Personal review of the MasterSounds Two Valve MK2. Please excuse the Echo on the vocals - we will get a Mic for next video! Like / Comment / Subscribe #rotarymixer #djmixer #hifi #mastersounds #review
Thanks for the review! Re your cueing issues, with this mixer unity gain for the channel volumes is all the way clockwise (as opposed to mixers w/o a trim). From the manual: "The rotary ranges from fully off when anti-clockwise to unity gain (0dB) when clockwise. For best performance operate these controls near to their fully clockwise position for normal music level."
Thanks Adrian! As I've played more with the mixer I've realized this is definitely the case - I still prefer stopping around ~4pm - 5pm position for mixing as it feels slightly unnatural / not ergonomic for to me to fully rotate the channel gains although I realize that produces the best sound with this mixer
Just got my four valve mk 2 and was running the channel fader up to 2 oclock (as I was used to) and was sooo surprised by this behaviour, that I actually thought my cue / add mix unit was faulty. Checking the manuel and driving the faders all the way up was a big aha moment for me. Another thing which I was wondering though: If I have a track up and running on lets say channel 2, turn add mix fully on and then hit cue on the up and running channel 2, the sounds then sounds kind of muddy / filtered (while at the same time the vu meter is jumping up). Is it the same behaviour with your units? I guess it's somehow "layering" the cue signal of the channel on top of the "master/add mix" signal, leading to some kind of overdrive which is then internally limited which in turn sounds filtered or something.. Obvsly while mixing "normaly" you would not hit the cue button of the running track while adding mix from another channel via cue; but still, there are some funky behaviours when hitting multiple cue buttons while having add mix turned all the way up (volume/sound shenanigans..) maybe someone can confirm it's normal and not down to my unit :)..
i must have watched the same 2-3 videos here on youtube that actually feature a valve (mk2) about 20 times before buying one. so thanks a lot for contributing another! new press and reviews about these new models are sorely lacking. agree with your general overview. for me, personally, these mk2 valves are a top-tier 'at home' mixer and a great club option by any measure. whilst the 'true' rotary fans and audiophiles might prefer the 's-tier' of isonoe, condesa, alpha recs, etc., for me the added 3 features you mention are just that much more valuable, in day-to-day at home mixing, and when mixing in various styles across my entire record collection. the mixer itself sounds fantastic, too: very much a-tier, in my view, 90% as good as the mastering-grade, fully-discrete options above it. it REALLY all comes down to those extra features: imo the valve mk2's are the best all-in-one option in the rotary game thus far, particularly so if you get the linear PSU (and FX unit, too). it's not quite my end-game mixer and the last one i'll buy for life ... e.g. i'd really love a resor or an isonoe ... but it's also the fact that using one of those notionally 'end-game' rotaries normally involves letting go of useful features in exchange for 'that' sound, such as filters, an FX system, a cross-fader, etc. for me, being able to play with a high-pass filter or cross-fader at home is far more important than having the truly best-of-the-best sound; the fixation in rotary circles on pure audio quality somewhat misses the point that, for most, they won't have the included club system or high-end hi-fi to even take advantage of the difference. though i can see why a club owner or promoter might care about the difference when putting together their ideal booth! all in all these are superb mixers and anyone should be happy with one! any buying decision for a rotary mixer will surely come down heavily to personal preferences over things like the isolator's character, the design and layout, any preferred sound or coloration, the price/delivery time/service location (not a trivial consideration if you're looking at a 6 month wait time and the only service centre being a 3 month international freight trip away).
Totally agree with your summary here as well - this mixer gives you a lot for your investment without having to “sacrifice” much in terms of sound quality (if at all!)
I agree as a urei 1620 with custom linear power supply And a xone V6 Among other xone mixers. I have to agree that the isonoe, ressor 2533fx or ars 9100b are in them selfs awesome but the mastersounds give you such a clean sound and the sculpting ability you get with the filter per channel is so greaton the radius line and on the VALVE line Even more because it now has filter that mid way engages the resonance like the xone 62 /92/96 but also can boost or cut frequencies like on a playdifferently model 1. Only thing Missing now is to incorporate a low pass filter per channel. High pass and low pass filter per channel would be killer i tell you. It is what i had custom made for my urei 1620le. Ahhhh and Last! I think the radius line of mixers deserve an upgrade with volume led meters per channel like the big brother V2 V4 line of mixers have! Why you favoring one ofer the other. Id rather buy a radius ful set Than a V4 set but those led bother me that do not exist so im forced to get the V4 only because im bothered. Anyway.
@@RobAlahn if that was directed at me: simply because it was for my home setup, and i only have two vinyl turntables. even if i added 2 CDJs (which aren't worth the money for at home, imo; i keep to DVS for digital dj'ing), i would just switch between phono and line inputs on the 2 channels. i rarely ever need 3/4 deck mixing when i'm just playing at home. not worth the extra expense, to me personally. would rather get the linear power supply or the FX unit - you'd get much more practical use out of those than with two extra channels sitting silent for 95% of the time. if you're playing jeff mills @ liquid rooms 3/4 deck blends a lot in your own mixing style, then the 4 channel definitely makes sense, however!
Man, you might want to consider investing in acoustic panels to tame that reverb cavern a bit. Will make a ton of difference in your ability to perceive the sound coming out of your speakers.
Hey Bern , good luck with your new channel . I have a Radius 2 from MS . It is also a greta mixer , so nice to use and top sound quality. If I ever go for another mixer it will be the 2 Valve .
Thank you! The Radius 2 is an excellent mixer as well - love the minimal mixing style focused on HPF mixing :) The Valve 2 gives you a few more options for mixing but sometimes less can be more on the mix ;-)
I do have the same mixer. A huge MasterSounds fan. And yes please use AirPods or buy a pair of RODE wireless MIC I just did and audio quality has so much improved on my channels. And I agree great customer experience from them
Nice video. Subscribed! Yes, I am no Grand Master Flash (showing my age...), but I am a big advocate of a cross fader. Glad they upgraded to an Innofader. I hear you on the debate of gains / no gains, as traditional rotaries have gain built into the channel faders. I think it allows just a bit more nuance than just treating a rotary pot like an upfader. The feature set here IS hard to beat though, especially for those newer to the game who don't have much old school experience.
Somewhat - it would be nice to not have to switch between line and phono when using CDJs and turntables but my budget wouldn’t allow it at the time to go 4V! The last few units are selling fast so grab one now if you can :-)
Thanks for the review! Re your cueing issues, with this mixer unity gain for the channel volumes is all the way clockwise (as opposed to mixers w/o a trim). From the manual: "The rotary ranges from fully off when anti-clockwise to unity gain (0dB) when
clockwise. For best performance operate these controls near to their fully clockwise position for
normal music level."
Thanks Adrian! As I've played more with the mixer I've realized this is definitely the case - I still prefer stopping around ~4pm - 5pm position for mixing as it feels slightly unnatural / not ergonomic for to me to fully rotate the channel gains although I realize that produces the best sound with this mixer
Just got my four valve mk 2 and was running the channel fader up to 2 oclock (as I was used to) and was sooo surprised by this behaviour, that I actually thought my cue / add mix unit was faulty. Checking the manuel and driving the faders all the way up was a big aha moment for me.
Another thing which I was wondering though:
If I have a track up and running on lets say channel 2, turn add mix fully on and then hit cue on the up and running channel 2, the sounds then sounds kind of muddy / filtered (while at the same time the vu meter is jumping up). Is it the same behaviour with your units?
I guess it's somehow "layering" the cue signal of the channel on top of the "master/add mix" signal, leading to some kind of overdrive which is then internally limited which in turn sounds filtered or something..
Obvsly while mixing "normaly" you would not hit the cue button of the running track while adding mix from another channel via cue; but still, there are some funky behaviours when hitting multiple cue buttons while having add mix turned all the way up (volume/sound shenanigans..) maybe someone can confirm it's normal and not down to my unit :)..
i must have watched the same 2-3 videos here on youtube that actually feature a valve (mk2) about 20 times before buying one. so thanks a lot for contributing another! new press and reviews about these new models are sorely lacking.
agree with your general overview. for me, personally, these mk2 valves are a top-tier 'at home' mixer and a great club option by any measure. whilst the 'true' rotary fans and audiophiles might prefer the 's-tier' of isonoe, condesa, alpha recs, etc., for me the added 3 features you mention are just that much more valuable, in day-to-day at home mixing, and when mixing in various styles across my entire record collection. the mixer itself sounds fantastic, too: very much a-tier, in my view, 90% as good as the mastering-grade, fully-discrete options above it. it REALLY all comes down to those extra features: imo the valve mk2's are the best all-in-one option in the rotary game thus far, particularly so if you get the linear PSU (and FX unit, too). it's not quite my end-game mixer and the last one i'll buy for life ... e.g. i'd really love a resor or an isonoe ... but it's also the fact that using one of those notionally 'end-game' rotaries normally involves letting go of useful features in exchange for 'that' sound, such as filters, an FX system, a cross-fader, etc. for me, being able to play with a high-pass filter or cross-fader at home is far more important than having the truly best-of-the-best sound; the fixation in rotary circles on pure audio quality somewhat misses the point that, for most, they won't have the included club system or high-end hi-fi to even take advantage of the difference. though i can see why a club owner or promoter might care about the difference when putting together their ideal booth!
all in all these are superb mixers and anyone should be happy with one! any buying decision for a rotary mixer will surely come down heavily to personal preferences over things like the isolator's character, the design and layout, any preferred sound or coloration, the price/delivery time/service location (not a trivial consideration if you're looking at a 6 month wait time and the only service centre being a 3 month international freight trip away).
Totally agree with your summary here as well - this mixer gives you a lot for your investment without having to “sacrifice” much in terms of sound quality (if at all!)
I agree as a urei 1620 with custom linear power supply
And a xone V6
Among other xone mixers.
I have to agree that the isonoe, ressor 2533fx or ars 9100b are in them selfs awesome but the mastersounds give you such a clean sound and the sculpting ability you get with the filter per channel is so greaton the radius line and on the VALVE line Even more because it now has filter that mid way engages the resonance like the xone 62 /92/96 but also can boost or cut frequencies like on a playdifferently model 1.
Only thing Missing now is to incorporate a low pass filter per channel.
High pass and low pass filter per channel would be killer i tell you.
It is what i had custom made for my urei 1620le.
Ahhhh and Last!
I think the radius line of mixers deserve an upgrade with volume led meters per channel like the big brother V2 V4 line of mixers have!
Why you favoring one ofer the other.
Id rather buy a radius ful set Than a V4 set but those led bother me that do not exist so im forced to get the V4 only because im bothered.
Anyway.
Awesome review. I’m curious what if any reason/s you had in buying the 2 channel instead of the 4 channel?
@@RobAlahn if that was directed at me: simply because it was for my home setup, and i only have two vinyl turntables. even if i added 2 CDJs (which aren't worth the money for at home, imo; i keep to DVS for digital dj'ing), i would just switch between phono and line inputs on the 2 channels. i rarely ever need 3/4 deck mixing when i'm just playing at home. not worth the extra expense, to me personally. would rather get the linear power supply or the FX unit - you'd get much more practical use out of those than with two extra channels sitting silent for 95% of the time. if you're playing jeff mills @ liquid rooms 3/4 deck blends a lot in your own mixing style, then the 4 channel definitely makes sense, however!
Great content! Learned a lot. Nice speakers behind you! Next review vid? 👀
wow thank you for going over everything in your review! it was super helpful 🤗
So want this mixer! I got their FX Unit (2nd gen)....love it...
Removal/upgradable tubes would be dope...
I think tube rolling on a mixer like this would be a blast ! Hopefully future models let you do this
Nice t-shirt ! Love Azymuth
good luck man, here for the journey of your new channel!
Thank you for the nice and concise review. Will have to look into getting one of my own.
Nice review! - subscribed
Thanks !
Amazing Bern, keep up the good work! very helpful
Thanks, will do! New content coming soon
Oh, Nice touch with the Azymuth shirt!
Man, you might want to consider investing in acoustic panels to tame that reverb cavern a bit. Will make a ton of difference in your ability to perceive the sound coming out of your speakers.
And a lapel mic for your spoken audio, it would be a massive improvement
Yeah, with those acoustics, it really doesn't matter how good a mixer is, lol
This is true - if you guys have any recommendations on panels please share - its a bit of a struggle taming the reverb in this room
Hey Bern , good luck with your new channel . I have a Radius 2 from MS . It is also a greta mixer , so nice to use and top sound quality. If I ever go for another mixer it will be the 2 Valve .
Thank you! The Radius 2 is an excellent mixer as well - love the minimal mixing style focused on HPF mixing :)
The Valve 2 gives you a few more options for mixing but sometimes less can be more on the mix ;-)
Really nice insightful view! You have a new subscriber :)
Awesome, thank you!
Hi nice review
i hesitate between this one and ecler warm 2.
what's name of speakers behind you ?
JBL L-100 Classic 75 :-)
I would luv to get this mixer, but I don't really mix with vinyl records anymore. Serato Killed Dat!!!
I do have the same mixer. A huge MasterSounds fan. And yes please use AirPods or buy a pair of RODE wireless MIC I just did and audio quality has so much improved on my channels. And I agree great customer experience from them
Thank you! Just bought a lapel mic so hopefully next video sounds better
Love your speakers, they look like they'll play 30hz flat😊
Yes they do! Great frequency response
This is great man! Keep it up
Thanks, will do!
Nice video. Subscribed! Yes, I am no Grand Master Flash (showing my age...), but I am a big advocate of a cross fader. Glad they upgraded to an Innofader. I hear you on the debate of gains / no gains, as traditional rotaries have gain built into the channel faders. I think it allows just a bit more nuance than just treating a rotary pot like an upfader. The feature set here IS hard to beat though, especially for those newer to the game who don't have much old school experience.
Thank you for your comment. Definitely agree this mixer is full of great features :-)
Can you play external fx and or guitar pedals with it?
I believe you can using the FX send / return although have not tried it yet
Get a close mic! otherwise, great video
great review! question, where in the US can it be bought?
You can order it from the Mastersounds website and they’ll ship it to the US directly - I was surprised how fast shipping was !
@@BernsAddiction thanks again man
very doubtful to 'pull the trigger' on 2V or 4V.. had you any regret to got 2V instead 4V?
Somewhat - it would be nice to not have to switch between line and phono when using CDJs and turntables but my budget wouldn’t allow it at the time to go 4V! The last few units are selling fast so grab one now if you can :-)
@@BernsAddiction I missed this mixer..😢😢😢
is the silver colour the same as the 1200 or is it off? thanks
It’s very close - I think mixer is slightly darker and a bit shinier than the decks but overall they look great together !
Nice one, i want to get this mixer in few months.
Highly recommend it :)