that's a good thing though. overwatch is for beyond a reasonable doubt only. I swear sometimes when I watch my own demos, I get more suspicious of myself than that guy 🤣🤣🤣
Personally, I believe that when anybody who earns money through playing video games, is caught cheating, they get charged for fraud. As they're falsely representing the service they offer. If a product is described as "hand-made", and turns out it was entirely manufactured by machine, that's fraud, right?
In the US there was this pair of dudes who got caught stuffing fish for a competition (it was judged by weight), and they took over 30k in winnings over a year or two, and when they were caught, they ended up charged with fraud.
For real, my opinion on shit like this is they deserve to be charged heavily enough that they lose all the money they made and then some since that's the risk they took, and even deserve some jail time too.
A lot of the time after this amount of experience, you can just tell there's a cheater. There's a "feel" to it based on info, shots, even just movement around the map and positioning.
@@727V Yess just because they are able to see through walls that changes the scenario and mainly affects their movements Something kinda like subconscious One side of their brain focuses on how to hide hacks and not get caught And Other side of the brain focuses on where are the enemies is someone Behind the door are they flanking are they going to the different site etc Once you get used to cheating you destroy your normal game
The main problem, IMO, is that just giving the info is enough to have a large impact on the outcome of a match. And that cannot be detected via overwatch.
@@vladvlad48 I disagree, he played perfectly, never dominated so hard that everyone flagged him, tried to just eek out a win and win they did. Expert level cheating, still caught, lifetime ban or bust.
@@QueekHeadtakerope His movement is garbo He panics and plays like a paranoid schizo and some of his decisions make no sense for that level of play Usually if someone on a semi pro level cheats and they are good even without cheats they would play it much more differently but this garbo is 2k elo tops judging by his overall skill as a player (mechanical and gamesense)
You can tell when someone is hiding cheats by the amount of times they get bad timing. Even the best players with the best game sense get bad timing. This guy what what I saw here never had a truly bad timing moment. At least once in any given game you're going to look away from an angle that someone peeks right before they do. You're going to not check the specific angle they're in or similar things. This guy seemed like he only died because he missed shots and to be honest, his mechanical skill was a give away too.
id say the only thing close to a bad timing moment is on ancient round 13 when he holds mid from spawn, he looks away when the ct silently peaks and sprints back to kill him. Maybe a fake bad timing
@@WhiteLivesMatterPL I mean the same thing, so either he's a silver or an ak player, but he's as unlucky as a cheater would not be so unlucky.. as much as he died, so no, he's clean.
man couldnt aim couldnt hit headshots had dog shit movement and the biggest giveaway imo was how he peaks angles, with no information 90% of the time he would just swing past multiple closers angles to the one the other players were at. in fact almost every time he was killed was because he swung past 2 players got the kill on one guy but the other guy traded him out.
The craziest part is how hard it is to tell if he's cheating or not without comms. I don't think the confidence in rotations is that big of a dead giveaway, but you could always give the benefit of the doubt if that info could've been given by vigilant teammates. For instance, they could have heard 3 footsteps, or just deduced how much utility was being used simultaneously to call the execute. I think what really gave it away was the fact that he sprayed into empty smoke after hearing the defuse. You can see where the bomb is on the minimap and there was absolutely no reason to be spraying those empty spots when he was up a teammate.
I hear you. That's the problem with pro-scene cheating. Especially with the very advanced cheats that are being produced today, meant to closely mimic human behavior. People need to put in all those 10,000 hours to understand the flow of the game, the positioning and every little detail to get that feeling in the stomach when something "lucky" happens a bit too often. That's why the cheating (and accusations) in lower levels have spiraled out of control, because people can't tell skill from cheats unless it's someone basically following you with a crosshair through the wall like we're still in 2001. Bad players refuse to admit that they suck and seem unwilling to understand that professionals can also be cheaters. A prime example is Call of Duty, a game completely ruined by cheaters, condoned by the gaming company itself. Warzone became absolutely unplayable, the Covid era Twitch "pro" streamers destroyed it with third-party software and everyone else just tagged along to stand a chance, and multiplayer is now in the gutter because of it.
Hindsight is such a thing, if he didn't get banned for cheating there's no way I would say he's cheating from these demos. You say a lot "oh look how he did this at the perfect time and how he wasn't worried about X" but you're not taking into account that he has team mates with eyes and ears that could have given him much of the info that would lead to him knowing that stuff or the fact that sometimes people make the wrong play (like not checking a certain angle) which ends up being the right play (because no enemy was there) which makes it look like they knew too much info but in reality they just forgot about the other possibilities. I've watched my own demos and seen far more blatant things such as locking on enemies through walls, having perfect timing on peeks ect and I know for a fact that I don't cheat. Anyone who watches this demo and says "I could tell he was cheating" is either lying or has a very poor understanding of this game, the only thing a little suspicious about this guy is his movement, it's not insanely bad but it's not what you'd expect of someone at a high level but that's not definitive either, the former major winning pro Zeus had awful movement but he was a pro and even rarely had dominating performances over other top level pros.
I think that this guy might have been more blatant on previous matches on this tournament and there is this moment that seems like glitch on soft aimlock at 2:51.
@@jermu9607 It is possible and the thing at 2:51 looks like a demo bug, it happens often as the bomb is planted although it usually happens to the planters POV not other players.
@@OffensiveFarmer I dont remember when thous random flick bugs were fixed but it has been long time now that i have not got thous on my demos except sometimes after bomb planting. But if i remember right there is some known and unfixable problem with demos and the few milli secounds after bomb plant not being recorded.
Wouldn’t be surprised. To be honest it should be a jail-able offense in every country to cheat in a tournament especially if it’s worth money. To be caught should be permanent ban and valve needs to take action too to make sure they can’t play anymore.
Cannot be put to a law, but city ordinances. Also there are levels of offense - first time, 2ne time, etc.. Punishment will be based on that. Petty crimes like cheating won't get you jailed for the first time. Only community service plus fine.
im done to make it illegal to cheat in multiplayer games. it's become so much of a problem and there's really no solution. invasive anticheats can be beat with hardware hacks.
@@Hahahasuiiiii nah I'm just someone who has cheated in video games so I know exactly how big the problem is and how big the cheating communities are. it's a big fucking issue when 10-20% of the users cheat, that number should be closer to 1-2%. the only people that should have the means to cheat are professionals with deep pockets. you're either an oblivious idiot or just another skill-less cheater trying to gaslight people into thinking cheating isn't a big deal.
I am hoping devs start using trained AI to detect non-human behavior in games... Knowing Valve they won't make it all that much better. Cheaters make them money. There is an incentive to not find a permanent solution.
This guy is a god at hiding it even watching this he doesn't look like a cheater some weird things happen yes but it could be humanly possible but as close to impossible as possible then cus that's actually impressive how good he can hide it
The only two things that I thought were super suspect - The peek at 9:09 and the fact that he swings out super wide on a few different occasions to to get the frag. But TBH, if I saw this on OW, he probably would've fooled me lol
@@ILikeTuwtles It's just bunch of random Pakistanis made a team together. It's not any organizations.... Probably steam friends Nothing more. They didn't put any thoughts behind their team. Probably thought it's sounds cool and let's do it lol
My buddies meal team six(can see them 0:28) were the only ones to drop a map against them and you can tell when he toggles in the demo. He plays incredebly passively when not cheating, and its incredebly blatant when watching the demo. The team was also extremely toxic and complaining like babies that mirage got banned lol.
Lmao average mirage enjoyer. You think he was toggling on and off? Could he actually get anything done without the cheats? Considering his mechanics looks so bad in general…
NicholasP is probably one of the worst humans ive ever had the displeasure to be on a team with, me and my teammates mutinied him like 10 seasons ago in main
The suspicious thing to me is how little he looks around unless there’s someone on flank. Not seeing the entire rounds it’s hard to tell if they have commed that flank is clear or if they could know the timing. But I feel like I just habitually look around and check my back if there’s any down time at all.
This video should be eye opening for people to realize there are LOTS of players who hack but the better the player the better they are at hiding them.
As someone who’s played since 1.6, involved in the competitive scene for most of that. This guys good at hiding it, you can’t see much bar the fact you KNOW how the game of CS goes the pendulum swinging never lands in favour as much as it did for this guy.
Honestly you could have picked a better demo, I get this guy was banned (was it off/because of this game), and there's things in the background such as comms we can't hear or see(the reaction based on the comms) but in the 14-13 round (6:49) of the first match you say "after throwing some well time utility" he throws a nade for 7 damage.. followed by "he makes his way back and throws a very tactical smoke" -aka a smoke to stop the retake.. "notice how he's not worried about the flank at all" - while he has a teammate holding a deeper angle meaning he would get first contact that's why even for a non-cheater you'd feel confident throwing that smoke. Doesn't mean the guy couldn't wide swing while he's running back with his knife out, but he has a teammate covering the angle. Do I disagree he cheated, no, he's obviously banned. But this review seems pretty lackluster. That above was just off 1 round, there was another instance where you make the argument that he keeps putting his crosshair on the CT rotating through spawn but to have a guy "aim" through a wall at an enemy he's expecting there seems pretty regular. I could pull demos of anyone aiming at people through the wall a few times here or there. Unless you get banned it wouldn't look any less suspicious until you start adding way more instances. I'd make the argument he didn't cheat in this demo. Even his performance of "easily top fragged" in the first match he had 1 more kill than the second best and 5 more kills than the 4th best on his team while at 78~ ADR. That's not irregular stats. Side bar, do I wish he got banned sooner? yes. Do I wish he never cheated? yes. Do I wish the teams his team beat earlier had gotten better seeds and never had to go through that in the first place? yes. This demo just isn't close to enough to see cheating unless you have the perspective of "he's already a cheater, now let's break down every little thing that looks suspicious."
fov aim... if you set it up correctly, its almost undetectable and hard to see. thats why back in the day some ppl were sayi ng flusha was cheating bcuz he was literally locking on the players through walls.
So he wasn't picked up on by ESEA anti-cheat but by an admin reviewing him manually? Also was it just him that was banned or are his teammates also guilty by association whether or not they knew for a fact he was cheating?
hey man it's been over an hour and youtube is still stuck at 360p? I know you don't upload in that quality but it's taking youtube a long time to get the higher quality video up....I definitely want to watch this vid on at least 1080p.
Wonder what type of hack he was using. Maybe some kind of radar esp hack? Honestly, most of those angles where he was perhaps aiming at someone through the walls are somewhat common positions. I feel like if he was hacking then he hid it extremely well. Most of his suspicious moments could have been written off as coincidental or his team gave information but not much in terms of evidence if this was an OW case. I would have liked to have listened to the teams comms.
By far the biggest problem were the times when he didn't need to check something, because he knew nobody would be coming and not the aim or the utility.
if you would release this video on 1st of April It would make more sense. Even being released now I find it hard to believe he cheats from gameplay alone and no other evidence (word.exe)
for extra information, as someone who's been very active in the HvH community back in 2017 - most of the higher level cheats that are used to cheat in these types of tournaments - the ones that bypass Faceit and Esea anticheats usually NEVER include wallhacks. Usually its a mix of subtle aim assist, with some recoil help, and sometimes maybe something like a radarhack, or sonar or whatever its called, when the enemy's whereabouts are making a sound, usually a beep. It's done because usually there will be someone watching you if you are planning to use a cheat like that - so every bit of info you can get is not visible. Obviously, wallhack is the easiest to detect, and is probably the first thing that comes to mind when anyone thinks of "cheating", but im just saying, the cheater is insanely dumb if he's using wallhacks on a top level tournament.
It’s extremely unlikely he is using esp. radar is far more likely. Overall he just isn’t that great of a player. If he had better movement, peeks and sprays it wouldn’t be sus at all.
Very hard to say if he's cheating or not. But the frag at 10:30 looks like an aimbot. The crosshair is far on the left and that guy gets the headshot one meter away and the croshair then follows the head going down to the ground. Look in slow motion.
You said it near the end, but to me it looked like the other team had some interesting shots as well. almost like you had a another edition for your cheater vs cheater
I think many draw the wrong conclusion. I believe he only starts having high impact if necessary. I believe most of the early frags were legit, but when it gets down to the wire, that is when he toggles further. Their team is decent, however the “seemingly small” advantage they get is enough to turn even the hardest tides making them an extremely good team.
@@stefanpapdi5151 Most of his plays he spams and throws nades where no one is at. It is first when they start losing, that suddenly everything hits. Many times he even died from angles he checked, as well as forgot to check.
that usually how it goes. nobody spins or goes totally blatant anymore unless it become apparent they are at risk of losing the entire game AND they've tilted. it's always "just a little" to get enough of an advantage to win believably, and then they say "skill issue" " mad cuz bad" "cry" etc and the whole lobby, except you who knows what's up, eats it up.
@@stefanpapdi5151 I saw many deaths that shouldn't have happened if he truly had walls the entire game, I for one too see it as he activated the cheats when it was getting close, atleast in the first map. Regardless we will never truly know unless the cheater at hand says exactly when and which exact cheats was on.
I'm so sorry brotha I thought this was. Fishing expedition but flm after 7 min mark that awarnes\ auto aim made me a believer .....never again will I dought you good job man mad respect 🙏
I think what makes people think that he hides it well is, is that they think it's on 100% of the time. I think he turns them off so that he really *CANNOT* tell where they are... and then he turns them on. It could also be that he toggles it on for 1 second to get the info, and then toggles it off immediately. Plenty of ways to hide hacks, and the problem is, the good ones are not going to get caught unless you're there and you see the program being initiated.
To be honest, nothing there seems suspicious. I've done similar plays with equal or better game sense and I'm only LEM. This shows the necessity for valve to make a better anticheat. they got the resources to do it. The fact that Faceit/ESEA anticheats are so much more superior is a joke considering Valve's size as a company
There’s a reason you’re LEM brother If you’ve played at an actual decently high level, even amateur level you would instantly know this guy is cheating. At a certain level plays like what you’re describing don’t just happen so frequently, it’s very rare that those lucky plays happen but he’s doing it constantly and getting info that he really shouldn’t be getting
Nothing seems suspicious? So his silver movement, the perfect pushes at CT, the grenades at the feet of the enemy, not checking spots where the enemy could be, but when they are there, he checks, the silver crosshair placement that somehow ends up on the head. All of those dont seem suspicious uh.
My theory is that he used the cheats as a quick toggle. He turns it on for a few seconds and uses that info to his advantage instead of keeping it on the whole game.
in what way did he get caught? I tried to look for the cause of ban and it seemed to say that the anticheat didn't catch him so i wonder how they came to the conclusion that he was cheating? yeah it seemed like he had a history of cheating in game but that doesn't necessarily mean that he cheats now.
Using the same type of cheats people use on valorant(hardware cheats) are incredebly difficult to detect, theres a vid of the same dude cheating in valorant lmao.
Was this at a lan or was it through a dedicated server? If it’s lan I doubt he’s cheating. If he’s dedicated then yea he’s using esp for sure but I’ve watched csgo pros for years seems pretty damn close to the pros so I don’t wanna make that judgement.
It’s always the movement that gives it away. He isn’t aiming like he knows where they are, but he sure is moving like that, and clearly coordinating with his team for the info too. He moves like a gold nova player but somehow coincidentally knows where everyone seems to be? People saying “you’re lying if you thought he was cheating and it’s just because he got caught you think that” clearly don’t know what they’re talking about. How do you think he got caught in the first place? It isn’t blatant but if you’ve actually played at a higher level of CS you would be able to tell from the position of his mates and the way he moves. If you just pug at low faceit levels and mm it can easily slip past you, but there’s nuances that you pick up at higher levels of play outside of just aiming and game sense that will at least tell you that he’s suspicious.
u could def tell someone was walling if you were playing against it. Its way too common for people to wall and just give info, but its easy to spot when you play enough and know that some info the other team got isn't possible to have.
what makes it really obvious for me is how right before an enemy peek he stop moving his mouse then flick to the enemy like he cant process both information at the same time
being on the receiving end of this shit day in and day out i've become a freakin savant at catching cheaters. after thousands of hours the game gets into your bones and you can just feel when it ain't right. also this guy exhibits those inspect patterns, which i maintain is the most clear tell.
yeah exactly, after enough time playing you can just sorta feel when its off. If theres a few plays that are like cracked asf/lucky asf thats normal, sometimes people just pop off. But theres a big difference between that, and the whole game feeling off as hell from the get go cuz it feels like the enemy always knows wahts going on
That reminds me of a video that came out years ago of a player named flex and another video of another player whose name I can't remember, who also cheated, each in a different ESEA tournament.
It's probably more $$$$ nowadays. For faceit you need hardware mods to bypass the AC and a dedicated programmer. The skills to pull that off is worth a good chunk of money, considering how many people want that unfair advantage no matter what.
So please explain did they detect something on his computer or what? Or did they ban him becuse ”overwatch” becuse in my opinion its hard to say for sure but dosent look like he is cheating.
This kind of hiding from a guy nobody has ever heard of makes you think of someone like Flusha and why suddendly at around the same time when more advanced anti cheats and better cheating security at LAN tournaments showed up,he stopped showing up,you can blame age or a modern era but if this guy can hide it-so could others before him with more success and less security
wtf are you on about? Flusha was the 5th best player in 2015 (hltv) - winning 2 majors AFTER he was heavily accused of cheating in 2014. 10th best in 2016. A lot of pros from the beginning of CSGO fell off 2017 onwards when Astralis started dominating - f0rest, Get Right, Shox, Old VP, kennyS
the second game with the repeek after he grabbed the bomb was a good example of what looks sus. good one admins for banning him. I really couldnt have told you if he was cheating tho using esp, trigger or something. wh was pretty obvious then tho
@@nebulous962 Could be here already they caught 2 pros in just weeks of each other, the company said there testing it on a popular game and valve could make CS 500 best looking game ever made and I wouldn't play it with like 90% of players all hacking and prime is a joke its even worst you would have a easer time playing navi all day than these so called pro morons that just hack all day, there nothing you can really do they will just make AI aimbots n may the best cheater win same as its always been lol
Suspect checklist: - no skins. - movement like a drunken elephant - panic spray only - only peeks corners where somebody is and pretend a bit every else I also would not have found him guilty in one of my matches, but on pro level? Definitely. he still got destroyed so many times, that makes me happy.
Lmao right. It’s both sad and hilarious when bad people cheating are still too bad to even cheat. Fun to see him get destroyed but still sad he made it so far without getting banned.
@@mememoments2779 at 10:11-10:12, when he goes back into cover, he leaves his aim lock on for about ~200ms, still shooting AND tracking him through a wall. Unless he thinks the enemy is gonna noclip through the wall, or that an mp9 can wallbang through 10 feet of solid stone, that isn't prefiring or preaiming.
@@ModularRefridgerator youre not higher as gold for sure brother. 1. he has no aimlock, wtf are you talking ahahahahah 2.yes, you track people trough walls, that is literally what preaim is. 3. he is a total noob, if u havent seen his movement or anything dont talk, if you would have seen it u can argue here that its bad preaim cause he is all in all a bad player when you look closely you can even see that there is nothing close to aimlock but yeah, keep on
@@mememoments2779At 10:11-10:12, he is not preaiming, he is shooting at a solid wall while fully retreating from an angle. There is nothing wrong with tracking someone through a wall as you peek/repeek. Preaiming is lining up a shot through the wall BEFORE you PEEK. Preaiming is NOT continuing to track/shoot an enemy through an impenetrable surface as you're running away into cover to reload and flash. What he is doing here is completely unnatural for a normal player.
He also died in many 1v1s when he predicted the enemy position, considering how good his aim is, he shouldn't have lost those with a wallhack or aimbot.
How was this guy caught cheating? Because I hope there was something else than this. This gameplay looks 100% normal. Not saying he isn't cheating. Just saying that people can easily play as good as this. Not even that many lucky moments.
He didn’t look sus at all first game except maybe a lil last round, all of it could very easily be explained and made sense. But on Ancient he was insanely more blatant lvl 10 Faceit if that matters
He does a good job of hiding it but any experienced player can tell that this guy has extra information based upon the way he plays. He knows things he shouldn't and that's something you can never hide. Hope he gets longer than a 2 year ban as this is just dirt bag behavior
Cmon man, from the 1:11 clip, he literally was holding the only angle he can hold before he jumps up, and when he jumps up, he wasn’t even moving his mouse, he literally was just walking. And just nice the player was there. This happened so many times in tier1 tournaments. A pretty poor assumption on this one. He didn’t even leave short open, his friend was clearing it. I’m not going to watch the rest of the video
He didnt do anything crazy in this series due to everyone calling him out before. I've seen the other demos of him he is 100% cheating. I can understand why you don't think he's cheating.
@@Ruhsky Probably bc Ben is also a dirty little cheater, so many of the lil rat scumbags around. The tarkov video by g0at showed us that when it comes to cheaters its an "us vs them" kinda scenario and a lot of them are at the point where they don't even think they are cheating anymore and congratulate eachother on wins and kills and they all try and back each other up. Its fucking hilarious. Fucking scumbags everywhere ahahaha.
Ah, yes, wisdom. Cheaters operate with additional information. Agreed. Even when they're hiding it, their behavior has been influenced by their additional information. If they weren't going to be influenced by the additional information provided by their cheats, then they wouldn't be using cheats. There are always signs that they have additional information. Especially if you play to it.
From the demo you cannot see hes cheating. Yes when you really wanna force it you find something. But they mustve found software or something, cause his playing is not supicious at all.
I would never be able to tell this guy is cheating in MM. He'd get right past me in overwatch.
that's a good thing though. overwatch is for beyond a reasonable doubt only. I swear sometimes when I watch my own demos, I get more suspicious of myself than that guy 🤣🤣🤣
His other game play is very obvious.
95% of csgo player time is from cheaters. You have been conditioned that cheating playstyle is.... NOt cheating
Csgo have no anticheat so mostly cheaters playing
@@KenzieNakamura if they have no Anti-Cheat, why do 3.4 Million Steam Accounts have a VAC Ban?
Personally, I believe that when anybody who earns money through playing video games, is caught cheating, they get charged for fraud. As they're falsely representing the service they offer.
If a product is described as "hand-made", and turns out it was entirely manufactured by machine, that's fraud, right?
Cheating is a crime punishable by death!
In the US there was this pair of dudes who got caught stuffing fish for a competition (it was judged by weight), and they took over 30k in winnings over a year or two, and when they were caught, they ended up charged with fraud.
For real, my opinion on shit like this is they deserve to be charged heavily enough that they lose all the money they made and then some since that's the risk they took, and even deserve some jail time too.
@@49999 tiny bit extreme, mate. There are worse people that deserve your hate. If you're going to hate, hate positively
@@49999 unironcally, it should be.
Played this team during the season and we reported them immediately after, sad it took this long
How were you able to tell? I'm pretty low level to notice
What did they do to make u guys reort them?
A lot of the time after this amount of experience, you can just tell there's a cheater. There's a "feel" to it based on info, shots, even just movement around the map and positioning.
@@deusnightfire Movement reveals everything
@@727V Yess just because they are able to see through walls that changes the scenario and mainly affects their movements
Something kinda like subconscious
One side of their brain focuses on how to hide hacks and not get caught
And
Other side of the brain focuses on where are the enemies is someone
Behind the door are they flanking are they going to the different site etc
Once you get used to cheating you destroy your normal game
The main problem, IMO, is that just giving the info is enough to have a large impact on the outcome of a match. And that cannot be detected via overwatch.
even just toggling an aimbot for one round and opening with a 3k in an important round economy wise can be the difference in a game.
Info is everything in this game. And to positively know where everyone is, it’s amazing he played so poorly
@@vladvlad48 I disagree, he played perfectly, never dominated so hard that everyone flagged him, tried to just eek out a win and win they did. Expert level cheating, still caught, lifetime ban or bust.
@@QueekHeadtakerope
His movement is garbo
He panics and plays like a paranoid schizo and some of his decisions make no sense for that level of play
Usually if someone on a semi pro level cheats and they are good even without cheats they would play it much more differently but this garbo is 2k elo tops judging by his overall skill as a player (mechanical and gamesense)
You all are missing That overwatch isnt triggering since its played on thirdpartyservers
me when I'm forced to watch a video in 360p
You can tell when someone is hiding cheats by the amount of times they get bad timing. Even the best players with the best game sense get bad timing. This guy what what I saw here never had a truly bad timing moment. At least once in any given game you're going to look away from an angle that someone peeks right before they do. You're going to not check the specific angle they're in or similar things. This guy seemed like he only died because he missed shots and to be honest, his mechanical skill was a give away too.
id say the only thing close to a bad timing moment is on ancient round 13 when he holds mid from spawn, he looks away when the ct silently peaks and sprints back to kill him. Maybe a fake bad timing
He looks legit to me
@@WhiteLivesMatterPL I mean the same thing, so either he's a silver or an ak player, but he's as unlucky as a cheater would not be so unlucky.. as much as he died, so no, he's clean.
man couldnt aim couldnt hit headshots had dog shit movement and the biggest giveaway imo was how he peaks angles, with no information 90% of the time he would just swing past multiple closers angles to the one the other players were at. in fact almost every time he was killed was because he swung past 2 players got the kill on one guy but the other guy traded him out.
how can you possibly know that from this video? It just shows highlights of where he is suspicious. 11 minutes from 2 full games.
He plays like a DMG with a maphack holy shit
their movement is so fuckjing bad
@F3rny silvers diff for real I came back after not playing for a year and some times it feels like I'm playing against faceit 10s lmao
@@f3rny_66 You don't think it's because you had a break? That will make you rusty.
Even in gold nova 3 players play better.
@@myinbox8125 you may be. I have a smurf acc that's MG1 now, but at one point it too was silver.
The craziest part is how hard it is to tell if he's cheating or not without comms.
I don't think the confidence in rotations is that big of a dead giveaway, but you could always give the benefit of the doubt if that info could've been given by vigilant teammates. For instance, they could have heard 3 footsteps, or just deduced how much utility was being used simultaneously to call the execute.
I think what really gave it away was the fact that he sprayed into empty smoke after hearing the defuse. You can see where the bomb is on the minimap and there was absolutely no reason to be spraying those empty spots when he was up a teammate.
He’s literally aiming thru walls at 6:04 & not clearing corner angles….
This ledgit just looks like my average random teamate in a MM game at DMG/LE level.
2 years ban on ESEA for cheatin in Grand finals? Wow, this service is really forgiving, that's nice.
Even watching him now it just looks like he knows all his angles and got a bit lucky with timing
I hear you. That's the problem with pro-scene cheating. Especially with the very advanced cheats that are being produced today, meant to closely mimic human behavior. People need to put in all those 10,000 hours to understand the flow of the game, the positioning and every little detail to get that feeling in the stomach when something "lucky" happens a bit too often. That's why the cheating (and accusations) in lower levels have spiraled out of control, because people can't tell skill from cheats unless it's someone basically following you with a crosshair through the wall like we're still in 2001. Bad players refuse to admit that they suck and seem unwilling to understand that professionals can also be cheaters. A prime example is Call of Duty, a game completely ruined by cheaters, condoned by the gaming company itself. Warzone became absolutely unplayable, the Covid era Twitch "pro" streamers destroyed it with third-party software and everyone else just tagged along to stand a chance, and multiplayer is now in the gutter because of it.
Makes you wonder how many cheaters are disguising it better and consistently getting away with it, no matter what mode you're playing.
Hindsight is such a thing, if he didn't get banned for cheating there's no way I would say he's cheating from these demos. You say a lot "oh look how he did this at the perfect time and how he wasn't worried about X" but you're not taking into account that he has team mates with eyes and ears that could have given him much of the info that would lead to him knowing that stuff or the fact that sometimes people make the wrong play (like not checking a certain angle) which ends up being the right play (because no enemy was there) which makes it look like they knew too much info but in reality they just forgot about the other possibilities.
I've watched my own demos and seen far more blatant things such as locking on enemies through walls, having perfect timing on peeks ect and I know for a fact that I don't cheat.
Anyone who watches this demo and says "I could tell he was cheating" is either lying or has a very poor understanding of this game, the only thing a little suspicious about this guy is his movement, it's not insanely bad but it's not what you'd expect of someone at a high level but that's not definitive either, the former major winning pro Zeus had awful movement but he was a pro and even rarely had dominating performances over other top level pros.
I think that this guy might have been more blatant on previous matches on this tournament and there is this moment that seems like glitch on soft aimlock at 2:51.
@@jermu9607 It is possible and the thing at 2:51 looks like a demo bug, it happens often as the bomb is planted although it usually happens to the planters POV not other players.
@@OffensiveFarmer That demo Bug is fixed allready...
@@jermu9607 Since when? I was watching my own demos like 2 weeks ago and it happened.
@@OffensiveFarmer I dont remember when thous random flick bugs were fixed but it has been long time now that i have not got thous on my demos except sometimes after bomb planting. But if i remember right there is some known and unfixable problem with demos and the few milli secounds after bomb plant not being recorded.
Wouldn’t be surprised. To be honest it should be a jail-able offense in every country to cheat in a tournament especially if it’s worth money. To be caught should be permanent ban and valve needs to take action too to make sure they can’t play anymore.
Cannot be put to a law, but city ordinances. Also there are levels of offense - first time, 2ne time, etc.. Punishment will be based on that. Petty crimes like cheating won't get you jailed for the first time. Only community service plus fine.
Not even taking PED in real life sports gets you in jail. This will never happen
im done to make it illegal to cheat in multiplayer games. it's become so much of a problem and there's really no solution. invasive anticheats can be beat with hardware hacks.
@@fugitiv3 lmao you must be 9 if you think cheating in videogames is such a big issue. Tournaments makes sense but normal cheating 😂😂😂
@@Hahahasuiiiii nah I'm just someone who has cheated in video games so I know exactly how big the problem is and how big the cheating communities are. it's a big fucking issue when 10-20% of the users cheat, that number should be closer to 1-2%. the only people that should have the means to cheat are professionals with deep pockets. you're either an oblivious idiot or just another skill-less cheater trying to gaslight people into thinking cheating isn't a big deal.
I really hope Valve has a solution for this cheating problem when CS2 is fully released.
I'm not holding my breath
They have cheats for it already 😢
I am hoping devs start using trained AI to detect non-human behavior in games... Knowing Valve they won't make it all that much better. Cheaters make them money. There is an incentive to not find a permanent solution.
@@InsaneGeraldo Hopefully VacNET will come to life. 😅
@@InsaneGeraldo there has been some code data mined that refers to something called “vac live” so that might be it
This guy is a god at hiding it even watching this he doesn't look like a cheater some weird things happen yes but it could be humanly possible but as close to impossible as possible then cus that's actually impressive how good he can hide it
The only two things that I thought were super suspect - The peek at 9:09 and the fact that he swings out super wide on a few different occasions to to get the frag. But TBH, if I saw this on OW, he probably would've fooled me lol
Peek*
that is the most sus one in the whole video
Well, isn't that just a popular spot to wait for?
@@overflood you would atleast peek cat first
If you don’t know how to spell peek you for sure aren’t providing a valid opinion about anything cs related.
hol up, their name was WALDEM like WALL-THEM???? hahahaha😂
The team name is waldelocker and his name is Mbapnaldo, but it does look like that, it's a bit confusing. The walde is the team name.
@@ILikeTuwtles
Mbapnaldo = a hybrid of Mbappe and Ronaldo. 2 football superstars
@@m.n.s.s2825 Yes, I understood that but the team name is not WALDEM, it's WALDE.
@@ILikeTuwtles
It's just bunch of random Pakistanis made a team together. It's not any organizations.... Probably steam friends Nothing more. They didn't put any thoughts behind their team. Probably thought it's sounds cool and let's do it lol
My buddies meal team six(can see them 0:28) were the only ones to drop a map against them and you can tell when he toggles in the demo. He plays incredebly passively when not cheating, and its incredebly blatant when watching the demo. The team was also extremely toxic and complaining like babies that mirage got banned lol.
Yees please ban mirage gosh if I have to play that stupid map again
Lmao average mirage enjoyer. You think he was toggling on and off? Could he actually get anything done without the cheats? Considering his mechanics looks so bad in general…
NicholasP is probably one of the worst humans ive ever had the displeasure to be on a team with, me and my teammates mutinied him like 10 seasons ago in main
He looks legit to me
@@WhiteLivesMatterPLhe isn’t.
The suspicious thing to me is how little he looks around unless there’s someone on flank. Not seeing the entire rounds it’s hard to tell if they have commed that flank is clear or if they could know the timing. But I feel like I just habitually look around and check my back if there’s any down time at all.
This video should be eye opening for people to realize there are LOTS of players who hack but the better the player the better they are at hiding them.
As someone who’s played since 1.6, involved in the competitive scene for most of that. This guys good at hiding it, you can’t see much bar the fact you KNOW how the game of CS goes the pendulum swinging never lands in favour as much as it did for this guy.
the fact you only get a 2 year ban for cheating in a grand final of a sport is an absolute joke my dudes
That's why Vac is better. Permanent lol
Honestly you could have picked a better demo, I get this guy was banned (was it off/because of this game), and there's things in the background such as comms we can't hear or see(the reaction based on the comms) but in the 14-13 round (6:49) of the first match you say "after throwing some well time utility" he throws a nade for 7 damage.. followed by "he makes his way back and throws a very tactical smoke" -aka a smoke to stop the retake.. "notice how he's not worried about the flank at all" - while he has a teammate holding a deeper angle meaning he would get first contact that's why even for a non-cheater you'd feel confident throwing that smoke. Doesn't mean the guy couldn't wide swing while he's running back with his knife out, but he has a teammate covering the angle.
Do I disagree he cheated, no, he's obviously banned. But this review seems pretty lackluster. That above was just off 1 round, there was another instance where you make the argument that he keeps putting his crosshair on the CT rotating through spawn but to have a guy "aim" through a wall at an enemy he's expecting there seems pretty regular. I could pull demos of anyone aiming at people through the wall a few times here or there. Unless you get banned it wouldn't look any less suspicious until you start adding way more instances. I'd make the argument he didn't cheat in this demo. Even his performance of "easily top fragged" in the first match he had 1 more kill than the second best and 5 more kills than the 4th best on his team while at 78~ ADR. That's not irregular stats.
Side bar, do I wish he got banned sooner? yes. Do I wish he never cheated? yes. Do I wish the teams his team beat earlier had gotten better seeds and never had to go through that in the first place? yes. This demo just isn't close to enough to see cheating unless you have the perspective of "he's already a cheater, now let's break down every little thing that looks suspicious."
I wouldnt have been able to tell he was cheating from any of those clips. it was very suttle
suttle
sutul
fov aim... if you set it up correctly, its almost undetectable and hard to see. thats why back in the day some ppl were sayi ng flusha was cheating bcuz he was literally locking on the players through walls.
@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it I allways knew flusha was cheater sadly people are stupid.
That’s not subtle
10 seconds watching him move and you can tell that LM movement is too strong lmao
what does this mean
@@thankyou4328 his movement is pure shit
@@thankyou4328 basically means his movement is shit
@@thankyou4328 hes has shit movement
@@BidoMaggotthat is obvious I think he means what does the acronym LM mean?
I wonder if this waldelocker team is the same as the waldelocker team in the paris major qualifier video you made
So he wasn't picked up on by ESEA anti-cheat but by an admin reviewing him manually? Also was it just him that was banned or are his teammates also guilty by association whether or not they knew for a fact he was cheating?
Most likely a hardware cheat(expensive) and there was video of him hacking in Valorant too lmao.
They knew he was banned on faceit but didn't sync the info lol. Guy has the peeks of MG or DMG but at that level lol
you know you are early when you can only pick 360p
He plays like the average MM players i play against...
hey man it's been over an hour and youtube is still stuck at 360p? I know you don't upload in that quality but it's taking youtube a long time to get the higher quality video up....I definitely want to watch this vid on at least 1080p.
Do they not make you record your teamspeak anymore? Wouldn't his calls be picked up in the team chat if he is ghosting for everyone.
clicked so fast its only in 360p 😭😭
its a upload issue that youtube has
simply a difference in skill
@@champizthename8513 No it isn't. Videos take time to process.
@@LukeSaward 53 min in and still only 360p, there's an issue for sure.
@@LukeSaward lol mate its a youtube error you Cleary don't know about it or it would of changed by now chop
Wonder what type of hack he was using. Maybe some kind of radar esp hack? Honestly, most of those angles where he was perhaps aiming at someone through the walls are somewhat common positions. I feel like if he was hacking then he hid it extremely well. Most of his suspicious moments could have been written off as coincidental or his team gave information but not much in terms of evidence if this was an OW case. I would have liked to have listened to the teams comms.
By far the biggest problem were the times when he didn't need to check something, because he knew nobody would be coming and not the aim or the utility.
he's using a dma radar cheat, I know him personally
@@dvdude Is he from Pakistan?
This is basically the Olympics. Stored test samples that didn't pop for performance enhancers during. But a few years later it pops.
if you would release this video on 1st of April It would make more sense. Even being released now I find it hard to believe he cheats from gameplay alone and no other evidence (word.exe)
for extra information, as someone who's been very active in the HvH community back in 2017 - most of the higher level cheats that are used to cheat in these types of tournaments - the ones that bypass Faceit and Esea anticheats usually NEVER include wallhacks.
Usually its a mix of subtle aim assist, with some recoil help, and sometimes maybe something like a radarhack, or sonar or whatever its called, when the enemy's whereabouts are making a sound, usually a beep.
It's done because usually there will be someone watching you if you are planning to use a cheat like that - so every bit of info you can get is not visible.
Obviously, wallhack is the easiest to detect, and is probably the first thing that comes to mind when anyone thinks of "cheating", but im just saying, the cheater is insanely dumb if he's using wallhacks on a top level tournament.
It’s extremely unlikely he is using esp. radar is far more likely. Overall he just isn’t that great of a player. If he had better movement, peeks and sprays it wouldn’t be sus at all.
Very hard to say if he's cheating or not. But the frag at 10:30 looks like an aimbot.
The crosshair is far on the left and that guy gets the headshot one meter away and the croshair then follows the head going down to the ground.
Look in slow motion.
@@gndnls yeah, and that might just aswell be csgo demos being csgo demos
Hey, I have no problem with hackers, just keep ‘em in the HvH servers and out of MM. TY for the insight
That's just playing in flusha's style
Is this video ever going to more than 360p?
It should be noted that this was ESEA Open (the lowest division in ESEA leagues) finals, not some grand esports finals.
Clara's at it again!
Most insane part of this situation was that this moron took to Twitter and @ everyone who he beat and called him out.
Is he Pakistani ? Can you tell his nationality?
You said it near the end, but to me it looked like the other team had some interesting shots as well. almost like you had a another edition for your cheater vs cheater
can you do a latency test on cs2 once you have the chance ?
I think many draw the wrong conclusion. I believe he only starts having high impact if necessary. I believe most of the early frags were legit, but when it gets down to the wire, that is when he toggles further. Their team is decent, however the “seemingly small” advantage they get is enough to turn even the hardest tides making them an extremely good team.
nah he is cheating the entire time
@@stefanpapdi5151 Most of his plays he spams and throws nades where no one is at. It is first when they start losing, that suddenly everything hits. Many times he even died from angles he checked, as well as forgot to check.
@@republicinthepolitics he is obv moving around where he knows he is safe the entire video he has walls
that usually how it goes. nobody spins or goes totally blatant anymore unless it become apparent they are at risk of losing the entire game AND they've tilted. it's always "just a little" to get enough of an advantage to win believably, and then they say "skill issue" " mad cuz bad" "cry" etc and the whole lobby, except you who knows what's up, eats it up.
@@stefanpapdi5151 I saw many deaths that shouldn't have happened if he truly had walls the entire game, I for one too see it as he activated the cheats when it was getting close, atleast in the first map.
Regardless we will never truly know unless the cheater at hand says exactly when and which exact cheats was on.
I honestly wouldnt say he's cheating until I saw 11:10 round
I'm so sorry brotha I thought this was. Fishing expedition but flm after 7 min mark that awarnes\ auto aim made me a believer .....never again will I dought you good job man mad respect 🙏
I think what makes people think that he hides it well is, is that they think it's on 100% of the time.
I think he turns them off so that he really *CANNOT* tell where they are... and then he turns them on.
It could also be that he toggles it on for 1 second to get the info, and then toggles it off immediately.
Plenty of ways to hide hacks, and the problem is, the good ones are not going to get caught unless you're there and you see the program being initiated.
To be honest, nothing there seems suspicious. I've done similar plays with equal or better game sense and I'm only LEM. This shows the necessity for valve to make a better anticheat. they got the resources to do it. The fact that Faceit/ESEA anticheats are so much more superior is a joke considering Valve's size as a company
There’s a reason you’re LEM brother
If you’ve played at an actual decently high level, even amateur level you would instantly know this guy is cheating. At a certain level plays like what you’re describing don’t just happen so frequently, it’s very rare that those lucky plays happen but he’s doing it constantly and getting info that he really shouldn’t be getting
Nothing seems suspicious? So his silver movement, the perfect pushes at CT, the grenades at the feet of the enemy, not checking spots where the enemy could be, but when they are there, he checks, the silver crosshair placement that somehow ends up on the head. All of those dont seem suspicious uh.
If you slow down the video at 2:52 you can see his view doing a 180° switch for 0.25-0.5 sec when he's switching to his weapon
is because of demo, it happens when bomb is planting
This is demo bug becauae on csgo demos are only 16 ticks so sometimes it looks completely different then it actually was in game.
My theory is that he used the cheats as a quick toggle. He turns it on for a few seconds and uses that info to his advantage instead of keeping it on the whole game.
why did you upload this in low res?
6:38 I didnt know the mp9 was also called awp
in what way did he get caught? I tried to look for the cause of ban and it seemed to say that the anticheat didn't catch him so i wonder how they came to the conclusion that he was cheating? yeah it seemed like he had a history of cheating in game but that doesn't necessarily mean that he cheats now.
Using the same type of cheats people use on valorant(hardware cheats) are incredebly difficult to detect, theres a vid of the same dude cheating in valorant lmao.
@@Wyatt_BWhere can i find the valorant video, I'm curious now
yea, cause from the video there is nothing
2:51 is enough evidence
@@iKamilEdits spot on!
Whats stopping chatgpt in the future from creating cheats? They can already write code
Do you know if this was played on Faceit servers or custom CSGO servers?
ESEA servers
lol the clara had me dead af bro
These kids never learn… always cheating their way to victory, even in school 😂
Bet he uses an Uber to win a 500m dash
@@the1abstrakt who races 500m?
Was this at a lan or was it through a dedicated server? If it’s lan I doubt he’s cheating. If he’s dedicated then yea he’s using esp for sure but I’ve watched csgo pros for years seems pretty damn close to the pros so I don’t wanna make that judgement.
yo prophet you are so sick man
It’s always the movement that gives it away. He isn’t aiming like he knows where they are, but he sure is moving like that, and clearly coordinating with his team for the info too.
He moves like a gold nova player but somehow coincidentally knows where everyone seems to be?
People saying “you’re lying if you thought he was cheating and it’s just because he got caught you think that” clearly don’t know what they’re talking about. How do you think he got caught in the first place?
It isn’t blatant but if you’ve actually played at a higher level of CS you would be able to tell from the position of his mates and the way he moves. If you just pug at low faceit levels and mm it can easily slip past you, but there’s nuances that you pick up at higher levels of play outside of just aiming and game sense that will at least tell you that he’s suspicious.
There has to be another reason for the ban. This is 100 percent completely normal play.
u could def tell someone was walling if you were playing against it. Its way too common for people to wall and just give info, but its easy to spot when you play enough and know that some info the other team got isn't possible to have.
what makes it really obvious for me is how right before an enemy peek he stop moving his mouse then flick to the enemy like he cant process both information at the same time
IMAGINE MY SHOCK ! CSGO and cheating ? No way !
being on the receiving end of this shit day in and day out i've become a freakin savant at catching cheaters. after thousands of hours the game gets into your bones and you can just feel when it ain't right. also this guy exhibits those inspect patterns, which i maintain is the most clear tell.
Inspecting weapons = cheating?? Ok schizo
yeah exactly, after enough time playing you can just sorta feel when its off. If theres a few plays that are like cracked asf/lucky asf thats normal, sometimes people just pop off. But theres a big difference between that, and the whole game feeling off as hell from the get go cuz it feels like the enemy always knows wahts going on
Biggest reason I hate competitive games is cheaters. Just feels hopeless especially when someone like this wins a championship.
That reminds me of a video that came out years ago of a player named flex and another video of another player whose name I can't remember, who also cheated, each in a different ESEA tournament.
I still can’t imagine someone would pay $500+ just to cheat on ESEA/Faceit
It's probably more $$$$ nowadays. For faceit you need hardware mods to bypass the AC and a dedicated programmer.
The skills to pull that off is worth a good chunk of money, considering how many people want that unfair advantage no matter what.
@@hileutewie they're like $500 a month for faceit and the accounts don't last long
360p?
Damn I'm good (unlike the cheater)
So please explain did they detect something on his computer or what? Or did they ban him becuse ”overwatch” becuse in my opinion its hard to say for sure but dosent look like he is cheating.
Fun fact 2-3 out of 10 games in CSGO and valorant have a cheater.
This kind of hiding from a guy nobody has ever heard of makes you think of someone like Flusha and why suddendly at around the same time when more advanced anti cheats and better cheating security at LAN tournaments showed up,he stopped showing up,you can blame age or a modern era but if this guy can hide it-so could others before him with more success and less security
flusha was 100% cheating
this is a bruh moment
wtf are you on about? Flusha was the 5th best player in 2015 (hltv) - winning 2 majors AFTER he was heavily accused of cheating in 2014. 10th best in 2016.
A lot of pros from the beginning of CSGO fell off 2017 onwards when Astralis started dominating - f0rest, Get Right, Shox, Old VP, kennyS
Honestly you can tell by the way someone moves, and the insane accuracy of their shots while either flashed or aiming through smokes
its obvious for an intelligent person, thats why Prophet couldnt say it without reasonable doughts
the second game with the repeek after he grabbed the bomb was a good example of what looks sus. good one admins for banning him. I really couldnt have told you if he was cheating tho using esp, trigger or something. wh was pretty obvious then tho
That takes YEARS of practice, his composure is truly skillful, very good cheater.
Can't wait for A.I Anti-cheat.
I think it may come when cs2 is fully released. I think they may have collaborated with anybrain to make this new anticheat.
@@nebulous962 Could be here already they caught 2 pros in just weeks of each other, the company said there testing it on a popular game and valve could make CS 500 best looking game ever made and I wouldn't play it with like 90% of players all hacking and prime is a joke its even worst you would have a easer time playing navi all day than these so called pro morons that just hack all day, there nothing you can really do they will just make AI aimbots n may the best cheater win same as its always been lol
Crazy that he has his 5 year tab. The guy has probably been hacking for 5 years and just finally got caught.
wtf is this? 2 hours and it's still only 360p.
Suspect checklist:
- no skins.
- movement like a drunken elephant
- panic spray only
- only peeks corners where somebody is and pretend a bit every else
I also would not have found him guilty in one of my matches, but on pro level? Definitely.
he still got destroyed so many times, that makes me happy.
Lmao right. It’s both sad and hilarious when bad people cheating are still too bad to even cheat. Fun to see him get destroyed but still sad he made it so far without getting banned.
Did something show up on his computer? This doesn't look like cheating at all
Looks pretty legit, but I guess hours of toggling with visual assistants makes it easier
10:10 dude is literally shooting and tracking him through a wall.
he can see him when he peeks and unpeeks. not suspicious at all. he is a cheater tho
prefire and preaim, you never played a shooter in your life, right? at least not more than 100hours
@@mememoments2779 at 10:11-10:12, when he goes back into cover, he leaves his aim lock on for about ~200ms, still shooting AND tracking him through a wall. Unless he thinks the enemy is gonna noclip through the wall, or that an mp9 can wallbang through 10 feet of solid stone, that isn't prefiring or preaiming.
@@ModularRefridgerator youre not higher as gold for sure brother.
1. he has no aimlock, wtf are you talking ahahahahah
2.yes, you track people trough walls, that is literally what preaim is.
3. he is a total noob, if u havent seen his movement or anything dont talk, if you would have seen it u can argue here that its bad preaim cause he is all in all a bad player
when you look closely you can even see that there is nothing close to aimlock but yeah, keep on
@@mememoments2779At 10:11-10:12, he is not preaiming, he is shooting at a solid wall while fully retreating from an angle. There is nothing wrong with tracking someone through a wall as you peek/repeek. Preaiming is lining up a shot through the wall BEFORE you PEEK. Preaiming is NOT continuing to track/shoot an enemy through an impenetrable surface as you're running away into cover to reload and flash. What he is doing here is completely unnatural for a normal player.
2:51, this is the bug i often seen on cheaters MM, FACEIT, etc...
yep quick autolock I assume
That is a known demo bug and has nothing to do with cheats. It often occurs at the exact time the bomb plant finished
@@AlphaDango no that bug is fixed by now. :) his cheats got bugged bcuz he hit dude with a molly
@@AlphaDango I think that's a BIG B'S of excuse, i've seen thousands of demos, everytime someone is cheating it's the same bug
What bug are you guys talking about?
I would have never thought he was hacking based off of these clips
is that really wintertime on the other team?
On what basis did they ban him? It just looks like some lucky, careless gameplay from an amateur player
He also died in many 1v1s when he predicted the enemy position, considering how good his aim is, he shouldn't have lost those with a wallhack or aimbot.
dude. you realize ppl hide cheats. ppl are sneaky and smart. he wont be spinbotting. its not 2008 and cs source days..... cmon
@@raiyankhanmajlis6112 im pretty sure he was just radar hacking
@@thankyou4328 I guess that would explain the 1 v 1 losess
How was this guy caught cheating? Because I hope there was something else than this. This gameplay looks 100% normal. Not saying he isn't cheating. Just saying that people can easily play as good as this. Not even that many lucky moments.
this was an online tournament and not line right?
He didn’t look sus at all first game except maybe a lil last round, all of it could very easily be explained and made sense. But on Ancient he was insanely more blatant
lvl 10 Faceit if that matters
He does a good job of hiding it but any experienced player can tell that this guy has extra information based upon the way he plays. He knows things he shouldn't and that's something you can never hide. Hope he gets longer than a 2 year ban as this is just dirt bag behavior
Cmon man, from the 1:11 clip, he literally was holding the only angle he can hold before he jumps up, and when he jumps up, he wasn’t even moving his mouse, he literally was just walking. And just nice the player was there. This happened so many times in tier1 tournaments. A pretty poor assumption on this one. He didn’t even leave short open, his friend was clearing it. I’m not going to watch the rest of the video
He didnt do anything crazy in this series due to everyone calling him out before. I've seen the other demos of him he is 100% cheating. I can understand why you don't think he's cheating.
@@Ruhsky Probably bc Ben is also a dirty little cheater, so many of the lil rat scumbags around. The tarkov video by g0at showed us that when it comes to cheaters its an "us vs them" kinda scenario and a lot of them are at the point where they don't even think they are cheating anymore and congratulate eachother on wins and kills and they all try and back each other up. Its fucking hilarious. Fucking scumbags everywhere ahahaha.
@@Ruhskyyeah that’s what was throwing me,it appeared that he wasn’t cheating here to me. It was almost certainly from earlier occurrences
Ah, yes, wisdom. Cheaters operate with additional information. Agreed.
Even when they're hiding it, their behavior has been influenced by their additional information.
If they weren't going to be influenced by the additional information provided by their cheats, then they wouldn't be using cheats.
There are always signs that they have additional information. Especially if you play to it.
can you provides info of what cheats he used?
Damn bruh 360p upload 😭
got recommended this so early its still 360p
From the demo you cannot see hes cheating. Yes when you really wanna force it you find something. But they mustve found software or something, cause his playing is not supicious at all.
The best hack to have that would lower your chance of getting caught would be a radar hack that shows an enemy’s general location.
Not once did he magically locate an enemy, or pre fire. I would never have guessed, in cod games me pre firing like crazy assuming were the enemy is.
Is it just me or everyone is not able to get any more overwatch cases?
After the cs2 update, I don't get any more overwatch cases
Can anyone explain?