Glad you enjoyed the bike David. It’s safe to say Andy and his team at Spoons customs absolutely smashed it. It was a labour of love built on the memories of an old evo with new and leftover parts from my tt bike. It started with my exact geo fit after a bike fit and went from there. I’m just finishing the build off with the handlebar setup, including the integrated dust cap, which lines the handlebars with the head tube perfectly. It’s not the lightest bike I’ve had, but at 88kg (body mass needed for work) I’m never going to be the fastest up hill. That said, this bike smashes it downhill, with the same times to Michał Kwiatkowski down some decents in Mallorca, I’ve been loving it. Once I’m recovered from surgery I’m sure it’ll fly! I know some have mentioned about the sram/Shimano mix. I’ve always found shimano shifts the best, but the rotors delaminate and warp, so I use sram. Also I’ve snapped two Shimano chainsets so will never use Shimano chainsets again, plus the power meters read badly out. The chainset will likely be sanded down to remove the sram logo to sedate people who can’t take Frankenstein setups - which is stupid as you should use the best parts you can get/have, not caring about brands. If anyone wants a steel/alu/carbon custom frame, speak to Andy, he knows his stuff and will leave you with a smile. You will also be the envy of your mates, I can’t work out which is the best bit 🤣
Stainless steel does ride a little different from regular steel - maybe it is just the thinner tubes but it rides "lighter" and stiffer but has a similar comfort. Beautiful bike and looks really nice with the deep wheels.
I like that very much. Am a fan of the older frame aesthetic. I’m not a professional cyclist, so I really don’t care about the tiny gains each iteration of the big brand bikes make. Also, gold chains are very, very fast.
@@royanderson3478 Ahh makes more sense! Use raw materials from whereever. I thought at first they were just designing them in the UK and then getting the frame manufactured in Italy.
@@Stuey001 interesting, just visited their website and from it they say: We source parts and steel locally. From people we trust. Just down the road form our workshop. So either their workshop is in Italy or they are being rather obscure with where they source their materials, build their frames and have their workshops. Also on their site they say: The builders we work with have decades of experience working in Steel and know it inside out. We create amazing bikes and frames, by hand and machine, one at a time. So they work with builders and create frames by hand and machine, again not 100% clear. Which parts are being handbuilt and which parts machine built.
@@DS-um9hi it says in the next paragraph on the website that they source steel from Columbus tubi in Italy. And they are built in italy. Pretty transparent 🤷♂️
Awesome bike, only thing I dont like is the way the handlebar doesnt seem to fit to the frame, it sticks out too far in the back in my opinion. Still great, would ride it any chance I get!
Yes. Steerer tube needs cutting, stem angle is off & bars rolled too far forward. No doubt owner is still experimenting with the geometry, hence the dodgy angles.
I’m using SRAM rotors on my DA calipers and prefer them to the stock DA or even XTR rotors. Have never had any deformation or rubbing after doing long steep descents.
I ride a custom stainless road bike surrounded with carbon bits, eTap and 25c carbon tubulars... size 53 is only 16 pound with pedals. Light, lively and will last longer than I will. Made by Megan of Moth Attack, top notch.
Disc brake rotors are interchangeable between brands. Using Shimano rotors with SRAM calipers is super common. I think the reason it's less common to see SRAM rotors with Shimano calipers is because SRAM rotors usually cost more when bought standalone.
@@ciw8688 both are good in use, but for a bike used in winter Shimano need careful cleaning or the aluminium core corrodes and you get pulsing initially and it could delaminate. I've got hope disks on my nice bike, better than either? Dunno but they are pretty!
Wow nice a sexy bike to be honest! I have never ridden a steel bike and I heard they ride fantastic. It is amazing the craftsmanship on these type of bikes. 😊
Hey, I watch your channel a lot; just wanted to draw your attention to the fact that you can test and review any bike of your viewers and it’ll be fun and exciting to watch. You -not only you but other bike reviewers on TH-cam too- often mention that you can’t get your hands on this or that bike as the manufacturer isn’t that interested in lending them; however you have many followers now who’d be happy for you to test their bike together with an ever changing combination of kit they’ve equipped them with (a bonus) I mean I would give you my 2022 giant tcr advanced pro 1 (if i was reasonably close) which, despite being devoid of any new tech, is still an amazing bike, especially for what it cost. Yeah, any bike; common bikes, good value bikes or not so good (for you to decide) etc. Looking for a review of a new propel or tcr advanced pro zero for instance but not much out there.
thought I included the bit about the saddle in the ride section? It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, for a short ride at least. Not sure I'd want to do 100km on it, but I must add I'm not an SLR fan
Our custom frames start at £1895. There’s a lot of work in this one, and the materials (XCR) are pretty expensive so XCR frames like this one start at £4k.
Our stainless (XCR) frames start from 4k. That’s with custom fit and finishing, Chris King bearing, fork, frame hardware and custom paint in one colour and one colour contrast.
I've recently began using SRAM rotors on my road bike with an AXS groupset, before that I would use whatever was the best combo of light/cheap. I never had any issues, always thought rotors were interchangeable. I also like how you refer to Reynolds 853 as "regular steel" 😁😁
We design and build everything here, but I started the company on the French Italian border, and we fabricate all the frames with a long standing (incredible) partner in Vincenza
@@jimhizeyou’d have to throw A LOT of money at components to save a full kilo. And we don’t recommend chasing weight over durability. But low sevens is achievable. But as you say, its pretty light anyway.
@@SpoonCustoms I said the opposite - that it’s pretty heavy despite being built with light components. I guess you could go for THM, Darimo, etc, but at that point it seems strange to me to start with a relatively heavy frame and try to get the weight down. Anyway, all I’m saying is I’m surprised the video describes a bike 1.4kg over the UCI limit as being light. That’s all.
@@jimhize pro-tour bikes often weigh in at 500g+ over the UCI weight limit, 7.5kg+ isn't uncommon and they're not going slower on those. A Super Six hi Mod with Disc and Di2 last year was just shy of 8kg, that's not a heavy bike either, and doesn't feel it. I think the UCI weight limit is touted as a benchmark for a low weight too often, when it's quite frequently not that relevant. This bike uses a comparatively heavy frame for sure but the material has benefits that outweigh the penalty; in fit, personalisation and ride feel. Drop the classified system out of this bike, and it comes comfortably into range of most pro-tour bike weights, without any of the gram chasing parts that might empty your wallet also. Aethos, SL8, new Super Six, all bring that UCI weight limit back into reach this year, the grams arms race is back on clearly, but I'd still argue a 7.5kg is light and most people (amateur or pro) don't benefit much from using the UCI weight limit to benchmark a good, reliable high performance bike.
I started out in France and Italy - living in montgenevre, and we still build almost all our work with Italian workshops. We’re based in Surrey these days for fitting, design and finishing.
A lot of cool ideas and clearly thought out, but it's a bit too much of an 'look what money can buy / over the top' with that deda bar-stem combo not matching well with the rest of the bike. A regular stem + handlebar (Enve?) would probably look a lot better.
Any suggestions for an endurance road bike below £5k. There’s just so many. I was looking at the Handsling CEXevo gravel but specking it to a road version. I currently ride a ribble cgr al. I’m 18stone and 6ft 3.
@@Stevenafoe that was the first one I looked at 😃. Great bike. Great spec for the cash. I’m my size (XL) they say “coming soon”. That includes the grail and the endurace. I messaged and that can pretty much mean august this year or next. 😳. I looked at the grizl but that looks like an out and out gravel bike. Thanks for the input though. Very much appreciated. 🫶🏻
@@BryanSp you are welcome. One of the n+1 bikes is a 2018 alu canyon endurace size l. Has now over 25k kms done. Only thing changed so far is chains and rear/front cogs (1x). It was cheap at the time (1250eur). It is more endurance than race, so if you care about more speed it isn’t the right one. It’s also relatively heavy, with pedals, cages, fat tyres (340gr each) close to 9kg. It’s now my winter/bad weather bike, thus the heavy wheels/tyres/inners. No doubt the carbon one with lighter wheels will loose lots of that weight. Hope you’ll succeed in finding a good bike!
Nice to see a review of a custom bike. But as usual not for the common people. Too pricy. Please try something in reach for us mere mortals. But nice to see a steel bike for once.
I highly doubt you’ll get the weight to 7kg as you said. It already has a lot of low weight parts like the saddle and bar/stem combo. You still need pedals in the end. Maybe a nice new vid to make? How to get from 8.2 kg to 7.0 kg (with pedals ofcourse)? And how much it’s will cost.
@@mikeyw7891 its your bike isn’t it? I ofcourse don’t have access to a scale and your bike; but still i don’t believe it. David says it’s 8.2kg without pedals. You seem to have look carbon pedals which are about 190 grams. So, you’ll have to loose about 1.5kg to get it below 7.0 as you claim. I never seen 1000grams climbing wheels. Maybe about 1200 grams is as low mortals would be able to get. You have a c59 saddle , low weigh bottle cages, low weight pedals all weight weenie components. Nothing to gain there; the only thing which is hard to estimate are the wheels with this rear hub in it. If it was two by , those deep wheels wouldn’t weigh more than 1500grams with normal hubs. But it’s one by and the special hub in the back which weight i don’t know. I am sure it’s not 1000 grams or so…. So; i think you and david exaggerate quite a bit. I think you’ll might get it just below 8kg. 400/500 grams weight gain on light weight climber wheels and swap from hub gears to normal gears might just do that. How you’ll gain another 1000grams ? But like i said: maybe a nice new vid to make? Don’t mind you or david prove me wrong and getting that bike from approx 8.4kg to below 7.0 kg. And ofcourse how much that will cost..
Hi mate, look at twisted wheels or rides of Japan. They have 850g disk wheels from memory. The Duracell cassettes lighter. Power hub adds quite a bit of weight (rear wheels over 1.8g from memory). So yes that frames easy to put sub 7kg. I don’t as I’m over 85kg. Even comparing my bike to rides of Japan, his frames 1.4kg from memory and weights a total of 6.5, twisted wheels has an at his at low 5kgs. Also many of the parts were from a previous build. Also, David’s weights with the titanium speed play pedals. If I copied rides of Japan build exactly, the total build would be about 6.8, less with the wheels twisted wheels uses. All good tho, it rides like a beast
Cheers mate 😊, Amazing machine and what an opportunity to ride this as well 👍👋. Very good one as usual, stay safe and have a good one cheers from Denmark 👋☺️
Looks great! Big point made about it being a British bike brand but then say it was made in Italy? Then frothing it was a one by system but it has a classified hub. With the cassette and the hub is that one by? I know you have your preferences and want to make then sound amazing but you really need to think through some of the stuff you say.
It is 1x up front. With classified system bringing the benefits of 2x in terms of gear range. We fit, design and build everything in the UK. David refers to us as the ‘frame builder’ in the video, which is flattering to hear, but I’ve never called myself that although I have made the odd frame from time to time. almost every frame we’ve made for a customer over the years is fabricated by our long standing team in Vincenza, not too far from our first workshop in Montgenevre. I used to build them myself at that workshop in the mountains, but we moved everything to Surrey some years back now, but we do still head back there for testing and development and treat it a little like our second home. I spend as much time out there as the order book allows basically and we do arrange pick ups there if customers want to ride them in their ‘original’ home with us.
@@SpoonCustoms Thanks for your reply and some history of your brand. I checked out your website and your bikes look very nice. My comments are not about you, its about the information conveyed. Fair enough about being a British brand but being built in Italy. Your explanation is far better. But on the one by statement that's not right, the bike has two locations that it can change the gear ratio hence it is not one by.
Even without Mike’s back trauma, we usually leave 10/20mm for adjustment after first few rides, then invite all customers back to review the fit before we cut things we can’t undo. Generally though, most people just come back to have the excess removed.
Good video David, but the elephant in the room is asiing how much did this bespoke gem cost Mike? Probably the wrong side of £10k ++?? Keep up the quality of your videos, always appreciated, and a viewers rides element wiuld be great to see!🙂🙂🙂
Glad you enjoyed the bike David. It’s safe to say Andy and his team at Spoons customs absolutely smashed it. It was a labour of love built on the memories of an old evo with new and leftover parts from my tt bike. It started with my exact geo fit after a bike fit and went from there.
I’m just finishing the build off with the handlebar setup, including the integrated dust cap, which lines the handlebars with the head tube perfectly. It’s not the lightest bike I’ve had, but at 88kg (body mass needed for work) I’m never going to be the fastest up hill. That said, this bike smashes it downhill, with the same times to Michał Kwiatkowski down some decents in Mallorca, I’ve been loving it. Once I’m recovered from surgery I’m sure it’ll fly!
I know some have mentioned about the sram/Shimano mix. I’ve always found shimano shifts the best, but the rotors delaminate and warp, so I use sram. Also I’ve snapped two Shimano chainsets so will never use Shimano chainsets again, plus the power meters read badly out. The chainset will likely be sanded down to remove the sram logo to sedate people who can’t take Frankenstein setups - which is stupid as you should use the best parts you can get/have, not caring about brands.
If anyone wants a steel/alu/carbon custom frame, speak to Andy, he knows his stuff and will leave you with a smile. You will also be the envy of your mates, I can’t work out which is the best bit 🤣
Big thanks to Mike. Very cool of you to make this happen. 👏
Came to the comments to say this. Glad it was already said! Still, thanks both Mike and David! :)
Stainless steel does ride a little different from regular steel - maybe it is just the thinner tubes but it rides "lighter" and stiffer but has a similar comfort. Beautiful bike and looks really nice with the deep wheels.
Beautiful bike, the gold chain works with the logo nicely. Classic looking with modern components, awesome result
I like that very much. Am a fan of the older frame aesthetic. I’m not a professional cyclist, so I really don’t care about the tiny gains each iteration of the big brand bikes make. Also, gold chains are very, very fast.
1:13 the frame is made by Spoon Custom in the UK, 2:21 the frame is handbuilt in Italy. So which is it?
@@royanderson3478 Ahh makes more sense! Use raw materials from whereever. I thought at first they were just designing them in the UK and then getting the frame manufactured in Italy.
I have a spoon customs bike. The frames are designed by the company owner in UK, handbuilt in Italy and then finished and painted in UK
@@Stuey001 interesting, just visited their website and from it they say:
We source parts and steel locally. From people we trust.
Just down the road form our workshop.
So either their workshop is in Italy or they are being rather obscure with where they source their materials, build their frames and have their workshops.
Also on their site they say:
The builders we work with have decades of experience working in Steel and know it inside out. We create amazing bikes and frames, by hand and machine, one at a time.
So they work with builders and create frames by hand and machine, again not 100% clear. Which parts are being handbuilt and which parts machine built.
@@DS-um9hi it says in the next paragraph on the website that they source steel from Columbus tubi in Italy. And they are built in italy. Pretty transparent 🤷♂️
@@Stuey001 so they have their workshop in Italy? I get it now.
Awesome bike, only thing I dont like is the way the handlebar doesnt seem to fit to the frame, it sticks out too far in the back in my opinion. Still great, would ride it any chance I get!
Yes. Steerer tube needs cutting, stem angle is off & bars rolled too far forward. No doubt owner is still experimenting with the geometry, hence the dodgy angles.
Super cool build. Love it.
Looks stunning !
That is one of the best looking bikes I have ever seen
Agree 100% sad is disc brake
Insane build!!
Lovely frame beautiful welds (Cannondale take note )
Welding steel is very different than aluminum. But yeah cannondale has gone into the toilet with their aluminum bikes aethetics
@@enterpriseone6213 🥵
How did you find the saddle?😅
Geometry looks similar to a CAAD12 - what do you think?
All day cannondale geometry. especially the top tube angle and rear triangle.
Lovely lot at Spoon too - great bike
Thanks Kevin!
I’m using SRAM rotors on my DA calipers and prefer them to the stock DA or even XTR rotors. Have never had any deformation or rubbing after doing long steep descents.
This is something that i want with some custom build wheels and some nice parts
Love seeing a classic style Stainless Steel Frame compared to a Titanium Frame
I ride a custom stainless road bike surrounded with carbon bits, eTap and 25c carbon tubulars... size 53 is only 16 pound with pedals. Light, lively and will last longer than I will. Made by Megan of Moth Attack, top notch.
Disc brake rotors are interchangeable between brands. Using Shimano rotors with SRAM calipers is super common. I think the reason it's less common to see SRAM rotors with Shimano calipers is because SRAM rotors usually cost more when bought standalone.
Yup, I chucked scram disks on my partner's bike when I couldn't get Shimano in lockdown. They don't corrode like the Shimano ones, like em.
@@hectorkidds9840 which disc do u think is better between the two?
@@ciw8688 both are good in use, but for a bike used in winter Shimano need careful cleaning or the aluminium core corrodes and you get pulsing initially and it could delaminate. I've got hope disks on my nice bike, better than either? Dunno but they are pretty!
@@hectorkidds9840 there is no winter in my country lol, but very high humidity. Would your advise still works?
@@ciw8688 it is salt on the winter roads that causes trouble in the UK, both would probably be fine in a place without sub zero temperatures
Wow nice a sexy bike to be honest! I have never ridden a steel bike and I heard they ride fantastic. It is amazing the craftsmanship on these type of bikes. 😊
Hey, I watch your channel a lot; just wanted to draw your attention to the fact that you can test and review any bike of your viewers and it’ll be fun and exciting to watch.
You -not only you but other bike reviewers on TH-cam too- often mention that you can’t get your hands on this or that bike as the manufacturer isn’t that interested in lending them; however you have many followers now who’d be happy for you to test their bike together with an ever changing combination of kit they’ve equipped them with (a bonus)
I mean I would give you my 2022 giant tcr advanced pro 1 (if i was reasonably close) which, despite being devoid of any new tech, is still an amazing bike, especially for what it cost.
Yeah, any bike; common bikes, good value bikes or not so good (for you to decide) etc.
Looking for a review of a new propel or tcr advanced pro zero for instance but not much out there.
Propel you say, watch this space...
Why are we still using chain?
Bike stand in the link is different than in the video
How about the saddle, is it comfortable?
Right, he mentioned the saddle, as if it might not be comfortable, but then promptly forgot about it. Maybe that fact says it all.
I think it belongs to your bottom. If it fits, it fits. The same like every other saddle... everyone is different.
thought I included the bit about the saddle in the ride section? It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, for a short ride at least. Not sure I'd want to do 100km on it, but I must add I'm not an SLR fan
Is there a circa price?
Our custom frames start at £1895. There’s a lot of work in this one, and the materials (XCR) are pretty expensive so XCR frames like this one start at £4k.
How much does it cost?
Our stainless (XCR) frames start from 4k. That’s with custom fit and finishing, Chris King bearing, fork, frame hardware and custom paint in one colour and one colour contrast.
Beautiful classic frame geometry married with modern tech. I want one. 😍
You and me both!
I've recently began using SRAM rotors on my road bike with an AXS groupset, before that I would use whatever was the best combo of light/cheap. I never had any issues, always thought rotors were interchangeable. I also like how you refer to Reynolds 853 as "regular steel" 😁😁
Agreed, I'd hardly call 853 regular steel! 😄
That stem/handlebar is a mostrosity. Would look a lot nicer with a standard set up
It’ll be interstated once the deda dust caps on
Andy Carr me old mucker, you are an artist. When my ship comes in mate.
Geezus, those tube shapes and welds are sexy.
pretty nice, but the cockpit looks odd...
Wow, what a beautiful bike
Thanks to Mike and a great bike really interesting
Real, really lovely bike.
You say it's a UK frame builder but the frame is made in Italy? How does that work?
We design and build everything here, but I started the company on the French Italian border, and we fabricate all the frames with a long standing (incredible) partner in Vincenza
The simplicity of 1X is hardly an argument when used with a Classified hub.
That’s a good looking frame
Beautiful!
How was the saddle ?
It wasn't that bad actually, okay for a short ride but I wouldn't want to do a few hours on it personally
@@davidarthur Sounds like almost every bike saddle I’ve tried. Although a bit of padding sometimes helps.
That’s a great looking bike 👍😊
What an amazing bike
Absolutely beautiful
So cool~ I live in Korea.. How can I buy this cool bike frame??
Amazon?? or Aliexpress ??
We can ship worldwide. We’d love to see one on the road in Korea!
Nice bike but 8.2kg without pedals doesn’t sound light to me.
As David picked up we can build them in the low 7’s depending on your spec and preferences
@@SpoonCustoms it’s already built with pretty light components. Where’s there 1kg to lose?
@@jimhizeyou’d have to throw A LOT of money at components to save a full kilo. And we don’t recommend chasing weight over durability. But low sevens is achievable. But as you say, its pretty light anyway.
@@SpoonCustoms I said the opposite - that it’s pretty heavy despite being built with light components. I guess you could go for THM, Darimo, etc, but at that point it seems strange to me to start with a relatively heavy frame and try to get the weight down.
Anyway, all I’m saying is I’m surprised the video describes a bike 1.4kg over the UCI limit as being light. That’s all.
@@jimhize pro-tour bikes often weigh in at 500g+ over the UCI weight limit, 7.5kg+ isn't uncommon and they're not going slower on those. A Super Six hi Mod with Disc and Di2 last year was just shy of 8kg, that's not a heavy bike either, and doesn't feel it. I think the UCI weight limit is touted as a benchmark for a low weight too often, when it's quite frequently not that relevant. This bike uses a comparatively heavy frame for sure but the material has benefits that outweigh the penalty; in fit, personalisation and ride feel. Drop the classified system out of this bike, and it comes comfortably into range of most pro-tour bike weights, without any of the gram chasing parts that might empty your wallet also. Aethos, SL8, new Super Six, all bring that UCI weight limit back into reach this year, the grams arms race is back on clearly, but I'd still argue a 7.5kg is light and most people (amateur or pro) don't benefit much from using the UCI weight limit to benchmark a good, reliable high performance bike.
I'm confused. Hand made in Italy by a British frame builder?
I started out in France and Italy - living in montgenevre, and we still build almost all our work with Italian workshops. We’re based in Surrey these days for fitting, design and finishing.
A lot of cool ideas and clearly thought out, but it's a bit too much of an 'look what money can buy / over the top' with that deda bar-stem combo not matching well with the rest of the bike. A regular stem + handlebar (Enve?) would probably look a lot better.
I love it 😮
Beautiful.
Any suggestions for an endurance road bike below £5k. There’s just so many. I was looking at the Handsling CEXevo gravel but specking it to a road version. I currently ride a ribble cgr al. I’m 18stone and 6ft 3.
Canyon endurace?
@@Stevenafoe that was the first one I looked at 😃. Great bike. Great spec for the cash. I’m my size (XL) they say “coming soon”. That includes the grail and the endurace. I messaged and that can pretty much mean august this year or next. 😳. I looked at the grizl but that looks like an out and out gravel bike. Thanks for the input though. Very much appreciated. 🫶🏻
@@BryanSp you are welcome. One of the n+1 bikes is a 2018 alu canyon endurace size l. Has now over 25k kms done. Only thing changed so far is chains and rear/front cogs (1x). It was cheap at the time (1250eur). It is more endurance than race, so if you care about more speed it isn’t the right one. It’s also relatively heavy, with pedals, cages, fat tyres (340gr each) close to 9kg. It’s now my winter/bad weather bike, thus the heavy wheels/tyres/inners. No doubt the carbon one with lighter wheels will loose lots of that weight. Hope you’ll succeed in finding a good bike!
@@Stevenafoe cheers buddy. All the info is very much appreciated 👍🏻
when you sacrifice your ass for a few grams because you bought a 1890 material bike
You’re welcome to come in and give one a go. Steel alloys have come along way since those bikes were made of roll cage steel
Its overall so pretty but that chainring is not for me.
Nice to see a review of a custom bike. But as usual not for the common people. Too pricy. Please try something in reach for us mere mortals. But nice to see a steel bike for once.
The bike is very nice, but that mixture of Sram and Shimano I can't finish seeing it...... EGURREEEEE
I highly doubt you’ll get the weight to 7kg as you said. It already has a lot of low weight parts like the saddle and bar/stem combo. You still need pedals in the end. Maybe a nice new vid to make? How to get from 8.2 kg to 7.0 kg (with pedals ofcourse)? And how much it’s will cost.
Just changing the wheelset to a clincher 1000g climber set would drop it below 7kg
@@mikeyw7891 its your bike isn’t it? I ofcourse don’t have access to a scale and your bike; but still i don’t believe it. David says it’s 8.2kg without pedals. You seem to have look carbon pedals which are about 190 grams. So, you’ll have to loose about 1.5kg to get it below 7.0 as you claim. I never seen 1000grams climbing wheels. Maybe about 1200 grams is as low mortals would be able to get. You have a c59 saddle , low weigh bottle cages, low weight pedals all weight weenie components. Nothing to gain there; the only thing which is hard to estimate are the wheels with this rear hub in it. If it was two by , those deep wheels wouldn’t weigh more than 1500grams with normal hubs. But it’s one by and the special hub in the back which weight i don’t know. I am sure it’s not 1000 grams or so….
So; i think you and david exaggerate quite a bit. I think you’ll might get it just below 8kg. 400/500 grams weight gain on light weight climber wheels and swap from hub gears to normal gears might just do that. How you’ll gain another 1000grams ?
But like i said: maybe a nice new vid to make? Don’t mind you or david prove me wrong and getting that bike from approx 8.4kg to below 7.0 kg. And ofcourse how much that will cost..
Hi mate, look at twisted wheels or rides of Japan. They have 850g disk wheels from memory. The Duracell cassettes lighter. Power hub adds quite a bit of weight (rear wheels over 1.8g from memory). So yes that frames easy to put sub 7kg. I don’t as I’m over 85kg. Even comparing my bike to rides of Japan, his frames 1.4kg from memory and weights a total of 6.5, twisted wheels has an at his at low 5kgs. Also many of the parts were from a previous build. Also, David’s weights with the titanium speed play pedals. If I copied rides of Japan build exactly, the total build would be about 6.8, less with the wheels twisted wheels uses.
All good tho, it rides like a beast
My main complain about steel frames is how spongy the front end is, I suppose the oversized head tube should improve a bit
Should be rim brake, to keep with the classic theme.
that is a sensible bike! Is it aero though?
А если по лесу, по корням, по гравию или песку? По асфальту любой вел поедет )))
It’s a race bike, not a mtb…
Cheers mate 😊,
Amazing machine and what an opportunity to ride this as well 👍👋. Very good one as usual, stay safe and have a good one cheers from Denmark 👋☺️
Thanks 👍
Yup, it sure blows
Looks great!
Big point made about it being a British bike brand but then say it was made in Italy?
Then frothing it was a one by system but it has a classified hub. With the cassette and the hub is that one by?
I know you have your preferences and want to make then sound amazing but you really need to think through some of the stuff you say.
It is 1x up front. With classified system bringing the benefits of 2x in terms of gear range. We fit, design and build everything in the UK. David refers to us as the ‘frame builder’ in the video, which is flattering to hear, but I’ve never called myself that although I have made the odd frame from time to time. almost every frame we’ve made for a customer over the years is fabricated by our long standing team in Vincenza, not too far from our first workshop in Montgenevre. I used to build them myself at that workshop in the mountains, but we moved everything to Surrey some years back now, but we do still head back there for testing and development and treat it a little like our second home. I spend as much time out there as the order book allows basically and we do arrange pick ups there if customers want to ride them in their ‘original’ home with us.
@@SpoonCustoms Thanks for your reply and some history of your brand. I checked out your website and your bikes look very nice. My comments are not about you, its about the information conveyed. Fair enough about being a British brand but being built in Italy. Your explanation is far better. But on the one by statement that's not right, the bike has two locations that it can change the gear ratio hence it is not one by.
@@euroswilliams7303thanks, we love what we do. Thanks for the feedback too.
One by or 1x commonly refers to a bike with a single chainring, which this bike has, hence why it's described as such
@@davidarthur it has another shifting mechanism within the hub, two points to change gear ratio.
😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Beautiful but....
There are many equally beautiful british made options. Lets throw our custom their way or we will lose them. Just saying..
I started the company in the Alps, but we’re based in Surrey these days
stem looks odd, doesnt fit the build aesthetic
The integrated deda dust cap matches it up perfectly, which is due to go on shortly
The front looks junky and ugly... there is no line in the bike...
A custom bike with a stem chimney 🙄 screams custom alright
I’ve just had back surgery (3 months ago) so it’s there just in case. The integrated deda dust caps going on once the chimneys chopped off.
Even without Mike’s back trauma, we usually leave 10/20mm for adjustment after first few rides, then invite all customers back to review the fit before we cut things we can’t undo. Generally though, most people just come back to have the excess removed.
Good video David, but the elephant in the room is asiing how much did this bespoke gem cost Mike? Probably the wrong side of £10k ++?? Keep up the quality of your videos, always appreciated, and a viewers rides element wiuld be great to see!🙂🙂🙂
Our frames start from £1895. XCR frames start from 4k. Or just a little less than an off the rack mass produced Tarmac.
It felt rude to ask him!