How to Shim your 7M oil pump (and what I do that I think is better)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ต.ค. 2021
- In this video, I talk about the "How" and "Why" of shimming the stock oil pump on your 7M. Please watch the entire video before commenting that this is a worthless modification.
Tools used in this video:
22mm Gearwrench wrench: amzn.to/3q11Zrt
Capri Tools Vise: amzn.to/2ZFNtui
Capri Tools open-end torque wrench: amzn.to/3mzuGKb
Parts used in this video:
Factory oil pump: (I got mine from WorldPac, but you can also get it here) amzn.to/3CEC5NU
DM Upgraded oil pump: www.driftmotion.com/Driftmoti...
DM spring: www.driftmotion.com/DM-Upgrad...
DM oil line upgrade: www.driftmotion.com/product-p...
AZ Performance oil line upgrade: www.driftmotion.com/AZ-Perfor...
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Yes yes yes! Please make videos about ALL the 7M and Supra common upgrades, tips, tricks, and problems. 12volt fuel pump mod, to auto window up, to EGR plug.
YESSSS!!! Gonna do the 12v fuel pump mod soon, and EGR with 88! (Already done with the 89!) and tail lamp failure module, proper way to reseal targa.... ALL THE THINGSSSSSS
More simple than I thought. I'll go with the 30% spring. Thanks Faye, much appreciated.
You rock
Good idea going over the items that were once covered in the forums. It will make life so much easier for the fans that are doing their own 7M swap or rebuild.
Agreed! Thank you!
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OMG! Sooooo cute! I have fur babies so I understand. We weren't blessed with babies but our fur babies love us unconditionally! I know yours love you the same.
I no longer own a Toyota that I'd work on. But I really enjoy your channel. You have an excellent way of presenting you information.
Thank you! What do you drive now?
I do really enjoy your work. You are well spoken and obviously have a great deal of knowledge about the 7m engines. Keep up the good work and I sincerely hope to see more in the future.
Thank you so much!
I put the driftmotion oil pump on my 7m and I am very pleased with the extra oil pressure. This a worthwhile upgrade to do in my opinion.
Oh heck yes!!! With coated gears?!! I wish!!! It's backordered right now 😫 that's what I REALLY want!!!
Thanks for all the great informative videos Faye, you are the BEST !!!
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I have the 4 door Supra and still enjoy any 7M news
Love my Cressi!
Heck yes!!!
Miss Faye! Your videos are so awesome! I don't really have any interest in Japanese cars myself but your passion and enthusiasm for what you do is infectious. You also explain things so well and with great energy, I really could watch your vids all day. I have no doubt you'll have a million subscribers before you know it. Keep up the great work!!
I sincerely enjoyed the video. And I’m truly Sorry to hear that that forum is gone. (Especially all the hard work multiple people put into them)
I’ve seen one or two bite the dust over the last 5yrs.
Yesss. More 7M/Supra videos!
And a lot more to come!!!
Great Video Faye! I have lost count of how many of these I have done 😆
What shim thickness did you use?? So are you a believer in this method then?! Curious minds want to know your results!!!! 😅
Nice description and tutorial !! Always enjoyed your videos !! 👌😁
Thank you so much!
This video is a lifesaver. There isn't a ton of info left out there on M engines and I wanted to increase pressure and flow on my 5M since I've spun the number #5 twice between two motors. I was going to shim, but I see now there's a much better way, thanks Faye!
Oh! And Driftmotion has the upgraded pumps for the 5M too!! Awesome! I'll also be discussing the oil.cooler relief spring, thermostat install, and oil filter relocation too in the future with my 89 build! Hope that will help you too! Stay tuned 😀👍🏻
Fantastic video and info. Would love to see the install back into the 7M engine.
That is good to know Faye if there was a time to get a car like that I learned alot
Seems to be a pretty easy modification; and very well explained and shown.
Thank you!
Shimming my 2JZGTE pump today since I’m not pulling it out any time soon. This did help give me an idea of how much to add. It’s all I’m doing at the moment, but if I do ever have to pull the motor or something, I do plan on upgrading the pump.
Great tip and great video. Thanks for sharing 👍
Hey Faye, it’s Scott. And for today’s comment I want to give you a 👍🏻 for the Smokey Yunick pic on your tool box in the background. Super smart guy and his book ‘Power Secrets’ is a must read for any gearhead.
Great video too!
YESSS I own it! Great book!!! Have you joined us for automotive book club live? We are reading smokey books!
Yay more 7M stuff!
Hello Faye very informative video Wishing you well Take Care
Yes, this video was greatly enjoyed.
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Great video and goo on formation Faye, Thank You
Yes, please make more of these videos
I absolutely will!!
Fey. Your well loved . We need more car girls. I used a shim ( the thickness) you used on a FE big block 390 cu. In. Ford and it changed the oil pressure so much higher the oil filter blew up like a baloon. From then on I used shims in the thousands of an inch such as .010 to make the pressure desired.
Crazy!! Yeah the 7M oiling system is set up a little bit differently than that one 🤣🤣🤣
Great Video👍🏻
Awesome video definitely gonna subscribe
Great video!
Hey Faye, Great video always interested in anything supra I had an 88 but never really did anything to it just maintenance . I’ve rarely modified anything that it didn’t end up being worth it. Definitely more supra content mark4 and mark5 have fun and stay safe🙂🐔🐔🐔🐧
Great video..thank you!
Great info 👍 love the channel
Thank you!
I just got my 86.5 last April. I bought it off a flatbed while it was heading to the scrapyard (makes me feel better seeing your junkyard save). In my head I was thinking 1j or 2j. But then I got it to run after it had been sitting for 5-7 years and realized it was still in okay shape considering what it had been through. Then the title came in the mail and I realized I was only the 2nd owner. So I feel obligated to rebuild out of respect. I also feel obligated to swap out pistons so the 10 psi of boost is little safer.
Since it still runs okay I have been fixing up cosmetic stuff (just welded shut my rusty butt) and putting off the motor rebuild until summer. So I personally appreciate the videos. I love forums for help but seeing is always better then just reading for me. Also the odometer on mine says 260k and she is happier with thicker oil and I don't feel bad about it. I like being able to cruise in it while I get stuff done.
YESSSSSẞSSSSSSS I LOVE THIS COMMENT!!!! I am so stoked you saved it and kept the 7M! My first build went 220k before the original headgasket gave out, and I used 20W50 towards the end and never had an oiling issue! Noticed the coolant was disappearing and finally knew I had to do something about it before it got worse and made my rebuild more expensive. Little did I know I would choose a terrible machine shop (back in Portland Oregon) and made it the most difficult and expensive rebuild of my life!
100 thousand subcribers, Nearly there Faye
So close!
i had a 91 7mgte thing went through head gaskets alot lol but i still miss it she was a kinda of dark blue that looked black at night
Thanks Faye! :)
Really enjoyed watching, even though I don’t plan to shim our Sienna oil pump. Wow, by the time I finish this comment you may be at 100k subs. Yea haw!
My channel doesn't grow that fast (been at it since 2013!) but that's okay! I love the subs I got!! Thank you for being one!!!
Good video. 🤘
Fascinating. I suppose that you know as well as I do that the only way raising the maximum pressure will improve the performance at idle is if the relief valve is not very well implemented or the QC in manufacture is not what it should be. There may be something else that we don't know about so I'll accept that it's worthwhile. As for Aisin grinding off the Toyota name, and I understand it's them doing it, it's always done for aftermarket sales under their own name. OE parts from Toyota have the name left on and this way Aisin don't need to retool. I suppose they go through a few Dremels. ;-)
Good Evening buddy.
Hugs miss Faye:) Awesome video:)
Thanks Aaron!!
Yeah it sucks at SupraMania went down. I remember following your old build thread back in the day. Some guys on supraforums where talking about trying to collect as much data as possible to try to rebuild it. Working on getting my Mk3 back on the road with a 2J. Have killed a few 7m over the years.
Way cool advice! Lol piece and assembly grease!
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Aaron used to offer a service to send oil pump gears out to get a coating that made the tolerances tighter and increase oil flow volume.
He still does
Not only is the 90 in the stock oil tube but banjo holts are VERY restrictive. Look at the tiny holes in the bolt vs. The size of an 8n steel braid and fittings. On my performance 7m builds (done quite a few I am old and have a kid into Supras) I remove every banjo fitting and convert to an lines. Yes the squirters are banjo but I dont always use turbo blocks and if you use forged pistons squirters arent needed. I've built many non turbo blocks to take a lot of boost with no squirters and no failures at reasonable settings.
nice vid!
Faye you and the Chicks are Great
Thank you so much!!
Well Faye, ya know, a lot of this is over my head.
But I like your chickens.
Thank you for loving my chickens!!! 😅 Guaranteed to show up in every video!!
Loving the patriotic manicure 💅
Thank you!!
its so cool seeing a female that is a passionate gear head ⚙️! We need more of this in the world. keep up the good videos! 🤘🏻🤘🏻
5.56 the old AR shim
Haha so true! Didn't even think of that!!! ....or did I?! 😉
You were kind enough to leave the comment to some old dude
It would certainly be beneficial to know if similar mods are available for other Toyota engines. I think that most people rebuilding a Toyota won’t be doing a stock rebuild and higher oil psi is often desirable
Great info Faye!! 🐔🐔
Your subs are almost getting to the six digit number……. Keep’m coming!!
I'm trying!!! 😅 I want them all to be real, natural sub's though, I don't like to pressure them 😆
Great video, thanks for making it. Much appreciated!👍🏾 Do you have list of planned mods for your 7MGTE be the 88 or the 89? Just wondering what the consensus is now in 2022 on what actually needs to be done and what is available. I have a 91 that will be getting built, and I don't want to do any outdated (unnecessary) work to it. Back in 2004 the forum was littered with ideas (so great and some no so great), which by now should have been vetted. I'm hoping to find a list of mods that are tried and true. Thanks again for the video.
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Wow Faye..do i add "Master Engraver" to the list? i love the drawing of the spring on the bolt! Great vid..never worked on Supras..but always enjoy your fantastic how to's!
HAHA 😆 you should have seen my pumpkin!! Thank you!
@@FayeHadley I did! im the same that said you are the "Master Carver" :)
had no idea you went over 7m engines, got my hands on an mx83 cressida with the GE, plan to keep it NA + light mods as a daily that i can also have a bit of fun with. definitely getting the stiffer spring
update: ok so the stiffer spring only affects maximum pressure. you probably do not want this too high at higher rpms as that can lead to problems. really the only thing that can improve the oiling system are getting rid of the awful banjo bolt setup for the pipe that goes into the block, and reducing the gap between the oil pump gears and the lower body/pickup tube of the oil pump.
You are right. Now I understand.
But I kept on saying sexist things like
“You’re just a girl you can’t be a mechanic and so forth”
If you shim it too much then you’ll have a risk of having high oil pressure in your engine
I wish this option was available for the 3S-GTE. Our engines are very similar in many ways but our oil pumps are very different.
Hi that is really great learning video.i am in p to rebuild my 7mge on 88 supra but I like to know how many washers I can put in new pump and did 7mge and 7mgte oil pump is different. I really .keep going with good supra videos...
Hey Faye, when you shimmed the 5mm what was the oil pressure on the gauge?
I found this very interesting. Is it possible to modify oil pump on a 1976 mg midget relief valve. The relief valve is external on the block. I value your input.
Hi Faye, could you do a tutorial on how to change the transmission fluid, transfer case and differential of a 3rd generation 4runner
Yes I absolutely can!
@@FayeHadley Thanks 😊😊
Hell yeah i bought the whole pump from DM,,,, CHICKENS 🐔
also when is your fuel pump kit coming out?????
Hi Faye. Did you increase the idle oil preasure ?
Yes I did!
Hi Faye!, I wanted to ask you in the old engine the one that you had the pump shimmed, what was the change at IDLE? and, why is there a change at idle?. I am now restoring an engine myself, I have the new pump but the complete motor is old, therefore high clearances. Would shimming help improve a little bit the pressure at idle?
thanks!
Cheers
While you have the spring handy, could you measure the OD free length? Im carious about this for another toyota engine im working on.
Oh, sure! I'll do that and get back to you!! I'll post it in my "community" tab because someone else asked for measurements of the washers!
I have the 7MGE blues😢 Bought my mk3 1 1/2 years ago after it sat for nearly 20 years because of a BHG & RK. After an entire rebuild for some strange reason the Bronze helical gear on the oil pump was sheared off. Started all over and decided to add DM larger oil tube, Eagle rods, ARP head stud kit & a Cometic MLS head gasket. It was running beautifully and then….. it happened again (Your & Danny’s thoughts on that would greatly be appreciated). The Machine shop guy’s and I wrapped our heads around the shimming process and believe in the end, for 7M’s, the pressure is questionable but higher volume would be a safer solution rather than high pressure. Also, what are your thoughts on the oil squirter‘s? The previous owner of the GTE block I bought recently deleted them because it has forged internals. I’ve got a TON of questions!
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I am not spotting the AISIN pump, have you heard anything negative about the SKP SKOPT059 ? Working to machine and reassemble the engine in the next couple months.
Wondering what the move is now that aisin has discontinued pumps. My gauge is showing low pressure and, while ive yet to verify it with a mechanical gauge, if it is the oil pump I seem to be shit out of luck at the moment.
I wanted to build my old supra but parts for a 7m get so expensive so quickly
Yeah some are worse than 2J!! Probably due to demand! But still I think a built 7M.is cheaper than a 2J swap anyday.
How about if a stretch up the spring little bit?
I'm not likely to every find myself working on a Toyota oil pump, but it was still an interesting video. But... I'm assuming there's a particular pressure you're looking for, so I wonder if there's a way to measure the output and be sure you're getting what you want out of it before you put the engine back together? I'd be afraid I'd put everything back together and find it just ain't quite right. But that's just me; I'm persnickety.
Totally!! That's why I like going with the tried and true spring that someone already took the time to perfect 😅
Unfortunately supramania has been down for a long time. Last i heard they were trying to recover archives but had been unsuccessful thusfar. By default I've had to switch back to SF which has really good mk3 activity now.
Been doing some old school piggback his stuff and I've found tons of help on sf. I sure do miss SM though! So many good stickies on there.
SOOOOOO many good stickies!! Yeah the Mk3 crows has done a good job of building SF for Mk3 content, but there's a LOT of lost knowledge by the old school guys ..... yeah it's been down for almost a year now??
@@FayeHadley it is so unfortunate that so much content on SM was lost. I like your idea of covering some 7M content on your channel. Great way to retain some info!
Aaron is the man! I had my CT upgraded to 57 trim by DM. The wastegate wad dsmaged during shipping and aaron had a new one in the mail right away. DM and Aaron are the go to for all things 7M!
Any chance these are still available on WorldPac at all? Can't seem to find a Turbo oil pump anywhere now
They are! I bought one recently! You can also find them in driftmotion's website!
@@FayeHadley driftmotion is out of stock too. Aaron said he has an order with Aisin but no eta as they are currently discontinued. Can you order me one? Lol
@@FayeHadley I messaged you on IG as well. If they’re available on worldpac can I buy through you? I’m not a licensed mechanic just hobbyist 💕
Great videotorial, Faye! As indeed supramania seems to stay down I've also made a lot of information and pictures available on my site for conservation purposes. Would you mind if I'd make some screenshots and add them to a 'shim the oil pump' tutorial? Of course with proper crediting and a link to your channel. Thanks for helping keeping the 7MG(T)E's alive!
Take screenshots of this video?? Of course I don't mind! I put this out there for free to help the 7M community! Just as those amazing folks have done on supramania for so many years :)) I'd be honored if you wanted to share any part of this video! Thank you!
@@FayeHadley Thank you. I will provide you with a link when it's done, if you'd be interested in that.
Dear Faye, My article is almost done. Would you be so kind and measure up both the inner and outer diameter of the shims please so I can include that information? I prefer the metric system if that is all the same to you. Thanks!
@@TjabboNL do you have a link to the article/blog? thx!
I've been driving Supras for years and never had an oil related issue on the stock oil pump. is this only something you need to do if you're making more power than stock?
No, if youre going to be drifting or driving aggressively and sloshing all the oil to one side of the pan or could potentially dry suck from the sump. If you're a careful 7M owner, you should have no problem. Most issues with this engine I believe are caused by neglect.
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Is this okay to do for a 7mge or will it cause problems since i dont have a turbo?
Should be fine
Hey Fey, just gotta ask. Do you have a shop that you service customers car? I mean just being honest it is scary to just bring a mrk3 anywhere for not a lot of mechanics are knowledgeable to our kind a cars, I mean let’s face it our cars are probably older that most you know?!
Is that different part From a 2jz ??
Yes definitely a different part. The 7M is the 2J's more complainy more finicky older brother 😆
Good info!
BTW, who would suggest that you DON’T feed the birds!?!
I have a 86.5 7mge. Has been setting for 10+ years. Had the motor replaced and the mechanic that did the job did not do some things right. Had to take it back for oil leak problems several times and were never fully fixed. Then the bolt that hold the harmonic balancer sheared of in the crank. I parked it hoping to rebuild one day and I have not had the opportunity. The ? Is would any of your enthusiast be interested in purchasing it. I hate to see it set and rot.
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I have the DM upgraded braided line for my pump and the shim mod. My oil pressure isn't great so i wonder if i have a stuck oil squirter?
Yes, great question. Lots of folks delete them, and also is your oil cooler stock? That is a weak spring as well. I'll be covering my oil cooler/oil filter spring delete and thermostat install with my 89 build!
Also, what's your pressure at idle?
@@FayeHadley i do have a stock oil cooler so perhaps that is the weak link? I think i remember possibly shimming a relief spring in the oil filter housing but it has been awhile.
I should have deleted my oil squirters last time i rebuilt!
Looking forward to your video covering the oil cooler portion of the lubrication system! Keep up the awesome content!!
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Shhh.. Go with yer gut.
Not an if, and, or but.
Rain down an Ok👍
Negative .. no say,
Or go elsewhere.
Girl likes to share.
On a positive note.
Faye has my vote.
She took the time -
On her own dime.
To add her smile
And chat awhile.
(BTW, Faye.. Thanks for sharing.)
Faye I'm in love lol jk . Anyone have any idea why I'm losing oil pressure under a heavy acceleration? It's a built 1989 7mgte turbo.
How much are you losing? #s?
Supramania is online
Oh yea Supra mania is gone forever.
I wish I had got the celica gts with the 22 re engine, more reliable !!!
Looking more human today
Huh?
@@FayeHadley R Man probably mistook the pointed Pixie ears from the Halloween book club livestream for Mr. Spocks Vulcan ears.
My 1983 Supra lost oil pressure and ruined the cams and piston Rod bearings. So I traded it in for a 4 cyl Toyota. I will never buy another strait 6.
I think i would enjoy working on cars for a living a lot more if i was working at a shop with you. I could learn a lot from you, you seem to really enjoy what you do, and seeing a pretty smiling face always makes the day better. :)
I really enjoy what I do! Thank you!
@@FayeHadley, when i was younger i loved working on cars for fun, but actually having to do it to pay bills has taken some of the fun out of it. maybe one day i will be able to retire and work on cars for fun again, but since i am only 35, im not even sure what kind of cars will still be around when i retire.
I think it would be cool to do a toyota mini truck project with like a 2jz swap. but i would need the help of somebody like you to do that.