That evo funnel catches the indoctrinated and fights hard to keep them. EVILooshun shuns intelligent design from a creator, using lies in the hands and mouths fools. Bible. Psalms 53:1-4 [1](To the chief Musician upon Mahalath, Maschil, A Psalm of David.) The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good. [2]God looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, that did seek God. [3]Every one of them is gone back: they are altogether become filthy; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. [4]Have the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread: they have not called upon God. If they do call with a sincere heart, he promises to answer.
@@slevinchannel7589 I sometimes prefer the more succinct description evil-ablution. Such a crock I wonder how the criminals sold it, but young minds tend to be human sponges I guess. That's what those Jesuit indoctrination experts count on.
@@slevinchannel7589 YEP with a capital Y. ALSO A QUAKZEEN. denier praise I AM THAT I AM. B U T I must qualify that with a "faulcly so called science" denier. Praise God for Dr James Tour on his sound trouncing of the fake professor Dave abiogenesis claims. The whole EVIL-ooshin deck of cards is being blown away with the wind Praise God. A N D I'm L O V I N G I T. It's about time the fakery of evolution theory was put to scrutiny It's a house of cards built from top ( billions of years ago) to bottom (it ALL started with an explosion) on lies from the pit of hell off the pens of Jesuits. It's about time those who've been sucked into the lies to WAKE UP.
From my opinion, the biggest reason that Dr. Tour doesn't have the apologetics numbers of others has more to do with the needs some people have versus the gifts of others. In Buddhism there is a thing called, The Curse of Intellect. It states, in my words, that analytical people will struggle with enlightenment due to their analysis of both the questions and the answers. This falls directly in line what what the Bible says about God's gifts to his followers. In several books of the New Testament we read the Holy Spirit endows us with gifts like faith, healing, prophecy, proclamation, teaching, and others. My mother for instance has the gift of Faith. All the questions I asked her when I was growing up didn't phase her. Nothing about the contradictions I thought I found, or the moral problems, or the impossibility of it all mattered to her in the least. She would shrug her shoulders and just say, "I just know it is true." It shook me from my faith as I learned more. I had to keep learning to eventually come back to Christ. It was a fight to discover the truth, and I wanted the truth so badly. I think there are loads of people like me, who struggle with knowledge, and the questions and answers we wrap around ourselves while trying to understand the universe around us in a logical, consistent way. My mother, my wife, and others I know wouldn't watch 5 minutes of Dr. Tour, but will listen to many hours of apologists who have more love and social centered teaching. None of that moves me, and I won't watch 5 minutes of it. Once I discovered polystrate fossils, I went down the rabbit hole of God's truth and needed more and more. Dr. Tour is near the pinnacle of the search for scientific truth which matches reality versus the guesses we get from so many other "uniformitarian" scientists. This information is not low hanging fruit. I had a couple years where I inhaled deeply in everything Dr. Hovind has put out. Then came Behe, Meyer, Zacharias, Craig, Turek, Lennox, Habermas, with many side roads along the way, like Dr. David Berlinski, an agnostic who suplexes evolution off the top turnbuckle in the funniest and most logical ways. I think Dr. Tour gets fewer views than his testimony deserves because so few of us as striving for this kind of knowledge. This is the tip of the spear kind of info and not everyone wants to go here and be rapt by this information. I wish I had my mom's gift of Faith, but God gave me this gift and I fill it up by consuming the works of those men and more, so that I may pour it out when given the chance.
@@alanmcnaughton3628 'the evo funnel (wtf?) catches the indoctrinated and fights hard to keep them' Um.. that's religion, remember? Remember how certain religions make it a point to 'get them when they're young', then fights hard to keep them? Yeah, you have described religion, not science. Science doesn't work that way. Biological evolution is not forced on anyone. It's taught in public schools in the exact same way other areas of science are taught. You have problems with it, because it conflicts with some of your personal beliefs, so I can understand why you would think the way you do. There are no churches of evolution, there are no preachers or priests of evolution, and if you have problems with evolutionary theory, or any other area of science, then get yourself a relevant education and get to work. Science is not about 'proving' things, science is about falsifying, and since biological evolution is definitely falsifiable, well, there you go :-) get your data and evidence together and start falsifying.
Being sciences based - Dr. Tour, you are one of the voices that truly helped me "un-stiffen" my neck and seek the Lord as Savior - thank you! I learn something every time I hear you speak even if just life perspective. I continue to be in awe of that high-school "science teacher" who critiqued you and shudder at the reality of garbage taught to our young by "the confused" operating the education system. May we all pray for an awakening.
It amazed me how ALL the UNASSUMED OBSERVATIONAL EVIDENCE...the REAL EVIDENCE.. matches EVERYTHING Christianity teaches. Only FAITH-FILLED STATEMENTS made ABOUT the evidence is given as "evidence" by silly atheists. Two Chromosomes CAN'T ACCIDENTALLY COMBINE as the ridiculous BELIEVERS in evolution try to sucker us into BELIEVING. CAN'T HAPPEN...and yet it is taught and assumed as "fact". That is the scientific equivalent to telling everyone that Thor causes lightning and thunder by his hammer! Ther is ZERO EVIDENCE of this insane statement...and ZERO EVIDENCEthat Chromosomes can combine to form a new species...yet the naturalists BELIEVE in an assumption with even LESS EVIDENCE!! How Silly to ASSUME despite the EVIDENCE TO THE OPPOSITE. Similarly, DNA CODE CAN'T SELF-CREATE and SELF-ASSEMBLE into cells as Dr. TOUR EXPOSES in his science. Poor naturalists actually BELIEVE in IMPOSSIBILITIES rather than dare to allow their emotional neediness for a Godless universe to be challenged by OBSERVATIONAL REALITY! Atheists WILLFULLY IGNORE facts that offend their emotional need to be non-created. It's so obvious once you stop ACCEPTING what BIASED SCIENTISTS say by FAITH ALONE...and grow a skeptical attitude! "I have never seen the Bible conflict with a scientific fact" either. Never! These silly liars keep saying "FACT" when it is their BIASED ASSUMPTION!!! NOTHING in science discredits anything in the Bible. Atheist Scientists merely want you to enjoin their delusions that there "must be". The MORE I learn of scientific evidence, the more I realize the Bible is true!
Well" I know GOD's right, he's never been wrong, and he's never going to be wrong, and he never mentions to me in his word anything about millions of years, so I believe him.
@@rocko100able Pizza is never mentioned in the bible. Quantum mechanics? Netflix? Superman? Bengal tigers? It appears that a lot of stuff that is real and exists is not mentioned in the bible. Those people back in the day were also not all that much into the scientific method, either. That's probably something important to keep in mind.
@@travisbicklepopsicle The Bible states that God is the creator of all, He knows all, and is all powerful and eternal...the Bible states God knew about all those things you mentioned, much much more and the things to come.
I love Dr Tour as a brother. How can this be? He is my brother..in Jesus. Thank you for stepping forward in faith. And speaking out. I met a nuclear physicist who was afraid for his bible believing faith causing problems for him. Brother Tour encourages the rest of us.
I've seen dr. Tour in a lot of different debate situations, but the few minutes of his personal testimony at the start of this video was some of the most powerful stuff I've ever seen him say. I wish he would share his human side a little bit more, it's very impactful and reaches people in a way that molecular science language might not all the time. Bless this man.
I love how he breaks things down in pieces so even the most complicated things make sense. It takes very high intelligence to communicate so well. Love his videos. No nonsense
Yes. And not just intelligence, but talent. I know of people who are very smart, but just cannot break a concept or explanation down to a point that someone outside the field (or even the organization) would be able to understand it. Tour does such a good job breaking this down, that I can have some idea what is going on, having never taken ANY chemistry class ever.
James Tour is such a needed blessing in these times of deception. I also want to give him props for giving disclaimers and not going into areas that he's not versed in. As much as I want to hear his thoughts on those topics, I recognize that this forces the avenues of attacks on his abilities on a topic he knows profoundly.
@@derhafi Hi Rob, I think your claim is unreasonable. You use ad hominem. You attack his character. You call him a fraud and a liar with no scientific integrity. However, it is clear that James is one of the most accomplished scientists in the world with well over 500 research publications, a PhD and outstanding awards in his field. Even if you disagree with what he says, you cannot discredit his scientific integrity. And I think it is low to attack his character because of it.
@@derhafi LOL at U ,science has no clue how Abiogenesis started: intelligent scientists running controlled experiments isn't the same as random processes by an unintelligent cause !
Me (in my heart): I've read the bible cover to cover more than thrice. I'm awesome. Dr. Tour (encouraging us to faithfulness and scripture): I've read the bible everyday since 1977/ Me: (Jaw drop, mind blown)
Love it, the Bible says seek me and you will find me, but it’s so beautiful when he finds you, great encounter with Jesus , I had mine since I was 12 and never have I been the same.
They cannot even create a prokaryote cyanobacteria and having studied Organic Chemistry to get my degrees in biology I'd say they never will. There are over one million+ Carbon compounds many only life can make. Where did a bacteria that just pops up in the fossil record get the information to do that from? The alga knew how to do photosynthesis and for over a billion years created the oxygen cycle.
@@MountainFisher How do evolutionary biologists explain the nitrogen cycle? As I understand it, without nitrogen fixing bacteria, plants can't utilize naturally ocurring forms of nitrogen. There is a lot that I don't understand about microbiology, I've heard James True say that the more that is known, the more questions the researchers have.
Being a Christian all of my life and was a Bio major in college. I saw how my Professors and the whole Science community just blasphemes our lord. But me always believing in science and being a Christian it was very hard to try and just ignore certain thing’s about biology /chemistry I knew were true. So seeing well respected scientists who have a strong faith is absolutely incredible
But from this video alone you can see that his arguments don't hold up to scrutiny and are arguments of incredulity and ignorance on the subject matter. The problems that originate from biology against the bible are as much philosophical as they are literal and those facts strongly refute the god described by the bible.
Dr. Tour, thank you so much for your heartfelt and very moving testimony concerning your experience of encountering Jesus. I, myself, had a similar life-changing experience and so have many others I know. May the Lord continue to bless you!
I've had the same experience and want to ask was there a golden light that outshined any other light. Knowing is better than believing. But why me. And my son had a similar experience.
@@derhafi nobody is getting out of here alive including you. Maybe tomorrow. Just remember to ask him either I'm lieing or not. What's my motivation for lieing having met Jesus in person lieing is a sin. And while it may mean nothing to you if you experienced what I did lieing is something I can never do again. And I don't give a crap what anybody thinks of me including you. Except dogs I want dogs to like me.
@@derhafi I wonder why when I give a testimony of what happened to me. And many other people have experienced the same thing. Why I'm never asked how. What was I doing how can I experience the same thing. I can only imagine your afraid or being minipulated by something blinding you from even thinking of the question. Hopefully someday you will become brave enough to try instead of being a little scared child.
Hi guys, loved the interview. God bless all that you are doing. I could say more but I'll just say Hail Purdue! I'm a '85 grad of Purdue AAE went to church with Jim at Upper Room and was in his home group. I learned so much from those years, set a good foundation.
I love James Tour! I believe he tells the truth. But I would not describe him as humble! Though he sometimes goes over board when deacribing others work as stupid or not having a clue. He needs to specify what they don't have a clue about.
@@edschaefer6597 Nothing special. Some people are angry because James Tour called abiogenesis a joke. He has challenged the proponents of primordial soup model to create a living cell from from non-living matter.
I appreciate very much your discussion. You make ordinary people like me understand science more in light of Bible truths. I watched Prof. Walter Veith's presentations on this topic and I am amazed how similar your views are in this regard.
Your honesty is beyond refreshing! So many folks in science and academia seem to be driven by ambition or pushing som sort of narrative. You sir, bring it back to its origins...the honest pursuit of understanding God's physical creation!
I think the Magnitude of the difficulty of the challenge demonstrates How Great God's knowledge and Power Is!! It is amazing how difficult and complicated the challenge of Life is!!
I've read Dr. Schroeder a bit and it's rather interesting that Dr. Tour brings him up. In one of his books, Dr. Schroeder postulates life could have began with the precursor to homo sapiens with the neshama? or Hebrew for breath of life? I would have to reread the book. The math of Genesis days was interesting as well. The book was "The Science of God."
Eh. Smacks of “Piltdown Peat” and his foul “Omega Point” mockery of Logos. ANATHEMA. The best argument for some of the conventional science paradigm within a Christian paradigm, is that Genesis is plausibly ambiguous about the universe as a WHOLE. We could have both an Old universe and a young earth. It’s also possible that the earth is in a middle age, depending on how you interpret “YM”, neither VERY old nor very young (millions but not billions). I leant that way for a long time, but my growing trust in the Desert Fathers has made me more open to younger, although I still think it’s at least 100,000s of years.
Something very interesting I noticed between the story of Moses with the Pharoah’s magicians and the statement where scientists say they can re-create life. The magicians challenged Moses to perform a miracle, so they performed tricks and black magic and spells (we don’t really know it’s just trickery from what I understand) to make little fake snakes and the crowd was astonished. Moses didn’t know what to do ,When God told Moses (Prophet Moussa pbuh) to hit his staff on the ground and it turned into a giant serpent and gobbled up the rest of the “snakes”. The magicians immediately confessed that they believe Moses’ God. I interpret this as there’s no substitute for God’s creation. God made the miracle to create that serpent from Moses’ staff, but the magicians used deceit and tricked to construe our eyes and minds. That serpent is akin to biology or cells. You can have the best scientists in the world try as hard as they can to get close to the chemical reactions and information and complexity of the cell and they wouldn’t come close. It’s all a bluff. They can only trick you into thinking they’ve solved abiogenesis (if it did happen) but there’s no substitute for the real cell. And to think that it’s the simplest of life that can possibly occur is astonishing. We must praise God for beautiful creation that we’re still just beginning to understand. We can only marvel
James Tour! Thank you for not regretting your "signature" 20 years ago. You have taken a strong offensive position, and your confidence inspires my faith. But even more, I love your testimony about your love for Jesus!
@@derhafi Rob Davis, You are just popping off. Try to be more objective and maybe you will become more in touch with reality. There is no evidence for the evolution of life from non-life.
@@derhafi Evolution is made up. Consider the possibility that you are deluded. Look into things further. I doubt that you have actually listened or read what Tour and others of his sort have produced. Be honest.
Tour didn’t realise Jesus was Jewish? What a load of piffle . Tour has to lie in order to try and protect his Christian worldview which makes it impossible to believe anything he says .
My faith has been encouraged over many years by scientists like Dr Tour. Your analysis is excellent. As a Purdue alum I'm proud of the scope of your comments.
Two of my favorite educators in history of Science are Dr. Terry Mortenson and Dr. Philip Stott.... Dr. James Tour is a great scientist educator for christian actual apologetics...awesome conversation......
Dr. James, I am a Catholic Priest and listening to you leads me to invite you into John 6:48-65. I can see how you love Jesus and Sacred Scripture. You know chemistry and would like you meditate on the passage I suggest. The bread becomes flesh and the wine becomes blood during consacration at Holy Mass or the Holy Eucharist. Ricardo Castañon is a scientist and demonstrates how the Holy Eucharist is Christ Himself. What do you think? I would love you become Catholic and receive in you the same God, the same Jesus.
Dr. Tour, I just conducted a Jewish evangelism seminar at our church, and trained our people in the importance of reaching Jewish people with the Gospel of the Messiah. It would have been nice to have you contribute. Your work is fabulous. As far as the age of the earth, God settled the interpretation of Gen 1 when He spoke again in Exodus 20:11: "For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day." That communication to Israel makes no sense outside of a one-week creation. Amen.
@@derhafi One minute he doesn't know how to create life in the lab, then he thinks it might be a possibility in the future, then he says it's absolutely impossible. This guy is all over the show and just cherrypicks whatever suits his agenda AND makes a huge argument from ignorance and incredulity, "I don't know how life could've originated naturally therefore god". He's a god damn joke.
@@travisbicklepopsicle Because if creation happened in 6 days that means men and dinosaurs lived contemporaneously. The age of earth is the same as the age of humans. Also the bible records continuous events and genealogies up to the time of Abraham.
I saw the Jewish brother on one for Israel. What a blessing. I love it when Jews find who the true Messiah is. I have a doctor, I heard his daughter had died suddenly. I gave my condolences to him during a visit.I felt a burden for him, he said his wife just holds his hand and cries. I said to him have you got any spiritual counselling?? He said to me David we are Jewish? So I called up people I know at Jews for Jesus in Toronto Canada. They sent me a book of Doctors who found Messiah and their testimonials. I gave him the book to Dr. Lax. Next time I came to see him he said was it you who gave me the book? I said yes. He said thank you, but do not proselytize me?? Kind of with a bit of anger. Anyways please pray for him and his wife and family. Dr. Lax Timmins Ontario Canada
Dr Tour, please consider the idea Genesis 2 is a flashback to day 6 of creation, to give more details of the creation of people as summarized at the end of chapter 1. Genesis 3 begins recording events happening after day 7. Maybe this can help you make better sense of the origins history record in our Bibles.
Yep. And I would simply add this..."By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible." "But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him."
Dr. Tour's transparency that he does know how old the earth is or how old the universe is...was just refreshing. "I don't know how to vet that." Refreshing honesty. We need this kind of credibile communication.
Modern Quantum Physics has shown that reality is based on probability: A statistical impossibility is defined as “a probability that is so low as to not be worthy of mentioning. Sometimes it is quoted as 1/10^50 although the cutoff is inherently arbitrary. Although not truly impossible the probability is low enough so as to not bear mention in a Rational, Reasonable argument." The probability of finding one particular atom out of all of the atoms in the universe has been estimated to be 1/10^80. The probability of just one (1) functional 150 amino acid protein chain forming by chance is 1/10^164. It has been calculated that the probability of DNA forming by chance is 1/10^119,000. The probability of random chance protein-protein linkages in a cell is 1/10^79,000,000,000. Based on just these three cellular components, it would be far more Rational and Reasonable to conclude that the cell was not formed by un-directed random natural processes. Note: Abiogenesis Hypothesis posits that un-directed random natural processes, i.e. random chance formation, of molecules led to living organisms. Natural selection has no effect on individual atoms and molecules on the micro scale in a prebiotic environment. (*For reference, peptides/proteins can vary in size from 3 amino acid chains to 34,000 amino acid chains. Some scientists consider 300-400 amino acid protein chains to be the average size. There are 42,000,000 protein molecules in just one (1) simple cell, each protein requiring precise assembly. There are approx. 30,000,000,000,000 cells in the human body.) Of all the physical laws and constants, just the Cosmological Constant alone is tuned to a level of 1/10^120; not to mention the fine-tuning of the Mass-Energy distribution of early universe which is 1/10^10^123. Therefore, in the fine-tuning argument, it would be more Rational and Reasonable to conclude that the multi-verse is not the correct answer. On the other hand, it has been scientifically proven numerous times that Consciousness does indeed collapse the wave function to cause information waves of probability/potentiality to become particle/matter with 1/1 probability. A rational and reasonable person could therefore conclude that the answer is consciousness. A "Miracle" is considered to be an event with a probability of occurrence of 1/10^6. Abiogenesis, RNA World Hypothesis, and Multiverse would all far, far, far exceed any "Miracle". Yet, these extremely irrational and unreasonable hypotheses are what some of the world’s top scientists ‘must’ believe in because of a prior commitment to a strictly arbitrary, subjective, biased, narrow, limiting, materialistic ideology / worldview.
Every idea, number, concept, thought, theory, mathematical equation, abstraction, qualia, etc. existing within and expressed by anyone is "Immaterial" or "Non-material". The very idea or concept of "Materialism" is an immaterial entity and by it's own definition does not exist. Modern science seems to be stuck in archaic, subjective, biased, incomplete ideologies that have inadequately attempted to define the "nature of reality" or the "reality of nature" for millennia. A Paradigm Shift in ‘Science’ is needed for humanity to advance. A major part of this Science Paradigm Shift would be the formal acknowledgment by the scientific community of the existence of "Immaterial" or "Non-material" entities as verified and confirmed by observation of the universe and discoveries in Quantum Physics.)
*_“All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind (i.e. Observer). This mind is the matrix of all matter.”_* Max Plank (the Father of Quantum Physics) ... Information doesn't create the cosmos. Information waves are the fabric of the cosmos. And, as demonstrated with the famous double slit experiment, a conscious observer converts those information waves of potentiality / probability into "particle", "matter", or "cosmos". The Prime Observer creates the Cosmos. *Matter cannot exist without physical laws and constants first existing. Physical laws and constants cannot exist without mind / consciousness / intelligence first existing. Mind / consciousness / intelligence is Prime. Consciousness / Intelligence Exists Before Matter. Mind Over Matter.* *_"An especially unusual version of the observer effect occurs in quantum mechanics, as best demonstrated by the double-slit experiment. Physicists have found that even passive observation of quantum phenomena (by changing the test apparatus and passively "ruling out" all but one possibility) can actually change the measured result. Despite the "observer" in this experiment being an electronic detector-possibly due to the assumption that the word "observer" implies a person-its results have led to the popular belief that a conscious mind can directly affect reality.[3] The need for the "observer" to be conscious is not supported by scientific research, and has been pointed out as a misconception rooted in a poor understanding of the quantum wave function ψ and the quantum measurement process, apparently being the generation of information at its most basic level that produces the effect."_* (Wikipedia: Observer Effect) *An electronic detector is a tool created by and for a conscious observer. Without a conscious observer, the electronic detector, its parameter settings, and its measurements do not exist. The electronic detector becomes an extension of the conscious observer. In the same way, a telescope and microscope are merely extensions of the conscious observer. However, it is the the Conscious Observer that is fundamental.* Laws of the Universe exist Independent of anyone's personal beliefs in the existence of the Laws of the Universe. Just as man-made laws govern society globally, Universal Laws govern the entire Universe. Un-directed random material natural processes have never been observed or experimentally demonstrated to be capable of producing any form of laws. As scientifically confirmed, non-material laws are the product of only Mind / Consciousness / Intelligence.
//A major part of this Science Paradigm Shift would be the formal acknowledgment by the scientific community of the existence of "Immaterial" or "Non-material" entities as verified and confirmed by observation of the universe and discoveries in Quantum Physics.// Everything observed within the universe along with Quantum Physics is natural. How can we work with the non-material in our models? You have to demonstrate the "supernatural" and science can't detect it.
Dr Tour, have you considered the concept and method in the Bible known as "Repeat and Enlarge"? I think you will understand Genesis 1 and 2 if you look closer. This method is used throughout the Bible. "We cannot critique ancient, eastern texts using principles of literary analysis based upon modern, western literature. Instead, the approach in ancient Hebrew literature is to take up a topic and develop it from a particular perspective and then to stop and take up the same theme again from another point of view. This pattern is kaleidoscopic and recursive. The first creation story (1:1-2:3) gives a global perspective. The second creation story (2:4-3:24) begins by focusing on the creation of man. Thus the first focuses on the origin of the universe, the second on humanity. Therefore, 2:4-3:24 is, in fact, devoted to further development of the topics broached in the sixth paragraph of the ‘first account’ and so adds to the significance of the creation of mankind."
Can you see dark matter or see the stuff of dark holes? Can you see your own intelligence or personality? Or is it only the response of those two invisible elements as you respond to stimuli? The materialist has a lot of unanswerable questions and if he is honest, many unsolvable proofs that he cannot actually live consistently with his worldview.
@@aue82a People need faith, science in denial could bring us on the verge of total collapse as a society. That what I meant. If you personally don’t need it, it doesn’t mean that the others feel the same. Modern science’s turned into some kind of a sectarian organisation with its own inquisition and torture chambers, where those who don’t support the base line are kept and pilloried. Scientists became some sort of calculators and lost spirituality, probably, that is why we’re having such crisis in science now. Look at Newton, he was a believer.
Was thrilled to hear Dr. Tour mention Gerald Schroeder. I've been trying to find someone to give feedback on Schroeder's theory (which makes a load of sense to me) but haven't found anyone actually dealing with it. The relativity of time coupled with entropy seem too almost fit too perfectly with the Bible.
Dr. James Tour, thank you so much for being so humble, bold, and honest at the same time. I learn so much every time I see your videos... may God bless you and keep you safe 😊🙏🏼
Thank You Dr James Tour and Dr Corey Miller. Well, God created the material world by His powerful word. Everything we see in the universe is the spoken word of God. When God speaks, things come into existence. Night stars, the energy from the sun to the earth The food we eat and the water we drink come from the Word of God. Only God can create and translate His word into action. The invisible world or the information world comes into existence by the power of God
Out of the nearly 8 billion people on this planet and the millions that have gone before NOT ONE PERSON knows exactly what existed or occurred prior to the Big Bang or the Planck Epoch to be more specific. If anyone claims that they do know then they are deluded or are being dishonest, probably both. In saying that, it is almost infinitely more LIKELY that the universe originated naturally and wasn't poofed into existence by some omnipotent entity from another dimension. Nature my friend, not gods.
Vision of the dead earth and Universe before the Resurrection of the Dead and Our Lord's dictation given to Maria Valtorta on 1/29/1944 (from Notebooks 1944, pp.118-119, 122-123): An immense expanse of land. As boundless as a sea. I say "land" because there is earth, as on fields and roads. But there is not one tree, stem, or blade of grass. Dust, dust, and more dust. I see this in a light which is not light. A barely outlined, leaden brightness of a green-violet hue as is seen at the time of a very heavy thunderstorm or a total eclipse. A light, prompting fear, of burnt-out stars. That's it. The sky is devoid of stars. There are no stars, no moon, no sun. The sky is empty, as the earth is empty. The former is stripped of its flowers of light; the latter, of its plant and animal life. They are two vast remains of what was. I think this desolate vision of the death of the universe is the same as at the first moment (Genesis 1:1-2), when heaven and earth already existed, but the former was devoid of stars and the latter deprived of life --a solidified globe, but still uninhabited, flying through space, waiting for the Creator's finger to give it grass and animals.
Jesus, Our Lord, says: "When time is over and life is to be exclusively Life in the Heavens, the universe will again become as it was at the beginning (of creation), before being dissolved completely. This will take place when I have judged (Last Judgement). That is why you saw the earth devoid of grass and trees, animals, men, and life, and the oceans devoid of sails, an expanse of still waters, for movement will no longer be necessary for them to give life to the fish of the waters, as warmth will no longer be necessary for the earth to give life to crops and beings. That is why you saw the firmament empty of stars, with no more fires, no more lights. Light and heat will no longer be necessary for the earth, now an enormous cadaver bearing in itself the dead bodies of all the living from Adam until the last son of Adam." From Our Lord's dictation, we understand that the stars and galaxies were created for men living on the earth and that the earth is not just a small planet among billions of billions stars and planets but was created to provide a good living environment for men as well as plants and animals and all living things. After the Last Judgement, all the Redeemed, with their glorified bodies, will enter the Heavenly Kingdom to be with God. Then, the physical worlds and time we know will be no more and only two Kingdoms, Heaven and Hell, will remain for eternity. From this, it can be inferred that God's purpose, in creating 'Heaven and earth and all things visible and invisible' and man in His Image and Likeness in the beginning of the time, was to establish His Family in Heaven. How greatly we should praise and thank and love God for His Infinite Love!!! Blessed be God forever, Blessed be God forever, Blessed be God forever!!!
@@hyeminkwun9523 Interesting story. Most likely not true. The earth is just a speck in an immense, possibly infinite universe. We are special but not as special as you wish to believe I'm afraid.
@@hyeminkwun9523 We will know the truth after we die right? Have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe, you maybe in a death cult? It sure seems like it to me.
Dr Tour, just discovered your channel here. Science of today most definitely is 180 degrees from the scripture in nearly every aspect. I love the work that you're doing here and have the upmost respect to anyone who goes against main stream narrative...especially someone of your credentials. I was wondering tho, what are your thoughts on biblical cosmology? Have you ever spoke to anyone (expert) on the subject? Scriptures do not depict a spinning ball earth in an infinite vacuum...its the polar opposite! It says in multiple versus that the earth is fixed, established, stationary, built on pillars, has 4 corners, etc... I guess my question to you is, do you trust what the Bible actually says about the cosmology of our realm, or do you take a different stance? Or, would you be open to discussion with subject experts? I truly do believe this would take your studies to the next level if you kept an open mind. Most Christians truly dont believe their Bible...and this subject is proof of it imo.
"the earth is fixed, established, stationary, built on pillars, has 4 corners, etc..." There is a lot of potential meanings of those words and the most likely is that it coveys something about the earth and our relationship to God but not about the physical planet on which we live. It is easy to verify the earth is a sphere using math and observations from space, also airplanes fly over the entire globe and back to where they started. So if the earth doesn't have 4 literal corners and it is meant to convey something different, those other statements might also tell us different that first assumed. if you want to get technical the earth can be fixed in the sense that nothing will move it from the place God put it (in orbit around our star). established can mean a lot of things. Stationary certainly doesn't mean the earth never moves because we have earthquakes, but it mostly doesn't seem to move relative to us. Built on pillars might refer to the laws of physics that hold this planet in its place in the universe, they aren't physical pillars but the effects are the same. Its possible the bible is correct in everything it says and we don't understand what it really says. The bible leaves very little ambiguous when it comes to things that really matter such as our relationship to God and how to be reconciled to him. But after that it becomes less clear on topics and simply never brings up some things. I trust God will reveal to us when we are with him how it all worked, but in the mean time we are all probably wrong on something and it doesn't really matter because we know that only thing we really need to know.
@@lexpox329 you have a lot to learn... I used to believe everything you just said here. Then i went out and tested these things. The Bible is right....the earth is NOT a spinning ball in an ever expanding universe....its a level horizontal plane...a closed system. Before you dismiss this and try to argue for the heliocentric model of the earth, you might want to look into True Biblical cosmology. I can give you over 200 scriptures to back up a geocentric stationary level plane. The bible is a flat earth book from cover to cover...and the earth is flat...and i can bring forth the scientific evidence for that if anyone here wants to actually learn something. Remember, condemnation before investigation is the height of all ignorance...go research flat earth (True earth) before you try to argue with me...because i promise i know more about the heliocentric model (sun centered spinning ball earth) than 99.99% do...as Ive been studying it religiously for the past 5.5 years
Sie haben vollkommen Recht.Die Bibel ist kein naturwissenschaftliches Lehrbuch.Die Bibel ist für das Seelenheil des Menschen geschrieben und soll uns aber nicht die Quantenphysik erklären.Ich schätze Prof.Tour sehr,aber er soll sich nicht in eine Sackgasse manövrieren lassen.Entschuldigung das ich nicht in englisch schreibe,aber och habe bisher kein Übersetzungsprogramm gefunden das korrekt übersetzt.
James, you have to get ahold of Jonathan Sarfati's book: Refuting Compromise. He has a Ph.D. in physical chemistry so I think you'll enjoy his detailed methodological approach. I guarantee the Genesis 1 -2 blurr will become clear by the time you're done reading
If someone says your baby is really a dolly, don't throw her or him out with the bath water straight away, without making sure they're not mistaken. Great (apparent) confidence is an excellent cloak for very effective deceit.
Wow Dr Tour, that was like a Paul thing. God had big plans for you! I know so many Mormons, I only wish I could get through to them about the Real Jesus.
Dr Tour, Could you envision the "whirling wheels" of Ezk 1 & 10 as a kind of gyroscope? Eyes are sensors. A creature that moved at the speed of lightning (200,000mph) would need unrivalled stability & situational awareness (eyes). The computing power & math needs would be confounding. I love your testimoney Dr Tour. I love Jesus, and His work in your life is encouraging to the restof us. May God continue to bless you.
I like the understanding that there are no contradiction between science “fact” and the Bible. There are plenty of contradictions between scientific theory and biblical interpretations.
Yep. Science has disproved claim after biblical claim, exposing it all as the rambling nonsense of ignorant superstitious barbaric bronze-age goatherrders. It's an embarrassment to humanity that people persist in believing such obvious nonsense.
what gets me is -How is it that the best intelligent scientist cant create life with the knowledge and intelligence and mind they have but they believe life was created randomly without intelligence. How does that make sense?
@@tomyossarian7681 Either life can be created or it can't be created. There is no "in between" experiment. There is no rightful claim to anything by saying "we almost have it figured out". Either life can be created or it can't be created is all that counts. Regardless of vast amounts of research, any conclusion will be simply YES or NO. What James Tour does is to highlight how solid the *NO* conclusion remains.
Good take on the Miller-Urey experiments and other OOL research. All they have been able to demonstrate convincingly is that intelligent agents who design their experiments carefully and control the reaction environments of their chemicals painstakingly can produce precursors of the organic chemicals that make up living cells. Bravo.
If scientists Can not create the minimum material thing how evolutionists pretend the nature create it self without brain in it? Not any brain Can do it, but a supernatural brain. I do not believe that scientist can do that now and never, life is an exclusive atribute of God.
I asked GPT to give an unbiased view of this video from the transcript: The statement by James Tour presents a detailed and critical perspective on the challenges of explaining the origin of life from a synthetic organic chemistry standpoint. Tour's argument centers on the complexity of synthesizing the basic molecular components required for life and the even greater challenge of assembling these components into a functioning biological system, such as the simplest bacterium. His emphasis on the role of synthetic organic chemistry in understanding the prebiotic synthesis of life's building blocks is rooted in his expertise in the field. Tour points out several critical challenges: - The difficulty of synthesizing the four basic classes of molecules (nucleic acids, proteins, carbohydrates, lipids) under prebiotic conditions. - The complexity of assembling these molecules into a functioning cell, even if all the necessary components were available. - The chiral nature of biological molecules, which adds another layer of complexity to their synthesis. - The degradation of organic molecules over time, which challenges the notion that time alone could facilitate the spontaneous assembly of life's building blocks. His critique extends beyond the scientific challenges to the implications of the perceived gap between public understanding and the current state of origin of life research. He suggests that overly optimistic portrayals of our understanding of life's origins can lead to public mistrust in science. From an unbiased and objective standpoint, Tour's argument highlights significant and real challenges in origin of life research. His emphasis on the complexity of synthetic organic chemistry in relation to the origin of life is valid and underscores the interdisciplinary nature of the problem. However, it's important to note that the field of origin of life research is inherently interdisciplinary, involving not just synthetic organic chemistry, but also evolutionary biology, planetary science, and other fields. Researchers in these areas contribute different perspectives and methodologies to address the questions Tour raises. While Tour's critique is based on current scientific understanding and the limitations of synthetic chemistry, it's also important to recognize that science is a progressively refining process. What is not understood or achievable today may become clearer with future discoveries and technological advances. The origin of life is a deeply complex question that remains one of the biggest scientific challenges, and ongoing research continues to explore potential pathways that might bridge the gap between non-living chemistry and living systems.
Hello Dr Tour, Romans 5:13 isn't talking about the Edenic law but rather the Mosaic law, that's why the next verse says "death reigned from Adam to Moses". Adam and Eve are the original parents of all humans. Anyways, you're a great inspiration to myself and many others. Thanks for your dedication to the Lord.
Exactly. Not sure why he went off the deep end there, pretending Adam and Eve weren't the ones mentioned in Genesis 1... WLC believes something similar to mankind somehow having a separate branch from Adam and Eve, but the Bible says Eve is the mother of all living. These big brains seem to be letting ever changing Science speak for scripture...
'Adam and Eve are the original parents of all humans' Huh?.. there were no 'first two humans'. Why would you think that is fact, when all data and evidence from the real world clearly demonstrates otherwise? You can be a Christian without being a science and reality denier.
@@travisbicklepopsicle You are the science and reality denier if you actually believe a population of dumb nontalking animals evolved and became talking human beings.
As an atheist NDErs I absolutely understand the love he feels for Jesus, not only I understand but I share his love, my experience was with Jesus and truly I tell you that the love Jesus have for as all is unconditional and extremely difficult to explain because is a never ending experience, is amazing, blessings Dr, you’re an amazing person and believer!, be love and be blessed
@@truthbebold4009 thank you for your question, I’ve been an atheist for 53 years of my life, born and race in a communist country the only God was the government or else!, I knew nothing about religion nor I ever care for it, God and Jesus and heaven was nothing more than a joke to me until my NDE about three years ago, and religion today still something foreign to me and after my NDE I’m 100% sure that I’ll never be a religious person, so I don’t know exactly where I stand when it come to your question
(1). Science just means 'knowledge'. is there any knowledge contradict the bible? The answer is 'yes'. The following is one example. (2). The nicene creed tells us that God is three persons of the father, jesus and the holy ghost. Whilst, jesus say in john17:3 that only the father is god and only the father is true god.
It may be a CHILDs SUNDAY SCHOOL SONG, but as a 63 year old Christian "I truely have THE JOY, JOY, JOY , JOY DOWN IN MY HEART. ITS DOWN IN MY HEART TO STAY"!!! I teach high school Science at a Christian High school and I have the JOY of teaching Christian young people every day!! With the help of Jesus, I try to show my students the HEART of JESUS!! I agree with Dr. Tour Science doesn't conflict with GOD WHATSOEVER!!! I am an OLD EARTH CHRISTIAN BTW because I was completing my PhD in PHYSICS at Purdue University ONE BUILDING OVER FROM DR. TOUR!!
@@myworshipresources quite possibly, but at least I am living in a real world, devoid of magic, dealing with stuff on my own two feet, and not willing to suffer the proselytizing BS that emanates from a fanatic
This was the great problem in my college career. I was good at science and I could have earned a degree in biology. However, the evolutionists attacked me so viciously that I turned to the humanities.This was in 1970. The same thing happened in my other science courses like physics and chemistry. Science is just as dogmatic as religion ,if not more so. I was so alone back then because there was a great turning away from the Lord. The new design theory represents the veiw that I held at the the and still hold with conviction.
Re: "Science is just as dogmatic as religion ,if not more so." *dogma* /ˈdɒɡmə/ _noun_ a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true. "If you want the bible to map onto science, you are gonna have a hard time, cos science changes every few decades." [Dr James Tour] Oh dear, did Jamie Tour debunk you, _before_ you made that dumbass comment?
As an ex-atheist (I was 8 years old when I became an atheist) and a former believer in Darwinian evolutionary biology and Charles Lyell's uniformitarian explanation for geology and topography, I have no issue in taking Genesis as a plain book of history, that God created the universe and the earth in six days and resting on the seventh.
@@timothywilliams8530 ...both the materialistic and creation face the 'impossible' tag. But we have a universe before and we live on a world that defies impossible. So weak the question relating to origins and we can look at the problem in afew ways, notably that the universe is too big and complex right down to the small things like DNA and ATP Synthesis and this couldn't come from nothing or even a highly compressed ball. That would be 'shear dumb luck' to quote the agnostic David Berlinski. Then there is The Creator, eternal and isn't dependent on the material universe as we know it, which at least looks to be designed even down to small details like DNA and ATP synthesis.
@@timothywilliams8530 .....there is a good reason why catastrophism has been uneasily adopted into geology. We see it and it works. Those who always believed in Genesis had no problems with catastrophic fluvial geology from the outset.
Atheists always tend to believe that by answering “how” they have automatically rendered *why* meaningless. But that’s like saying, explaining “how” a bullet fired from a person’s gun killed we have, likewise, explained *why*. But just try presenting that to a jury and see what your conviction record is.
Dr. Tour, thank you for your testimony. I loved to hear how you were changed by the love and kindness of Christ. I also had a moment at my conversion when I had a personal encounter with the Lord and it has been a point of no return for me. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Bless you
@@derhafi there were moments leading up to this where I felt drawn to convert, whether being an invitation in a church service or a compelling argument in conversation with a friend, but I was resistant in those moments because it felt like peer pressure. But one night, I was sleeping and woke up, and I felt the same drawing and realized it was personal and external. I know what it means to be alone with my thoughts and this was not that. In that moment I became aware that this was God's presence, so I responded in a prayer of compliance. Then I felt God prompting me to read my Bible, and not knowing where to start I opened it to Genesis 1 and began there. Any time I've tried to read the Bible before it made no sense at all, but this time it made perfect sense. It was a pivotal moment for me. Having God show up has a way of doing that. It's as hard to deny as the air I breathe. I know it doesn't happen this way with everyone but I'm so glad it happened to me. I still have questions and struggles, but I can look back to that moment and say that's when I became born again as Jesus said in John chapter 3.
@@derhafi since I'm not a scientist, I have no basis to discern whether Dr. Tour is lying. How exactly is he being dishonest? Maybe you have an example? Hey, I get that you would be unconvinced about someone being visited by God. If someone told me the same story I might also be skeptical. Now just imagine it happened to you and now you have to explain to everyone who asks how you became a Christian, and you know how they will probably react, but you can't deny that the experience was real.
@@derhafi I suppose that excluding the supernatural a priori might be one possible response. Another would be to test out the experience from within a supernatural framework. I did the latter, and God has proved Himself trustworthy time and again. Oh taste and see that the Lord is good. As for Dr. Tour, I will check out the link you suggest.
@@derhafi it's interesting to me that you think that to reach a conclusion of the existence of the supernatural one must toss out all we know about nature. That's not my position. If you want to interact with me, it might help if I offer some clarification. To illustrate, see the following grid: A E _ _ | | | _ _ | | | _ _ I O The 4 boxes of the grid represent 4 positions: A) All S is P E) No S is P I) Some S is P O) Some S is not P S = knowledge P = derived from sense experience So from the 4 positions, the position of empiricism is A) All knowledge is derived from sense experience. You presume, based on your remark, is that I hold position E) ie Knowledge is not derived from sense experience, when in fact I hold position O) that some knowledge is not derived from sense experience. It is a moderate claim, but one that accomodates a vast array of ways to arrive at the truth. Which position do you currently hold in this grid? Re: Dr. Tour, I watched the linked video. It was interesting. Thanks for the info. Definitely a lot to think about
@@derhafi simply, reason logic and mathematics are evidence that some knowledge is not derived from sense experience. You use these every day, but they don't physically exist. If you know that these exist even though you have never perceived them with the senses, then you understand my position in part at least
*_Old Earth vs. Young Earth_* -- How refreshing to find a Christian scientist who can say, "I don't know." We need more scientists who are like this. I too do not have the expertise in astrophysics to vet the purported age of the universe, but the colliding of galaxies tends to suggest that a 6,000-year universe is woefully incorrect. It takes millions of years for two galaxies to approach, collide, separate and collide again. Some pairs are in their second or third collision as gravity brings them spiraling closer and closer to one another, all the while, their "guts" are strewn across intergalactic space. *_If the universe were only 6,000 years old, then God would have created the aftermaths of collisions which had never occurred. Why would God feel the need to appease biblical literalists?_* He wouldn't! God wants us to be humble, and *_hiding_* wisdom in the Bible from literal eyes tends to provoke the reader to be humble in order to find Truth. REFERENCES: *_The Logical Christian_* (hardcover) *_The Bible's Hidden Wisdom: God's Reason for Noah's Flood_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook) *_The Science of Miracles_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook) *_Four Elements of God_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook) *_Proof of God_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook) *_The Art of Forgiveness_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook) *_Dumb Genius: How intelligence is sometimes its own worst enemy_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook)
The Bible says human history is 6000 years but it doesnt say how old the Earth and universe is. Before Adam and Eve Lucifer and his angels lived on this Earth, when he fell the universal flood came (not Noahs flood, a universal flood which also covered the universe hence God split the waters. 2. Peter also talks about this and not about Noahs flood) for how long ? Nobody knows. Also keep in mind that God always creates with the APPEARENCE of age. For example he didnt create Adam and Eve as infants but as adults same as with the trees and everything else. I also highly doubt that Adam and Eve had to wait millions and billions of years to see the light of the stars. So trying to figure out how old everything is if you are a Bible believer is really not possible.
@@crusher1980 Thank you for your opinions. What would you say is the purpose of the Bible? If you are at all like me, I think it has two main purposes -- 1) to relay God's Truth in the best way it can, and 2) to teach us how to return to Heaven. But there is a problem: *_Truth cannot be held by physical, human words. The language of Truth is spirit._* The Kabbalists who wrote the Pentateuch (first 5 books of the Bible) used the Language of Branches -- a type of metaphor based on code words. My own research shows that there are additional layers of meaning to the Bible, if you use the Holy Spirit to look. For example: The patriarchs of Genesis 5 lived to seemingly outrageous ages, until you examine Genesis 5.2 more closely. Genesis 5 talks about *_eponymous tribes,_* not merely individuals. Noah's Flood occurred 27,970 BC, right when one specific species went extinct! That species was the "daughters of men" mentioned in Genesis 6. Adam and Eve arrived on Earth 10,434,130 BC -- all derived from the code found in Genesis, and from the Kabbalists' *_Tree of Life_* matrix embedded in two chapters of Genesis. I describe this discovery in my book, *_The Bible's Hidden Wisdom: God's Reason for Noah's Flood._*
I sometimes wonder if the world is any older than human speech. Because yes scientific evidence points to a much older earth. However if you are God than you can fake that evidence. All animals would propably be terribly suprised if they come into existence in a single moment of time. But they would have no way to tell their children of this very strange moment.
Gods exists outside of time, so it doesn’t apply to Him. He created time. Everyone who has died and come back has said the same time - there is no time where they went. They said it was like everything happened all at once, but also took eons. This is why they have a hard time reporting what happened in a linear fashion. So God could have create the earth, man, animals, plants, etc all in a day. And yet they could be all over the prehistoric record, as if they had been created millions apart. That wouldn’t be faking it, that would be doing what we can’t do. We are bound by time (it is our fourth dimension, because we live in 4D, not 3D). And yet we also know that time is relative (from Einstein and others). That’s why satellites (going at a different speed than us on earth) need to have their clocks adjusted frequntly, because their time is different from our time on earth. So we know that even in our dimension, time isn’t fixed and unmovable. We just don’t have the power to do what God can do.
Wow, I never thought of that! I dont think He really faked the age of earth, though. It seems quite evidently young. I mean when we create elements in a lab (proton-21 experiment) they are created with lots of daughter element dating them as millions/billions of years old. and the elements also form at same ratios as seen on earth. i think atheists latch on to weak but twistable evidence of old age like dating methods, but ignore the rocks screaming of a global flood for example. genetics also tell us about a recent date of creation. i mean i think young earth creation is very obvious. but you brought up such an amazing point about animals being surprised at existence and the inability to communicate events. i totally agree that speech is the marker for creation.
The age of the earth and the age of the universe has been getting older and older throughout the decades, almost the same as the universe expanding does. I keep wondering when they'll get tired of guessing. I just believe with that Bible says, and it's almost up to 6k years old. I've studied the inconsistencies of radiocarbon dating and the like. You explained things very nicely in a video I watched this past week very nicely. About how time went a lot faster in the beginning, or something like that and then explained how it worked and that it depended on where you were, what your perspective was. I copied the transcript somewhere I think. I'm sad that the last two videos I've watch (this is the second) didn't have CC or a transcript.
So here's a question, if it was a 6 day 24hr period. Why couldn't it be? Jesus rose from the dead and there is plenty of science to tell us that doesn't happen? And the evidence pointing to 6 day period of 24hrs, is convincing. So if you deny the 6 24hr period clearly spoken of in the Bible, and it is an earth day, the Hebrew is written in such a way, then we can also say "ach, the resurrection was just mytho-history".
Science can't say that a resurrection isn't possible. What it can say is that it hasn't been demonstrated. When it comes to the age of the universe the science can say that there is direct evidence for its age. There is a big difference between saying that something can't happen for lack of evidence and saying that something happened in spite of evidence. There are actually many hints in Genesis that we aren't talking about a literal 6 days of creation. A lot wraps around Genesis 2 and if its a parallel account or if its a sequel. If its a parallel account then there is a contradiction because the order of creation is disturbed. Its a long discussion but it begins here: The phrase "In the beginning" can be translated "When it all began." If the later is the proper rendering (the first rendering isn't wrong, its just not the only way) then it makes the second clause "the earth was formless and void" a dependent clause. What that would mean is that the scene is slightly different then our common conception. It would be saying that When it all began, God came into a creation already in existence but without order or purpose. There is more to this but I'm trying to be brief. Ill say this to close. 1)This doesn't mean that God didn't create the "formless and void" earth, for other verses make it clear that all things were created by God. 2)This reading parallels ancient thought. Ancients didn't understand much about how things happened and so they didn't care about the "hows" but rather the "whys". Things became real and meaningful when they served a purpose. All the ancient surrounding creation stories began with "why" the god's created everything. None of them explain how.
1) The 6th day is longer than 24 hours. Look at all Adam accomplished! 2) How did Adam get so "lonely", in less than 24 hours (probably more likely less than 12 hours - doh!), by your account, that he stated "at long last" when he saw Eve? He was less than a day old (by your account) Would he not be like a child in amazement at all the sights, sounds, smells, animals (that he had get to know to name them), insects, birds, plants, flowers, etc.. Yet, according to you he got so bored. - right? That is illogical and plain silly! 3) The 7tn day is longer than 24 hours. God is still at rest for thousands of years! 4) How do you have a day if the Sun was not created until Day 4. You need a Star and a rotating planet to determine a day as 1 rotation of that planet in relation to the Star. - right? 5) How do you have evening and morning with no Sun? - derp! 6) There was evening and morning Day 1, Day 2, Day 3 etc. is only 12 hours. - right? Not 24! 7) Why do you need to lie about the 24 hour period "clearly" spoken? That is a poor folklore translation and does not line up with the book of nature at all! The only place it states days is on day 4 when the Sun and Moon can now be clearly seen. . - Why ? - Seasons, DAYS, and years. This is critical for the animals that are to come. 8) Genesis 1 states 6 "yom" which can mean 6 long finite periods of time which just happen to coincide exactly with the book of nature! - Grow up! Why is it so hard for you to understand that the Hebrew word "yom" has four literal definitions? You are acting like a child who is wrong but wants to argue. You use the term "mytho-history" as if you know its origins. Your spell checker identified it as an issue, but you used it anyway! You are in the truth business. Right? When did truth become relative? The resurrection is a salvation issue! - fool! The age of the Earth is NOT a salvation issue! - GROW UP!!!!! You think that a 4.5662 billion year old Earth is less of a miracle? That shows lack of education or willful ignorance. God has the ability to stretch or compress time. Right? A day is like a thousand years. A thousand years is like a "watch" in the night - About 3 hours. - Right 14 billion years is less than a blink of an eye to God! He is eternal with no beginning and no end. - Right? Read Isaiah 55. We do not think like God. Do you still believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth? Why not? The Church taught that folklore theology for over 1800 years! How many centuries will it take for you to cast off your folklore theology? Will you pass it on to your children and make them act like lemmings also? I am not arguing that God could NOT have Created everything in 144 hours or 1.4 seconds if He chose to do so. If He did the laws of Physics would have to be different than they are!! But, They are NOT! Therefore, 144 hours for the Creation event is in error! The Earth is 4.5662 billion years old. God Created the first microbial cell i.e. LIFE ~3.8 billion years ago with "let there be light" allowing Solar radiation and light to reach the surface of the Earth. God Created the first sea creatures about 540 million years ago (Actual accurate dates are still being debated) God Created Adam and Eve 50, 000 - 150, 000 years ago. (Accurate dates are still being debated) Carbon 14 dating is unreliable past 40,000 years. (Note: There is a new study suggesting that Carbon 14 dating can be extended to 55,000 years. I'll wait for further peer reviewed responses) Adam and Eve did NOT evolve from any other Bi-pedal Primate! God has not changed. - Right? His physics has not changed. - Right? He Created our curiosity to study His Creation. - Right? He Created or minds and bodies to build instruments to study His Creation. Right? I do not expect you to listen to some goober like me here on TH-cam. Search: Dr. Hugh Ross. - Reasons to Believe. - Paradox Bro on TH-cam for his Sunday class. - Sentinel Apologetics (not affiliated with Dr. Ross) on TH-cam for dozens and dozens of Dr. Ross videos. - Dr. Ross on TH-cam in general for dozens more. - He has written 23 books. - He has been a Pastor for over 45 years. - He has a PhD in Astronomy from Toronto University.
"6 24hr period clearly spoken of..." Clearly? If it was so clear, there wouldn't be so many sincere Christians on different sides of it. Conversely, the resurrection is something that nobody disagrees about because it actually *is* clear.
@@MutsPub then God has lied about 6 days, how does it fit your millions of years when you read in Exodus 20 for in six days God created the heavens and the earth, oh by the way the word day there is Yom and the old day is as a thousand years you better read 2 Peter it has nothing to do with creation but with the coming judgment and patience of God But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly people. 8But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day. 9The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not willing for any to perish, but for all to come to repentance. A New Heaven and Earth 10But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and [c]its works will be [d]discovered . In the context, the word day in Genesis 1 refers to six 24-hour days. Every time it appears with “evening and morning” or with a number like “sixth day,” it refers to a 24-hour day. Did God create the whole universe, including the original plants, animals, and first two people (Adam and Eve) in six literal 24-hour days? Or did creation take place over millions of years? To answer that, we should remember that the original readers of Genesis were not scientists or Hebrew scholars. Rather, they were former slaves-mostly uneducated- on their way to the Promised Land. The fathers were commanded to teach their children (Deuteronomy 6:1-7), so the Hebrew language in Genesis 1 must have been very clear to the common people, even to children. When we look carefully at Genesis 1, in Hebrew or even in English, it is clear that God created everything in six literal (24-hour) days. First, we are told that He created the earth in darkness and then created light. Then He called the light “day” and He called the darkness “night.” And then He said (in the original Hebrew) “and [there] was evening and [there] was morning, one day.” He repeated the same statement at the end of the second day through the sixth day. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day. Everywhere else in the Old Testament, when the Hebrew word for “day” (יוםֹ, yom) appears with “evening” or “morning” or is modified by a number (e.g., “sixth day” or “five days”), it always means a 24-hour day. On Day Four God further showed that these were literal days by telling us the purpose for which He created the sun, moon, and stars-so we could tell time: literal years, literal seasons, and literal days. Then in Exodus 20:8-11 God commanded the Israelites to work six literal “days” and rest on the seventh because He created in six “days” (using the same Hebrew word). Furthermore, Jesus and the New Testament apostles read Genesis 1-11 as straightforward historical narrative. There are additional good scholarly reasons for coming to that conclusion.1 There is no biblical or scientific reason to be ashamed of believing in a recent six-day creation. God has spoken clearly and truthfully. Will you trust His Word over the arrogant claims of sinful men? In your so called long age you have maligned God who is capable and of creating in a short period of time ,for He is above all and beyond all ,He spoke into existence all things as did Christ with his miracles for He is the creator , you need to go back and read your bible fellow.
Dear Holy Almighty God thank you for Dr James Tour. God bless and protect you and your family James Tour. Thank you for being honorable. We love you xx
This is something I have struggeled with, I have looked at verious science videos by Christians such as Spike Psarris looking for various things that are proofs to show atheists that demand proof, and I still keep coming back to faith. Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. We can only come in faith, I have often said that when we cross from this life to the next, faith cannot and does not work there because it is the true reality, when you come to the full knowledge that God is real on the other side, then you canot have saving faith because faith is believing without proof, once proof comes then faith is then rendered null and void. To try and find proof for the atheists goes against the teaching of having faith. Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Heb 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith. Faith produces actions that are in accordance with the faith that produced them. Sadly one of the things several atheists have said to me, is when I post scripture they ask why am I posting scriptures when they do not believe the bible, to them it is the ramblings of ancient goat herders or rambling about a flying spaghetti monster. They reject the very thing that produces saving faith. if we could produce proof that proof then denies faith, if they come to the conclusion that God is real via some proof then faith is destroyed in them because of that proof. Zeal to see them saved must still go by the way of faith or we deny the very substance of our Christian walk.
He didn't say he had 'proof" of the resurrection. He said he will show you why he believes it from probably scientific evidence. Evidence s not proof, so faith is still required. Our faith is not blind faith, it is based on evidence like reliable eye witnesses to name one.
@@yeshuarules8154 Right, I totally agree our faith is not blind faith, I have seen enough various videos of things that are good evidence. There is a stone memorial on one side of the red sea, the words Pharoah and death can still be read, there are other acheological finds that also show us evidence, such as Egypts interaction with Israel,the Merneptah Stele that mentions Israel by name. A very good video is "The Accuracy of Bible Prophecy"
Proof does not deny faith...if a random person in the street gave me a pill and said it would cure my infection, I could trust him but it would be blind faith as i have no evidence to know he is safe to prescribe or even know what my illness is, or what that pill is. If a doctor in a hospital gave me a pill, I would be far better positioned to believe what he is saying and that the pill is beneficial to my body. Evidence of authenticity and reliability can help give a foundation to build from. In the end, spiritual reality cannot really be fully understood by physical reality but physical reality is where we start.
@@lepterfirefall @Peter James Ledwith I understand that we start with a physical world. Faith in God without proof is what God is looking for. I am sure you are well aware of the faith hall of fame Hebrews ch 11 They all acted in faith. Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. That is why it is faith, because we can believe the things God has said without knowing for sure. I do not know for sure that there will be a New Jerusalem, but we are told there will be, I have no evidence to prove there will be a New Jerusalem, so I must take it on faith that there will be. It is said that about 2/3 of all bible prophecies have come to pass, I Believe that is true so then I can rest assured that the other 1/3 will also come to pass. For me faith is believing without proof, The Jews required a sign, a proof and none was given save the sign of the prophet Jonah. I do believe that because God was doing a new thing, and knew the Jews would fight against it, that Jesus and the apostles did many many miracles and still so many refused to believe.
@@dennishagans6339 yeah....I get what you are saying. But even moses needed evidence that God was sending him...even after talking to a burning Bush. Gideon did his fleece twice. The Jews did get the sign of jonah. I don't personally think that seeking evidence for the existence of God is a bad thing. Of course that only goes do far...it does require faith to take it further. Some know that God exists but choose to reject him.
why not look at genesis 1, the bible's cosmology and age is very very different from modern copernican cosmology. reread the bible and just stick with it. do not turn to modernity.
God created man and put him in a garden. He then demonstrated to Adam a creation of another one of all the creatures so there was no confusion how they got there. He also demonstrated his lordship over those creatures.
"I see the actual bones" - do you know how to vet that? In general, everyone should take this approach to science: if you don't know how to vet it, don't rely on it. Do you know how to vet virology?
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Regarding the timeline of creation stated in Genesis 1 of the Bible, many people think that creation occurred within a 7 "earth-day" period. However, if one reads the actual text of the Bible carefully, it is very clear that the “days” mentioned in Genesis 1 are not referring to the assumed 24-hour earth- days with which we are all accustomed. Because, what is a “day” on earth? Isn’t a "earth-day” the single revolution of the earth around its axis? (By the way, science has shown that the rotation of the earth has not been constant over earth's history. Additionally, every celestial body has a different length for its "day".) According to the Bible, the Earth was not "formed" until the 3rd day of creation. Prior to the 3rd day of creation, the earth was "without form and void". So, how could an "unformed" earth have rotated about its non-existent axis during the first two days of creation to provide a measure of time? Clearly, God was using a different measure of time for a “day” during the “seven days of creation”. In other words, God was not using an “earth-day” as a unit measure of time during creation. To think that God would use an "earth-based time clock" to measure the creation of the universe is akin to the out-dated geocentric belief that the universe revolves around the earth. Even though God is everywhere at all times, God did not have to be "on" earth [Obviously, since the earth had not even been formed until the third "day" of creation.] and therefore not limited by an earthly time frame, when He created the heavens and the earth. (By the way, when was the clock invented? When was the unit measure of time for a second, a minute, an hour, a 24-hour day established? These are all relatively new innovations. So, how could they have measured time at the moment of creation.) God is beyond heaven, earth ... and time.
I was just about to address this but you got to it first! Well said. It seems to me that the 7 days of the creation of the world are 7 different ages. Must like the "days of Noah" they weren't literally just a few days but many many years. It's possible that one day could be billions of years long. We might even still be in the 7th day as God is resting now and no longer shows himself to humans like how he used to. But I have to keep reading my Bible to be certain of that.
@@josemoody1743 Science is the study of physical nature. Physical nature is God's work. So science the study of God's work. One aspect of it (physical nature).
There is a saying by a wise man. If you are to open minded, your brain will fall out. Big problem with your theory, you left out much of the context that leaves no other option other than 7 literal days. I suggest study the bible more, read commentaries and listen to TH-cam less:) God states almost monotonously, then there was evening and morning the first day, then there was evening and morning the second day, evening and morning the third day, etc etc all the way to the sixth day then God rested. It's very hard to take God as saying anything other than 7 literal days when he speaks of evening and morning, singular, which only happen in a day. If you can look past something this simple in scripture and still try to cram millions of years into genesis, I would not trust anything else you have to say about the bible.
I find it ironic that it is actually the OEC position that is (mis)treating Genesis as a science book by applying naturalistic preconceptions. The plain exegetical approach is rejected because it cannot be reconciled naturalistically, yet the plain meaning of the 6 days is not naturalistic and has traditionally been accepted as an account of miraculous events.
I don't know if Dr. Tour will see this, but monetization will encourage TH-cam to push your content more. Even if it isn't to earn money, monetization may be a smart move for the increased reach alone.
@Denis S They certainly claimed to know but obviously there is no way to know that. Nothing in nature comes with a manufacturer label saying who's god made what.
@@deniss2623 That's like me saying you can only see my imaginary friend if you will just open your eyes and believe. That's just pure deception to be fair.
About 30 minutes in they're talking about making life in a lab. I'm thinking even if they succeed in making life in a lab, all they have proven is that an intelligent being with a vast amount of knowledge can manipulate matter to create life. That's far from a purely naturalistic explanation of life without God. In fact, it would seem to promote the opposite explanation; that an all-intelligent, all-powerful being can manipulate the matter which he created in the first place, to create life, which, once sufficiently intelligent can begin to question the existence of that very being. It amazes me the gall or perhaps I should say the idiocy of some people who think "If I, an intelligent being, can just gain enough knowledge to create life in a laboratory, I can prove once and for all that there was no intelligent being who created me."
In the first it would show that life can be created without a supernatural entity. If enough evidence is gathered to show that conditions on a planet can be right for life to emerge then in the second it shows that life can arise naturally. Whether it actually did or not is up for debate but it's a serious blow to those who think that life can only arise by supernatural means.
A third background - I came from totally secular home and was an atheist. Jesus came for me via biology class and asked "Do you think this happened by accident?" I work on the basis that God created the universe etc, but science is trying to work out how. :-D
I don't know how you don't have more views. Honestly one of the best apologetics for Christianity. May God Continue to bless your work Dr. James.
That evo funnel catches the indoctrinated and fights hard to keep them.
EVILooshun shuns intelligent design from a creator, using lies in the hands and mouths fools.
Bible. Psalms 53:1-4
[1](To the chief Musician upon Mahalath, Maschil, A Psalm of David.) The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.
[2]God looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, that did seek God.
[3]Every one of them is gone back: they are altogether become filthy; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
[4]Have the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread: they have not called upon God.
If they do call with a sincere heart, he promises to answer.
@@slevinchannel7589 I sometimes prefer the more succinct description evil-ablution.
Such a crock I wonder how the criminals sold it, but young minds tend to be human sponges I guess.
That's what those Jesuit indoctrination experts count on.
@@slevinchannel7589 YEP with a capital Y.
ALSO A QUAKZEEN. denier praise I AM
THAT I AM.
B U T I must qualify that with a "faulcly so called science" denier.
Praise God for Dr James Tour on his sound trouncing of the fake professor Dave abiogenesis claims.
The whole EVIL-ooshin deck of cards is being blown away with the wind
Praise God.
A N D I'm L O V I N G
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It's about time the fakery of evolution theory was put to scrutiny
It's a house of cards built from top ( billions of years ago) to bottom (it ALL started with an explosion) on lies from the pit of hell off the pens of Jesuits.
It's about time those who've been sucked into the lies to WAKE UP.
From my opinion, the biggest reason that Dr. Tour doesn't have the apologetics numbers of others has more to do with the needs some people have versus the gifts of others. In Buddhism there is a thing called, The Curse of Intellect. It states, in my words, that analytical people will struggle with enlightenment due to their analysis of both the questions and the answers. This falls directly in line what what the Bible says about God's gifts to his followers. In several books of the New Testament we read the Holy Spirit endows us with gifts like faith, healing, prophecy, proclamation, teaching, and others. My mother for instance has the gift of Faith. All the questions I asked her when I was growing up didn't phase her. Nothing about the contradictions I thought I found, or the moral problems, or the impossibility of it all mattered to her in the least. She would shrug her shoulders and just say, "I just know it is true." It shook me from my faith as I learned more. I had to keep learning to eventually come back to Christ. It was a fight to discover the truth, and I wanted the truth so badly. I think there are loads of people like me, who struggle with knowledge, and the questions and answers we wrap around ourselves while trying to understand the universe around us in a logical, consistent way. My mother, my wife, and others I know wouldn't watch 5 minutes of Dr. Tour, but will listen to many hours of apologists who have more love and social centered teaching. None of that moves me, and I won't watch 5 minutes of it. Once I discovered polystrate fossils, I went down the rabbit hole of God's truth and needed more and more. Dr. Tour is near the pinnacle of the search for scientific truth which matches reality versus the guesses we get from so many other "uniformitarian" scientists. This information is not low hanging fruit. I had a couple years where I inhaled deeply in everything Dr. Hovind has put out. Then came Behe, Meyer, Zacharias, Craig, Turek, Lennox, Habermas, with many side roads along the way, like Dr. David Berlinski, an agnostic who suplexes evolution off the top turnbuckle in the funniest and most logical ways. I think Dr. Tour gets fewer views than his testimony deserves because so few of us as striving for this kind of knowledge. This is the tip of the spear kind of info and not everyone wants to go here and be rapt by this information. I wish I had my mom's gift of Faith, but God gave me this gift and I fill it up by consuming the works of those men and more, so that I may pour it out when given the chance.
@@alanmcnaughton3628 'the evo funnel (wtf?) catches the indoctrinated and fights hard to keep them'
Um.. that's religion, remember? Remember how certain religions make it a point to 'get them when they're young', then fights hard to keep them?
Yeah, you have described religion, not science. Science doesn't work that way.
Biological evolution is not forced on anyone. It's taught in public schools in the exact same way other areas of science are taught. You have problems with it, because it conflicts with some of your personal beliefs, so I can understand why you would think the way you do.
There are no churches of evolution, there are no preachers or priests of evolution, and if you have problems with evolutionary theory, or any other area of science, then get yourself a relevant education and get to work. Science is not about 'proving' things, science is about falsifying, and since biological evolution is definitely falsifiable, well, there you go :-) get your data and evidence together and start falsifying.
Being sciences based - Dr. Tour, you are one of the voices that truly helped me "un-stiffen" my neck and seek the Lord as Savior - thank you! I learn something every time I hear you speak even if just life perspective. I continue to be in awe of that high-school "science teacher" who critiqued you and shudder at the reality of garbage taught to our young by "the confused" operating the education system. May we all pray for an awakening.
It amazed me how ALL the UNASSUMED OBSERVATIONAL EVIDENCE...the REAL EVIDENCE.. matches EVERYTHING Christianity teaches. Only FAITH-FILLED STATEMENTS made ABOUT the evidence is given as "evidence" by silly atheists. Two Chromosomes CAN'T ACCIDENTALLY COMBINE as the ridiculous BELIEVERS in evolution try to sucker us into BELIEVING. CAN'T HAPPEN...and yet it is taught and assumed as "fact". That is the scientific equivalent to telling everyone that Thor causes lightning and thunder by his hammer! Ther is ZERO EVIDENCE of this insane statement...and ZERO EVIDENCEthat Chromosomes can combine to form a new species...yet the naturalists BELIEVE in an assumption with even LESS EVIDENCE!! How Silly to ASSUME despite the EVIDENCE TO THE OPPOSITE.
Similarly, DNA CODE CAN'T SELF-CREATE and SELF-ASSEMBLE into cells as Dr. TOUR EXPOSES in his science. Poor naturalists actually BELIEVE in IMPOSSIBILITIES rather than dare to allow their emotional neediness for a Godless universe to be challenged by OBSERVATIONAL REALITY! Atheists WILLFULLY IGNORE facts that offend their emotional need to be non-created. It's so obvious once you stop ACCEPTING what BIASED SCIENTISTS say by FAITH ALONE...and grow a skeptical attitude!
"I have never seen the Bible conflict with a scientific fact" either. Never! These silly liars keep saying "FACT" when it is their BIASED ASSUMPTION!!!
NOTHING in science discredits anything in the Bible. Atheist Scientists merely want you to enjoin their delusions that there "must be". The MORE I learn of scientific evidence, the more I realize the Bible is true!
Well" I know GOD's right, he's never been wrong, and he's never going to be wrong, and he never mentions to me in his word anything about millions of years, so I believe him.
@@rocko100able Pizza is never mentioned in the bible. Quantum mechanics? Netflix? Superman? Bengal tigers?
It appears that a lot of stuff that is real and exists is not mentioned in the bible. Those people back in the day were also not all that much into the scientific method, either. That's probably something important to keep in mind.
@@travisbicklepopsicle The Bible states that God is the creator of all, He knows all, and is all powerful and eternal...the Bible states God knew about all those things you mentioned, much much more and the things to come.
@@travisbicklepopsicle you believe God & Evolution can coexist? If so… you lost, repent!!!
I love Dr Tour as a brother. How can this be? He is my brother..in Jesus. Thank you for stepping forward in faith. And speaking out. I met a nuclear physicist who was afraid for his bible believing faith causing problems for him. Brother Tour encourages the rest of us.
I've seen dr. Tour in a lot of different debate situations, but the few minutes of his personal testimony at the start of this video was some of the most powerful stuff I've ever seen him say. I wish he would share his human side a little bit more, it's very impactful and reaches people in a way that molecular science language might not all the time. Bless this man.
he has lots of devotionals on his channel :)
*_God Bless_*
I am always encouraged and more informed every time I listen to you Dr. Tour. Thank you!!
Informed?
@Sinful Bastard Child look at the material they expect me to work with
When the mighty are humble, they inspire the masses.......We love you Dr. Tour.
I love how he breaks things down in pieces so even the most complicated things make sense. It takes very high intelligence to communicate so well. Love his videos. No nonsense
*_God Bless_*
Yes. And not just intelligence, but talent. I know of people who are very smart, but just cannot break a concept or explanation down to a point that someone outside the field (or even the organization) would be able to understand it. Tour does such a good job breaking this down, that I can have some idea what is going on, having never taken ANY chemistry class ever.
James Tour is such a needed blessing in these times of deception. I also want to give him props for giving disclaimers and not going into areas that he's not versed in. As much as I want to hear his thoughts on those topics, I recognize that this forces the avenues of attacks on his abilities on a topic he knows profoundly.
Lol
@@derhafi Hi Rob, I think your claim is unreasonable. You use ad hominem. You attack his character. You call him a fraud and a liar with no scientific integrity. However, it is clear that James is one of the most accomplished scientists in the world with well over 500 research publications, a PhD and outstanding awards in his field. Even if you disagree with what he says, you cannot discredit his scientific integrity. And I think it is low to attack his character because of it.
@@derhafi his claims make you feel irritable and critical
@@derhafi What claims has he made that are factually wrong?
@@derhafi LOL at U ,science has no clue how Abiogenesis started: intelligent scientists running controlled experiments isn't the same as random processes by an unintelligent cause !
Me (in my heart): I've read the bible cover to cover more than thrice. I'm awesome.
Dr. Tour (encouraging us to faithfulness and scripture): I've read the bible everyday since 1977/
Me: (Jaw drop, mind blown)
What a pleasant conversation between two very knowledgeable gentlemen! Thank you! 🙂👍
Love it, the Bible says seek me and you will find me, but it’s so beautiful when he finds you, great encounter with Jesus , I had mine since I was 12 and never have I been the same.
Even if they create life in the lab, all that proves is that it takes intelligence to do it. 🤪
God bless you guys. 🙏🏼✝️
They can't create life in the lab. They can't vivify a dead organism.
They cannot even create a prokaryote cyanobacteria and having studied Organic Chemistry to get my degrees in biology I'd say they never will. There are over one million+ Carbon compounds many only life can make. Where did a bacteria that just pops up in the fossil record get the information to do that from? The alga knew how to do photosynthesis and for over a billion years created the oxygen cycle.
Exactly!
@L Ron Cupboard. Yes and no. Because the intelligence that made the very first life has to be uncreated, that is has to be God.
@@MountainFisher How do evolutionary biologists explain the nitrogen cycle? As I understand it, without nitrogen fixing bacteria, plants can't utilize naturally ocurring forms of nitrogen.
There is a lot that I don't understand about microbiology, I've heard James True say that the more that is known, the more questions the researchers have.
Being a Christian all of my life and was a Bio major in college. I saw how my Professors and the whole Science community just blasphemes our lord. But me always believing in science and being a Christian it was very hard to try and just ignore certain thing’s about biology /chemistry I knew were true. So seeing well respected scientists who have a strong faith is absolutely incredible
But from this video alone you can see that his arguments don't hold up to scrutiny and are arguments of incredulity and ignorance on the subject matter. The problems that originate from biology against the bible are as much philosophical as they are literal and those facts strongly refute the god described by the bible.
@@timothywilliams8530utter bollox
Thank you gentlemen for your expression of sound Christian theology as well as accurate comments on scientific practice and findings.
Lol
@@Donald-loves-the-uneducated all you do is laugh because you have no legit negative response . 😆
@@cecilspurlockjr.9421 Naw; just not interested in wasting time on this horseshit beyond the momentary humor it provides.
@@Donald-loves-the-uneducated obviously you're a liar fool . Lol Because you did spend your horseshit time didn't you . Jackass liar . 😆 🤣 😂
@@Donald-loves-the-uneducated it is pure comedy
Dr. Tour, thank you so much for your heartfelt and very moving testimony concerning your experience of encountering Jesus. I, myself, had a similar life-changing experience and so have many others I know. May the Lord continue to bless you!
@@derhafi you truly need Jesus.
I've had the same experience and want to ask was there a golden light that outshined any other light. Knowing is better than believing. But why me. And my son had a similar experience.
@@derhafi if you want I have absolute proof what was said is true. Ask Jesus when you see him yourself.
@@derhafi nobody is getting out of here alive including you. Maybe tomorrow. Just remember to ask him either I'm lieing or not. What's my motivation for lieing having met Jesus in person lieing is a sin. And while it may mean nothing to you if you experienced what I did lieing is something I can never do again. And I don't give a crap what anybody thinks of me including you. Except dogs I want dogs to like me.
@@derhafi I wonder why when I give a testimony of what happened to me. And many other people have experienced the same thing. Why I'm never asked how. What was I doing how can I experience the same thing. I can only imagine your afraid or being minipulated by something blinding you from even thinking of the question. Hopefully someday you will become brave enough to try instead of being a little scared child.
Hi guys, loved the interview. God bless all that you are doing. I could say more but I'll just say Hail Purdue! I'm a '85 grad of Purdue AAE went to church with Jim at Upper Room and was in his home group. I learned so much from those years, set a good foundation.
James Tour is awesome, so humble and a brilliant mind
I love James Tour! I believe he tells the truth.
But I would not describe him as humble!
Though he sometimes goes over board when deacribing others work as stupid or not having a clue. He needs to specify what they don't have a clue about.
@@derhafi you're a liar and a fool . Anyone with any knowledge at all in these fields of topic realizes that Dr. Tour is being honest and correct .
@@derhafi I am new to this channel. How about telling me exactly what these lies are?
@@edschaefer6597 Nothing special. Some people are angry because James Tour called abiogenesis a joke. He has challenged the proponents of primordial soup model to create a living cell from from non-living matter.
@@derhafi People are saved or unsaved (not saved).
Why are you living to ensure your trashed eternity (you are obviously not saved)?
I appreciate very much your discussion. You make ordinary people like me understand science more in light of Bible truths. I watched Prof. Walter Veith's presentations on this topic and I am amazed how similar your views are in this regard.
@@derhafi no doubt
Your honesty is beyond refreshing! So many folks in science and academia seem to be driven by ambition or pushing som sort of narrative. You sir, bring it back to its origins...the honest pursuit of understanding God's physical creation!
James tour and Gerald schroeder have greatly blessed my faith
I think the Magnitude of the difficulty of the challenge demonstrates How Great God's knowledge and Power Is!!
It is amazing how difficult and complicated the challenge of Life is!!
I love Professor James Tour, and the The Lord Jesus Christ for him. 🙏🏻🙏🏻✝✝💖💖✝✝⚓⚓✝✝
God does indeed create from his speech. You are correct Dr. Tour. God bless you. You've been such a blessing to us.
Then it should be a really simple task to have him call my cell phone. I really dont want to hear weak ass excuses why your weak ass hod cant do this.
A magic spell?
How does the God speak?
@@DartNoobo they say it can't it has no voice box
@@allenanderson5297 the phenomenon of turning sound into light is called sonoluminescence
I get so excited when Dr. Tour explains how complex our basic building blocks are that I'm just amazed by the Creator's Majesty.
I've read Dr. Schroeder a bit and it's rather interesting that Dr. Tour brings him up. In one of his books, Dr. Schroeder postulates life could have began with the precursor to homo sapiens with the neshama? or Hebrew for breath of life? I would have to reread the book. The math of Genesis days was interesting as well. The book was "The Science of God."
Eh. Smacks of “Piltdown Peat” and his foul “Omega Point” mockery of Logos. ANATHEMA.
The best argument for some of the conventional science paradigm within a Christian paradigm, is that Genesis is plausibly ambiguous about the universe as a WHOLE. We could have both an Old universe and a young earth. It’s also possible that the earth is in a middle age, depending on how you interpret “YM”, neither VERY old nor very young (millions but not billions). I leant that way for a long time, but my growing trust in the Desert Fathers has made me more open to younger, although I still think it’s at least 100,000s of years.
I'm encourage to read the Word everytime i hear you, Dr Tour. Blessing to you!
Something very interesting I noticed between the story of Moses with the Pharoah’s magicians and the statement where scientists say they can re-create life.
The magicians challenged Moses to perform a miracle, so they performed tricks and black magic and spells (we don’t really know it’s just trickery from what I understand) to make little fake snakes and the crowd was astonished. Moses didn’t know what to do ,When God told Moses (Prophet Moussa pbuh) to hit his staff on the ground and it turned into a giant serpent and gobbled up the rest of the “snakes”. The magicians immediately confessed that they believe Moses’ God.
I interpret this as there’s no substitute for God’s creation. God made the miracle to create that serpent from Moses’ staff, but the magicians used deceit and tricked to construe our eyes and minds. That serpent is akin to biology or cells. You can have the best scientists in the world try as hard as they can to get close to the chemical reactions and information and complexity of the cell and they wouldn’t come close. It’s all a bluff. They can only trick you into thinking they’ve solved abiogenesis (if it did happen) but there’s no substitute for the real cell. And to think that it’s the simplest of life that can possibly occur is astonishing.
We must praise God for beautiful creation that we’re still just beginning to understand. We can only marvel
Ex-Mormon here as well. God's Grace is amazing. Hey, there is a song in there somewhere!😀
James Tour!
Thank you for not regretting your "signature" 20 years ago. You have taken a strong offensive position, and your confidence inspires my faith.
But even more, I love your testimony about your love for Jesus!
@@derhafi Can you point me to the data that you refer to?
@@derhafi Rob Davis, You are just popping off. Try to be more objective and maybe you will become more in touch with reality. There is no evidence for the evolution of life from non-life.
@@derhafi Rob Davis, How can anything exist?
@@derhafi Evolution is made up. Consider the possibility that you are deluded. Look into things further. I doubt that you have actually listened or read what Tour and others of his sort have produced. Be honest.
Tour didn’t realise Jesus was Jewish? What a load of piffle . Tour has to lie in order to try and protect his Christian worldview which makes it impossible to believe anything he says .
I will begin to read my Bible every day, thank you James.
My faith has been encouraged over many years by scientists like Dr Tour. Your analysis is excellent. As a Purdue alum I'm proud of the scope of your comments.
@@derhafi Show me the Lies !
Dr Tour you don’t know me but I love you.
Lord bless this man.
I look forward to giving you a hug in Heaven.
"I look forward to giving you a hug in Heaven." why wait, you could book a room together here on earth.
Two of my favorite educators in history of Science are Dr. Terry Mortenson and Dr. Philip Stott....
Dr. James Tour is a great scientist educator for christian actual apologetics...awesome conversation......
Dr. James, I am a Catholic Priest and listening to you leads me to invite you into John 6:48-65. I can see how you love Jesus and Sacred Scripture. You know chemistry and would like you meditate on the passage I suggest. The bread becomes flesh and the wine becomes blood during consacration at Holy Mass or the Holy Eucharist. Ricardo Castañon is a scientist and demonstrates how the Holy Eucharist is Christ Himself. What do you think? I would love you become Catholic and receive in you the same God, the same Jesus.
We pray for your health and great success Dr. James Tour.
Dr. Tour, I just conducted a Jewish evangelism seminar at our church, and trained our people in the importance of reaching Jewish people with the Gospel of the Messiah. It would have been nice to have you contribute. Your work is fabulous. As far as the age of the earth, God settled the interpretation of Gen 1 when He spoke again in Exodus 20:11: "For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day." That communication to Israel makes no sense outside of a one-week creation. Amen.
@@derhafi One minute he doesn't know how to create life in the lab, then he thinks it might be a possibility in the future, then he says it's absolutely impossible. This guy is all over the show and just cherrypicks whatever suits his agenda AND makes a huge argument from ignorance and incredulity, "I don't know how life could've originated naturally therefore god". He's a god damn joke.
@@derhafi Atheism has robbed you of much more than your dignity and integrity.
@@derhafi Couldn't agree more. It is a shame he's let delusion and wishful thinking overcome his rationality and reason.
What does your one week creation story have to do with how old Earth is?
When did this 'one week' occur?
@@travisbicklepopsicle Because if creation happened in 6 days that means men and dinosaurs lived contemporaneously. The age of earth is the same as the age of humans. Also the bible records continuous events and genealogies up to the time of Abraham.
Thank you for your testimony, Dr Tour.
The Lord has blessed us all with Dr. Tour.
Brilliant conversation. Absolutely class.
I saw the Jewish brother on one for Israel. What a blessing. I love it when Jews find who the true Messiah is. I have a doctor, I heard his daughter had died suddenly. I gave my condolences to him during a visit.I felt a burden for him, he said his wife just holds his hand and cries. I said to him have you got any spiritual counselling??
He said to me David we are Jewish? So I called up people I know at Jews for Jesus in Toronto Canada. They sent me a book of Doctors who found Messiah and their testimonials. I gave him the book to Dr. Lax. Next time I came to see him he said was it you who gave me the book? I said yes. He said thank you, but do not proselytize me?? Kind of with a bit of anger. Anyways please pray for him and his wife and family. Dr. Lax Timmins Ontario Canada
Prayers for the doctor.
Dr Tour, please consider the idea Genesis 2 is a flashback to day 6 of creation, to give more details of the creation of people as summarized at the end of chapter 1. Genesis 3 begins recording events happening after day 7. Maybe this can help you make better sense of the origins history record in our Bibles.
Yep. And I would simply add this..."By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible." "But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him."
Yeah I blew my mind he missed that.
Dr. Tour's transparency that he does know how old the earth is or how old the universe is...was just refreshing.
"I don't know how to vet that."
Refreshing honesty. We need this kind of credibile communication.
Modern Quantum Physics has shown that reality is based on probability:
A statistical impossibility is defined as “a probability that is so low as to not be worthy of mentioning. Sometimes it is quoted as 1/10^50 although the cutoff is inherently arbitrary. Although not truly impossible the probability is low enough so as to not bear mention in a Rational, Reasonable argument." The probability of finding one particular atom out of all of the atoms in the universe has been estimated to be 1/10^80. The probability of just one (1) functional 150 amino acid protein chain forming by chance is 1/10^164. It has been calculated that the probability of DNA forming by chance is 1/10^119,000. The probability of random chance protein-protein linkages in a cell is 1/10^79,000,000,000. Based on just these three cellular components, it would be far more Rational and Reasonable to conclude that the cell was not formed by un-directed random natural processes. Note: Abiogenesis Hypothesis posits that un-directed random natural processes, i.e. random chance formation, of molecules led to living organisms. Natural selection has no effect on individual atoms and molecules on the micro scale in a prebiotic environment. (*For reference, peptides/proteins can vary in size from 3 amino acid chains to 34,000 amino acid chains. Some scientists consider 300-400 amino acid protein chains to be the average size. There are 42,000,000 protein molecules in just one (1) simple cell, each protein requiring precise assembly. There are approx. 30,000,000,000,000 cells in the human body.)
Of all the physical laws and constants, just the Cosmological Constant alone is tuned to a level of 1/10^120; not to mention the fine-tuning of the Mass-Energy distribution of early universe which is 1/10^10^123. Therefore, in the fine-tuning argument, it would be more Rational and Reasonable to conclude that the multi-verse is not the correct answer. On the other hand, it has been scientifically proven numerous times that Consciousness does indeed collapse the wave function to cause information waves of probability/potentiality to become particle/matter with 1/1 probability. A rational and reasonable person could therefore conclude that the answer is consciousness.
A "Miracle" is considered to be an event with a probability of occurrence of 1/10^6. Abiogenesis, RNA World Hypothesis, and Multiverse would all far, far, far exceed any "Miracle". Yet, these extremely irrational and unreasonable hypotheses are what some of the world’s top scientists ‘must’ believe in because of a prior commitment to a strictly arbitrary, subjective, biased, narrow, limiting, materialistic ideology / worldview.
Every idea, number, concept, thought, theory, mathematical equation, abstraction, qualia, etc. existing within and expressed by anyone is "Immaterial" or "Non-material". The very idea or concept of "Materialism" is an immaterial entity and by it's own definition does not exist. Modern science seems to be stuck in archaic, subjective, biased, incomplete ideologies that have inadequately attempted to define the "nature of reality" or the "reality of nature" for millennia. A Paradigm Shift in ‘Science’ is needed for humanity to advance. A major part of this Science Paradigm Shift would be the formal acknowledgment by the scientific community of the existence of "Immaterial" or "Non-material" entities as verified and confirmed by observation of the universe and discoveries in Quantum Physics.)
*_“All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind (i.e. Observer). This mind is the matrix of all matter.”_* Max Plank (the Father of Quantum Physics) ...
Information doesn't create the cosmos. Information waves are the fabric of the cosmos. And, as demonstrated with the famous double slit experiment, a conscious observer converts those information waves of potentiality / probability into "particle", "matter", or "cosmos". The Prime Observer creates the Cosmos.
*Matter cannot exist without physical laws and constants first existing. Physical laws and constants cannot exist without mind / consciousness / intelligence first existing. Mind / consciousness / intelligence is Prime. Consciousness / Intelligence Exists Before Matter. Mind Over Matter.*
*_"An especially unusual version of the observer effect occurs in quantum mechanics, as best demonstrated by the double-slit experiment. Physicists have found that even passive observation of quantum phenomena (by changing the test apparatus and passively "ruling out" all but one possibility) can actually change the measured result. Despite the "observer" in this experiment being an electronic detector-possibly due to the assumption that the word "observer" implies a person-its results have led to the popular belief that a conscious mind can directly affect reality.[3] The need for the "observer" to be conscious is not supported by scientific research, and has been pointed out as a misconception rooted in a poor understanding of the quantum wave function ψ and the quantum measurement process, apparently being the generation of information at its most basic level that produces the effect."_* (Wikipedia: Observer Effect)
*An electronic detector is a tool created by and for a conscious observer. Without a conscious observer, the electronic detector, its parameter settings, and its measurements do not exist. The electronic detector becomes an extension of the conscious observer. In the same way, a telescope and microscope are merely extensions of the conscious observer. However, it is the the Conscious Observer that is fundamental.*
Laws of the Universe exist Independent of anyone's personal beliefs in the existence of the Laws of the Universe. Just as man-made laws govern society globally, Universal Laws govern the entire Universe. Un-directed random material natural processes have never been observed or experimentally demonstrated to be capable of producing any form of laws. As scientifically confirmed, non-material laws are the product of only Mind / Consciousness / Intelligence.
//A major part of this Science Paradigm Shift would be the formal acknowledgment by the scientific community of the existence of "Immaterial" or "Non-material" entities as verified and confirmed by observation of the universe and discoveries in Quantum Physics.//
Everything observed within the universe along with Quantum Physics is natural.
How can we work with the non-material in our models?
You have to demonstrate the "supernatural" and science can't detect it.
Good luck getting any one to read all of that.
Dr Tour, have you considered the concept and method in the Bible known as "Repeat and Enlarge"? I think you will understand Genesis 1 and 2 if you look closer. This method is used throughout the Bible.
"We cannot critique ancient, eastern texts using principles of literary analysis based upon modern, western literature. Instead, the approach in ancient Hebrew literature is to take up a topic and develop it from a particular perspective and then to stop and take up the same theme again from another point of view. This pattern is kaleidoscopic and recursive. The first creation story (1:1-2:3) gives a global perspective. The second creation story (2:4-3:24) begins by focusing on the creation of man. Thus the first focuses on the origin of the universe, the second on humanity. Therefore, 2:4-3:24 is, in fact, devoted to further development of the topics broached in the sixth paragraph of the ‘first account’ and so adds to the significance of the creation of mankind."
His testimony is so powerful. The kindness of Jesus REALLY is overwhelming. Praise God for such a wonderful plan of redemption.
James Tour is amazing. Thank God I found him
excellent talk. love Dr Tour, he is brilliant! Glory to God who gives Dr Tour the wisdom and insight
I see Dr. Tour but I don't see God. Where is he?
You are deluded.
@@JamesRichardWiley right
@@JamesRichardWiley He is a spirit. Can you see your heart?
Can you see dark matter or see the stuff of dark holes? Can you see your own intelligence or personality? Or is it only the response of those two invisible elements as you respond to stimuli? The materialist has a lot of unanswerable questions and if he is honest, many unsolvable proofs that he cannot actually live consistently with his worldview.
Dr. Tour, thank you so much for clearing minds of so-called pro science audience! Many lost souls need it!
"Many lost souls need it" no we don't.
@@aue82a People need faith, science in denial could bring us on the verge of total collapse as a society. That what I meant. If you personally don’t need it, it doesn’t mean that the others feel the same. Modern science’s turned into some kind of a sectarian organisation with its own inquisition and torture chambers, where those who don’t support the base line are kept and pilloried. Scientists became some sort of calculators and lost spirituality, probably, that is why we’re having such crisis in science now. Look at Newton, he was a believer.
Was thrilled to hear Dr. Tour mention Gerald Schroeder. I've been trying to find someone to give feedback on Schroeder's theory (which makes a load of sense to me) but haven't found anyone actually dealing with it. The relativity of time coupled with entropy seem too almost fit too perfectly with the Bible.
Dr. James Tour, thank you so much for being so humble, bold, and honest at the same time. I learn so much every time I see your videos... may God bless you and keep you safe 😊🙏🏼
I like how honest DR James tour is.
I like how gullible and uninformed you are.
He doesn't need to lie when the truth is on his side.
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So he's an atheist?
Why is he lying about being a Christian then?
Makes no sense.
@@cygnusustus The ultimate truth
@@jojo3718
The lingering lie.
you guys are a blessing
Thank You Dr James Tour and Dr Corey Miller.
Well, God created the material world by His powerful word. Everything we see in the universe is the spoken word of God. When God speaks, things come into existence. Night stars, the energy from the sun to the earth The food we eat and the water we drink come from the Word of God. Only God can create and translate His word into action. The invisible world or the information world comes into existence by the power of God
Out of the nearly 8 billion people on this planet and the millions that have gone before NOT ONE PERSON knows exactly what existed or occurred prior to the Big Bang or the Planck Epoch to be more specific. If anyone claims that they do know then they are deluded or are being dishonest, probably both.
In saying that, it is almost infinitely more LIKELY that the universe originated naturally and wasn't poofed into existence by some omnipotent entity from another dimension.
Nature my friend, not gods.
Vision of the dead earth and Universe before the Resurrection of the Dead and Our Lord's dictation given to Maria Valtorta on 1/29/1944 (from Notebooks 1944, pp.118-119, 122-123): An immense expanse of land. As boundless as a sea. I say "land" because there is earth, as on fields and roads. But there is not one tree, stem, or blade of grass. Dust, dust, and more dust. I see this in a light which is not light. A barely outlined, leaden brightness of a green-violet hue as is seen at the time of a very heavy thunderstorm or a total eclipse. A light, prompting fear, of burnt-out stars. That's it. The sky is devoid of stars. There are no stars, no moon, no sun. The sky is empty, as the earth is empty. The former is stripped of its flowers of light; the latter, of its plant and animal life. They are two vast remains of what was. I think this desolate vision of the death of the universe is the same as at the first moment (Genesis 1:1-2), when heaven and earth already existed, but the former was devoid of stars and the latter deprived of life --a solidified globe, but still uninhabited, flying through space, waiting for the Creator's finger to give it grass and animals.
Jesus, Our Lord, says: "When time is over and life is to be exclusively Life in the Heavens, the universe will again become as it was at the beginning (of creation), before being dissolved completely. This will take place when I have judged (Last Judgement). That is why you saw the earth devoid of grass and trees, animals, men, and life, and the oceans devoid of sails, an expanse of still waters, for movement will no longer be necessary for them to give life to the fish of the waters, as warmth will no longer be necessary for the earth to give life to crops and beings. That is why you saw the firmament empty of stars, with no more fires, no more lights. Light and heat will no longer be necessary for the earth, now an enormous cadaver bearing in itself the dead bodies of all the living from Adam until the last son of Adam."
From Our Lord's dictation, we understand that the stars and galaxies were created for men living on the earth and that the earth is not just a small planet among billions of billions stars and planets but was created to provide a good living environment for men as well as plants and animals and all living things. After the Last Judgement, all the Redeemed, with their glorified bodies, will enter the Heavenly Kingdom to be with God. Then, the physical worlds and time we know will be no more and only two Kingdoms, Heaven and Hell, will remain for eternity. From this, it can be inferred that God's purpose, in creating 'Heaven and earth and all things visible and invisible' and man in His Image and Likeness in the beginning of the time, was to establish His Family in Heaven. How greatly we should praise and thank and love God for His Infinite Love!!! Blessed be God forever, Blessed be God forever, Blessed be God forever!!!
@@hyeminkwun9523 Interesting story. Most likely not true. The earth is just a speck in an immense, possibly infinite universe. We are special but not as special as you wish to believe I'm afraid.
@@TheTruthKiwi We will know the Truth later, but I believe. If one does not believe in God, then, of course, it would not make sense.
@@hyeminkwun9523 We will know the truth after we die right? Have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe, you maybe in a death cult? It sure seems like it to me.
Dr Tour, just discovered your channel here. Science of today most definitely is 180 degrees from the scripture in nearly every aspect. I love the work that you're doing here and have the upmost respect to anyone who goes against main stream narrative...especially someone of your credentials. I was wondering tho, what are your thoughts on biblical cosmology? Have you ever spoke to anyone (expert) on the subject? Scriptures do not depict a spinning ball earth in an infinite vacuum...its the polar opposite! It says in multiple versus that the earth is fixed, established, stationary, built on pillars, has 4 corners, etc... I guess my question to you is, do you trust what the Bible actually says about the cosmology of our realm, or do you take a different stance? Or, would you be open to discussion with subject experts? I truly do believe this would take your studies to the next level if you kept an open mind. Most Christians truly dont believe their Bible...and this subject is proof of it imo.
"the earth is fixed, established, stationary, built on pillars, has 4 corners, etc..." There is a lot of potential meanings of those words and the most likely is that it coveys something about the earth and our relationship to God but not about the physical planet on which we live. It is easy to verify the earth is a sphere using math and observations from space, also airplanes fly over the entire globe and back to where they started. So if the earth doesn't have 4 literal corners and it is meant to convey something different, those other statements might also tell us different that first assumed. if you want to get technical the earth can be fixed in the sense that nothing will move it from the place God put it (in orbit around our star). established can mean a lot of things. Stationary certainly doesn't mean the earth never moves because we have earthquakes, but it mostly doesn't seem to move relative to us. Built on pillars might refer to the laws of physics that hold this planet in its place in the universe, they aren't physical pillars but the effects are the same. Its possible the bible is correct in everything it says and we don't understand what it really says. The bible leaves very little ambiguous when it comes to things that really matter such as our relationship to God and how to be reconciled to him. But after that it becomes less clear on topics and simply never brings up some things. I trust God will reveal to us when we are with him how it all worked, but in the mean time we are all probably wrong on something and it doesn't really matter because we know that only thing we really need to know.
@@lexpox329 you have a lot to learn... I used to believe everything you just said here. Then i went out and tested these things. The Bible is right....the earth is NOT a spinning ball in an ever expanding universe....its a level horizontal plane...a closed system. Before you dismiss this and try to argue for the heliocentric model of the earth, you might want to look into True Biblical cosmology. I can give you over 200 scriptures to back up a geocentric stationary level plane. The bible is a flat earth book from cover to cover...and the earth is flat...and i can bring forth the scientific evidence for that if anyone here wants to actually learn something. Remember, condemnation before investigation is the height of all ignorance...go research flat earth (True earth) before you try to argue with me...because i promise i know more about the heliocentric model (sun centered spinning ball earth) than 99.99% do...as Ive been studying it religiously for the past 5.5 years
Sie haben vollkommen Recht.Die Bibel ist kein naturwissenschaftliches Lehrbuch.Die Bibel ist für das Seelenheil des Menschen geschrieben und soll uns aber nicht die Quantenphysik erklären.Ich schätze Prof.Tour sehr,aber er soll sich
nicht in eine Sackgasse manövrieren lassen.Entschuldigung das ich nicht in englisch schreibe,aber och habe bisher kein Übersetzungsprogramm gefunden
das korrekt übersetzt.
Dr James Tour is truly brilliant as he won't say what he doesn't know from the perspective of modern science.
James, you have to get ahold of Jonathan Sarfati's book: Refuting Compromise. He has a Ph.D. in physical chemistry so I think you'll enjoy his detailed methodological approach. I guarantee the Genesis 1 -2 blurr will become clear by the time you're done reading
Book interview here on Donny's channel -> th-cam.com/video/Uo6rBo-Y_Es/w-d-xo.html
Agreed!
True!
If someone says your baby is really a dolly, don't throw her or him out with the bath water straight away, without making sure they're not mistaken. Great (apparent) confidence is an excellent cloak for very effective deceit.
I read Refuting Compromise and your comments are correct.
Mixing secular science establishment faulty theories with bible is a great error.
James Tour is one of my heroes.
Wow Dr Tour, that was like a Paul thing. God had big plans for you! I know so many Mormons, I only wish I could get through to them about the Real Jesus.
Dr Tour,
Could you envision the "whirling wheels" of Ezk 1 & 10 as a kind of gyroscope? Eyes are sensors. A creature that moved at the speed of lightning (200,000mph) would need unrivalled stability & situational awareness (eyes). The computing power & math needs would be confounding. I love your testimoney Dr Tour. I love Jesus, and His work in your life is encouraging to the restof us. May God continue to bless you.
Larry Bird was the goat of trash talking amongst his peers, Dr Tour is the ultimate "truth" talker amongst his peers.❤😊❤
I like the understanding that there are no contradiction between science “fact” and the Bible. There are plenty of contradictions between scientific theory and biblical interpretations.
Yep. Science has disproved claim after biblical claim, exposing it all as the rambling nonsense of ignorant superstitious barbaric bronze-age goatherrders. It's an embarrassment to humanity that people persist in believing such obvious nonsense.
🙏🏻😇 GOD BLESS YOU Dr James Tour 👋, THANK YOU VERY MUCH for Your Insight into BOTH Science 🧪🔭 and Theology. Always very interesting 🤔🙏🏻🤔🙂
what gets me is -How is it that the best intelligent scientist cant create life with the knowledge and intelligence and mind they have but they believe life was created randomly without intelligence. How does that make sense?
You have to have sense to make sense of something. Or sit and study a lot more than a person with average IQ. But you can get there if you try.
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Either life can be created or it can't be created. There is no "in between" experiment. There is no rightful claim to anything by saying "we almost have it figured out". Either life can be created or it can't be created is all that counts. Regardless of vast amounts of research, any conclusion will be simply YES or NO.
What James Tour does is to highlight how solid the *NO* conclusion remains.
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The argument from Tom Y is one of logic and he presents a "what if" mind game.
Good take on the Miller-Urey experiments and other OOL research. All they have been able to demonstrate convincingly is that intelligent agents who design their experiments carefully and control the reaction environments of their chemicals painstakingly can produce precursors of the organic chemicals that make up living cells. Bravo.
It actually shows it can happen naturally.
If scientists Can not create the minimum material thing how evolutionists pretend the nature create it self without brain in it? Not any brain Can do it, but a supernatural brain. I do not believe that scientist can do that now and never, life is an exclusive atribute of God.
I asked GPT to give an unbiased view of this video from the transcript:
The statement by James Tour presents a detailed and critical perspective on the challenges of explaining the origin of life from a synthetic organic chemistry standpoint. Tour's argument centers on the complexity of synthesizing the basic molecular components required for life and the even greater challenge of assembling these components into a functioning biological system, such as the simplest bacterium. His emphasis on the role of synthetic organic chemistry in understanding the prebiotic synthesis of life's building blocks is rooted in his expertise in the field.
Tour points out several critical challenges:
- The difficulty of synthesizing the four basic classes of molecules (nucleic acids, proteins, carbohydrates, lipids) under prebiotic conditions.
- The complexity of assembling these molecules into a functioning cell, even if all the necessary components were available.
- The chiral nature of biological molecules, which adds another layer of complexity to their synthesis.
- The degradation of organic molecules over time, which challenges the notion that time alone could facilitate the spontaneous assembly of life's building blocks.
His critique extends beyond the scientific challenges to the implications of the perceived gap between public understanding and the current state of origin of life research. He suggests that overly optimistic portrayals of our understanding of life's origins can lead to public mistrust in science.
From an unbiased and objective standpoint, Tour's argument highlights significant and real challenges in origin of life research. His emphasis on the complexity of synthetic organic chemistry in relation to the origin of life is valid and underscores the interdisciplinary nature of the problem. However, it's important to note that the field of origin of life research is inherently interdisciplinary, involving not just synthetic organic chemistry, but also evolutionary biology, planetary science, and other fields. Researchers in these areas contribute different perspectives and methodologies to address the questions Tour raises.
While Tour's critique is based on current scientific understanding and the limitations of synthetic chemistry, it's also important to recognize that science is a progressively refining process. What is not understood or achievable today may become clearer with future discoveries and technological advances. The origin of life is a deeply complex question that remains one of the biggest scientific challenges, and ongoing research continues to explore potential pathways that might bridge the gap between non-living chemistry and living systems.
Hello Dr Tour, Romans 5:13 isn't talking about the Edenic law but rather the Mosaic law, that's why the next verse says "death reigned from Adam to Moses". Adam and Eve are the original parents of all humans. Anyways, you're a great inspiration to myself and many others. Thanks for your dedication to the Lord.
Excellent correct understanding.
Exactly. Not sure why he went off the deep end there, pretending Adam and Eve weren't the ones mentioned in Genesis 1... WLC believes something similar to mankind somehow having a separate branch from Adam and Eve, but the Bible says Eve is the mother of all living. These big brains seem to be letting ever changing Science speak for scripture...
@@arcguardian exactly, gotta love The Word more than the "science".
'Adam and Eve are the original parents of all humans'
Huh?.. there were no 'first two humans'. Why would you think that is fact, when all data and evidence from the real world clearly demonstrates otherwise?
You can be a Christian without being a science and reality denier.
@@travisbicklepopsicle You are the science and reality denier if you actually believe a population of dumb nontalking animals evolved and became talking human beings.
As an atheist NDErs I absolutely understand the love he feels for Jesus, not only I understand but I share his love, my experience was with Jesus and truly I tell you that the love Jesus have for as all is unconditional and extremely difficult to explain because is a never ending experience, is amazing, blessings Dr, you’re an amazing person and believer!, be love and be blessed
Former atheist?
@@truthbebold4009 I truly don’t know how to answer that, I think I’m still an atheist
@@LuisHernandez-qk1nu That makes zero sense. How do you know about, believe, and love Jesus yet consider yourself an atheist?
@@truthbebold4009 thank you for your question, I’ve been an atheist for 53 years of my life, born and race in a communist country the only God was the government or else!, I knew nothing about religion nor I ever care for it, God and Jesus and heaven was nothing more than a joke to me until my NDE about three years ago, and religion today still something foreign to me and after my NDE I’m 100% sure that I’ll never be a religious person, so I don’t know exactly where I stand when it come to your question
@@LuisHernandez-qk1nu Wow! What an experience. You live in the US now?
Faith is what Dr Tour lives by. That much is obvious! Loved this!
(1). Science just means 'knowledge'. is there any knowledge contradict the bible? The answer is 'yes'. The following is one example.
(2). The nicene creed tells us that God is three persons of the father, jesus and the holy ghost. Whilst, jesus say in john17:3 that only the father is god and only the father is true god.
@@sethsuleiman4419 That's a question about biblical interpretation, not science contradicting the bible.
@@samuellowekey9271 Has the nicene creed wrongly interpret john 17:3?
@@sethsuleiman5104 Is bible interpretation concerned with the study of language or the study of the physical world?
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It may be a CHILDs SUNDAY SCHOOL SONG, but as a 63 year old Christian "I truely have THE JOY, JOY, JOY , JOY DOWN IN MY HEART. ITS DOWN IN MY HEART TO STAY"!!!
I teach high school Science at a Christian High school and I have the JOY of teaching Christian young people every day!! With the help of Jesus, I try to show my students the HEART of JESUS!!
I agree with Dr. Tour Science doesn't conflict with GOD WHATSOEVER!!! I am an OLD EARTH CHRISTIAN BTW because I was completing my PhD in PHYSICS at Purdue University ONE BUILDING OVER FROM DR. TOUR!!
Thank you, Dr Tour, for your ministry and for being reasonable. Your position deserves much respect.
I'd love to see a collaboration between James Tour and Stephen Meyer!
They do alot of stuff together. They are my two favorite Scientists.
Dr. James, you are awesome. God bless you with more wisdom.
"God bless you with more wisdom." well yes indeed, he certainly needs it.
@@aue82a He is more wise than you
@@myworshipresources quite possibly, but at least I am living in a real world, devoid of magic, dealing with stuff on my own two feet, and not willing to suffer the proselytizing BS that emanates from a fanatic
This was the great problem in my college career. I was good at science and I could have earned a degree in biology. However, the evolutionists attacked me so viciously that I turned to the humanities.This was in 1970. The same thing happened in my other science courses like physics and chemistry. Science is just as dogmatic as religion ,if not more so. I was so alone back then because there was a great turning away from the Lord. The new design theory represents the veiw that I held at the the and still hold with conviction.
Amen! Bless you!
@@marionchase-kleeves8311 I certainly need a blessing right now. Thanks a million!
James has shown that a practicing scientist can also also practice make believe.
You were not good at science.
You're obviously ignorant of science, and lack basic critical thinking skills.
Re: "Science is just as dogmatic as religion ,if not more so."
*dogma*
/ˈdɒɡmə/
_noun_
a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true.
"If you want the bible to map onto science, you are gonna have a hard time, cos science changes every few decades." [Dr James Tour]
Oh dear, did Jamie Tour debunk you, _before_ you made that dumbass comment?
As an ex-atheist (I was 8 years old when I became an atheist) and a former believer in Darwinian evolutionary biology and Charles Lyell's uniformitarian explanation for geology and topography, I have no issue in taking Genesis as a plain book of history, that God created the universe and the earth in six days and resting on the seventh.
As an ex chistian I can fully say that genesis cannot be a plain book of history.
@@timothywilliams8530 ...well, it reads as such.
@@1969cmp Correct, well, except for the magical parts. The problem is that it is impossible as described.
@@timothywilliams8530 ...both the materialistic and creation face the 'impossible' tag.
But we have a universe before and we live on a world that defies impossible.
So weak the question relating to origins and we can look at the problem in afew ways, notably that the universe is too big and complex right down to the small things like DNA and ATP Synthesis and this couldn't come from nothing or even a highly compressed ball. That would be 'shear dumb luck' to quote the agnostic David Berlinski.
Then there is The Creator, eternal and isn't dependent on the material universe as we know it, which at least looks to be designed even down to small details like DNA and ATP synthesis.
@@timothywilliams8530 .....there is a good reason why catastrophism has been uneasily adopted into geology. We see it and it works. Those who always believed in Genesis had no problems with catastrophic fluvial geology from the outset.
Atheists always tend to believe that by answering “how” they have automatically rendered *why* meaningless. But that’s like saying, explaining “how” a bullet fired from
a person’s gun killed we have, likewise, explained *why*. But just try presenting that to a jury and see what your conviction record is.
Atheism is not dead....swear to God
Dr tour is a amazing man, thank you for coming forward!
Dr. Tour, thank you for your testimony. I loved to hear how you were changed by the love and kindness of Christ. I also had a moment at my conversion when I had a personal encounter with the Lord and it has been a point of no return for me. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Bless you
@@derhafi there were moments leading up to this where I felt drawn to convert, whether being an invitation in a church service or a compelling argument in conversation with a friend, but I was resistant in those moments because it felt like peer pressure. But one night, I was sleeping and woke up, and I felt the same drawing and realized it was personal and external. I know what it means to be alone with my thoughts and this was not that. In that moment I became aware that this was God's presence, so I responded in a prayer of compliance. Then I felt God prompting me to read my Bible, and not knowing where to start I opened it to Genesis 1 and began there. Any time I've tried to read the Bible before it made no sense at all, but this time it made perfect sense.
It was a pivotal moment for me. Having God show up has a way of doing that. It's as hard to deny as the air I breathe. I know it doesn't happen this way with everyone but I'm so glad it happened to me. I still have questions and struggles, but I can look back to that moment and say that's when I became born again as Jesus said in John chapter 3.
@@derhafi since I'm not a scientist, I have no basis to discern whether Dr. Tour is lying. How exactly is he being dishonest? Maybe you have an example?
Hey, I get that you would be unconvinced about someone being visited by God. If someone told me the same story I might also be skeptical. Now just imagine it happened to you and now you have to explain to everyone who asks how you became a Christian, and you know how they will probably react, but you can't deny that the experience was real.
@@derhafi I suppose that excluding the supernatural a priori might be one possible response. Another would be to test out the experience from within a supernatural framework. I did the latter, and God has proved Himself trustworthy time and again.
Oh taste and see that the Lord is good.
As for Dr. Tour, I will check out the link you suggest.
@@derhafi it's interesting to me that you think that to reach a conclusion of the existence of the supernatural one must toss out all we know about nature. That's not my position. If you want to interact with me, it might help if I offer some clarification.
To illustrate, see the following grid:
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The 4 boxes of the grid represent 4 positions:
A) All S is P
E) No S is P
I) Some S is P
O) Some S is not P
S = knowledge
P = derived from sense experience
So from the 4 positions, the position of empiricism is A) All knowledge is derived from sense experience.
You presume, based on your remark, is that I hold position E) ie Knowledge is not derived from sense experience, when in fact I hold position O) that some knowledge is not derived from sense experience.
It is a moderate claim, but one that accomodates a vast array of ways to arrive at the truth.
Which position do you currently hold in this grid?
Re: Dr. Tour, I watched the linked video. It was interesting. Thanks for the info. Definitely a lot to think about
@@derhafi simply, reason logic and mathematics are evidence that some knowledge is not derived from sense experience. You use these every day, but they don't physically exist. If you know that these exist even though you have never perceived them with the senses, then you understand my position in part at least
Dr. Tour is a blessing to every person who values truth. All Glory to the Most High, The Lord Jesus Christ.🥰
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*_Old Earth vs. Young Earth_* -- How refreshing to find a Christian scientist who can say, "I don't know." We need more scientists who are like this. I too do not have the expertise in astrophysics to vet the purported age of the universe, but the colliding of galaxies tends to suggest that a 6,000-year universe is woefully incorrect. It takes millions of years for two galaxies to approach, collide, separate and collide again. Some pairs are in their second or third collision as gravity brings them spiraling closer and closer to one another, all the while, their "guts" are strewn across intergalactic space.
*_If the universe were only 6,000 years old, then God would have created the aftermaths of collisions which had never occurred. Why would God feel the need to appease biblical literalists?_* He wouldn't! God wants us to be humble, and *_hiding_* wisdom in the Bible from literal eyes tends to provoke the reader to be humble in order to find Truth.
REFERENCES:
*_The Logical Christian_* (hardcover)
*_The Bible's Hidden Wisdom: God's Reason for Noah's Flood_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook)
*_The Science of Miracles_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook)
*_Four Elements of God_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook)
*_Proof of God_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook)
*_The Art of Forgiveness_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook)
*_Dumb Genius: How intelligence is sometimes its own worst enemy_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook)
The Bible says human history is 6000 years but it doesnt say how old the Earth and universe is. Before Adam and Eve Lucifer and his angels lived on this Earth, when he fell the universal flood came (not Noahs flood, a universal flood which also covered the universe hence God split the waters. 2. Peter also talks about this and not about Noahs flood) for how long ? Nobody knows.
Also keep in mind that God always creates with the APPEARENCE of age. For example he didnt create Adam and Eve as infants but as adults same as with the trees and everything else. I also highly doubt that Adam and Eve had to wait millions and billions of years to see the light of the stars.
So trying to figure out how old everything is if you are a Bible believer is really not possible.
@@crusher1980 Thank you for your opinions. What would you say is the purpose of the Bible?
If you are at all like me, I think it has two main purposes -- 1) to relay God's Truth in the best way it can, and 2) to teach us how to return to Heaven.
But there is a problem: *_Truth cannot be held by physical, human words. The language of Truth is spirit._* The Kabbalists who wrote the Pentateuch (first 5 books of the Bible) used the Language of Branches -- a type of metaphor based on code words. My own research shows that there are additional layers of meaning to the Bible, if you use the Holy Spirit to look. For example: The patriarchs of Genesis 5 lived to seemingly outrageous ages, until you examine Genesis 5.2 more closely. Genesis 5 talks about *_eponymous tribes,_* not merely individuals.
Noah's Flood occurred 27,970 BC, right when one specific species went extinct! That species was the "daughters of men" mentioned in Genesis 6.
Adam and Eve arrived on Earth 10,434,130 BC -- all derived from the code found in Genesis, and from the Kabbalists' *_Tree of Life_* matrix embedded in two chapters of Genesis.
I describe this discovery in my book, *_The Bible's Hidden Wisdom: God's Reason for Noah's Flood._*
I sometimes wonder if the world is any older than human speech. Because yes scientific evidence points to a much older earth. However if you are God than you can fake that evidence. All animals would propably be terribly suprised if they come into existence in a single moment of time. But they would have no way to tell their children of this very strange moment.
Gods exists outside of time, so it doesn’t apply to Him. He created time. Everyone who has died and come back has said the same time - there is no time where they went. They said it was like everything happened all at once, but also took eons. This is why they have a hard time reporting what happened in a linear fashion.
So God could have create the earth, man, animals, plants, etc all in a day. And yet they could be all over the prehistoric record, as if they had been created millions apart. That wouldn’t be faking it, that would be doing what we can’t do.
We are bound by time (it is our fourth dimension, because we live in 4D, not 3D). And yet we also know that time is relative (from Einstein and others). That’s why satellites (going at a different speed than us on earth) need to have their clocks adjusted frequntly, because their time is different from our time on earth. So we know that even in our dimension, time isn’t fixed and unmovable. We just don’t have the power to do what God can do.
Wow, I never thought of that! I dont think He really faked the age of earth, though. It seems quite evidently young. I mean when we create elements in a lab (proton-21 experiment) they are created with lots of daughter element dating them as millions/billions of years old. and the elements also form at same ratios as seen on earth. i think atheists latch on to weak but twistable evidence of old age like dating methods, but ignore the rocks screaming of a global flood for example. genetics also tell us about a recent date of creation. i mean i think young earth creation is very obvious. but you brought up such an amazing point about animals being surprised at existence and the inability to communicate events. i totally agree that speech is the marker for creation.
The age of the earth and the age of the universe has been getting older and older throughout the decades, almost the same as the universe expanding does. I keep wondering when they'll get tired of guessing. I just believe with that Bible says, and it's almost up to 6k years old. I've studied the inconsistencies of radiocarbon dating and the like. You explained things very nicely in a video I watched this past week very nicely. About how time went a lot faster in the beginning, or something like that and then explained how it worked and that it depended on where you were, what your perspective was. I copied the transcript somewhere I think. I'm sad that the last two videos I've watch (this is the second) didn't have CC or a transcript.
They have to expand it more and more because the evidence they find proves them wrong every time
So here's a question, if it was a 6 day 24hr period. Why couldn't it be? Jesus rose from the dead and there is plenty of science to tell us that doesn't happen? And the evidence pointing to 6 day period of 24hrs, is convincing.
So if you deny the 6 24hr period clearly spoken of in the Bible, and it is an earth day, the Hebrew is written in such a way, then we can also say "ach, the resurrection was just mytho-history".
Science can't say that a resurrection isn't possible. What it can say is that it hasn't been demonstrated. When it comes to the age of the universe the science can say that there is direct evidence for its age. There is a big difference between saying that something can't happen for lack of evidence and saying that something happened in spite of evidence.
There are actually many hints in Genesis that we aren't talking about a literal 6 days of creation. A lot wraps around Genesis 2 and if its a parallel account or if its a sequel. If its a parallel account then there is a contradiction because the order of creation is disturbed.
Its a long discussion but it begins here: The phrase "In the beginning" can be translated "When it all began." If the later is the proper rendering (the first rendering isn't wrong, its just not the only way) then it makes the second clause "the earth was formless and void" a dependent clause. What that would mean is that the scene is slightly different then our common conception. It would be saying that When it all began, God came into a creation already in existence but without order or purpose. There is more to this but I'm trying to be brief. Ill say this to close. 1)This doesn't mean that God didn't create the "formless and void" earth, for other verses make it clear that all things were created by God. 2)This reading parallels ancient thought. Ancients didn't understand much about how things happened and so they didn't care about the "hows" but rather the "whys". Things became real and meaningful when they served a purpose. All the ancient surrounding creation stories began with "why" the god's created everything. None of them explain how.
1) The 6th day is longer than 24 hours. Look at all Adam accomplished!
2) How did Adam get so "lonely", in less than 24 hours (probably more likely less than 12 hours - doh!), by your account, that he stated "at long last" when he saw Eve? He was less than a day old (by your account) Would he not be like a child in amazement at all the sights, sounds, smells, animals (that he had get to know to name them), insects, birds, plants, flowers, etc.. Yet, according to you he got so bored. - right? That is illogical and plain silly!
3) The 7tn day is longer than 24 hours. God is still at rest for thousands of years!
4) How do you have a day if the Sun was not created until Day 4. You need a Star and a rotating planet to determine a day as 1 rotation of that planet in relation to the Star. - right?
5) How do you have evening and morning with no Sun? - derp!
6) There was evening and morning Day 1, Day 2, Day 3 etc. is only 12 hours. - right? Not 24!
7) Why do you need to lie about the 24 hour period "clearly" spoken? That is a poor folklore translation and does not line up with the book of nature at all!
The only place it states days is on day 4 when the Sun and Moon can now be clearly seen. . - Why ? - Seasons, DAYS, and years. This is critical for the animals that are to come.
8) Genesis 1 states 6 "yom" which can mean 6 long finite periods of time which just happen to coincide exactly with the book of nature! - Grow up!
Why is it so hard for you to understand that the Hebrew word "yom" has four literal definitions?
You are acting like a child who is wrong but wants to argue.
You use the term "mytho-history" as if you know its origins.
Your spell checker identified it as an issue, but you used it anyway!
You are in the truth business. Right?
When did truth become relative?
The resurrection is a salvation issue! - fool!
The age of the Earth is NOT a salvation issue! - GROW UP!!!!!
You think that a 4.5662 billion year old Earth is less of a miracle?
That shows lack of education or willful ignorance.
God has the ability to stretch or compress time. Right?
A day is like a thousand years. A thousand years is like a "watch" in the night - About 3 hours. - Right
14 billion years is less than a blink of an eye to God!
He is eternal with no beginning and no end. - Right?
Read Isaiah 55. We do not think like God.
Do you still believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth?
Why not?
The Church taught that folklore theology for over 1800 years!
How many centuries will it take for you to cast off your folklore theology?
Will you pass it on to your children and make them act like lemmings also?
I am not arguing that God could NOT have Created everything in 144 hours or 1.4 seconds if He chose to do so.
If He did the laws of Physics would have to be different than they are!!
But, They are NOT!
Therefore, 144 hours for the Creation event is in error!
The Earth is 4.5662 billion years old.
God Created the first microbial cell i.e. LIFE ~3.8 billion years ago with "let there be light" allowing Solar radiation and light to reach the surface of the Earth.
God Created the first sea creatures about 540 million years ago (Actual accurate dates are still being debated)
God Created Adam and Eve 50, 000 - 150, 000 years ago. (Accurate dates are still being debated) Carbon 14 dating is unreliable past 40,000 years. (Note: There is a new study suggesting that Carbon 14 dating can be extended to 55,000 years. I'll wait for further peer reviewed responses)
Adam and Eve did NOT evolve from any other Bi-pedal Primate!
God has not changed. - Right?
His physics has not changed. - Right?
He Created our curiosity to study His Creation. - Right?
He Created or minds and bodies to build instruments to study His Creation. Right?
I do not expect you to listen to some goober like me here on TH-cam.
Search: Dr. Hugh Ross.
- Reasons to Believe.
- Paradox Bro on TH-cam for his Sunday class.
- Sentinel Apologetics (not affiliated with Dr. Ross) on TH-cam for dozens and dozens of Dr. Ross videos.
- Dr. Ross on TH-cam in general for dozens more.
- He has written 23 books.
- He has been a Pastor for over 45 years.
- He has a PhD in Astronomy from Toronto University.
"6 24hr period clearly spoken of..."
Clearly? If it was so clear, there wouldn't be so many sincere Christians on different sides of it.
Conversely, the resurrection is something that nobody disagrees about because it actually *is* clear.
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@@MutsPub then God has lied about 6 days, how does it fit your millions of years when you read in Exodus 20 for in six days God created the heavens and the earth, oh by the way the word day there is Yom and the old day is as a thousand years you better read 2 Peter it has nothing to do with creation but with the coming judgment and patience of God But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly people.
8But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day. 9The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not willing for any to perish, but for all to come to repentance.
A New Heaven and Earth
10But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and [c]its works will be [d]discovered .
In the context, the word day in Genesis 1 refers to six 24-hour days. Every time it appears with “evening and morning” or with a number like “sixth day,” it refers to a 24-hour day.
Did God create the whole universe, including the original plants, animals, and first two people (Adam and Eve) in six literal 24-hour days? Or did creation take place over millions of years?
To answer that, we should remember that the original readers of Genesis were not scientists or Hebrew scholars. Rather, they were former slaves-mostly uneducated- on their way to the Promised Land. The fathers were commanded to teach their children (Deuteronomy 6:1-7), so the Hebrew language in Genesis 1 must have been very clear to the common people, even to children.
When we look carefully at Genesis 1, in Hebrew or even in English, it is clear that God created everything in six literal (24-hour) days. First, we are told that He created the earth in darkness and then created light. Then He called the light “day” and He called the darkness “night.” And then He said (in the original Hebrew) “and [there] was evening and [there] was morning, one day.” He repeated the same statement at the end of the second day through the sixth day.
So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Everywhere else in the Old Testament, when the Hebrew word for “day” (יוםֹ, yom) appears with “evening” or “morning” or is modified by a number (e.g., “sixth day” or “five days”), it always means a 24-hour day.
On Day Four God further showed that these were literal days by telling us the purpose for which He created the sun, moon, and stars-so we could tell time: literal years, literal seasons, and literal days.
Then in Exodus 20:8-11 God commanded the Israelites to work six literal “days” and rest on the seventh because He created in six “days” (using the same Hebrew word).
Furthermore, Jesus and the New Testament apostles read Genesis 1-11 as straightforward historical narrative. There are additional good scholarly reasons for coming to that conclusion.1
There is no biblical or scientific reason to be ashamed of believing in a recent six-day creation. God has spoken clearly and truthfully. Will you trust His Word over the arrogant claims of sinful men?
In your so called long age you have maligned God who is capable and of creating in a short period of time ,for He is above all and beyond all ,He spoke into existence all things as did Christ with his miracles for He is the creator , you need to go back and read your bible fellow.
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This is something I have struggeled with, I have looked at verious science videos by Christians such as Spike Psarris looking for various things that are proofs to show atheists that demand proof, and I still keep coming back to faith.
Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
We can only come in faith, I have often said that when we cross from this life to the next, faith cannot and does not work there because it is the true reality, when you come to the full knowledge that God is real on the other side, then you canot have saving faith because faith is believing without proof, once proof comes then faith is then rendered null and void.
To try and find proof for the atheists goes against the teaching of having faith.
Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Heb 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
Faith produces actions that are in accordance with the faith that produced them.
Sadly one of the things several atheists have said to me, is when I post scripture they ask why am I posting scriptures when they do not believe the bible, to them it is the ramblings of ancient goat herders or rambling about a flying spaghetti monster.
They reject the very thing that produces saving faith.
if we could produce proof that proof then denies faith, if they come to the conclusion that God is real via some proof then faith is destroyed in them because of that proof.
Zeal to see them saved must still go by the way of faith or we deny the very substance of our Christian walk.
He didn't say he had 'proof" of the resurrection. He said he will show you why he believes it from probably scientific evidence. Evidence s not proof, so faith is still required. Our faith is not blind faith, it is based on evidence like reliable eye witnesses to name one.
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Right, I totally agree our faith is not blind faith, I have seen enough various videos of things that are good evidence.
There is a stone memorial on one side of the red sea, the words Pharoah and death can still be read, there are other acheological finds that also show us evidence, such as Egypts interaction with Israel,the Merneptah Stele that mentions Israel by name.
A very good video is "The Accuracy of Bible Prophecy"
Proof does not deny faith...if a random person in the street gave me a pill and said it would cure my infection, I could trust him but it would be blind faith as i have no evidence to know he is safe to prescribe or even know what my illness is, or what that pill is. If a doctor in a hospital gave me a pill, I would be far better positioned to believe what he is saying and that the pill is beneficial to my body. Evidence of authenticity and reliability can help give a foundation to build from. In the end, spiritual reality cannot really be fully understood by physical reality but physical reality is where we start.
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@Peter James Ledwith
I understand that we start with a physical world.
Faith in God without proof is what God is looking for.
I am sure you are well aware of the faith hall of fame Hebrews ch 11
They all acted in faith.
Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
That is why it is faith, because we can believe the things God has said without knowing for sure.
I do not know for sure that there will be a New Jerusalem, but we are told there will be, I have no evidence to prove there will be a New Jerusalem, so I must take it on faith that there will be.
It is said that about 2/3 of all bible prophecies have come to pass, I Believe that is true so then I can rest assured that the other 1/3 will also come to pass.
For me faith is believing without proof, The Jews required a sign, a proof and none was given save the sign of the prophet Jonah.
I do believe that because God was doing a new thing, and knew the Jews would fight against it, that Jesus and the apostles did many many miracles and still so many refused to believe.
@@dennishagans6339 yeah....I get what you are saying. But even moses needed evidence that God was sending him...even after talking to a burning Bush. Gideon did his fleece twice. The Jews did get the sign of jonah.
I don't personally think that seeking evidence for the existence of God is a bad thing. Of course that only goes do far...it does require faith to take it further. Some know that God exists but choose to reject him.
why not look at genesis 1, the bible's cosmology and age is very very different from modern copernican cosmology. reread the bible and just stick with it. do not turn to modernity.
God created man and put him in a garden. He then demonstrated to Adam a creation of another one of all the creatures so there was no confusion how they got there. He also demonstrated his lordship over those creatures.
And where was that Garden located?
"I see the actual bones" - do you know how to vet that?
In general, everyone should take this approach to science: if you don't know how to vet it, don't rely on it. Do you know how to vet virology?
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Regarding the timeline of creation stated in Genesis 1 of the Bible, many people think that creation occurred within a 7 "earth-day" period. However, if one reads the actual text of the Bible carefully, it is very clear that the “days” mentioned in Genesis 1 are not referring to the assumed 24-hour earth- days with which we are all accustomed. Because, what is a “day” on earth? Isn’t a "earth-day” the single revolution of the earth around its axis? (By the way, science has shown that the rotation of the earth has not been constant over earth's history. Additionally, every celestial body has a different length for its "day".) According to the Bible, the Earth was not "formed" until the 3rd day of creation. Prior to the 3rd day of creation, the earth was "without form and void". So, how could an "unformed" earth have rotated about its non-existent axis during the first two days of creation to provide a measure of time? Clearly, God was using a different measure of time for a “day” during the “seven days of creation”. In other words, God was not using an “earth-day” as a unit measure of time during creation. To think that God would use an "earth-based time clock" to measure the creation of the universe is akin to the out-dated geocentric belief that the universe revolves around the earth. Even though God is everywhere at all times, God did not have to be "on" earth [Obviously, since the earth had not even been formed until the third "day" of creation.] and therefore not limited by an earthly time frame, when He created the heavens and the earth. (By the way, when was the clock invented? When was the unit measure of time for a second, a minute, an hour, a 24-hour day established? These are all relatively new innovations. So, how could they have measured time at the moment of creation.) God is beyond heaven, earth ... and time.
Reasons to Believe would agree with you and so do I as a Christian.
I was just about to address this but you got to it first! Well said. It seems to me that the 7 days of the creation of the world are 7 different ages. Must like the "days of Noah" they weren't literally just a few days but many many years. It's possible that one day could be billions of years long. We might even still be in the 7th day as God is resting now and no longer shows himself to humans like how he used to. But I have to keep reading my Bible to be certain of that.
If we read the Bible the way YEC wanted us too, we wouldn't only be YEC, we would be forced to be Flat Earthers, too.
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Science is the study of physical nature. Physical nature is God's work. So science the study of God's work. One aspect of it (physical nature).
There is a saying by a wise man. If you are to open minded, your brain will fall out. Big problem with your theory, you left out much of the context that leaves no other option other than 7 literal days. I suggest study the bible more, read commentaries and listen to TH-cam less:) God states almost monotonously, then there was evening and morning the first day, then there was evening and morning the second day, evening and morning the third day, etc etc all the way to the sixth day then God rested. It's very hard to take God as saying anything other than 7 literal days when he speaks of evening and morning, singular, which only happen in a day. If you can look past something this simple in scripture and still try to cram millions of years into genesis, I would not trust anything else you have to say about the bible.
I find it ironic that it is actually the OEC position that is (mis)treating Genesis as a science book by applying naturalistic preconceptions. The plain exegetical approach is rejected because it cannot be reconciled naturalistically, yet the plain meaning of the 6 days is not naturalistic and has traditionally been accepted as an account of miraculous events.
Geocentrism was debunked a long time ago.
I love this! Understanding even a part of God’s wonder in creation, points to God. It doesn’t disprove God.
I don't know if Dr. Tour will see this, but monetization will encourage TH-cam to push your content more. Even if it isn't to earn money, monetization may be a smart move for the increased reach alone.
SCIENCE,,is man's feeble attempt to figure out how GOD did it !!!!
Why do you guys think the Bible can answer these questions none of these primitive authors even knew cells existed.
They knew that God created all that is.
@Denis S They certainly claimed to know but obviously there is no way to know that. Nothing in nature comes with a manufacturer label saying who's god made what.
@@Arminius420
For those with eyes to see there is.
@@deniss2623 That's like me saying you can only see my imaginary friend if you will just open your eyes and believe. That's just pure deception to be fair.
@@Arminius420
If your eyes are closed you are not going to see that which is real.
About 30 minutes in they're talking about making life in a lab. I'm thinking even if they succeed in making life in a lab, all they have proven is that an intelligent being with a vast amount of knowledge can manipulate matter to create life. That's far from a purely naturalistic explanation of life without God. In fact, it would seem to promote the opposite explanation; that an all-intelligent, all-powerful being can manipulate the matter which he created in the first place, to create life, which, once sufficiently intelligent can begin to question the existence of that very being.
It amazes me the gall or perhaps I should say the idiocy of some people who think "If I, an intelligent being, can just gain enough knowledge to create life in a laboratory, I can prove once and for all that there was no intelligent being who created me."
Well said.
In the first it would show that life can be created without a supernatural entity. If enough evidence is gathered to show that conditions on a planet can be right for life to emerge then in the second it shows that life can arise naturally.
Whether it actually did or not is up for debate but it's a serious blow to those who think that life can only arise by supernatural means.
Thanks for sharing your ignorance of science.
No, Gould's theory did not conflict with Darwin.
Tour is such a shameless liar.
@@my0wn911 How do you know there was nothing?
Initial few minutes were awkward. The host should have exercised some discretion. Love Dr.Tour and respect his integrity and expertise.
A third background - I came from totally secular home and was an atheist. Jesus came for me via biology class and asked "Do you think this happened by accident?" I work on the basis that God created the universe etc, but science is trying to work out how. :-D