Greetings from San Francisco. It appears that our cities are similar in 2 major ways: we have lots of hills (switch-push skills are a benefit), and decaying road infrastructure (bad tarmac). I can relate to the declining longboarding scene that you are noticing in your city. Prior to 2020 there were a lot of longboard commuters in San Francisco, majority of them on electric longboards. Then when the lockdowns happened, all of that changed, and sadly, the scene has never recovered. I'm attributing it to evolving trends wherein longboards are being replaced with E-scooters, E-bikes, and E-unicycles. It's all about speed and range nowadays, and less with fitness and "that longboard flow". I'm fairly certain, however, that the trend will swing the other way where the simplicity and freedom of being able to push a longboard over long distances is way more satisfying than standing/sitting on a motorized platform that relies on batteries. Keep longboarding culture alive...and don't stop pushing.
Thanks for letting me know about San Francisco. The good sign is that road bicycles are still here and I see many really fit guys riding them. So if we improve awareness and availability, the community could recover with new and old members. That's why I'm posting these videos.
Greetings from a Brazilian longboarder! Your city seems pretty nice to ride! I'm also enjoy a lot to commute on the streets with a Longboard, and i enjoyed a lot your video. Thanks for the tour and the conversation!
Svaka cast na hrabrosti, pogotovo po Bgu!!! Stvarno je retkost videti da neko vozi bilo koji board bilo gde po gradu, mislio sam da takvi ne postoje! Ovaj krug od Obilicevog preko Kneza Milosa, nazad u Knez, na Kalis i po Dorcolu me apsolutno odusevio! Sve vreme sam cekao da se pojavi neka rupcaga koja ce da proguta ne samo tocak nego ceo board hahah... Ja sam od malena mastao o skejtu, ali nekako to nije bilo popularno i nikad nisam naucio da vozim. Zato sam sad za 30ti rodjendan uzeo cruiser i planiram da pocnem! Hvala puno na inspiraciji! Samo jako!
Thrilled to see a comment from the local, thank you. Sorry, I'll reply in English because to my shame I'm still not able to express complex thoughts in Serbian. I've been to many areas of Belgrade on my longboards and can definitely say that it is possible to ride in most of the places here. Of course some are suited better then the others. The key here are softer wheels > 80mm (I'd recommend 90), dropdown deck with moderate flex and technique which I talk about in this video. You will suffer on a classic skateboard with small hard wheels and stiff deck. You won't be very comfortable and will have limited speed on classic small cruisers like landyachtz dinghy (though they are fine on bike lanes with new tarmac). But I've tested boards like ly dropcat 38, pantheon supersonic/pranayama, loaded icarus/dervish/vanguard and they are all ok. For cruising for long distances (LDP) I'd recommend dropdowns.
@@BalkanWalks66 Thanks a lot for replying and all the suggestions! I will check out the longboards you mentioned and if I manage to learn to ride properly (hopefully soon haha) I will definitely consider investing a bit more and getting a nice dropdown! Honestly bicycles are great, you can put stuff on them and avoid the traffic, but you are tied to them and can’t go into buses and cars and can’t bring them indoors with you and I don’t like leaving a bike outdoors in Belgrade. That’s why I’m considering a board because it’s faster and it’s more fun than walking but still doesn’t limit you. Keep up with great work, it’s really refreshing and inspiring! Samo jako!!!
@@BalkanWalks66 Yes I am, and I would gladly, but I have moved out of Belgrade last year, so l’m not around anymore… When I come back I will reach out for sure!
Мой город совсем не для лонгборда, ввиду большого количества бордюров и полного отсутствия велодорожек, а иногда и тротуаров. Для себя я выбрал круизер. Он легче и меньше, а еще на нем можно прыгать, преодолевая препятствия. Сейчас стоит озвученная в видео проблема - никто кроме меня не катается на таком транспорте. Создал группу в телеграмме. Нигде не продвигал, но пара ребят уже добавились. Может из этого что-то и выйдет. Просто комментарий в поддержку канала.
Спасибо. Перед тем, как приехать жить в Белград, я изучал информацию про этот город и видел вопросы из серии "можно ли кататься на лонгборде". И ответ был "нет, нельзя - негде". А по факту теперь это мой основной транспорт, когда нужно неспешно куда-то доехать в пределах 10-15 км от центра. Круизёр у нас тоже есть, LY Dinghy на 72 мм колёсах. Несмотря на то, что это очень клёвая доска сама по себе, всё же на ней менее комфортно. Правда мы на бордюры не прыгаем, не умеем. Но особо и не требуется.
Ciao, ho 53 anni e ho comprati il mio primo skate. Ho scelto un cruiser mi sembrava più stabile, faccio pratica sul terrazzo di casa, poi quando avrò trovato il coraggio andrò in strada. Il longboad mi piace molto.
Ciao from Italy/as you know! I saw very rarely longboard commuters and I don't know if I would encourage it for safety, but there is a scene of both Dancing and Surfskating... and a handful of LDPers, me included, but we focus more on bike paths without cars, something that you don't usually find in the city, but more on the outside/along rivers generally. Surely for the city, a longboard has the advantage of no punctures and fitting in a locker once you arrived, or also on public transportation... but the risk of falling is kind of a deal breaker for me for everyday, maybe "in the rush", commuting.
Ciao! I totally get what you mean - falling down is a part of this game :) But yesterday I went to the office on my longboard, it took 27 minutes and it was good. And in the evening we had a great ride with friends, overtaking the buses and making taxi drivers mad. And my true hero is Bartek, he literally rides everywhere. He was the one who inspired me to make videos myself.
I have not fallen in over a year, and i only have 3 years longboarding experience, loaded tan tien 72mm wheels, i ride on the street/asphalt, not the sidewalks
@@C11H15NO2__ I actually fall sometimes, but in the controlled conditions and when actually prepared for it. I.e. when learning some new trick. When just cruising there is still a chance of some accidents but it exists for every other means of transport also. I just don't want these thought prevent me from having fun.
very nice! the pantheon supersonic is CHOICE. i just got mine and i'm getting used to it, the somewhat dead rear truck is a bit weird at first and i'm figuring out carving downhill. living in NYC, so unfortunately i can't just take off and ride throughout half of the city because i'll inevitably get murdered by a car or a delivery bike, so having to look for safe (and flat) spots to ride - but there are plenty :) stay safe out there!
Yeah, dealing with a city traffic is a skill that needs to be managed separately. When I was a road cyclist it took me maybe a year to get used to it (I didn't drive a car at that moment). I may suggest that you have a look at MeetJay channel, if I remember correctly most of his longboarding videos are from the streets of NYC. Keep riding!
Haven't tried Penny on this type of road surface, but on LY Dinghy (with 72mm wheels) it's way too tough here when going off a bike lane. Hope your city is better.
@@BalkanWalks66 it may be crazy but I just want to make the 22” penny work for me it’s just so small and funny. It’s a dream :D one day I’ll get an ldp pantheon!
Another Plus for Longboarding is no pressure on the hands like on a bicycle. So for manual workers with a lifetime of cycling its not adding to the wear and tear on the hands and wrists (assuming no bad falls)
Unfortunately it does not go without falls. As an amateur piano player I also try to mitigate the arms injuries, that's why I always wear protection gloves. Well, everything in this life has its costs.
Hi, my name is Johann and I am a 50 year old rider, I live in the southwest of France but I work in Paris. I watched a lot of your videos to make a choice on the longboard that I should buy between the pranayama and the trip, I could not decide I chose the carbon trip. I thank you very much for your channel because it makes you want to ride a longboard. However, I had a few remarks to make on this last video: I wanted to make a small comparison with France. Here the law prohibits riding on sidewalks or at a maximum speed of 6 km / h and the regulations are really very strict because they only allow riding on cycle roads with specific equipment such as lights in front and behind, a helmet, a bell and specific insurance. Because of this many people prefer to buy a bike. At the 10th minute you say that € 400 is cheap compared to a € 10,000 bike. But we find electric scooters or electric skateboards at the same price and beginners don't know how to brake so they prefer to go for this kind of product ready to ride without experience. Moreover, in France with taxes, the supersonic is over €500. At the 15th minute you talk about the push mongo. The push mongo is pushing with the foot at the back of the board. Changing feet or switching is going from regular to gouffy. Regarding young people who do figure skating or dancing, I think they prefer to impress young girls rather than go hiking with the old guys! Thanks for your videos and keep it up! Best regards.
Hi Johann, and thank you for your comment. I didn't expect anyone to watch the video so long and do it with attention 😀 I've watched many videos from France cities. My bet is that the strict rules for sidewalks are because of the mature developed bike/skate infrastructure. In Serbia we are just at the beginning here. Maybe in the future, things will move further, and more restrictions will be applied here also. And you are right about the prices, but my take here is that we compare one of the best mass-produced complete longboard setups to the cheapest Chinese scooters. Are they even capable of going 15 km in the hills? Thank you for your kind words. Keep rolling!
Чё это)) я тоже от начала до конца посмотрел, пришлось только слушать с автопереводом ИИ 😄 Вы все верно говорите, топовый лонг или дешман велик. Но при выборе между велосипедом и лонгом мне кажется много ещё зависит создаваемого впечатления. Новичок выглядит часто нелепо в глазах окружающих и даже инородно среди городской массы. Чтобы такого не ощущалось, нужно уметь очень хорошо кататься и желательно иметь велодорожки. Поэтому велосипед все равно будет оставаться более популярным. Я перестал ездить на велосипеде, так как мне не требуется покрывать большие расстояния, у меня есть для этого автомобиль. А чтобы почувствовать наслаждение от поездки мне как раз подходит лонгборд. Это чувство не заменит другой вид "транспорта". Как минимум это всегда весело. И мне нравится что не каждый проходящий мимо человек может овладеть лонгбордом прямо здесь и сейчас, этому нужно учиться. Создаётся ощущение какой то уникальной возможности :) Кстати я все таки купил лоадед фатом, если помните немного ранее я писал вам на канале. И все таки буду ждать обзора от вас, если он вам подвернётся где то😊
@@Vitos700x да пора признаться самим себе, что мы просто фанаты :) У нас на двоих 5 досок, а скоро будет 6. Кстати, дешёвые китайские электросамокаты не могут меня обогнать в местные подъёмы, у них не тянет батарейка или контроллер, едут 10-12 кмч и видно, что с надрывом, особенно если ездун тяжёлый. Поздравляю с покупкой фатома, да, конечно помню. У меня скоро будет новая досочка, по слухам это будет лдп-пушка. Так что скорее всего если договоримся с ребятами, будет её сравнение с сетапом g-bomb.
@@BalkanWalks66 вот на счёт фанатов согласен, у меня тоже теперь 5 досок, не успеваю кататься только на них 😂 в общем любые обзоры и видео в целом всегда с интересом и любопытством жду и смотрю!
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Greetings from San Francisco.
It appears that our cities are similar in 2 major ways: we have lots of hills (switch-push skills are a benefit), and decaying road infrastructure (bad tarmac).
I can relate to the declining longboarding scene that you are noticing in your city. Prior to 2020 there were a lot of longboard commuters in San Francisco, majority of them on electric longboards. Then when the lockdowns happened, all of that changed, and sadly, the scene has never recovered. I'm attributing it to evolving trends wherein longboards are being replaced with E-scooters, E-bikes, and E-unicycles. It's all about speed and range nowadays, and less with fitness and "that longboard flow". I'm fairly certain, however, that the trend will swing the other way where the simplicity and freedom of being able to push a longboard over long distances is way more satisfying than standing/sitting on a motorized platform that relies on batteries.
Keep longboarding culture alive...and don't stop pushing.
Thanks for letting me know about San Francisco. The good sign is that road bicycles are still here and I see many really fit guys riding them. So if we improve awareness and availability, the community could recover with new and old members. That's why I'm posting these videos.
Very good point about portability apposed to a bike. Nice socks.
Thanks! My wife gave them to me saying they match my wheels (when clean) :))
Greetings from a Brazilian longboarder! Your city seems pretty nice to ride! I'm also enjoy a lot to commute on the streets with a Longboard, and i enjoyed a lot your video. Thanks for the tour and the conversation!
Thank you for the kind words.
Svaka cast na hrabrosti, pogotovo po Bgu!!! Stvarno je retkost videti da neko vozi bilo koji board bilo gde po gradu, mislio sam da takvi ne postoje! Ovaj krug od Obilicevog preko Kneza Milosa, nazad u Knez, na Kalis i po Dorcolu me apsolutno odusevio! Sve vreme sam cekao da se pojavi neka rupcaga koja ce da proguta ne samo tocak nego ceo board hahah... Ja sam od malena mastao o skejtu, ali nekako to nije bilo popularno i nikad nisam naucio da vozim. Zato sam sad za 30ti rodjendan uzeo cruiser i planiram da pocnem! Hvala puno na inspiraciji! Samo jako!
Thrilled to see a comment from the local, thank you. Sorry, I'll reply in English because to my shame I'm still not able to express complex thoughts in Serbian.
I've been to many areas of Belgrade on my longboards and can definitely say that it is possible to ride in most of the places here. Of course some are suited better then the others. The key here are softer wheels > 80mm (I'd recommend 90), dropdown deck with moderate flex and technique which I talk about in this video.
You will suffer on a classic skateboard with small hard wheels and stiff deck. You won't be very comfortable and will have limited speed on classic small cruisers like landyachtz dinghy (though they are fine on bike lanes with new tarmac).
But I've tested boards like ly dropcat 38, pantheon supersonic/pranayama, loaded icarus/dervish/vanguard and they are all ok. For cruising for long distances (LDP) I'd recommend dropdowns.
@@BalkanWalks66 Thanks a lot for replying and all the suggestions! I will check out the longboards you mentioned and if I manage to learn to ride properly (hopefully soon haha) I will definitely consider investing a bit more and getting a nice dropdown!
Honestly bicycles are great, you can put stuff on them and avoid the traffic, but you are tied to them and can’t go into buses and cars and can’t bring them indoors with you and I don’t like leaving a bike outdoors in Belgrade. That’s why I’m considering a board because it’s faster and it’s more fun than walking but still doesn’t limit you.
Keep up with great work, it’s really refreshing and inspiring! Samo jako!!!
Are you a beginner? Why don't you take several lessons from me? Kalemegdan is fine for first steps and also you could try some other boards.
@@BalkanWalks66 Yes I am, and I would gladly, but I have moved out of Belgrade last year, so l’m not around anymore… When I come back I will reach out for sure!
Хорошая прогулка по Белграду, буду пересматривать и ностальгировать, если перееду снова.
Мой город совсем не для лонгборда, ввиду большого количества бордюров и полного отсутствия велодорожек, а иногда и тротуаров. Для себя я выбрал круизер. Он легче и меньше, а еще на нем можно прыгать, преодолевая препятствия. Сейчас стоит озвученная в видео проблема - никто кроме меня не катается на таком транспорте. Создал группу в телеграмме. Нигде не продвигал, но пара ребят уже добавились. Может из этого что-то и выйдет. Просто комментарий в поддержку канала.
Спасибо. Перед тем, как приехать жить в Белград, я изучал информацию про этот город и видел вопросы из серии "можно ли кататься на лонгборде". И ответ был "нет, нельзя - негде". А по факту теперь это мой основной транспорт, когда нужно неспешно куда-то доехать в пределах 10-15 км от центра.
Круизёр у нас тоже есть, LY Dinghy на 72 мм колёсах. Несмотря на то, что это очень клёвая доска сама по себе, всё же на ней менее комфортно. Правда мы на бордюры не прыгаем, не умеем. Но особо и не требуется.
Greetings from Bulgaria. I am also sometimes riding a longboard, looks very much like yours and I am over 40 years old.
Greetings from Serbia! I visited your country about 25 years ago. Do not remember the roads and everything, but the food was amazing :)
Ciao, ho 53 anni e ho comprati il mio primo skate. Ho scelto un cruiser mi sembrava più stabile, faccio pratica sul terrazzo di casa, poi quando avrò trovato il coraggio andrò in strada. Il longboad mi piace molto.
Good job!
Super určitě to pomůže těm co chtějí začít jezdit městem. také já začínám jezdit ve svých 65 létech. Díky za inspiraci ...
Děkuju!
Ciao from Italy/as you know!
I saw very rarely longboard commuters and I don't know if I would encourage it for safety, but there is a scene of both Dancing and Surfskating... and a handful of LDPers, me included, but we focus more on bike paths without cars, something that you don't usually find in the city, but more on the outside/along rivers generally. Surely for the city, a longboard has the advantage of no punctures and fitting in a locker once you arrived, or also on public transportation... but the risk of falling is kind of a deal breaker for me for everyday, maybe "in the rush", commuting.
Ciao!
I totally get what you mean - falling down is a part of this game :) But yesterday I went to the office on my longboard, it took 27 minutes and it was good. And in the evening we had a great ride with friends, overtaking the buses and making taxi drivers mad.
And my true hero is Bartek, he literally rides everywhere. He was the one who inspired me to make videos myself.
I have not fallen in over a year, and i only have 3 years longboarding experience, loaded tan tien 72mm wheels, i ride on the street/asphalt, not the sidewalks
@@C11H15NO2__ I actually fall sometimes, but in the controlled conditions and when actually prepared for it. I.e. when learning some new trick. When just cruising there is still a chance of some accidents but it exists for every other means of transport also. I just don't want these thought prevent me from having fun.
Awesome!
very nice! the pantheon supersonic is CHOICE. i just got mine and i'm getting used to it, the somewhat dead rear truck is a bit weird at first and i'm figuring out carving downhill. living in NYC, so unfortunately i can't just take off and ride throughout half of the city because i'll inevitably get murdered by a car or a delivery bike, so having to look for safe (and flat) spots to ride - but there are plenty :) stay safe out there!
Yeah, dealing with a city traffic is a skill that needs to be managed separately. When I was a road cyclist it took me maybe a year to get used to it (I didn't drive a car at that moment). I may suggest that you have a look at MeetJay channel, if I remember correctly most of his longboarding videos are from the streets of NYC. Keep riding!
Got a penny board to do this in my city.. i have a long way to go to ride comfortably and safely haha
Haven't tried Penny on this type of road surface, but on LY Dinghy (with 72mm wheels) it's way too tough here when going off a bike lane. Hope your city is better.
@@BalkanWalks66 it may be crazy but I just want to make the 22” penny work for me it’s just so small and funny. It’s a dream :D one day I’ll get an ldp pantheon!
@@fredisyoga873 why not? Penny boards are great.
Another Plus for Longboarding is no pressure on the hands like on a bicycle. So for manual workers with a lifetime of cycling its not adding to the wear and tear on the hands and wrists (assuming no bad falls)
Unfortunately it does not go without falls. As an amateur piano player I also try to mitigate the arms injuries, that's why I always wear protection gloves. Well, everything in this life has its costs.
Good video! What kind of board you have??
Thanks. This video is literally about this board and the choice. It's a Pantheon Supersonic.
Hi, my name is Johann and I am a 50 year old rider, I live in the southwest of France but I work in Paris. I watched a lot of your videos to make a choice on the longboard that I should buy between the pranayama and the trip, I could not decide I chose the carbon trip. I thank you very much for your channel because it makes you want to ride a longboard. However, I had a few remarks to make on this last video: I wanted to make a small comparison with France. Here the law prohibits riding on sidewalks or at a maximum speed of 6 km / h and the regulations are really very strict because they only allow riding on cycle roads with specific equipment such as lights in front and behind, a helmet, a bell and specific insurance. Because of this many people prefer to buy a bike. At the 10th minute you say that € 400 is cheap compared to a € 10,000 bike. But we find electric scooters or electric skateboards at the same price and beginners don't know how to brake so they prefer to go for this kind of product ready to ride without experience. Moreover, in France with taxes, the supersonic is over €500. At the 15th minute you talk about the push mongo. The push mongo is pushing with the foot at the back of the board. Changing feet or switching is going from regular to gouffy. Regarding young people who do figure skating or dancing, I think they prefer to impress young girls rather than go hiking with the old guys! Thanks for your videos and keep it up! Best regards.
Hi Johann, and thank you for your comment. I didn't expect anyone to watch the video so long and do it with attention 😀 I've watched many videos from France cities. My bet is that the strict rules for sidewalks are because of the mature developed bike/skate infrastructure. In Serbia we are just at the beginning here. Maybe in the future, things will move further, and more restrictions will be applied here also.
And you are right about the prices, but my take here is that we compare one of the best mass-produced complete longboard setups to the cheapest Chinese scooters. Are they even capable of going 15 km in the hills?
Thank you for your kind words. Keep rolling!
Чё это)) я тоже от начала до конца посмотрел, пришлось только слушать с автопереводом ИИ 😄 Вы все верно говорите, топовый лонг или дешман велик. Но при выборе между велосипедом и лонгом мне кажется много ещё зависит создаваемого впечатления. Новичок выглядит часто нелепо в глазах окружающих и даже инородно среди городской массы. Чтобы такого не ощущалось, нужно уметь очень хорошо кататься и желательно иметь велодорожки. Поэтому велосипед все равно будет оставаться более популярным. Я перестал ездить на велосипеде, так как мне не требуется покрывать большие расстояния, у меня есть для этого автомобиль. А чтобы почувствовать наслаждение от поездки мне как раз подходит лонгборд. Это чувство не заменит другой вид "транспорта". Как минимум это всегда весело. И мне нравится что не каждый проходящий мимо человек может овладеть лонгбордом прямо здесь и сейчас, этому нужно учиться. Создаётся ощущение какой то уникальной возможности :) Кстати я все таки купил лоадед фатом, если помните немного ранее я писал вам на канале. И все таки буду ждать обзора от вас, если он вам подвернётся где то😊
@@Vitos700x да пора признаться самим себе, что мы просто фанаты :) У нас на двоих 5 досок, а скоро будет 6. Кстати, дешёвые китайские электросамокаты не могут меня обогнать в местные подъёмы, у них не тянет батарейка или контроллер, едут 10-12 кмч и видно, что с надрывом, особенно если ездун тяжёлый.
Поздравляю с покупкой фатома, да, конечно помню. У меня скоро будет новая досочка, по слухам это будет лдп-пушка. Так что скорее всего если договоримся с ребятами, будет её сравнение с сетапом g-bomb.
@@BalkanWalks66 вот на счёт фанатов согласен, у меня тоже теперь 5 досок, не успеваю кататься только на них 😂 в общем любые обзоры и видео в целом всегда с интересом и любопытством жду и смотрю!
@@Vitos700x так а может тогда снимите обзор сами? Лишнего контента не бывает на эту тему, не так много людей в мире его пилит.