So lets have a fun one for today, inspired by a twitter post I made a whiles back that went viral cause people love their crazy ladies! Can you fix her? Probably not, but its fun to talk about so lets go over some of the more unhinged gals of Fighting Games!
You’re not wrong Roof, AKI and Hibiki are proper crazy ladies. And guess what they don’t need to be fixed, they are perfect as they are. If anything they can make me worse.
There is no way in the world you can make this list without bulletta from darkstalkers...she is the craziest girl in fightning game without sharing the spot with nobody else, none of the characters comes close to her. Nice vid aside of that
One character I feel you should bring up is Nu-13 from the BlazBlue series. Normally, her personality is more akin to a machine. But when you have her face off against Ragna, her entire demeanor changes. Something to note about BlazBlue is that whatever the characters say during gameplay changes when you have them face off against certain people. With Nu-13, she starts showing a lot more personality around Ragna. Unfortunately, that personality involves that of a cheerful psychopath obsessively in love with Ragna, made worse by the fact that Nu is literally an artificial clone of his sister.
Said an actor: "playing bad guys in movies is way more fun than to be the hero " that's my reasoning when choosing mains in fg's. Almost all of them are in this video: Juri, Mature and Vice, Tira, I-No, Hibiki, Freeman, Nightmare, Juri from Galaxy fight (play that game, please), Garuda, Billy Kane, among the first that I can remember.
What I find really interesting about Hibiki's story is how she will never run into Setsuna, her father's killer, in her arcade mode. This means Hibiki never gets her revenge and her evil ending leaves her wondering and killing anyone with a sword having forgotten the noble purpose of her quest. Alternatively, if the player doesn't kill with her, Hibiki gives up seeking revenge and travels the world with her new boyfriend.
@ you’re absolutely right, I was just saying AKI is a tad bit crazier. However if we’re talking pugilistic skills, Juri got her good. Juri was my main in SF5 and still my main in SF6.
As this video correctly shows though, even Aki isn't off the charts crazy. She has no sense of morality and is obsessed with the way that poison affects people, but she's still a functional human being. She probably has plenty of seemingly normal days where she's just doing some research and enjoying her day. She's dangerous and evil, but she's not delusional... honestly she might be more stable and predictable than Juri. Later in the list is where you get to the fully insane ones who are capable of absolutely anything, including eating people.
Great choice, Hibiki is one of the best fighting game characters ever, when it comes to concept, characterization through gameplay progression, etc and a great character all around. An example of how subtle and creative decisions could be implemented more in this genre, to add layers to characters in the games themselves beyond the endings and official websites info, wikis, etc. Edit: Oh also important, the tragic aspect of her descent with how Setsuna the man she's chasing after, already being dead by the time she starts enjoying the killing. So she stained her hands for nothing without knowing and keeps chasing a shadow.
I love the fact that you give so much recognition to the SNK fighters than most people, and that you know specifically about Hibiki's personality change in The Last Blade 2 that's affected by the results of her victories. That aspect has never, to my knowledge, been replicated in any other fighter. Even the games she's guest starred in always made sly references it, but never duplicated.
I am in a position to help champion the lesser known games and companies like Virtua Fighter and SNK. I often do so cause I know nobody else with a channel my size will. I am here for all fighting games, not just Street Fighter and MK.
@@Rooflemonger Love that roofle! I just knew the samsho, kof, ff and aof series from snk, learned about the last blade from this, and might search more on the lore thanks to you! I think the lore and legacy is what makes fighting games great and more enjoyable at the end, and it is thriving thanks to people like you
I'd only ever played a JP version of Last Blade back in the day so I had no idea this was a thing. I'm now very sad that no other fighting game has ever replicated this. It's honestly kind of crazy to me that it hasn't happened again.
My favourite tidbit about Vice is that, if one bit of art by Falcoon is canon, she doesn't just like American comics- she likes Spongebob of all things, too!
Man, I didn’t know about Hibiki literally becoming potentially crazy as you progress her story. That’s legitimately a cool way to portray this archetype of character. You learn something new everyday, great vid Roof!
The way Arc Sys animated A.B.A's jealousy rage is so hauntingly beautiful and is honestly some of the best animation I've seen from a character. There is so much detail you can just pick up: the shadowing of her forehead, the whites in her eyes, and her overall movement is more unhinged compared to her normal state, showing that she capable of doing much more when blinded by jealousy. The same goes for Paracelsus as well, as he is literally tainted by A.B.A's disturbed state more so than anything.That is a genius idea.
Arcsys has been dropping god tier animations in strive, it's wild. ABA is legit just scary and it's entirely conveyed through her art, it's almost uncomfortable to watch.
Hibiki Takane is the greatest example of 'Show, Don't Tell' storytelling in fighting games. And her descent to madness is truly something to behold (and thankfully, Samsho 2019 preserved it). To see her soul darken after defeating a few opponents surely set an ominous tone to her story. SNK truly hit it out of the park with Last Blade's lore.
Love Hibiki getting more recognition! The fact this was implemented all the way back in Last Blade 2 is still one of the coolest gameplay-story merges in any fighting game imo.
@@gr8powerfuloz86 just don't kill people, i think you have to kill every single person before amano to trigger that ending. Only certain moves can actually trigger a "fatality" at the end of a match.
Thinking it through, the SF series really is more a paper tiger in terms of characters being horrific or crazy. That's why AKI was such a shock, since as Roof said, Juri being something of a poser punk had been established by that point. I struggle to think of female characters crazier than these that aren't from something like Thrill Kill. Tira murders people, kidnaps children, Vice is a damn violent cannibal who hangs out with another crazy and their boss is a monster himself, Mileena is essentially a monster in female form, and Hibiki has you see the ethical and moral parts of a person die.
@@Troy-b1k Have you played SF6? She kind of destroys that image pretty hard. She reveals she's kind of just putting on a front. She IS mean and cranky, but she had a good childhood and calls her entire origin in SFIV into question.
@@Rooflemonger Uh, not really? The SF4 OVA where this happens is clearly canon. It was released together with Super Street Fighter 4 to introduce Juri's character and the game itself is full of direct references to it. In Juri and Chun-Li's Rival Fight cutscene in SSF4, Juri asks Chun, "Back for another beating officer?" which is a reference to Juri sending Chun to the hospital in the OVA. Likewise when Juri fights Cammy, the latter says, "I haven't forgotten the sisters of mine you hurt!" which is a direct reference to Juri beating the shit out of all the dolls in the OVA that came with the game. Said OVA is also where Juri's backstory is initially revealed, that Bison killed her parents and wounded her eye, which is later retold in the games, including in SF6 as you showed in this video. So yeah, the OVA is clearly meant to be canon and so is Juri shattering Chun-Li's spine. Though even if it wasn't canon, it's still a part of the character's history, like so many individual character endings that turn out to be what-if scenarios that didn't actually happen, but which are still meant to accurately reflect their characterization. With all that being said, though, I don't think shattering someone's spine is all that crazy since, you know, that can happen in a fight and fighting is what these games are about.
Great list, but very surprised B.B. Hood didn't get a mention (unless it's supposed to be crazy *and* attractive, closer to a harley quinn archetype than just crazy, if so yeah..)
Thinking back about it, Darkstalker has so much of a Cartoonish flavour that you cannot really add Boney Hood on this list. It would be like calling Bugs Bunny a psychopath in the context of Looney Tunes. At least, this would be my reason to not bring her up.
Back home from Florida proper now, so expect a regular video pace again for the next while as I attempt to re-build the algorithm of the channel after the hack (hey, like and subscribe!). Maybe a video soon of Footage I got while I was at CEOtaku/Holiday Matsuri, some fun "end of year" list kinda vids, and also was gonna happen if not for the hack throwing a wrench into everything but the final update on the Rooflebox is coming! Also will be slowly rebuilding the playlists over the next few days. I know not many people use em but that's one of the biggest annoyances of the hack in losing the years of playlists and I want them back
That's Great your going to rebuild your Play Lists. I use them allot. Over the years the only Video game I stuck with was MK. After being a bit bummed at the release of MK1 I had to find a use for the PS5 I bought just to play it. Discovering your Channel and learning about all the Fighting Games I knew nothing about was huge. Your playlist made it easy to discover all these other Fighting Games I never played. I just got Dragon Ball Fighterz and BlazBlue Tag and have been searching your videos to learn about them.
Any End Of Year vid you produce will not go unwatched by me! In fact, all the vids you post are worth watching. Thanks for being you, and thanks for loving fighting games‼️
Excellent list! For me, it’s Baby Bonnie Hood. She may look innocent and cute, yet is one of the scariest characters in the Darkstalkers universe. The insane kicker is that unlike everyone else in the franchise, she’s just an _ordinary_ human!
SNK has a thing for tragic characters. Hibiki stands out because if she becomes a tragic character, it's *your* fault. *You* made her that way, you bloodthirsty monster. She'd likely murder me, but I love Vice so much. If/When Capcom vs. SNK 3 happens, I need Vice and Juri in the game, and they need an intro or unique quotes. I think a distinction between Vice and Mileena worth mentioning, is that even before MK1, she's kind of always wanted a family and/or a relationship with her "sister" Kitana. I'm pretty sure there's a part in MK9 where Mileena gets legitimately sad when Kitana calls her a monster, and Mileena's MK11 Friendship implies what her ideal relationship with Kitana would be.
Nice video! It hits the nail on the head over what makes Juri so appealing- "Yeah, she's showy, disrespectful, rude and insulting... but *I* can save her!"
Man when it came to story in fighting games, SNK was unmatched (still are honestly). I never knew that about Last Blade. Even subtle things like ending the fight with a different move could change the story and character progression and show it so masterfully through win poses and win quotes. SNK are the kings of storytelling in fighting games!
Honestly, hearing Juri won't murder me in my sleep has moved her up a tier or two in my internal waifu tier list. She doesn't want to let people close to her because she's hurting but not letting people get close to her leaves her feeling lonely. That seems surpringly grounded when you look at her outlandish style but as somebody with major depression myself I find it understandable, even relatable. Which is not something I ever imagined I would say about Juri from Street Fighter.
Juri is my favorite SF character for that. Ever since SF4. They flunked a lot of characters except her. Very early in her characterization you had hints that she was pursing revenge to fill the void of her life. However, unlike Chun-Li who never had any type of concluding arc regarding Bison, Juri realized that would not fix her and kind of walked away from it. In her second game even she's in the whole anti-shadaloo just to pass time. SF6 made her even better because you can piece up how badly her trauma left her between her facade and her real hurting side. This is even more authentic than Cammy who's always hidng behind her military/altered/mind goody-two-shoe persona. And AKI as well: Her F.A.N.G thing gets so very tiring, so fast.. No other character gives that many layers in modern SF. She is a sadistic person in kind of realistic and troubled fashion.
@@Zenbrey To be fair, Cammy has her memories erased from her, she's just doing what she thinks she should do, upholding the persona of a tough, capable soldier, but in SF6 she starts being more relaxed and explore other things in life.
@@SoupDumplingDream I see what you mean and that's neat. I guess My problem with Cammy dates back from her transition from SF2 to SF0 and SF5. Cammy in Sf Alpha is a different person from Cammy in Sf2. Merging their stories brought its share of miss and good, but sf5 story mode did no favor to anyone involved. I guess i got burn out of waiting to see her evolve in a direction I would like and just moved on. sf6 Cammy is okay but not that fun to me. Juri on the other end, has subtle but meaningful changes and cracks in her persona in every game. She went from Dark Chun-li in SF4 to Anti-Hero in SF5 to Bitter Lone wolf in SF6. That's more variation in 3 games than most of the SF cast has ever experienced in the entire series.
@@ZenbreyA lone wolf chooses the solitary path. Juri would rather have connections but doesn't know how to make them and has severe abandonment issues. Cammy would likely be on the same boat but she lucked out with Chun, Guile and the Delta Squad.
@@mappybc6097 Yes? She does choose to stay alone. Juri is REALLY attractive and she knows it. She attracts and is attracted to strong people. She knows how to make connections, but dreads the feeling of vulnerability that comes with it. That's why she reacts violently when people hit it on the nail. You can even hint out how she liked her time around C.Viper when she alters her history with S.I.N. Cammy had the "brainwashed by psycho-power" card played for too long. Juri is closer to a person with real struggles and failures.
I’ve been away from “The Tube” for a bit, but last time I made the rounds, your channel was in the middle of some b.s. So glad you managed to bounce back. Hands down my favorite FGC content creator. Salute to you sir.
I feel SV 4 Juri had more of a kill streak especially in the anime short where they show her kill people while on her missions under SIN and later almost killer Chun Li in their 1st fight. But after she become popular, they really down played her being crazy in 5 and 6 by being more of an anti hero, teaming with Cammy, and all the stuff you mentioned in 6’s story, very similar to Harley Quinn who really isn’t a crazy villain anymore
Not even really a downplay, but it is a rather natural direction for the character. It most likely was something that was integrated into her character as a development path when it was obvious she would be a hit since the seeds were planted in SF4. Having her take on a less direct role in the plot she also ends up being more of a directionless wanderer after accomplishing her main goal in SF4's story and part of that is natural to have it be, "Well she's way more chill, closer to how she was before the trauma".
I've always taken Juri as developing into more of an exaggerated example of the delinquent archetype (especially in later games) vs staying within the crazy archetype.
No she is a psycho fact she enjoys hurting and killing she is a delinquent yes but she is all so mad as hell she can be both in real life people have more than one thing that makes them who they are why put her as just one thing?
Hibiki Takane: "Forgive me, but I must do what has to be done..." Also Hibiki Takane: "Excellent, I desire more of this bloodshed..." I would give her a hug, but I dont wanna die...
@@Argosaxelcaos This confirms that her denial and cognitive dissonance is because she isn't coping with the fact she did a horrible act, but that she enjoyed it.
Had no idea about Vice, like. I knew she fought that way and was directly connected to Orochi. But Hibiki blew me away, that's the kinda thing only games can do effectively. Peak
Last Blade 2 makes me feel so old I think it was the first implementation of alternate endings (in fighting games) depending on player choice. Hibiki moveset is designed to be deceptively lethal, it's actually harder to get her pacifist ending.
One that should be in this list: Nu-13, from BlazBlue. Most of the time, she's a basic super-powerful android, largely emotionless and mission-focused. Get her anywhere near the main character of the series, Ragna, though, and she goes complete psycho-stalker. As in, he would be her choice for all of three of the whole "Fuck, Marry, Kill" thing. And to add to the creepiness of that, she's technically a clone of Ragna's sister. And the entire purpose of her existence, that mission she's entirely focused on when not around him? It's to fuse with Ragna in order to become a monster that could destroy the world, the Black Beast. Which she does in the backstory of the series (alternate timeline time loop stuff, BB's story is nuts), and it does wipe out half of all life on Earth and lay waste to multiple countries while fundamentally altering the world forever before it's finally stopped. Yeah, she could give anyone in the video a run for their money or more, really. Vice serving someone who wants to wipe out humanity is about as close as anyone here gets to her.
Nice shout out to Aba from Guilty Gear. Making it not just part of the story, but in her animations is brilliant realization of the concept. Also, I realize for all their characters, Tekken doesn't have a crazy girl and needs one.
13:15 Interesting that she's versus Baiken there. In GGX, the arcade ending where Anji doesn't intercept her in time, and she ends up killing I-No is when she goes insane and becomes a serial killer too.
And not even in the same way Mileena is, at least you could chalk it up to her being a clone with Tarkatan DNA or in MK1, she's diseased but Vice is a regular human that EATS PEOPLE!
Did you do the same with other female stereotypes? Like "tough bombshell blondes" or a lead stoic (usually asian) ladies or a spoiled bratty ones with "rich princess" syndrome etc...for tough blonshell blondes you have iconic characters like Sonya, Nina or Cammy, for stoic female leads you have Chun-Li, Kitana or Jun Kazama, for bratty ones you have Lili, Karin or B.Jenet. Etc...
I was thinking about how there are quite a few for male characters too, the crazy guy who wants to destroy everything ( kazuya, shang tsung, shao Kahn, m bison, JP) the Bruce Lee character (forest and marshall, Liu Kang, fei long) egotistical character who also knows hand to hand combat (Johnny cage, Lee, Jamie) military guy ( guile, dragunov, jax) pretty interesting lol, also I'd say they are more "archetypes" than "stereotypes"
@@Iamhappy_22 Oh but there are more than just a few...the main lead "chosen one" heroic stereotype, think of Ryu, Liu Kang, Jago from KI. There is always a friend or a sidekick of that character too, think of Ken, Kung Lao or Ryo Sakazaki (close buddy with Kyo, aka one of KoF ecntral protags). Then you have craz megolamaniac "mastermind" villain archetype who wants to conquer everything think of M.Bison, Shao Kahn or Aria (Sentient robot chic from KI), then you have Big muscled hulky overpowered brutes like Zangief, Goro or Jack series robots models from Tekken. And so on...i was just focusing solely on females...
@@Iamhappy_22 I wouldn't mind a most "Over the top black character". Arcade fighters had us completely out of pocket with some of their designs! Archetype and stereotype all in one!! 😭😭
Roof, I love when you ask questions that are fun in the fighting game sense. For my choice in fighting games Is either AKI, Hibiki, or Vice. Personally I’m picking Hibiki cause I love her, even though it’s probably Vice. It’s definitely not JURI she is just a troll or an upset kid. The other girls I named make her look tame in comparison. As always Roof I love your vids.
Wow man, thanks for the lowdown on Hibiki! I knew of her from Last Blade before I played her in CvS2, and I thought she was a strange, but awesome addition to the cast. But I never realized that you could influence the story in playthroughs of Last Blade. That is such an interesting character development in a story mode of a fighting game.
i really do love how hibiki works as a form of storytelling in fighting games, it's the kind you don't really see a lot of (probably due to things like limited capacity to make "choices" in a fighting game) but i'd love to see more fighting games do things like this or like killer instinct 2's weird alternate endings if you like, break stage walls
Mileena is more than definitely the main #1 crazy girl in Mortal Kombat, tho I would also argue some others are as close to her like Scarlet who has a blood fetish & Ferra who's an very unstable child wanting to cut people for fun. Also speaking of which there's Hisako from Killer Instinct as well.
Vice is the second oldest crazy fighting girl and been fan of her since day 1 in 1996. VICE 4 LIFE! 💜💜🖤🖤 BTW, Nice choice putting Arashii 5 as the background music... because, well, this represents Vice.
Hibiki was a great pick for Samurai Shodown, if a new The Last Blade doesn't come out I'd at least like to see her appear again in some other collaboration.
hibikis arcade route is some of the best cases of story telling in fighting games i have seen, and she is actually one of my favourite fighting game characters of all time i kinda wish we got an anime about her descent into madness, it would be chilling
I will add a rather obscure one but a really crazy one: Saki Shinjo, from Advanced V.G. 2 on PS, one of my favorite Fighting Games ever! Described as a sadistic, cold-blooded killer who fights for the sake of her own bloodlust. I always seen her as a mix of Iori Yagami and Ryuji Yamazaki type of lunacy! Her clawing and kicking techniques are brutal and ruff, her look, voice, and physique scream psychopathic maniac! If she were to be in a modern FG, she would definitely be in this list and an S-Tier character. Definitely one to look for.
I'm very surprised at missing Izanami in BBCF, but it's ok, because I learned something interesting about Vice and Hibiki, who I didn't know existed. Man, I really gotta try some SNK stuff someday.
@@Rooflemonger Juri and Harley are nothing alike only thing they have is both chicks both crazy and the fans like em that's it. Why the hell do you hate Juri so much? It's kind of sad really.
I feel like Nu from BlazBlue should be here as she's your standard yandere. While not the craziest, I think she's above average as in her first appearance she proudly announces to Ragna (Her love interest) that they are in a time loop and she kills him over and over and over again.
Wow, Hibiki being at the number one spot was interesting because of how she is, at one point a nice girl then slowly becoming the girl that will cut her opponents down while having blood on her face with a smirk on it. Is truly a trope that needs to be used more often
So lets have a fun one for today, inspired by a twitter post I made a whiles back that went viral cause people love their crazy ladies! Can you fix her? Probably not, but its fun to talk about so lets go over some of the more unhinged gals of Fighting Games!
You’re not wrong Roof, AKI and Hibiki are proper crazy ladies. And guess what they don’t need to be fixed, they are perfect as they are. If anything they can make me worse.
There is no way in the world you can make this list without bulletta from darkstalkers...she is the craziest girl in fightning game without sharing the spot with nobody else, none of the characters comes close to her. Nice vid aside of that
One character I feel you should bring up is Nu-13 from the BlazBlue series. Normally, her personality is more akin to a machine. But when you have her face off against Ragna, her entire demeanor changes. Something to note about BlazBlue is that whatever the characters say during gameplay changes when you have them face off against certain people.
With Nu-13, she starts showing a lot more personality around Ragna. Unfortunately, that personality involves that of a cheerful psychopath obsessively in love with Ragna, made worse by the fact that Nu is literally an artificial clone of his sister.
Said an actor: "playing bad guys in movies is way more fun than to be the hero " that's my reasoning when choosing mains in fg's.
Almost all of them are in this video: Juri, Mature and Vice, Tira, I-No, Hibiki, Freeman, Nightmare, Juri from Galaxy fight (play that game, please), Garuda, Billy Kane, among the first that I can remember.
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I don't play much FGs but Hibiki always stood out to me as such a unique case of player cruelty potential, especially for fighting games.
Juri at the bottom and Vice and Hibiki on top, Rooflemonger truly knows his shit
No Juri should be at the top this asshole knows nothing Hbiki is not crazy.
Vice had to be there
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What I find really interesting about Hibiki's story is how she will never run into Setsuna, her father's killer, in her arcade mode. This means Hibiki never gets her revenge and her evil ending leaves her wondering and killing anyone with a sword having forgotten the noble purpose of her quest. Alternatively, if the player doesn't kill with her, Hibiki gives up seeking revenge and travels the world with her new boyfriend.
i don't remember ever being stated that amano was his boyfriend, but someone who is looking after the daughter of his late friend.
AKI makes Juri look like a sweet little harmless Angel. It’s crazy because I love Juri that’s my girl.
Juri deff the stronger one lore wise
@ you’re absolutely right, I was just saying AKI is a tad bit crazier. However if we’re talking pugilistic skills, Juri got her good. Juri was my main in SF5 and still my main in SF6.
@@BoyBlaze2002 heh. Pun.
As this video correctly shows though, even Aki isn't off the charts crazy. She has no sense of morality and is obsessed with the way that poison affects people, but she's still a functional human being. She probably has plenty of seemingly normal days where she's just doing some research and enjoying her day. She's dangerous and evil, but she's not delusional... honestly she might be more stable and predictable than Juri.
Later in the list is where you get to the fully insane ones who are capable of absolutely anything, including eating people.
I love Juri, too. She's amazing.
ironic how the craziest girl isn't the one displaying/showing it outside but the most calm out of all the girls here.
Women be shoppin'...
At least animes and eastern games portrayed them better than in western shows/games
because it works the same way irl, loudest dogs have no bite and the calmest man in the room is the deadliest
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Could one label Hibiki as a Yandere girl?
11:37 Hibiki says "Because you are weak, it's come to this." chilling stuff
Great choice, Hibiki is one of the best fighting game characters ever, when it comes to concept, characterization through gameplay progression, etc and a great character all around. An example of how subtle and creative decisions could be implemented more in this genre, to add layers to characters in the games themselves beyond the endings and official websites info, wikis, etc. Edit: Oh also important, the tragic aspect of her descent with how Setsuna the man she's chasing after, already being dead by the time she starts enjoying the killing. So she stained her hands for nothing without knowing and keeps chasing a shadow.
What? Killing le people have le consequences?
Hibiki isn't part of the "I can fix her" meme. She don't give a fuck.
neither do I but I can handle all dat
She part of the "you broke her" meme.
She more the "This better not awaken anything in me" meme 😂!
@@tek87
Most accurate description
the music from when Hibiki win is also melnacholic, making her journey into coldblooded murderer is more sad than ever.
the whole Last Blade 2 sound track is melancholic as it happens after the bakkumatsu.
@@GilesFAhrun Yeah some stages don't even have music, it just ambient sounds like fire or rain. It's a depressing vibe
It's the regular victory music, but yeah, it sounds quite melancholic with her
I love the fact that you give so much recognition to the SNK fighters than most people, and that you know specifically about Hibiki's personality change in The Last Blade 2 that's affected by the results of her victories. That aspect has never, to my knowledge, been replicated in any other fighter. Even the games she's guest starred in always made sly references it, but never duplicated.
I am in a position to help champion the lesser known games and companies like Virtua Fighter and SNK. I often do so cause I know nobody else with a channel my size will. I am here for all fighting games, not just Street Fighter and MK.
@@Rooflemonger Juri is psycho don't care what you or the`lore says
@@Rooflemonger Love that roofle! I just knew the samsho, kof, ff and aof series from snk, learned about the last blade from this, and might search more on the lore thanks to you! I think the lore and legacy is what makes fighting games great and more enjoyable at the end, and it is thriving thanks to people like you
I'd only ever played a JP version of Last Blade back in the day so I had no idea this was a thing. I'm now very sad that no other fighting game has ever replicated this. It's honestly kind of crazy to me that it hasn't happened again.
My favourite tidbit about Vice is that, if one bit of art by Falcoon is canon, she doesn't just like American comics- she likes Spongebob of all things, too!
Vice (KoF) 🤝 Marvel's Thor
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Man, I didn’t know about Hibiki literally becoming potentially crazy as you progress her story. That’s legitimately a cool way to portray this archetype of character. You learn something new everyday, great vid Roof!
The way Arc Sys animated A.B.A's jealousy rage is so hauntingly beautiful and is honestly some of the best animation I've seen from a character. There is so much detail you can just pick up: the shadowing of her forehead, the whites in her eyes, and her overall movement is more unhinged compared to her normal state, showing that she capable of doing much more when blinded by jealousy.
The same goes for Paracelsus as well, as he is literally tainted by A.B.A's disturbed state more so than anything.That is a genius idea.
Arcsys has been dropping god tier animations in strive, it's wild. ABA is legit just scary and it's entirely conveyed through her art, it's almost uncomfortable to watch.
I'm glad bloodlust hibiki is a costume and not an install. Too many games/shows make being comfortable with killing an upgrade.
Well, its a sword fighting game. Kinda hard to fight non lethal with one
Raiden: 👀
@@massgunner4152 Mortal Kombat or Metal Gear?
Hibiki Takane is the greatest example of 'Show, Don't Tell' storytelling in fighting games. And her descent to madness is truly something to behold (and thankfully, Samsho 2019 preserved it). To see her soul darken after defeating a few opponents surely set an ominous tone to her story. SNK truly hit it out of the park with Last Blade's lore.
Hibik is trash Juri is better not a fake crazy like her
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Love Hibiki getting more recognition! The fact this was implemented all the way back in Last Blade 2 is still one of the coolest gameplay-story merges in any fighting game imo.
Wow, never knew that stuff about Hibiki. Well done, Roofle
If ya learned something i did my job right
@@Rooflemongerso how do you win without causing her to go the dark path?
@@gr8powerfuloz86 just don't kill people, i think you have to kill every single person before amano to trigger that ending. Only certain moves can actually trigger a "fatality" at the end of a match.
Thinking it through, the SF series really is more a paper tiger in terms of characters being horrific or crazy. That's why AKI was such a shock, since as Roof said, Juri being something of a poser punk had been established by that point. I struggle to think of female characters crazier than these that aren't from something like Thrill Kill. Tira murders people, kidnaps children, Vice is a damn violent cannibal who hangs out with another crazy and their boss is a monster himself, Mileena is essentially a monster in female form, and Hibiki has you see the ethical and moral parts of a person die.
Juri Han is not a poser punk she is psycho so yeah.
@@Troy-b1k Have you played SF6? She kind of destroys that image pretty hard. She reveals she's kind of just putting on a front. She IS mean and cranky, but she had a good childhood and calls her entire origin in SFIV into question.
@Troy-b1kJuri is my main and all that, she rules. But she's absolutely using a gimmick personality and not actually crazy at all.
Tira, Vice and Mileena are my favs because they pretty much embody the term "on sight"
To throw Juri a bone, she did canonically shatter Chun-Li’s spine in one of the Street Fighter 4 animated films. I’d say that’s pretty crazy
well to un-bone juri, the sf4 animated films are not canon, nothing outside the games is canon unfortunately(even though so many of them should be)
@@Rooflemonger Uh, not really? The SF4 OVA where this happens is clearly canon. It was released together with Super Street Fighter 4 to introduce Juri's character and the game itself is full of direct references to it. In Juri and Chun-Li's Rival Fight cutscene in SSF4, Juri asks Chun, "Back for another beating officer?" which is a reference to Juri sending Chun to the hospital in the OVA.
Likewise when Juri fights Cammy, the latter says, "I haven't forgotten the sisters of mine you hurt!" which is a direct reference to Juri beating the shit out of all the dolls in the OVA that came with the game.
Said OVA is also where Juri's backstory is initially revealed, that Bison killed her parents and wounded her eye, which is later retold in the games, including in SF6 as you showed in this video.
So yeah, the OVA is clearly meant to be canon and so is Juri shattering Chun-Li's spine. Though even if it wasn't canon, it's still a part of the character's history, like so many individual character endings that turn out to be what-if scenarios that didn't actually happen, but which are still meant to accurately reflect their characterization.
With all that being said, though, I don't think shattering someone's spine is all that crazy since, you know, that can happen in a fight and fighting is what these games are about.
@@Rooflemonger To bone on top of the bone. That doesn't really count as crazy. Bodily harm is just an occupational hazard.
That’s not crazy. That’s brutal. Important difference.
@@Rooflemonger What about "Back for another beating, officer?" in Super Street Fighter 4?
Great list, but very surprised B.B. Hood didn't get a mention (unless it's supposed to be crazy *and* attractive, closer to a harley quinn archetype than just crazy, if so yeah..)
B.B. Hood is an absolute gremlin.
Thinking back about it, Darkstalker has so much of a Cartoonish flavour that you cannot really add Boney Hood on this list.
It would be like calling Bugs Bunny a psychopath in the context of Looney Tunes.
At least, this would be my reason to not bring her up.
@@ZenbreyDarkstalker took inspiration from Tom & Jerry iirc
Back home from Florida proper now, so expect a regular video pace again for the next while as I attempt to re-build the algorithm of the channel after the hack (hey, like and subscribe!). Maybe a video soon of Footage I got while I was at CEOtaku/Holiday Matsuri, some fun "end of year" list kinda vids, and also was gonna happen if not for the hack throwing a wrench into everything but the final update on the Rooflebox is coming! Also will be slowly rebuilding the playlists over the next few days. I know not many people use em but that's one of the biggest annoyances of the hack in losing the years of playlists and I want them back
That's Great your going to rebuild your Play Lists. I use them allot.
Over the years the only Video game I stuck with was MK. After being a bit bummed at the release of MK1 I had to find a use for the PS5 I bought just to play it. Discovering your Channel and learning about all the Fighting Games I knew nothing about was huge. Your playlist made it easy to discover all these other Fighting Games I never played. I just got Dragon Ball Fighterz and BlazBlue Tag and have been searching your videos to learn about them.
Yes please, show us what you got up to at CEOTAKU. If u can post any official duties you had over there
Any End Of Year vid you produce will not go unwatched by me!
In fact, all the vids you post are worth watching.
Thanks for being you, and thanks for loving fighting games‼️
Well done you made me hate two new characters AKI and Hidiki
Fun fact: even Rugal felt uncomfortable next to Vice when she served as his secretary.
Hibiki Takane is such a compelling character in fighting game lore.
Excellent list! For me, it’s Baby Bonnie Hood. She may look innocent and cute, yet is one of the scariest characters in the Darkstalkers universe. The insane kicker is that unlike everyone else in the franchise, she’s just an _ordinary_ human!
It os their take on "the REAL monster was the man all along"
@@TigerGoblin Yeah, that's what I love about her, plus her simple and effective character design: Little Red Riding Hood as an assassin!
“Red Riding Hood if she pulled out the strap” is how I describe her.
She’s also one of my many mains in Marvel 2.
SNK has a thing for tragic characters. Hibiki stands out because if she becomes a tragic character, it's *your* fault. *You* made her that way, you bloodthirsty monster.
She'd likely murder me, but I love Vice so much. If/When Capcom vs. SNK 3 happens, I need Vice and Juri in the game, and they need an intro or unique quotes.
I think a distinction between Vice and Mileena worth mentioning, is that even before MK1, she's kind of always wanted a family and/or a relationship with her "sister" Kitana. I'm pretty sure there's a part in MK9 where Mileena gets legitimately sad when Kitana calls her a monster, and Mileena's MK11 Friendship implies what her ideal relationship with Kitana would be.
True, no one's story is more tragic than American Sports Team, on a meta level.
Her story is shite
Nice video! It hits the nail on the head over what makes Juri so appealing- "Yeah, she's showy, disrespectful, rude and insulting... but *I* can save her!"
Man when it came to story in fighting games, SNK was unmatched (still are honestly).
I never knew that about Last Blade. Even subtle things like ending the fight with a different move could change the story and character progression and show it so masterfully through win poses and win quotes. SNK are the kings of storytelling in fighting games!
Honestly, hearing Juri won't murder me in my sleep has moved her up a tier or two in my internal waifu tier list. She doesn't want to let people close to her because she's hurting but not letting people get close to her leaves her feeling lonely. That seems surpringly grounded when you look at her outlandish style but as somebody with major depression myself I find it understandable, even relatable. Which is not something I ever imagined I would say about Juri from Street Fighter.
Juri is my favorite SF character for that. Ever since SF4. They flunked a lot of characters except her.
Very early in her characterization you had hints that she was pursing revenge to fill the void of her life.
However, unlike Chun-Li who never had any type of concluding arc regarding Bison, Juri realized that would not fix her and kind of walked away from it. In her second game even she's in the whole anti-shadaloo just to pass time.
SF6 made her even better because you can piece up how badly her trauma left her between her facade and her real hurting side.
This is even more authentic than Cammy who's always hidng behind her military/altered/mind goody-two-shoe persona. And AKI as well: Her F.A.N.G thing gets so very tiring, so fast..
No other character gives that many layers in modern SF. She is a sadistic person in kind of realistic and troubled fashion.
@@Zenbrey To be fair, Cammy has her memories erased from her, she's just doing what she thinks she should do, upholding the persona of a tough, capable soldier, but in SF6 she starts being more relaxed and explore other things in life.
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I see what you mean and that's neat.
I guess My problem with Cammy dates back from her transition from SF2 to SF0 and SF5.
Cammy in Sf Alpha is a different person from Cammy in Sf2. Merging their stories brought its share of miss and good, but sf5 story mode did no favor to anyone involved.
I guess i got burn out of waiting to see her evolve in a direction I would like and just moved on. sf6 Cammy is okay but not that fun to me.
Juri on the other end, has subtle but meaningful changes and cracks in her persona in every game. She went from Dark Chun-li in SF4 to Anti-Hero in SF5 to Bitter Lone wolf in SF6. That's more variation in 3 games than most of the SF cast has ever experienced in the entire series.
@@ZenbreyA lone wolf chooses the solitary path. Juri would rather have connections but doesn't know how to make them and has severe abandonment issues.
Cammy would likely be on the same boat but she lucked out with Chun, Guile and the Delta Squad.
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Yes? She does choose to stay alone.
Juri is REALLY attractive and she knows it. She attracts and is attracted to strong people. She knows how to make connections, but dreads the feeling of vulnerability that comes with it. That's why she reacts violently when people hit it on the nail. You can even hint out how she liked her time around C.Viper when she alters her history with S.I.N.
Cammy had the "brainwashed by psycho-power" card played for too long.
Juri is closer to a person with real struggles and failures.
I’ve been away from “The Tube” for a bit, but last time I made the rounds, your channel was in the middle of some b.s.
So glad you managed to bounce back. Hands down my favorite FGC content creator. Salute to you sir.
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I feel SV 4 Juri had more of a kill streak especially in the anime short where they show her kill people while on her missions under SIN and later almost killer Chun Li in their 1st fight. But after she become popular, they really down played her being crazy in 5 and 6 by being more of an anti hero, teaming with Cammy, and all the stuff you mentioned in 6’s story, very similar to Harley Quinn who really isn’t a crazy villain anymore
Not even really a downplay, but it is a rather natural direction for the character. It most likely was something that was integrated into her character as a development path when it was obvious she would be a hit since the seeds were planted in SF4. Having her take on a less direct role in the plot she also ends up being more of a directionless wanderer after accomplishing her main goal in SF4's story and part of that is natural to have it be, "Well she's way more chill, closer to how she was before the trauma".
I've always taken Juri as developing into more of an exaggerated example of the delinquent archetype (especially in later games) vs staying within the crazy archetype.
No she is a psycho fact she enjoys hurting and killing she is a delinquent yes but she is all so mad as hell she can be both in real life people have more than one thing that makes them who they are why put her as just one thing?
Hibiki Takane: "Forgive me, but I must do what has to be done..."
Also Hibiki Takane: "Excellent, I desire more of this bloodshed..."
I would give her a hug, but I dont wanna die...
Best part is that it's all meaningless. Her entire quest is to reclaim Setsuna's sword, and she doesn't meet him at all in either path.
@@Argosaxelcaos This confirms that her denial and cognitive dissonance is because she isn't coping with the fact she did a horrible act, but that she enjoyed it.
Love those videos that talk about character perks, lore and personality. Thank you for posting!
Had no idea about Vice, like. I knew she fought that way and was directly connected to Orochi. But Hibiki blew me away, that's the kinda thing only games can do effectively. Peak
Amano is more a reverse Dan.
Now I’m convinced to try out Last Blade.
The gameplay still holds up. They really should revive some of these old FG franchises (looking at you, Darkstalkers) as they're still awesome.
same here
Never heard of Hibiki, cool character to learn about. Thanks for the video man 😊
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Tira 🎭
Juri turned less crazy when Mbison plucked out her eye in 5 . He did her a favour lol
the eyes are windows to madness 🤔
Great video. Definitely enjoyed learning more about Vice and Hibiki.
Last Blade 2 makes me feel so old
I think it was the first implementation of alternate endings (in fighting games) depending on player choice.
Hibiki moveset is designed to be deceptively lethal, it's actually harder to get her pacifist ending.
One that should be in this list: Nu-13, from BlazBlue. Most of the time, she's a basic super-powerful android, largely emotionless and mission-focused. Get her anywhere near the main character of the series, Ragna, though, and she goes complete psycho-stalker. As in, he would be her choice for all of three of the whole "Fuck, Marry, Kill" thing. And to add to the creepiness of that, she's technically a clone of Ragna's sister.
And the entire purpose of her existence, that mission she's entirely focused on when not around him? It's to fuse with Ragna in order to become a monster that could destroy the world, the Black Beast. Which she does in the backstory of the series (alternate timeline time loop stuff, BB's story is nuts), and it does wipe out half of all life on Earth and lay waste to multiple countries while fundamentally altering the world forever before it's finally stopped.
Yeah, she could give anyone in the video a run for their money or more, really. Vice serving someone who wants to wipe out humanity is about as close as anyone here gets to her.
My favorite part about nu-13 is her laughter, or when she actually rages.
Yet again blazblue getting forgotten
Prob wouldn't be on the list even if BB was remembered since she isn't a unhinged person anymore
@@LunaPPK so what if she is not unhinged anymore she was crazy for a while
I love how Juri turnoud out in SF6 and seeing her backstory really made me appreciate her 10 times more.
No B.B.Hood? That chick scares monsters....in a game about overpower monsters...
It's me, I am crazy like Vice and this is correct
Best video topic of the year
Nice shout out to Aba from Guilty Gear. Making it not just part of the story, but in her animations is brilliant realization of the concept.
Also, I realize for all their characters, Tekken doesn't have a crazy girl and needs one.
13:15 Interesting that she's versus Baiken there. In GGX, the arcade ending where Anji doesn't intercept her in time, and she ends up killing I-No is when she goes insane and becomes a serial killer too.
Vice is a cannibal that ends this entire conversation
And not even in the same way Mileena is, at least you could chalk it up to her being a clone with Tarkatan DNA or in MK1, she's diseased but Vice is a regular human that EATS PEOPLE!
Comment for the algorithm God, also ty roofle for the crazy girls on my feed at 6 am ❤
Most people don't know the absolute hell Tira subjected Pyrrha to.
sophitias kids deserve whatever they got and worse for turning SCV into what it was
Props to the voice actresses on all these crazy ladies
Hibiki needs to be in more games. Such a unique and interesting character. If they still add more characters to KOF XV, she should be one of them.
I’m happy that Vice was so high up, she’s one of my favorite KOF characters. Her idle stance in 2002 is probably my favorite.
That was an epic presentation!
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Imagine a fusion between Chun-Li and Juri if this was Dragon Ball universe 🔥 How strong Churi could have been 😎
Wow... I think this video pretty much clocked all the characters I know/love that originate from a fighting game first and foremost O_O great job!! 👍🏿
I appreciate you making this video for me in particular brother.
Did you do the same with other female stereotypes? Like "tough bombshell blondes" or a lead stoic (usually asian) ladies or a spoiled bratty ones with "rich princess" syndrome etc...for tough blonshell blondes you have iconic characters like Sonya, Nina or Cammy, for stoic female leads you have Chun-Li, Kitana or Jun Kazama, for bratty ones you have Lili, Karin or B.Jenet. Etc...
Def never made a video like that to date yet.
I was thinking about how there are quite a few for male characters too, the crazy guy who wants to destroy everything ( kazuya, shang tsung, shao Kahn, m bison, JP) the Bruce Lee character (forest and marshall, Liu Kang, fei long) egotistical character who also knows hand to hand combat (Johnny cage, Lee, Jamie) military guy ( guile, dragunov, jax) pretty interesting lol, also I'd say they are more "archetypes" than "stereotypes"
@@Iamhappy_22 Oh but there are more than just a few...the main lead "chosen one" heroic stereotype, think of Ryu, Liu Kang, Jago from KI. There is always a friend or a sidekick of that character too, think of Ken, Kung Lao or Ryo Sakazaki (close buddy with Kyo, aka one of KoF ecntral protags). Then you have craz megolamaniac "mastermind" villain archetype who wants to conquer everything think of M.Bison, Shao Kahn or Aria (Sentient robot chic from KI), then you have Big muscled hulky overpowered brutes like Zangief, Goro or Jack series robots models from Tekken. And so on...i was just focusing solely on females...
@@Iamhappy_22 I wouldn't mind a most "Over the top black character". Arcade fighters had us completely out of pocket with some of their designs! Archetype and stereotype all in one!! 😭😭
Hibiki is just too cool, and too good of an idea to leave behind in the 90s and early 2000s.
I hope SNK brings her back more often, somehow.
4:35 FYI ArcSys updated their bios during the Slayer update, and Paracelsus is officially her husband now.
I guess Nu 13 didn’t make this list cause she only goes sicko mode for Ragna
I feel like we could make a case for Hisako from Killer Instinct, maybe not for first but up there
I don't see her as crazy more like undead, she's still duty bound to her village but just expresses it in a way only a vengeful ghost can.
I didn’t know about Hibiki! What a cool concept!
Roof, I love when you ask questions that are fun in the fighting game sense.
For my choice in fighting games Is either AKI, Hibiki, or Vice. Personally I’m picking Hibiki cause I love her, even though it’s probably Vice.
It’s definitely not JURI she is just a troll or an upset kid. The other girls I named make her look tame in comparison. As always Roof I love your vids.
How TF did it take 7 days for this to show up in my feed?
THIS IS EXACTLY THE THING I LOOK FOR
the ol' algorithm is still repairing itself after the hack
Wow man, thanks for the lowdown on Hibiki! I knew of her from Last Blade before I played her in CvS2, and I thought she was a strange, but awesome addition to the cast. But I never realized that you could influence the story in playthroughs of Last Blade. That is such an interesting character development in a story mode of a fighting game.
i really do love how hibiki works as a form of storytelling in fighting games, it's the kind you don't really see a lot of (probably due to things like limited capacity to make "choices" in a fighting game) but i'd love to see more fighting games do things like this or like killer instinct 2's weird alternate endings if you like, break stage walls
Mileena is more than definitely the main #1 crazy girl in Mortal Kombat, tho I would also argue some others are as close to her like Scarlet who has a blood fetish & Ferra who's an very unstable child wanting to cut people for fun.
Also speaking of which there's Hisako from Killer Instinct as well.
Vice is a comic book fan, you can't get crazier than that
Speaking for me, the craziest girl I ever met in fighting was the boss from MatriMelee.
0:12 - I know I sure do!
Vice is the second oldest crazy fighting girl and been fan of her since day 1 in 1996. VICE 4 LIFE! 💜💜🖤🖤
BTW, Nice choice putting Arashii 5 as the background music... because, well, this represents Vice.
Fun idea, enjoyable video thanks
Vice has me acting unwise
finally a video everybody can get behind
Hibiki was a great pick for Samurai Shodown, if a new The Last Blade doesn't come out I'd at least like to see her appear again in some other collaboration.
That story about Hibiki is SO INTERESTING!
BB Hood and Riptor come to mind. BB Hood because, you know. And Riptor because she is a freakin' dinosaur!
hibikis arcade route is some of the best cases of story telling in fighting games i have seen, and she is actually one of my favourite fighting game characters of all time
i kinda wish we got an anime about her descent into madness, it would be chilling
god we need a new last blade
Hibiki. Yeah the way she was handled is crazy but in a good way. SamSho did good with her.
"I can fix her" tier list
I think this video made me realize I have a type. Most these are my mains in said games.
2:50 luckiest Shadaloo soldier ever
Tira - Soul Calibur III
"is that supposed to be mean?" could be a great de-escalation tool, or it could backfire i dunno
Juri definitely evolved through SF4, 5 and 6. From revenge/blind morals to rebel that will lend a hand to the good guys if need be.
I can imagine all these girls in one tournament where Juri is just like oh shit these girls are insane lol
Conclusion: you CAN fix Juri
I was expecting Skarlet to be mentioned here especially her mk9 version, she was pure evil.
I will add a rather obscure one but a really crazy one: Saki Shinjo, from Advanced V.G. 2 on PS, one of my favorite Fighting Games ever!
Described as a sadistic, cold-blooded killer who fights for the sake of her own bloodlust. I always seen her as a mix of Iori Yagami and Ryuji Yamazaki type of lunacy!
Her clawing and kicking techniques are brutal and ruff, her look, voice, and physique scream psychopathic maniac!
If she were to be in a modern FG, she would definitely be in this list and an S-Tier character. Definitely one to look for.
even if you combine all the 6 characters again they can't even compare to Juri han .😂💀
I'm very surprised at missing Izanami in BBCF, but it's ok, because I learned something interesting about Vice and Hibiki, who I didn't know existed.
Man, I really gotta try some SNK stuff someday.
Juri cannot be compared to anyone . it is UNIQUE .
End of the conversation 💀
I appreciate the enthusiasm, I hope nobody ever tells you about harley quinn
@@Rooflemonger Juri and Harley are nothing alike only thing they have is both chicks both crazy and the fans like em that's it. Why the hell do you hate Juri so much? It's kind of sad really.
I feel like Nu from BlazBlue should be here as she's your standard yandere. While not the craziest, I think she's above average as in her first appearance she proudly announces to Ragna (Her love interest) that they are in a time loop and she kills him over and over and over again.
Wow, Hibiki being at the number one spot was interesting because of how she is, at one point a nice girl then slowly becoming the girl that will cut her opponents down while having blood on her face with a smirk on it. Is truly a trope that needs to be used more often
The Last Blade 2 is so good i miss playing it