Mastersounds Four Valve MK2 Rotary Mixer Review | Beatsource Tech
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- It's been six months since we brought you our first look at the Four Valve MK2 mixer from Mastersounds, and so it's time to report some conclusions on sound and performance from a long-term perspective. How does the tube-equipped analogue rotary flagship from the established British manufacturer hold up in the increasingly packed boutique mixer market? Find out on this episode of #BeatsourceTech.
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0:00 Intro
1:29 Pricing
2:05 Sound Quality
4:00 Functions Demo
11:40 Crossfader
13:25 Build Quality
14:30 Connectivity
15:26 Conclusions - เพลง
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I bought the 4 valve mk2 about 6 weeks ago, It is by far the best mixer I've ever had, I absolutely love it
I bought my 2 valve mk1 weeks before the mk 2 was released. Fell in love with it then felt a bit shafted
@@cubecubesson6779 hate that
@@cubecubesson6779you should tell them asap. Esp if you havent unsealed the plastic. 😉
Hi really nice purchase! What kind of speakers do you use? And with turntables I suppose?
Cannot decide if i buy the Black or Silver plate!
Which is best suited and why?
Want to get the Best one based on thought.
I played this mixer at Dante’s hifi and it was such a fun mixer plus the sound was impecable
Mister Jaxx, I bought the Mastersound Raduis 4V because of your review!!!!! Sir, You're going to get me into a lot of trouble with my wife. I will plead mental illness when I buy the MK2!!!!
Haha, sorry!
Get the new one and sell the old one. You will loose very little money. They hold value. Plus it's EXACTLY the same size. (She probably wont notice) 🤭
FANTASTIC REVIEW!! I’ve owned two: Radius 4 Premium Edition and the Radius 4V. Sold the former after I bought the latter-with supreme delight. My friend is ecstatic with the Radius 4 and I couldn’t be more pleased with my Radius 4V even though it’s the first iteration.
With regard to your question for the comments I’d say the Technics 1200/1210, Isonoe420 and my Mastersounds bespoke icy white 4V flanked by heavily modded icy white Mastersounds 1210s are the prettiest kit I’ve deejayed on. Gotta give props to my Condesa Lucia Firecracker Edition rotary mixer. It’s also of thing of beauty. Keep the stellar reviews coming!!! ✌🏽
My dude. You are part of the reason I'm in the MasterSounds family. lol. The MK2 is really next level. ARS who??? lol.
The best crafted mixers for were my rotary Xone 92 & Xone DB4 (I believe both designed by the same dude who did this one) The DB4 was ahead of it’s time & super underrated
Soooo happy with my Two Valve MK2 ! The sound is amazing .... no joke.... if you get one...GET THE FX UNIT ....💥🫶
The flexible cross fader brings an incredible amount of flexibility to the very rigid rotary mixer options out there. It and the cue system in the 4V were the reasons I upgraded from my Radius 4. Thx for another great review!!!
Great review. Always appreciate your perspective. One note to add that is less than fair, the orbit 6 can easily be adapted to a table top type of setup. I can share a pic for anyone considering. These 2 mixers are separate market segments only by need for the additional functional channels and budget. Otherwise, one shouldn’t pass on the orbit simply due to lack of simple wood working skills. I created a table top version of the 6 in
Fantastic review, I’ve just ordered one and the FX. I had a Bozak AR4 which I loved but every now and then when I played some hip hop I really missed a crossfader. Really excited to get it plugged in.
Great review for a great mixer. I picked up one of the BLU edition 4V and I love it, I'm glad you agree too. Keep up the good work mate...
Love ❤️ it still want one
Been looking forward to this review and now I'm pretty much set on buying this mixer (ideally with the FX unit and TT weights). Just might be a while, here in the USA that pound to dollar exchange really sucks right now, oof 😅
A very good review . As you are a working DJ it would be the cherry on the MS cake to see you do a short mix which would allow you to demonstrate the summing , the use of the crossfader the EQ's and the HPF.
Totally agree on the fader cut in
just received the 2 channel one today 😅 fantastic warms ❤
great review 👍
Thx. for that review! My fave comment of yours: "... unless you're going ful Claussell" Ha, ha got me😉
I first came across that rather unique way of routing the cue on my 1603, and I always wondered why this wasnt waaaay more common. the only thing that the mastersounds is missing is a split option for the vu-meter, so that side by side metering is possible even without having to use split cue all the time.
Nice one
Saving my pennies for the 2 channel version. Wish they'd put the new four band kill and return pot from the new Radius mixers on this though. But I guess you can't have everything! :)
Now we need a review for Can Electric TAULA 4 MR
It's such a shame that for all the features it has, there is only one send/return circuit per channel for a mixer costing as much as a DJM V10.
If you want to get the old Xone 92 crowd interested then Mastersounds really need to start addressing that area.
I know may not be purist rotary but would love to see one of these mastersounds with a soundcard option built in like found in the xone 96.
agree about the fader and scratching
I had a Xone - 92 Dark Bahamas Edition. Man that was a beautiful mod to the 92. And the summing was something else.
I play mostly in headphones and A & H mixers are dreadful for that so I ended up selling, but would definitely still have it if it wasn't for that.
Definitely tempted to sell my Rane 2015 and pick this up. Although that pfl workflow gives me A & H mixer vibes, lol!
FYI, Headphone amp on the Mk2 is next level. Honestly the only mixer I have ever used that the headphone amp caught my attention instantly. I use it late at night with my Sennheiser HD 600s and its spooky good. Sometimes I turn around because I hear things behind me. lol.
@DanielRivera-wn7ne LOL, nice! Can see that being nerve-wracking, especially after a couple of cocktails, lol.
Is it like the A&H mixers where the volume of the main mix decreases when you activate cue on one of the channels?
Yeah, Xone 92 and headphones is a thing to work around with to have the quality. Really curious about this four valve one though, very cool. It seems rotary knobs is and american thing, let's say, and faders a european thing. Funny to see the differences.
I own/owned so many mixers: Pioneer S9, S11, 900NXS2, V10 / A&H DB4, PX5, 92, 96 / Rane 70, 72, MP2015 / Model 1 / Mastersounds 4Vmk1
talking about 'sound quality' Mastersounds is the best I ever played, powerful but smooth, frequencies are so well mixed.. (just behind it's Xone 96)
Mastersounds 4Vmk2 it's great for sure, just I don't like so much that (new) tiny space between channel knob and CUE
How would you say the valve compares to the v10?
oh i do like the blue one
I want one... Even it's my whole dj booth in purchase price 😅
It took me a minute to get comfortable with it when I played on it at Dante's as well.
“Angry shade of red”
This mixer knows the meaning of “redlining is headlining.”
In terms of construction and craftsmanship, the Shure SM58 mic is up there with the SL1200. They can take a beating, dropping, screaming and they work every time. There’s a reason they dominated the live music industry for so long. Not perfect for studio work, there are more subtle and warmer mics, but every DJ booth has one somewhere, next to the mini fridge, a pile of jackets and hand scribbled requests.
Good shout!
Newer Innofader’s seem to have this problem with a larger cut-in gap. I have this problem on the PNP3 with my Rane Seventy mixer and Elliot just wasn’t able to get it any sharper without breaking the functionality. Shame.
I love this and might get one.
I defiantly think it should just be set as a short cut fader, maybe with adjustment of short length so all tastes are covered.
I was first glad you can select it to not touch the cross fader at all as it's such a easy thing to knock, but liked the fact I could engage it to scratch.
I guess you might want the full cross fade so you can cut track out quicker than a rotary, but they could make it a shorter fade without that being compromised where the short cross fade is too noticeable not being short enough... just favour that... you'd only want it for cutting tracks quicker so a full slow fad is pointless anyway
You can always mod this yourself though
The aux send and return does allow extra effects in the chain... would have been nice to have a selectable two but hey ho
Just wow. Actually thinking about selling my Rane MP2105 or simply saving up for this! ps whats the song ID? Obvioulsy a remix of new order but what mix? 15:17
its very nice and the inclusion of a cross fader is a plus .Iam not a fan of fully rotary mixers
The isonoe 420 is the only one i have used that compares tbh
Would love a comparison between the 420 and the radius
For my vinyls, the 2 channels would be a godsend. Great review as always! Now... the only thing missing is the Clarity A review... :)
That's coming too! As soon as I can.
The Clarity A review has become a legend now... 😅
Re the cut in on the innofader, is it possible to recalibrate it to your own tastes?
I still own a set of SL 1200s since the eighties, both in great shape. On another topic: Are you going to review the new Traktor X1 MK3? Because I still really love my original Traktor X1 MK1.
Yeah, I have a pair, review coming as soon as possible.
Would love to get your thoughts on a Condesa. That's the only thing stopping me from buying this. Got the MS FX unit with my 96 and love it
@djstuc yeah have watched that older video. I live in Australia so no dramas on the shipping side of things for me thankfully. I think you get a bit more bang for your buck with MasterSounds though in terms of the features.
Never go full Clausell
Hard agree lol
dunno I find it hard to object to a man who clearly looks to enjoy himself THAT much!!!
Nobody should go full Claussell... Except Joe Claussell
@@Mojaxx my sentiment exactly chief!
Lollll!!!
It would be great to see you do a review of an Alpha Recording System mixer. If I was to splash out on a boutique rotary, I would be conflicted about whether to get a Mastersounds or an Alpha. Best of both worlds with rotaries and a crossfader on the Mastersounds though. I have a vintage Vestax MW-3000 which also has both options and I love that flexibility.
I'll chime in on this one since I have owned the following mixers. 1-The MasterSounds 4v 2- The ARS 9000s 3- (Current Mixer) MasterSounds 4V Mk2. This might be a little long so bare with me.
The Original MS 4V was an amazing sounding and feeling mixer. It had almost all the bells and whistles I ever wanted including per channel sends! BUT for my style of mixing, I longed for more aggressive EQs. I was always wanting more when I used the channel EQs and because of that, I always felt I was not achieving the mixes I truly wanted.
Additionally the main stereo Iso was not the best for performance in my opinion. (I'm a NYC bred DJ. I play my ISO).
Now back to the good. We must talk about customer service. MasterSounds is beyond reproach! They truly care for their customers. I once had a power surge and needed it serviced. After some detailed but fast trouble shooting, they sent me a label, fixed it in a weeks time and shipped it right back. Super fast considering they are in the UK. VERY IMPRESIVE.
So, because of my desire for different style EQs, I decided to give the ARS a go. It had the hybrid EQs/Isolators on each channel which I was curious about. It had the sends which is a MUST for me. A full ISO. Seemed great.
I hooked it up and BOOM! What a sound!! Punchy as hell. Loved it! EQ's were NICE! ISO? NICE!!
So I sold my MS4V. (I lost NO money on it which was a plus! MS holds it value. So does ARS, but more on that later).
So, I did discover a flaw with the ARS. The send/ return system has some very low level bleed that would never go away. It was as if my effect unit was always on in the back ground. (MS FX box I did not sell). No one else noticed but me but I'm and engineer and I'm sensitive to these things. Actually I did find another person with the same exact issue on Reddit. This confirmed that it was not just MY mixer, but was probably a design flaw.
I immediately contacted ARS and what a nightmare. It took WEEKS for them to respond, and when they finally did, they gave me some lame answer about mismatched impedances. I have worked on many studio consoles with send return systems and never had this issue they were asking me (and the other guy on Reddit) to live with. I was not happy but could not loose the features and that great sound (ruined by the bleed).
Finally, MasterSounds announces the Mk2 and I feel like Santa read my wish list! lol. I ordered the mixer and fell in love INSTANTLY. Everything I wished the original 4V had was added to this mixer and them some. The filter was just a cherry on top, but I use it the most now. The sounds is better than the original IMHO and I can't say enough about the headphone amp. Yes the headphone amp catches attention for it clean and engaging sound. Truly exceptional, audiophile quality.
So, in conclusion, MS wins hands down. ARS has a great following and if it was not for the defect, I'm sure I would still own it. Just hope it never breaks down because they could care less about their customers.
Hope this helps!
@@DanielRivera-wn7ne That helps a lot! I did come across a comment somewhere else about the bleed issue with the effects send and return on the Alphas. What a shame. This alone, would be a deal breaker for me, but I was unaware of the poor customer service from ARS. Thanks for the detailed response. Much appreciated.
Of course. Lots of money being spent. We got to look out for our fellow DJs.@@davidpope5457
@@DanielRivera-wn7ne What's changed with the EQs on the MK2?
The cuts are a bit lower. I think about 5dB less. Makes a big difference when blending.
@@pablodados
Which more affordable mixers did you compare it with to arrive at the conclusion that it's very good value? I'm curious how it compares to the new euphonia.
what FX unit you play with? it's perfectly 'in time'..
Some bit of kit! I’d sell my organs for one of these ❤
Quite interested to know if you have an Ecler four channel sitting behind you now...👀
I was wondering that myself, I was first looking at that one before I learned of the Master Sounds which is now the front runner for my vinyl setup at home.
I have the 2 channel version and I do use the crossfader primarily to do long smooth blends. I bought it mainly for the sound quality of the valves and the crossfader. As many people have said, it does sound amazing.
But…. The dead zone on mine is about 1cm on each side and drops off immediately on any other setting than hard left. In this 'linear' mode, the volume really drops off in the middle I can’t get a good linear curve from end to end, like my Rane TTM57, and as such, am unable to gently bring in the incoming track.
Documented my issue here: th-cam.com/video/ENxJ1YZJOXg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=xqONVnnNz_NOBayu
I feel like if they gave their ISO's some sort of character (I.e steep, 4 pole iso) then what is a great mixer would be an excellent mixer
I agree totally. Honesly the reason why I sold my original 4V. But I must say, the filter and better EQ sections of the Mk2 fixed that issue for me and then some. I use the ISO as more of an over all EQ and it's great for that. Filter and FX unit for "Full on Clausell" action. LOL.
Ahahahahaaha !! FULL CLAUSSELL !! I've seen that !!
❤👍
Hey @mojaxx tricky question: we once discussed how the Pioneer V10 was a superb mixer, with an excellent sound quality. How does the SQ of the valve compares with it? Is it worth exchanging it? Does the investment provide augmented returns? Thx as always!
Never mind. Got one, did an A/B comparison and it blew the V10 out of the water.
I am pleasantly surprised that with the Radius Mk2 Valve there are no issues with send return on Pioneer EFX and RMX units unlike previous Mastersounds mixers and Xone mixers where phasing is an issue and master insert was the only way to remedy this problem?
No, there will still be an issue with the RMX units. That's a Pioneer problem, not anyone elses - they only work with inserts.
The EFX-500 and EFX-1000 have dry/wet controls (as an FX unit should) and so work with more mixers, like this one.
Mo glad to see an actual gear review that's not a controller. :) I want to see quality gear that isn't tied to digital files - I'm surprised you don't have Blaster transformer.. that and the decepticon version (I forget his name) was the only 2 I saved from when I was a child in the early 80s.. I still have the tapes that transform to birds.
Question for all you analog DJs. Is there a way to connect an external Serato box but still use the phono preamp on the mixer when playing vinyl?
@@djstucthank you! Makes sense! Will need quality splitters :)
djm s5 for me I just kind of marvel at the pads and the way the pieces fit together
That blue version is the business. Shame there's only 15 of them.
Got to catch ‘em when you can. I got number 01 too 😊
Any owners of the mk 1 upgraded to the mk 2? Is it worth it? Only had mine about 18 months but considering the switch
Same here. I've had my mk1 for about the same time, was thinking of maybe getting the FX unit so I would have use of hp and lp filters in my mixing. I don't mix vinyl, so I would think sound would be pretty much the same as my mk 1
is the sound the same as the mk1?
I owned both. I think it's slightly better.
The only downfall though is Brexit and anyone outside of the UK having to pay import fees, Mastersounds should look at an EU distribution base maybe they would sell much more, That's my personal opinion now. I had to pay almost €500 extra just to get it into Ireland
@@djstuc that's exactly what I should have done
Can you also play shellac, or just vinyl haha? I call them records. That way the material doesn't matter 🌈
i take it that if someone already has the MK1 no point in selling it to get the MK2, correct?
I have a mk1 2v won’t be upgrading but thinking of buying the fx unit
I have a 4V Linear, there are extra things, the filter and the upgraded crossfader but I wouldn’t change mine.
What DJ software is compatiable with the Four Valve MK2 rotary DJ Mixer
it’s fully analogue. you’ll need a separate digital soundcard.
A rotary mixer built for edm and Househeads I don't see hip hop dj's using this mixer.
The SuperStereo DN78 is the best sounding mixer.
First view and comment
I’d sell my least favourite kid for this mixer
2 and a half bags of sand for a posers mixer
Say what you want, but this mixer will hold its value. When I sold my first 4V, I lost like $200. Bucks. Can’t say that about the budget mixers.
But to each his own.
Some people appreciate, audiophile quality and are willing to pay for it.
If you want the best sound quality then you have to pay the money and these sound so much better than anything from Pioneer etc