Ford Power Steering Teflon Seal Install No Special Tools
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มี.ค. 2014
- In this video I show you how to size and install the Teflon seal found on almost all Ford power steering lines especially at the power steering pump itself.
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Thanks for making this video, Sir. I coated my seal, as per instructions, then I gently stretched it over a 3/8" socket extension, for several minutes. Then I applied it to the HP line out, per your instructions. Worked great. Thanks for a great video.
Excellent video!I recently replaced a PS pump on a 2002 Taurus 3.0 DOHC and I wasn't certain how to treat the Teflon seal so I unfortunately damaged it. I was able to find replacements at Advance auto, Dorman part #82540 and replaced the damaged one yesterday. The critical part in your video is waiting until it shrinks. That few minutes I waited made the difference between a small leak and zero leaks. Thanks again.
Thank you for posting this, it helped tremendously after I attempted this after installing a new PS pump and getting it wrong, crushing the new teflon ring beyond recognition and use. I wish I had seen your video before doing this, but all it well. I ended up using a 1/2 extension bar which stretch it out to just the right size instead of my thumbs, but still run it down the threads like you demonstrate here. Thank you for posting this!
Thank you for the video. I also used the 3/8 inch extension like Gary below - but placed the seal and extension in hot water - seal stretched a bit easier on the extension to fit over the threads.
THx 4 posting this vid. I to ruined the seal on my 1st try. Now I know better!
Worked great for me. I found a box of them on amazon for $11. First one went on easy. No leaks. Thanks.
Thank you. Had trouble starting it, used a 3/8" drive ten millimeter to gently get it to start, then your technique.
excellent video! Just the info I needed. thank you!
A lot easier than heating up the ring, Thanks for this video
Thank you so much for teaching me I've definitely learned so much from you ...
Thanks this is what I thought I had to do but I didn't want to brake it 😊
Thanks for the video! You just saved me from buying a new line.
thank you so so much str8 to the point I've boiled them b4 but this was so informative i did mine in 10 seconds thank you so much Brother
The first one I ever installed was on a 2001 Mercury Sable 3.0. The instructions said to put the seal in a cup of hot water for a few minutes then stretch it over a large tapered punch until it will fit over the treads and then walk it down like in the video. The trick is to not get it stretch to big where it will almost just drop down over the treads.
The little tricks thanks brother this going to help tonight
Great tip, thanks for sharing your knowledge. I will be doing this on my 03 Ranger as it's leaking from that area on the pump side
GREAT TIP,THX FOR POSTING!
Great Video, I just had to replace mine on my 03 Ranger V6, this came in very helpful indeed. Thank You
Where to get the Teflon Seal? Part#? I need to do this on my Ranger.
Same question, part number would be helpful, thanks.
Cool.... been going nuts to install this one.....
If you have a hard time getting the seal,go to local HVAC supply and ask for one. HVAC uses them on evap coil liquid line connection on alot of residential equipment. Hell ask an ac man he's probably got several on his truck.
How tight do you tighten that fitting? Can you tighten it until it bottoms out or will it spit out that seal?
worked like a champ...
Mine worked by starting the nylon ring on to match the angle of the threads and then spin it down letting it follows the threads like tightening a nut on a bolt
your the man!
Good video!
Got my hose with a baggie including threaded part. I put Teflon gasket threaded it and tried to insert the hose. Loose. Do I need to pop it on the line before then thread it? (Aka the threaded part wasn't already attached. Ford f150 xlt 2010)
For 2002 Ford Escort, SOHC 2.0L. If the metal high pressure line is loose on the fitting; i.e. doesn't tighten when tightening the fitting to the pump, is the high pressure line worn out?
My son replaced a water pump in an '07 Focus 2.0 recently. A couple of days later it started blowing fluid out around the bottom of the pump and foaming out of the lid when the engine is stopped. We didn't know exactly where the leak was coming from, but found that this o-ring was broken. We bought a pump seal kit. The smallest white plastic ring in the kit fits looser than the one in the video. Not sure if it is going to work. How big of a deal is it if the ring is in the right place, but not snug?
I have ford focus 2000 single lx, what makes the power steering switch leaking so fast? I change it like 3 months ago brand new, by the way, is the second one, and is leaking again! is that may be any line clogged?
Thank you Nice video ..
Have seen many people discuss this topic in TCCA. Now I really understand the problem and its solution. Thank you. If possible, may you shoot one video for replacing the cracked break line? You have mentioned this many times during your show. Thank you
One Day.
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A snap on semi deep socket works well too. You just match the base diameter w the threads. I think i used a 10mm last time
I just replaced the ps pump on my 99 F250 Light Duty. It came with a black o-ring and the white Teflon ring. I just used the black o-ring...do you think this will be an issue down the road? It was a nightmare threading that hose into the mounted pump!
What about torque specs? Or how much of a turn do we tighten after hand tightened?
Thanks for the video
What is the part number for the Teflon seals? I need one for the return line that goes to the rack and pinion on a 2005 Taurus.
is it easier to put the pump in first then push the line in or the put line on first and fish it in ???
Love the videos. Your the only one out there with the nylon seal change on the power steering pump. I do have a question for you. I have 2000 Mustang GT with Power boost brakes int he mix. I have tried bleeding the system a thousand times and tried many different ways. I can hear air in the rack when hitting the stops on each end of the rack and it makes a wheering sound when I step on the brakes and the noise comes from the power boost unit. I tried everything to get the air out of the system and no luck. I have checked everything and there are no leaks anywhere that are visible, no fluid coming from anything. I had changed the timing cover due to someone breaking the tensioner pulley mounting point off. and when I put everything back together and tried bleeding the power steering and power boost I get nowhere. I did the trick back and forth withe engine off a few hundred times while pressing the brakes 3 times in between sets of five turning the wheel. I am so frustrated and getting nowhere. Do you have any suggestions on this. It would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for the short novel.
That o-ring worked haha but ill definatly try this method next time... I hate jimmy-rigging stuff haha! Thanks for the vid!!!
Good to hear!
How tight should the high pressure hose fitting be torqued to the power steering pump?
Thank you luckily I stopped before I ruined the new one and watched this video explaining it. All data has nothing
I have a 1990 ford f150 with rear antilock sign on I replaced the sensor on rear axle but it antilock sign is still on, I was wondering if I should replace abs module and what's the order of bleeding the brakes is it from rear left and work my way around to the drivers front and also would I bleed the module in that procedure I appreciate any help you can send my way thank you
great video, any way you try it, it's still like my daddy use to say.........trying to stretch a gnat's ass over a rain barrel!! lol
Thank you Bro!!
Great vid...I wrap threads with electricians tape to help let it slide over threads...
Ford sells the fitting as a single replaceable part. I can see an internal snap ring on the new fitting but can't seem to get the old one off. Is it possible to just change the line to pump fitting?
Hi, what is diameter of the o ring? I'm trying to find out and order before changing. (Ford fiesta mk5 2008)
for a explorer can you just replace the seal inside a rack and pinion is leakin on one side of tie tod. thank u sir.
How tight should one tighten the seal ? On late model fords
Is there an oring inside the high pressure port on the pump?
On a 2000 Continental Rack&Pinion, curious why the reman units DO come with new white Teflon O-rings, but DO NOT come with the black Teflon O-rings that one might need when swapping the AUXILLARY ACTUATOR ASSY from the old rack to the new one.
I like to heat up the top of a large tapered punch with a torch and submerge the punch in hot water from the tap to cool it down to a reasonable temp. Then i just work the seal up the punch until its just large enough to drop it over the threads.
Can bad ball joints and bad joints make a power steering to atart gling bad?
Thanks for the video! My fitting is leaking not at the pump side (outer side) of the fitting but between the fitting and the tube. Do you know what the cause of that is? The fitting is as tight as it can be but the tube in the fitting wobbles a little.
ford sells just the nut. the nut on the end has internal oring inside of it. there is also a snap ring to hold it on. you can remove the nut by cutting thro it almost all the way CAREFULLY. then use a flat screwdriver to twist it off.
Hi Bryan..Best regards Bud..
I have learned a good amount from your videos..Thank you! But now I am stuck with a leaking power steering pump from an 2008 mustang. Someone replaced the pump and the pressure hose won't stop leaking. I've installed the Teflon ring at the fitting..and still leaking. Is there some kind of seal inside the pump where the pressure line bumps after is tight?
+Daniel Gomez If it is leaking from the center then the line must be replace. If it is leaking from the threads and it's not cross threaded it should just be the Teflon seal.
How do u take it off I’m trynna put o ring on
The Ford/Lincoln dealer and the HELP line by Dorman sells the wrong (or a smaller size seal) that is very difficult to install without damaging it. I found this out when I purchased a power steering pressure line and a power steering pump. They came with a little larger seal that worked just right and wasn't hard to get on and no more leak. FYI. Why Ford/Lincoln came up with a different way to seal the pressure hose at the pump when we have a proven method to accomplish this in a double flare or o-ring seal is beyond me.
That is what I also thought. I think plumbers gas line dope should work.
I can not see how that Teflon ring can work anyway? There is no clamping force at that edge.
Well I did one today and I just got a 3/8 socket 3/8 drive, pushed the seal on the work end and slid it to the drive end. let it sit a few seconds and pushed it off and it pittered it right on. I did have to thread it a sming but went right on.
Hi awesome video, 2 questions
I bought the line a came with 2 fittings,
how do i know which to use
An how do i take the fitting of the line
Thank you sir for making this video. It was absolutely awesome. It answered my exact specific question. I just replaced my pump I found the old Teflon seal / O-ring in the middle of the threads (like three threads back from the beginning) Strangely enough. And I had other friends tell me to put it back in the same spot as if it was some type of thread sealant. Go figure. Anyway the new pump comes with two O-rings. (One white Teflon, and one smaller rubber black O ring which I assume is not used on my particular model. The instructions are probably printed in China. They are very vague and short worded. They don't tell you whether you're supposed to use one or the other, or both. But I assumed it was one or the other. Thanks again. :)
I have the same seals included with my new Rock Auto pump. Did you ever figure out where the black O ring goes?
Same question… let me know if you ever find out
@@joshh345 The black O ring isn't needed or required anywhere so I threw it out. The white teflon seal does the job and me new RockAuto pump isn't leaking at all.
Can this be also done on other types of vehicles like Chevrolet or Dodge?
Thank you!
Bought a after market power steering pump for 2003 ford winstar 3.8 came with 2 seals white and one smaller black have any idea where black one goes? Also high pressure hose coming out of power steering pump has play after I tighten it is this normal?
Saul Olvera Just use the white one the size in my video that is all that is needed, yes the line will swing back and forth and have a little wobble to it.
Thanks a lot!!!
Off topic but how hard is it to change a powersteering hose in the 6.0? It's the hose that connects up by the master cylinder. Also how do I find that ford part number? Thanks!
Ok so you need the one from the power steering pump to hydroboost right? Your Ford dealer can tell you what the part number is over the phone just explain it as I have pump to hydroboost pressure line. I have changed a few in the past and don't recall them being too bad at all.
I have been searching for this dang seal all day. Anyone know what the part number is for the pressure seal on the pump? working on a 2008 ford focus. I found parts number for the orings. Steering seals:
Reservoir x2 12.5mm 6S4Z-3F886-A
Steering rack x1 7.5mm 3L2Z-3F886-AA
Steering rack x1 6mm 3L2Z-3F886-BA
Possibly # 82540 is the number but I don't think so. My pump is all metal might be different. When you search make sure to use '''''Forum''''' with your car.
Hi I put that same seal on my 2001Ford Windstar when I replaced the pump, why does it still leak?
because its fords better idea COUGH COUGH COUGH never buyng a new ford product but that a intake manifold story and a class action lawsuit ford lost
@@loviedebiasio8864 you talking about the intake runner valves failing on one bank on the 5.0s?
@@12mak no the front water crossover on the intake manifold. was origianally composite but they failed on the 4.6l
Does anyone know what size teflon oring this is?
Every single job on a Ford needs some special tool/procedure. They really don't want people to DIY in my opinion.
That’s the truth! It’s ridiculous!
@@danad401 you two haven't worked on german cars if you think ford is bad.
@@AbcAbc-sp1od Ugh!
I work on my fords myself, a 2002 7.3 Powerstroke and a 2003 6.0 Powerstroke. I get by most every with regular tools and find a way around the special ones in most cases.
When I was gonna change the oil in my girlfriend’s 4RUNNER, that knocked me for a loop that there’s a special tool for the oil filter. So it’s pretty much all manufacturers these days trying to knock out the DIY folks.
@@TX_BigSpit I have an 05 triton v8. Haven't needed a single special tool for it yet! But you're right... Every new car nowadays is getting rid of diy.
where do you get the teflon seals?
Thanks for info, The auto parts stores are not that helpful, as how to install it, I think they just wanted me to put it the small one on the end which didn't make sense as its a flared
got mine in the help section add to white ones one is a little smaller I had to use the larger one and got it on without breaking it. removing the high pressure nut of pump was a bitch was torqued on there, so i think you do tighten it up the most with a regular ratchet right Boss? also is there an internal rubber washer behind the nut, if so have you been able to change it or just cut off the flared end remove bolt and re-flare the pipe?
Yes, there's an o-ring inside the nut, which is what seals the tube/nut interface. The white teflon washer seals the nut to pump interface. I did quite a bit of searching and never found a solution, other than replacing the hose.
How can I fix a leak from same line between that nut and line
Good question, I have the same.
thanks!
I use a deep well socket and run hot water on the seal to warm it up some and slide on the socket and slide off the socket onto the hose fitting
Has anyone replaced the entire nut? How did you do it?
Your a G. Ty
Does Dorman make a replacement seal for this hose? Mine is broken...
Yes they do. You can get them at Advanced Auto Parts. P/N 82540
Now I know why my mom didn't like me biting my nails.
My 2008 Taurus SEL is leaking right at the pressure line connection at the rack. Is there a Teflon washer in this location too?
If it’s not this style then it has an o-ring yes
@@FordTechMakuloco The part number for the hose is 8G1Z3a719C, PSH35, PSH387, or 9G1Z3A719B. Not sure which is the current number. I don't think it looks the same as yours. But the leak is at the press fit area where it pushes into the rack and is held in by a flat piece of metal. This metal "bracket" (or hold plate...whatever you want to call it) also holds another hose into the rack. So the end I'm referring to isn't a threaded fitting. I think it's just a push-in fitting that the bracket clamp thing keeps tight. I haven't taken it apart yet so that's why I don't know exactly how it looks. I can't have the car down for long so I need to repair it at the same time I disassemble it. Thanks for your help!!
Quick question, would you still need to apply Teflon tape over the thread or will the seal do it?
no need
@@FordTechMakuloco oh no...I just did that. Gonna remove it asap
Where do I get one of these seals in NZ ??I can’t find them
You guys don't have Autozone or other parts stores
Maybe a Ford dealership.
Where can I buy the o rings ford tried giving me rubber ones
Would PTFE tape work instead, it’s the same material after all?
I wonder this to. I actually put some on but couldn't get it to screw together. I ran the pump dry hopefully it still ok. I am going to try hooking it up with the teflon ring and do that.
I got it to work be the grace of Jesus. I used a teflon ring and some warm water. I was worried it became to soft after the water because it moved easy after all the way down. That is a tight fitting area and my pump doesn't seem burnt. I like power steering. 200000 miles on my 05 Focus and about twenty thousand of those are mine😁
way cool I'm trying to do this now on a Ford ranger.....where did u get the washers at? every auto parts store and hardware store in my town only has nylon.....oh and what size? 16 mm??
+Topher well working at the dealer at the time I got them from the parts department but I would only use the Ford seals anyway they are just the right size. I should have the part number or link to the part in the video description
FordTechMakuloco okay thanks, I'll check into it. it's the last thing I need to hook up now😂😂
Dorman 82540
Amazing
2009 Ford F-350 5.4l power steering fluid leaks from under drivers side dashboard
Does that teflon washer have to used and not a rubber one?
yes
Any idea about the torque for a 96 town car? Someone told me 14 inch pounds, other Ford forums say 22 ft lbs. I'm on my 4th one and still have leaks! New line and pump. Driving me crazy.
26-34 lb-ft is the official spec.
@@FordTechMakuloco thank you so much.
2000 DOHC Sable. The seal is the easy part. Removing the hose is a mechanics nitemare. At the pump end, what type of special crowsfoot does Ford use? At the rack end, can't even find the end. Like to know what the dealership quotes for labor charges on this hose.
BS design. Will never buy a Ford product unless its an old T Bird or Mustang.
hey Brian the kit that I got with the pump (Napa) came with the Teflon seal and an o-ring. does the o-ring seat inside the pump at the HP fitting? cuz that's where I have it. Couldn't figure out what to do with the Teflon seal cuz of zero instructions so I tossed it. The threads had remnants of Teflon tape but I omitted it thing the o-ring was sufficient but now it's leaking and I almost bought a new hose till I see this! I'm going to advance Auto and get that seal and try your method.
I am currently having the same problem. Did that black o ring go on the tip or no? I don't see any info about a second o ring.
Did y’all ever find out the answer to the mysterious black o-ring?
And if i cant change the seal inside
Damn forgot to do this when changing the the rack n pinon, this is probably why its leaking
Where's the smaller diameter white nylon like ring go that the dealer gave me and the "help" kits have? Is that the one that's around the line under the threaded fitting that is spoke about in the post by tee brown down below about 5 months ago?
Ive replaced now going on 10 of these and can't get the damn thing to stop leaking. Its on a 2001 Ford Escape 3.0v6. I have no clue what I am doing wrong but every one of these seals leak
Many thanks! I've been trying to get seals on my Lincoln and I keep destroying them. I wasn't letting them relax like you say. Do you have a video on fixing stripped bolt holes in aluminum parts, perhaps?
No I don't sorry
+FordTechMakuloco. do you know if ford makes a tool for removing the nut without cutting it.
Fixing holes in aluminum parts is easy. If it's a blind hole drill it up a size and use a helicoil with red loctite. If it's a thru hole use a rivnut. They make aluminum rivnuts that pull flush on both sides.
Thank You. I was wondering about this. Installed it on the inside first and it leaked just a little bit.
did it work?
@@thomasnyanfore8424 Yes it did.
If you are sliding the seal down the bare threads you are causing microscopic slices on the seal and it may fail prematurely. I would put tape all around the threads first and then slide the seal down with power steering fluid.
These seals actually get crushed and squeeze out when the fitting is tightened, how are microscopic scratches in the seal going to affect it?
The new pump for my '96 F-150 came with this seal and an O ring which is a bit smaller in diameter than the Teflon seal. Where does the O ring go?
I figured it out. The black butyl O ring goes in file 13, the garbage, as it isn't used anywhere. The brand new offshore pump is working perfectly. No leaks, easy steering, and no whining noise like the original and reman pumps did.
Ever figure out that it’s for then? Been searching for this answer for awhile.. haha. Same issue on the 07 power steering pump. Teflon seal and black o ring with no mention of that black o ring anywhere..
@@joshh345 My new pump from Rock Auto was made in China so the builders probably don't know what it's for either and probably just threw it in for good luck or to confuse us. Go with the white Teflon seal only and you'll be good.
@@mumbles552 thanks man, just threw it in 2 hours ago with only the Teflon seal. Hopefully she doesn’t leak 👍🏽
The fact they dont just make these with a regular ass hydraulic fitting like everything else it would all be so much easier.
FYI The Ford/Lincoln dealer will more than likely sell you the wrong sealing washer. Something wrong with there parts lookup. There are two sizes of washers. My Lincoln LS takes the larger one. These are available from the Dorman help products. Part number 82540.