The fun part is that the actor who plays Doctor Han is actually the person responsible for The Good Doctor getting adapted from the original Korean show.
@WarGrowlmon18 Well hopefully Daniel Dae Kim can still be a part of the show from a writing/director standpoint. We all know Mr. Kim is currently playing Fire Lord Ozai in The Last Airbender. If anything Mr. Kim can always come back as a guest star if his shooting schedule allows him to.
I watched the kdrama long time ago when it came out. Every episode was amazing and the lead actor is extremely good for his role. If you like watching the American version I highly recommend the kdrama
@nathanielsahai1319 The actor who plays Dr Han also played Det. Chin Ho Kelly on Hawaii Five-0. After he left the series, his character slot got taken by the new recruits.
I met Daniel Dae Kim in Hawaii when he was playing his part for Hawaii Five-O. He was such a nice person and made us feel welcome around him, unlike some of those snobby Hollywood types.
@@mindyenglish5305 Lmao as someone who lived there growing up it was very nice minus the hurricanes and traffic during certain times, people are also amazingly friendly as long as you treat their island with respect.
It's very hard to find a real genuine actor that treats everyone with respect and dignity. In my lifetime I have had the chance to meet a few celebrities and most of the interactions I've had have been very positive. You can usually tell how an actor is in real life through their acting. Daniel Dae Kim is a great actor and a great person. You are very lucky to have met him and had such a great encounter with him. It's something you will remember for the rest of your life. I accidently met Stan Lee in 2010 at Comic Con. He was upset and swearing (as he was being escorted away with his security detail). But you know what? He's a human being! After I found out why he was upset and swearing. I still respected him and still do. Most actors/actresses and famous people don't realize that without fans they would be nobodies.
The worst part is: Everyone was professionally right to do what they did, and at the same time wrong. Shawn couldn't control himself and it cost him his job, Dr. Han is unable to control his personnel (which includes Shawn) and it cost him his job. Dr. Andrews fired Dr. Han because of Dr. Han's perception of Shawn and his inability to work with Shawn and his limitations. If it was a problem to begin with, the hospital would have never hired Shawn.
@@setaripantheon8801 Exactly. The hospital should have made sure that his employment was as supportive as his needs asked for. The hospital failed and in this meeting proved that they refused, through Dr. Han, to do so.
Steve was very wise even though he was kid and took his older brother responsibilities very serious due to how abusive their parents were towards Shaun. It’s actually really sad that Steve felt the need to step in to be the parent Shaun needed. It’s a shame they killed him off so soon.
@@Janu-lj9hf you are right such a shame but it’s kinda nice to watch Shaun’s perspectives. In every problem he had he imagined what would Steve do to learn how to be more understanding in front of people 😞 As (what would Steve do or say)
“Whenever people want you to do something they think is wrong they call it Reality” that quote really changed the way I saw a lot of things that helped me. It helped me re-examine a lot in my life and helped me come to a better way to handle individuals.
I have been told at various times, in a harsh voice “oh grow up!”. If being a harsh, rude, profane person to others is “growing up”, I will stay young at heart.
It's *very* important to shut off people's words and look at their actions. People literally use words to *define* reality. * Are they taking money? * Do they make you feel bad? * Are they hurting people?
"Well frankly Mr Zepeda while I understand your sentiment, I must stress. If you don't do chemotherapy, the cancer is sure to kill you. That's the reality." - Technicality Doctor.
Um... wrong. He owned up to the only surgical mistake he made and told Andrews, resulting in Glassman resigning. Shaun being blunt with patients is not a mistake to be corrected. I wish all doctors were like that!
@@iryu7288 Not really though, if he made a mistake at ANY job really, there would be no show because he would be fired and in the medial field, likely blacklisted.
@@tomboytrotter7755 I mean it’s not just young adults you act like there is a bunch of egocentric 40 to 50-year-olds that work all over the place that can admit that they’re wrong
@@thekeefchief3616 Went to edit and accidently deleted SMH (MY pc was lagging badly >.>) I never said that 40+ Year Olds didn't have this problem too I just said that from what I have seen its mostly been people in the age range between 15 and 25 can't have a CONSTRUCTIVE conversation without SOMEONE getting upset by something said. People need to grow a backbone/put their big girl/boy pants on as I stated before and get over it... simply walk away if you are truly THAT upset by something said... I'm just tired of having to walk on eggshells around people... I respect people who walk away if something upsets them rather than turn it into something big and obnoxious. Like I said too idk you I don't know if you are or aren't one of those people (Though honestly you don't seem like it to me so far, this is what I like someone willing to have a constructive conversation.)
It made me cry. I am not a doctor, I am a nurse. I corrected medical errors, saved loved and I was told," we don't think you are competent enough to work in ICU." " You lack of critical thinking" I dare not report them, in case they give revenge. I feel sorry for those people who choose that hospital 😢
I too am an RN. Nurses are cruel. I've been the target of alot of hate - just like you - and so I know what you're talking about... I wish I could tell you why so many are like that but I cant . I'm just sorry ut happened to you. And to me. To both of us.
@@Americanpatriot-zo2tk People like you are part of the problem. Don't excuse that type of behavior as if it's "acceptable" in any way. Its just too toxic and damaging to our field.
I was in and out of the hospital my whole life.. let me tell you healthcare workers in hospitals are the most sociopathic,narcissistic, megalomaniac scumbags ive EVER seen congregate in one place together… idk what it is that attracts the most morally defunct people to the job but they flock there like flies on dog shit
When you look at how far these doctors came with regards to Shaun. Andrew’s fought glassman every step of the way when he hired him but now here he is protecting him and standing up for him.
Hey, it's not unheard of. In fact, that's almost my training story. My first boss was not happy with The Match computer deciding we were married, and figured he'd get rid of me after my internship. Less than 12 months later, he fought like the Devil to keep me in the residency, and they let go two others docs with prettier resumes than mine go. There wasn't a patient I ever saw after that without Dr S standing behind me, demanding I be as good as he was and to do him proud. I was unbelievably fortunate to have that mentor and roll model shape me as a physician. Dr S died prematurely, lung cancer, the rare, non smoking type, two years after I finished my training.
I do agree that Shawn can be incredibly annoying and is pampered/coddled sometimes. But I have to say, the writers did a decent job of making Dr Han an antagonist in this storyline (I think villain might be too strong a word). He missed his own welcome brunch, making him appear arrogant. He barged into a non-urgent surgery he wasn’t needed at to assert dominance, and then proceeds to drill and humiliate resident doctors by putting them on the spot and asking questions during a freaking surgery because he has some “high standard”. He plays music distracting the autistic surgeon he wants to get rid of so badly. Three of his doctors are under review by the medical board for malpractice, but he proceeds to blackmail the board by spying on its members. Did it work? Yes but: He was patient, charming and intelligent, but in the long run, I think he would have done more harm than good. Everyone has hated Shaun at one point or the other, even Claire, but they grew to tolerate and appreciate him as time went on. Dr Han didn’t see the big picture, Shaun is an asset and wasn’t treated as such. You could order coaching from a psychiatrist or something, and either Shaun takes the offer or loses the job. Simple don't you think? Edit: Glassman tried to get Shaun coaching once, but Shaun refused and threw a big tantrum. I just realised that Dr Han forcing Shaun to get coaching might look like repetition to the writing team. They wouldn't want to repeat plot points so that makes sense...
I am not saying that its wrong to treat someone bad . But Murphy is coddled and he also rushed into a surgery on the first episode which is not allowed but got away with it. And also this is a drama so I am not shocked that because the show is about Shaun he wins.
Daniel dae Kim is such a great actor I’d love to see this man get his own show someday. He always stands out in his work. On lost He was one of the most complex and dynamic characters on the show a always thought he should have become the next jacob. But then he had a wife and baby so unless they were all gonna live on the island lol
@@firefly10241así es, lo malo fue que en Hawaii 5-0 no le dieron la importancia al personaje que interpretaba, siempre tenían más protagonismo Steve y Danny, por eso Daniel y Grace Park abandonaron el programa, ni siquiera los sueldos eran los mismos, no les querían igualar el sueldo. Fue la mejor decisión que tomaron, porque ellos se desarrollaron en proyectos diferentes que si han tenido éxito y Hawaii 5-0 después de la salida de la historia de Chin y Kono ya no fue igual.
People are saying Shawn should’ve been fired because he couldn’t control his outburst and emotions but dr Han moving him from being a surgeon which was completely unnecessary because what Shawn was completely rational. He told a mother of a patient that her antidepressants could’ve hurt the baby. Yeah that sucks but now she knows to never take antidepressants while pregnant. That seems like something a doctor should tell you. Yeah Shawn got angry and couldn’t control his anger because he had just been moved into a new job and he thought he had done nothing wrong.
Saw people say “the outbursts proved Han right. Except. (not an amazing comparison but I feel it works) You can’t provoke an animal by poking at it where you know it bothers them. then they lash out. And then say “this animal is aggressive.”
Shaun had multiple freak outs before that. That's not Shaun being provoked, that's a well know trigger being addressed. Shaun should have been moved out of the OR until he could get some better personal skills or he should have looked for a field where he wasn't endangering patients life in the middle of surgery. I'm autistic and my rights only extend so far as they infringe on someone else. Shaun Infringes on a lot of people and makes autistic people look like we're all idiot savants, when most autistic people just have the behaviour problems, not the savant part.
@@kyleellis1825 He did get a handle on it. In more recent years it happened only once when Shaun was literally in charge of a mass casualty event and had literally 5 different people yelling at him at once to solve their problems for them. After using the same trick he does to figure out how to treat a patient he found solutions for every single one of them in moments.
@@WarGrowlmon18 Thank you. That is actually a really good example of his recent growth. That should have been used more, especially this season to show he has overcome most of these things and that Dr Han was completely in the wrong about it. It came across completely differently for me because I had honestly forgotten that episode. This season should have reinforced how far Shaun has come and that he has overcome most of his issues.
I don't know why but him saying he couldn't control the staff really bugged me the wrong way. As much as he is a doctor, he needs to realize that everyone has their part. Your job is to lead not boss everyone around. In life we will never have full control of the problem we come to. You may plan a surgery one way but as you are doing it need to change or add on the list that needs to be done. Also, I noticed that a lot of people talking about Shaun bedside manner being bad, but most surgeons/doctors have a team of nurses and etc backing them up. I have met a lot of doctors who have bad bedside manner in just a simple walking/express care/ regular visits. I had one doctor who when I was only ten told me that I was exaggerated my pain and the next week I saw my actual doctor who immediately got me appointment with a specialist.
When I was 15 I had a doctor tell me I needed a in room prosecute. It was one I hated, and dressed over every time I needed it. I started panicking, and the doctor threatened to remove my parents from the room,, and hold me down in order to do the procedure.
@@patricelockertanthony7630brother Shaun is different case ,he had autism and can't handle pressure, that's why han doesn't want to put Shaun as a surgeon but other department.but Shaun refused. Han although is arrogant ,he still right about shaun.this show want us to see every person can be what they want to ,we just need to accept then and teach , it's true if they are normal person but Shaun is different case.in real life Shaun will never get hired in first place because the risk outweigh the good.
@@mrandrossguy9871basically making excuses for doing something shitty by stating that the world is shitty when we all have the power to make good and bad choices regardless of our environments or upbringings, at least that’s how I took it.
Experienced it too often. People are jealous of others who are better than them. If you don't stand up to them, they will always walk all over you. Unfortunately, people don't stand up for the truth.
As someone who is autistic(aspergers), and hasnt seen this show: Shawn: "I AM A SURGEON! I AM A SURGEON DR HAN!" Han: "No, Shawn, not anymore. You're just the good."
Sean would be able to sue the hospital that he was fired on the basis of his disability which makes him a protected class. It could also be said that the hospital failed to abide by the letter or spirit of the law as laid out by the ADA and make reasonable accommodations for Sean in the workplace
@@StarlahMutiny And why is that? Because he's a Surgeon. And incredibly unreliable, arrogant, self-serving surgeon that should never have been hired due to his very job being saving peoples' lives, but... Hey-ho, what's a few hundred lawsuits betwixt autists?
If you’re not willing to make accommodations for an employee that needs it, don’t hire them in the first place. If you need a new boss for that employee, it needs to be a boss that understands and is willing to make those accommodations. Or, again, not hire the person in the first place. Dr. Han and Dr. Murphy were on a collision course since they met
As someone on the spectrum myself… I see both sides of the argument. I once almost got fired because I said something that seemed racist even though I was thinking about something entirely different. The only reason I didn’t was by that point I was working there half a year and they knew I was anything but racist. This is something I’ve learned to better handle but not all on the spectrum have the ability to filter their thoughts. To those saying that he shouldn’t interact with the patients then let me ask.. as a patient we are always seen by our surgeon before and after surgery cause we want to know who we are entrusting our lives to… so would you feel comfortable not meeting your surgeon? No matter how awkward they are? To those saying it’s not in dr Hans job description to be able to accommodate for those with needs, that’s where your wrong, superiors need to understand their team in order to function properly. Case in point, let’s say instead of autism Shawn was in a wheel chair? Would the rest of the surgeons just leave him out cause they would need to lower the surgery table lower? I ask this hypothetically, but the accommodation for those with physical and mental disabilities should be applied as equally as possible. Please note I’m an artist not a doctor so this is just a perspective I was wondering if people saw.
I had a physician who was on the spectrum. He was incredibly nice and kind and comforting but straightforward. He was a resident and was going over the surgery I was to have, I also have had a neurological person with very high IQ and was a horrible surgeon and horrible with patient care
But wouldn't there potentially be other issues involved besides lowering the table? Since Shawn in this hypothetical scenario would be confined to a wheelchair, what if he had difficulty reaching over to a certain part of the patient's body from where he was? Would you expect him to wheel around the table to get to that part? Or any other issues that could potentially affect his ability operate where he needs to. While I suppose the other staff would have to work harder to accommodate him, it could easily snowball into a bigger problem. Patients can and will sue the hospital because "the surgeon was not only emotionally compromised but physically compromised". They'll ask why was he put in the OR in that situation to begin with? Just something to think about.
@@Frenzyshark I see you point but often times surgeons have assistants even when fully able to move to do things to assist. I dont see how just asking for assistance more and moving when needed would lead to a bigger problem? As for the patients sueing, yes that is true, but that would be discrimination wouldnt it? and cause of laws to protect others from that the patient suing is less likely to win. after all like shawn hypothetically the answer would be, "because they are good at what they do" I appreciate your opinion and thought experiment though :)
ah but you forget he eventually learns to understand the feeling and eventually does accept her prefered gender. He just didnt understand it and needed a little time to ask questions to learn... if you legitimately had no understanding of gender disphoria but want to learn about it wouldnt you ask questions from the person experiencing it?@@cintaminbunny
Ye no Han getting fired is just bad writing. Shaun on multiple occasions showed his emotions makes him unfit for the job. Just because he’s on the spectrum doesn’t mean anything. He just straight up will end up killing someone accidentally if left the way it is and Han saw that and didn’t want Murphy to possibly lose his entire career over it. This is a massive L on the show
They could have just copied "Better call Saul" have him lose his license for a season and he goes on a self discovery journey or some other crap. While giving side Characters at the hospital for Character growth.
@@margaretbush except he actively did show he was unfit. He doesn’t deserve his job when he acts that childish in something he needs to act like an adult. It’s bad writing to fire Han
I find it odd that not a lot of people can't understand Dr. Shaun's POV and can so easily side with Dr. Han. They're consciously aware that Dr. Shaun is on the spectrum. So, obviously, he's not gonna respond normally, as someone who is not of the spectrum would, to a lot of things. It's their job to accommodate the person they chose to hire without discrimination. And Dr. Han has discriminated Dr. Shaun a lot throughout the series without trying to understand how to communicate and accomodate Dr. Shaun who, once more, is on the spectrum. He's proven himself to be an amazing asset to the team. Wouldn't you wanna do all you could to keep your strongest asset on board by forcing people like Dr. Han to take a class on finding a way to better communicate with Dr. Shaun.
Now I understand your take on the matter, however one thing that could be argued is the notion that it is Dr.Hans job or that it is his responsibility to be accommodating to Dr.Shawn is unfair or unreasonable. His job requires that he makes sure that his staff does their job and have the means to do it but unless we review his job description or his contract then one could argue that the accommodation would be solely out of Dr.hans choice. Now, please don't assume this is my stance. I am just pointing out the assumption that is being made, that's all. I will say, though, that Dr.Hans treatment of Dr.Shawn was, in my eyes, wrong.
I have to say, I agree with both of you. However, at the same time, I disagree...to a point. If the hospital itself has taken the stance that they're willing to accommodate a surgeon with special needs (and make no mistake, Shawn has special needs!), then what were doing in hiring Dr Hahn in the first place? At the very least he wasn't well vetted and/or equipped to deal with someone requiring those types of needs. In saying that, if the hospital's stance is that the same rules and conditions apply to Shawn as everyone else, then it's clear Hahn was correct to let him go. We all know that not everyone is equipped to deal with someone with special needs. Was that in Hahn's job description? It's definitely not the type of skill you'd expect to need as a surgeon. A SN patient is one thing, but a SN employee is totally different. It obviously takes special type of person to a accommodate someone like Shawn not to mention the obvious burden it puts on not only his immediate supervisor (Hahn) but it also puts an extra burden on other employees. This may not be a popular opinion, but not everyone is as sweet and accommodating as Claire and Glassman and neither should they have to be. Especially if it's creating extra work or extra burden at work for them and it obviously does! I would hate to work with someone who could lose their sh*t at any moment, even in the middle of a surgical procedure... regardless of how brilliant they are. People like Shawn should not be discriminated against but at the same time, we should not have to pander to their every need either! I'm not saying he shouldn't have been employed there, but I am saying that I believe that the benefits of his brilliant do not always mitigate the risks of his limitations . I agree with their decision to give him a trial period to start with. But I also think that they needed to either allow Hahn to decide who worked for him if thats part of his job description. I also think that in deciding to keep Shawn on, they should have preempted something like this when a new team member came on board, so they wouldn't lose a talented surgeon over a junior surgeon. Which, by the way, I don't believe would happen in real life. Sorry for the novel, but these are my scattered opinions, for what they're worth!😅
"It's their job to accommodate the person they chose to hire without discrimination." Only within a reasonable degree not in every way or form. There are plenty of examples of where the accommodations were far beyond reasonable and people can be fired. If that person who is being accommodated for is still compromising patient care, then they have every right to fire that person. It isn't just about Dr. Shuan or Dr. Han, but also the patient's perspective that matters the most.
Accommodating Shaun IS NOT DR HAN's JOB. Expecting this is entitled nonsense. No one is special or gets special treatment. The patient and the team must come first. Whats next, we hire blind people to become surgeons? Intelligence is 50% of being a good doctor; This was the first thing they taught us in med school. Soft skills like communication and being able to work on a team is what employers are after. You either hire Shaun or Han. You can't keep both. A good employer wouldn't have created this mess to begin with.
@@adrianking6907 Legally he would have to make an accommodation for Shawn under the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) law. Entire businesses can get shut down if they do not follow the ADA. Not providing accommodations for someone who's disability qualifies under the ADA is called discrimination and is illegal to do so under the ADA. I know this because I am going to school to become a special education teacher and I am also on the spectrum.
Han demoted Shawn just because his blunt honesty in telling a patient's mother that her antidepressants may have cause the birth defect. The demotion, even if it wasn't really a such, made Han transferred him to pathology. To save patients without interacting with them. To would put all of Shawn's surgical skill into no uses. Shawn had ever right to b out raged when he got fired. He even knew someone who was autistic in his life, but all he says was the person died. I think there's a personal reason he disliked Shawn. So good riddance to him.
Yeah I agree. I think Andrews had a similar argument to Han at the start of the show but after seeing what Shaun could do for himself, he became one of Shaun's closest friends and defenders. He also knew not to coddle Shaun and respected him enough to treat Shaun just like anyone else.
What I never understood was the parents asked a legit good question, and Shaun answered honestly. What was he suppose to do lie? Then the parents would be mad, and he’d look bad. I think Han was looking for any reason to get rid of Shaun
Didn't Shawn leave an operation room MID SURGERY to do something else due to something bothering him? And also call a patient a TERRORIST for dealing with chemicals (which later revealed it was for perfumes)?
So Dr Han wants control instead of helping? I get it, he got the job to help however, that doesn't change the fact that he wanted to get rid of one of the better doctors there for being "Irrational and unprofessional" and because he couldn't "control his staff"
The fun part is that the actor who plays Doctor Han is actually the person responsible for The Good Doctor getting adapted from the original Korean show.
I've heard people say that the second season was anti asian because of Daniel Dae Kim's character. I am trying to understand were the accusations are coming from.
As a medical practitioner I can assure you; even with that much talent hospitals would not hire Shaun in today's world. I am not insulting his talent at all. At the same time he simply can't be hired for obvious reasons. I'm sorry if you feel offended. Empathy > Sympathy!
you seem to miss, Shaun has empathy, He just follows logic because factual and logical decision making will always be superior to emotional decision making. I guarantee you have seen people mistreat patients because they dont like them, Ive no doubt youve done it as well. Its human. Shaun cant do that, His entire mindset is revolving around saving a life, No matter how much he hates the patient, he will do everything in his power to save him, While some neurotypical doctors will pronounce people dead incorrectly because they dont like the person on the table/stretcher. Logic > Empathy. Its why humanity was able to progress as fast as it did. Emotions can inspire people to action, good or bad. Whereas logic is a constant long line of action, not requiring you to feel something to save a life. You just save it because life is precious.
Considering nearly all of the doctors I've had to deal with (as a patient) have been neurotypical and caused me more harm than when I went into the hospital in the first place. I disagree completely. Why? Because it's only the neurodivergent doctors I've had who actually listen to the patient because they don't let their personal ego's of thinking they are better than everyone else prevent them actually being a good doctor. You must cause your patients harm by making them feel unsafe in your presence and thinking you are a god who knows everything (aka pill popper). I know I would feel unsafe with you as a doctor. Turn in your medical license because you are likely causing direct harm to patients. Perhaps you should consider learning how to have empathy at all since you clearly have none.
I am Autistic (classified as mid-functioning, with high capability but notable emotional disturbance and disconnect), and this show angers me. Shaun isn't as simple as 'a surgeon with autism', he's a medicinal savant with extreme behavior and discipline issues. Dr. Han was absolutely in the right, because Shaun has no place being in a position where others' lives rely on him. He's self-indulgent, ignorant, impulsive, apathetic, and unreliable. I find myself falling into similar situations, except nobody has to worry about me walking out on them mid-surgery because I'm not putting myself in the position. Shaun doesn't deserve to be a surgeon, he doesn't deserve to keep his job, and he _especially_ doesn't deserve to keep it at the removal of Dr. Han. Shaun deserves patience, a smaller set of responsibilities, and mandatory behavior coaching sure, but that doesn't mean he can just get his old job back because a superior took pity on him for being autistic. I know Glassman tried professional coaching, and Shaun threw a tantrum, which is exactly the point of him not deserving to be a surgeon. Dr. Han explicitly pointed out that he tried to fire Shaun because he was unstable, unreliable, and impulsive (things you can't be when you're paid to save others' lives regularly), and the response was "He's mot mature enough to get another job, and also we'll miss him :(", as if that's remotely justifiable with stakes as high as the lives of uninvolved innocent patients.
You being autistic doesn’t mean you’re right…. In fact you’re completely false. Just because Shaun is on the spectrum doesn’t mean he “deserves” to be fired from a job that he LOVES and is good at.. they allow people with anger issues or disorders to be doctors but when autism is announced somehow he’s not capable of being a doctor? Have you actually watched the show to determine that Shaun never killed a patient with his outburst?
I'm also on the spectrum but I'm a very mild case and I fully agree with you. This show is a nice one to watch if your not here for realism, but no hospital would ever hire Shaun irl because he is a walking courtroom with how many lawsuits he would cause. I would never trust someone this obviously on the spectrum to be my surgeon, because you can't trust even a well adjusted autistic that far on the spectrum not to have a outburst if they are in a high stress environment, It just has way to much risk for them to hurt others or themselves. I like I said am a very mild case with all verbal communication fine but emotionally I'm hit-or-miss, with a spotty understanding of how to react to other people's emotions and a tendency to spiral into a emotional nosedive of whatever I'm feeling. A example is once my mom dropped a lit cigarette on the floor partway under her bed, and my first reaction was "fire! Need to pour water on it!" It hadn't did anything yet but I was a screaming, crying, panicking mess after my mom wouldn't let me pour water on it because of our weak flooring. I then proceeded to physically hurt myself throwing myself under the metal bedframe trying to grab it so it "wouldn't burn the house down" despite the fact it had gone out by this point. Someone who has Shaun's levels of communication and emotional difficulties is a very big risk in ANY mildly stressing job, let alone one where he is elbows deep in a person's insides sometimes multiple times a day.
It's why I hate Autistic rep in media. It's either Sheldon/ABed/Shaun/House, where they are know it all jerks but because they are almost always right, they get away with the bad behaviour. In real life, us autistic people ae usually way off with a situation.
Lol having worked with some exceptional, autistic, may I say you forget that everyone accommodates everyone . Shawn is a complex character who has been accomodated. A character. A lot of very unique persons have been memorable and dependable to their community.
Adults and childern with autisim will occasionally have meltdowns and burnouts . These can be mild or severe .I myself have had some of the more milder ones . Though there have been times were I got agressive .
Have ADHD (seen as the kissing cousin of autism) and I have them too. Had one a few days ago in a supermarket. It wasn't huge, thank goodness. I'd become overwhelmed because a shop assistant was confusing me and didn't answer a simple question. It didn't make sense what she was saying. It triggered a small meltdown
ok so those things do happen but also those things for many people if the people around him know what not to do that wont cause him to get triggered. i know for some people its routine, some people its extreme situations that he doesnt know how to react. shaun didnt like being told no or ignored and learn to work with it in the show. having to deal with those thiings while shauns savant syndome cause him to have the best doctor minds that he could understand quickly. shaun can understand reality as long as he is caused to go haywired. if u told me you for other people need to learn things not to do when a certain person is invloved but the trade off of the great surgeon minds u could have due to how his mind worked. that is a trade off that any hospital should make. having a higher up refusing to treat him like he should be treated caused many times where he was right even in very rare cases that not a single person in the building would thought of. ive only watch some of the show but they way he had his mind work is actually a reality for a lot of people who are autistic but its going to be random that they can learn. ive seen some kids on youtube have the most random perfect set of skill but it can be something useless for the most part but it is still impressive and allows him to be able to understand praise because of many of them misunderstand emotions properly without a lot of help
Looking back (as soneone on the spectrum myself), I don't think Han should've been fired for mistreating Shaun. Andrews should've given Han a chance to resign and leave on good terms. Then Andrews wouldn't have gotten fire. But, when Han transferred Shaun to patholgy, did Han speak to Andrews first before telling pathology to take Shaun in? If Han transferred Shaun without telling Andrews first, that's grounds for Han to be fired, for going behind Andrew's back. The fact Han said if he can't control his staff is basically him saying "Feel free to fire me." I think Han was only there just to collect a paycheck. He needed a job, took the first opening he saw. He kinda went off the deep end transferring Shaun to pathology after Shaun gave a paitent a worse case scenario. Any doctor could've told that mom the anti depressants were affecting the baby and the parents would still get upset. Instead of trying to help Shaun on how to communicate with patients better he just dumps him somewhere else. While there was no excuse for Shaun's meltdown, the fact Shaun did not stop at trying to get his old job back, was really good. Shaun could've just given up and stayed in pathology. But he stood his ground. Maybe he could've been a little nicer and asking for his old job back. Despite poor communication he could've said Dr. Han, please give me my job back.
As someone who has Aspergers syndrome we are so misunderstood and hated because we perceive things in a different way. In my own job I have difficulty at times connecting with others so I seen as being rude. Sometimes I am too direct but never mean any harm.
I go from being too direct to not direct enough. Something happened just today and even though I would have been pretty damn justified in losing my temper. I didn't.
@@truthseeker9249it’s hard to find the balance isn’t it. I just get to the point where I can’t worry about others’ feelings otherwise I’d never say anything to anyone.
The fun part is that the actor who plays Doctor Han is actually the person responsible for The Good Doctor getting adapted from the original Korean show.
To have a surgeon who is autistic, despite being a genius and talented surgeon, all that doesn't matter when he can't control his outbursts, emotions, his anger when confronted is a dangerous doctor.
@l0sts0ul89 _himself._ Imagine he has a really bad day when operating on a patient. He's gonna start boiling on the inside as the day goes and that could lead to his inner turmoil spilling out, harming whatever and whoever it touches.
@@l0sts0ul89 but it's a more signifcant issue with those on the spectrum, thus it's considered a special need. Their emotions are often amplified by a fixation trigger. Their impulses and habits are also affected by fixation triggers. Autistic people's fixation triggers are all different, but work in similar ways when active. If you have someone who's trigger focuses on one's wrongdoings or mistakes, frustration builds up at an accelerated rate in comparison to neurotypical people. Meaning the potential for an emotional outburst/meltdown is higher as well, and because of the fixation trigger amplifying what they feel, their brain will send more irrational signals the the body that correspond to whatever emotion they're feeling, making them appear more "animated" with their visual expressions. Imagine an animated expression of frustration and anger coming out of a surgeon that is operating on you and they start getting violent. The likelihood of that happening from an Autistic person vs. a Neurotypical one is higher, and thus feared more by the general public. This series is just propaganda to dissipate that stigma around Autistic doctors.
What made this scene so amazing is knowing he actively tried to get rid of shaun at first and now hes firing a head of department to save shauns job. I never sat through the entire show but every time i see this clip i just cant believe how much he has changed as a character.
Dr Han was the only one who didn't treat Shawn like a big baby, everyone else kept infantalizing him, coddling him, and giving him free passes for being autistic when the show is supposedly preaching about Shawn's disability not defining him.
I think you're wrong. The show has clearly demonstrated what Shaun has added to the team, and how much he's evolved as an autistic man. Requiring him to behave as others is ridiculous when "others" are all kinds of "otherwise" screwed up themselves (without autism to blame).
Claire and Glassman were the only ones who ever really coddled him. Morgan has always been blunt, and straight with Shaun along with Andrews. Park, and Lim know how Shaun is and know when he needs help (coddled) and when to treat him like an equal
So just cuk people with disabilities and I stead of accommodating them treat them like everyone else because that's the fair thing to do. Kk. Hey limpy just walk faster, not going to give you special treatment, don't define yourself by your disability.
100% agree Dr Han utilised Shaun’s skills in a way that it was advantageous to the hospital and the patients. The only problem was that Shaun wanted to be a surgeon and I think that’s where Dr Han screwed up. He should have continued to allow Shaun to be in operating rooms but work in pathology, in this way it’s a compromise and Shaun might have accepted.
He's saying if he can't have control over his own staff, then he can't work there. As in if he sees that someone is causing an issue, then he needs to be able to fire them. If a surgeon freaks out during a surgery and walks out then he needs to be able to say you can't continue to do this. This is normal in almost any working environment, but especially in a medical one
He made HALF of a genuinely good argument. Unfortunately, he left out of his reasoning the points that add up to Shaun staying, and that happened because Han couldn't separate his personal feelings from his professional feelings. EVERY professional organization accommodates people's quirks, characteristics, and conditions. How many "normal" managers, despite their foul tempers, and poor leadership, remain on their jobs despite plenty of reasons to dismiss them. Heck, there were reasons to fire Han. He insisted on "controlling" his staff instead of leading them, understanding them, supporting them. It made him a bully and a poor leader.
He's the bad guy not because he's Right about Shawn but because of how he treats not just Shawn but everyone else. He blackmails people to get malpractice charges dropped, he intentionally disturbs surgeries that he is not part of to "help" by distracting the head surgeon at the time with stupid questions not about the surgery which could have caused issues, he doesn't correct any of the residents properly (he tells them they made a mistake and instead od going over how to fix it or what they should have done instead he verbally derives them into thinking they shouldn't have tried to begin with) He's a problem in a lot of ways for the hospital as a whole. Not just Shawn.
@@Khontis The problem is, in every other instance he is clearly the bad guy. With Shaun, he's making the mostly correct decisions (as we can tell by the doctors employed in america right now).
I have a a feeling that some point in the next season Dr.Han will return as a patient from a car accident. Shaun will be the one who save him since it’s a difficult surgery than the team thought. After the surgery Dr.Han realizes that he made a big mistake of how he treated Shaun and apologizes to him.
Or on the flipside, same scenario - but Shaun instead has yet another emotional flipout and walks out of the surgery, and Han dies because of it. At which point, OOPSIE! Maybe they shouldn't have let the guy who has repeatedly shown can't communicate, control emotion, or do his basic job duties operate on people whom lives are on the line.
Dr. Han was so made about being fired he switched universes to rule the Fire Nation
Went to a Saint, To Detective, To Doctor, and now a Fire Lord
Don't forget he was in an episode of Star Trek Voyager!
Now he work in new amsterdam 😂
@@FortoFight star trek enterprise too
He also got trapped on an island one time.
The fun part is that the actor who plays Doctor Han is actually the person responsible for The Good Doctor getting adapted from the original Korean show.
@WarGrowlmon18 Well hopefully Daniel Dae Kim can still be a part of the show from a writing/director standpoint. We all know Mr. Kim is currently playing Fire Lord Ozai in The Last Airbender. If anything Mr. Kim can always come back as a guest star if his shooting schedule allows him to.
So good doctor are actually a K-drama?
@@Panzefaust Originally I guess.
WOW. You learn something everyday. I never knew that.
I watched the kdrama long time ago when it came out. Every episode was amazing and the lead actor is extremely good for his role. If you like watching the American version I highly recommend the kdrama
God I can't get passed Dr. Hans immaculate cheekbones and jawline.
That's Johnny Gat, what do you expect?
That's thing compared to my power hungry (characters he plays) actor, Dan Southworth.
I’m not gay but he’s fine as fuck
He is one of many, God’s most beautiful creations.❤
Which god? @@t.5021
Staff members: Dr. Han! You're fired!
Dr.Han: Ok.... The next time you'll see me.... All of you will burn
WTF is it with the Han Ozai jokes? I don’t get it.
@@DiamondAviator4 The actor who played as Dr.Han plays Firelord Ozai in the live action show of Avatar the last airbender
@@PerfectCell1994 ah ok
Gotta have some serious balls to fire Johnny gat pmsl
@@PerfectCell1994the live action doesn’t compare to the original
He got fired, so he became the fire lord
Dude I was about to write that.... Then I found this. 😂💯
Well, his previous job at Five-0 got taken.
@danielhaire6677 what job and who are you referring to?
@nathanielsahai1319 The actor who plays Dr Han also played Det. Chin Ho Kelly on Hawaii Five-0. After he left the series, his character slot got taken by the new recruits.
The Fired Lord?
I love the moment in the climactic season finale where a lawyer says ‘Your honour, he is a surgeon’ and then everyone starts crying. Beautiful 😭
HE IS A SURGEON
Sturgeon.
Your honor, he is a sturgeon.
@@MrBerserkinTimeHe’s also in Home Economics 😂
He is a SpongeBob
Dr. Han knows the Sozin’s comet is coming so he’s not worried about getting his position back.
How does this not have a comment. I will not allow it.
@@LORD4GIVEME1991 Best comment ive seen today 😂
@@alastor49876 thank you 🙏
pretty sure he's also going to play Admiral Akainu in the one piece live action
i love how he doesn't say "Shaun was right", he says "Steve was right" and Glassman is the only one that knew who he was talking about.
I met Daniel Dae Kim in Hawaii when he was playing his part for Hawaii Five-O. He was such a nice person and made us feel welcome around him, unlike some of those snobby Hollywood types.
That's because you're not a surgeon
Everyone is nice in Hawaii. I think it's the sound of the waves, or the perfect weather. Even I was pleasant for the two weeks I was there. 🤣😅😂
@@mindyenglish5305 Lmao as someone who lived there growing up it was very nice minus the hurricanes and traffic during certain times, people are also amazingly friendly as long as you treat their island with respect.
It's very hard to find a real genuine actor that treats everyone with respect and dignity. In my lifetime I have had the chance to meet a few celebrities and most of the interactions I've had have been very positive. You can usually tell how an actor is in real life through their acting. Daniel Dae Kim is a great actor and a great person. You are very lucky to have met him and had such a great encounter with him. It's something you will remember for the rest of your life. I accidently met Stan Lee in 2010 at Comic Con. He was upset and swearing (as he was being escorted away with his security detail). But you know what? He's a human being! After I found out why he was upset and swearing. I still respected him and still do. Most actors/actresses and famous people don't realize that without fans they would be nobodies.
Also, he played a psychopath Johnny Gat from Saints Row.
The worst part is: Everyone was professionally right to do what they did, and at the same time wrong. Shawn couldn't control himself and it cost him his job, Dr. Han is unable to control his personnel (which includes Shawn) and it cost him his job. Dr. Andrews fired Dr. Han because of Dr. Han's perception of Shawn and his inability to work with Shawn and his limitations. If it was a problem to begin with, the hospital would have never hired Shawn.
and whats funny is that hes probably the best surgeon over there with probably the best mind to solve a problem because of his autism.
@@kabirsardana1282he also has savant syndrome
@@kaislater2640I learned a new word cool thanks and nice knowledge but that wasn't new for me hopefully other people have learned something new
The last statement clears Shawn from being fired tho..
@@setaripantheon8801 Exactly. The hospital should have made sure that his employment was as supportive as his needs asked for. The hospital failed and in this meeting proved that they refused, through Dr. Han, to do so.
Why Dr han got the strongest jawline of all time 💀💀
He’s Korean. Probably got touched by an angel, or a surgeon, or two… 😂😅
Second, strongest next to cillian Murphy
🤫🤏
He got touched by an angel. Juvederm. 😜😉
They say under chuck Norris beard there’s two Bowie knives
Dr. Han: “Welp, back to Hawaii.” *hawaii five-o theme plays*
Oh shit, I thought i recognized him from somewhere else.
You win the internet for today!
I was gonna say he decided to go back to the Third Street Saints.
@@ForgottenHonor0 OH YEAH HE’S THE VOICE OF JOHNNY GAT LMAO
Wasn't he on Lost too?
“Steve was right” always makes me cry he still learning from his brother
Steve was very wise even though he was kid and took his older brother responsibilities very serious due to how abusive their parents were towards Shaun. It’s actually really sad that Steve felt the need to step in to be the parent Shaun needed. It’s a shame they killed him off so soon.
@@Janu-lj9hf you are right such a shame but it’s kinda nice to watch Shaun’s perspectives. In every problem he had he imagined what would Steve do to learn how to be more understanding in front of people 😞
As (what would Steve do or say)
“Whenever people want you to do something they think is wrong they call it Reality” that quote really changed the way I saw a lot of things that helped me. It helped me re-examine a lot in my life and helped me come to a better way to handle individuals.
I have been told at various times, in a harsh voice “oh grow up!”. If being a harsh, rude, profane person to others is “growing up”, I will stay young at heart.
It's *very* important to shut off people's words and look at their actions. People literally use words to *define* reality.
* Are they taking money?
* Do they make you feel bad?
* Are they hurting people?
"Well frankly Mr Zepeda while I understand your sentiment, I must stress. If you don't do chemotherapy, the cancer is sure to kill you. That's the reality." - Technicality Doctor.
Exactly. It also explains how bitterness and crab in the pot mentality will have them only ever describe reality this way.
It definitely was a powerful statement
My brother Steve said "Whenever ppl want you to do something
they think it is wrong, they say it's reality"..... Period
and other times, they are pointing out the cliff you are walking towards.
@@kyleellis1825 yadda yadda you missed the POINT
He just has so much respect for his friend, I'm tearing up inside😭
Dr. Han mewing while sitting in the board meeting 🗿
I still think it's stupid to call it "mewing". Why not just call it a cheek workout or literally anything other than the sound kittens make?
@@mask938 More low IQ Gen Z/Gen Alpha slang.
@@mask938 idk man. I didn't make the name. I do think something as stupid as the act deserves a name to match.
@@mask938 mog mog mog mog mog
@@Frilabird What?
However they forgot,
He is a surgeon
“not anymore”
@@nicholasfactor”its treason then”
Shaun has plot armor thicker than all anime characters combine, dude can never did wrong and if did it wasn't his fault.
Um... wrong. He owned up to the only surgical mistake he made and told Andrews, resulting in Glassman resigning. Shaun being blunt with patients is not a mistake to be corrected. I wish all doctors were like that!
I mean, he's the main character? What are you expecting? lol
@@tabortoothtiger7580 mistake, so he can grow as better Doctor/Character. At this rate he's more perfect than Rey skywalker.
@@iryu7288 Not really though, if he made a mistake at ANY job really, there would be no show because he would be fired and in the medial field, likely blacklisted.
@@tabortoothtiger7580theres a difference between a well written main character and a mary sue...hence the term "mary sue"
I like entire room of highly educated people pinpointing their opinions without raising voice, and making decision like civilized grown adults.
Like fiction
That’s how you know it’s fiction
@@tomboytrotter7755 I mean it’s not just young adults you act like there is a bunch of egocentric 40 to 50-year-olds that work all over the place that can admit that they’re wrong
@@thekeefchief3616 Went to edit and accidently deleted SMH (MY pc was lagging badly >.>) I never said that 40+ Year Olds didn't have this problem too I just said that from what I have seen its mostly been people in the age range between 15 and 25 can't have a CONSTRUCTIVE conversation without SOMEONE getting upset by something said. People need to grow a backbone/put their big girl/boy pants on as I stated before and get over it... simply walk away if you are truly THAT upset by something said... I'm just tired of having to walk on eggshells around people... I respect people who walk away if something upsets them rather than turn it into something big and obnoxious. Like I said too idk you I don't know if you are or aren't one of those people (Though honestly you don't seem like it to me so far, this is what I like someone willing to have a constructive conversation.)
Ignore the caps sorry lol
It made me cry. I am not a doctor, I am a nurse. I corrected medical errors, saved loved and I was told," we don't think you are competent enough to work in ICU." " You lack of critical thinking"
I dare not report them, in case they give revenge.
I feel sorry for those people who choose that hospital 😢
I too am an RN.
Nurses are cruel.
I've been the target of alot of hate - just like you - and so I know what you're talking about...
I wish I could tell you why so many are like that but I cant .
I'm just sorry ut happened to you.
And to me.
To both of us.
@@inthelandofmorethansmall7582if one persons an asshole at the hospital, they just suck, if everyone's an asshole, you suck
Welcome to nursing.
@@Americanpatriot-zo2tk People like you are part of the problem. Don't excuse that type of behavior as if it's "acceptable" in any way.
Its just too toxic and damaging to our field.
I was in and out of the hospital my whole life.. let me tell you healthcare workers in hospitals are the most sociopathic,narcissistic, megalomaniac scumbags ive EVER seen congregate in one place together… idk what it is that attracts the most morally defunct people to the job but they flock there like flies on dog shit
When you look at how far these doctors came with regards to Shaun. Andrew’s fought glassman every step of the way when he hired him but now here he is protecting him and standing up for him.
Hey, it's not unheard of. In fact, that's almost my training story. My first boss was not happy with The Match computer deciding we were married, and figured he'd get rid of me after my internship. Less than 12 months later, he fought like the Devil to keep me in the residency, and they let go two others docs with prettier resumes than mine go. There wasn't a patient I ever saw after that without Dr S standing behind me, demanding I be as good as he was and to do him proud. I was unbelievably fortunate to have that mentor and roll model shape me as a physician. Dr S died prematurely, lung cancer, the rare, non smoking type, two years after I finished my training.
Shaun has taught them all so much compassion and he has grown, as a person
Not grown to be less fuckin annoying though
No, he is a selfs centered prick.
Shaun taught them all that he is a surgeon for sure
@@microwave4928 you are a bad person 💀
I do agree that Shawn can be incredibly annoying and is pampered/coddled sometimes. But I have to say, the writers did a decent job of making Dr Han an antagonist in this storyline (I think villain might be too strong a word).
He missed his own welcome brunch, making him appear arrogant. He barged into a non-urgent surgery he wasn’t needed at to assert dominance, and then proceeds to drill and humiliate resident doctors by putting them on the spot and asking questions during a freaking surgery because he has some “high standard”. He plays music distracting the autistic surgeon he wants to get rid of so badly. Three of his doctors are under review by the medical board for malpractice, but he proceeds to blackmail the board by spying on its members. Did it work? Yes but:
He was patient, charming and intelligent, but in the long run, I think he would have done more harm than good. Everyone has hated Shaun at one point or the other, even Claire, but they grew to tolerate and appreciate him as time went on. Dr Han didn’t see the big picture, Shaun is an asset and wasn’t treated as such. You could order coaching from a psychiatrist or something, and either Shaun takes the offer or loses the job.
Simple don't you think?
Edit: Glassman tried to get Shaun coaching once, but Shaun refused and threw a big tantrum. I just realised that Dr Han forcing Shaun to get coaching might look like repetition to the writing team. They wouldn't want to repeat plot points so that makes sense...
Yes. I agree and the simple answer for everything you said is… he’s autistic/on the spectrum.
1000%
Dr Han: chad
Shawn: virgin
I am not saying that its wrong to treat someone bad . But Murphy is coddled and he also rushed into a surgery on the first episode which is not allowed but got away with it. And also this is a drama so I am not shocked that because the show is about Shaun he wins.
He's "pampered" because he has autism and needs a different set of social cues and environment... Have you read the ada before?
Daniel dae Kim is such a great actor I’d love to see this man get his own show someday. He always stands out in his work. On lost He was one of the most complex and dynamic characters on the show a always thought he should have become the next jacob. But then he had a wife and baby so unless they were all gonna live on the island lol
He was also on Hawaii 5.0. He is really good.
@@firefly10241así es, lo malo fue que en Hawaii 5-0 no le dieron la importancia al personaje que interpretaba, siempre tenían más protagonismo Steve y Danny, por eso Daniel y Grace Park abandonaron el programa, ni siquiera los sueldos eran los mismos, no les querían igualar el sueldo. Fue la mejor decisión que tomaron, porque ellos se desarrollaron en proyectos diferentes que si han tenido éxito y Hawaii 5-0 después de la salida de la historia de Chin y Kono ya no fue igual.
I love how Andrews grew fond of Shaun
SAMEEEE
I love the part when Shaun Sturgeonson said "It's sturging time", and he sturged all over the place.
The way Dr.andrews first opposed hireing Dr
Shaun and wanted to fire some one to save Dr.shaun❤❤
Whenever people wanted you to do something that is wrong, they say it is ‘reality’.
People are saying Shawn should’ve been fired because he couldn’t control his outburst and emotions but dr Han moving him from being a surgeon which was completely unnecessary because what Shawn was completely rational. He told a mother of a patient that her antidepressants could’ve hurt the baby. Yeah that sucks but now she knows to never take antidepressants while pregnant. That seems like something a doctor should tell you. Yeah Shawn got angry and couldn’t control his anger because he had just been moved into a new job and he thought he had done nothing wrong.
Saw people say “the outbursts proved Han right.
Except. (not an amazing comparison but I feel it works)
You can’t provoke an animal by poking at it where you know it bothers them. then they lash out. And then say “this animal is aggressive.”
It was heavily implied that Han was prejudiced due to some kind of an experience with an autistic person in the past who had ended up dying.
Shaun had multiple freak outs before that. That's not Shaun being provoked, that's a well know trigger being addressed. Shaun should have been moved out of the OR until he could get some better personal skills or he should have looked for a field where he wasn't endangering patients life in the middle of surgery.
I'm autistic and my rights only extend so far as they infringe on someone else. Shaun Infringes on a lot of people and makes autistic people look like we're all idiot savants, when most autistic people just have the behaviour problems, not the savant part.
@@kyleellis1825 He did get a handle on it. In more recent years it happened only once when Shaun was literally in charge of a mass casualty event and had literally 5 different people yelling at him at once to solve their problems for them. After using the same trick he does to figure out how to treat a patient he found solutions for every single one of them in moments.
@@WarGrowlmon18 Thank you. That is actually a really good example of his recent growth. That should have been used more, especially this season to show he has overcome most of these things and that Dr Han was completely in the wrong about it.
It came across completely differently for me because I had honestly forgotten that episode. This season should have reinforced how far Shaun has come and that he has overcome most of his issues.
Honestly, in a live or death situation, you shouldn't have to worry how to comunicate with your doctor colegue.
Wings of freedom, always. And thank you
I don't know why but him saying he couldn't control the staff really bugged me the wrong way. As much as he is a doctor, he needs to realize that everyone has their part. Your job is to lead not boss everyone around. In life we will never have full control of the problem we come to. You may plan a surgery one way but as you are doing it need to change or add on the list that needs to be done. Also, I noticed that a lot of people talking about Shaun bedside manner being bad, but most surgeons/doctors have a team of nurses and etc backing them up. I have met a lot of doctors who have bad bedside manner in just a simple walking/express care/ regular visits. I had one doctor who when I was only ten told me that I was exaggerated my pain and the next week I saw my actual doctor who immediately got me appointment with a specialist.
Well stated.💞
When I was 15 I had a doctor tell me I needed a in room prosecute. It was one I hated, and dressed over every time I needed it. I started panicking, and the doctor threatened to remove my parents from the room,, and hold me down in order to do the procedure.
Doctors like that shouldn’t even be doctors to begin with if they’re gonna be complete ass holes towards the people they’re supposed to be helping 😡
@blindentertainment9412 what kind of procedure was it?
@@patricelockertanthony7630brother Shaun is different case ,he had autism and can't handle pressure, that's why han doesn't want to put Shaun as a surgeon but other department.but Shaun refused.
Han although is arrogant ,he still right about shaun.this show want us to see every person can be what they want to ,we just need to accept then and teach , it's true if they are normal person but Shaun is different case.in real life Shaun will never get hired in first place because the risk outweigh the good.
He's not ready to move on
Neither am I. ❤❤❤❤❤❤ God such a heart touching scene
Especially because it also was clear that Dr. Han WAS ready to move on and give up. That's why he was let go. He gave up but Shaun didn't.
Love listening to Odin talk about scientific specifics lol
"Whenever people want you to do something they think is wrong, they say 'It's reality'."
What does that even mean ?
@@mrandrossguy9871basically making excuses for doing something shitty by stating that the world is shitty when we all have the power to make good and bad choices regardless of our environments or upbringings, at least that’s how I took it.
@@christiantrent1030 hmm
Imagine studying hard to become doctor and be good at it then come one person who try to destroy your career
Isn’t that true of all workplaces?
That’s healthcare! Happens all the time
It does happen my boss
Happens
Experienced it too often. People are jealous of others who are better than them. If you don't stand up to them, they will always walk all over you. Unfortunately, people don't stand up for the truth.
Dr.Murphy is an individual and should be treated as such also he's a very good doctor there's no ORDER IN BEING A GOOD!!!
As someone who is autistic(aspergers), and hasnt seen this show:
Shawn: "I AM A SURGEON! I AM A SURGEON DR HAN!"
Han: "No, Shawn, not anymore. You're just the good."
@@xleplayVAwatch the show then it’s very good
😂😂 His Johnny Gat is showing ❤
Holy FUCK that’s why I keep looking at that dude like ive interacted with him before.
Holy shit. He is Gat?
0:27 *"you missed a job interview!"* 😨
I'll admit I haven't been keeping up, but it's safe to say they chose inspiration over ego.
Sean would be able to sue the hospital that he was fired on the basis of his disability which makes him a protected class. It could also be said that the hospital failed to abide by the letter or spirit of the law as laid out by the ADA and make reasonable accommodations for Sean in the workplace
Shaun surgeoned Dr Han out of his job this is so sad
Kinda great, actually.
Nah; Han sucks and was awful to Shaun the whole time.
@@StarlahMutiny And why is that? Because he's a Surgeon.
And incredibly unreliable, arrogant, self-serving surgeon that should never have been hired due to his very job being saving peoples' lives, but... Hey-ho, what's a few hundred lawsuits betwixt autists?
Even being fired Han still somehow manages to look smug and arrogant.
I noticed that, too. And really, is that a good look for a Fire Lord?
That's a narcissistic ego I must dare to say-.
I think you mean based and sigmapilled
@@jackblaisdell4097 No. definitely not that.
@@jackblaisdell4097it’s ok - you’ll grow up someday
If you’re not willing to make accommodations for an employee that needs it, don’t hire them in the first place. If you need a new boss for that employee, it needs to be a boss that understands and is willing to make those accommodations. Or, again, not hire the person in the first place. Dr. Han and Dr. Murphy were on a collision course since they met
Shaun is a nepo hire, it's right in his bio
"Only considered because the hospital president fought for it"
I don't know if you know this guys... But he's actually a surgeon
he is a sturgeon.
I thought he was a good doctor 🤔
@@BojackHex maybe he's a good sturgeon
@@noureddinealjazairi6063he was the best sturgeon
“not anymore”
I always get so flabbergasted at Dr Han’s strong ass jawline like HELLO???
it's typical for jerks to switch the blame on you for standing up for yourself
He is a surgeon
He is a surgeon
He is a surgeon
He is a surgeon
Cutting for the very first time!
He's a surgeon, got your heartbeat, on his mind...
He is a surgeon
As someone on the spectrum myself… I see both sides of the argument. I once almost got fired because I said something that seemed racist even though I was thinking about something entirely different. The only reason I didn’t was by that point I was working there half a year and they knew I was anything but racist. This is something I’ve learned to better handle but not all on the spectrum have the ability to filter their thoughts.
To those saying that he shouldn’t interact with the patients then let me ask.. as a patient we are always seen by our surgeon before and after surgery cause we want to know who we are entrusting our lives to… so would you feel comfortable not meeting your surgeon? No matter how awkward they are?
To those saying it’s not in dr Hans job description to be able to accommodate for those with needs, that’s where your wrong, superiors need to understand their team in order to function properly. Case in point, let’s say instead of autism Shawn was in a wheel chair? Would the rest of the surgeons just leave him out cause they would need to lower the surgery table lower? I ask this hypothetically, but the accommodation for those with physical and mental disabilities should be applied as equally as possible.
Please note I’m an artist not a doctor so this is just a perspective I was wondering if people saw.
I had a physician who was on the spectrum. He was incredibly nice and kind and comforting but straightforward. He was a resident and was going over the surgery I was to have, I also have had a neurological person with very high IQ and was a horrible surgeon and horrible with patient care
But wouldn't there potentially be other issues involved besides lowering the table? Since Shawn in this hypothetical scenario would be confined to a wheelchair, what if he had difficulty reaching over to a certain part of the patient's body from where he was? Would you expect him to wheel around the table to get to that part? Or any other issues that could potentially affect his ability operate where he needs to. While I suppose the other staff would have to work harder to accommodate him, it could easily snowball into a bigger problem.
Patients can and will sue the hospital because "the surgeon was not only emotionally compromised but physically compromised". They'll ask why was he put in the OR in that situation to begin with?
Just something to think about.
@@Frenzyshark I see you point but often times surgeons have assistants even when fully able to move to do things to assist. I dont see how just asking for assistance more and moving when needed would lead to a bigger problem?
As for the patients sueing, yes that is true, but that would be discrimination wouldnt it? and cause of laws to protect others from that the patient suing is less likely to win. after all like shawn hypothetically the answer would be, "because they are good at what they do"
I appreciate your opinion and thought experiment though :)
He straight up told a Trans patient they weren't Trans multiple times and had never heard of gender dysmorphia. He doesn't need to be around patient.
ah but you forget he eventually learns to understand the feeling and eventually does accept her prefered gender. He just didnt understand it and needed a little time to ask questions to learn... if you legitimately had no understanding of gender disphoria but want to learn about it wouldnt you ask questions from the person experiencing it?@@cintaminbunny
He's gone now and Shaun makes for a really great attending as it turns out.😎😎😎
That was the most elegant relaxed yet emotional firing I’ve seen haha - brilliant flex.
Ye no Han getting fired is just bad writing. Shaun on multiple occasions showed his emotions makes him unfit for the job. Just because he’s on the spectrum doesn’t mean anything. He just straight up will end up killing someone accidentally if left the way it is and Han saw that and didn’t want Murphy to possibly lose his entire career over it. This is a massive L on the show
They could have just copied "Better call Saul" have him lose his license for a season and he goes on a self discovery journey or some other crap. While giving side Characters at the hospital for Character growth.
But he didn’t so why are you making up a scenario? In that case having irrational emotions is unfit for ALL professions. And what happens next?
@@margaretbush except he actively did show he was unfit. He doesn’t deserve his job when he acts that childish in something he needs to act like an adult. It’s bad writing to fire Han
@@margaretbush He called a patient a terrorist. That's something he's already done.
I find it odd that not a lot of people can't understand Dr. Shaun's POV and can so easily side with Dr. Han. They're consciously aware that Dr. Shaun is on the spectrum. So, obviously, he's not gonna respond normally, as someone who is not of the spectrum would, to a lot of things. It's their job to accommodate the person they chose to hire without discrimination. And Dr. Han has discriminated Dr. Shaun a lot throughout the series without trying to understand how to communicate and accomodate Dr. Shaun who, once more, is on the spectrum. He's proven himself to be an amazing asset to the team. Wouldn't you wanna do all you could to keep your strongest asset on board by forcing people like Dr. Han to take a class on finding a way to better communicate with Dr. Shaun.
Now I understand your take on the matter, however one thing that could be argued is the notion that it is Dr.Hans job or that it is his responsibility to be accommodating to Dr.Shawn is unfair or unreasonable. His job requires that he makes sure that his staff does their job and have the means to do it but unless we review his job description or his contract then one could argue that the accommodation would be solely out of Dr.hans choice. Now, please don't assume this is my stance. I am just pointing out the assumption that is being made, that's all. I will say, though, that Dr.Hans treatment of Dr.Shawn was, in my eyes, wrong.
I have to say, I agree with both of you. However, at the same time, I disagree...to a point. If the hospital itself has taken the stance that they're willing to accommodate a surgeon with special needs (and make no mistake, Shawn has special needs!), then what were doing in hiring Dr Hahn in the first place? At the very least he wasn't well vetted and/or equipped to deal with someone requiring those types of needs.
In saying that, if the hospital's stance is that the same rules and conditions apply to Shawn as everyone else, then it's clear Hahn was correct to let him go. We all know that not everyone is equipped to deal with someone with special needs. Was that in Hahn's job description? It's definitely not the type of skill you'd expect to need as a surgeon. A SN patient is one thing, but a SN employee is totally different. It obviously takes special type of person to a accommodate someone like Shawn not to mention the obvious burden it puts on not only his immediate supervisor (Hahn) but it also puts an extra burden on other employees.
This may not be a popular opinion, but not everyone is as sweet and accommodating as Claire and Glassman and neither should they have to be. Especially if it's creating extra work or extra burden at work for them and it obviously does! I would hate to work with someone who could lose their sh*t at any moment, even in the middle of a surgical procedure... regardless of how brilliant they are. People like Shawn should not be discriminated against but at the same time, we should not have to pander to their every need either!
I'm not saying he shouldn't have been employed there, but I am saying that I believe that the benefits of his brilliant do not always mitigate the risks of his limitations . I agree with their decision to give him a trial period to start with. But I also think that they needed to either allow Hahn to decide who worked for him if thats part of his job description. I also think that in deciding to keep Shawn on, they should have preempted something like this when a new team member came on board, so they wouldn't lose a talented surgeon over a junior surgeon. Which, by the way, I don't believe would happen in real life. Sorry for the novel, but these are my scattered opinions, for what they're worth!😅
"It's their job to accommodate the person they chose to hire without discrimination." Only within a reasonable degree not in every way or form. There are plenty of examples of where the accommodations were far beyond reasonable and people can be fired. If that person who is being accommodated for is still compromising patient care, then they have every right to fire that person. It isn't just about Dr. Shuan or Dr. Han, but also the patient's perspective that matters the most.
Accommodating Shaun IS NOT DR HAN's JOB. Expecting this is entitled nonsense. No one is special or gets special treatment. The patient and the team must come first. Whats next, we hire blind people to become surgeons? Intelligence is 50% of being a good doctor; This was the first thing they taught us in med school. Soft skills like communication and being able to work on a team is what employers are after. You either hire Shaun or Han. You can't keep both. A good employer wouldn't have created this mess to begin with.
@@adrianking6907 Legally he would have to make an accommodation for Shawn under the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) law. Entire businesses can get shut down if they do not follow the ADA. Not providing accommodations for someone who's disability qualifies under the ADA is called discrimination and is illegal to do so under the ADA. I know this because I am going to school to become a special education teacher and I am also on the spectrum.
The greatest injustice in all of fiction.
Han demoted Shawn just because his blunt honesty in telling a patient's mother that her antidepressants may have cause the birth defect. The demotion, even if it wasn't really a such, made Han transferred him to pathology. To save patients without interacting with them. To would put all of Shawn's surgical skill into no uses. Shawn had ever right to b out raged when he got fired. He even knew someone who was autistic in his life, but all he says was the person died. I think there's a personal reason he disliked Shawn. So good riddance to him.
Doctors need to be very careful with telling stuff to patients. So yeah, I wouldn't want someone like Shawn interacting with patients.
Yeah I agree. I think Andrews had a similar argument to Han at the start of the show but after seeing what Shaun could do for himself, he became one of Shaun's closest friends and defenders. He also knew not to coddle Shaun and respected him enough to treat Shaun just like anyone else.
any surgeon who spergs out and walks out of a surgery should be fired lol
What I never understood was the parents asked a legit good question, and Shaun answered honestly. What was he suppose to do lie? Then the parents would be mad, and he’d look bad. I think Han was looking for any reason to get rid of Shaun
Didn't Shawn leave an operation room MID SURGERY to do something else due to something bothering him? And also call a patient a TERRORIST for dealing with chemicals (which later revealed it was for perfumes)?
I’m offended because he thinks he doesn’t know what he’s doing but he does know it’s just hard to put it in words same as for me.
Well then don’t get so offended when people are legitimately having trouble understanding you.
I like how calm Doctor Han is. A perfect villain.
he got fired, so the fire nation attacked
It was at this point where Dr.Han would turn to a life of crime; becoming the infamous gangster Johnny Gat.
So Dr Han wants control instead of helping? I get it, he got the job to help however, that doesn't change the fact that he wanted to get rid of one of the better doctors there for being "Irrational and unprofessional" and because he couldn't "control his staff"
The fun part is that the actor who plays Doctor Han is actually the person responsible for The Good Doctor getting adapted from the original Korean show.
@@WarGrowlmon18stop repeating your comments... tsk tsk
@@WarGrowlmon18
Going from comment to comment saying the same thing isn't helpful, it's annoying.
@@WarGrowlmon18ok so?
I've heard people say that the second season was anti asian because of Daniel Dae Kim's character. I am trying to understand were the accusations are coming from.
As a medical practitioner I can assure you; even with that much talent hospitals would not hire Shaun in today's world. I am not insulting his talent at all. At the same time he simply can't be hired for obvious reasons. I'm sorry if you feel offended.
Empathy > Sympathy!
you seem to miss, Shaun has empathy, He just follows logic because factual and logical decision making will always be superior to emotional decision making. I guarantee you have seen people mistreat patients because they dont like them, Ive no doubt youve done it as well. Its human. Shaun cant do that, His entire mindset is revolving around saving a life, No matter how much he hates the patient, he will do everything in his power to save him, While some neurotypical doctors will pronounce people dead incorrectly because they dont like the person on the table/stretcher.
Logic > Empathy. Its why humanity was able to progress as fast as it did. Emotions can inspire people to action, good or bad. Whereas logic is a constant long line of action, not requiring you to feel something to save a life. You just save it because life is precious.
Considering nearly all of the doctors I've had to deal with (as a patient) have been neurotypical and caused me more harm than when I went into the hospital in the first place. I disagree completely. Why? Because it's only the neurodivergent doctors I've had who actually listen to the patient because they don't let their personal ego's of thinking they are better than everyone else prevent them actually being a good doctor. You must cause your patients harm by making them feel unsafe in your presence and thinking you are a god who knows everything (aka pill popper). I know I would feel unsafe with you as a doctor. Turn in your medical license because you are likely causing direct harm to patients. Perhaps you should consider learning how to have empathy at all since you clearly have none.
Give him some slack, he was stuck on an island for a few years... No wonder he decided to become firelord smh
Freddie Highmore is a wonderful actor!
1:26 is that the voice actor of odin in the God of War: Ragnarok?
YES SIRRRRR
yes lol
I THOUGHT HIS VOICE WAS FAMILIAR
Yup
In other words Shaun has grown on him just like he did with all the other doctors.
2:03 is that odin?
A supervisor is supposed to help their employees, not control them. That is unacceptable!
Well, when it comes to surgery I'm pretty sure self-control and following instructions is fundamental. You need to take context into consideration.
I am Autistic (classified as mid-functioning, with high capability but notable emotional disturbance and disconnect), and this show angers me.
Shaun isn't as simple as 'a surgeon with autism', he's a medicinal savant with extreme behavior and discipline issues.
Dr. Han was absolutely in the right, because Shaun has no place being in a position where others' lives rely on him. He's self-indulgent, ignorant, impulsive, apathetic, and unreliable. I find myself falling into similar situations, except nobody has to worry about me walking out on them mid-surgery because I'm not putting myself in the position.
Shaun doesn't deserve to be a surgeon, he doesn't deserve to keep his job, and he _especially_ doesn't deserve to keep it at the removal of Dr. Han. Shaun deserves patience, a smaller set of responsibilities, and mandatory behavior coaching sure, but that doesn't mean he can just get his old job back because a superior took pity on him for being autistic. I know Glassman tried professional coaching, and Shaun threw a tantrum, which is exactly the point of him not deserving to be a surgeon. Dr. Han explicitly pointed out that he tried to fire Shaun because he was unstable, unreliable, and impulsive (things you can't be when you're paid to save others' lives regularly), and the response was "He's mot mature enough to get another job, and also we'll miss him :(", as if that's remotely justifiable with stakes as high as the lives of uninvolved innocent patients.
I don’t agree
You being autistic doesn’t mean you’re right…. In fact you’re completely false. Just because Shaun is on the spectrum doesn’t mean he “deserves” to be fired from a job that he LOVES and is good at.. they allow people with anger issues or disorders to be doctors but when autism is announced somehow he’s not capable of being a doctor? Have you actually watched the show to determine that Shaun never killed a patient with his outburst?
I'm also on the spectrum but I'm a very mild case and I fully agree with you. This show is a nice one to watch if your not here for realism, but no hospital would ever hire Shaun irl because he is a walking courtroom with how many lawsuits he would cause.
I would never trust someone this obviously on the spectrum to be my surgeon, because you can't trust even a well adjusted autistic that far on the spectrum not to have a outburst if they are in a high stress environment, It just has way to much risk for them to hurt others or themselves.
I like I said am a very mild case with all verbal communication fine but emotionally I'm hit-or-miss, with a spotty understanding of how to react to other people's emotions and a tendency to spiral into a emotional nosedive of whatever I'm feeling.
A example is once my mom dropped a lit cigarette on the floor partway under her bed, and my first reaction was "fire! Need to pour water on it!" It hadn't did anything yet but I was a screaming, crying, panicking mess after my mom wouldn't let me pour water on it because of our weak flooring.
I then proceeded to physically hurt myself throwing myself under the metal bedframe trying to grab it so it "wouldn't burn the house down" despite the fact it had gone out by this point.
Someone who has Shaun's levels of communication and emotional difficulties is a very big risk in ANY mildly stressing job, let alone one where he is elbows deep in a person's insides sometimes multiple times a day.
It's why I hate Autistic rep in media. It's either Sheldon/ABed/Shaun/House, where they are know it all jerks but because they are almost always right, they get away with the bad behaviour. In real life, us autistic people ae usually way off with a situation.
Lol having
worked with some exceptional, autistic, may I say you forget that everyone accommodates everyone . Shawn is a complex character who has been
accomodated. A character. A lot of very unique persons have been memorable and dependable to their community.
Adults and childern with autisim will occasionally have meltdowns and burnouts . These can be mild or severe .I myself have had some of the more milder ones . Though there have been times were I got agressive .
Have ADHD (seen as the kissing cousin of autism) and I have them too. Had one a few days ago in a supermarket. It wasn't huge, thank goodness. I'd become overwhelmed because a shop assistant was confusing me and didn't answer a simple question. It didn't make sense what she was saying. It triggered a small meltdown
ok so those things do happen but also those things for many people if the people around him know what not to do that wont cause him to get triggered. i know for some people its routine, some people its extreme situations that he doesnt know how to react. shaun didnt like being told no or ignored and learn to work with it in the show. having to deal with those thiings while shauns savant syndome cause him to have the best doctor minds that he could understand quickly. shaun can understand reality as long as he is caused to go haywired.
if u told me you for other people need to learn things not to do when a certain person is invloved but the trade off of the great surgeon minds u could have due to how his mind worked. that is a trade off that any hospital should make. having a higher up refusing to treat him like he should be treated caused many times where he was right even in very rare cases that not a single person in the building would thought of.
ive only watch some of the show but they way he had his mind work is actually a reality for a lot of people who are autistic but its going to be random that they can learn. ive seen some kids on youtube have the most random perfect set of skill but it can be something useless for the most part but it is still impressive and allows him to be able to understand praise because of many of them misunderstand emotions properly without a lot of help
Dr Andrew used Veto power
Looking back (as soneone on the spectrum myself), I don't think Han should've been fired for mistreating Shaun. Andrews should've given Han a chance to resign and leave on good terms. Then Andrews wouldn't have gotten fire. But, when Han transferred Shaun to patholgy, did Han speak to Andrews first before telling pathology to take Shaun in? If Han transferred Shaun without telling Andrews first, that's grounds for Han to be fired, for going behind Andrew's back. The fact Han said if he can't control his staff is basically him saying "Feel free to fire me." I think Han was only there just to collect a paycheck. He needed a job, took the first opening he saw. He kinda went off the deep end transferring Shaun to pathology after Shaun gave a paitent a worse case scenario.
Any doctor could've told that mom the anti depressants were affecting the baby and the parents would still get upset. Instead of trying to help Shaun on how to communicate with patients better he just dumps him somewhere else. While there was no excuse for Shaun's meltdown, the fact Shaun did not stop at trying to get his old job back, was really good. Shaun could've just given up and stayed in pathology. But he stood his ground. Maybe he could've been a little nicer and asking for his old job back. Despite poor communication he could've said Dr. Han, please give me my job back.
Dr. Han is so handsome
He played Jin on "Lost".....such a good actor.
and that right there is a tribunal for wrongful dismissal and a huge pay off for the fired doctor.
As someone who has Aspergers syndrome we are so misunderstood and hated because we perceive things in a different way. In my own job I have difficulty at times connecting with others so I seen as being rude. Sometimes I am too direct but never mean any harm.
I go from being too direct to not direct enough. Something happened just today and even though I would have been pretty damn justified in losing my temper. I didn't.
@@truthseeker9249it’s hard to find the balance isn’t it. I just get to the point where I can’t worry about others’ feelings otherwise I’d never say anything to anyone.
1:23 isn't that the surrey city hall in B.C.?
Wait, are we not supposed to side with Dr.Gigachad here?
No not at all
I think I will side with him. Dr Incoherent Lunatic shouldn't be within 1,000 ft of an operating room.
You can if you want. Life isn't black or white. I can see his point
What did you expect? Just because he is beautiful, doesn't mean he is asshole.
Don't let his stupid face blind you.
Yes! Exceptional actors and one of the best written shows!
The fun part is that the actor who plays Doctor Han is actually the person responsible for The Good Doctor getting adapted from the original Korean show.
@@WarGrowlmon18Johnny Gat
1:04 this goes hard fr
We are all human & make mistakes....forgive & be blessed ....
That damn JAWLINE 😏👌
To have a surgeon who is autistic, despite being a genius and talented surgeon, all that doesn't matter when he can't control his outbursts, emotions, his anger when confronted is a dangerous doctor.
Ok tell me who tf is gonna confront him while surgery is being done.
@l0sts0ul89 _himself._
Imagine he has a really bad day when operating on a patient. He's gonna start boiling on the inside as the day goes and that could lead to his inner turmoil spilling out, harming whatever and whoever it touches.
@@Blurgamer17 you could say that's about ANYONE
@@l0sts0ul89 but it's a more signifcant issue with those on the spectrum, thus it's considered a special need.
Their emotions are often amplified by a fixation trigger. Their impulses and habits are also affected by fixation triggers. Autistic people's fixation triggers are all different, but work in similar ways when active. If you have someone who's trigger focuses on one's wrongdoings or mistakes, frustration builds up at an accelerated rate in comparison to neurotypical people. Meaning the potential for an emotional outburst/meltdown is higher as well, and because of the fixation trigger amplifying what they feel, their brain will send more irrational signals the the body that correspond to whatever emotion they're feeling, making them appear more "animated" with their visual expressions.
Imagine an animated expression of frustration and anger coming out of a surgeon that is operating on you and they start getting violent. The likelihood of that happening from an Autistic person vs. a Neurotypical one is higher, and thus feared more by the general public. This series is just propaganda to dissipate that stigma around Autistic doctors.
@@l0sts0ul89 But it's far more likely to happen to someone who is autistic especially someone who has it as severely as Shaun.
Good luck trying to find a job at another hospital when you have "Emotionally and Psycologically abused a colleague doctor" in your resume.
What made this scene so amazing is knowing he actively tried to get rid of shaun at first and now hes firing a head of department to save shauns job.
I never sat through the entire show but every time i see this clip i just cant believe how much he has changed as a character.
I can see here why COMPASSION IS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS!!!
*Best decision ever by Dr Markus*
Dr Han was the only one who didn't treat Shawn like a big baby, everyone else kept infantalizing him, coddling him, and giving him free passes for being autistic when the show is supposedly preaching about Shawn's disability not defining him.
I think you're wrong. The show has clearly demonstrated what Shaun has added to the team, and how much he's evolved as an autistic man. Requiring him to behave as others is ridiculous when "others" are all kinds of "otherwise" screwed up themselves (without autism to blame).
It's not free passes but what they were supposed to do by the ADA.. Seriously does nobody know how to read anymore?
Claire and Glassman were the only ones who ever really coddled him. Morgan has always been blunt, and straight with Shaun along with Andrews. Park, and Lim know how Shaun is and know when he needs help (coddled) and when to treat him like an equal
So just cuk people with disabilities and I stead of accommodating them treat them like everyone else because that's the fair thing to do. Kk. Hey limpy just walk faster, not going to give you special treatment, don't define yourself by your disability.
100% agree Dr Han utilised Shaun’s skills in a way that it was advantageous to the hospital and the patients. The only problem was that Shaun wanted to be a surgeon and I think that’s where Dr Han screwed up. He should have continued to allow Shaun to be in operating rooms but work in pathology, in this way it’s a compromise and Shaun might have accepted.
Leaders don't "control" people, they lead them.
In a medical setting it’s a bit different
He's saying if he can't have control over his own staff, then he can't work there. As in if he sees that someone is causing an issue, then he needs to be able to fire them. If a surgeon freaks out during a surgery and walks out then he needs to be able to say you can't continue to do this. This is normal in almost any working environment, but especially in a medical one
No it objectively is not. @@nicholasfactor
Yeah, where are those people.
Dr. Han made a genuinely good argument at 2:19 but no the autistic boy is the hero so Dr. Han has to get fired.
He made HALF of a genuinely good argument. Unfortunately, he left out of his reasoning the points that add up to Shaun staying, and that happened because Han couldn't separate his personal feelings from his professional feelings. EVERY professional organization accommodates people's quirks, characteristics, and conditions. How many "normal" managers, despite their foul tempers, and poor leadership, remain on their jobs despite plenty of reasons to dismiss them. Heck, there were reasons to fire Han. He insisted on "controlling" his staff instead of leading them, understanding them, supporting them. It made him a bully and a poor leader.
I remember when dude was the over eager black teen in the background. So happy to see him make it
If you can't handle your stuff, that's a you problem. But no you take the easy way by getting rid of the difficulty
Is The actor that plays Dr. Han that plays the person from Candor in the Insurgent Divergent Movie series?
Yes. He was also in Hawaii 5-0 for awhile
Daniel Dae Kim.
Like Sheldon, they refuse limits and lack an inner editor
When the “Bad” guy is actually right about the main character
He's the bad guy not because he's Right about Shawn but because of how he treats not just Shawn but everyone else.
He blackmails people to get malpractice charges dropped, he intentionally disturbs surgeries that he is not part of to "help" by distracting the head surgeon at the time with stupid questions not about the surgery which could have caused issues, he doesn't correct any of the residents properly (he tells them they made a mistake and instead od going over how to fix it or what they should have done instead he verbally derives them into thinking they shouldn't have tried to begin with)
He's a problem in a lot of ways for the hospital as a whole. Not just Shawn.
@@Khontis The problem is, in every other instance he is clearly the bad guy. With Shaun, he's making the mostly correct decisions (as we can tell by the doctors employed in america right now).
I finished medical school but I didn’t want to do my residency.
Fun fact Dr. Han is the voice actor for Johnny Gat from Saints Row
And Hiroshi Sato in The Legend of Koraa.
And also Rikimaru in Tenchu: Return from Darkness
I have a a feeling that some point in the next season Dr.Han will return as a patient from a car accident. Shaun will be the one who save him since it’s a difficult surgery than the team thought. After the surgery Dr.Han realizes that he made a big mistake of how he treated Shaun and apologizes to him.
How childish lol
@@anodosarcade7355this show has done things like that before lmao
Or on the flipside, same scenario - but Shaun instead has yet another emotional flipout and walks out of the surgery, and Han dies because of it. At which point, OOPSIE! Maybe they shouldn't have let the guy who has repeatedly shown can't communicate, control emotion, or do his basic job duties operate on people whom lives are on the line.
1:30
DUDE! That’s… Odin from GOW ragnarok!
i was looking for a comment on that 😂glad someone noticed