this be saved and up and ready to do what they were made to do ..great vid godless and stay ⁴safe
My uncle took one of these B Allis tractors and reversed the gears, added hydraulic controlled steering, attached a boom and made a rear drive forklift out of it! These old tractors are hard to kill and hard to beat as you found out making this video. His is like the first one you worked on, easy and fast to start, and always reliable! I would like to see you guys start that WC Allis! I was bitten by the classic car bug and also caught classic tractor fever! Thanks for what you guys do, and keep up the good work!
Like you'r videos a lot. Keep up the good work. I owned a vw beetle that had one main bearing ceased up while on holiday. I took that one piston with con rod and push rod's out and wrapped a rubber tube around the crank shaft with a clamp to close up the oil port on that piston and drove 350 km back home with no problems at all except for a little vibration.
21:00 If you can start the left one then it should be able to turn the right one over. 39:20 By the it drags the right wheel, the right donk powers the right wheel and the left powers the left and the diff equalises the two. 57:55 This is you drop the block in the old electrolysis bath! 1:21:54 Fill those bores with jungle juice and knock off for the day. End, Perseverance wins the day.
This one is a classic, seeing you guys dig in and not give up is a good testimony to hard work and faith. Keep it up! And thanks for the great video work!
Well, y'all hooked me some time ago on working on old cars - I'm still working on the '57 CJ-5 I got back in January - your episode on the CJ-3 helped me there. Now here you are on an A-C tractor. Before I discovered Turning Rust, I was restoring a '51 Farmall Cub and a '51 Farmall H, so this is like old home week! Awesome! I love it. I think I'm going to have to have one of your T-shirts!
Nice work guys! Good to see the tractor (or tractors?) up and running again! Just make sure to cover the exhaust on the engine that was seized, either with an official rain cap, or a metal can in a pinch.
One of the best parts of your channel is that you guys do not give easily. Stuck engines chase you, and I can see it is very hard, but boy it makes for some great videos. Nice work!
@@markcorbiere3314 put a ballast resistor for an 85 dodge v8 on it, or get an internally ballasted coil. A magneto does not see battery voltage, it is self contained.
@@markcorbiere3314 The person doing the conversion to 12v was likely from the era when they knew enough to either install a 12 v coil or more likely a ballast resistor and a crank circuit bypass for easier starting. The magneto will have no connection to the battery electrical system so it won't be harmed. (it just has a grounding post to stop spark for shut down)
You and your dad did an amazing job getting that tractor running Many blessings to your family and much love from Portland Indiana have a blessed week till next time
Everything about that beastie looks strange but the two seats and steering wheels just look so odd. Watching the two of you, side by side on a tractor, and both "driving" brought a smile to my face. Hope to see more of these tractors, once you figure out how they work. I've got a funny feeling there more be farther headaches before you're done though. It would help if you even knew how they're 𝒎𝒆𝒂𝒏𝒕 to work.😂👍
Can't believe I watched the whole thing as I was rooting the whole time!, even my wife looked at me a few times wondering what was going on! Great job folks!
Great work guys that's wicked cool!! You always do the coolest stuff !! Look forward to seeing it with all 4 pistons in engine 2 and it running sweet 😁
Well that just way too cool!! Please do an update with the new piston and the engine running on all four. Also do you know who manufactured those engines? I don’t know if Allis Chalmers built their own engines or not!! You would think that it wouldn’t be possible for both transmissions to work at the same time unless each was only connected to one wheel. In which case you ought to be able to get a lot more power out of that double tractor than a single.
When they were trying to bump start them, every time he dropped the clutch for the right engine, the right rear wheel skidded. Looks like each engine drives one rear wheel.
Sitting in my lounge in Hereford, UK I am thoroughly enjoying the video of you two trying to get this extraordinary tractor going! I have never been to USA, and if it did become possible I would be thrilled to meet you both, and see your town rodeo! Keep the videos coming!
Incredible work. One of the more entertaining revivals. You had the extremes in one machine, the first engine fired right up, the second was a nightmare, but you won in the end. Great work.
I can't even begin to say how darn cool that was to watch, especially since I own a "B" model that has been in the family since I was about 7 years old...wow that was 58 years ago. I guess I need to get it off the dollies it's sitting on and get it running again. Thanks for the video and the effort you and your dad put into it.
I found old pics online of that twin engine Allis Chalmers. It looked like it was new, and had fresh paint job on it. I bet if you buffed and polished that paint, it would come back good as new again.
If you removed the caps from all the connecting rods so you could turn the crankshaft out of the way, you might have found it easier to put a jack between the big end of the rod on the stuck piston and the floor then tried to push the rod up out of the bore from below.
Once the caps are off, tapping on the bottom of the sleeve will release the piston and sleeve from the block, it will lift right out... the sleeve just sits in the block, with an O-ring at the bottom.
These were originally 6v, Pos. ground. This looks like it was converted to 12v, Neg. ground. I spins so fast because people generally just use the 6v starter without changing it which works fine as long as the engine doesn't need a lot of cranking to start.
Nice to have met you folks today at Canton. Puts a real face with people who you have only seen on TH-cam. People just as nice and kind in person as they are on their show. Keep up the great work!! Never realized Wyatt, you were such a short fellow. Lol….
It was a pleasure to meet you. We always enjoy meeting our fans and hearing about your projects and/or experiences. And I get a lot of comments about how much taller I am in person lol
Y’all boys put in a lot more into that than I would have. Ida cut the top of the motor off and mounted a cooler on top. Got to have a place for a beer after that much work 😃
If that cylinder had bent push rods to begin with you would expect the valves to have been closed and if that were so water should not have got into the combustion chamber and you would have a bit of a mystery on your hands.
I would love to commend you for the curtesy you showed with the gentleman you bought the tractors from!!! You are an extremely rare person for your age group. If you were my son i too would be very proud of you! Please don’t loose that trait!!!
I am a retired mechanic in the UK. I have never had a piston thar seized ever. Guys I thought you where both going to have heart attacks. I felt tired just watching you. great video though. Respect.
Good work guys!! I really enjoyed this, thanks for posting. As a possible interesting aside for what it's worth... We had an old generator that was frozen up really bad. After doing what you guys did, pounding on the cylinders until we were blue in the face and we gave up, my cousin put Marvel Mystery Oil in the cylinders and then just covered them with a tarp (which the Marvel ate up so don't do that, set the head back on it). We got back to it maybe 9 or 10 months later and it freed right up with no trouble at all. I don't know how long it would take but less than 10 months for sure. My cousin said that he had done it before and freed up a locked up engine on an old Willy's jeep in just a month.
I'll tell you what though - I'm just watching you load them up and that 2nd one is cool as beans That is one nice looking tractor! Those orange spoked wheels and that cool gas tank, frame and ORANGE~~!
I would praise you both for not giving up on the three pot wonder I did not believe I was going to see it running but you proved me wrong Well done 🙏🙏😍😍👍👍
That's easily the most stuck piston I've ever seen or even heard of. The whole time i was watching you guys banging on that forward most piston head, I was thinking to myself, "why aren't they grabbing a bottle jack, some square tubing, some chains, and use some good ol' hydraulic power to push that thing out?". Either way, yall did awesome to get a 4 cylinder running with a completely missing piston. Well done.
This was fun to watch I come by y’all shop regularly hauling chickens I’m from mount pleasant you guys did a great job I remember my uncle taking one like that a farm all that was locked up he got it running
In 1966 I bought an old ford Jailbar with a flathead V8 engine that had several problems, Cracks in the block, burnt valves. Having no money I decided to get it going as best I could with help from my dad we removed all the valves from 5 of the cylinders, blocked off the inlet ports, Sealed the valve guides and reassembled it. Ran it for 18 years on only 3 of the 8 cylinders. Spark plugs were left in place but no plug leads connected. Also ran it solely on diesel. Hard to start on a frosty morning and of course sluggish. Top speed was 55 mph (88kph) got 13 miles to the gallon.
The bent push rod happened before you guys got it. Crank needed to move to bend it. You probably already figured that out though. Nice find, have seen pictures of something like this but thought it was photoshopped. Like see father/son working together on projects. Brings back memories of my earlier years with my dad.
I like old tractors so naturally your video got my attention. I was pleasantly surprised to find out you guys are in Bogata, Texas - a place I visited many times early in my working career back in the 1980s. It’s a nice little town and I have many fond memories and made a few friends along the way. Your Siamese Allis Chalmers is quite a head turner but it isn’t the first time I’ve seen something like it. I saw a two Farmall tractors put together on an episode of Classic Tractor Fever. The guy that owned it did all the work himself and it was quite impressive engineering.
1:11:22 I was just saying bye to pops knuckles when he readjusted his grip. Good thing because that block is sharp as a razor blade I'm sure, nice save
Hello Sir...I'm a Micronesian from the island of Kosrae...and I watched some of your videos on restoring cars and rescuing vehicles...I enjoyed the fact that you work with your son or your dad to put this videos together. It's enjoyable and family friendly. Mechanics are what we don't have here....anyways...good luck on your endeavors.
Wow you guys really working on the very old pass tractors machines ,l think thius can gives lots of parts budy see them back on track ,like your jobs .the old tracks come to lives.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😎😜😜😜
You guys are amazing. You don't see too many videos of father and son working side by side and the good lord, seen y'all struggling and he's like it mine turn
I've heard stories of my grandfather having a 6 cylinder with some busted pistons and he tore it apart and removed 3 of them and ran it or 3 cylinders and he used it on a home made tractor he beilt.
Great find, great video! It doesn't matter if the block is cracked in between the cylinders on this one guys. As You Both can tell, the block has wet sleeves. Pull the right engine, get it sleeved, put some new pistons, rings and bearing in it and run the hell out of it. She's got lots of life left in her for show-boating...
As an old farmer rancher guy I have owned my fair share of tractors and still do. I have even had the AC in the past that had a side scythe that I got working. Bought it for 300, sold it for 3600. That was a few years ago. I have NEVER seen an AC like that. Treasure it.
We collected over 600 antique tractors, as old as 1907 models, and freed up seized engines on hundreds of them since the 1960's. Hammering on a piston at TDC is only going to bend rods, even on a free turning motor. Also, hammering on a piston that is really seized almost always cracks piston ring lands (even with the rod removed). What ALWAYS works is: - Pull plugs/injectors (gas/diesel or kerosene) - stuck out any water - fill cylinders with a mix of ATF/diesel or a stronger rust busting chemical if you want it to free up faster - let it sit for potentially months, topping up ATF/diesel and regularly checking if it will turn using a 18" to 30" bar (no more unless it is a huge Minneapolis-Moline or similar). Eventually it will free up and we managed to get hundreds of engines freed up and running. Compression is often down by up to ~30% on one of two cylinders, especially initially, and they often burn oil or sometimes are found to have cracked blocks (almost always due to past freezing with water in coolant), but they always ran well enough to drive around a fairground show and well enough to do demo light field work. Also if we did decide to eventually rebuild an engine, having straight rods makes the job much easier. Watching you guys hammering away and trying to force a seized motor to turn was painful. I'm sure that motor could have been freed up and run without bending any rods nor destroying any pistons if you just took your time and did it right.
I’ve seen a few of these tractors that worked in the fields. Back when tractors started to get bigger they were trying everything under the sun to get more power. This is one of the ways. They would put duals on them because both engines still run and they needed the extra traction, but in the end they still couldn’t compete with the 4WD tractors.
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I had a 48 AC to clear land-mow-and plow.
Couldn’t get parts so the water pump dripped and the main seal leaked like a battleship!!😀The generator wouldn’t gen and the carburetor wouldn’t carb but she would run all day with no complaints!!
It was a total loss magneta ignition.
Charge the battery overnight!!😑
PS: I saw a video of a 283 V8 running on one bank of cylinders!!😮
(For demonstration purposes only!!)
NO pistons in one side!!🤔
You guys have a LOT of patience!!👏🏻👏🏻
@@ludicrous7044 you should drain the oil in the one that you had running while it was still hot and see what you got in there for water
You should have drain the oil in that one that was running so that you could get all the crap out of the oil pan especially if it might have water in it
Paul the starter and put a bar on the ring gear that way you could rock it back and forth the ring gear that is
@@ludicrous7044 Wow, how cool!! I had a A also. Loved that machine so much. The smell, the sound, everything about it. Well actually the one thing I didn't like is that it didn't have a 3 point. I forget what year it was but it was a hand crank with no starter so probably an earlier model than yours.
The carb got plugged up on it really bad so the old man down the street who knew tractors like the back of his hand got a sock, a rubber band and an old gas tank off of a lawnmower. He took off the carb and rubber banded the sock instead then bailing wired the gas tank on top of the shroud and ran the hose to drip onto the sock. I never would have believed it if I hadn't seen it myself but it ran BETTER that way than with the crappy old carb!!
We slung a blade under it halfway between front tires and back and turned it into a mini road grader. It worked amazingly well and we maintained our road and our neighbors road with it for years. Man, those were good times.
Guys, as I watched this video I so wish that I could have picked up the phone and called you. I spent most of my childhood and half of my adult life working on some of those old A/C s. My granddad had one and I had that same model B and a D-10 also. Those are some tough old engines. So proud that you kept working on it till you got them both runnng. May God Continue to Richly Bless You and Yours Forever.
I'm 71 and have been around AC's most of my life, don't worry about that crack because they all do just put a dab of permatex in it when you put it back together, I always had better luck prying on the flywheel
U know what bro U have an AWESOME Father I mean as an older guy myself u just don’t see fathers like that anymore so you make sure you tell your Dad you Live him because as God is my witness he is truly one of the great ones and as a Black Male I take my hat off to him he sure as heck has ALL MY RESPECT and that’s for sure!!
And what a good impact he’s making on his sons life. Bravo, we all can try to do better. They live by example
Well said Kevin
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But what does being Black have to do with anything? When I give someone a compliment, I don't include "as a White Male". If I did you'd probably be calling me a white racist bastard.
That camera girl did an awesome job filming. Well done! The guys figured it out too! You’ve got a piece of history!
You guys will tackle anything and come out on top. Most people would give up 1/4 way through what you take on. Love your never quit work ethic and that just shows what one can accomplish if one never gives up or gives in to an obstacle. God bless.
Outstanding video, you fought it every step of the way. Excellent camera work to go with your knowledge of getting it running and not giving up. Your family just works so well together.
I love seeing old farm equipment such as tractors being rescued and brought back to life again. ❤
Started watching, stayed put all the way to the end! Most enjoyable evening I have had in years!
Neat tractor(s). I have a '51 A-C B that was my Dad's. Cylinders 2 and 3 rusted from sitting in the humid basement of a barn. I was able to free them up with Evaporust and never took the pistons out. That was about 4 years ago and use it regularly now. It still runs great with decent compression and doesn't burn oil.
Growing up in a very rural part of south Milwaukee County, near West Allis where Allis Chalmers were made I found this to be very interesting. my growing up was also in the farm tractor business with my dad. We sold & serviced Massey Ferguson & Oliver tractors but had LOTS of customers who had Allis tractors as well. This twin engine model B would be a real hoot to see how it was designed & put together.
Tractors needed more power those days I saw other Tractors put together also. I pulled my Dad on his tractor with a chain and an old tire so he could plow the pasture
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You bought 2 Cool Looking Tractors ! Both Double Engines are now running - thats sooooo Great indeed - You done a Brilliant Job - well done indeed ! You not only Rescued it - You made it Run and Run it does - both Engine ! Man - we loved this long Video very much and again - Congrats ! Many Cheers from us in Australia
Gotta love the "We will make it do something" attitude. The exhaust flapper is missing from the stuck side, probably got water in the cylinders. Each steering wheel for each front wheel would be a lesson in cooperation for sure.
Great camera work and editing as well. Awesome looking tractor . I’ve never seen any other tractors like this one
The amount of respect you gave that gentleman is something you don’t see anymore!
Nice job guys
I remember seeing years ago a old timer with a Allis Chalmers where he used the front piston as a air pump for blowing down barns before he would spray white wash on the old barn beams. That tractor he had was setup with a stck welder also. Now I can see how this was possible. Keep up the great videos
An engine is basically an air pump with
fuel/timed spark/and compression.
That second engine was very solidly seized up, perseverance paid off. Now you have a 7 cylinder, two engine unique tractor. Great camera work. New subscriber from New Zealand.
I love seeing you guys work on stuff like this been following the channel a couple years now just never commented. Nice to see you growing strong! Keep going boys
I wasn’t sure if I would be interested in an old tractor, but I again couldn’t stop watching the whole video. This was a true test of your will or the tractor and once again the family won.
It was so interesting to watch and Lance you talk things through with your Dad so understanding what’s going on is easy for your fans.
Great camera work and God was with you as always.
You guys never give up. Loved it.
Thats justamazing!!!!! Well done,I really don't know how many would have tried that hard. God Bless......
Miracles come in all shapes and sizes. I know because you guys have pulled off more than a few. Awesome video. You guys are the best.
To seeing this video, giving me a huge grin the whole time. I would love to see Don's whole collection and hear his old stories. And I really appreciate all the honest work, you put into your projects.
The tought that even the worsest things could be fixed, as you showing all the time, blesses my heart and giving me strength and faith. God bless you guys
Afternoon boys, In high school my wood shop teacher had a 36 plymouth that ran on 5 cyl. He turnned down a hard wood plug the put brass shim stock around it and drove it in. Ran that way 30 yrs. Really enjoy your channel, glad you got iy goin.
What a neat tractor. I can’t believe you got that second engine going. My grandpa was a blacksmith and I remember him hammering a lot, but no more than you did on that engine. Way to go!
At first, I was like "But they only used a rubber mallet on the head!" then I got to the last third of the video, haha
I love watching you lance and whyatt. You are wonderful people. It's very refreshing to hear people that love God. Bless you and your family ❤️
Outstanding! Never say die...that's what I love about you guys! Keep up the great work! Great camera work too!
Again, your persistence paid off! Great job and video! Thank you all!
WHOA!!! That bus reminds me of the one from the James Bond movie: Live and Let Die...
You guys are going the distance to get that engine running !!!! AND YOU DID !!!! I DO see the flapper is missing on the right engine exhaust....
AMERICAN DEDICATION !!!
GREAT JOB !!!!!!
IIRC, the 'James Bond' bus was an AEC RT type (which predated the Routemaster). It would probably have been built in north London for London Transport and then sold on. By contrast the Bristol Lowdekka was produced by the Bristol company, which was an 'independent' in contrast to the London Transport contractors. The Lowdekka version was produced for routes with low bridges; in some cases the aisle on the upper deck was offset to one side, stepped down from the rest of the floor.
For the purpose of the film, the roof was cut off and then refitted so that the bridge would decapitate the bus in a suitably dramatic fashion. It is still not uncommon for a similar thing to happen, although not intended!
According to Google the bus was operated by Hampshire and Dorset Motor Services. I am interested to know how easily the bus can be used on American roads - many years ago I saw a TV report that said New York City had banned them because the overhead traffic lights were too low. We have similar lights in the UK, more often on fast rural roads to give the drivers more warning, but they are high enough for double deckers to pass under.
You guys are now running the first 7-piston tractor of the world ! Cool
Wow - nice job! Would have never thought that would work ... Loved it!
The best thing is hearing you praise God! He gets the glory! That is a pretty neat outfit, reminds me of the late Harry Lee up here in Indiana would somehow bolt 3 Farmall F20s together. Not sure where all his collection went. It's typical to find Allis tractor blocks cracked between the cylinders. As long as you get a good seal between the sleeve, head gasket, and head, it works fine in most cases. I bought a '36 Allis WC with a 2 row mounted corn picker on it out of a salvage yard about 2000, 2001 or so for 850$. It had a miss, so I pulled the head and had it redone, two cylinders had a crack between them. It has ran like a top ever since. I took it to shows and picked corn with it!
There is nothing better than seeing rare and unique treasures like this be saved and up and ready to do what they were made to do ..great vid godless and stay ⁴safe
My uncle took one of these B Allis tractors and reversed the gears, added hydraulic controlled steering, attached a boom and made a rear drive forklift out of it! These old tractors are hard to kill and hard to beat as you found out making this video. His is like the first one you worked on, easy and fast to start, and always reliable! I would like to see you guys start that WC Allis! I was bitten by the classic car bug and also caught classic tractor fever! Thanks for what you guys do, and keep up the good work!
Like you'r videos a lot. Keep up the good work. I owned a vw beetle that had one main bearing ceased up while on holiday. I took that one piston with con rod and push rod's out and wrapped a rubber tube around the crank shaft with a clamp to close up the oil port on that piston and drove 350 km back home with no problems at all except for a little vibration.
That would make a very cool parade tractor, especially if the drivers were identical twins.
21:00 If you can start the left one then it should be able to turn the right one over.
39:20 By the it drags the right wheel, the right donk powers the right wheel and the left powers the left and the diff equalises the two.
57:55 This is you drop the block in the old electrolysis bath!
1:21:54 Fill those bores with jungle juice and knock off for the day.
End, Perseverance wins the day.
Good sticking with it and not giving up. I always liked the father & son team. Makes me think of my Dad.
This one is a classic, seeing you guys dig in and not give up is a good testimony to hard work and faith. Keep it up! And thanks for the great video work!
persistence pays off...and always help from above! love that. never give up...
Awesome job fellas! Some good camera work too young lady!
Well, y'all hooked me some time ago on working on old cars - I'm still working on the '57 CJ-5 I got back in January - your episode on the CJ-3 helped me there. Now here you are on an A-C tractor. Before I discovered Turning Rust, I was restoring a '51 Farmall Cub and a '51 Farmall H, so this is like old home week! Awesome! I love it. I think I'm going to have to have one of your T-shirts!
Nice work guys! Good to see the tractor (or tractors?) up and running again! Just make sure to cover the exhaust on the engine that was seized, either with an official rain cap, or a metal can in a pinch.
One of the best parts of your channel is that you guys do not give easily. Stuck engines chase you, and I can see it is very hard, but boy it makes for some great videos. Nice work!
I believe the starter is spinning so fast because someone did a 12 volt conversion but the starter is still the original 6 volt.
Definitely a 12v alternator on it
Yes it’s 6 volts you will burn up the coil pack and the mag
@@markcorbiere3314 judging by the alternator, it's been converted to 12v.
@@markcorbiere3314 put a ballast resistor for an 85 dodge v8 on it, or get an internally ballasted coil.
A magneto does not see battery voltage, it is self contained.
@@markcorbiere3314 The person doing the conversion to 12v was likely from the era when they knew enough to either install a 12 v coil or more likely a ballast resistor and a crank circuit bypass for easier starting. The magneto will have no connection to the battery electrical system so it won't be harmed. (it just has a grounding post to stop spark for shut down)
You and your dad did an amazing job getting that tractor running Many blessings to your family and much love from Portland Indiana have a blessed week till next time
Im glad to see both engines running Realy glat to hear that your going to install the 4th piston.
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Awesome project , brought back a lot of memories for me with my father back on the farm . thank you for that .
Everything about that beastie looks strange but the two seats and steering wheels just look so odd. Watching the two of you, side by side on a tractor, and both "driving" brought a smile to my face. Hope to see more of these tractors, once you figure out how they work. I've got a funny feeling there more be farther headaches before you're done though. It would help if you even knew how they're 𝒎𝒆𝒂𝒏𝒕 to work.😂👍
Can't believe I watched the whole thing as I was rooting the whole time!, even my wife looked at me a few times wondering what was going on! Great job folks!
Great work guys that's wicked cool!! You always do the coolest stuff !! Look forward to seeing it with all 4 pistons in engine 2 and it running sweet 😁
Really you're amazing..thank youfir both dad &son ans also for photo makers the both daughters the unseen..thanks fir all..
Well that just way too cool!! Please do an update with the new piston and the engine running on all four. Also do you know who manufactured those engines? I don’t know if Allis Chalmers built their own engines or not!!
You would think that it wouldn’t be possible for both transmissions to work at the same time unless each was only connected to one wheel. In which case you ought to be able to get a lot more power out of that double tractor than a single.
I belive Lei roi Built engines for allis chalmers during the wd wd45 years
Buda, until Allis bought them out
@@WTank109 “Lei Roi”; as in ‘LeeRoy was here’?!?! 🤣🤣
@@whammond511 Not as far as I'm aware lol but my Engine In my wd is Made by Lei roi lol
When they were trying to bump start them, every time he dropped the clutch for the right engine, the right rear wheel skidded. Looks like each engine drives one rear wheel.
Sitting in my lounge in Hereford, UK I am thoroughly enjoying the video of you two trying to get this extraordinary tractor going! I have never been to USA, and if it did become possible I would be thrilled to meet you both, and see your town rodeo! Keep the videos coming!
Incredible work. One of the more entertaining revivals. You had the extremes in one machine, the first engine fired right up, the second was a nightmare, but you won in the end. Great work.
I can't even begin to say how darn cool that was to watch, especially since I own a "B" model that has been in the family since I was about 7 years old...wow that was 58 years ago. I guess I need to get it off the dollies it's sitting on and get it running again. Thanks for the video and the effort you and your dad put into it.
I found old pics online of that twin engine Allis Chalmers. It looked like it was new, and had fresh paint job on it. I bet if you buffed and polished that paint, it would come back good as new again.
most unique tractor I've ever seen, very enjoyable watch fellas, great work and thank you for the content! God bless
If you removed the caps from all the connecting rods so you could turn the crankshaft out of the way, you might have found it easier to put a jack between the big end of the rod on the stuck piston and the floor then tried to push the rod up out of the bore from below.
Right - once the front piston broke loose I would have driven it upward and out of the cylinder so the cylinder could be cleaned
Once the caps are off, tapping on the bottom of the sleeve will release the piston and sleeve from the block, it will lift right out... the sleeve just sits in the block, with an O-ring at the bottom.
Well done!!! It was great to see you stick to your guns and get the old gal running!
These were originally 6v, Pos. ground. This looks like it was converted to 12v, Neg. ground. I spins so fast because people generally just use the 6v starter without changing it which works fine as long as the engine doesn't need a lot of cranking to start.
Nice to have met you folks today at Canton. Puts a real face with people who you have only seen on TH-cam. People just as nice and kind in person as they are on their show. Keep up the great work!! Never realized Wyatt, you were such a short fellow. Lol….
It was a pleasure to meet you. We always enjoy meeting our fans and hearing about your projects and/or experiences. And I get a lot of comments about how much taller I am in person lol
I think the heating with a torch method might have helped on this one.
Y’all boys put in a lot more into that than I would have. Ida cut the top of the motor off and mounted a cooler on top. Got to have a place for a beer after that much work 😃
You guys dont really have an idea what are you doing dont you? Im glad everything worked out fine ^^
Wow Restored you all had your hands full on this one.But with a blessing you got her mobile again! Great jobs Restored!!
If that cylinder had bent push rods to begin with you would expect the valves to have been closed and if that were so water should not have got into the combustion chamber and you would have a bit of a mystery on your hands.
Now that's a Tractor an a half, I don't believe I've ever seen one of these before. Makes me wish my Dad was still alive to see this.
I feel like if you block off the intake on the bad piston it would start!! That's a massive intake leak.
Heat it.
Sno-bowl will remove rust from a cylinder. Worked for me! Good luck brothers I restore antique tractors too!
PUT 45% VINEGAR IN THE CYLINDER AND LET SET 2 OR 3 DAYS. YOUR WORKING TOO HARD.
Un tractor così non lo avevo mai visto, complimenti a voi per essere riusciti a farlo camminare
I would love to commend you for the curtesy you showed with the gentleman you bought the tractors from!!! You are an extremely rare person for your age group. If you were my son i too would be very proud of you! Please don’t loose that trait!!!
I am a retired mechanic in the UK. I have never had a piston thar seized ever. Guys I thought you where both going to have heart attacks. I felt tired just watching you. great video though. Respect.
Good work guys!! I really enjoyed this, thanks for posting.
As a possible interesting aside for what it's worth...
We had an old generator that was frozen up really bad. After doing what you guys did, pounding on the cylinders until we were blue in the face and we gave up, my cousin put Marvel Mystery Oil in the cylinders and then just covered them with a tarp (which the Marvel ate up so don't do that, set the head back on it). We got back to it maybe 9 or 10 months later and it freed right up with no trouble at all. I don't know how long it would take but less than 10 months for sure. My cousin said that he had done it before and freed up a locked up engine on an old Willy's jeep in just a month.
I can see the old piston hanging on some bailing wire at the rear of this parade special.
What a fight but great results.
Thanks.
An amazing ending to a amazing story and adventure for everyone to enjoy!
I'll tell you what though - I'm just watching you load them up and that 2nd one is cool as beans That is one nice looking tractor! Those orange spoked wheels and that cool gas tank, frame and ORANGE~~!
I would praise you both for not giving up on the three pot wonder
I did not believe I was going to see it running but you proved me wrong
Well done 🙏🙏😍😍👍👍
That's easily the most stuck piston I've ever seen or even heard of. The whole time i was watching you guys banging on that forward most piston head, I was thinking to myself, "why aren't they grabbing a bottle jack, some square tubing, some chains, and use some good ol' hydraulic power to push that thing out?". Either way, yall did awesome to get a 4 cylinder running with a completely missing piston. Well done.
Y'all just got a new subscriber. Thank you for sharing. Gotta love the antiques.
This was fun to watch I come by y’all shop regularly hauling chickens I’m from mount pleasant you guys did a great job I remember my uncle taking one like that a farm all that was locked up he got it running
Love the precision craftsmanship. You guys are that bomb!
Love the longer video. And loved the truck. Anything is restoreable with the will power
Nice to see a good clean channel without all the foul language. Thanks for the quality content and cool tractor
In 1966 I bought an old ford Jailbar with a flathead V8 engine that had several problems, Cracks in the block, burnt valves. Having no money I decided to get it going as best I could with help from my dad we removed all the valves from 5 of the cylinders, blocked off the inlet ports, Sealed the valve guides and reassembled it. Ran it for 18 years on only 3 of the 8 cylinders. Spark plugs were left in place but no plug leads connected. Also ran it solely on diesel. Hard to start on a frosty morning and of course sluggish. Top speed was 55 mph (88kph) got 13 miles to the gallon.
The bent push rod happened before you guys got it. Crank needed to move to bend it. You probably already figured that out though. Nice find, have seen pictures of something like this but thought it was photoshopped. Like see father/son working together on projects. Brings back memories of my earlier years with my dad.
I like old tractors so naturally your video got my attention. I was pleasantly surprised to find out you guys are in Bogata, Texas - a place I visited many times early in my working career back in the 1980s. It’s a nice little town and I have many fond memories and made a few friends along the way. Your Siamese Allis Chalmers is quite a head turner but it isn’t the first time I’ve seen something like it. I saw a two Farmall tractors put together on an episode of Classic Tractor Fever. The guy that owned it did all the work himself and it was quite impressive engineering.
1:11:22 I was just saying bye to pops knuckles when he readjusted his grip. Good thing because that block is sharp as a razor blade I'm sure, nice save
That was so cool to see both motors running together.
Man yawl worked yawl's tail's off on that piston! I love the fact that y'all didn't let it whoop ya! Amazing it ran on three cylinders. Great video!
i love old tractors that run forever
Hello Sir...I'm a Micronesian from the island of Kosrae...and I watched some of your videos on restoring cars and rescuing vehicles...I enjoyed the fact that you work with your son or your dad to put this videos together. It's enjoyable and family friendly. Mechanics are what we don't have here....anyways...good luck on your endeavors.
Hello sir..you mentioned a prize...Do I get a prize?
Wow you guys really working on the very old pass tractors machines ,l think thius can gives lots of parts budy see them back on track ,like your jobs .the old tracks come to lives.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😎😜😜😜
You guys are so inspiring love you guys god bless all of you and your family
You guys are amazing. You don't see too many videos of father and son working side by side and the good lord, seen y'all struggling and he's like it mine turn
I've heard stories of my grandfather having a 6 cylinder with some busted pistons and he tore it apart and removed 3 of them and ran it or 3 cylinders and he used it on a home made tractor he beilt.
Great find, great video! It doesn't matter if the block is cracked in between the cylinders on this one guys. As You Both can tell, the block has wet sleeves. Pull the right engine, get it sleeved, put some new pistons, rings and bearing in it and run the hell out of it. She's got lots of life left in her for show-boating...
This might be the first time you bought a vehicle that both ran and didn't run! Great Video...
As an old farmer rancher guy I have owned my fair share of tractors and still do. I have even had the AC in the past that had a side scythe that I got working. Bought it for 300, sold it for 3600. That was a few years ago. I have NEVER seen an AC like that. Treasure it.
We collected over 600 antique tractors, as old as 1907 models, and freed up seized engines on hundreds of them since the 1960's.
Hammering on a piston at TDC is only going to bend rods, even on a free turning motor.
Also, hammering on a piston that is really seized almost always cracks piston ring lands (even with the rod removed).
What ALWAYS works is:
- Pull plugs/injectors (gas/diesel or kerosene)
- stuck out any water
- fill cylinders with a mix of ATF/diesel or a stronger rust busting chemical if you want it to free up faster
- let it sit for potentially months, topping up ATF/diesel and regularly checking if it will turn using a 18" to 30" bar (no more unless it is a huge Minneapolis-Moline or similar).
Eventually it will free up and we managed to get hundreds of engines freed up and running. Compression is often down by up to ~30% on one of two cylinders, especially initially, and they often burn oil or sometimes are found to have cracked blocks (almost always due to past freezing with water in coolant), but they always ran well enough to drive around a fairground show and well enough to do demo light field work. Also if we did decide to eventually rebuild an engine, having straight rods makes the job much easier.
Watching you guys hammering away and trying to force a seized motor to turn was painful. I'm sure that motor could have been freed up and run without bending any rods nor destroying any pistons if you just took your time and did it right.
ATF plus Acetone makes just about the best "penetrating oil" you can get, it's incredibly effective.
I’ve seen a few of these tractors that worked in the fields. Back when tractors started to get bigger they were trying everything under the sun to get more power. This is one of the ways. They would put duals on them because both engines still run and they needed the extra traction, but in the end they still couldn’t compete with the 4WD tractors.