This dude was definitely cheating but also him looking at the wall on b site was probably him just looking away from the flash that his teammate threw. This dude honestly hides it pretty well except for his smoke kills
This uh, this ain't a great comment homie. Vac with it's new updates is better but there is a multitude of undetected cheats, glad to see him banned tho
The first sus thing was his crosshair placement in the beginning it was very low to the ground usually players playing in tough lobbies or just generally good players keep their crosshair up at head level also he was not exactly clearing corners... I get called out for walls when I pre-fire an angle and get a headshot.
@@LeeCS727 I account for crouch shooting or crouch peaking, but looking at the floor that low is not how you do it, chest level is perfect because most players crouch when someone shoots at them, my friend has 7K hours and he does the same thing, it always works, looking at the ground like that is not normal watch Simple, mONESY, JKS and others they have their crosshair down but not that low.
he's definitely cheating but half of the things called out in this video are a complete stretch another fun fact is that piggykiki (playing for eg gold) on the other team was accused of ban evading on faceit
That's TIBAW for you. Most of what he says is an absolute stretch. In my honest opinion, he didn't have walls or aimbot but a radar cheat. But on the ESEA game he showed, there was nothing IMHO.
@@Bashiroo Tibaw always has this bias that if someone was banned for cheating, everything is automatically wallhacks and suspect A guy is bhopping like an elephant towards him and he says "OFCOURSE HE KNOWS WHERE THE ENEMY IS XDDDDDD" Mentally disabled low elo bot
So many things you called out looked completely normal to me. Yes he was cheating, you could easily see that just by looking at his crosshairplacement when no enemy was around, and his movement alone. With that being said, here's my explanations for some of the "sus" moments, since you clearly says "he's using cheats, must mean every sus moment is him cheating". (This is just my opinion and what I'm seeing. Also warning for timestamps and long text, really long text.) 2:52: I don't know why you didn't say anything about the way he "cleared" ct. He barely checks anything. Not scared of any possible ct rotation after a very aggressive mid push. 3:38: He tracked the bullets through the smoke, and then when the enemy stopped shooting, he just calculated where he would be when falling back. Anyone above gold nova should be able to do that. Don't see the "so perfectly track" when he shot at the same spot (towards coffin/first box) to get the dude falling back. 4:03: Smoke came from short, so he pushed out trying to catch him offguard. He is covered from long by the wall he's hugging, and his teammates that are close by. He preaimed the most common place on short. If you don't know how to preaim short in mid-high level cs, you should consider playing something else. 4:44: His teammate is top mid, long is smoked off, and he just cleared short corner. Ofcourse the next thing to clear is under porch, the second most common place on short. I would do the exact same thing in that position. The smoke kill after is also very easy to explain. After he got the first kill under poarch, he flicked to check if anyone puched long (probably because he got radar or wh and knew one person was long and could push). The guy long started shooting through the smoke, so he just spammed the smoke close to the corner (common long place) were the bullets came from. 5:05: He spammed banana corner, the most common passive banana play for ct. There is a reason why nading there is so common in pro games. There's also the fact that the close molotov by halfwall cxame from corner (it's not that hard to see). 5:35: You can clearly see that he adjusted his aim slightly down to the right to get a headshot. Looks a lot like low fov aim if you ask me. 6:45: He knows somehow that the enemy is in pit, but saying "he didn't wanna peek it" after he dies confuses me. He jiggled 3 times before finally going full wide when his teammate was out on site. I see jiggling as a form of peeking, might just be me. 7:30: He heard the enemy jump on long. Ofcourse he doesn't play to peek towards mid when he heard the guy. Yes he positioned like that because he heard him. I heard gim jump, you heard him jump. It's no secret that steps means someone's there. 8:00: His teammate is ready to peek. Did you ever think about the fact that they might double peek banana since they know one guy is there? It's not so good for him to look towards car if he's gonna peek half wall. I don't know if they decided to not peek it, or if he's looking at the wall for info. He might also look into the wall to dodge flashes, you never know. But saying that he's staring at the enemies is wrong in my opinion. 8:14: He's inside a smoke looking towards banana. If you're at coffin, and it's smoked off, you wouldn't look towards ct, first box or quad. There's only a small gap to see banana standing where he stands, then it's just a coincidence that they both line up in his crosshair. he's just looking towards banana, nothing sus here at all. 6:32: The guy on top of half wall took damage. It is possible that he heard the boost, since you can't silent jump in csgo. I have no idea if he heard the jump since the clip started after the boost. It would be weird if he looked into the smoke whn standing on top of sandbags. He can only see above the smoke (half wall and top of car), I see nothing wrong with that play at all. 6:43: No it's not strange at all. Did you miss the fact that he threw a high flash to the left? 9:00: Ofcourse he looks into the wall again. Did you miss it again? the fact that he threw a god damn flash? I personally wouldn't look into the flash, but I guess you would saying it's sus looking away from it. 9:10: I have no idea wht kind of info he got since the entire round is cut off, but if you look at the map you can easily see that the bomb got a kill in apps, and that it's a 4v3 when the clip starts. Top mid smoke with a T dead at long, and a very passive a play from his teammates. A banana push as a ct is very common at that situation. It is a bit weird when he doesn't clear t-ramp, but other than that I see no problem here. 9:17: You can see him jiggle the right side of the smoke. It would also be a terrible play if the enemy pushed the smoke before his teammates are in ct. Looks like a normal B anchor play to me. 9:46: Not often at all. Only one time was sus, out of 4. How is 4 times "so often"? First time in this clip was weird, Only explantion I can come up with is that he somehow heard him throw the nade and looked away thinking it was a flash. the second time when he walk to first box, he clearly looked away from the flash. 10:12: Well I think most players would expect a peek from banana if someone threw a molotov sandbags. What do you mean he "technically" missed the shot? He 100% missed the shot. He got flashed and try to time it in. Nothing sus at all. 10:45: Normal wallbang. When someone is flashed in to take over banana they stand close half wall. He took his chance at a wallbang when they flashed someone in. 11:00: Maybe show us when he walk out to pool? He's clearly running past (he most likely checked emo and coffin before looking towards new box). He then saw the shoulder of the enemy and jumped up. I think he would have peeked like that if he didn't have any walls or radar. Ct smoked, coffin smoke fading as the clip starts, and no one was emo or fountain. 11:22: I got no explanation for this one. He somehow knows someone is in boiler.
I have to agree... Some things do look suspiciuos, but this guy plays main/adv and no disrespect but mr.time is not close to that level at all. A lot of these things he calls suspect is just good game sense. Though he is still probably cheating
Some of the things were definitely explainable. The only thing I can't explain is why he stared at the wall (as if he was staring through the wall) on B site that many times from where he was positioned each time. I could understand if he was playing anti-flash closer to the wall, but he didn't appear to be playing anti to me.
Nah you guys do not know what you're talking about. He is 99% cheating. Everything he does is sus. Also saying Time doesn't know what he is talking about due to his lack of skill is beyond idiotic. He was a former pro. He knows the difference between good game sense and suspicious behavior. Anyone who is actually good at this game will know through the demo that this guy is cheating.
This is but the tip of the iceberg. I think there are many professional players using cheats. But what seperates them from your everyday cheater is the practice and ability to hide it.
@@wavingbuddy3535 bruh recoil is easy to control 😂 and all tier 1 pros have good aim the only useful and somewhat hide-able cheat would be some form of close proximity walls and they would just use that info without making it obvious they know but still not really worth the risk if you are good enough to become tier 1 not much incentive to risk throwing away your salary and career and any credibility for life just to cheat.
I think so too. There's tens of thousands of dollars on the line, of course there's cheating. It's the same thing in every sport, that's why performance enhancing drugs are so widely used. Cheating in a video game is a lot easier than trying to hide actual doping.
@@The_Albino_Dino the fact that players openly use exploits in-game just to get advantage should be an indication enough to deduce that they have no worry in the world to use actual cheating software in order to have more impact. Putting trust in tier 1 players is on the same level as putting trust into any governing body out there.
@@ward7576 it’s less trust and more the fact that it’s not worth the risk in any way and when you are being watched on live stage and your games are being broadcasted all it would take is 1 small mistake to be caught and exposed and ruin your entire career and any player who is in tier 1 by natural skill and talent would be an idiot to start cheating. Not to talk about how psychologically players who cheat can even play worse from trying to hide them while the best players have no internal guilt that they are cheating can pull off the most sus looking plays because they know they are legit and have nothing to worry about. The fact that during online era all teams were using an exploit by coaches spectating and giving info to players does not equate to that means tier one players are fine with cheating and would hack to win tournaments… there’s a reason this is the first time someone has been caught hacking in a tournament in recent times and he’s a nobody 5th tier player who has nothing to lose by cheating and only to gain by getting away with it.
@@casualgaming2570 He is always discarding cheaters as legit. And when people point it out that the sus is actually cheating, his simps come to attack.
Level 10 Faceit ESEA Main player here. There's honestly nothing very suspicious about this demo from a top player's perspective. He's literally doing very common preaims and spams on Inferno. The smoke spam kills are all in common positions cts and t's aggress in PUGs or else are being done when there is information/enemy has been spotted/grenade has been thrown then him shooting where the fall off will happen. Also the I'm pretty sure ESEA Client takes screenshots of your monitor to be able to detect wall hacks reliably in the event of reports. The reason he looks at the enemys through the wall on b is because hes dodging flashes that his teammates or himself had thrown right before. I assume the reason his gamesense looks so shit is because homie is likely on low volume, muted his teammates, and has music blasting like all egomaniac puggers. So for everyone who is saying he's wall hacking he is not. He likely got banned for using light aim hacks to supplement his passible aim.
Yeah I didn't get why he was going on about wall hacks, I have to imagine he has to exaggerate it a lot for the views. Like you say pot isn't that suspicious and looks like a normal good player here. If he had assistance it's not noticeable enough.
Idk the only thing that is weird is the amount of times he is staring at people through walls while also tracing them and trying not to instantly shoot when he sees them he waits and then peeks … just really reminds me of the kids in cs who are waiting and trying not to use the info too instantly or shoot through smokes to end up being too noticeable so they just try to act like they don’t know exactly where people are.
Looking at his stats graph growth I would imagine he tryharding his way up, but then demowise it's just time luck and other stuff, doesn't fit together
a lot of people dont know the extent of this issue, its not just pot, the fact he got discovered was pure chance, the cheat is on a different pc connected to the one being used which makes it undetectable since it isnt technically on the first machine being used to play the game. There are a dozen different people that are using this i could name.
he cheated, but it wasn't about the frags which gave it out, but you could instantly see his dumb gameplay, not checking any obvious spots and trying to jump behind the wall quickly when someone was nearby... you could literally do frags like those consistently anyway
i´m also hardstuck nova, i don´t mind loosing a bunch and staying there but the cheaters are just to much and sometimes they have 1k+ hours with pages full of deserved -rep and they´re still playing without a ban
Pra ser honesto na minha vida de CS eu vi muita coisa estranha, inclusive muita coisa que proplayers fazem que parece muito mais suspeito que isso, ele até que esconde bem.(put that in google translate, portuguese brasil, Thank you) E otimo video por sinal, continue o bom trabalho. =)
Just because he is hitting shots people hit all the time automatically falls under cheating category just because he somehow caught cheating is honestly stupid to hear
I saw the video on Russian stream, the guy just killed people through smokes. Also did not check any angles, just stupidly prefiring some angles. He had WALLHACK soft.
its so obvious something is going on. even if he wasnt cheating id still say he was boosted, he has no awareness of whats going on around him, at least 3-4 times a teammate was shoot 2 feet from him and he has no clue they even died.
To be honest I've seen worst thinks from clean players, that round with the molo and the 2 perfect timings sprays is suspicious but besides that it's not really too much.
I once had a friend pull up cheats because the other team was cheating and my friend got banned. Not only did he get banned but i deranged 2 ranks as punishment for queueing with said friend. If I found out my teammate is cheating, I’d kick them from the lobby and would only play with them again, if I knew they weren’t cheating and only in non ranked games
While it is the user's responsibility to not break ToS, insta delete/ban with prejudice should not be a possible response. The ability to upload should just be frozen while investigated, or something like that
Obviously his team knew, probably knew if it wasn't for the cheats they wouldn't be where they were. Maybe even cheating themselves just better at hiding it? It would be Naive to think otherwise. Birds of a feather
10:06. he looks thru the wall randomly to see if they are there. the cheat hes using is a private cheat going around (wont give the name for obvious reasons) that changes your crosshair color if you are looking at enemies through the wall.. watch the demos again and youll see many more moments like that where he randomly looks through the wall to see how many are there (if any). he was pretty obvious about it and sad to see he did it in a tournament. hope ESEA does the right thing and bans him asap
Playing with cheats + having some skill in the game makes you stop on player trough walls even if you didnt want to do it. I cheated and had these little accidents and got ow banned
Really not obvious at all. I would never ban anyone just on this demo alone. I've spend weeks demoing people to gather evidence, in some instances. Me and our other admins would demand much higher standard of proof, this would just be enough to actually invest time in investigating someone.
If ppl can code their own cheats they are impossible to get banned? I feel like There are more cheaters recently from Countries likr Mongolia In SEA. Or they just insane with high ping
i am 80/20 sure most t1 pros cheat, on nuke one time, apex walked weirdly, like didnt take a step, just slipped and commentators were confused as well. on inferno, buster adjusted the crosshair just before enemy walk out of boiler, he didn't make any sound. u can bind the wh with any key to toggle i guess they do that.
Im not big fan of players staring into walls. Sometimes there is legit reason, like trying get better sound clue, but most of times its sign something could be going on. He got surprised couple of times, few times he seems to be well aware of enemy position and checks corners very vague way that would cost him life, if there was actuall enemy prepared for him. Taping into smoke doesnt give much sense, unless you know there is enemy on very low hp. There are safer ways than just stand in place and tap... you can get punished for that pretty easilly. Nothing really screaming out besides few moments, but very sus play.
Yes in tier 1 you only see players stare into walls when they are doing a double setup and one player is anti flash... or when they about to peak behind a teammates flash.
@@cond5690 yeah exactly why risk being caught cheating in tier 1 if you made it there then you are already a beast and making money. It’s mainly the lower tier players who are nobody’s in the scene without enough real skill who would think it’s a worth while risk to cheat to get ahead.
@@EthanSchaner exactly man it’s funny all the comments saying a bunch tier 1 pros are cheating because they do such insane stuff…. Nah they are just actually that good that’s why they are tier 1 …. The biggest cheating scandal in tier 1 was the coach spectator bug but players wouldn’t risk loading into tier 1 game with hacks to risk throwing away their career if they were naturally good enough to get there in the first place
Saying his teammates should be banned is kind of an over reaction. If one of my teammates/friend I had been playing with got banned and denied it to me, I would probably still play with them shortly after. Had he denied it on the spot to his team he deserves the benefit of the doubt until evidence comes to light. Not playing with him and had it been brought to light it was an error would impact your team/friendship in a negative way going forward. Just my 2 cent. I think there is an equally fair chance his teammates didnt know.
he does not have cheats he used sv_pure no smoke exploit.. thats why he really wants those kills if its getting close in the scoreboard its the only advantage he has
@@f3rny_66 not really because vac detects cheats only that had been banned for them already but paid cheats are specifically coded ftor u and untiml u get banned that cheat won't be on vac. The reason they more expensive becausw on faceit and esea there is more on the line andd on mm is just useless rank. But esea and faceit improved report systems and has active admins and bans cheaters eventually on mm tho it takes longer till one day they get overwatched and if they hide it good never while faceit esea u can report to active admins and there is vac and their own anticheat
Theres no video game in which you cant cheat, in fact the one where its harder to do are usually the one where people spend the most time crafting sneaky cheat (ex: valorant) the thing is you can always use external cheat for very cheap and if you play smart its undetectable
The only difference between this guy and the rest is the quality of the cheats. This dude doesn't have the expensive and exotic shit that the top "pro's" have.
but they spammed the smoke with most of their kills But all this cheater usually tap/burst specific spot in the smoke That's what makes it sus if u spray a lot and kills=its normal But most of these cheaters either 1 tap people behind smoke/burst specific angle without info U should aware of this if u play in high elo
bro, you commenting is not good, his teammate flash banana he need to look in the walls. For my side he dosent look fishy at all, he hide it so good. Some kill are kinda fishy but can happen.
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imagine if he actually knew how to shoot and had any game sense at all lol
He looks so bad, he shoots better through smokes than normally.
he has gold nova movement at max
@@marcsino5489 you're giving gold novas too much credit lol
@@marcsino5489 Ouchhhh... xDDD
This dude was definitely cheating but also him looking at the wall on b site was probably him just looking away from the flash that his teammate threw. This dude honestly hides it pretty well except for his smoke kills
he is notgood at it
i do it better lol
@@Smuxfy no you dont... ur gold nova 4 PEAK
@@Nelex5000 lmao what im supreme
@@Nelex5000 i aint silver check csgo stats
nah his walls were a bit blatent
Wow imagine cheating on vac secured servers 😂
huh? 5$ cheat fully bypasses vac & vacnet hello?
like everyone does?
This uh, this ain't a great comment homie. Vac with it's new updates is better but there is a multitude of undetected cheats, glad to see him banned tho
@@EboyReader can nobody take a joke lol
@@EboyReader as expected since source is a 20 year old game engine with a massive modding community amongst its games
Imagine cheating and still being this bad
Bro had to cheat on NA servers😂
Lmao
he should move to South East Asia where cheaters are norm in online gaming.
The first sus thing was his crosshair placement in the beginning it was very low to the ground usually players playing in tough lobbies or just generally good players keep their crosshair up at head level also he was not exactly clearing corners... I get called out for walls when I pre-fire an angle and get a headshot.
Some pro player move crosshair to the ground bc they think the enemy will crouch-shoot
@@LeeCS727 I account for crouch shooting or crouch peaking, but looking at the floor that low is not how you do it, chest level is perfect because most players crouch when someone shoots at them, my friend has 7K hours and he does the same thing, it always works, looking at the ground like that is not normal watch Simple, mONESY, JKS and others they have their crosshair down but not that low.
@@ethan004 damn,thanks for telling me that
3:50 tried to bizon the guy through 2 wall corners niiiice must be new tech we didn't know about lol
he's definitely cheating but half of the things called out in this video are a complete stretch
another fun fact is that piggykiki (playing for eg gold) on the other team was accused of ban evading on faceit
yeah, sounds like lot of innocent players would get banned if he was one who decides if they are cheating...
That's TIBAW for you. Most of what he says is an absolute stretch. In my honest opinion, he didn't have walls or aimbot but a radar cheat. But on the ESEA game he showed, there was nothing IMHO.
@@Bashiroo Tibaw always has this bias that if someone was banned for cheating, everything is automatically wallhacks and suspect
A guy is bhopping like an elephant towards him and he says "OFCOURSE HE KNOWS WHERE THE ENEMY IS XDDDDDD"
Mentally disabled low elo bot
8:46 I would say he was looking away from his own flash
So many things you called out looked completely normal to me. Yes he was cheating, you could easily see that just by looking at his crosshairplacement when no enemy was around, and his movement alone. With that being said, here's my explanations for some of the "sus" moments, since you clearly says "he's using cheats, must mean every sus moment is him cheating".
(This is just my opinion and what I'm seeing. Also warning for timestamps and long text, really long text.)
2:52: I don't know why you didn't say anything about the way he "cleared" ct. He barely checks anything. Not scared of any possible ct rotation after a very aggressive mid push.
3:38: He tracked the bullets through the smoke, and then when the enemy stopped shooting, he just calculated where he would be when falling back. Anyone above gold nova should be able to do that. Don't see the "so perfectly track" when he shot at the same spot (towards coffin/first box) to get the dude falling back.
4:03: Smoke came from short, so he pushed out trying to catch him offguard. He is covered from long by the wall he's hugging, and his teammates that are close by. He preaimed the most common place on short. If you don't know how to preaim short in mid-high level cs, you should consider playing something else.
4:44: His teammate is top mid, long is smoked off, and he just cleared short corner. Ofcourse the next thing to clear is under porch, the second most common place on short. I would do the exact same thing in that position. The smoke kill after is also very easy to explain. After he got the first kill under poarch, he flicked to check if anyone puched long (probably because he got radar or wh and knew one person was long and could push). The guy long started shooting through the smoke, so he just spammed the smoke close to the corner (common long place) were the bullets came from.
5:05: He spammed banana corner, the most common passive banana play for ct. There is a reason why nading there is so common in pro games. There's also the fact that the close molotov by halfwall cxame from corner (it's not that hard to see).
5:35: You can clearly see that he adjusted his aim slightly down to the right to get a headshot. Looks a lot like low fov aim if you ask me.
6:45: He knows somehow that the enemy is in pit, but saying "he didn't wanna peek it" after he dies confuses me. He jiggled 3 times before finally going full wide when his teammate was out on site. I see jiggling as a form of peeking, might just be me.
7:30: He heard the enemy jump on long. Ofcourse he doesn't play to peek towards mid when he heard the guy. Yes he positioned like that because he heard him. I heard gim jump, you heard him jump. It's no secret that steps means someone's there.
8:00: His teammate is ready to peek. Did you ever think about the fact that they might double peek banana since they know one guy is there? It's not so good for him to look towards car if he's gonna peek half wall. I don't know if they decided to not peek it, or if he's looking at the wall for info. He might also look into the wall to dodge flashes, you never know. But saying that he's staring at the enemies is wrong in my opinion.
8:14: He's inside a smoke looking towards banana. If you're at coffin, and it's smoked off, you wouldn't look towards ct, first box or quad. There's only a small gap to see banana standing where he stands, then it's just a coincidence that they both line up in his crosshair. he's just looking towards banana, nothing sus here at all.
6:32: The guy on top of half wall took damage. It is possible that he heard the boost, since you can't silent jump in csgo. I have no idea if he heard the jump since the clip started after the boost. It would be weird if he looked into the smoke whn standing on top of sandbags. He can only see above the smoke (half wall and top of car), I see nothing wrong with that play at all.
6:43: No it's not strange at all. Did you miss the fact that he threw a high flash to the left?
9:00: Ofcourse he looks into the wall again. Did you miss it again? the fact that he threw a god damn flash? I personally wouldn't look into the flash, but I guess you would saying it's sus looking away from it.
9:10: I have no idea wht kind of info he got since the entire round is cut off, but if you look at the map you can easily see that the bomb got a kill in apps, and that it's a 4v3 when the clip starts. Top mid smoke with a T dead at long, and a very passive a play from his teammates. A banana push as a ct is very common at that situation. It is a bit weird when he doesn't clear t-ramp, but other than that I see no problem here.
9:17: You can see him jiggle the right side of the smoke. It would also be a terrible play if the enemy pushed the smoke before his teammates are in ct. Looks like a normal B anchor play to me.
9:46: Not often at all. Only one time was sus, out of 4. How is 4 times "so often"? First time in this clip was weird, Only explantion I can come up with is that he somehow heard him throw the nade and looked away thinking it was a flash. the second time when he walk to first box, he clearly looked away from the flash.
10:12: Well I think most players would expect a peek from banana if someone threw a molotov sandbags. What do you mean he "technically" missed the shot? He 100% missed the shot. He got flashed and try to time it in. Nothing sus at all.
10:45: Normal wallbang. When someone is flashed in to take over banana they stand close half wall. He took his chance at a wallbang when they flashed someone in.
11:00: Maybe show us when he walk out to pool? He's clearly running past (he most likely checked emo and coffin before looking towards new box). He then saw the shoulder of the enemy and jumped up. I think he would have peeked like that if he didn't have any walls or radar. Ct smoked, coffin smoke fading as the clip starts, and no one was emo or fountain.
11:22: I got no explanation for this one. He somehow knows someone is in boiler.
I have to agree... Some things do look suspiciuos, but this guy plays main/adv and no disrespect but mr.time is not close to that level at all. A lot of these things he calls suspect is just good game sense. Though he is still probably cheating
@@kevinhay7 this channel is one of the most annoying channel, condescending tone + making long ass video out of thin air. Just talks and talks
Thats what i am saying
Some of the things were definitely explainable. The only thing I can't explain is why he stared at the wall (as if he was staring through the wall) on B site that many times from where he was positioned each time. I could understand if he was playing anti-flash closer to the wall, but he didn't appear to be playing anti to me.
Nah you guys do not know what you're talking about. He is 99% cheating. Everything he does is sus. Also saying Time doesn't know what he is talking about due to his lack of skill is beyond idiotic. He was a former pro. He knows the difference between good game sense and suspicious behavior. Anyone who is actually good at this game will know through the demo that this guy is cheating.
I could tell he was walling in the first round of the demo
sure bro.
This is but the tip of the iceberg. I think there are many professional players using cheats. But what seperates them from your everyday cheater is the practice and ability to hide it.
If the tier 1 pros are cheating it's not going to be aimbot or wallhacks, most likely a smooth recoil macro built into the mouse
@@wavingbuddy3535 bruh recoil is easy to control 😂 and all tier 1 pros have good aim the only useful and somewhat hide-able cheat would be some form of close proximity walls and they would just use that info without making it obvious they know but still not really worth the risk if you are good enough to become tier 1 not much incentive to risk throwing away your salary and career and any credibility for life just to cheat.
I think so too. There's tens of thousands of dollars on the line, of course there's cheating. It's the same thing in every sport, that's why performance enhancing drugs are so widely used. Cheating in a video game is a lot easier than trying to hide actual doping.
@@The_Albino_Dino the fact that players openly use exploits in-game just to get advantage should be an indication enough to deduce that they have no worry in the world to use actual cheating software in order to have more impact. Putting trust in tier 1 players is on the same level as putting trust into any governing body out there.
@@ward7576 it’s less trust and more the fact that it’s not worth the risk in any way and when you are being watched on live stage and your games are being broadcasted all it would take is 1 small mistake to be caught and exposed and ruin your entire career and any player who is in tier 1 by natural skill and talent would be an idiot to start cheating. Not to talk about how psychologically players who cheat can even play worse from trying to hide them while the best players have no internal guilt that they are cheating can pull off the most sus looking plays because they know they are legit and have nothing to worry about. The fact that during online era all teams were using an exploit by coaches spectating and giving info to players does not equate to that means tier one players are fine with cheating and would hack to win tournaments… there’s a reason this is the first time someone has been caught hacking in a tournament in recent times and he’s a nobody 5th tier player who has nothing to lose by cheating and only to gain by getting away with it.
I for one am SHOCKED that 4taylor was on his team 🤡 dude is a HARDCORE stream sniper
I imagine if this was a Over watch case he would be saying no evidence. I would be calling cheaters and his simps would call me noob.
what ?
@@casualgaming2570 He is always discarding cheaters as legit. And when people point it out that the sus is actually cheating, his simps come to attack.
Level 10 Faceit ESEA Main player here.
There's honestly nothing very suspicious about this demo from a top player's perspective. He's literally doing very common preaims and spams on Inferno. The smoke spam kills are all in common positions cts and t's aggress in PUGs or else are being done when there is information/enemy has been spotted/grenade has been thrown then him shooting where the fall off will happen. Also the I'm pretty sure ESEA Client takes screenshots of your monitor to be able to detect wall hacks reliably in the event of reports. The reason he looks at the enemys through the wall on b is because hes dodging flashes that his teammates or himself had thrown right before. I assume the reason his gamesense looks so shit is because homie is likely on low volume, muted his teammates, and has music blasting like all egomaniac puggers. So for everyone who is saying he's wall hacking he is not. He likely got banned for using light aim hacks to supplement his passible aim.
Proof?
Faceit Anti Cheat is bypassed by Cheater.
@@LukeSaward ethanschaner is my name on Faceit and ESEA
Yeah I didn't get why he was going on about wall hacks, I have to imagine he has to exaggerate it a lot for the views. Like you say pot isn't that suspicious and looks like a normal good player here. If he had assistance it's not noticeable enough.
Idk the only thing that is weird is the amount of times he is staring at people through walls while also tracing them and trying not to instantly shoot when he sees them he waits and then peeks … just really reminds me of the kids in cs who are waiting and trying not to use the info too instantly or shoot through smokes to end up being too noticeable so they just try to act like they don’t know exactly where people are.
"here he looks at the wall again..." because his teammate called flash
Looking at his stats graph growth I would imagine he tryharding his way up, but then demowise it's just time luck and other stuff, doesn't fit together
2023 and people still don't know / pretend the whole scene isn't completely rotten to the core. It's baffling.
8:43-8:58 infinite bullets :)
if there would be eye tracking it would be impossible to hide
i really would have like to watch the origional video of his game please post it when you find the demo
The way he plays it doesn't seem he has walls, but either a radar hack or maybe a sound notification when his crosshair is nearing an enemy.
his movement is even like a DMG. Next time let us watch and tell us after that it was on the Major XD 😜👍
Bro has no recoil
Chief you have to be on some mad copium to not know this is 1 in 4 players in the game right now.
Is the no reload animation + no recoil a demo bug?
yeah, it happens when the interpolate is set to 0
bro looks like a gold nova 1 with walls LMFAO
hopefully this will encourage them to work on the vac system but we all know thats never going to happen
That would be the best thing for an update, the cs:go community could probably wish for.....
vac update would be better than source2 release
a lot of people dont know the extent of this issue, its not just pot, the fact he got discovered was pure chance, the cheat is on a different pc connected to the one being used which makes it undetectable since it isnt technically on the first machine being used to play the game. There are a dozen different people that are using this i could name.
Sampel 1 of them???
Hey....agree!!
if there would be eye tracking it would be impossible to hide
why is ur VO over the gameplay so quiet?
Its like he wanted to get banned
I had a old friend of mine cheat and get banned and I stopped playing with him but everyone else is all friends. He also is married to a 16y.o.
based
probably from ohio...
he cheated, but it wasn't about the frags which gave it out, but you could instantly see his dumb gameplay, not checking any obvious spots and trying to jump behind the wall quickly when someone was nearby... you could literally do frags like those consistently anyway
Yeah looks like a average EU mg lobby😂
in nova it´s ridiculous, weekends are the worst, 3 out 5 games played today had cheaters present.
I'm stuck in nova4, and last year 40% of my games had a cheater banned. Now imagine the amount that weren't caught by overwatch :/
i´m also hardstuck nova, i don´t mind loosing a bunch and staying there but the cheaters are just to much and sometimes they have 1k+ hours with pages full of deserved -rep and they´re still playing without a ban
MM is a meme, even free faceit has alot less cheaters
I’ve played a lot of pugs against him and people on his team. I wonder how many more there are at the top
all of them propbably.
Wdym at the top xd this is some nonamers from na
@@Arminasgaming lots of good players in advanced. Who are you?
Anti, Raiku, slender, ultra. There are plenty of people who cheat
Perhaps he has some dirt on those that can ban him. :)
playing matchmaking has someone like this in every game 🤣
Pra ser honesto na minha vida de CS eu vi muita coisa estranha, inclusive muita coisa que proplayers fazem que parece muito mais suspeito que isso, ele até que esconde bem.(put that in google translate, portuguese brasil, Thank you) E otimo video por sinal, continue o bom trabalho.
=)
Learn some english
Just because he is hitting shots people hit all the time automatically falls under cheating category just because he somehow caught cheating is honestly stupid to hear
Cheater sticking up 4 a cheat that figures
@@MadazzaMusik buddy i have never tried to cheat in cs only got called cheater by people like you
People saying he is hiding it well.
He is so bad you would not expect him cheating.
I thought he wasn't cheating till i saw him play after the second round he definitely was based how bad he is
I wish they would've improved the demo quality in ESEA.
think of all the ones not caught
There was a story that PiggyKiKi cheated and banned evaded. Yet the story has just fallen off.
PiggyKiki is dogshit so I'm not surprised they cheated
Well thats because its a she/her
@@wondernayra För det är en kvinna
Clara strikes again !!!
I saw the video on Russian stream, the guy just killed people through smokes. Also did not check any angles, just stupidly prefiring some angles. He had WALLHACK soft.
His username checks out
there's something satisfying watching people getting banned while playing...
Dude has the game sense of a gold nova 100% cheating
This is the reason why i stop playing cs ..
Look at the clip with the PP at 4min. He does not reload???
I feel like we never learn. If a B-Tier player can cheat, who’s to say an A-Tier player isn’t cheating
its so obvious something is going on. even if he wasnt cheating id still say he was boosted, he has no awareness of whats going on around him, at least 3-4 times a teammate was shoot 2 feet from him and he has no clue they even died.
To be honest I've seen worst thinks from clean players, that round with the molo and the 2 perfect timings sprays is suspicious but besides that it's not really too much.
sure 8:45 looks a little strange, but it might have been him trying to turn his flash
I once had a friend pull up cheats because the other team was cheating and my friend got banned. Not only did he get banned but i deranged 2 ranks as punishment for queueing with said friend. If I found out my teammate is cheating, I’d kick them from the lobby and would only play with them again, if I knew they weren’t cheating and only in non ranked games
While it is the user's responsibility to not break ToS, insta delete/ban with prejudice should not be a possible response.
The ability to upload should just be frozen while investigated, or something like that
Dude this guy plays worse than Silver 1's in Australian match making - Cheating is so rampant and abusive now the community is getting super toxic.
Shroud does the samething in smokes look at his cs2 play
I had bet on some of these games especially player props I feel like I was robbed
Obviously his team knew, probably knew if it wasn't for the cheats they wouldn't be where they were. Maybe even cheating themselves just better at hiding it? It would be Naive to think otherwise. Birds of a feather
no his team didnt know or atleast my buddy who was on the team didnt know
Nice vid once agian! Lets gooo
This guy was obvious af. Dont even have gamesense of the game. Like...
He is legit trash thats at least what i thought too
sad that some simply have no honor
nothing looked fishy in this demo. Anywhere you can watch the demo he got banned in to compare?
Are you his brother? I think you are cheating too!
@@Salen0243 he is my son
10:06. he looks thru the wall randomly to see if they are there. the cheat hes using is a private cheat going around (wont give the name for obvious reasons) that changes your crosshair color if you are looking at enemies through the wall.. watch the demos again and youll see many more moments like that where he randomly looks through the wall to see how many are there (if any). he was pretty obvious about it and sad to see he did it in a tournament. hope ESEA does the right thing and bans him asap
@@greyether0 He was the second Forsaken 😂
nice crosshair placement
I have the demo. Sent you a PM on twitter about it.
@HamdiBeg already sent him it
Playing with cheats + having some skill in the game makes you stop on player trough walls even if you didnt want to do it. I cheated and had these little accidents and got ow banned
please turn down game sounds a bit, i can barely hear you over a demo when he’s shooting :)
It's not obvious because for the most part he's just spamming angles.
Still not banned
I would probably play the pug to shame him for being such a noob that even with wallhack still sucked
Title says 'Pro Gets Banned for CHEATING', I asume you mean 'FAKE Pro Gets Banned for CHEATING'?
Really not obvious at all. I would never ban anyone just on this demo alone. I've spend weeks demoing people to gather evidence, in some instances. Me and our other admins would demand much higher standard of proof, this would just be enough to actually invest time in investigating someone.
If ppl can code their own cheats they are impossible to get banned? I feel like There are more cheaters recently from Countries likr Mongolia In SEA. Or they just insane with high ping
first pros dont have to come at competition with their own keyboard and mouse thats it
homie has really sloppy fundamentals. cheating robs you of your skill.
i am 80/20 sure most t1 pros cheat, on nuke one time, apex walked weirdly, like didnt take a step, just slipped and commentators were confused as well. on inferno, buster adjusted the crosshair just before enemy walk out of boiler, he didn't make any sound. u can bind the wh with any key to toggle i guess they do that.
🤡🤡🤡🤡♿
you must be new to the game
We need a kernel level anti cheat just like Valorant
Even that's not foolproof I've had one cheater every week now in valo
@@kaminey26 still better than a cheater in every mm tho...
@@KaiserMaggus fair point
Im not big fan of players staring into walls. Sometimes there is legit reason, like trying get better sound clue, but most of times its sign something could be going on.
He got surprised couple of times, few times he seems to be well aware of enemy position and checks corners very vague way that would cost him life, if there was actuall enemy prepared for him.
Taping into smoke doesnt give much sense, unless you know there is enemy on very low hp. There are safer ways than just stand in place and tap... you can get punished for that pretty easilly.
Nothing really screaming out besides few moments, but very sus play.
Yes in tier 1 you only see players stare into walls when they are doing a double setup and one player is anti flash... or when they about to peak behind a teammates flash.
Shame they dont ban more pros coz we all know there bs
I guess fun mix have no sponsors so it's pretty easy to ban them without backlash
not many pros cheat at tier 1 i suspect, not surprised a tier 5 NA mix team player was banned xd
@@cond5690 yeah exactly why risk being caught cheating in tier 1 if you made it there then you are already a beast and making money. It’s mainly the lower tier players who are nobody’s in the scene without enough real skill who would think it’s a worth while risk to cheat to get ahead.
Trust me. I'm faceit level 10. You just haven't played the game enough. Pros are just way better than all of us.
@@EthanSchaner exactly man it’s funny all the comments saying a bunch tier 1 pros are cheating because they do such insane stuff…. Nah they are just actually that good that’s why they are tier 1 …. The biggest cheating scandal in tier 1 was the coach spectator bug but players wouldn’t risk loading into tier 1 game with hacks to risk throwing away their career if they were naturally good enough to get there in the first place
Bro was using the leaked aimware cheat
He's actually just so bad even with cheats is laughable
Saying his teammates should be banned is kind of an over reaction.
If one of my teammates/friend I had been playing with got banned and denied it to me, I would probably still play with them shortly after. Had he denied it on the spot to his team he deserves the benefit of the doubt until evidence comes to light. Not playing with him and had it been brought to light it was an error would impact your team/friendship in a negative way going forward.
Just my 2 cent. I think there is an equally fair chance his teammates didnt know.
"after being banned he started live streaming playing some pugs with his teammates"
Anti cheats are bullshit lol
There’s likely a very high percentage of pros that do it too. He’s just one of the few that got caught. What a joke 😅
he does not have cheats he used sv_pure no smoke exploit.. thats why he really wants those kills if its getting close in the scoreboard its the only advantage he has
cheating in esea?? wtf?? but there is anticheat?? 😲😲😲 how did he do??
@@f3rny_66 not really because vac detects cheats only that had been banned for them already but paid cheats are specifically coded ftor u and untiml u get banned that cheat won't be on vac. The reason they more expensive becausw on faceit and esea there is more on the line andd on mm is just useless rank. But esea and faceit improved report systems and has active admins and bans cheaters eventually on mm tho it takes longer till one day they get overwatched and if they hide it good never while faceit esea u can report to active admins and there is vac and their own anticheat
Theres no video game in which you cant cheat, in fact the one where its harder to do are usually the one where people spend the most time crafting sneaky cheat (ex: valorant) the thing is you can always use external cheat for very cheap and if you play smart its undetectable
Except for lan tournament where they provide you the whole set up and watch you while you configure your settings
@@holy_pony8873 Did you graduate from reddit university
The only difference between this guy and the rest is the quality of the cheats. This dude doesn't have the expensive and exotic shit that the top "pro's" have.
Please don’t compare pros to no name hardstuck Main/adv players 😂😂😂😂
Even from the second round alone and considering how frequent he is shooting people through smokes... it's obvious.
3:50 Triggerbot?
This is an NA PRO? Holy fuck
This is the main/adv scene getting a chance to go pro lol. Not even close
What is up with his movement? It's so jerky
He mightve been cheating but bruh... have you seen any astralis demos? Those guys used to get 250 smoke kills per round
but they spammed the smoke with most of their kills
But all this cheater usually tap/burst specific spot in the smoke
That's what makes it sus
if u spray a lot and kills=its normal
But most of these cheaters either 1 tap people behind smoke/burst specific angle without info
U should aware of this if u play in high elo
there is nothing sus at any point in this demo...
idk if you are baiting these videos but im not sure if you are qualified in csgo
Why keep calling people like this “pro”? They aren’t pro they are just a cheater plain and simple
You stretching a lot on the calls where they are suspicious. If anything he definitely trigger botting.
bro, you commenting is not good, his teammate flash banana he need to look in the walls. For my side he dosent look fishy at all, he hide it so good. Some kill are kinda fishy but can happen.
Player Beta, a Pro? a Cheater?? who this Guy play like a Silver wtf this..