So, my dad grew up in Danforth, ME, which is only like half an hour from Vanceboro. And after watching this video for the first time, I asked my grandmother (my dad's mom) about this event, and she told me the entire story from my grandfather's father's perspective. Gerald Greene, I believe his name was, and as it turned out, he was the one of the railroad policemen that took Werner Horn into custody. As a matter of fact, it was his very first day on the job. Later, in 1917, he was drafted into the army, and fought in the trenches. After my grandfather was born in 1938, he was drafted again into the army in 1941 and was assigned as a tank engineer in North Africa. He rose to the position of tank commander, and after the war in Africa was over, he was transferred to Operation Overlord during the D-Day invasion. He stormed Omaha Beach in the 3rd wave, and he was told to leave all of his kit on the boat, because he would find everything he needed on the beach from dead soldiers.
Well I guess that's evidence against Hitler. He was never going to succeed in his "third reich", not with Von "Failed-to-get-a-single-bridge-blown-up-in-the-last-war" as his vice chancelor. He's probably the one who suggested they try to double cross the Soviets and invade them during the Winter, because his last Winter Ops went so well.
As a guy from Germany I just have to say... This is just awsome ! Your imitaion of the German language / talking made me laught so hard ! Love your content Hyce !
“Imperial German accidentally makes a key mistake by assuming the train timetable is accurate” just (pardon the pun) tracks so well. Also if kAN ever comes down to the Museum, get him on the show with a trash can helmet to cover his face if he doesn’t want to show it
Kan has shown his face many times. He used to stream, and you can go watch his April fool's scrap mechanic video with scrapman. He has a face cam in an MS paint version of the gear like scrapman has
Always love these fun episodes and learning/laughing along with “Citation Needed”. I’ll see if there’s any fun stories from the Wilmington & Western and the Rockton & Rion to submit for the next season.
These 3/4 idiot shows ROCK. They never fail to leave me laughing SERIOUSLY hard. Sometimes I even forget to breathe, I'm laughing so hard. Whenever the limes come out, I start laughing, and at the end I always exclaim "HYCE!" If you four hadn't been museum railroaders you DEFINITELY could have been a comedy act! I could DEFINITELY go for more Citation Needed.
On a side note, my dad owns the exact same brand of engine lift that sits behind Leighton. Love these videos, so sad to see season two end, so excited to see season three. Can’t wait to see who the next special guest is.❤
Thatt happened twice?? i knew about Eugene Flucky who commanded a submarine in ww2 named the USS Barbus (Barb), and they ratioed a lot of the japanese navy as well as going "see that train that just went into that jap port? yea? i dont wanna see it". but please do tell im intrigued
@@mikefilipkowski5445 It didn’t sink an locomotive, but the crew from the ship did make an on-shore attack against an enemy train and it was credited as a “k!ll”.
@@mikefilipkowski5445 not sure about the Gato but the way the electrician on the USS Barbus did it was hook up the scuttle charge to a pressure switch, go out in the middle of the night, plant it, run like hell, and wait. train went ~200 ft in the air cuz 65 pounds of raw tnt, and went in the drink
So cool to see Hyce and the other 3/4 of an idiot cover a topic involving my province! I was wondering why Vanceboro sounded familiar.. it's right across the border from the rail hub of McAdam, New Brunswick, which has a STUNNING chateau-style railway station/hotel that the small town just restored recently. Also, all the railroading Hyce brought me into inspired me to take a book out of the local library on the rail history of my New Brunswick - it is expansive for such a small province! So many interesting stories. From milling tycoons building loads of narrow-gauge to profit from the government subsidy of land-for-rail-mile, to trying to build a rail line from the Bay of Fundy to the St. Lawrence to bypass the winter ice, to building a SHIP RAILWAY to CARRY WHOLE SHIPS 25KM OVER LAND from the Bay of Fundy to the Northumberland Strait (the Chignecto Ship Railway) and more.. it's so cool knowing all of this happened here! A shame it all got torn up in the 80s.. P.S. No Brett, it's in New Brunswick, not Newfoundland! Newfoundland's the island on the far far eastern end, and was still an independent British colony at the time believe it or not. You probably got mixed up with their St. John's vs our Saint John.. it happens a lot..
Film these during open hours as a new museum special event? I'd pay good money to watch this live... Assuming I was anywhere remotely close to Colorado. XD
Most definitely. Four hour flight, over an hour on RTD, and a heck of a walk. Absolutely worth it for this. Then again, it would certainly be different if hosted anywhere but the roundhouse or a pub, the dozens of others around them notwithstanding.
Love the story! The Demoman joke reminded me of a locomotive that appears in TF2 that apparently is currently at the Colorado Railroad museum. DRGW #50 if I’m correct.
Finally something related to war! Thank you for the bell 346! And a question for you hyce, what is your favorite bass guitar and standard electric guitar.
By far some of the most entertaining railroad/history/preservation content on TH-cam. The 3/4 gang vibe so well with each other and can do well with whoever the (un)lucky fourth happens to be. Can't wait for more Citation Needed, Two of these People are Lying, and 3/4 Idiots!
38:37 Actually "Three quarters of these people are idiots" would be the perfect title for this imo - clear Tom Scott reference, but it is a different vibe, and also a nice reference to the three quarters joke. And the last quarter is whoever is currently giving the correct answer :P
love citation needed always look forward to them, but getting the second one makes me a little sad cause that means no new 3/4 idiots episodes for a while.
This was awesome lol! I believe Brett is 4 for 4 on the Citation Needed shows. As always, great job and hopefully there will be another season of the 3/4 Idiot Show soon.
We need to see slow-mo shot of limes exploding after beeing hit by Bret's machete! Style points if the fragments hits somebody's face (watching act of slashing vigorously on a table levlel or in the air) :D Also an advice- just tie longer string to a bell cord ;)
Something cool is the newfoundland railway was actually narrow gauge so I order to get to St John you had to change gauge on New Brunswick also newfoundland wasn't part of Canada at that point
Not a very noteworthy story but a good friend of mine was a higher-up for the C&NW and later UP (he’s retired and now runs the interurbans at the IRM). He was telling me of a picture that hung up on a wall in an office in Chicago of a C&NW stack train that got stuck under a bridge with a sign that said “no stack trains”. It’s probably in a box somewhere in the dungeons of the Union Pacific HQ now lol
Omg, you idiots absolutely hilarious! Hollywood couldn’t improve on the looniness of that story! Thanks Mark for another “idiotic” season (my lime shield is up 🤣)! Looking forward to the next season’s installments! Cheers to you all.
11:10 Bridge between Canada and Maine, that would make the Canadian Province either Quebec or New Brunswick, but having looked up Vanceboro I have determined it is the latter Also I can't tell if that's what he was going for, but Leighton nailed the Maritime Canadian accent for "It's just a bridge buddy"
I have a suggestion for a future Citation Needed for an incident near my area over 100 years ago, but all I have is newspaper articles, not an official incident report from any investigation agency. A: would that be enough?, And B: if so, where shall I send it? Loved this story, and the hijinks of the 3/4 of an idiot crew. Can't wait for next season!
17:26 worth pointing out that imperial germany was a police state like most european nations and very much unlike the USA. Yeah, search and seizure and probable cause laws were veeeery different back then, but he was probably thinking that being a newcomer to the town the police would at some point seek him out and demand to see inside his suitcase
346 has such a lovely sounding bell. Such a great addition to this fantastic nonsense Hyce, you should have kept your moustache just for this occasion-wax it to look like Kaiser Wilhelm 😂
You got a couple timeline details wrong or didn't explain it well, he served 18 months but this was a crime committed in 1915, the war ended in 1918. He was not extradited to canada immediately, he was extradited in 1919. Also, he was sentenced to 10 years in 1919, but was found insane in 1921, due to advanced syphilis.
Not so fun fact. The disaster at Lac Megantic in 2013 occurred on this same line. I did hear of this incident before but I didn't hear of all the funny details
Hi I have an idea for citation needed unless my brakeman has expired. I should still be in the brakeman discord. I could tell it to you there because I have a really good idea. 0:46
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So, my dad grew up in Danforth, ME, which is only like half an hour from Vanceboro. And after watching this video for the first time, I asked my grandmother (my dad's mom) about this event, and she told me the entire story from my grandfather's father's perspective. Gerald Greene, I believe his name was, and as it turned out, he was the one of the railroad policemen that took Werner Horn into custody. As a matter of fact, it was his very first day on the job.
Later, in 1917, he was drafted into the army, and fought in the trenches. After my grandfather was born in 1938, he was drafted again into the army in 1941 and was assigned as a tank engineer in North Africa. He rose to the position of tank commander, and after the war in Africa was over, he was transferred to Operation Overlord during the D-Day invasion. He stormed Omaha Beach in the 3rd wave, and he was told to leave all of his kit on the boat, because he would find everything he needed on the beach from dead soldiers.
WHAT!? Oh my word. What are the odds. Dude, thank you for sharing.
"Fun fact": the guy at the embassy, von Papen, later became Hitlers vice chancelor. One of the people charged at the Nürnberg trial.
Well I guess that's evidence against Hitler. He was never going to succeed in his "third reich", not with Von "Failed-to-get-a-single-bridge-blown-up-in-the-last-war" as his vice chancelor. He's probably the one who suggested they try to double cross the Soviets and invade them during the Winter, because his last Winter Ops went so well.
thaaats where i know the name from! kinda predictable now that i think about it.
Ahhhh
that is a not fun fact
@@Hyce777it’s a very fun fact
As a guy from Germany I just have to say... This is just awsome ! Your imitaion of the German language / talking made me laught so hard ! Love your content Hyce !
As another guy from Germany, I second this!
Also a german: ja, sis wass heelaarrriouss!
KARTOFFELPUFFER! I literally died on my chair! Great content!
Vocabulary addition: Pancakes = Palatschinken
@@thatoldme1234 pretty sure that’s only in Austria, elsewhere it’s Pfannkuchen
“Imperial German accidentally makes a key mistake by assuming the train timetable is accurate” just (pardon the pun) tracks so well.
Also if kAN ever comes down to the Museum, get him on the show with a trash can helmet to cover his face if he doesn’t want to show it
LIMES!
Lime this user!
Kan has shown his face many times. He used to stream, and you can go watch his April fool's scrap mechanic video with scrapman. He has a face cam in an MS paint version of the gear like scrapman has
@@1MBStudios Sure, but a trash can with glowing eyes would be amazing.
Lmao most German mistake back then, nowadays it would be the complete opposite
Always love these fun episodes and learning/laughing along with “Citation Needed”. I’ll see if there’s any fun stories from the Wilmington & Western and the Rockton & Rion to submit for the next season.
Inspector Carr Horn, immigration officer for the State of Maine, famous for 1915 Vanceboro international bridge bombing
These seasons are wonderful! Cheers to more!
These 3/4 idiot shows ROCK. They never fail to leave me laughing SERIOUSLY hard. Sometimes I even forget to breathe, I'm laughing so hard.
Whenever the limes come out, I start laughing, and at the end I always exclaim "HYCE!"
If you four hadn't been museum railroaders you DEFINITELY could have been a comedy act!
I could DEFINITELY go for more Citation Needed.
i woke up for this, i do not regret it.
18:40 As someone who has played D&D, Carr Horn is a vibe
This has been hilarious every Time! Cant Wait for Season 3!
On a side note, my dad owns the exact same brand of engine lift that sits behind Leighton.
Love these videos, so sad to see season two end, so excited to see season three. Can’t wait to see who the next special guest is.❤
As a ww1 and ww2 and train nerd I like it
👇 thanks for the likes
Same. This truly did put a smile on my face.
Oh well that’s good
Can you talk about prairie style architecture used by railroads? No one has talked about prairie style yet and it looks quite interesting on railroads
You guys have a great time .lots of laughs . Have a great week .....a good story also.
Great video! Your 3/4 of an idiot videos never cease to make me laugh. The Blazing Saddles reference was great lol.
Great video! Have you heard that Canadian Pacific #2816 is getting overhauled to make a trip from Calgary, CA to Mexico City?
Yee. It should be on KCS trackage... which is right down my road lol
It’s probably going to be like “WHY IS IT SO *WHISTLE* HOT!!!”
When?
My guess would be sometime in June, July, or August.
@@Mr.Railfan thanks
You should do one for the USS barb who is credited with sinking several ships and a locomotive
Thatt happened twice?? i knew about Eugene Flucky who commanded a submarine in ww2 named the USS Barbus (Barb), and they ratioed a lot of the japanese navy as well as going "see that train that just went into that jap port? yea? i dont wanna see it". but please do tell im intrigued
how did USS Gato sink a locomotive of all things?!
@@mikefilipkowski5445 It didn’t sink an locomotive, but the crew from the ship did make an on-shore attack against an enemy train and it was credited as a “k!ll”.
@@mikefilipkowski5445 not sure about the Gato but the way the electrician on the USS Barbus did it was hook up the scuttle charge to a pressure switch, go out in the middle of the night, plant it, run like hell, and wait. train went ~200 ft in the air cuz 65 pounds of raw tnt, and went in the drink
It was Barb, not Gato
So cool to see Hyce and the other 3/4 of an idiot cover a topic involving my province! I was wondering why Vanceboro sounded familiar.. it's right across the border from the rail hub of McAdam, New Brunswick, which has a STUNNING chateau-style railway station/hotel that the small town just restored recently.
Also, all the railroading Hyce brought me into inspired me to take a book out of the local library on the rail history of my New Brunswick - it is expansive for such a small province! So many interesting stories. From milling tycoons building loads of narrow-gauge to profit from the government subsidy of land-for-rail-mile, to trying to build a rail line from the Bay of Fundy to the St. Lawrence to bypass the winter ice, to building a SHIP RAILWAY to CARRY WHOLE SHIPS 25KM OVER LAND from the Bay of Fundy to the Northumberland Strait (the Chignecto Ship Railway) and more.. it's so cool knowing all of this happened here! A shame it all got torn up in the 80s..
P.S. No Brett, it's in New Brunswick, not Newfoundland! Newfoundland's the island on the far far eastern end, and was still an independent British colony at the time believe it or not. You probably got mixed up with their St. John's vs our Saint John.. it happens a lot..
Film these during open hours as a new museum special event? I'd pay good money to watch this live... Assuming I was anywhere remotely close to Colorado. XD
Most definitely. Four hour flight, over an hour on RTD, and a heck of a walk. Absolutely worth it for this. Then again, it would certainly be different if hosted anywhere but the roundhouse or a pub, the dozens of others around them notwithstanding.
That bell sounds really, really good.
I love the use of 346's bell as a stand-in for Mystery Biscuits.
Love the story! The Demoman joke reminded me of a locomotive that appears in TF2 that apparently is currently at the Colorado Railroad museum.
DRGW #50 if I’m correct.
Yes! Please do more of these videos! Great for a good laugh, and the extra train history is nice too! 😁
Hyce should talk about how Germany 2nd poorly attempt on the railroad during WW II how it was over before it even began.
Here’s the link to the Wikipedia article on it
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Pastorius
Next season Citation Needed on the Great Locomotive Chase!
Finally something related to war! Thank you for the bell 346! And a question for you hyce, what is your favorite bass guitar and standard electric guitar.
By far some of the most entertaining railroad/history/preservation content on TH-cam. The 3/4 gang vibe so well with each other and can do well with whoever the (un)lucky fourth happens to be.
Can't wait for more Citation Needed, Two of these People are Lying, and 3/4 Idiots!
I always love these videos, there’s never a dull moment, also those German imitations had me rolling on the floor laughing.
Alamosa. Alamosa. Alamosa!
More! More! More! More!
So much fun guys. Thank you.
You should do this one Leaked audio reveals US rail workers were told to skip inspections as Ohio crash prompts scrutiny to industry
34:20 a highly acceptable Who’s Line reference. Bravo
Can't wait for season 3 maybe flying scotsman us tour would be pretty good for Citation Needed
38:37 Actually "Three quarters of these people are idiots" would be the perfect title for this imo - clear Tom Scott reference, but it is a different vibe, and also a nice reference to the three quarters joke. And the last quarter is whoever is currently giving the correct answer :P
Going with the current disasters theme on the show, I recommend looking up the Dover Oklahoma bridge collapse, which resulted in a massive lawsuit
Beautiful. Could also do the Dupont (Washington) train collision.
Ugh. We could. lol
Never in my life would I think I would hear a man yelling “lime that man” to a man holding a lime wedge
🎉 THE GRANDE FINALE 🎉
Thanks bro for the epic finale
The ryker maneuvers was because before next generation the actor injured his back. Which is also why ryker puts his leg up anytime he can.
I’ve been underdressed (by modern standards) in Maine during a mild winter and to think that he was out there for THAT long is just crazy!
love citation needed always look forward to them, but getting the second one makes me a little sad cause that means no new 3/4 idiots episodes for a while.
We do have to film the next season soon!
Funny and fun video. I was laughing the entire time, especially when the limes went flying
Love it! Lots of fun! More please! :D I'd send stories if I had them.
This was awesome lol! I believe Brett is 4 for 4 on the Citation Needed shows. As always, great job and hopefully there will be another season of the 3/4 Idiot Show soon.
Love the Blazing Saddles references!
i've been waiting for a new citation needed
Super funny & great story Hyce!
I'd put the bell cord under the table for more discreet operation
Love the video hyce
I LOVE this show. The timing, the history, the citrus! (In a German accent)
2:20 You have been clipped, sirs.
Have a good day.
I have a complaint.
There aren't enough episodes.
Love these specials. And yes, I've got so many ideas for both Citation Needed and Two Of These People Are Lying.
I have to say hyce you got some good chuckels out of me grüße aus Deutschland
i like this hope for season three with more stores and trying to see who lies
We need to see slow-mo shot of limes exploding after beeing hit by Bret's machete! Style points if the fragments hits somebody's face (watching act of slashing vigorously on a table levlel or in the air) :D Also an advice- just tie longer string to a bell cord ;)
The title reminded me of how a ww2 sub "sunk" a train.
Something cool is the newfoundland railway was actually narrow gauge so I order to get to St John you had to change gauge on New Brunswick also newfoundland wasn't part of Canada at that point
Loved it can't wait for next one
"Lime that man. LIME THAT MAN!"
- Mark "Hyce" Huber
They get better and better
1:27 random cog joke and
Also my prediction is it's the Maine/Quebec border and it's Canadian Pacific
Geat keep it going fun stuff. now for logging that is a kick.
inactivation is the term used to describe that formal shutdown of a combat unit.
the Lime heard across TH-cam
Take that, Brett! :D
The more and more I listen to this (I'm at the flag on arm part), the more I understand why they lost the war...
Not a very noteworthy story but a good friend of mine was a higher-up for the C&NW and later UP (he’s retired and now runs the interurbans at the IRM). He was telling me of a picture that hung up on a wall in an office in Chicago of a C&NW stack train that got stuck under a bridge with a sign that said “no stack trains”. It’s probably in a box somewhere in the dungeons of the Union Pacific HQ now lol
Omg, you idiots absolutely hilarious! Hollywood couldn’t improve on the looniness of that story! Thanks Mark for another “idiotic” season (my lime shield is up 🤣)! Looking forward to the next season’s installments! Cheers to you all.
11:10 Bridge between Canada and Maine, that would make the Canadian Province either Quebec or New Brunswick, but having looked up Vanceboro I have determined it is the latter
Also I can't tell if that's what he was going for, but Leighton nailed the Maritime Canadian accent for "It's just a bridge buddy"
0:41
Be careful Brett doesn't fly away.
I have a suggestion for a future Citation Needed for an incident near my area over 100 years ago, but all I have is newspaper articles, not an official incident report from any investigation agency. A: would that be enough?, And B: if so, where shall I send it? Loved this story, and the hijinks of the 3/4 of an idiot crew. Can't wait for next season!
Shoot it over to the channel e-mail at hyce7777@gmail.com! :)
9:56 I like to think this is similar to how south Park episodes get written
How about the German plan to do the same thing but most US east coast train infrastructure during WW2. I like this
😂 can't wait to finish this on lunch break
I've got to remember 1-800-NOT-MY-PROBLEM, that part about killed me😆
Hyce, you and Kan should get an Eureka and name it Edward on the C.R.A.P line
The name "Franz von Papen" sounded familiar to me. Well, turns out he later, among other things, became Hitler's Vice-Chancellor...
Please let Season 3 begin tomorrow
17:26 worth pointing out that imperial germany was a police state like most european nations and very much unlike the USA. Yeah, search and seizure and probable cause laws were veeeery different back then, but he was probably thinking that being a newcomer to the town the police would at some point seek him out and demand to see inside his suitcase
oh cool
a story that kinda takes place in New Brunswick
very nice
346 has such a lovely sounding bell. Such a great addition to this fantastic nonsense
Hyce, you should have kept your moustache just for this occasion-wax it to look like Kaiser Wilhelm 😂
That would've been perfect, had we not filmed this 5 weeks before the mustache occurred! :D
@@Hyce777 This is true! And apparently you didn’t know you needed Brett’s secret Pickelhaube helmet either!
You should do this on the big boy crash
Car horns in that era went awoOOOga
the story of how a theme park in California (Knott's Berry Farm) got Rio Grande engines
Train+WWI go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
You got a couple timeline details wrong or didn't explain it well, he served 18 months but this was a crime committed in 1915, the war ended in 1918. He was not extradited to canada immediately, he was extradited in 1919. Also, he was sentenced to 10 years in 1919, but was found insane in 1921, due to advanced syphilis.
Could you talk about the time the New York central strapped a jet engine to a Budd Rail Diesel Car?
I know a railway story from Czechoslovakia about the mysterious light that killed 118 people.
How to blow up a bridge (in Minecraft):
1. NEVER ENOUGH EXPLOSIVES
2. Place them strategically
This is just the way to blow up anything isn’t it?
I love Citation Needed.
I like to imagine grandma is just smiling at her idiots as they play their game and borrow her bell
I'd hope so. She's pretty calm as far as engines go. Lol
These are pretty good, I'm looking forward to Lawrie Rose being the fourth person someday!
hearing "smoke and a pancake?" I instantly was like rekideki Dutch bastard.
aww man, the air compressor didn't sneeze
Not so fun fact. The disaster at Lac Megantic in 2013 occurred on this same line. I did hear of this incident before but I didn't hear of all the funny details
Some day, years from now, someone's going to find a lime in the stack of '20 and nobody is going to know why.
Hi I have an idea for citation needed unless my brakeman has expired. I should still be in the brakeman discord. I could tell it to you there because I have a really good idea. 0:46
The bell on 346 is it the same type of bell that 491 use
Nope.
When is season 3 coming lol
Well, it's not filmed, so, a while. Lol.
THis story needs to be a film XD
See all that happens when you turn back around to watch the explosion.