Although not seen on a lot of areas, I heard about them being a go to tool for digging trenches when they did small irrigation systems in eastern washington state. I am seventy five an have seen many different types of ditch witches that challenged the rocky soils to do just what this one was designed to do
I have 5 Cleveland wheel ditches where i work, we have a model 95 and multiple model 247's, but your Buda is way older than mine, our company has ditched close to 50,000 miles with those machines.
I just can't describe the feeling I get when I hear a engine fire back to life after X number of years. It just makes me smile! Thank you for your diligence and good luck!
Definitely want to see this trencher work . Even better full time use . If not possible then in a museum where it can be seen and teach kids machines of the past .
I watched the entire video don't leave us hanging. Get a new radiator, use a 12-volt battery, get Dad some black coffee, good night's sleep, and let's move that piece of family history back into the sun! 😃
You and your DAD are the perfect picture of a father and son relationship. I myself never knew my dad but I broke the cycle and have tried my best to be a dad like you Sr.
It looks like you and your dad have the best relationship. And it really is true when they say that machines were built better back in the old days. Respect to you who fix machines like the one you are working on.
i was genuinely happy to see it run. reminded me of the time i was stuck in Minnesota reviving a dodge 360 engine from the 70's on a rv that was half sunk in the sand and snow on the side of a mountain. everything that was a moving part had to be worked on. what didn't need to be repaired from age was the question indeed! it was such a treat to get it finally running and driving again. sounded like a racecar when i was done and drove that 1000 miles home. it was a real adventure repairing it on the go and all the way home. good job you two. thank you for the happy memories.
I remember as a child watching a group of men run a machine like this one, however, it was much, much larger. They were running water to the neighbors. Our house was the last one on the line. It was so nice having running water in the house. I didn't realize how many memories this video would trigger.
Just ran on to your page. Im 61 and i luv seeing the old stuff getting worked on. Always make memories with your dad because one day hes not going to be around
Easily got my thumbs up! Cool project and even better seeing you and your dad working together like a team. Your dad seems like a pretty cool guy to hang around with.
Great job!! Get some sump oil and start soaking everything the sooner the better it will help when it comes time to get other bits moving. And throw a tarp over it to keep the rain out. Looking forward to the next installment thanks for posting.
I seen the oil and amp gage both working! Yard it out of the hole its in.... pull that clutch housing apart and give it a chance before winding up metal parts into a wad of junk.... just saying JR. I see it working again and if the inside of the clutch looks like the carb.... you get the picture
Do me a BIG favor put a small dab of grease on the cam lobe in the distributor. A dry cam will have a tendency to wear the fiber on the points changing the gap. Just a skim of grease will be sufficient.
The grease cap on that distributor is to grease the shaft. You fill that cap up and each time you run it, you give it a turn to push grease into the besrings/bushing
Nice video, you and your dad have a nice relationship, like the humor and your reasoning. I can tell that you both know what your doing....It reminds of a close friend for many years and his dad, they too love all kinds of machines, mostly cars.
Put your finger over or in the sparkplug hole for #1( careful,not too far) and turn it over til you feel compression. Then either via the timing marks or by something through the plug hole set it on TDC. Put your plug wires in or insert the distributor in so the rotor points at #1 on the cap,if so marked.Then arrange the rest of the wires in firing order with rotation. That'll get you in the ball park.Set timing by ear to where it runs best.On a 4 banger it can be set within a degree or two this way. Pretty easy,works great on old Farmalls this way as I take the distributor out to R&R points. Neat old trencher,it would be quite an attraction at an old iron show. Good to see you guys working on it together.
Looks like a bush so far Tyler! lol 🤣😂🤣 Might take a hour to get it out! 🤣😂🤣 That vine might take a chainsaw to get it off!WOW 😮 Nobody was going to steat it, nobody could find it Tyler, it definitely was safe there! I see now, it’s on tracks like a crawler! Makes me feel old, 77 I was 17 years old getting ready to graduate high school! I can’t wait to hear it run again!
@@dieseJL looks like your dad and I are ole timers! Lol 🤣😂🤣, we’ve seen a lot changes throughout the years! I like watching people save this old equipment because it’s a piece of history! Next best thing is when it gets restored to working order! Just think years from now the people who will be able to enjoy the history of these old pieces of equipment! It’s fascinating! 👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻💯💯💯
I graduated HS in 1964 and college in 1969. We had a V4 Budda engine on our motor car on the Huckleberry RR. It was the fastest thing on the railroad. Nobody dared to hold it wide open. It was air-cooled.
I ran a newer version of that regularly about 20 yrs ago. Digging under drains for new road construction. In the right kind of soil, ie. no rock, it was actually still viable compared to new stuff. We also used a big Vermeer chain style that would saw through anything, but I really liked that old Cleveland with the three transmissions. I remember having to stand on the one brake continuously to keep it going straight …
Just stumbled across this post fantastic very interesting to see you get this very old peace of equipment going again love to see more Cheers from Australia 👍
I have always, always said the part I need is sitting on a shelf in a very, very old barn somewhere that I really need. Finding it is the hard part. I feel ya man.
Yep! A-C used Buda gas engines thru the model U, then used the Buda diesel in the WD diesel tractors. After that they used Allis-Chalmers designed engines for all their tractors.
Interesting Machine! Sadly we don't normally find old iron like that here in the UK and Considering the Condition of some parts she didn't sound that bad when running, so yeah you got to get her Moving under her own power, and, dare i say it, Maybe Digging a Trench after all those years Asleep 😁❤
Awesome job! Great work hunting down the parts and mixing and fixing your ignition & distributor. I've been messing with a 30yr BMW 650 single motorcycle which I've had for 10years, had the same model nearly 30years ago brand new. It's pretty rough, but got it running today for the first time on 12+ years. So I've had a very similar experience although not anywhere near as amazing as you guys. Great to see both you and your dad messing with stuff, not anything I had a chance to do! Great content as always, keep it coming. Looking forward to Ep. 2, thanks for your channel. All the best, Ian
This is the first time I've landed on your videos. Love the way you chat with your dad. Reminds me of how my dad and I bicker a bit back and forth when working on projects. You can tell you trust his opinion but some stuff he can say just annoys you for no reason really. He's a character and hilarious to listen to. Pretty fun will it run and wish you guys the best!
I usta have a shop that bordered Cleveland Trencher's toxic, abandoned site. They pioneered motorized trenching just in time for WW1 and sold to all sides, made a fortune. Bailed to west coast in1970's. Dark piece of history to an awesome machine.
It may just be me! The interaction between you and your Dad before you go head first into a project, is such a flashback to the interactions my brothers and I had with Dad. My Dad is still with us, but he's had some serious medical issues and is now wheelchair-bound. The two of you make me laugh out loud as you go at each other. Some of our back-in-forths could get spicy, yet we were family and always, sometimes to our detriment, listened to what Pops was saying. It can be hard reminiscing with my Dad about the crazy stuff we have our minds set on because he no longer can get in the field or woods, fix it, blow it up, or cut it down. DieseJL thank you and keep working with your Dad. I hope your Son has the opportunity to wrench with him as well as even my daughter did when she was old enough to push the break and clutch in...
Before watching it, I'll say yes. Because I watched Tony Beets move that very old and dormant giant dredge and use it. And plenty of other old equipment. Those motors run.
Ok for the distributor . Put the cap on. Now find your number one cylinder wire. Mark with a sharpie or something on the housing (Not the cap) where the Number one cylinder wire plugs in. Remove the cap and lift the distributor enough so it turns free. Now turn the rotor to point at the number 1 cylinder mark you made on the housing. Re-seat the distributor the rotor will turn a bit when re-seating the distributor. Now rotate the distributor to line up the rotor with the mark you made on the housing. Just make sure your piston is at top dead center on the compression stroke before going through the directions noted above. Or your timing will be 180 degrees out and will not start. If your engine doesn't start you can slowly rotate the ditstributor one way or the other while cranking. It should start at Top dead center and small adjustment to rotating the distributor will help get it running smother. To set the points, we used a matchbook cover by the way for some FYI. Good Video.
The rough timing adjustment is just #1 cylinder TDC on compression stroke, rotate distributor so the points are just beginning to open then move the #1 spark plug wire to the nearest output terminal on the cap. I'm guessing the firring order is 1243... So move the other 3 wires in a clockwise order so it's 1243. The position of the distributor drive gear in the engine isn't important, if you pulled it out again you'd just go through the same procedure above. Once the engine is running, rotate the distributer to fine adjust it.
Most 4 cyl car engines are 1342.. with 4 throw crankshaft. If this engine has a 2 throw crank, then it would be different.. and I have no clue what kind of crank a Budda has. I would hope this info is online somewhere, like in a vintage tractor forum.
you can use a 12volt battery and it will turn over 4 times faster. you would have to have a resister added on the coil feed at the auto parts store. They have them on old trucks that are 12 volt systems. you can change to a alternator for charging . You just wire it to self regulate with a jumper wire, we did this on a old tractor that was a 6volt system and were very pleased with the outcome.
Once you get it out dad will start remembering how to operate it, that’s how I am! Once I start playing with something, I start remembering how to operate it again!
I Definitely agree with the statement regarding not throwing away any old parts no matter what it’s to even if something random like a fitting or any piece is no good and sitting in a tool bench for 20 years there’s still something someone can use it for like referencing a size for another one that may have broken off. Essentially even if something seems like it’s no good, even if it’s true, there IS a use for it. Even a broken gasket can be referenced to make a good one for something if need be. And the eBay part is true too you may feel crazy listing what seems like “trash/junk” but then you wake up one day months after listing and forgetting about it and you see at 3:38am you received a message saying someone wants to buy it lol it’s always the most random times too. Even if it’s parts for something like a piece of yard equipment from the 90s (which most would think “oh that’s too new or not old enough for people to want” but in reality it’s not and any time that passes is the older something gets and the quicker stuff is being discontinued and forgotten about. There’s always that one person old or young that’s working on something old thinking and knowing somewhere on this earth there’s good parts somewhere for it no matter how rare it is and if it’s something that was practically homemade, then at least you know you can make something to work. Once this stuff is gone it’s gone for good
Tyler, when you asked your Dad that he'd be best to tell the story about the Bucket Loader and Dad said "Oh, I could talk for an hour ! " -- We sent out for pizza === from two states away ! -- LMAO ! ----
@@SamRFixes A match book cover or the top flap off an old box of 30-30 rounds works also. Why everybody has a book of matches and a box of ammo in their glovebox nowadays. Don’t they? 🤔
50 some-odd years ago, used to be a pop-top from a beer/beverage can. (Heck... you can't find one now). Also could tear off the friction coating from a matchbook and use it to clean the points. (Sighs, if you ask kids now... what's a matchbook ?) Was surprised you didn't use a can of ether on it.
@@yowser8780 Yeah the girls would make long chains of the pop tops and drape them along the ceiling. Along with the little fuzzy feet 👣 yup I been there done that, got a T-shirt and wrote a book about then got sued for plagiarism twice and lost the T-shirt.
I'm no expert but the shaft that you cut from the distributor actually turns the oil pump so if you don't have any oil pressure, you may want to weld that length of shaft back on.... lol
You got me hooked into watching the whole video. Great job guys getting this old metal monster fired up. I’m subscribed to your channel now with bell notifications on, because I want to see you drive this machine out and then actually trench with it. This you must do for ALL of us viewers! I hope you get lucky and find a source for all the parts you may need, or repair some. Great video, thanks again guys! Hello from NW Indiana 😎👍
@@dieseJL Hello, I wouldn’t doubt if there was some old machine like that sinking into the ground around here too. I’ve seen excavators left out in farm fields to rust over here. At 57 I’ve always had the desire “since a kid” to operate heavy machinery someday. I hear there’s a place out in Vegas where a person can. Best of luck again with the Trencher, would love to see it in action. I used to install Toro irrigation systems in the past. We had a Vameer will trenching arm on one end and a pipe puller on other end to pull in rolls of poly pipe. One would walk beside this machine while another spun the roll of pipe as it went into the ground, it worked great, only left narrow incisions in the persons lawn.
Great video I would love to see part 2. you and your father who making that machine. it is a part of your family history. I would cherish that. you can also use a separate fuel tank for clean fuel or a filter and some new bogies and cables
Buda engine parts are rare as hens teeth,worked on locomotive with a buda engine had to have new parts made and machined.Thie are a few custom radiator shops around that will build one if planning on a restoration.For temp radiator use radiator for like custom car builds jus make sure inlets a outlets are in the correct place.
YES I HAVE I RAN A MODEL 92 AND A 110 TRENCHER BACK IN THE 1980 PUTTING IN WATER LI NE WITH THE 92 M/N AND GAS LINE NATURAL WITH THE M/N 110 WITH A BUDA ENGINE IN GREENVILLE SC 😊!!++
Heres how it happens...you use the machine, pay it off and make a bunch of money off of it. You get going on something else thinking maybe I will go back to trenching if digging foundations or whatever doesn't work out. Then the machine has sat for 5 years and ya think, maybe I should sell that, but would need some work to get it going and ya don't have time. Then its 10 years later and the machine now needs more work, it's also an older machine and not worth much. Think this thing is from the 30s so at the time it was parked it didn't quite have antique value yet. Like something from the 80s now a lot of that just gets scrapped.
Unfortunately. As the older equipment is replaced with modern equipment...The younger generation doesn't really want to delve into something that is beyond their knowledge...And don't feel a sense of desire to restore and utilize...Where the older generation will tend to not want to use newer equipment and stick with old school mindset....Even though the technology is more advanced...But ..The older stuff was built to last with real steel and no plastic or Vinyl...The machine would be a great item to use in gold mines ...I'd say it's a fun project to restore with the 3 generations there ...Father , Son, Grandson....The younger generation needs to see how America was built with classic muscle and equipment...The Amish use equipment like that still. Radiators can be re-cored ...Google is your best friend on that one...Just type in serial numbers and model numbers and part numbers. Sometimes you can find digital service manuals...Have fun and restore it... Maybe the guys from. American Pickers would be interested in it. Antique Archeology Inc.
It's not wealthy enough; it's too poor to get them fixed. I have a number of machines, dozer, excavator, 2 backhoes and a couple of tractors that will cost more to fix than buying a new one. All of them were running when parked but I'm not a mechanic so here they sit. I found one guy who said he could fix a couple. When he was done my wallet was empty and they were worse than b4. If I could find someone to fix the backhoe (runs great but developed a hydraulic problem) they can have the rest and I might be able to help haul them. The dozer (AC-HD5 10' blade) and one backhoe (IH 3616) are both 6 tons so my trailer can't handle them. These guys did awesome work to get that running. Great video.
I love the first step of saving old machines when the mechanic sprays WD/40 or penetration fluid on parts. You know the process has begun, that simple step alone rewinds years of neglect 👍🏼.
In my experience with 6 V tractor engines, when the engines are hard to crank over with the starter the voltage drops, which also drops the voltage to your coil and weakens your spark. When you are helping turn the engine over by cranking the crank, you’re taking some of the load off the starter, which lessons the voltage drop which in turn gives you better spark from your coil. One trick they used to do was put an 8 V battery in the old 6 V tractors and equipment. My dad told me they used to run a lot of model a Fords that way, but then you had to readjust the generator or it wouldn’t charge the battery up. Once you get the rings freed up, it will crank over a little better. I personally would pull the starter, clean it all up and bench run it to reseat the brushes. Another trick is to run a separate 6 V battery to the coil and ground. That keeps the voltage to your coil up so that you’ll get a hotter, spark.
I used to work for a company in Phoenix Arizona..we had several of those little Cleveland trenchers,we charged $3.00 a foot to dig with them,they were perfect on small jobs...
I don’t even know how I came across this video but had to comment on account of the Rip’s Chicken shirt! Some of the best fried chicken on earth. Greetings from Central IL!
If you find a need to open up the main jet, do it very little at a time test it and see if it works fine, don’t overdo it as it’s not fixable without another jet !
Anyone ever run one of these before?
Lots of people have.
Although not seen on a lot of areas, I heard about them being a go to tool for digging trenches when they did small irrigation systems in eastern washington state. I am seventy five an have seen many different types of ditch witches that challenged the rocky soils to do just what this one was designed to do
Yep
I have 5 Cleveland wheel ditches where i work, we have a model 95 and multiple model 247's, but your Buda is way older than mine, our company has ditched close to 50,000 miles with those machines.
Bet you installed distributor on e tooth off. Pull distributor or move wires on cap.
I just can't describe the feeling I get when I hear a engine fire back to life after X number of years. It just makes me smile! Thank you for your diligence and good luck!
Thanks for watching!!
I couldnt decribe the feeling I got when he had the distributoor in the vice and attempted to "fix"? it with that huge screwdriver.
Definitely want to see this trencher work . Even better full time use . If not possible then in a museum where it can be seen and teach kids machines of the past .
I watched the entire video don't leave us hanging. Get a new radiator, use a 12-volt battery, get Dad some black coffee, good night's sleep, and let's move that piece of family history back into the sun! 😃
Ha ha ha😂😂😂😂 Amen
@@CornelioManuel-lr3yj get good gas
yes!!
You and your DAD are the perfect picture of a father and son relationship. I myself never knew my dad but I broke the cycle and have tried my best to be a dad like you Sr.
It looks like you and your dad have the best relationship. And it really is true when they say that machines were built better back in the old days. Respect to you who fix machines like the one you are working on.
i was genuinely happy to see it run. reminded me of the time i was stuck in Minnesota reviving a dodge 360 engine from the 70's on a rv that was half sunk in the sand and snow on the side of a mountain. everything that was a moving part had to be worked on. what didn't need to be repaired from age was the question indeed! it was such a treat to get it finally running and driving again. sounded like a racecar when i was done and drove that 1000 miles home. it was a real adventure repairing it on the go and all the way home. good job you two. thank you for the happy memories.
Your Dad is a real cool guy!! He is so down to earth and easy going.
Yeah!
I remember as a child watching a group of men run a machine like this one, however, it was much, much larger. They were running water to the neighbors. Our house was the last one on the line. It was so nice having running water in the house. I didn't realize how many memories this video would trigger.
Just ran on to your page. Im 61 and i luv seeing the old stuff getting worked on. Always make memories with your dad because one day hes not going to be around
yeah, we have fun with this stuff it has been great
Easily got my thumbs up! Cool project and even better seeing you and your dad working together like a team. Your dad seems like a pretty cool guy to hang around with.
He is! Thanks for watching!
Great job!! Get some sump oil and start soaking everything the sooner the better it will help when it comes time to get other bits moving. And throw a tarp over it to keep the rain out. Looking forward to the next installment thanks for posting.
I seen the oil and amp gage both working! Yard it out of the hole its in.... pull that clutch housing apart and give it a chance before winding up metal parts into a wad of junk.... just saying JR. I see it working again and if the inside of the clutch looks like the carb.... you get the picture
yeah that and i gotta pull the radiator
dont pull radiator its not good to make liquor with@@dieseJL
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Do me a BIG favor put a small dab of grease on the cam lobe in the distributor. A dry cam will have a tendency to wear the fiber on the points changing the gap. Just a skim of grease will be sufficient.
you got it
Try non mineral based hi- temp white grease.
Some of them used to have a little felt pad for this very reason.
@@Iaintwoke also sometimes new sets of points came with a tiny packet with a fingernails amount of grease to swab the felt pad.
@@Iaintwoke. The old BSA motorcycles I used to have, & lots of other British machines had those. I used a drop of Singer Sewing Machine oil.👍.
The grease cap on that distributor is to grease the shaft. You fill that cap up and each time you run it, you give it a turn to push grease into the besrings/bushing
The official name, or one of them, is Stauffer cup.
I could listen to these two lightly bust each other’s chops all day.
Nice video, you and your dad have a nice relationship, like the humor and your reasoning. I can tell that you both know what your doing....It reminds of a close friend for many years and his dad, they too love all kinds of machines, mostly cars.
Come on you gotta drive it out for your Dad
All The Best 🇬🇧
Was a pleasure to see the bond in your family and your tenacity to get the job done. A true pleasure to watch. Keep that old iron running!!
I think it's really cool that as time has gone on with your videos that you and your dad are more and more connected on these projects.
Great opportunity to spend time with father and son, cherish these times! Great video, try to break her loose.
Amazing ! This is one of the last great TH-cam channels. No horseshit, no rubbish, just great content.
Thanks for the support!
At 45:17 started the best statement ever…..love it!
God bless!
Nice getting it running. Old girlfriend actually worked for Cleveland trencher in the 80’s
Put your finger over or in the sparkplug hole for #1( careful,not too far) and turn it over til you feel compression. Then either via the timing marks or by something through the plug hole set it on TDC. Put your plug wires in or insert the distributor in so the rotor points at #1 on the cap,if so marked.Then arrange the rest of the wires in firing order with rotation. That'll get you in the ball park.Set timing by ear to where it runs best.On a 4 banger it can be set within a degree or two this way. Pretty easy,works great on old Farmalls this way as I take the distributor out to R&R points. Neat old trencher,it would be quite an attraction at an old iron show. Good to see you guys working on it together.
Looks like a bush so far Tyler! lol 🤣😂🤣 Might take a hour to get it out! 🤣😂🤣 That vine might take a chainsaw to get it off!WOW 😮 Nobody was going to steat it, nobody could find it Tyler, it definitely was safe there! I see now, it’s on tracks like a crawler! Makes me feel old, 77 I was 17 years old getting ready to graduate high school! I can’t wait to hear it run again!
I think my dad was 19
@@dieseJL looks like your dad and I are ole timers! Lol 🤣😂🤣, we’ve seen a lot changes throughout the years! I like watching people save this old equipment because it’s a piece of history! Next best thing is when it gets restored to working order! Just think years from now the people who will be able to enjoy the history of these old pieces of equipment! It’s fascinating! 👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻💯💯💯
I graduated HS in 1964 and college in 1969.
We had a V4 Budda engine on our motor car on the Huckleberry RR. It was the fastest thing on the railroad. Nobody dared to hold it wide open. It was air-cooled.
Love to your dad, seems a great, down to earth guy, but god damn that "uh oh" when you are trying to get into something, would drive me crazy!!! 😅😂
Uh oh
@@dieseJL 😂😂
I ran a newer version of that regularly about 20 yrs ago. Digging under drains for new road construction. In the right kind of soil, ie. no rock, it was actually still viable compared to new stuff. We also used a big Vermeer chain style that would saw through anything, but I really liked that old Cleveland with the three transmissions. I remember having to stand on the one brake continuously to keep it going straight …
thats amazing
loving your dads commentary, sounds just like my Dad with the uh oh's and what do we have here, that's a problem :)
WELL DONE GUYS, that was tremendous hard and Frustrating work, but you got it started, WELL DONE.
Just stumbled across this post fantastic very interesting to see you get this very old peace of equipment going again love to see more Cheers from Australia 👍
Family heirloom so definitely worth restoring. Looks like it was built like a tank.
yeah man just leave her outside for 50 years she'll be ready to trench
I have always, always said the part I need is sitting on a shelf in a very, very old barn somewhere that I really need. Finding it is the hard part. I feel ya man.
That must have been a blast getting that thing going…..esp with your Dad. Good Job!!!!
Thanks!!
Didn't give up,and a machine of the past awoke once more...Nice
Buda was built in Harvey, Illinois and was purchased by Allis-Chalmers in the 30's or 40's. Used primarily on rail equipment, A very reliable engine.
Yep! A-C used Buda gas engines thru the model U, then used the Buda diesel in the WD diesel tractors. After that they used Allis-Chalmers designed engines for all their tractors.
definitely starter, gunna need one anyways no doubt, man this had me google lens the parts looking them up .. man this was fun .
Interesting Machine! Sadly we don't normally find old iron like that here in the UK and Considering the Condition of some parts she didn't sound that bad when running, so yeah you got to get her Moving under her own power, and, dare i say it, Maybe Digging a Trench after all those years Asleep 😁❤
Awesome job! Great work hunting down the parts and mixing and fixing your ignition & distributor. I've been messing with a 30yr BMW 650 single motorcycle which I've had for 10years, had the same model nearly 30years ago brand new. It's pretty rough, but got it running today for the first time on 12+ years. So I've had a very similar experience although not anywhere near as amazing as you guys. Great to see both you and your dad messing with stuff, not anything I had a chance to do! Great content as always, keep it coming. Looking forward to Ep. 2, thanks for your channel. All the best, Ian
thanks for watching! good luck on the bike!
That just happened when it rolled over! Good job guys, order a distributor hopefully! Stuff a rag in the distributor hole y’all!
It's such a happy moment when it finally runs ! (and your number of subscriptions keeps going up, too!)
This is the first time I've landed on your videos. Love the way you chat with your dad. Reminds me of how my dad and I bicker a bit back and forth when working on projects. You can tell you trust his opinion but some stuff he can say just annoys you for no reason really. He's a character and hilarious to listen to. Pretty fun will it run and wish you guys the best!
thanks for tuning in!
Yes, keep it going. Drive it out would be great. Thanks for the hard work.
O and pops is a hoot.😂
drive it out buddy,family heirloom,its a must❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I usta have a shop that bordered Cleveland Trencher's toxic, abandoned site. They pioneered motorized trenching just in time for WW1 and sold to all sides, made a fortune. Bailed to west coast in1970's.
Dark piece of history to an awesome machine.
Wow that’s amazing
It may just be me! The interaction between you and your Dad before you go head first into a project, is such a flashback to the interactions my brothers and I had with Dad. My Dad is still with us, but he's had some serious medical issues and is now wheelchair-bound. The two of you make me laugh out loud as you go at each other. Some of our back-in-forths could get spicy, yet we were family and always, sometimes to our detriment, listened to what Pops was saying. It can be hard reminiscing with my Dad about the crazy stuff we have our minds set on because he no longer can get in the field or woods, fix it, blow it up, or cut it down. DieseJL thank you and keep working with your Dad. I hope your Son has the opportunity to wrench with him as well as even my daughter did when she was old enough to push the break and clutch in...
thanks! yeah we are making a ton of good memories...
Before watching it, I'll say yes. Because I watched Tony Beets move that very old and dormant giant dredge and use it. And plenty of other old equipment. Those motors run.
I gotta say, what got me to hit the subscribe button was the toddler chucking all your tools on the floor in the background.
As he gets bigger and stronger he just throws more tools
@@dieseJL So long as he does not throw them at you.
if you guys aren't the best, then i don't know who is. i look forward to your videos, thank you for making them
Ok for the distributor . Put the cap on. Now find your number one cylinder wire. Mark with a sharpie or something on the housing (Not the cap) where the Number one cylinder wire plugs in. Remove the cap and lift the distributor enough so it turns free. Now turn the rotor to point at the number 1 cylinder mark you made on the housing. Re-seat the distributor the rotor will turn a bit when re-seating the distributor. Now rotate the distributor to line up the rotor with the mark you made on the housing. Just make sure your piston is at top dead center on the compression stroke before going through the directions noted above. Or your timing will be 180 degrees out and will not start. If your engine doesn't start you can slowly rotate the ditstributor one way or the other while cranking. It should start at Top dead center and small adjustment to rotating the distributor will help get it running smother. To set the points, we used a matchbook cover by the way for some FYI. Good Video.
The rough timing adjustment is just #1 cylinder TDC on compression stroke, rotate distributor so the points are just beginning to open then move the #1 spark plug wire to the nearest output terminal on the cap. I'm guessing the firring order is 1243... So move the other 3 wires in a clockwise order so it's 1243. The position of the distributor drive gear in the engine isn't important, if you pulled it out again you'd just go through the same procedure above. Once the engine is running, rotate the distributer to fine adjust it.
Most 4 cyl car engines are 1342.. with 4 throw crankshaft. If this engine has a 2 throw crank, then it would be different.. and I have no clue what kind of crank a Budda has. I would hope this info is online somewhere, like in a vintage tractor forum.
@@jenniferwhitewolf3784Most Modern 4 cylinder engines are 1342. An older/ antique engine is typically 1243.
you can use a 12volt battery and it will turn over 4 times faster. you would have to have a resister added on the coil feed at the auto parts store. They have them on old trucks that are 12 volt systems. you can change to a alternator for charging . You just wire it to self regulate with a jumper wire, we did this on a old tractor that was a 6volt system and were very pleased with the outcome.
It’s great how you and your dad do things together all the best to you guys
Great to see a new video ,it's like un-wrapping a Christmas present as a kid,LOL....GO LIONS ONE PRIDE!
whew go tigers
@@dieseJL Lions, Tigers and definitely not the Bears Roar Detroit
Yeah we need to see this thing in action!👍👍
too cool make it work 1/2 the battle is done
Once you get it out dad will start remembering how to operate it, that’s how I am! Once I start playing with something, I start remembering how to operate it again!
yeah but then i asked him if it sounded how he remembered and he said 'idk' lol
I Definitely agree with the statement regarding not throwing away any old parts no matter what it’s to even if something random like a fitting or any piece is no good and sitting in a tool bench for 20 years there’s still something someone can use it for like referencing a size for another one that may have broken off. Essentially even if something seems like it’s no good, even if it’s true, there IS a use for it. Even a broken gasket can be referenced to make a good one for something if need be. And the eBay part is true too you may feel crazy listing what seems like “trash/junk” but then you wake up one day months after listing and forgetting about it and you see at 3:38am you received a message saying someone wants to buy it lol it’s always the most random times too. Even if it’s parts for something like a piece of yard equipment from the 90s (which most would think “oh that’s too new or not old enough for people to want” but in reality it’s not and any time that passes is the older something gets and the quicker stuff is being discontinued and forgotten about. There’s always that one person old or young that’s working on something old thinking and knowing somewhere on this earth there’s good parts somewhere for it no matter how rare it is and if it’s something that was practically homemade, then at least you know you can make something to work. Once this stuff is gone it’s gone for good
Tyler, when you asked your Dad that he'd be best to tell the story about the Bucket Loader and Dad said "Oh, I could talk for an hour ! " -- We sent out for pizza === from two states away ! -- LMAO ! ----
hahahaha.... and you didn't see everything i cut out
@@dieseJL Tyler, you're a gem ! -- Don't let anything happen to Dad !
Deep down your dad probably hated that machine
Great job it sounds real good , you two got some talent !
A business card works well for the points gap, I do it all the time.
@@SamRFixes A match book cover or the top flap off an old box of 30-30 rounds works also. Why everybody has a book of matches and a box of ammo in their glovebox nowadays. Don’t they? 🤔
I just use the top flap of the box that they come in.
50 some-odd years ago, used to be a pop-top from a beer/beverage can. (Heck... you can't find one now).
Also could tear off the friction coating from a matchbook and use it to clean the points. (Sighs, if you ask kids now... what's a matchbook ?) Was surprised you didn't use a can of ether on it.
@@yowser8780 Yeah the girls would make long chains of the pop tops and drape them along the ceiling. Along with the little fuzzy feet 👣
yup I been there done that, got a T-shirt and wrote a book about then got sued for plagiarism twice and lost the T-shirt.
You have to keep Dad in the videos. His commentary is priceless! Has me laughing. 😂😂
hahah yeah... he is a wild one
I'm no expert but the shaft that you cut from the distributor actually turns the oil pump so if you don't have any oil pressure, you may want to weld that length of shaft back on.... lol
Not on that model
yeah the oil pump must be somewhere else on this engine
You got me hooked into watching the whole video. Great job guys getting this old metal monster fired up. I’m subscribed to your channel now with bell notifications on, because I want to see you drive this machine out and then actually trench with it. This you must do for ALL of us viewers! I hope you get lucky and find a source for all the parts you may need, or repair some. Great video, thanks again guys!
Hello from NW Indiana
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Thanks for watching and you are not too far from us!
@@dieseJL Hello, I wouldn’t doubt if there was some old machine like that sinking into the ground around here too. I’ve seen excavators left out in farm fields to rust over here. At 57 I’ve always had the desire “since a kid” to operate heavy machinery someday. I hear there’s a place out in Vegas where a person can. Best of luck again with the Trencher, would love to see it in action. I used to install Toro irrigation systems in the past. We had a Vameer will trenching arm on one end and a pipe puller on other end to pull in rolls of poly pipe. One would walk beside this machine while another spun the roll of pipe as it went into the ground, it worked great, only left narrow incisions in the persons lawn.
It must be great having fantastic treasure hidden all over the place like this, that brings back such amazing family memories.
My grandfather was an engineer on b24s in Italy 1943-45, 450th Bomb Group 721st squadron. Glad I found your channel. @dieseJL
I will ask and see what my grandpa was on. I know he was there and about the same timeframe.
You hate to get rid of it, and you don’t want to see it scrapped!
outstanding! old canners above are rejoicing at your old iron resurrection
Great video. You’ll have memories from this one for sure.
indeed
Great video I would love to see part 2. you and your father who making that machine. it is a part of your family history. I would cherish that. you can also use a separate fuel tank for clean fuel or a filter and some new bogies and cables
Buda engine parts are rare as hens teeth,worked on locomotive with a buda engine had to have new parts made and machined.Thie are a few custom radiator shops around that will build one if planning on a restoration.For temp radiator use radiator for like custom car builds jus make sure inlets a outlets are in the correct place.
watching the oil pressure gauge sky rocket brought a smile to my face so fast man. i love the way those old things looked!
That's great
You know we gotta see it work man
give us a few years lol
Super video!!! Thanks for your patience and getting it going!!!! Yay!!! How about winching it out of the bush?
only one way out... it must drive
Restore that thing in memory of you grandfather.
Thank you for sharing, always a pleasure watch your project, i learn a lot 👍👍👍👍
I love this sound, stereo... full😊😊
It’s going to work Tyler, you got this brother
Part 2. Driving it out, please! I know its a load of work. But its great content.
It will happen!
WOW! it's cleaning up nice. 😂
YES I HAVE I RAN A MODEL 92 AND A 110 TRENCHER BACK IN THE 1980 PUTTING IN WATER LI NE WITH THE 92 M/N AND GAS LINE NATURAL WITH THE M/N 110 WITH A BUDA ENGINE IN GREENVILLE SC 😊!!++
YOU DONT NEED TO SHOUT, JERRY
Aawww the baby boy! I do exactly the same thing, my garage is a mess, mess of fun lol.
I dream of someday being wealthy enough to let a $25,000 piece of equipment just sit and rust into the ground.
Heres how it happens...you use the machine, pay it off and make a bunch of money off of it. You get going on something else thinking maybe I will go back to trenching if digging foundations or whatever doesn't work out. Then the machine has sat for 5 years and ya think, maybe I should sell that, but would need some work to get it going and ya don't have time. Then its 10 years later and the machine now needs more work, it's also an older machine and not worth much. Think this thing is from the 30s so at the time it was parked it didn't quite have antique value yet. Like something from the 80s now a lot of that just gets scrapped.
Unfortunately. As the older equipment is replaced with modern equipment...The younger generation doesn't really want to delve into something that is beyond their knowledge...And don't feel a sense of desire to restore and utilize...Where the older generation will tend to not want to use newer equipment and stick with old school mindset....Even though the technology is more advanced...But ..The older stuff was built to last with real steel and no plastic or Vinyl...The machine would be a great item to use in gold mines ...I'd say it's a fun project to restore with the 3 generations there ...Father , Son, Grandson....The younger generation needs to see how America was built with classic muscle and equipment...The Amish use equipment like that still. Radiators can be re-cored ...Google is your best friend on that one...Just type in serial numbers and model numbers and part numbers. Sometimes you can find digital service manuals...Have fun and restore it... Maybe the guys from. American Pickers would be interested in it. Antique Archeology Inc.
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The dude was family planning for his son born in the 90s, hopping him/her doesn’t have to live like most of you internet trolls lol
It's not wealthy enough; it's too poor to get them fixed. I have a number of machines, dozer, excavator, 2 backhoes and a couple of tractors that will cost more to fix than buying a new one. All of them were running when parked but I'm not a mechanic so here they sit. I found one guy who said he could fix a couple. When he was done my wallet was empty and they were worse than b4. If I could find someone to fix the backhoe (runs great but developed a hydraulic problem) they can have the rest and I might be able to help haul them. The dozer (AC-HD5 10' blade) and one backhoe (IH 3616) are both 6 tons so my trailer can't handle them. These guys did awesome work to get that running. Great video.
You boys are the Clint Eastwoods of engine starts😂
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@dieseJL do you have a follow up video on this trencher? Great video thanks. Regards from UK
Get it running please
Stick one of those 1/2" badass impact drivers in the manual kicker!?
I love the first step of saving old machines when the mechanic sprays WD/40 or penetration fluid on parts. You know the process has begun, that simple step alone rewinds years of neglect 👍🏼.
"Youse" guys sound like your midwest, but that looks more like the Amazon.
In my experience with 6 V tractor engines, when the engines are hard to crank over with the starter the voltage drops, which also drops the voltage to your coil and weakens your spark. When you are helping turn the engine over by cranking the crank, you’re taking some of the load off the starter, which lessons the voltage drop which in turn gives you better spark from your coil. One trick they used to do was put an 8 V battery in the old 6 V tractors and equipment.
My dad told me they used to run a lot of model a Fords that way, but then you had to readjust the generator or it wouldn’t charge the battery up. Once you get the rings freed up, it will crank over a little better. I personally would pull the starter, clean it all up and bench run it to reseat the brushes. Another trick is to run a separate 6 V battery to the coil and ground. That keeps the voltage to your coil up so that you’ll get a hotter, spark.
I used to work for a company in Phoenix Arizona..we had several of those little Cleveland trenchers,we charged $3.00 a foot to dig with them,they were perfect on small jobs...
Anybody remember Mutt and Jeff?
I don’t even know how I came across this video but had to comment on account of the Rip’s Chicken shirt! Some of the best fried chicken on earth. Greetings from Central IL!
Drag her out, get it in the garage and get it operational!
I love it when people get old things fully operational. Back to its former glory.
Great. Vid. You can’t give up on that machine. Keep going.
Get it running and working, of course!
1:46:09 trench
If you find a need to open up the main jet, do it very little at a time test it and see if it works fine, don’t overdo it as it’s not fixable without another jet !
10:38 I heard that fart.
Nice! good fun, Hope to see you drive it out of there and dig a trench!
Dude you may not know what you are doing but you fake it very well.