Sandy Tours IDRA Facilities | 9,000 Ton Giga Press
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ก.ค. 2022
- Sandy gets a tour of IDRA's Giga Press assembly facilities in Italy. Thank you to John and Fiore for the wonderful tour and insights into the future of aluminum die casting!
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#idra #diecasting #gigapress - บันเทิง
A big thank you to Sandy Munro and his team for coming to see us and then posting this informative video!
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Thanks for having us!
Brescia caput mundi 😀
What a fantastic place you have with top-notch workmanship.
This was incredibly interesting to watch!
IDRA's spokesperson in this video is top notch. I appreciate how he's able to engage both Sandy _and_ the audience seamlessly. You can tell he's quite comfortable and experienced with both human interaction and being on camera.
That's right but the other Italian is the man who designed it all with his team... proud Italian. Beautiful.
And Sandy is covertly interviewing him for a job. 😆
@@willemhaifetz-chen1588 Who didn't need subtitles. The spokesman is clearly English/Italian.
dude can sell
Agreed. Not just a regular sales person... this man has intimate system knowledge.
That was impressive. Engineering on an absolutely massive scale. Hats off to these guys; they really know their stuff.
In case anyone is interested in the stock, IDRA has been bought by a HK company during the 2008 crisis. Took me some time to find out
The mother company is now LK Tech stock ticker is on HK exchange 0558.
We have no idea of how they share profits with the mother company tho
Sandy and Idra come through under pressure.
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Very very impressive. Consider all the effort and ingenuity. And then compare this to say real estate, or banking, or even coding. Nobody gets their hands dirty there, and it’s really not that goddamn hard. This stuff is cutting edge! These other people making real progress for human civilization, not the pencil pushing parasites.
Yeah, that was a really fascinating video. I kept trying to place John's accent - my best guess would be Scandinavian, educated in England. Looking forward to follow up videos.
I'm so excited to watch this IDRA tour. Such an important company. The Italian people should be really proud of them :) True European innovation
Company is now owned by …you guessed it, 🇨🇳.
I'm sure some flag waving US citizen will find a way to massage its challenged ego and put a US flag sticker on it. ;-)
@@bsl2501 ah, classic
@@mandoleg but still, I‘m so happy this is in italy an flourishing. purpose!
@@bsl2501 They can't get mad and take the Italian factory to China. Italy already has their money.
It's awesome to see Sandy getting nerdy with an engineer. You can see how excited he is about his work. No marketing BS here, just raw engineering nerdiness. I love it!
He is marketing, but knows about the machine.
You can see he is proudly explaining as he goes.
Best way to market anything.
Let's thanks the truckers and logistics workers for their roll in getting these machines to Tesla. It' s team effort. Fascinating report.
I'm guessing most of this stuff would be shipped via boat.
💪4 real ! it's probably 12-24 semi loads here!
Trains are much better.
@@mick0matic Sensitive equipment like this can be hauled on European trains because chain and buffer coupling giving a smoother ride, but not on American ones which are way rougher because of the AAR couplers, they create lots of slack.
I was thinking about that. How amazing is it that men are able to move these machines all the way to various Gigafactories?
Thanks to Tesla for making this tour a reality. Munro couldn’t convince OEMs to build a casting machine even half the size of the GIGAPRESS. IDRA wasn’t even sure if it was possible. Musk asked 5 casting machine companies to build the gigapress. 4 of them said it was impossible and IDRA said, “it might work”. Musk took that as a “Yes”. IDRA believed in their engineers to take the journey with TESLA.
Fun to see Sandy’s mind blown…
Yeah, i remember that quote very well. IDRA took the chance to make history 😎✌👏
Minimum of yearly parts required to make Giga pressing cost effective is 30-50k per year. The other manufacturers aren’t going to be doing the minimum yearly, so it’s TSLA only game for the auto sector.
So even @ the 500K output of TeraAustin, the 50K is done in less than a quarterly.
@@iPhil77 this is a huge “tell”. The other OEMs are concerned about demand otherwise they would make the investment. They have not designed an EV with any real demand.
@@iPhil77 The other OEMs will be getting into this game because the economics makes sense going forward. 50,000 parts? How many millions of vehicles are built in a year? How many hundreds of thousands on shared platforms? Now compare how much floor space and how many other giant stamping machines and welding rigs this replaces, and how much labor and time it could save. Its not even about EVs. Its about general automotive manufacturing.
@@GET2222 More like they are fine with their manufacturing processes and can build millions of cars a year. If they feel the need to lower costs, perhaps they would switch in the future; however, they'll wait for someone else to prove out the new process before adopting it. (just like all the big automakers waited for Tesla to prove there was an EV market)
"Big Auto" EV mfg. delays will be due to battery or semiconductors, not frames / body panel creation.
Italy has superb engineering skills and facilities. I’ve toured a few of their manufacturing factories and their overall designs and the tooling that makes and machines the components are generally second to none.
Some of the best engineers I saw at MSFT were also Italian. It's how they think about design that stands out in my memory.
Holy crap! everything is HUGE at IDRA, unbelievable that this all works as intended. The masses, speed and accuracy is mind blowing!
They just finish putting it together, and test it, then they tear it down ! Sandy must love that bit....
I like how Sandy reiterates three minutes of explanations in one sentence.
"This is a shock absorber, capacitor and on top of that it's also an accelerator".
Loved the openness of the Idra tour team and the way Sandy let them explain without needless interruptions. A class act all round.
Why can't they test with aluminum in Italy, and have to do a dry test? Anyone know? Both kind of glossed over that.
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I found Fiore easier to listen to. He started out by stating what the largest constraint was (customers want shorter injection times), then the implications of that constraint (faster movement, which makes stopping the machine and in particular stopping the hydraulic fluid more difficult), and then what they did to meet that constraint (more pumps and moving the valves to the moving platen itself to minimize the volume and mass of hydraulic fluid past the valves).
Subtitle guy did a good job.
Yeah what are the chain of things that have to change with what may seem like one small change. Really a huge change.
"Customers said 120ms is too slow" To fill a huge die in 120ms seems very fast to me.
"This is a shock absorber, capacitor and on top of that it's also an accelerator". That's another great line.
Congratulations on achieving 300K ! 600K will happen even faster! You've been a credit to manufacturing and the incredible talent to be found in all forms of engineering!
They deserve 3,000,000 subscribers. But real world knowledgeable channels without the click bait b.s. Sadly never really thrive in today's click bait mis information filled, fast food type of mentality based on never ending endless consumerism society. 🤔
Wow, thank you!
@@4literv6 I guarantee 3M still won't be enough because of one word: GREED
Cool stuff!
As a machinist who has made stuff on a much smaller scale over the years, I would of love to see the machines that actually do the "machining" to these huge parts. They must be absolutely massive.
The sheer size is impressive - and the tolerances and timing sequences and the engineering problems to overcome - for a humble electronics dude, this is just incredible...
a how-2 video! like on the discovery channel !! right!
Yes, lets see the machine that makes the Machine; which then makes The MACHINE.
Manufacturing is like a huge Russian nesting doll in reverse.
Sounded like the big stuff was cast not machined, but what do I know.
I used to work with high pressure diecasting machines in the 80's. One of the early projects I was involved in was replacing a worn out (unreplaceable and increasingly unreliable) mechanical timer used to sequence the injection phases. We built a custom controller based on a 6800 microprocessor that enabled the timing of the hydraulic valve actuations. I also assisted in commissioning a used Idra press that they bought. A key skill in the foundry was the metallurgy, the lab had a spectrum analyser to QA the aluminium for the correct alloys. That was also interesting to work on, as callouts were at least 24 hours delayed, I was allowed to try to fix it when it broke down, as there was no production without QA of the materials.
Way to make it all about you Zagabog.. 😄
@@airheart1 Way to oversimplify Airheart1. When you push up against design limits, things break. I saw huge chillers run at 120% capacity, then get 18% Life Span. Owners were puzzled why 4 units failed in 16 months. The other units were on the way to failing given enough run time. There were 6 different points of failure that the manufacturer did not provide for. But they were sold anyway being inadequate to site conditions.
@@Bruh-mo5kk it was just a joke.. see the smiley face? Ahh well.. I thought it was funny at least lol
OffTopic but damn A ludbud here. Awesome
We seem to be living in the most interesting time of engineering and manufacturing in the last several thousand years at least. Thank you Munro and Associates for documenting this history and making it digestible and fascinating to even the regular non-mechanics and engineers like me. These videos will educate and inspire people for years to come
This is a culmination of decades of manufacturing technologies. Fantastic to see. We're really entering a new age of products in terms of advances in material science, electronics and energy storage.
Concorde flew for decades and got grounded. Space shuttles were actually reused.
Electric city buses were normal already over 100 years ago. BEVs set all the speed records even with ICEs in mass production. Low cost production of the stuff we also don't really need is getting better though. Processed "foods", personal vehicles, TV screens, etc.
And thank you Tesla for making all of this relevant in today's world!
@hypnotard69 Yip,... tho Isambard Brunel might have grounds to dispute that claim 😅
I never thought that I would develop such an interest in complex engineering - and while I have an above-average understanding of much of the physics, most of this sort of stuff is way over my head - but Munro Live has become a MUST watch programme for me. Thanks to all involved for going out there and producing world-class mini-documentaries that deserve all the accolades you are getting. Proud, and honoured to be a subscriber.
I'm sure that for most mortals who have even a basic understanding of engineering, their brain cells have melted with the sheer size and complexity of these machines. 🤯🤯🤯
you got to appreciate the companies that make disrupting the market possible. thanks for making this tour possible IDRA and Sandy!
27:58 the real italian speaking italian in the background 🤌🤌
Proud to be 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
As an Electrical Engineer, this was jaw dropping for me.
Thank you Sandy and IDRA. 👍👍🇺🇸
Holy crap, that was amazing and the IDRA hosts were so gracious and knowledgeable. I'm not sure if they understood the gravitas of Sandy's praise though. Thanks for sharing Team Munro!
AND CONGRATULATIONS 🎉 🍻🥂🥃TO MONROE AND ALL YOUR ASSOCIATES FOR HITTING 302,000 subs and I am VERY THANKFUL TO BE ONE OF THEM 🙋♂️
Idra is from my town in Italy: really proud of this Italian excellence
Grande gnaro!!
Mind blowing - tons of steel and liquid metal accelerating and decelerating in sub-second time-frames. And doing this again and again, 24-7!
Well done Idra. You have earned the right to own the Giga-press name.
The audience Munro & Associates commands now is basically a stadium of people. Thanks for bringing this to the masses and making the information accessible for the curious. There is so much insight and value being “a fly on the wall” watching M&A.
Amazing! As a youth in the '70 and living in Milano, I often passed IDRA on the motorway. I was into plastics, but the injection processes are similar! Compliments to Italian genius!
The machine that makes the machine that makes the machine.
Cool to see Sandy overcome language barriers and communicate through the universal language of engineering.
They were all speaking English
Mind blowing. Making real engineering COOL.
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373K subscribers BRAVO!!! Well deserved...
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I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO FOR SOOOO LONG!!! THANK YOU, SANDY!!!
You are welcome!
Thanks Sandy for the amazing tour and CONGRATS to 302,000 Subs!!!
Wow, so massive.
What a great tour. Thanks for posting!
I love that guy John. You can tell he super passionate about the possibilities here. He knows his machines.
Incredible machines! I really appreciate being able to see and hear the discussion about how they work and are made.
This is just amazing how humans can think this stuff up at such an immense scale! Wow.. truly amazing engineering. Viva Italia!
Excellent video.
They are speaking my language, having worked for Husky injection molding for 23 years.
Italian pride in engineering and craftsmanship. I bet they feed their employees well too! 😁
Congratulations to Munro and all associates…. On your 300,000 mile stones….. looking forward to 1million viewers in the next 5 years…. Been watching Munro Live from the beginning…. Keep up with the great work!!
Wow, things like this wil change our world 😊
You can see the gears turning in Sandy's head as he stares intently and absorbing everything in sight! I know the feeling.
Italy has very beautiful machinery suppliers and manufacturers. It is good to see that Idra is taking advantage of that.
Munro has opened a whole new world for me. Never before did I care about this kind of machining until I discovered Tesla and Munro. I am enjoying this learning journey immensely. My background is elec. eng. in the medical imaging field, very far removed from a 9000 ton Gigapress! Great work Sandy and associates.
A whole new world
A new fantastic point of view
No one to tell us, "No"
Or where to go
Or say we're only dreaming
A whole new world
100% !!!
@@MunroLive never did I think an Aladdin song lyric would be correlated to engineering so well. Hilarious and ingenious.
Incredible engineering and a great showcase for Italian design. Congratulations.
I am thoroughly impressed by the sheer size and precision of those machines.
Hydraulic engineering heaven. Lots of manifold system and cartridge valves.
There is a lot of flow going on. 🤩
Loved how Sandy patted the engineer on the back and told him well done. The engineer really appreciated the appreciation 👍
What a great video. Would love to do another interview with Sandy. Last one was AMAZING.
Fascinating Interview Sandy👏👏
Sandy,
Killer tour - learned a bunch! 🙂
It seems like fate that Tesla and IDRA are working together and that IDRA named their massive presses the "Giga-press" just as Tesla named their massive factories "giga-factories". We are witnessing the marriage of the auto revolution of EVs with the manufacturing revolution of high-volume mega-casting. People gett hyped about 3D printing, but this is just as significant in many ways. Henry Ford greatly improved the manufacturing of automobiles with the assembly line, now Elon is once again improving the manufacturing of automobiles by using IDRA's presses. It's really amazing what IDRA has accomplished here.
Well said! 👍🏻
Amazing that Ford without the machine's, software automation and robot's of today's factories. Somehow between 1922&23 produced and sold over 3,300,000+model t in just the U.S. what a mean feat of raw human engineering and manufacturing prowess. 😎
@@4literv6 Impressive even by today's standards.
Tesla has absolutely nothing to do with the naming. They were using that branding before tesla ever starting marketing it
@@mattbrew11 Yeah, Elon wanted it to be called the alien dreadnought, the public had other ideas and instantly dubbed it the Gigafactory after IDRA.
@@companyman7128 no. They are unrelated. I bet you think elon invented Gigabyte too
Holy Macaroni!!! Having worked around machinery of this size, I can appreciate what is at stake when designing and testing. The amount of mass and time cycles is absolutely awesome. Just thinking about those huge steel shafts being used as a spring gives one pause. Great tour!!
Kinda reminded me of battleship engineering or large scale ship building tbh. Amazing a machine like this makes a single piece of a car. 😎
I was in Verona during this time, I should have went. IDRA is amazing. Italy is a top manufacturer of everything related to fluids.
Really good in depth tour, thanks to Sandy and IDRA Group
300k!!! Thank you Sandy and team!
enjoyed every second of this video. I am super impressed. IDRA can be very, very proud of themselves. Thanks for helping Tesla to become better every day. Tesla with, amongst other innovations, IDRA rules the house. The rest pays rent.
That's what you call a factory.
Thanks for a very interesting tour. A big thanks to IDRA.
You just got a new subscriber.
Thanks for the sub!
Thank you Sandy.
Fascinating. I too started off life as a tool maker (for Tecalemit) and making moulds was an art, it's now a science and it's fascinating how we have progressed in the last 50-60 years. My first lathe, as an apprentice had 3.5 turns of backlash on the feed handle and the bed had wear in the bed-ways, now look at the precision we can achieve
Most of it was way over my head- but still very interesting and eye-opening. I knew the Giga-Presses were large- but I had no idea of the size of the 9000 Ton machine. Impressive! It looks like it could die-cast our entire house in one 200ms burst of molten aluminum... Thanks, Sandy and Company for this amazing video!
"Absolutely Excellent Tour"
This is how the world is built folks. Big tools, big factories, big engineering, big brains.
Sandy and the munro guys congratulations! Keep up the good work, very interesting stuf as always, thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks Sandy for letting us know better the engineering behind GigaPresses. It’s truly fascinating and make me so proud of italian entrepreneurship 🇮🇹
I know people keep saying this on this channel, but i just can't believe I'm watchinig something like this for free
you guys are absolutely amazing
Absolutely fantastic to watch!!! We are in a whole new era of youtubing with this stamping explaned and the 4680 cell by Gordon. Amazing!!!
Thanks so much Sandy to share the Italian’s expertise in machinery around the world. I’m very proud of it. John is a super host
If I’m not mistaken this 9 ton press is headed for giga Austin and will one day be pumping out cyber castings. Really quite an amazing machine. It’s great to see Tesla supporting Italian heavy industry.
It already arrived early this year I believe.
Mamma Mia. Next Year's IDRA Annual Event should be Awesome. Thanks for Sharing
Sandy evaluating Idra is a great view
I've heard Taurus, the gun maker I believe in Brazil, use a type of molten metal injection. But using steel or steel alloys. It works very similar to plastic mold injection. All these technologies, plus 3D metal printing is changing our manufacturing paradigm. I love this channel Munro Rocks!
Some do. Henry Rifle in Wisconsin uses them for the smaller parts, Ive seen that operation personally.
Can be either hot-chamber or cold-chamber die-cast
So happy you guys are part of this community!!
Sandy Munro in Italia! Thank you ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Sandy looked over his head, IDRA is next level!
I just love that my foundry industry is getting some love! I've probably been to the shop that is making all those massive steel castings, Sheffield? Voestalpine? Sande Stahlguss? In Italy perhaps?
That was impressive! Thanks for sharing the tour with us!
Glad you enjoyed it!
You can see the excitement on idra’s faces. This is cool!
Very impressive Could watch stuff like this all day.
Engineering porn, love it. The Northern Italy fabricator network has clearly withstood the test of time, too. Thanks for this glimpse.
It's rellay cool to learn about the massive upgrades IDRA had to come up with to meet Tesla's cycle time requirements. Great video!
You mean
"The customer"? 😉
@@rogerstarkey5390 Yeah, but their other customers were happy with whatever they could get off the shelf; they aren't pushing the envelope on manufacturer like Tesla is. Most of the companies Tesla contacted said this was impossible to do.
It's great to see the happy and positive reaction from the person giving the lecture when he (or she) recognises that the audience actually understands what is being taught.
It's GIGA AWESOME
Best video on TH-cam this year.
Just wow… thank u for bringing this engineering marvel to us
Truely a video for engineers. Loved hearing about the efficiency of their large presses
Thanks for your presentation!!!!!!
Never miss them.
This VLOG deserves multiple views. Casting at this level is the future of heavy equipment manufacturing. Of course it's Tesla leading the way. .Excellent disruptors they are ...
Hello Sandy, Thank you and your team for some amazing videos.
Kind of mind-blowing to be honest. after seeing the entire seating arrangement hooked to the battery pack of a Tesla and assembled as a single unit... this is just insane. Talk about engineering innovations.
Nothing mind blowing to see here! That structural battery like Corey said in Munro live is a total disaster with not reusability/repair in mind what a joke!!
Ahhhhh! Tickle me behind the ear and call me Betsy Milord! That was just lovely. Thank you.
Whenever I talk to anyone about Tesla or EV manufacturing in general, I tell them to check out your channel and to hit the Subscribe button. I grew up in Detroit during the 60s and 70s, surrounded by so many people who worked in the automotive industry during that time and for the past 45 years many friends of mine went into the automotive industry in one capacity or another. As a result, I very much enjoy and appreciate the videos you produce.
Thankyou!
All the other companies said "No" and IDRA said... "Maybe". Glad they weren't afraid to literally break the mold and do something else.
Thank You Sandy for taking us directly to the source! Now quit working to go back to vacation.
Which other companies said no" do you have any proof!? Wtf!!!
@@carholic-sz3qv Elon said so
@@caballus2005 lol…. You blindly believe everything he said right!? Why is it that when he talk about his experiences with ford he always talk about the 80’s as if we were still at that period!?
@@carholic-sz3qv Why would he lie about it? Anyways that's what he said, it's up to you to believe him or not.
This is kind of “out of my wheelhouse”, but I persevered and really learned a lot about how the manufacturing processes have advanced. It’s just amazing to see the scale and capabilities of these IRDA Presses - thanks to Sandy for bringing us such interesting content and thanks to Fiore and John for taking the time to educate us! As a follow-on (kind of out of scope for this particular video), it would be interesting to hear about supply chain challenges that IRDA is facing. Or, are they operating in less impacted areas?
It’s basically European engineering from the mold castings to electronics, valves……. I’m sure a lot of it comes from Germany via train too.
What an absolutely brilliant show thankyou so much , the best I've seen anywhere on TH-cam.
Riding the S curve of Munro subscribers. Congrats!
I could cry.
When we think of Italy, many think of political “keystone-cop” type chaos and instability … but we should think of engineering excellence and superb professionalism.
Congrats Sandy, Corey and team! Great job and you deserve every single sub and more! Look forward to the next 600k and it will come, keep producing great quality stuff…
MUNRO and Associates is one of the BEST advertising that TESLA could ask for. And all honest and factual info from Sandy Munco !
Well done Sandy! A big thanks....