About Citlali's self cryo application, it should work similar to Diona's E. (Doesnt cause you to freeze but gives frozen aura) The wording on Diona is the same.
@@s01392 I think the reason it doesnt freeze you is because you cant get frozen when shielded. You can try it with diona, her shield also applies self cryo on cast and they have the same wording.
@@brodericksiz625 I thought shield prevented it but if not, idk the reason why Diona and Layla's self cryo app doesnt cause getting frozen. U can try with both characters.
I still find it a bit strange that the Traveler has a whole exclusive set of constellations just for story mode, but there will probably be some lore explanation for this.
They did. She used to hit as hard as 1 Character off field, and as hard as 2 characters on field. Now she only hits as hard as 1.5 characters on field 😂 She doesn't need buffs, trust
some people has already pointed it out, but yeh i think the self "cryo" application of citlali works similar to diona's and layla's self "cryo" application, that its technically a "frozen status" (according to wiki), and it will actually exist as a separate aura if you already have a hydro aura on the character. you can try this out yourself too and see that this is actually the case. This is just a very convoluted way of saying that you will not get "freeze" (the status where you can't move) with citlali's self "cryo" application if it works like diona's and layla's.
I was kinda planning a full on burgeon team/bloom/hyperbloom with nahida, furina, ei, and mavuika but after her nerfs i don't know if i should pull or save for her reruns in the future. I know she can be a great dps but her kit heavily relies on other characters from natlan. As an f2p that had to skip xilonen banner this is a bit of a let down for me
@@AiCubes7560 if u use her in burgeon.. She would works amazing i think.. Plus she can activate cinder city, with burgeon basically we got pyro and dendro dmg buff.. Basically we can skip or just use her burst in burgeon team when available
5:40 this is probably Frozen aura actually (like how it is with Diona and Layla - it says Cryo for them as well, but it's really the Frozen aura). Frozen aura is also what Cryo Abyss mage shields have and it doesn't react with Hydro, so it shouldn't freeze you if you are affected by Hydro (just like how you can't freeze Abyss mages if you apply Hydro to them).
At first, Citlali only buffed cryo damage at C6. And now Citlali doesn't buff Cryo DPS at all anymore. That's nice. Really showing cryo some tough love there Mihoyo 😂😂😂
One thing I don’t see anyone acknowledging is how expensive Mavuika’s DPS team is. Her DPS team consists of Furina, Bennett and Xilonen. 3 top-tier supports that can power 3 notable strong teams on their own. Using Mavuika’s best team in one side of the abyss means not using some of the strongest options on the other side. The teammates can’t be swapped either. Furina is needed because Mavuika’s best dps source is her CA which can’t trigger XQ/Yelan burst, then Bennett is just her best buffer, Xilonen to burst consistently. All that cost just to end up as slightly better than another DPS that only needs Bennett. Swap out Furina for Yelan/XQ and Xilonen for Kazuha/Sucrose/Zhongli(archaic) and she will still do damage close to Mavuika’s in Mavuika’s best team. Yeah damage-wise Mavuika will still be stronger in he best team but at least Arle doesn't hold Furina and Xilonen hostage. In-turn, allowing the player to keep other strong options. Not to mention, due to no restrictions, as a DPS, Arle is more flexible too. And this is just Abyss we talking about, IDK if Mavuika will be a comfortable use in IT mode with her burst reliant playstyle and restrictions. As of now. Mavuika is the most skippable archon. Unless V4 changes something major or makes her a great off-field. Mavuika is just another DPS with high cost.
Yeah I'd rather recommend people to get arlecchino instead unless they really really want mavuika or collecting all archons. She's disappointing to me as I was hoping her to be very good off field dps or support. She isn't better xiangling. She isn't better bennett. She's just another dps.
when your damage numbers are as high as hers and arlechinno the "best" team no longer matters. the only character she desperately needs is xilonen. her base attack is ridiculously high, so along with most 5 star claymores, especially if its the high base attack ones like her sig or mountain king bennet loses value. bennet is still best but he is far less impactful than he is for every other attack carry in the game. you can easily replace furina with rosaria and with Mavuika's front loaded damage melting it will still clear fine. In IT DPS really doesn't matter so you can just use her normal attacks instead of charge attacks which then opens up her teams massively and gives her more fighting spirit. she also still works as a support in IT. people are way to hyper focused on the best way to use a character.
Mavuika doesn't "need" Bennett or Furina to still be a powerhouse. Her teams with Citlali and Rosaria or Emilie burn are also broken. She acts as her own Bennett with the buffs she grants herself.
calm your tits. you using her as main dps means your not clearing the abyss, since clearing the abyss requires some level of optimization but your plan is the complete opposite of that. which means youll be using citlali in the open world as main dps, which means youre not affected by the changes since open wolrd enemies die instantly even if you have a shitty build. dmg multiplier nerfs dont really affect non-abyss players so calm your tits down.
I feel like the main issue with Mavuika being slightly higher than Arlecchino is she is now just a less versatile version of Arlecchino, which makes her pull value less than Arlecchino for f2p characters. Its almost as if making her the most oversaturated role (pyro on-field main dps) was a bad idea. I was gonna pull for Citlali already, so this doesn't really affect me.
Nah, I love Citlali as a character... But if I'm being honest, she needs to do a little bit more than what she does. I feel like, in comparison to other characters like Zhongli, Kazuha or even Xilonen, she offers less than any of them... I hope I'm in the wrong, because I really wanna have her, but idk, it feels like she's gonna be mid
Theory crafters had to promote melt mavuika during during v2 and harder now because after calcs came out the said she was the best dps... then after her melt was deemed impractical, because it required you to either imput really really fast which wasnt practical for realistic situations or slow down her already long rotation time. some people did calcs for melt arlecchino, it was said to be at least one percent better then the furina varrent. So if the melt was impractical and the furina was weaker, then their claim that mavuka was the best dps was gonna have egg all over it. So they promoted it harder to save credability. Now its not even a debate on whos better. The v3 mavukas melt is close or barely stronger, less than 1% than the v2 furina varrent meaning melt arlecchino "might" be the new meta. With out needing so many 5 stars and team restriction and icd issues as the team calculated was arl citlai rosaria and bennet. With arl being 1.03% stronger in the explanation than the furina version of version 2. (Aerongaming) 107 melt mavuika v3(new) and 106 vape v2 mavuika(old) . Thats a less then 1% difference meaning with basic math melt arlecchino would have a less then a .5% advantage. Thats assuming mavuika melt actually worked which realistically doesnt. Jstern calc are just that calcs they only assume possible damage not realistic. People in mavuika reddit have mix feelings about him atm.
From what I've seen from Mavuika + Citlali's gameplay, she only melts the initial burst and maybe one CA, but after that it's all Citlali forward melting.
@@tapugamiCitlali is not needed since she doesn't do much besides letting Mavuika melt 2 hits. Furina or Kazuha would be better for bigger buffs and consistent vaping with Furina.
@@fatuusdottore did you not hear about the literal nation of Cryo coming up next? Can we not wait for that before cryo gets it's much needed help? It's honestly not cryo's time to shine.
No, you are completely wrong about the Citlali's change, this effect of momentarily applying cryo to yourself is something that Diona and Layla already have, literally read the description of their E, it has exactly the same wording "when the shield is deployed, X will have Cryo applied to her briefly", this only serves to remove auras but does not react, it does not matter if they are applied with hydro or pyro, it will never cause self frozen or melt, I find it impressive that so many people are interpreting this change as something negative.
I actually wanted to get Citlali's C6 to buff Ganyu's and Citlali's damage, but these nerves will cause me to stop and C2. Less money for Mihoyo, more money for me.
So Citlali's more of a mashup between Xilonen and Diona rather than a 5* Reverse Melt Rosaria? That's... so disappointing, lmao. 10/10 character, I love her, but I can't justify pulling for an incredibly niche support that specializes in buffing one of the most over-crowded and already-minmaxed elements in the entire game.
she kinda also is a 5* rosaria because her cryo app canresult in some melts (on top of shield + buffs). but yes, she's buffing pyro and hydro carries, which were generally already strong
Okay i was checking the comments and oh man oh man now they are all just calling mavuica bad because of the nerfs that she actually needed and now saying 'oh no she's now not better than c2 arle and neuv' like brother she is still better than arle and neuv at co in their respective team comps and like the nerfs where not even that much bad and even some people where saying she should get nerfed and now looks like these are the same guys who are hating
Interesting buff for Lan yan but then again, I didn't find the 8s duration problematic in the first place. When the shield disappeared, it just meant the VV buff had run out.
Presumably, they made citlali with chasca also in mind and she's definitely an upgrade....but she doesn't shred cryo....1/3 of chasca's damage....shit makes no sense
This new changes cement my decision to run maulani mauvika Emilie xilonen as my main team and chasca Bennet furina ororon as my second main team, with kinich Bennet furina and xiangling as the alternate for when I need to face hydro enemies
Weird how people are tryna cope that the pyro archon isnt as good a support as 4 star Bennet, isn't as good a sub DPS as 4 Star Xangling and now im seeing commnets wishing it was Arlechinno who was getting nerfed cuz random fatui lady is more powerful in her optimal team vs mavuika. All makuika has is the ability to be healed... but just get good... i dont think i can remember my arlechinno ever dying as she kills everything so fast. The pyro archon isnt the BIS in any niche... Is she good... Yes, she is. But we are swimming in 5 star pyro DPS. Its almost a joke hoyo decided to release her as a main dps with a lititle sub dps and only becomes a defacto good support at c2... Had they simply made Mavuika an off field dps with a buff as big as bennet that isnt circle impact everyone would have been happy... And if they added a heal then she would be the best unit in the game hands down. Watch them give this kit to the pyro dragon and Mavuika nation will drop her immediately. But what did we get... Another fucking DPS thats best teammate is Bennet. Wooo... As a day one player I can not stand Bennet and hardly ever play him. I wanted someone else for Chasca and im annoyed the ONLY buffing pyro is Bennet. So he must be used in certain teams. Like come on hoyo let me put Bennet on the bench for good.
It's even worse when you realize that mualani, kinich, chasca or potentially future natlan dpses would greatly benefit from off field supporting pyro archon 💀💀
I honestly i am stressful about how to build team around mavuika. My neuvillete want furina and i can't afford citlali. While without furina or citlali it's pretty much impossible to trigger vape/melt on mavuika since her playstyle revolve on CA.
I was excited for Mavuika because her name was inspired off of Māori gods…. They make her one of the most expensive character’s in the game since the gap between her bis and secondary options are huge. They give her the most boring gameplay and kit and on top of that she doesn’t even out preform characters I already have.
Just don’t pull for the motorcycle 😂 imagine there are flying gods and the most OP element archon rides a motorcycle 😂 that’s so disgusting and matches 0.000000000.0000%
Tell me how tf is Citlali suppose to work in Arlecchino melt team when her cryo application is not that good? Unless you bring some anemo char to fused their burst into cryo then maybe it could be possible for Arlecchino NA to melt or add another cryo unit but lose vv shred
The answer is bringing another off field cryo such as Rosaria, Kaeya or Ganyu which also gives you cryo resonance for extra crit. So it's even more infuriating that she doesn't shred cryo. At least she would buff it with scroll.
Bring another cryo, that's the only way Arle can consistently melt, anemo characters like Kazuha or Sucrose infusing cryo won't work unless you're speedrunning and the enemy dies in one hit.
Mavuika is still the #1 dps in the game. It makes zero sense for people to complain about her on-field damage nerf. She’s like 10% stronger than the second best dps character in the game (Mualani) and like 12% better than Arlecchino. And her C2 still needs a SERIOUS nerf because a 37% jump in damage is the biggest damage increase from a constellation in the entire game. A c2 mavuika does like 2x the damage of most c0 5 stars. Arlecchino and Mualani at c4 and c5 are STILL weaker than Mavuika at c2. And mavuika at c3 still likely outdamages all c6 characters in the game.
Right now Mavuika has equal damage as Arle for the same time rotation tho. The only thing that should be nerfed - her constellations since they are still way too broken
Who tf needed her to be 64237th pyro on fielder?! Literally every natlan char would benefit from their archon if she was just a XL and bennett combo, stop defending idiotic hoyo decisions for once!
Mavuika DPS nerf didnt really change her. Still a top tier DPS. Off field already good so no changes needed. Those who think otherwise need your expectations curbed.
Guys arrchelino riding is crazy 😮😮many here are complaining how mauvika best team (furina,bennet,xilonen) is restrictive and will perform similar to arrch best teams which is absolutely false .. mauvika is far stronger than arrchelino is.. saying she's not worth dps build in comparison to investment is insane.. let me tell you she only need 1 natlan character to proc her burst that's only downside.. even with any --random team(sucrose,rosaria,mauvika,xilonen) . Vs ( arrchelino,kazuha ,xilonen,bennet) she will still deal more damage than her..😂.. let me tell you she is not perfect but many people are actually hating her or not pulling for her is because of how strong as dps..she is.. people don't want to accept their favourite character (arrch,neuv) are weaker than her.. hence all these allegations.. and it's not like she is bad as support.. she still applies pyro to Enemies while offield.which no pyro character other than xiangling can(and her pyro application is already very consistent which itself is ++ for any hydro or cyro dps just imagine those vape and reverse melt)))(and she works with natlan support artifact (40%elemtal damage))).buffing her more as sub dps will break the game and then people will complaint about powercreep 🤡. so don't come under influence of any random rage baiter.. any archon is must pull genshin know what they are doing..so pull for her with no tension..👌👍👍🔥 And one more thing if she actually turned out to bad which is not possible.. but in case it happened i am telling you (it will backfire them back ..) it will be become zhongli situation and she will rise again with more buffs 😂😂 on Top 👑
Mavuika is expensive but she doesn't need ER at all which is a big thing. Two hits from xilonen can easily fill half of her burst. You can switch to xilonen while running, hit enemies twice, press e then hit them again twice and her burst will be ready😂
Idk, ER would make her kit more flexible. She has restrictions that aren't going to age well. The fact that she's tied to a character as flexible as Xilonen makes it worse, as she'll have more comps available to her going forward.
@@nationalgeografic7687 Because chances are if you have Arle's best team, you'll also have Mavuika's best team. That and they do around the same dps anyway(Mavuika 10-15% higher).
she has no potential in constellations, unlike the same Arle. what does Arle get on c6? an atomic bomb what does Mavuyka get? something so terrible that I don't even know if I should play it, despite my love for her
COME ON GUYS‼ GENSHIN TOLD US THIS IN HER NAME. THEY ARE LITERALLY MAKING HER LIVE UP TO HER NAMEWITH THAT NERF: MAVUIKA = MA-WEAKER (WHEN PRONOUNCED RIGHT) 🤣🤣🤣
Of course it's still worth pulling for her, haven't you seen the video? Even at c0, she's still one of the best DPS in the game, in addition to having all her off-field utility.
Theory crafters had to promote melt mavuika during during v2 and harder now because after calcs came out the said she was the best dps... then after her melt was deemed impractical, because it required you to either imput really really fast which wasnt practical for realistic situations or slow down her already long rotation time. some people did calcs for melt arlecchino, it was said to be at least one percent better then the furina varrent. So if the melt was impractical and the furina was weaker, then their claim that mavuka was the best dps was gonna have egg all over it. So they promoted it harder to save credability. Now its not even a debate on whos better. The v3 mavukas melt is close or barely stronger, less than 1% than the v2 furina varrent meaning melt arlecchino "might" be the new meta. With out needing so many 5 stars and team restriction and icd issues as the team calculated was arl citlai rosaria and bennet. With arl being 1.03% stronger in the explanation than the furina version of version 2. (Aerongaming) 107 melt mavuika v3(new) and 106 vape v2 mavuika(old) . Thats a less then 1% difference meaning with basic math melt arlecchino would have a less then a .5% advantage. Thats assuming mavuika melt actually worked which realistically doesnt. Jstern calc are just that calcs they only assume possible damage not realistic. People in mavuika reddit have mix feelings about him atm.
is a c2r1 arle haver lowkey glad they're nerfing mavuika. sorry to her mains but it felt extremely unfair to have a c0 character outdamaging a c2r1 character of the same niche that came out less than a year ago
For mavuika yes, but she was so strong before that even after the nerf she is in par with neuvilette, arlechinno and Mualani in damage dealing while also having Some suportive options, so its just balancing her to not powercreeping everything.
@@redsky397 So in short, no lol. If she's as good as the top tier main DPS characters while still having off field support potential it doesn't look bad.
I REALLY NEED HELP GUYS I like both mavuika and chasca , but I can decide who to pull .I kinda wanna get citlali as I don't have zhongli or baizou but that's that. Rn idk who to pull I'm ar60 with at least good amount of useable characters tho not much . Rn I'm on 25 pity and I'm guaranteed have 75 pulls I also lost 2 times in a row so I think my next 50/50 has more chances of winning by the new system I guess . Please have me decide. My mind is going crazy as I like the bike but I also love how chasca can just kill enemies without getting hits most of times .
hard cause you like both. Mavuika should be the more "flexible" unit tho since she can off-field as well. the other choice is take a risk and pull Chasca now and hope you have enough to get Mavuika. personally prefer the safer option
Theory crafters had to promote melt mavuika during during v2 and harder now because after calcs came out the said she was the best dps... then after her melt was deemed impractical, because it required you to either imput really really fast which wasnt practical for realistic situations or slow down her already long rotation time. some people did calcs for melt arlecchino, it was said to be at least one percent better then the furina varrent. So if the melt was impractical and the furina was weaker, then their claim that mavuka was the best dps was gonna have egg all over it. So they promoted it harder to save credability. Now its not even a debate on whos better. The v3 mavukas melt is close or barely stronger, less than 1% than the v2 furina varrent meaning melt arlecchino "might" be the new meta. With out needing so many 5 stars and team restriction and icd issues as the team calculated was arl citlai rosaria and bennet. With arl being 1.03% stronger in the explanation than the furina version of version 2. (Aerongaming) 107 melt mavuika v3(new) and 106 vape v2 mavuika(old) . Thats a less then 1% difference meaning with basic math melt arlecchino would have a less then a .5% advantage. Thats assuming mavuika melt actually worked which realistically doesnt. Jstern calc are just that calcs they only assume possible damage not realistic. People in mavuika reddit have mix feelings about him atm.
That sucks. Lan Yan is so uninteresting, and nerfing Mavuika as an Archon is just disgusting. As much as I love Furina, she is very OP, as is Neuvillette, and I think as an Archon that is supposed to be THE BEST of that element, Mavuika deserved to be OP. Citlali I can understand but Cryo is already on the floor so what does it matter if she is a bit OP? It might revive the element a little maybe. While it's good to see an MC that isn't terrible or at best mid for once, Lan Yan really didn't need any buffs. She's an anemo shielder FFS lmao, the only people who will use her are people who like her NPC design. They should have nerfed Arlechomo instead, tbh. And as much as I love Xiangling, it is kind of time to replace her. And if Neuvillette is allowed to be as OP as he is, I don't see why Mavuika can't?
@@fatuusdottore Mavuika is stronger than Arle and Neuvilette. Before nerfs, her c0 was around the same power as c2 Arle, and c2 Mavuika was around the same power as c6 Arle. After the nerfs, she isnt that much ahead, but still has higher dps than her at the same cons.
Stronget is still debatable as it require mavuika to mely her burst c1 and c4 which isnt reallistically possible for the majority of players unless you slow down your rotation lowering your dps anf iys said to be equal to arlecchino melt assuming your melting with mavuika...
And have her have less pull value than arle? Arle already has the same dps as of rn, so why bother pulling for her in that regard. More restrictive team
nah. mavuika is a direct blatant arlechino powercreep by mihoyo. hate this mihoyo bullcrap. they literally made pyro the most stale roster of characters. yea. i think ill give up on mavuka. i was planning to get her on her rerun but damn her kit sucks. i guess i'll just continue to use mavuka mod on arlechino. i just hope mihoyo dont fvck up capitano or the cryo archon.
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About Citlali's self cryo application, it should work similar to Diona's E. (Doesnt cause you to freeze but gives frozen aura) The wording on Diona is the same.
@@lordfifth4520 I hope ur right.
@@s01392 I think the reason it doesnt freeze you is because you cant get frozen when shielded. You can try it with diona, her shield also applies self cryo on cast and they have the same wording.
@@lordfifth4520 What do you mean you can't get frozen when shielded? I'm pretty sure at least half the time I've ever been frozen I was shielded
@@brodericksiz625 I thought shield prevented it but if not, idk the reason why Diona and Layla's self cryo app doesnt cause getting frozen. U can try with both characters.
pretty sure that, for whatever reason, only self hydro app can cause frozen, not self cryo app
I legit do NOT care if they nerfed Mavuika's damage please make her off-field capabilities better I BEGGGGG
I still find it a bit strange that the Traveler has a whole exclusive set of constellations just for story mode, but there will probably be some lore explanation for this.
If they're nerfing mavuika's DPS I'm hoping they buff her sub DPS to balance her kit
They did. She used to hit as hard as 1 Character off field, and as hard as 2 characters on field. Now she only hits as hard as 1.5 characters on field 😂
She doesn't need buffs, trust
She needed that nerf, her numbers at c0 was higher than Arle c2
@@JFarenciShe needs buffs.
They should go back to her original kit. Arlechomo should have gotten the nerfs.
I'm actually praying for a unit that buffs Hu tao so these ArleMidno Midvuika toe suckers would actually stfu for once
Thst has to be the most slow minded sentence I've ever heard@fatuusdottore
some people has already pointed it out, but yeh i think the self "cryo" application of citlali works similar to diona's and layla's self "cryo" application, that its technically a "frozen status" (according to wiki), and it will actually exist as a separate aura if you already have a hydro aura on the character. you can try this out yourself too and see that this is actually the case.
This is just a very convoluted way of saying that you will not get "freeze" (the status where you can't move) with citlali's self "cryo" application if it works like diona's and layla's.
I just want them to buff Mavuika's off-field, I want to use her as my off-field pyro app so bad ...
Sameee!!!!
I was kinda planning a full on burgeon team/bloom/hyperbloom with nahida, furina, ei, and mavuika but after her nerfs i don't know if i should pull or save for her reruns in the future. I know she can be a great dps but her kit heavily relies on other characters from natlan. As an f2p that had to skip xilonen banner this is a bit of a let down for me
@@AiCubes7560 if u use her in burgeon.. She would works amazing i think.. Plus she can activate cinder city, with burgeon basically we got pyro and dendro dmg buff..
Basically we can skip or just use her burst in burgeon team when available
@@AiCubes7560 HHAHA BRO SKIPPED BEST SUPPORT IN THE GAME :d
5:40 this is probably Frozen aura actually (like how it is with Diona and Layla - it says Cryo for them as well, but it's really the Frozen aura). Frozen aura is also what Cryo Abyss mage shields have and it doesn't react with Hydro, so it shouldn't freeze you if you are affected by Hydro (just like how you can't freeze Abyss mages if you apply Hydro to them).
At first, Citlali only buffed cryo damage at C6.
And now Citlali doesn't buff Cryo DPS at all anymore. That's nice. Really showing cryo some tough love there Mihoyo 😂😂😂
One thing I don’t see anyone acknowledging is how expensive Mavuika’s DPS team is. Her DPS team consists of Furina, Bennett and Xilonen. 3 top-tier supports that can power 3 notable strong teams on their own. Using Mavuika’s best team in one side of the abyss means not using some of the strongest options on the other side. The teammates can’t be swapped either. Furina is needed because Mavuika’s best dps source is her CA which can’t trigger XQ/Yelan burst, then Bennett is just her best buffer, Xilonen to burst consistently.
All that cost just to end up as slightly better than another DPS that only needs Bennett. Swap out Furina for Yelan/XQ and Xilonen for Kazuha/Sucrose/Zhongli(archaic) and she will still do damage close to Mavuika’s in Mavuika’s best team. Yeah damage-wise Mavuika will still be stronger in he best team but at least Arle doesn't hold Furina and Xilonen hostage. In-turn, allowing the player to keep other strong options. Not to mention, due to no restrictions, as a DPS, Arle is more flexible too. And this is just Abyss we talking about, IDK if Mavuika will be a comfortable use in IT mode with her burst reliant playstyle and restrictions.
As of now. Mavuika is the most skippable archon. Unless V4 changes something major or makes her a great off-field. Mavuika is just another DPS with high cost.
Yeah I'd rather recommend people to get arlecchino instead unless they really really want mavuika or collecting all archons.
She's disappointing to me as I was hoping her to be very good off field dps or support. She isn't better xiangling. She isn't better bennett. She's just another dps.
when your damage numbers are as high as hers and arlechinno the "best" team no longer matters. the only character she desperately needs is xilonen. her base attack is ridiculously high, so along with most 5 star claymores, especially if its the high base attack ones like her sig or mountain king bennet loses value. bennet is still best but he is far less impactful than he is for every other attack carry in the game. you can easily replace furina with rosaria and with Mavuika's front loaded damage melting it will still clear fine.
In IT DPS really doesn't matter so you can just use her normal attacks instead of charge attacks which then opens up her teams massively and gives her more fighting spirit. she also still works as a support in IT. people are way to hyper focused on the best way to use a character.
Mavuika doesn't "need" Bennett or Furina to still be a powerhouse. Her teams with Citlali and Rosaria or Emilie burn are also broken. She acts as her own Bennett with the buffs she grants herself.
I'm actually getting Citlali this time.
Well nueveillite needs furina xilonen kazhuha now explain yourself
Mavuika nerfs are funny but needed. I won't use her as main carry anyway, but I would love an off field buff for my Kinich
sameee
ughh why did they nerf citlali's dmg i really wanted her to make her a main dps cause shes my fav from the natlan roster
calm your tits. you using her as main dps means your not clearing the abyss,
since clearing the abyss requires some level of optimization but your plan is the complete opposite of that.
which means youll be using citlali in the open world as main dps,
which means youre not affected by the changes since open wolrd enemies die instantly even if you have a shitty build.
dmg multiplier nerfs dont really affect non-abyss players so calm your tits down.
I feel like the main issue with Mavuika being slightly higher than Arlecchino is she is now just a less versatile version of Arlecchino, which makes her pull value less than Arlecchino for f2p characters.
Its almost as if making her the most oversaturated role (pyro on-field main dps) was a bad idea.
I was gonna pull for Citlali already, so this doesn't really affect me.
i will make every shitty arle main cry with mavuika
Nah, I love Citlali as a character... But if I'm being honest, she needs to do a little bit more than what she does. I feel like, in comparison to other characters like Zhongli, Kazuha or even Xilonen, she offers less than any of them... I hope I'm in the wrong, because I really wanna have her, but idk, it feels like she's gonna be mid
Theory crafters had to promote melt mavuika during during v2 and harder now because after calcs came out the said she was the best dps... then after her melt was deemed impractical, because it required you to either imput really really fast which wasnt practical for realistic situations or slow down her already long rotation time. some people did calcs for melt arlecchino, it was said to be at least one percent better then the furina varrent. So if the melt was impractical and the furina was weaker, then their claim that mavuka was the best dps was gonna have egg all over it. So they promoted it harder to save credability. Now its not even a debate on whos better. The v3 mavukas melt is close or barely stronger, less than 1% than the v2 furina varrent meaning melt arlecchino "might" be the new meta. With out needing so many 5 stars and team restriction and icd issues as the team calculated was arl citlai rosaria and bennet. With arl being 1.03% stronger in the explanation than the furina version of version 2. (Aerongaming) 107 melt mavuika v3(new) and 106 vape v2 mavuika(old) . Thats a less then 1% difference meaning with basic math melt arlecchino would have a less then a .5% advantage. Thats assuming mavuika melt actually worked which realistically doesnt. Jstern calc are just that calcs they only assume possible damage not realistic. People in mavuika reddit have mix feelings about him atm.
Is bennett a must in this mavuika melt team?. Freaking tired of circle impact
@@ryukickdo2652 yes him + xilonen + citlali
From what I've seen from Mavuika + Citlali's gameplay, she only melts the initial burst and maybe one CA, but after that it's all Citlali forward melting.
@@tapugamiCitlali is not needed since she doesn't do much besides letting Mavuika melt 2 hits. Furina or Kazuha would be better for bigger buffs and consistent vaping with Furina.
@@gunit484 but then again you lose another natlan units that mavuika requires nightsoul point from
I wish they pumped up the max fighting spirit to 400 so you could do off field on one rotation, then on field the next.
If they don't buff her support I will just skip her. I don't like the damn bike attacks.
Citlali would have been a great character to give Cryo some needed buffs, but Hoyo clearly dislikes Cryo🤦♀️
on the bright side, she will be great for melt
I wanted her to buff both cryo and physical 😭
Yeah I could see them nerfing her but Cryo needs so much help that tbh it feels unfair
@@fatuusdottore rn the only strong cryo support is shenhe. and yet shenhe has gone missing for ages now.
@@fatuusdottore did you not hear about the literal nation of Cryo coming up next? Can we not wait for that before cryo gets it's much needed help? It's honestly not cryo's time to shine.
No, you are completely wrong about the Citlali's change, this effect of momentarily applying cryo to yourself is something that Diona and Layla already have, literally read the description of their E, it has exactly the same wording "when the shield is deployed, X will have Cryo applied to her briefly", this only serves to remove auras but does not react, it does not matter if they are applied with hydro or pyro, it will never cause self frozen or melt, I find it impressive that so many people are interpreting this change as something negative.
Yea if that's the case then it's a positive!
I actually wanted to get Citlali's C6 to buff Ganyu's and Citlali's damage, but these nerves will cause me to stop and C2. Less money for Mihoyo, more money for me.
I agree with the on field dps damage nerf, but I hope Hoyo buffs Mavuika’s off-field damage.
i want Off field Pyro Sub-DPS.
I dont need a slightly better Dehya
So Citlali's more of a mashup between Xilonen and Diona rather than a 5* Reverse Melt Rosaria? That's... so disappointing, lmao. 10/10 character, I love her, but I can't justify pulling for an incredibly niche support that specializes in buffing one of the most over-crowded and already-minmaxed elements in the entire game.
she kinda also is a 5* rosaria because her cryo app canresult in some melts (on top of shield + buffs). but yes, she's buffing pyro and hydro carries, which were generally already strong
Okay i was checking the comments and oh man oh man now they are all just calling mavuica bad because of the nerfs that she actually needed and now saying 'oh no she's now not better than c2 arle and neuv' like brother she is still better than arle and neuv at co in their respective team comps and like the nerfs where not even that much bad and even some people where saying she should get nerfed and now looks like these are the same guys who are hating
She still needs to be nerfed even more, and buffed for her off-field kit
I think arle now calcs higher
@@skrypnykk.770 well you are not wrong about her of field buff
Interesting buff for Lan yan but then again, I didn't find the 8s duration problematic in the first place. When the shield disappeared, it just meant the VV buff had run out.
Presumably, they made citlali with chasca also in mind and she's definitely an upgrade....but she doesn't shred cryo....1/3 of chasca's damage....shit makes no sense
i really wanted to make citlali a dps but i dont even know if its gonna be good at this point. they nerfed her real hard
Oh no... Anyway, still pulling for both.
Oh no...! Anyways, Mavuika is coming home yes or yes
This new changes cement my decision to run maulani mauvika Emilie xilonen as my main team and chasca Bennet furina ororon as my second main team, with kinich Bennet furina and xiangling as the alternate for when I need to face hydro enemies
Weird how people are tryna cope that the pyro archon isnt as good a support as 4 star Bennet, isn't as good a sub DPS as 4 Star Xangling and now im seeing commnets wishing it was Arlechinno who was getting nerfed cuz random fatui lady is more powerful in her optimal team vs mavuika.
All makuika has is the ability to be healed... but just get good... i dont think i can remember my arlechinno ever dying as she kills everything so fast. The pyro archon isnt the BIS in any niche... Is she good... Yes, she is. But we are swimming in 5 star pyro DPS.
Its almost a joke hoyo decided to release her as a main dps with a lititle sub dps and only becomes a defacto good support at c2...
Had they simply made Mavuika an off field dps with a buff as big as bennet that isnt circle impact everyone would have been happy... And if they added a heal then she would be the best unit in the game hands down. Watch them give this kit to the pyro dragon and Mavuika nation will drop her immediately.
But what did we get... Another fucking DPS thats best teammate is Bennet. Wooo... As a day one player I can not stand Bennet and hardly ever play him.
I wanted someone else for Chasca and im annoyed the ONLY buffing pyro is Bennet. So he must be used in certain teams. Like come on hoyo let me put Bennet on the bench for good.
It's even worse when you realize that mualani, kinich, chasca or potentially future natlan dpses would greatly benefit from off field supporting pyro archon 💀💀
Pyro sovereign is dead. Not only that, wait til u see the lore of the 5.3 weekly
And ngl i refuse to ever build benny, genuinely hate him and his shitty playstyle
Yeah, now I’m oc in maybe I should go with my original plans on getting Zhongli.
Very pathetic that an Archon is only 10% better than Arlecchino. What's the point on going for her now?
To look goofy as fuck attacking with a stupid motorbike. I'm gonna demolish them in the next survey
You also have to consider mualani being slightly better single target than mavika after nerfs
I honestly i am stressful about how to build team around mavuika. My neuvillete want furina and i can't afford citlali. While without furina or citlali it's pretty much impossible to trigger vape/melt on mavuika since her playstyle revolve on CA.
I was excited for Mavuika because her name was inspired off of Māori gods…. They make her one of the most expensive character’s in the game since the gap between her bis and secondary options are huge. They give her the most boring gameplay and kit and on top of that she doesn’t even out preform characters I already have.
Rip my wife Mavuika 😢
Lan Yan seems to be so pretty good, I already love her ♥️♥️
6:00 will happen always when fighting in water surface :)
Just don’t pull for the motorcycle 😂 imagine there are flying gods and the most OP element archon rides a motorcycle 😂 that’s so disgusting and matches 0.000000000.0000%
You think this is gonna stop me pulling for mavuika 😏 your going home mommy biker
It did stop me from being obsessed with getting her cons and weapon. No need to whale next patch
Bruh.
Be fr y'all still gonna pull for her regardless.
isn't layla also apply cryo to herself? but i don't see her getting frozen even if she have hydro before using her skill
Look how they slaughtered my girl
Tell me how tf is Citlali suppose to work in Arlecchino melt team when her cryo application is not that good? Unless you bring some anemo char to fused their burst into cryo then maybe it could be possible for Arlecchino NA to melt or add another cryo unit but lose vv shred
My c1r1 arlecchino team is arlecchino zhongli xiangling bennett
Citlali would be replacing zhongli while xiangling would be replaced by rosaria maybe.
The answer is bringing another off field cryo such as Rosaria, Kaeya or Ganyu which also gives you cryo resonance for extra crit. So it's even more infuriating that she doesn't shred cryo. At least she would buff it with scroll.
Bring another cryo, that's the only way Arle can consistently melt, anemo characters like Kazuha or Sucrose infusing cryo won't work unless you're speedrunning and the enemy dies in one hit.
1. bring another cryo
2. just run Xilo - Bennett - Citlali for raw buffs and its still good, despite not having enough cryo for consistent melts
Mavuika is still the #1 dps in the game. It makes zero sense for people to complain about her on-field damage nerf. She’s like 10% stronger than the second best dps character in the game (Mualani) and like 12% better than Arlecchino.
And her C2 still needs a SERIOUS nerf because a 37% jump in damage is the biggest damage increase from a constellation in the entire game.
A c2 mavuika does like 2x the damage of most c0 5 stars. Arlecchino and Mualani at c4 and c5 are STILL weaker than Mavuika at c2. And mavuika at c3 still likely outdamages all c6 characters in the game.
Right now Mavuika has equal damage as Arle for the same time rotation tho. The only thing that should be nerfed - her constellations since they are still way too broken
Who tf needed her to be 64237th pyro on fielder?! Literally every natlan char would benefit from their archon if she was just a XL and bennett combo, stop defending idiotic hoyo decisions for once!
@@skrypnykk.770 that would give mavuika even less pull value then
They’re buggin 🥲🙄
Mavuika DPS nerf didnt really change her. Still a top tier DPS. Off field already good so no changes needed. Those who think otherwise need your expectations curbed.
I like Citlali but I think I'll take Rosaria off the bench and save my primos
her fighting spirit quite restrictive tbh, and it makes er stat unusable
still pull mav for collection but no C6,i have full cons lyney and arle,big loss for hoyo.
Guys arrchelino riding is crazy 😮😮many here are complaining how mauvika best team (furina,bennet,xilonen) is restrictive and will perform similar to arrch best teams which is absolutely false .. mauvika is far stronger than arrchelino is.. saying she's not worth dps build in comparison to investment is insane.. let me tell you she only need 1 natlan character to proc her burst that's only downside.. even with any --random team(sucrose,rosaria,mauvika,xilonen) . Vs ( arrchelino,kazuha ,xilonen,bennet) she will still deal more damage than her..😂.. let me tell you she is not perfect but many people are actually hating her or not pulling for her is because of how strong as dps..she is.. people don't want to accept their favourite character (arrch,neuv) are weaker than her.. hence all these allegations.. and it's not like she is bad as support.. she still applies pyro to Enemies while offield.which no pyro character other than xiangling can(and her pyro application is already very consistent which itself is ++ for any hydro or cyro dps just imagine those vape and reverse melt)))(and she works with natlan support artifact (40%elemtal damage))).buffing her more as sub dps will break the game and then people will complaint about powercreep 🤡. so don't come under influence of any random rage baiter.. any archon is must pull genshin know what they are doing..so pull for her with no tension..👌👍👍🔥
And one more thing if she actually turned out to bad which is not possible.. but in case it happened i am telling you (it will backfire them back ..) it will be become zhongli situation and she will rise again with more buffs 😂😂 on Top 👑
Powercreeping fatui harbinger released 7 months ago: 🥰🤩😝😁
Powercreeping 1.0 4* random chef: 💀🤓🤡💤
Atp you shouldn't be allowed to speak.
@nationalgeografic7687 what are you even writing 🤯?
Best mavuika team has citlali, not furina
@@lolidemon3163 yeah bro but with xilonen furina will still be BETTER.... She provide more buff than citali(is for more burst and smooth rotation)..
hopefully they buff mauvika sub dps
Mavuika is expensive but she doesn't need ER at all which is a big thing. Two hits from xilonen can easily fill half of her burst. You can switch to xilonen while running, hit enemies twice, press e then hit them again twice and her burst will be ready😂
Switching while running only works on the overworld of Natlan. Outside of that like Abyss, IT, even domains are not possible
Idk, ER would make her kit more flexible. She has restrictions that aren't going to age well. The fact that she's tied to a character as flexible as Xilonen makes it worse, as she'll have more comps available to her going forward.
Clearly genshin makers hate cryo. They are taking away any chance which would buff cryo.
Man the one character i wanted…. Ofc mihoyo does this I hate this game so much sometimes
And now she’s not even worth making a main dps I was already limited by having little to no natlan characters and now it’ll be even weaker😊
@@tekashito3352you can still use pyro mc or Kachina to fill her burst, they are pretty good if you don't have Xilonen.
@@gunit484 nah man mavuika dogshit not even worth pulling anymore c2 Arlechino it is😮💨
@@gunit484and why should I do this when arle can equip 3* stick, some random supports and crush everything
@@nationalgeografic7687 Because chances are if you have Arle's best team, you'll also have Mavuika's best team. That and they do around the same dps anyway(Mavuika 10-15% higher).
she has no potential in constellations, unlike the same Arle.
what does Arle get on c6? an atomic bomb
what does Mavuyka get? something so terrible that I don't even know if I should play it, despite my love for her
C2
@Thedoorway123 Her c2 increases damage by 37%, and Arle's c6 increases damage by 45+.
@morockay2636 her base multipliers are still higher than arlecchino who is still worse than neuvillette
@@Thedoorway123 What are you even talking about? There are already calculations where c6 Arle > c6 Mavuika
@@morockay2636 Where is the calculation
Show dont tell
COME ON GUYS‼ GENSHIN TOLD US THIS IN HER NAME. THEY ARE LITERALLY MAKING HER LIVE UP TO HER NAMEWITH THAT NERF:
MAVUIKA = MA-WEAKER (WHEN PRONOUNCED RIGHT) 🤣🤣🤣
I have Yoimiya and C1 Arlecchino, the last thing I need is another Pyro on field DPS. Too bad, easy skip
Imagine playing for meta
Does this mean mavuika not worth pulling at c0 dps
Why does genshin change mavuika damage when it's already good😒😤😠
It fill like they want us to skip her
This will be difficult for f2 player just like me
Of course it's still worth pulling for her, haven't you seen the video? Even at c0, she's still one of the best DPS in the game, in addition to having all her off-field utility.
Theory crafters had to promote melt mavuika during during v2 and harder now because after calcs came out the said she was the best dps... then after her melt was deemed impractical, because it required you to either imput really really fast which wasnt practical for realistic situations or slow down her already long rotation time. some people did calcs for melt arlecchino, it was said to be at least one percent better then the furina varrent. So if the melt was impractical and the furina was weaker, then their claim that mavuka was the best dps was gonna have egg all over it. So they promoted it harder to save credability. Now its not even a debate on whos better. The v3 mavukas melt is close or barely stronger, less than 1% than the v2 furina varrent meaning melt arlecchino "might" be the new meta. With out needing so many 5 stars and team restriction and icd issues as the team calculated was arl citlai rosaria and bennet. With arl being 1.03% stronger in the explanation than the furina version of version 2. (Aerongaming) 107 melt mavuika v3(new) and 106 vape v2 mavuika(old) . Thats a less then 1% difference meaning with basic math melt arlecchino would have a less then a .5% advantage. Thats assuming mavuika melt actually worked which realistically doesnt. Jstern calc are just that calcs they only assume possible damage not realistic. People in mavuika reddit have mix feelings about him atm.
“Slightly ahead” I don’t know why hearing that bothers me to the core…
is a c2r1 arle haver lowkey glad they're nerfing mavuika. sorry to her mains but it felt extremely unfair to have a c0 character outdamaging a c2r1 character of the same niche that came out less than a year ago
Looks at arle vs lyney. Sure buddy
@@lolidemon3163nobody gives a fuck about liney
Are the nerfs really that bad
For mavuika yes, but she was so strong before that even after the nerf she is in par with neuvilette, arlechinno and Mualani in damage dealing while also having Some suportive options, so its just balancing her to not powercreeping everything.
@@redsky397 ...so no, to answer the OPs question, the nerfs aren't that bad. Mavuika will still be really good both on- and off-field
@@redsky397 So in short, no lol. If she's as good as the top tier main DPS characters while still having off field support potential it doesn't look bad.
@@redsky397she shouldn't be "on par with" a non-Archon character. She is the Pyro Archon FFS.
yes even if now she is only slightly better than arle, she is slightly worse than mualani
I REALLY NEED HELP GUYS
I like both mavuika and chasca , but I can decide who to pull .I kinda wanna get citlali as I don't have zhongli or baizou but that's that.
Rn idk who to pull I'm ar60 with at least good amount of useable characters tho not much .
Rn I'm on 25 pity and I'm guaranteed have 75 pulls
I also lost 2 times in a row so I think my next 50/50 has more chances of winning by the new system I guess .
Please have me decide. My mind is going crazy as I like the bike but I also love how chasca can just kill enemies without getting hits most of times .
hard cause you like both. Mavuika should be the more "flexible" unit tho since she can off-field as well. the other choice is take a risk and pull Chasca now and hope you have enough to get Mavuika. personally prefer the safer option
Arlecchino mains Won!
Mavuika is still stronger than the child groomer.
Theory crafters had to promote melt mavuika during during v2 and harder now because after calcs came out the said she was the best dps... then after her melt was deemed impractical, because it required you to either imput really really fast which wasnt practical for realistic situations or slow down her already long rotation time. some people did calcs for melt arlecchino, it was said to be at least one percent better then the furina varrent. So if the melt was impractical and the furina was weaker, then their claim that mavuka was the best dps was gonna have egg all over it. So they promoted it harder to save credability. Now its not even a debate on whos better. The v3 mavukas melt is close or barely stronger, less than 1% than the v2 furina varrent meaning melt arlecchino "might" be the new meta. With out needing so many 5 stars and team restriction and icd issues as the team calculated was arl citlai rosaria and bennet. With arl being 1.03% stronger in the explanation than the furina version of version 2. (Aerongaming) 107 melt mavuika v3(new) and 106 vape v2 mavuika(old) . Thats a less then 1% difference meaning with basic math melt arlecchino would have a less then a .5% advantage. Thats assuming mavuika melt actually worked which realistically doesnt. Jstern calc are just that calcs they only assume possible damage not realistic. People in mavuika reddit have mix feelings about him atm.
@@fatuusdottore Girl your pfp is a child murderer you do not get a stand on this
@@fatuusdottore1% better in her best team is a something to be proud of? Man, you need to think more)
SKIP NATLAN, the worst expansion, the most boring stories, the worst dps, horrible out of place character design.
That sucks. Lan Yan is so uninteresting, and nerfing Mavuika as an Archon is just disgusting. As much as I love Furina, she is very OP, as is Neuvillette, and I think as an Archon that is supposed to be THE BEST of that element, Mavuika deserved to be OP.
Citlali I can understand but Cryo is already on the floor so what does it matter if she is a bit OP? It might revive the element a little maybe.
While it's good to see an MC that isn't terrible or at best mid for once, Lan Yan really didn't need any buffs. She's an anemo shielder FFS lmao, the only people who will use her are people who like her NPC design.
They should have nerfed Arlechomo instead, tbh. And as much as I love Xiangling, it is kind of time to replace her. And if Neuvillette is allowed to be as OP as he is, I don't see why Mavuika can't?
calm down, shes still stronger than arlecchino or neuvilette
@@fatuusdottore Mavuika is stronger than Arle and Neuvilette. Before nerfs, her c0 was around the same power as c2 Arle, and c2 Mavuika was around the same power as c6 Arle. After the nerfs, she isnt that much ahead, but still has higher dps than her at the same cons.
Bro wants powercreep in genshin thats not healthy for this game many people will be mad if this happens
Personally, I like Lan Yan's design. It's simple but cute
Stronget is still debatable as it require mavuika to mely her burst c1 and c4 which isnt reallistically possible for the majority of players unless you slow down your rotation lowering your dps anf iys said to be equal to arlecchino melt assuming your melting with mavuika...
Its ok to nerf mavuika even more but need to give more access to gain fighting spirit rather than only depended to xilonen n citlali
And have her have less pull value than arle? Arle already has the same dps as of rn, so why bother pulling for her in that regard. More restrictive team
firstt
nah. mavuika is a direct blatant arlechino powercreep by mihoyo.
hate this mihoyo bullcrap.
they literally made pyro the most stale roster of characters.
yea. i think ill give up on mavuka.
i was planning to get her on her rerun but damn her kit sucks.
i guess i'll just continue to use mavuka mod on arlechino.
i just hope mihoyo dont fvck up capitano or the cryo archon.