Training with a Hernia
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I had a hernia, was told by the surgeon to stop heavy barbell training until after surgery, 4 weeks after surgery went back to training, now im stronger than before. If you have a hernia get that shit fixed asap, hernias do not repair by themselves, they only get worse and worse. A small hernia is way easier to fix and recover from than a large hernia because you were too stubborn to stop lifting and get it fixed.
Same here - no problem after surgery. Also took care of it, as soon as I discovered I had one. Nick Best had one inguinal repaired back in 2001. He never had a problem - he squats and deadlift over 800 pounds!
@@Aggrobiscuit That's not how it works.
Aggrobiscuit you can not heal a hernia mate. Only a surgical repair will fix it
they dont want to get mine fixed until it worsen
@@respectedmastermind If it were me, i'd find a different surgeon.
I'm glad i got mine repaired while it was small. The thought of it getting worse was terrifying to me. Actual guts coming through would be bad enough, but the thought of them descending down into the scrotum is just about the last thing on earth i'd want.
I did lift heavy for months with it, and didn't even know i had it at first.
Still, i took the time off pre and post surgery.
Missed a meet i was prepping for, and that stings, but i'd do the same again.
Took the time off to do a bit of a cut.
If you herniate the side parallel to your current hernia you will offset it and can train even harder!
This
Hernias...Hernias everywhere....
And to make sure its balanced get a hernia right in the centre
@Luke yeet let me know, my cousin has a legit hernia giving method...pain free
Funniest comment ever!
Now do a ''Training with hemorroids''
Featuring Adam Paul.
1BU agree lol
Squat plug
lol!
get prep H asap
Epic
Been training with my herniated disc since I was 18. Best gym partner ever, never skipped a workout.
Any tips on how to avoid herniation of a disc?
@@mmjsfca I think you should ask a doctor. the only tip I could give you is to avoid excessive loads on your back, do a lot of glutes strengthening exercises like lunges bodyweight squats and lots of core work. It worked out for me so far. Good luck bro
Giulio Iaconisi my herniated discs can confirm 😘
He wasn't talking about a herniated disk.
@@vikingslayer34 I know
Been training with a partial hernia for about a year. My doctor told me to just keep on lifting & going on as normal. Take it easy if it starts hurting/bulging acting up & to contact him. He said if the hernia is going to go... it’s just going to go. Regardless of physical activity if the guts want out they’ll make it out and when/if they do it’ll be dealt with at that time. My Dr. subscribes to the mindset of training untamed.
Guy at my work did some self treatment his g.ma told him to do. Hot rocks on site of injury for 30 min for a few days and then switch from hot to cold rock evey 15 min for a week after that.sleeping on his stomach and stomach vacuum.( touch your stomach to the inside of your back). Went away for him..something to look into.
An actual hernia, partial or complete tear, will not go away on its own. Yes you can continue training with a hernia (I have and made prs). If you have OPEN Hernia repair, recovery will be approximately 6 weeks. Yes I tried to come back early and yes, I was met with pretty intense pain around surgery site. But afterwards I have made significant progress again and I will highly recommend to eat plenty of fiber. Any pain I feel now comes from constipation rather than actual lifting
Our main concerns with hernias are them becoming incarcerated and ultimately strangulated, which are serious issues. I would be extremely careful continuing training if you have a hernia
@@chunkysalsa9219 Eating plenty of fiber is the exact opposite you should do when constipated .. (for example: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3435786/)
@@babyjake6695 what do you mean by sleeping on his stomach? Belly up or down? Sleeping with your belly down sounds a bit weird, hence the confusion 😉
When people talk about hernias I get so debilitated and I feel like I have a hernia myself.
Depending on the Hernia you might not even realise you have one. Happened to me lol.
@@opusa i went in to have a known one repaired and they found a second one i was unaware of.
Absolutely feel the same way! Already am a little paranoid.
Same
Same bro
70 year old here, just got Inguinal Hernia, thanks for info.
I had two of them and both times the doctor have opened me like a fish. But now I lift like crazy.
So you can still lift over 400 pounds after the hurnia surgery I almost got one again I am fixing to go to the doctor tomorrow sir I just want to know if you can still lift over 400 pounds no problem after the surgery
@@CoreyShelton57 ok, considering that my weight is 140 pounds, I coul not lift weights like 400 pounds. However my 1 rep Max years after the surgeries is 352 pounds and this is like 2,5 Times my bodyweight. For me that is totaly finde.
Regards
Alan, today I was having breakfast and a cup of coffee when I felt a sharp pain in my stomach. After a short while of increasing pain, an alien creature burst out my stomach. I spilled the coffee. I know, a sin. Anyway, the creature ran away behind the fridge. Do you think I can still train today? Squats and deads. I have issues with bracing now. I feel like keeping my stomach all tight is not easy at all! I don't want to be a pussy. Awaiting your response, as I am driving to the gym. If you say go see a doctor, I will drive on to the doc. Same direction as the gym is in anyway.
I say you are just dallying for no reason. You dont lift with your guts! Quit lollygagging and finding excuses.
How are you gonna drive to the doc when you are on a freight ship 2 million light years away?
@@theparijat1000 This is exactly what I needed to hear. Just finished a set of squats. It was gut-wrenching, but I finally found a use for the otherwise useless BOSU ball in the gym. I stuffed it in where my stomach used to be.
@@finalcam1740 We landed in China late last year. We were so happy to be on planet Earth again, we skipped the quarantine procedures we normally follow closely. Don't tell anyone.
This is the funniest shit I’ve read all day 😂
Don’t have a hernia, but I have to watch new Alan Thrall content when it comes out
Same
5:30 I thought you were gonna say "The day after surgery, I got back in the squat rack" lol I'm glad you didn't do that
Training with a hernia is madness. Best to get that shit repaired.
He didn’t say that but almost. Fourth day back at the gym is crazy. My doctor told me today to not lift any weight for 4 weeks…
The second you said "I is no doctor" I liked the video. That line alone made it worth it.
I had open surgery, no mesh. It took me a few weeks to recover before walking on the treadmill. Unfortunately the hernia has returned after a few weeks of light lifting and now I’m considering laparoscopic mesh. This video definitely encouraged me to stay positive.
Literally just got the same news man. I have an initial paraumbilical hernia that was repaired with just suture repair and it’s reoccurred even though I haven’t been lifting heavy.
Always do mesh for this exact reason
@@danielkelly798Most surgeons don’t even do suture anymore and do mesh because it’s almost guarantee to come back without mesh.
I wish this came out two years ago when I got mine - took me a year to mentally be okay exercising again afterwards
This is a very similar story to mine (minus the PT and insane exercise schedule) and it still bugs me to this day, so I really enjoyed this video
Pain still?
Army guy here. I did the same thing. Fell in love with powerlifting. Tore my miniscus about 2 years ago. Just got the surgery. It sucks but if i could, i wouldve gotten it taken care of much earlier.
When you have herniated disc and you watch this video and the ansvers on your questions never appear. Then it is time to realize that hernia and herniated disc are two different things.
Very different. One is the bulging of the intestines through a weakening in the abdominal cavity. And the other is the bulging of the intervertebral discs pushing on nerves in the spine. The later is probably a much harder injury to train with because it's directly pushing on the nerves of the spine which affects everything downstream. Many people can train through an abdominal hernia because it's just weakened muscles that usually haven't fully torn it's uncomfortable but bearable. Versus a herniated disk is actually directly pushing on the nerves and can cause serve sharp pains or numbness.
Just diagnosed with what the doctor called a ‘Small hernia,’ in the groin, and I have no lump. So I’m happy to hear you worked out for a year before having surgery. 👍
That clip of the massive hernia... 🤢
I wasn't ready
Oh my God wtf did I watch
there always has to be an extreme condition of something eeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwww
It'll give me nightmares
I think his whole digestive system is herniated.
God damn dude I honestly feel you when it comes to pain. I had a minor pulled groin when I went in for usmc boot camp and was like fuck it. I'm pushing through till I was permanently stationed at 29 palms after one year with training. It's been many years since then and just been smart on how I approach training. I've been out for 12 years and look way better aesthetically now than when I was 18 yrs old. Semper Fi bro!
Alan for president. I Just love the way you talk 100% on point.
“Now I’m gonna lose all my gains” SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE BRO DFKM I LOVED THAT STATEMENT
I’ve had an inguinal hernia for almost 4 years now. Purchased a hernia belt within a month of it. I’ve continued powerlifting the whole time...I have to wear the hernia belt under 2 pairs of compression shorts during training. All while having the hernia I’ve went from benching 265 to 305, deadlifting 500 to 555 and squatting 315 to 415....all at sub 180 BW. Been PLing for around 6 years. However, I’ve had the itch to compete for years and as Alan did I’ve put off getting surgery because of fear of “losing gains”. The itch to compete in powerlifting has only grown stronger, and I will have to get the hernia repaired before conpeting as meets don’t allow hernia belts. Basically what I’m saying is listen to Alan and don’t put off surgery or let it hold you back from competing as I have done.
Have you had it operated on now? I found today I have one and have to go on a waiting list for surgery.
I've been training with blue balls . Hitting P.R 's . ⭕⭕
I felt the obvious pop and gut spillage sensation. Guts down I to my nuts. The hernia surgeon felt around and told me "probably just a groin strain". I hope that surgeon gets 100 million hernias. The next surgeon felt around and immediately said "there's a hernia". It was yet another lesson for me that you NEED to go to the doctor asap when shit goes wrong and also you should expect the doctor to be wrong half the time.
Dear Daniel: Likewise, I hope, better, still; locate a surgeon with vast experience in hernias so the risk-to-reward ratio can be greatly reduced.
I have two hernias, one umbilical which I probably was born with and one abdominal 4 cm above it. Been 4 years in the military with them and powerlifting for 6 years (but I use a belt religiously whenever I do a movement involving a lot of intraabdominal pressure). Ive gotten them looked at by a surgeon and different doctors, I am myself halfway through medical school. A small hernia isnt a problem, but a bulging one isnt to be ignored. You can train with them, but they will never go away and you cannot train them away. The issue is not the hernia itself, its the risk of the hernia getting incarcerated. If it does, its acute as its often the intestines who gets pushed through the hole, stuck and get stripped of blood supply.
did you ever get surgery ?? i think i have abdominal hernia myself i get mild pain sometimes but nothing major i just want to go back to the gym?
Strangely your story sounded exactly like mine except I took it much easier during recovery. My main observation from this incident as to what could have caused the hernia 1. In general a person is predisposed to getting a hernia. It accelerates of your physically active 2. I think using a belt played a role. I don’t use a belt after surgery and still do the same PRs. Learning was that the belt was creating unnecessary abdominal pressure.
I read "Training with a hernia" to the tune of James Brown's Living in America.
This is a great video on inguinal hernias, but it's probably worth distinguishing the different types of hernias. Muscle belly hernias are not the same as inguinal hernias and not at all the same as herniated discs (just listed them because of popularity). Inguinal hernias are mostly genetic, from what I understand, and based on how your inguinal canal develops as a youth. Usually not relating to specific trauma, whereas the other two could be.
Thanks Alan... Im in this scenario right now but Im much older and was quite concerned. You gave me some peace...much appreciated
I had the same surgery when I was 35 back in 2014. Inguinal hernia's are purely genetic. They can't be caused by lifting weights or prevented by lifting weights. They can happen to new born babies or young toddlers even teenagers or any age of your adult life. There are no restrictions after surgery but you probably won't want to do any kind of workout that involves the abs for about 4 to 6 days. But you can lift weights or ride a bike if you feel up to it. If you feel like a particular activity or movement gives you too much pain then simply don't do that until you feel like you can.
Did you exercise, run or lift weights with it for awhile?
@@brandonh1133 I wasn't lifting at the time but I was doing a lot of steady pace cardio like 5K's. Really the only thing that was uncomfortable was if I pushed too hard taking a crap lol.
@@mawage666 thanks for the reply. I was seen 6 months ago and had been training to run a marathon. The doctor said go ahead and run your marathon and we will do the surgery after. I never went back. Now that I’m lifting weights because I run less in the winter I am waiting for it to get worse. I think I’m going to get it repaired in the next few weeks. I am nervous as hell about going under!! Hahahaha. Take care.
@@brandonh1133 easy as pie. You'll be in and out of the hospital in about 2 hours. I even helped my friend with here front brakes on her car the very next day. I only had pain in my abdominal area from the surgery for about 4 days just if I was getting up fr sitting or lying down. But was back to 100% pain free in 8 days. And it's not like unbearable pain it's just like the kind of pain like if you did a lot of crunches or sit ups. It's really nothing.
@@mawage666 thanks man. Puts my mind at ease. I appreciate you replying back!! Thank you.
Must've sucked having to choose between your training and treatment. I'm glad it worked out in the end! Working on a hospital floor where I see frequent hernia repairs, I wouldn't recommend the general public to continue weightlifting until after receiving OK from an MD. Not every hernia needs surgical attention, but it definitely warrants a trip to the doctor. If it can be reduced without surgery, wonderful news! But if it becomes recurrent or you have severe pain/nausea/vomiting with a hernia, you need a trip to the ER-that could mean bowel incarceration/strangulation.
Thanks for sharing the experience man! I can't imagine training through a hernia, that's some fortitude
Guys often get hernia, it is one of the most common types of surgeries they do at hospitals, at some hospitals the most common. It is not a specific problem with a specific exercise but some exercises do seem to cause more problems than others, for example when you press the legs together or when you do dumbbell single arm rows so you get an asymmetric load on the lower abs. Most of these exercises you can do slightly different in order to prevent hernias, like a dumbbell single arm row you can stand with both legs on the ground instead of having one leg on the bench an so forth.
Sir. Thank you for your Service. It's very much appreciated. Your video has reassured me the most. I'm in love with the same kind of power style athlete training. I've been very worried for some time now. But I can still run and train which made me rethink alot of this. Your video was most helpful. Thank you for your time and consideration to us all.
7:35 caught me completely off guard
Tyler Adler yeah, i was not ready for that
I had a very similar experience back fall of last year. Not from boot camp, but an inguinal hernia that popped up out of seemingly nowhere. Granted im a lot older than you were, 37, but i had surgery like you in November. Mine was robotic, but same thing. Simple clean up and add mesh. Was in the gym less than a week later just moving around, and slowly built back up to now im lifting basically back to where i was. Didn't lose much strength at all in the end, definitely some, but it was short term. Id recommend thinking about surgery eventually, as the hernia won't go away or get better on its own. Robotic however will potentially mean incisions about the wasteline (which i don't really care about, but wasn't informed about either) so go laproscopic if you don't want that. Dr's will often push for robotic because it pays better, gives them experience and gives the robot use...
Just wondering... Is there actually a part 2 on the Barbell Medicine TH-cam channel? I couldn't find it.
7:36 😭 Right after the first bite of dinner
I had a spinal stenosis last August. The doctors said osteoarthritis caused this (I’m 55 years old). My right hip was painful and my right leg was numb for 3 months. After a couple of month of rehab exercises I recovered and I’m happy to say that I now squat and deadlift more than 500 lbs.
My stepfather had a hernia. Dont know all the details exactly, but he also got a surgery where they put a mesh in. Unfortunately for him, the mesh tore apart, and now his core is full of little shards that they can't get out. So he has to ice it every day and the only training he can do is backstroke swimming with a noodle. He used to do triathlons.
1 year post umbilical hernia operation:
I took 3 months off lifting after the surgery, was back at full strength 4 months after that (I opted for non-mesh/Shouldice repair which is a slightly longer recovery but much better). I’m lifting more now than pre-op. Umbilical hernia was always a chronic pain but I was so used to it I didn’t notice how bad it actually was. Can’t believe I waited 15 years!! If you have a hernia get it fixed, your gains await…
I have an the same thing! How much was it? I work out everyday. Am I fucking up my body? I need my work outs to stay sane so I haven’t stopped
so no mesh???
Told my kidney doctor I got a hernia repair. His straight answer was " it was because of the powerlifting "?
My answer "No, it was there when I was born, 32 yrs ago. Repair it at age 2-3 months"
Just got surgery on my inguinal hernia a few days ago. Doctor said 3 months.... Mine was open surgery, though.
Most recovery plans they give you are very cautious. They don't want you to overdo it and screw up all the work they just did. Everybody's body will recover at a different rate. I'd also guess that it depends on the size of the hernia.
1 year
Went training after 3 months and it came back for me
3 years after my open inguinal hernia surgery and I feel ok but I still do not lift intense weights, I feel the surgical area really sore and warning me not to go beyond that when I try to lift something really heavy or when I force maximal abdominal pressure. After surgery you will never be the same again unless you go and do it early (I was stubborn and postponed my hernia surgery for a year) or do it laparoscopic. Do your research before doing it.
@@gazeveritt damn, really? 😞😞😞
I had the exact same hernia and exact same surgery as you. Thanks for giving me some reassurance that I can start lifting again soon!
How are you feeling after the surgery? are you back to lifting now?
Got a Inguinal Hernia two weeks ago, swallowed the wrong way and went into a coughing fit and suddenly I felt a slight tension in my groin only to discover a lump. Years of weight training, rock climbing, cycling and martial arts no problem but if you cough standing up straight you have pretty good chance of getting one. The doc says nothing to worry about, hmm I don't really believe that to be honest, bought a couple of fairly expensive sport trusses which I wear while training, helps a lot.
Since covid I have been training in the house rather than the gym; I had to modify my training because of the lack of equipment. Basically I now have a bench and a couple of adjustable dumbbells which max out 30kgs each, but I also bought a set of various heavy gauge square rubber bands. The resistance on the rubbers bands are more than equal to anything on my dumbells but the important part is this, most injuries in training with weights is rarely while doing the exercise but more often or not by getting yourself into the correct position to do the exercise or just moving the equipment about and not concentrating what you are doing.
The other common method of creating an injury is lifting too heavy and hurting yourself by cheating. I have found that using bands instead of weights removes these occasions where you are likely to injure yourself but more importantly you can train even while you have a hernia because you can train more effectively due to nature that exercise is more focused. With resistance bands it seems easier to isolate the muscle group you are training without bringing the rest of your body to help you exercise; isolating the muscle group your training is the most important thing you must do while you have a hernia, strict isolated muscle group training is essential.
I still intend to push for surgery though, a hernia doesn't heal itself and it can only get worse over time especially if you train or your work involves physical labour. I'm 67 so I expect that my recuperation will take longer after surgery than someone in their 30s or 40s., every injury takes longer to heal the older you get, you just have to suck it up and except that fact.
Did you have surgery? Assuming yes, what type surgery and how long ago? I'm close to your age with inguinal hernia, 70, and concerned I've spent 40 years conditioning my abs, and fearful of permanent atrophy if I can't exercise my abs for an extended period.
@@kimstockdale632 I got open surgery and it was big, no key hole had to get a mesh. The success rate with a mesh is far higher, don't consider anything else. I went for a local anesthetic, didn't want a general or a spinal block, with a spinal block you sometimes require a catheter after the operation because you may not be able to pee. To be honest the worst part of the operation was waiting for it, I have suffered worse in the dentists chair. My operation took over an hour but it didn't bother me, after the operation I was wheeled back to my room where I ate a three course lunch and drank a lot of water before being sent home. I kept drinking water until I went to bed, the reason for drinking water is that also effects your stool, the water makes it very lose. Frequently after a hernia operation you are constipated for several days, this means when you eventually go to the toilet its difficult to say the least, you cannot press because of the wound. Because I drank a lot of water I was able to go the next morning to the toilet without a problem, I just let gravity do it without needing to press.
Another thing I didn't tale any painkillers other than paracetamol, the reason for this, is that strong painkillers the hospital give you will make you constipated, their way of offsetting this is too also give you laxatives. I didn't want either of these things, basically it's not all that painful after the operation. The next morning I got up early had my porridge and then coffee, after that I went into the garden and watered my bog garden plants and fed my fish. I did everything pretty carefully though not lifting anything heavy, in fact I didn't lift anything heavy for twelve weeks. I cannot emphasise that enough, do not do anything for twelve weeks if you wish to have a successful post operation.
After twelve weeks I started cycling again, about ten miles at a leisurely pace every day for two weeks, after that I decided to go back to the gym and started very light, doing lots of reps for two weeks, after that I started increasing the weight. I have hardly noticed my hernia operation since I started back training, I'm back to cycling thirty miles at a time three to four times a week, which I usually alternate with the gym. I did change my gym regime though, I now train lighter but only using cables which intersperse with some stretching. I haven't done any ab exercises and I don't intend to. If you damage your mesh then you're in a world of trouble and I ain't going there, fact is when you are doing any resistance training you are involving your abs anyway, so there is no requirement to do isolated ab exercises, none at all. If you want to build your core then do all your exercise, right side first fallowed by the left, this done easier by using cables or bands. Example lets say you are doing pulldowns, then pull with one arm first then move onto the other arm, I do that for all my exercises, this gradually builds core and abs because you have to keep yourself anchored continually while exercising. Another major benefit doing it this way is that it's a lot kinder to your joints, the older it's not your strength that gives out but ligaments and tendons and also cartilage that hold your body together.
One final thing don't wait too long before your operation, I nearly died through my hernia being almost being strangulated, my intestines came out and fell into my testicles and when out in A&E they a had some difficulty putting everything back in. That's when I decide to pay for this operation. So don't wait.
Ask Alan Thrall if having a hernia is right for you.
HAH!
This is a good video. You don't need to be scared to get surgery. If you get it fixed, you'll feel a lot better. Don't listen to all the people trying to scare you, the surgery is fine. If I can give you a piece of advice, get up and walk after the surgery. The blood flow and circulation will help the mesh adhere to your body. Also do yoga. Stretch it out. Allow your body to heal naturally. Down time is about two weeks. Then it is healed.
I had to wait 6 months before I could attend basic training after surgery. I was 18 and didn't lift any waits. It just magically appeared.
i think alot guys went back to training too too fast
i am not a Doctor, but really bad advice there, hernias are dangerous and do not take care of themselves and all of them need surgery, if you have one take care of it ASAP
From what I've read people who develop inguinal hernias basically have had the condition since birth. The tissue covering the inguinal canal (where the spermetic cord goes from inside to outside of the body) is just weak in some people and over their lifespan it eventually gets strained enough that it tears and allows intestines to bulge out. So if you aren't naturally prone to hernia you probable won't ever get one from weight lifting so don't worry about it. A sports hernia is a muscle tear and is a completely different thing.
You have reassured me again. I wish to thank you profusely. Im finally next on the surgery list. GODBLESS YOU
You've been visited by the hernia fairy. Leave a like on Alan's video or you will suffer the consequences during your next heavy squat.
I see you everywhere ahhhh
@@danielm1 Check behind you
Getting a hernia is my big fear as a gym athlete lol
It's not a big deal I have a hernia and I've been lifting with it for a year now (I'm 16) I went to the doctor he told me to keep doing what I was doing and if I feel it getting worse then I will go through the operation since then it has been half a year and I still lift as heavy or even heavier then I was without pain really hopefully it won't get worse
It’s honestly not that bad IF you train smart by listening to your body. The biggest changes to my weight lifting has been the volume of core training (no more flutter kicks or any ab work that puts a lot of strain on the lower abdomen), clean and press, jerks, overhead barbell squats are a no go for me as well. I’m still rocking abs, and maintaining my PRs.. it’s just hitting the new PRs are coming slower.
Nathan Maman glad you’ve done well with it! And even if it got worse the surgery isn’t a bad one
natali schmit fair enough!
Im 4 weeks out of surgery for 2 inguinal. I can still feel the areas they put mesh in but it doesnt hurt anymore. And i can do everything i could before, minus a weird pulling sensation in those areas. But that should get better with time. Worst part for me was the IV. I hate needles, everything after that was a breeze. Point being, its really not that bad.
Very interesting vid! Had a hernia on each side... Got an operation for the first one back when I was 3 year old (so 37 years ago) and second one back when I was 24. At that time, I was lifting weights, but not seriously, and was playing badminton competitively (so lots of stop and go, jumping and overstretching, was REALLY painful!). Even then, like Alan, not wanting to lose my progress or stop competing, I kept going for around 3 years before seeking medical attention and did so only when my leg's nerves were so compressed that I felt pain all the way down to my ankle even when sitting down (and because my [then new] girlfriend, who is a doctor, saw my hernia and was like:"WTF?!? Get that hernia fixed ASAP!")! My operation got scheduled right the next week because the surgeon said I let it go pretty bad... My dad also got one, on one side (got an operation 3 years ago and even though he was 67, he got back to lifting heavy like a month after). All in all, I think if you have a weakness in that area, as soon as you move around it's bound to be problematic someday! Still it IS worth seeking medical attention, because once you get it fixed, it almost never comes back and you feel SO much better!
I have had a similar story.
I got one when i was 2 years old on the right side. Got the second one after 18 years on the left. I had 2 surgeries but the left one was the painful, i still get pains when i lift heavyweights.
Should I get mesh? Doc wants to
Scared of mesh
Pain all the time...how bad
@@805SantaBarbara87 Mesh is 100% better than pain... The process is not that painful anyway and after a couple of days the pain should be completly gone! Not to mention that if you don't go with the mesh, there a chance for your intestine to get stuck there and a risk of necrosis afterwards...all of which is pretty dangerous!:-o
My husband and me both do Jujutsu and Muay Thai, and have done for over 15 years, so we are pretty fit and strong. He got an Inguinal Hernia through coughing, yeah coughing took him out. He was talking while eating and and it went down the wrong way, he kept on trying to keep talking even while coughing but gave in and stood up for a drink of water, he kept coughing standing up straight and that's what did it, standing up straight. Just like when you are lifting a weight and turning at the same time you should bend your knees and you also should bend your knees while coughing or sneezing violently. If you don't in both these occasions then you run the risk of a inguinal hernia when coughing or when lifting a weight and turning, you can end up with a herniated disk. Both just a bit more than annoying. If you go for Inguinal Hernia OP, then eat vegetable stew the day before the OP and for a couple of days after, makes going to the toilet a lot more easier initially after the OP, you definitely don't want to be straining in that department for quite a few days after it, that's where most of the pain comes from for the first few days
6.27 like the tables either side ,good set up great how you explain yourself too
I've trained for 2-3 years with my first hernia, did laparascopic surgery. 2 years later i had it from the other side and i couldnt stand it for more than 4-5 months and i did another surgery... First recovery was awful, i literally had blue balls and it hurt a lot when sneezing, coughing. I wasnt able to do pull up or any hanging exercises for 6 months.. Second hernia recovery was great no issues at all. Both times i did not visited the gym for 20 days. Take your time and rest dont rush it. Your deadlift and squat will be back to normal after 3-4 months.
That's why I'm glad I never got hurt going through basic training when I joined the Army. I did not want to do all that stuff again
Things are always bigger and better in America. My scheduled op duration was one hour but 3 hours later I was still being worked on. Had the same op here in the UK and it's taken 2 yrs to fully recover, was bed ridden for a month, nerves accidentally cut and had to wait for nerves to calm down after growing through the mesh. A work colleague , 20 yrs younger than me, had the same procedure at a different hospital next to mine and he lost a lot of blood due to an artery tear. I would only advise getting the op in the UK if the surgeon has a gun to your head.
what type of hernia did you have?
@@OfficialGundem Inguinal
I’m here in the UK and I don’t do doctors or hospitals, I just google through it. ...if I can. No way surgery . I’ve had my inguinal hernia ( not 100% which type if it is one) for a few years now and I’m 60. Like another guy said, I converted from weights to heavy duty resistance bands a couple of years ago, you can totally isolate muscles . Most of my exercises are done with legs close together, knees bent or on my knees, sat or tight squat , also do high intensity short lower body workouts on alternate days . If it bulges slightly i move it back in.
Dude! I got a hernia after 2 weeks of Parris Island. Dr said I had to stop training and have surgery and they pulled me out of training. I did not want to be stuck at PI so I got them to send me back and went back to training from training day 1 with the hernia and had it fixed later.
Get the surgery boys, done it myself and tbh the recovery from the hernia surgery even just a few days after the surgery was less pain than just living with the hernia on a day to day basis prior to surgery .. . .. . . . .
I have had a hernia for about a year. It started pretty small and has gotten bigger over time. I still train five days a week. When it pops out I just push my guts back in.
I'm just waiting for surgery now, but because it is big it will have to be open surgery. The surgical team say about 8 weeks recovery time. However, that doesn't mean no training for two months, but ramp training up slowly and by week eight I should be fully recovered.
Like Alan I don't know what caused my hernia, but my doctor thinks it was either by coughing or sneezing not by weight lifting. Men are very susceptible to hernias.
I have Testical pain, but i have no hernia doctor said But im going to get ultrasounded to make sure cause i still feel discomfort after lifting
@@brownboii9273 How did it go?
@@NeuronActivationwell i have a small hernia on my left side. I stil lift weights but not heavy lifting.
@@brownboii9273 So you aren't gonna have it surgically healed?
@@NeuronActivation well the doctor told me to wait u till im 20, Cause im 16 years old(still growing) i had this hernia since 6th grade sadly
"Alan said I'm good 2 go!"
I had a triple hernia. Double in groin and one near belly button. Didn’t lift for 8 weeks and stayed really light and focused more on stretching my core and strengthening of my core for an additional 4 weeks. That was over 5 years ago and I’m lifting pretty heavy weight now days. Hernias Suck!
Similar experience with a hernia: I had laproscopic surgery with a mesh on an inguinal hernia, was back up and running in about a week and half. I didn't even take pain meds after the 3rd day. I've never had any recurrence of pain or any other symptom in the years since recovery.
Really stupid if true.
I developed a hernia waiting for that story to end. JK. FWIW, I had appendicitis a few years ago with not a lot of training history under my belt. I was newly familiar with Barbell Medicine after going through Starting Strength. In the hospital I searched BBM for what to do. On a forum, a lady had asked the same question from her hospital bed one day before. Neat. Her doctors were telling her the same as mine, don't lift anything for 6 weeks. Baraki responded more or less that she should wait a week, 2 if she felt she needed it and ease back into training. (I'm not quoting word for word so search that post) I waited 10 days and went to gym and worked up to moderate weight for me on squat, bench, deadlift. Just some sets of 5. The only lift that caused discomfort was bench due to stretch while arching my back. I was very grateful I found that post.
Best way to respond to this question!!!💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Lol funny stuff. I've been training with a couple inguenial hernias since 2010, one on each side, and I even started lifting after watching your videos a few years after I discovered them. Think I got mine after I started boxing, but probably occured when I was drunkenly doing one-handed pushups before that. It does suck when I stand or walk for a while, but if I lay on my back and tuck my knees to my chest I can feel them pop back into place and then it's all good temporarily. However I do plan on getting it looked at regardless. It just doesn't interfere with my activities enough for me to be concerned.
Hows the hernia going now?
did you get surgery? am getting imagine tomorrow to determine if that’s the next step for me. how was your recovery?
@@piercebrosnantheactor the name lol. Did you get the surgery?
@@brandonh1133 nope not yet, my surgeon consult told me it wasn't necessary bc my hernia is very small right now (6mm) and the only real need for surgery down the road is if i can't do my normal routine anymore. could be anywhere from 3 months, to 3 years, to never depending upon how it continues to progress
@@piercebrosnantheactor I haven’t either I have a left inguinal. I ran a marathon and am still lifting weights, but I’m waiting for the day it erupts so I don’t lift as hard as I want. Back to my doctor Tuesday as I can feel it most days. More of a nagging hey I’m here thing mine is around 12mm or was when I was seen 6 months ago. Thanks for the reply brother l. Take care.
I had umbilical hernia surgery in January. First week, no activity. Second week, walking. Third week, very light weight. Fourth week, basically back to normal (although Dr. told me to wait 6 weeks). No limitations, and some slight pain (neuropathic) around the incision. I agree with his assessment - not a medical emergency, but if you decide to finally address it, give it the necessary time.
How are you feeling now?
@@Virsidus My surgery was 4 years ago now, but I havent had any recurrences or limitations. I will say that my stomach feels tight right at my belly button when I have decent workouts, and I do get nerve pain type sensations around the area (like a burning, tingling sensation).
@@SkunkyBrew thanks for replying.
Was your hernia large? Also did you get the mesh or just sown?
A doctor told me that if it's very small (5mm in my case) it will have to cut the hernia to make it larger so it can put the mesh in. That kinda scares me. I know the mesh is better and sowing is very likely to open back up, especially if very physically active.
@@Virsidus You know, I dont actually know the size off the top of my head. I did not get mesh. My Doc didnt prefer it in some cases, and in mine Ive had 2 prior surgeries in the area (non hernia). So it was sewn, but he told me he pulled it tight and used a lot of the fascia. I honestly felt like all my skin was pulling right to my belly button and when I went to post op appointment, complaining of the tightness, he explained what I wrote above. To this day, if I push on my belly button area, you can feel the tightness. It kinda feels like there's a double layer there, and I assumed it was from the fascia that he pulled in to reinforce the area.
Im sure Doc's have different philosophies on what they like they do. Ive heard good and bad things about mesh. If that's what your Doc is choosing, Im sure it comes with his experience and your specific hernia.
@@SkunkyBrew I see.
Thank you so much for taking the time to reply!
Everyone else : I stubbed my toe! No lifting for me ...
Alan : I can't treat my Hernia! I got to train.
My friend’s brother was Marine infantry. He developed a hernia during training also. He got surgery but he was forced to resume PT, field training, etc. too quickly and it reoccurred. He ended up having 6 surgeries for the same hernia over his one enlistment. He’s now a 100% disabled vet as he has permanent complications plus probably a few other medical issues. It’s sad to see how many veterans have lifelong, painful disabilities before the age of 30.
Wow did he sue them?
Thanks for this video Marine. I have had a hernia for a year now. I still weight train with a hernia belt and go lighter on the weights. I have to get surgery for it, but I have been a little bit apprehensive about doing it. This puts me a little bit more at ease about the process. Semper Fi!
Thank you. I’m in the his boat now 😠.
I just set the referral up today I’m definitely gonna get it done ASAP. Thanks for this video for real I been mad af about it because I been making so much progress and I don’t wanna lose any of it.
Hernias in young people (under 40) are 99% caused by congenital defects at birth (you are born with a dilated deep inguinal ring, this comes from the patent processus vaginalis not being properly closed when you were a fetus. Just some info for those who think hernias are caused by lifting, even coughing produces much larger intra abdominal pressure than lifting (as proven by multiple studies). Cheers!
This is very convenient, I developed a hernia as well. I don't have insurance so if somethings wrong im screwed. I was hoping it might be something like some hip abductor/flexor thing, but that's unlikely. After a month it still hasn't gotten better. The interesting thing is that I had mild discomfort and then pain on both the left and right side of my groin. Now the left feels fine, mostly, but the right is still jacked. Haven't done anything legs in almost a month. My upper lower split is now just me doing upper and than screwing around in the gym on lower days. Guess I could at least get a checkup.
I'm facing the same thing..you said no legs huh.have you tried acupuncture
I believe your hernia may have been caused by all the yelling one would do in boot camp. I too currently have a hernia, but a hernia specialist told me that its so miniscule that i can lift without restrictions. That was 3 years ago and I still deadlift and farmer walk and front load carry on the regular without discomfort. The only thing that bothers my hernia is prolonged coughing or constant yelling during coaching season. So thats why I guess yelling constantly would cause such an increase in pressure that a hernia could result.
My Mesh repairs lasted 15 years. Needs doing again now.
LOL! That ending! Didn't expect that!
Agree with all said. Laparoscopic surgery is the best... I was back to the gym after 4 days.
Training with a hernia is pure dedication, I respect it
I had an Inguinal Hernia repaired on my right side in 2020 using laparoscopic technique with mesh. The surgery went great, and that side is still ok. 2 weeks ago I think I got one on my left side. There's no bulge, but every morning when I stand up, the first time I cough or clear my throat, I get this painful shifting in my stomach right above my penis, and the adductors in my thigh are really sore all day.. Then, it's just generally sore for the rest of the day. The first Hernia I had was paid for by my employer because it was a work injury, but even though this new Hernia is also a work injury, my employer says I will be fired if I report it because I didn't report it soon enough.
Thanks for sharing your story, Alan. I really appreciated it.
I felt like a burning zip in my leg near the lower abs during leg press and i stoped right away and now i dont have but almost had it i hope it doesnt happen again
Next up, training with herniated disks, after that training with a fused spine.
7:33 Thanks Alan. We all really needed to see that! 😵🤕😬😳
Alan, AthleanX talks about hernias, bent over dumbell rows with knee on bench.
I have had inguinal hernia repairs on both sides. Left side 19 years ago and right side 2 years ago. I am 57 years old and continue to train squat, bench and deadlift for strength and size with no issues what so ever. So don't let it get in your head and don't get noceboed by your doctor. Even when I was in my 30's and jacked as F*ck my doctor freaked out when he heard talk of 2x body weight lifts. He still recommends lifting no more than your body weight...guess I have to gain weight!
Hi sir I have done my inguinal hernia I am age was 15 and now I am 21 I have pain in inguinal open surgery place so I can go to gym after this hernia and I can lift a weight more than 40 kgs please tell us
Another TH-camr won't be happy at this remomendation. We should be fear mongering about pain and injuries, Alan!
Who are you talkin about? :D Athlean X?
Jo Hannes 😂
@@curlean-x4443 Sorry bro, I'm not that mich into american fitness youtube, that was just my first guess :D So if its not him, please tell me :)
@@curlean-x4443 ah wait, I should have read your name xD
how about training with a testicular varicocele? it's extremely widespread but no one talks about it. ever since i got diagnosed with one i have discovered that every gym i went to has at least a handful of members with my same condition
Yep felt that pain. Wouldn't call it widespread; have yet to find another person with one
2 inguinal repairs, don't do mesh! research & find out all the problems with it, painful recovery, 4wks take it easy, 2 yrs later 1 might have recurred :(
yours came back
Gets all sorts of questions about hernias, Answers them. Can we get a beard care video now...
Just had laproscopic repair 5 days ago. Similar story. Thanks for sharing yours. It's day 5 and I feel like I can do some very light machine reps etc. I'm allowed to lift 20 lbs. I'll talk to doc today before I do machines. I've been walking a ton. Very little to no pain. Thanks.
are you back to lifting now?
Anyone Had pain in there Balls after surgery ? I am 3 weeks Post surgery Double Mesh everything feels OK but my Balls Hurt. Kinda scared.
hows the balls
@@janaesaffold2531 there pain free now:)
Thanks for this video. I’m 18 and my doctor said I might have a small hernia and that I need an ultrasound. I was super scared, but now I feel much more hopeful about the situation.
Im 19 bro and I’ve been having these pains on the right side of my groin area and I have a very small lump a little under my bellybutton ( more than likely its a hernia )😂 But im going to get it checked out next Wednesday. I was a little worried at first but its good I caught it early on
How you doing now?
@@kjee5908
Thanks for the medical advice! Looks like I need to buy some mesh on ebay and try this thing out for myself.
Got a inguinal hernia in December 2019. Had op on Jan 7th. Started hitting the weights again 2 weeks later.
How do you feel now since your surgery?
I had that exact same surgery when I was in the Navy. It hurt when I finally started going back to the gym, but now, a few years later, I feel nothing
are you still lifting without any pain or issues?
Also does any of guys still feel the abdominal area of the side of the operation cramps up every now and then after a year or two?
Thank you I was so worried about not being able to train after surgery now to get it done!
Thank you for this information!
I had an inguinal hernia since i was born. Never had an issue with it.. minor pain or discomfort that comes once or twice a year, not a big deal though. i workout, play soccer, lift, train and all was fine..however ive always kept in my mind that a hernia surgery must take place today or tomorrow.. when we age problems start to appear.. 8 months ago i accidently hit my back, doctors run tests and everything and i was told that i have an inguinal hernia and its better to have the surgery.. a week ago i did the open hernia operation with a medical mesh. im 29 now and i belive its the right choice.. you will walk out of the hospital the same or next day of the surgery, you'll have a couple of days of pain and then u'll start to feel much better... you can do almost everything except for carrying weight, thats a red line for 5-8 week.. i'll give it 12 weeks, just in case.
Long story short, if you have a hernia, get that surgery done. Remember when you age problems will appear and what was easy to fix, we'll become harder
how are you doing now a couple years later? im considering open with mesh as well
@@yrewb4171 hey man how are you doing.. i had that mesh surgery 2 years back.. everything is perfect, I got married and have a little boy. however, I experience some itching, and sometimes some minor pain if you work out. i joined the force and we had excessive workouts for months, It feels painful sometimes, especially while doing abs. but there are no side effet. ..I'm cool with that. however, I'm experiencing discomfort recently because of weight. your enemy is weight gaining, it adds more stress to the surgery.. bottom line. DO NEVER GET overweight and you're all fine.., if you're already a skinny dude it should be a plus for you. again your only enemy is weight! from experience. now I'm working on losing weight (I'm +20kg extra weight). get that surgery, workout, and stay healthy, enjoy ur life
@@TouniZino thanks for the reply man, appreciate the advice
I got checked for a hernia but i had no bumbs or anything but my 🍒 felt awkward when lifting weights. Hopefully its nothing bad going down their