pretty insane that Mavuika went from the best dps in the game dmg wise and with insane QOL, aoe, frontload, ease of use to the best dps in the game dmg wise and with insane QOL, aoe, frontload, ease of use
Diona applies cryo to herself but its actually a freeze status thats why she cant get frozen, shes alread “frozen” and people are saying that citlalis shield is the same way
Nerfs are whatever, the real thing I'm fearing is is her whole burst mechanic. Its just so damn limiting, like none of the other natlan characters need natlan characters to excel. They gain bonuses yes, but none of them NEED them. Mav almost feels like she was built to have Xilonen attached at the hip. On the flip side as a support or sub she's not gonna be able get burst up at any decent rate unless she's supporting for natlan characters. This just seems bonkers too me. Like Imagine if they released Raiden needing Inazuma character's just to burst at a semi decent rate. Im afraid that its going to be a few years out in sneeze land or hell Khaenri'ah and we get no new natlan characters, and Mav's options are just gonna be stagnant.
I think Mavuika is one of the best supports but I agree that the burst thing is an issue >~< and also her elemental skill only lasts for 12s :( If they made it a lil more accesible, something like every Nightsoul point gives 1.5 or even 2 stacks it would make her wayyy less reliant on Xilonen and more accesible for other characters when playing off field, as she would only need herself to burst even if she doesn’t get max stacks As for the elemental skill, I feel it lasts too little for an archon OwO which makes her not so flexible. Apparently it’s because, by default, it lasts 16s but she loses Nightsoul when hitting opponents, so it would be nice if they removed that condition while off field so her skill lasts for 16s. While on field they can keep it because it helps balancing her fieldtime
They are also assuming your melting with just citlali which isnt realistic. Tester stated that only possible witha really really fast imput of to slow down your already long rotation lowering your dps. I statement about the true calcs in posts above but tldr melt mavuika isnt realistically the "best"
1:06 No, even Diona doesn't get frozen when you use her skill even when you have a hydro aura. More interestingly, Diona enables the Talking stick passive since she applies to the active character cryo on swap. So, Bennett + Diona gives both the atk% and dmg% buff to a talking stick user because Diona applies cryo first (trigger is swapping) before Bennet (trigger is a timer which realistically always happen after the swap trigger). I hope Citlali will do the same and just apply cryo every swap so Mavuika with Tenoch's weapon is canon. 4:42 I thought they nerfed the CA damage so donut is no longer the optimal playstyle lmao. We can't escape the 🍩
She need extra Pyro app for the duration of her skill. It would make her really consistent with characters like Mualani if you want to play double-hydro.
Regarding citlali's shield: I think they will release new artifact sets specifically made for mavuika and for citlali. Maybe they'll make a nightsoul shield set
There r two thing that worth considering 1. Just wait for the live version of mauvika to release then see how she is and 2. Its not a bad idea to get mauvika on her rerun (as at least archons get their first rerun fast ), that way if anyone have a eye for future natlan character or they get disappointed from her( as many of us r ), then by the time she reruns u will have a pretty nice idea of rest of natlan character. Also this gives player a chance since so many good reruns r gonna happen like zhongli, nev, arl, etc etc or even at the current state citlali is looking a better character then the ARCHON its fkng crazy. Forget about archon kit, at the current state that fkng new 4 star anemo shield girl kit with shielding and grouping is looking more interesting then ARCHON ITSELF, such a let down 3. I was wondering why there is no info about fishing weapon ? like I am assuming its will be on 5.3 but so far no news
THATS LITERALLY WHAT I SAID, who wants the best pyro DPS to be powercrept in 5 months? that ain't it she got powercrept, but in different ways, AS IT SHOULD (things like ease of use or support capabilities), not straight up worse DMG dealing unit
She's a mf God my guy she had better be broken or what's the damn point furina isn't even a real archon and she's arguably the most broken character in the game
@ she is miles better tho Not only she does equal DMG, she has more range, she’s easier to use, she can heal, she can be an off field subdps on her downtime, she can buff other units in her downtime (40% DMG bonus is not little), and if you wish so, she can use the natlan support set to give extra 40% if i remember good Archon cooldowns (which means 100% uptime on her skills), this character is busted
Ngl you chasing the dumb flying mecha dragon was low-key one of the funniest things I seen in your videos 😂 It's Furina all over again. V3 was the doomsday and it was all Furinover. Then she releases and she was broken as f.
Isn't it weird that I am more excited about pyro traveler than I am for Mavuika now? Because this bullshit archon looks to be turning into a regular dps pyro character and if that is the case then I see no reason to pick her and her ugly as fk bike attacks.
My thought exactly ! Shes now pyro dps number 10293394940 and we all know dps fight one another as there is too many and with Snezhnaya and many more after that im afraid sur will get powercreeped
Citlali's C1 now activating once Itzpapa is on the field instead of simply when she enters Nightsoul's Blessing is a subtle but nice change that will let me both activate Scroll *and* give my main DPS (Barbara) all her Stellar Blade stacks. Namely, Barbara applies hydro -> Citlali E (does freeze to get 40% dmg bonus from Scroll set) -> Bennett QE -> Xiangling QE -> Citlali Q (and summoning Itzpapa) -> Barbara attacks Previously Bennett and Xiangling would've stolen some stacks if I used her E before going into them Ofc most people don't play DPS Barbara but there are likely other teams where this change is similarly helpful
what makes pyro mc interesting to me is quite literally their c6 giving them a nightsoul pyro infuse and 40 critdmg its really nice to see them actually giving mc somewhat of a dps mode for once. When clearing with "regular" meta teams becomes boring as shit making unconventional characters clear regardless becomes much more enjoyable. Even when with Pyro Traveller using C6 Bennett to force a apyro infusion was always an option its nice regardless for them to have their own
The cryo app is nothing that isn't already on Diona and Layla's shields, it's not an issue. The real issue is that she just doesn't have a strong enough shield to really be worth the primogems.
something simple they could do if they wanna keep the 2 sec application of her skill would be to give her pyro application something similar to nahida's where she apply 1.5 unit of pyro instead of 1
@@wansper9297 Can't scale damage without Atk. A stats boost is always better than a damage boost cause higher stats mean more damage anyways. Also usually the damage of a DPS character scales with the Atk stats so atk% would benefit their entire kit
The Mav nerfs, are just ridiculous the newest character and Pyro Archon god of war comparable to the more universal Self healing Arle, well playd hoyo, you chose now to get played by you players who just wated to keep there Arlecchino. these Nerfs are bad, an on feild Pyro Archon should NEVER be a sidegrade, they should bethe most powerful charecter in the game by a margin! anybody happy with this is missing the point!
So she isn't bringing anything new to the game or meta? Just another slide pyro dps upgrade/side grad? While being more restrictive to compensate for that slight upgrade?
I am really lost between Arlechinno and Mavuika. I like Arlechinno, but I wanted a new pyro off field even it is cope. At the same time, if I get Mavuika, I have no reason to get Arlechinno too. I really wish Mavuika was an off field sub dps or support instead.
Hu Tao beta: "She is only a little stronger than Diluc, and her gameplay s... easy skip" Kazuha beta: "Just a expensive Sucrose...easy skip" Ayaka beta: "She is just a DPS...save for Ganyu because she can work as support" Raiden beta: "Worse battery than Fischl... easy skip, get Yoimiya instead" Shenhe beta: "easy skip, get her on rerun with Cloud Retainer Cryo DPS" Xilonen beta: "If you already have Kazuha, you don't need her" Mavuika beta: "Her off-field s... she is worse than xiangling...if you already have Arlecchino..." The pattern.
I think the biggest reason to pull for Mavuika were her insane scallings. Now that she’s balanced she is perfectly replaceable and hence easily skippable.
Hot take i am fine with how mavuika is currently,she could be unchanged till release and i would be fully satisfied. But citlali on the other hand? I am fairly satisfied but i kinda wish her shield was stronger,if she powercreeps layla that's healthier for the game than powercreeping zhong so i just want that. Let's hope for a shield buff now that they nerfed her damage
The disappointing thing about Mavuika is that all the Natlan 5 stars would benefit from a new pyro support (instead of XL/Bennett) and yet the pyro archon doesn't fulfill that role well
@alexprus7953 but does she not? She's a good XL replacement. The only team where maybe she suffers is mualani which is fair i guess but mualani has plenty of issues in her kit and playstyle in general. But for kinich and chasca she's a MASSIVE upgrade
She's about equal, but needs Xilonen to truly compete. She's better because of everything she brings to the table. Arle is only a hypercarry, meanwhile Mavuika can be DPS, buffer and subDPS, and is good in all those roles.
@@mihacimpric745she's pretty much better in every way than Arle lol the only caveat is needing xilonen, which I'm sure most people, who somewhat care about meta, already have or plan to get
@jy1178 No? Even then she's not really gapping Arle. The calcs show them to be generally equal. Mavuika is even more restricted, with her window of oppotunity being far smaller, and as such being far more complicated and arguably worse to play in reality than on paper.
@@jy1178 I think you watched some 2 weeks ago showcases.. She got nerfed yesterday if you did not know, right now her dps is equal to Arle for the same rotation time. But you also need to understand that Mavuika must have both Xilo and Citlali in her team to be equal to Arle
Im fine with mauviki at her first kit. She actually felt good. Citlali on the other hand looks like one of the worst characters in the game to me. Really doesnt boost teams any appreciable amount for the cost of a 5 star.
Im still going to be pulling for Mavuika (for Archon collection), Citlali and Arle (cuz i lost to Dehya last time), but it does suck that most of my favorite characters are basically Bennett/circle impact reliant for high damage (which i refuse to go back to) and he has zero alternatives after 4+ years. I think after next patch i am just going to not pull for attack scaling characters anymore. Besides, aside from the remaining Archons (only the Tsaritsa left after Mavuika lol) and Columbina, im at the point where im going to to focus mainly on vertical investing in my current characters. Already have C2 Raiden, Nahida, Furina and Xianyun and considering getting C2 Xilonen and C2 Mavuika on their reruns (also want C1 Neuvillette but i'll only have enough to guarantee 3 5* by 5.3 and those 3 characters are in 5.3 lol). Also, hopefully Cryo will get much better in the next region.
i'm honestly really disapointed with mavuika, at first, i expected her to be a support that enables non natlan characters to use Natlan artifacts like how Furina did to Marechaussee Hunter Artifact Set to non fontaine characters. I've been farming that natlan artifact domain for months since it came out for this... I guess I'll stop farming that domain now...
Also, Arlechhino is already as easy to play as you can get without being instantly boring. And as for interruption res and "can't" heal, gee, wouldn't it be wild if there happened to be a shielder with huge damage buffing capabilities that you simp for coming out? And Arle's got herself a panic button full heal w/ her burst
I honestly don't see any difference between Citlali and Layla. Both are cryo shielder, both have very bad dmg. You can say Citlali has res shred and can use Cinder City artifacts, but Xilonen has to be in Mavuika's team and she shreds more resistance than her and uses the same artifact set. You can talk about melt reaction, but Citlali by herself is not enough and you have to use Rosaria... So, isn't Layla a better option since she's almost free and with Xilonen is the same as having Citlali?
How many normal attak per rotation did u calc for arle and did u assume burst dmg too ? my calcs shows arle with closer to 800 k dmg not sure what i got wrong.
No burst. Arle N1C 3N5D N1 Keep in mind that N4 hits twice. I’m using R1 Deathmatch single target. Whimsey, Atk/Pyro/Crit. 8cdmg rolls 7-10 crit rate rolls (Rosa boosts crit rate so you build less there) Rest of the rolls go into attack.
that part about applying self cryo doesnt matter diona does that and she doesnt freeze i think im glad i pulled C1 arlecchino only for C0 mavuika with 4 star weapon to be the same damage thanks mihoho
There was no way they would let Mavuika keep these ridicoulous numbers and powercreep their favourite child ( Arlechinno). Mavuika is still pretty restrictive since she wants Natlan characters. Not what i expected. I expected a Furina type buffer. I am skipping her. I am happy for Lanyans buff making her shield 12 seconds instead of 8. Gonna pick her or Gaming on Lantern rite selector.
You might run into Overcapping issues with obsidian or mh, her weapon is a really big damage boost but if you’re going for cons then you can cope with the good 4 star options like Tidal shadow or Mailed flower, or even just use serpent spine
Tbh I'm really not loving how the Natlan characters' mechanics are so tied to each other/Nathan. I've also not wanted any of the DPS characters so far, so I've just felt meh about the whole thing. At this point, I might just skip Mavuika as well. I'm only super interested in Ororon and Iansan and that's out of the entire cast! Finger's crossed Iansan will be good...
@@narancia2815 No, she needs Xilonen to be on Arle's level in straight DPS. Mavuika is better in terms of utility, because she's not only a DPS. She also buffs and does off field.
Honestly, mavuika needs a buff to her exploration timers over everything else. He dps is still top tier, her sub dps is a fine alternative, her support is decent enough for a top-tier dps, her timers for the exploration is honestly the worst offense in the kit
Hopefully they nerf Mavuika's on-field dps by another 20ish % and buff her support power and Pyro application. For granny just make her shield regenerate a small absorption portion every 2 seconds even if it's broken.
she maybe nerfed to earth but my 355 wishes are still waiting for her.🗣 is her weapon worth pulling? i was just thinking pulling wolf gravestone on her😓
her weapon is a pretty good greatsword in general and can work really good on other greatsword users. i also did see the calculations though and while the sig is good there are other good options
Mavuika is still the strongest dps in the game. Even post-nerf, she’s still stronger than Mualani and Arlecchino by like 10%. Which is still a lot. So no, this is not bad for her. But the nerfs she got are actively GOOD for the game and its life cycle. Because they’re limiting powercreep. I think her c2 still needs further nerfs. It’s still BY FAR the biggest damage increase of any constellation in the game. And on a character that is already stronger than all other dps characters in the game. A c2 Mavuika will do like 2x the damage of fairly strong but not OP characters like Wanderer or Childe. A c3 Mavuika can still likely outdamage all other dps characters at c6.
4:40 i don't think she is better than Arlecchino as a dps as of now because Arlecchino's teams are more flexible when compared to her she is heavily relied on xilonen or citlali in her teams which is sad because my friend is f2p and skipped xilonen for her.
Yea I’m sure that hoyo is really terrified of Xiangling I hate this game so much at times like damn they power creep anyone like but xiangling or Bennett……
pretty insane that Mavuika went from the best dps in the game dmg wise and with insane QOL, aoe, frontload, ease of use to the best dps in the game dmg wise and with insane QOL, aoe, frontload, ease of use
Citlali's shield weaker than Hoyo's will to rerun cryo units🔥🔥
YOU ARE MY SPECIAL
@@Personpersonpersonperson who up jujutsuing their kaisen rn?
If citlali's self cryo application works like diona then it wont interact with the wet status, thus characters won't get frozen.
I actually didn’t know that
W Buff
Diona applies cryo to herself but its actually a freeze status thats why she cant get frozen, shes alread “frozen” and people are saying that citlalis shield is the same way
Please let it be as you said. if not, it's classic Hoyo pulling the rug under our feet again.
Hopefully @@walterwalter3035
4:55 insane gameplay
💀💀💀
😂
i mean what can he do there?
@@PlayerPro119that's the problem: genshin.
That's why I hate flying enemies. Majority of dps are meele characters. I had to use Tighnari for this Abyss. lol
Manifesting off field Mavuika buffs for next monday 🙏🙏🙏
Nerfs are whatever, the real thing I'm fearing is is her whole burst mechanic. Its just so damn limiting, like none of the other natlan characters need natlan characters to excel. They gain bonuses yes, but none of them NEED them. Mav almost feels like she was built to have Xilonen attached at the hip. On the flip side as a support or sub she's not gonna be able get burst up at any decent rate unless she's supporting for natlan characters. This just seems bonkers too me. Like Imagine if they released Raiden needing Inazuma character's just to burst at a semi decent rate. Im afraid that its going to be a few years out in sneeze land or hell Khaenri'ah and we get no new natlan characters, and Mav's options are just gonna be stagnant.
or a better comparison, a raiden that needs Sara to even burst per rotation, cuz on-field dps style mavuika still needs xilonen
They won't change this, they want to sell c1.
I think Mavuika is one of the best supports but I agree that the burst thing is an issue >~< and also her elemental skill only lasts for 12s :(
If they made it a lil more accesible, something like every Nightsoul point gives 1.5 or even 2 stacks it would make her wayyy less reliant on Xilonen and more accesible for other characters when playing off field, as she would only need herself to burst even if she doesn’t get max stacks
As for the elemental skill, I feel it lasts too little for an archon OwO which makes her not so flexible. Apparently it’s because, by default, it lasts 16s but she loses Nightsoul when hitting opponents, so it would be nice if they removed that condition while off field so her skill lasts for 16s. While on field they can keep it because it helps balancing her fieldtime
I think as long as you have Xilonen she'll be good with new characters going into the coming years even if no new natlan characters get released
They are also assuming your melting with just citlali which isnt realistic.
Tester stated that only possible witha really really fast imput of to slow down your already long rotation lowering your dps. I statement about the true calcs in posts above but tldr melt mavuika isnt realistically the "best"
Thank you for this quality content, while it's 2 am here and I'm doing math homework for university
Push through gang, I believe in you
At least my goat Lanyan got buffed. Every cloud..
1:06 No, even Diona doesn't get frozen when you use her skill even when you have a hydro aura. More interestingly, Diona enables the Talking stick passive since she applies to the active character cryo on swap. So, Bennett + Diona gives both the atk% and dmg% buff to a talking stick user because Diona applies cryo first (trigger is swapping) before Bennet (trigger is a timer which realistically always happen after the swap trigger). I hope Citlali will do the same and just apply cryo every swap so Mavuika with Tenoch's weapon is canon.
4:42 I thought they nerfed the CA damage so donut is no longer the optimal playstyle lmao. We can't escape the 🍩
To add, the 'cryo' being applied is technically frozen aura hence no self-freeze
They need to buff her shield, buff mauvika off-filled dps, and sub dps dmg too.
Her off field damage is fine honestly
@@FliponYT Is having the same damage as 4year old 4star character is really fine?
@@jart372 yes coz that 4 year old 4* is still good
She need extra Pyro app for the duration of her skill. It would make her really consistent with characters like Mualani if you want to play double-hydro.
@@jart372she deals the same damage as a BENNET BUFFED xiangling
Regarding citlali's shield: I think they will release new artifact sets specifically made for mavuika and for citlali. Maybe they'll make a nightsoul shield set
There r two thing that worth considering
1. Just wait for the live version of mauvika to release then see how she is and
2. Its not a bad idea to get mauvika on her rerun (as at least archons get their first rerun fast ), that way if anyone have a eye for future natlan character or they get disappointed from her( as many of us r ), then by the time she reruns u will have a pretty nice idea of rest of natlan character.
Also this gives player a chance since so many good reruns r gonna happen like zhongli, nev, arl, etc etc or even at the current state citlali is looking a better character then the ARCHON its fkng crazy.
Forget about archon kit, at the current state that fkng new 4 star anemo shield girl kit with shielding and grouping is looking more interesting then ARCHON ITSELF, such a let down
3. I was wondering why there is no info about fishing weapon ? like I am assuming its will be on 5.3 but so far no news
lanyan keeps winning doing lanyillion damage 🔥 🔥 🔥
Lmaooo real
Citlali does not apply cryo to yourself but the frozen aura. The frozen aura doesnt react with hydro nor makes your animations slower.
Imma say it. Kinda glad Mavuika got nerfed. This aint Star Rail, she didn't need to be lapping Arle before she got her first rerun lmao.
THATS LITERALLY WHAT I SAID, who wants the best pyro DPS to be powercrept in 5 months? that ain't it
she got powercrept, but in different ways, AS IT SHOULD (things like ease of use or support capabilities), not straight up worse DMG dealing unit
She's a mf God my guy she had better be broken or what's the damn point furina isn't even a real archon and she's arguably the most broken character in the game
@rschmidt93 I mean she's still broken, just not hilariously crushing everyone else into dust broken, which is more than fine.
@ she is miles better tho
Not only she does equal DMG, she has more range, she’s easier to use, she can heal, she can be an off field subdps on her downtime, she can buff other units in her downtime (40% DMG bonus is not little), and if you wish so, she can use the natlan support set to give extra 40% if i remember good
Archon cooldowns (which means 100% uptime on her skills), this character is busted
@@NFYT 5 months? Arlecchino came out in April. Mavuika comes out January 2025 so its 8 months.
Ngl you chasing the dumb flying mecha dragon was low-key one of the funniest things I seen in your videos 😂
It's Furina all over again. V3 was the doomsday and it was all Furinover. Then she releases and she was broken as f.
I really don't like the character kit dynamic in Natlan. I think I'll just skip Mavuika. I don't need a fourth pyro dps.
Citlali was in desperate need of a huge buff...instead they nerfed her damage.
3:37 HOW SHHE WASH SHUPPOSED 😭😭😭😭❤️❤❤️❤️
LEAVE ME ALONE
4:58 pilotting Mavuika is wild Flip
nice. now i can go for my arlecchino's C2 without regrets
That's my plan...
She is still better than arle 😂😂
@@yashsharma148 who
@@yashsharma148 By how much?
@@yashsharma148In what way? Mavuika teams are more Ltd and she needs at least one Natlan support Character (Xilonen) .
0.25, your wife Citlali??? bro get away from my woman.
Isn't it weird that I am more excited about pyro traveler than I am for Mavuika now? Because this bullshit archon looks to be turning into a regular dps pyro character and if that is the case then I see no reason to pick her and her ugly as fk bike attacks.
My thought exactly ! Shes now pyro dps number 10293394940 and we all know dps fight one another as there is too many and with Snezhnaya and many more after that im afraid sur will get powercreeped
Citlali's C1 now activating once Itzpapa is on the field instead of simply when she enters Nightsoul's Blessing is a subtle but nice change that will let me both activate Scroll *and* give my main DPS (Barbara) all her Stellar Blade stacks.
Namely, Barbara applies hydro -> Citlali E (does freeze to get 40% dmg bonus from Scroll set) -> Bennett QE -> Xiangling QE -> Citlali Q (and summoning Itzpapa) -> Barbara attacks
Previously Bennett and Xiangling would've stolen some stacks if I used her E before going into them
Ofc most people don't play DPS Barbara but there are likely other teams where this change is similarly helpful
u forgot ttds buff onto barbara
@haruhiiragi6324 it's too tricky to set up Scroll and TTDS buffs at the same time
what makes pyro mc interesting to me is quite literally their c6 giving them a nightsoul pyro infuse and 40 critdmg
its really nice to see them actually giving mc somewhat of a dps mode for once.
When clearing with "regular" meta teams becomes boring as shit making unconventional characters clear regardless becomes much more enjoyable.
Even when with Pyro Traveller using C6 Bennett to force a apyro infusion was always an option its nice regardless for them to have their own
hopium on citlali buff
mavuika rides a motorcycle therefore no amount of nerfs can prevent me from pulling for her 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
What if they nerfed her bike speed to slower than walking?
@@zukodude487987can't like anything about Mavuika with a buzkill💀😭
The cryo app is nothing that isn't already on Diona and Layla's shields, it's not an issue. The real issue is that she just doesn't have a strong enough shield to really be worth the primogems.
Citlali c2 gives 250 em to shielded character, so if the shield breaks, the em buff disappears right away?
No confirmation but I would assume so
Doesn't that mean it's not that good considering the shield is not that strong
This sounds terrible.
5:06 man, this rizzley gameplay is painful to watch, who tf sent this shit
that thing is insufferable without a ranged character lmao
something simple they could do if they wanna keep the 2 sec application of her skill would be to give her pyro application something similar to nahida's where she apply 1.5 unit of pyro instead of 1
I hope her Cryo application on herself works like Xinyan's Shield. It's going to be easy to do double swirl with that.
Hoyo fuckin up 😂
7:15 "That she was supposed to be supporting"
Yeah, hopefully her buff change into something like Bennet buff.
That'll make her more universal.
????? Explain to me how an attack buff is more universal then a dmg% buff
@@wansper9297 Can't scale damage without Atk. A stats boost is always better than a damage boost cause higher stats mean more damage anyways. Also usually the damage of a DPS character scales with the Atk stats so atk% would benefit their entire kit
The Mav nerfs, are just ridiculous the newest character and Pyro Archon god of war comparable to the more universal Self healing Arle, well playd hoyo, you chose now to get played by you players who just wated to keep there Arlecchino. these Nerfs are bad, an on feild Pyro Archon should NEVER be a sidegrade, they should bethe most powerful charecter in the game by a margin! anybody happy with this is missing the point!
So she isn't bringing anything new to the game or meta?
Just another slide pyro dps upgrade/side grad?
While being more restrictive to compensate for that slight upgrade?
Imagine being an archon and your power lvl is just less than 10% against a normal character like Arlecchino... What a mess, hoyoverse is the shit.
IM SAYYING LIKE IS IT THAT HARD FOR THEM TO GIVE XIANGLING THE DAMN BOOT
Arlecchino is anything but normal I would say. She's one of the few characters that has elemental powers outside of their vision and delusion.
I am really lost between Arlechinno and Mavuika.
I like Arlechinno, but I wanted a new pyro off field even it is cope. At the same time, if I get Mavuika, I have no reason to get Arlechinno too.
I really wish Mavuika was an off field sub dps or support instead.
Why you wanna off field Pyro? You already have Thoma, and Xiangling.
@@manday2267because we are all sick of using xiangling after years & years. Would be nice to have a 5 star pyro support finally
1 month in Alre's domain will change your mind lmao
If you like Aroecchino then go for it
But first wait for Mavuika final kit and everything
Hu Tao beta: "She is only a little stronger than Diluc, and her gameplay s... easy skip"
Kazuha beta: "Just a expensive Sucrose...easy skip"
Ayaka beta: "She is just a DPS...save for Ganyu because she can work as support"
Raiden beta: "Worse battery than Fischl... easy skip, get Yoimiya instead"
Shenhe beta: "easy skip, get her on rerun with Cloud Retainer Cryo DPS"
Xilonen beta: "If you already have Kazuha, you don't need her"
Mavuika beta: "Her off-field s... she is worse than xiangling...if you already have Arlecchino..."
The pattern.
I think the biggest reason to pull for Mavuika were her insane scallings. Now that she’s balanced she is perfectly replaceable and hence easily skippable.
Hot take i am fine with how mavuika is currently,she could be unchanged till release and i would be fully satisfied. But citlali on the other hand? I am fairly satisfied but i kinda wish her shield was stronger,if she powercreeps layla that's healthier for the game than powercreeping zhong so i just want that. Let's hope for a shield buff now that they nerfed her damage
The disappointing thing about Mavuika is that all the Natlan 5 stars would benefit from a new pyro support (instead of XL/Bennett) and yet the pyro archon doesn't fulfill that role well
@alexprus7953 but does she not? She's a good XL replacement. The only team where maybe she suffers is mualani which is fair i guess but mualani has plenty of issues in her kit and playstyle in general. But for kinich and chasca she's a MASSIVE upgrade
mihoyo should have just put the bennett and xinagling with team wide healing pyro archon in the bag and not this 100th pyro on feild dps
Sad thing is she is still better than Arle
Equal, right now it is more about which playstyle you like more
She's about equal, but needs Xilonen to truly compete. She's better because of everything she brings to the table. Arle is only a hypercarry, meanwhile Mavuika can be DPS, buffer and subDPS, and is good in all those roles.
@@mihacimpric745she's pretty much better in every way than Arle lol the only caveat is needing xilonen, which I'm sure most people, who somewhat care about meta, already have or plan to get
@jy1178 No? Even then she's not really gapping Arle. The calcs show them to be generally equal. Mavuika is even more restricted, with her window of oppotunity being far smaller, and as such being far more complicated and arguably worse to play in reality than on paper.
@@jy1178 I think you watched some 2 weeks ago showcases.. She got nerfed yesterday if you did not know, right now her dps is equal to Arle for the same rotation time. But you also need to understand that Mavuika must have both Xilo and Citlali in her team to be equal to Arle
Im fine with mauviki at her first kit. She actually felt good. Citlali on the other hand looks like one of the worst characters in the game to me. Really doesnt boost teams any appreciable amount for the cost of a 5 star.
Out of these 3 DPS units: Mavuika, Arlecchino, Nuevillette, which one has the most potential at C6?
Mavuika
Im still going to be pulling for Mavuika (for Archon collection), Citlali and Arle (cuz i lost to Dehya last time), but it does suck that most of my favorite characters are basically Bennett/circle impact reliant for high damage (which i refuse to go back to) and he has zero alternatives after 4+ years. I think after next patch i am just going to not pull for attack scaling characters anymore. Besides, aside from the remaining Archons (only the Tsaritsa left after Mavuika lol) and Columbina, im at the point where im going to to focus mainly on vertical investing in my current characters. Already have C2 Raiden, Nahida, Furina and Xianyun and considering getting C2 Xilonen and C2 Mavuika on their reruns (also want C1 Neuvillette but i'll only have enough to guarantee 3 5* by 5.3 and those 3 characters are in 5.3 lol).
Also, hopefully Cryo will get much better in the next region.
Yea hopefully they buff Citlalis shield. I'll still for her though 🔥
if the archon doesnt power creep it's a definite skip she is an archon for crying out loud and one of war!!!!!!!!!!!
Can we get a list (in order) of every dps ranked only by the amount of damage/rotations PLS 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thx
Xiangling is not dead we are so back🔥🔥🔥
Unironically Lanyan buffs are actually good she went from nearly useless due to lack of shield uptime to the same level as zhongli in certain teams
i'm honestly really disapointed with mavuika, at first, i expected her to be a support that enables non natlan characters to use Natlan artifacts like how Furina did to Marechaussee Hunter Artifact Set to non fontaine characters. I've been farming that natlan artifact domain for months since it came out for this... I guess I'll stop farming that domain now...
That would be just a straight up powercreep to Marechausse, of course they won't do that.
woke mob mentioned!!! lets fucking gooooooooooo
Citlali really looking like a standard banner character
My furina is attached to neuvilete so its arle for me
If they wanna nerf Mavuika then they should remove the Natlan character limitations to build up the will mechanic gauge
Citlali applies Frozen aura to herself, not cryo aura. So she won't freeze herself
Also, Arlechhino is already as easy to play as you can get without being instantly boring. And as for interruption res and "can't" heal, gee, wouldn't it be wild if there happened to be a shielder with huge damage buffing capabilities that you simp for coming out? And Arle's got herself a panic button full heal w/ her burst
I honestly don't see any difference between Citlali and Layla. Both are cryo shielder, both have very bad dmg. You can say Citlali has res shred and can use Cinder City artifacts, but Xilonen has to be in Mavuika's team and she shreds more resistance than her and uses the same artifact set. You can talk about melt reaction, but Citlali by herself is not enough and you have to use Rosaria... So, isn't Layla a better option since she's almost free and with Xilonen is the same as having Citlali?
How many normal attak per rotation did u calc for arle and did u assume burst dmg too ? my calcs shows arle with closer to 800 k dmg not sure what i got wrong.
No burst.
Arle N1C 3N5D N1
Keep in mind that N4 hits twice.
I’m using R1 Deathmatch single target. Whimsey, Atk/Pyro/Crit.
8cdmg rolls
7-10 crit rate rolls (Rosa boosts crit rate so you build less there)
Rest of the rolls go into attack.
that part about applying self cryo doesnt matter diona does that and she doesnt freeze i think
im glad i pulled C1 arlecchino only for C0 mavuika with 4 star weapon to be the same damage thanks mihoho
There was no way they would let Mavuika keep these ridicoulous numbers and powercreep their favourite child ( Arlechinno). Mavuika is still pretty restrictive since she wants Natlan characters. Not what i expected. I expected a Furina type buffer. I am skipping her. I am happy for Lanyans buff making her shield 12 seconds instead of 8. Gonna pick her or Gaming on Lantern rite selector.
Well would the self application of Cryo not make it easier for Anemo units to swirl it with other elements?
Still gonna pull mavuika hopefully i can get c2🎉🎉
Btw is beacon really tht good on her? Or i do need to get her sig?
You might run into Overcapping issues with obsidian or mh, her weapon is a really big damage boost but if you’re going for cons then you can cope with the good 4 star options like Tidal shadow or Mailed flower, or even just use serpent spine
@FliponYT yay tyyy if i get c2 then I'll surely try to get her weapon as well
Should i pull for herr just cuz im a HARDCORE kinich main (hes c6)
C2 mavuika for my kinich?
Tbh I'm really not loving how the Natlan characters' mechanics are so tied to each other/Nathan. I've also not wanted any of the DPS characters so far, so I've just felt meh about the whole thing. At this point, I might just skip Mavuika as well. I'm only super interested in Ororon and Iansan and that's out of the entire cast! Finger's crossed Iansan will be good...
Good job hoyo yall really know how to make me not want to play ur scam anymore
Chill, old beta Mavuika was 30% stronger than the other pyro dps, now like 20% stronger
Literally said that right now she is pretty equal to Arlecchino)) I do not know where did you find 20% stronger, maybe compared to Diluc?
@@skrypnykk.770 shes better than alre not equal at all
@@narancia2815 No, she needs Xilonen to be on Arle's level in straight DPS. Mavuika is better in terms of utility, because she's not only a DPS. She also buffs and does off field.
Honestly, mavuika needs a buff to her exploration timers over everything else. He dps is still top tier, her sub dps is a fine alternative, her support is decent enough for a top-tier dps, her timers for the exploration is honestly the worst offense in the kit
Hopefully they nerf Mavuika's on-field dps by another 20ish % and buff her support power and Pyro application.
For granny just make her shield regenerate a small absorption portion every 2 seconds even if it's broken.
Watch them becoming game changing units after release, just like what happened with chasca
she maybe nerfed to earth but my 355 wishes are still waiting for her.🗣
is her weapon worth pulling?
i was just thinking pulling wolf gravestone on her😓
her weapon is a pretty good greatsword in general and can work really good on other greatsword users. i also did see the calculations though and while the sig is good there are other good options
I feel hoyo might intentionally overtune nee characters in bèta on purpose so leakers go all pogchamp, and then slowly nerf then into side grades.
Citlali applying cryo to herself is ok, as long as it doesnt randomly apply it to every active character under her shielding 🤣
6:52 patience young one
what will happen then if you use barabara's skill then citlali? will she froze by herself?
Just a reminder, mualani got nerfed thrice and so did arle, so its normal for characters to be nerfed but also be good
All I wish for is Xiangling Powercreep
Instead you get Xiangling sidegrade
If they nerf mauvika they need to raise her mechanics time a bit
No stop messing with Citlali. She will be mine, I'm grabbing her weapon since she became my new fav female char.
The hate for chasca kinda pisses me off 5:24
lowkey gonna focus on getting enough er to run ttds on citlali, her shield is kinda cooked
If they gutted Mavuika's supportive capabilities I would've started a riot, I'm already tired of using Dehya 😒
What Mavuika ascension stats is? Crit dmg or Crit rate?
Crit dmg
does mavuika atleast have good non bennet teams?
So we can forget citlali shield?
I dont care about Mavuika cause I roll for characters not vehicles but citlali nerf makes me sad
Mavuika is still the strongest dps in the game. Even post-nerf, she’s still stronger than Mualani and Arlecchino by like 10%. Which is still a lot. So no, this is not bad for her.
But the nerfs she got are actively GOOD for the game and its life cycle. Because they’re limiting powercreep.
I think her c2 still needs further nerfs. It’s still BY FAR the biggest damage increase of any constellation in the game. And on a character that is already stronger than all other dps characters in the game. A c2 Mavuika will do like 2x the damage of fairly strong but not OP characters like Wanderer or Childe. A c3 Mavuika can still likely outdamage all other dps characters at c6.
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Yeah Mualani is so unplayable after the nerfs
Why is it all the characters I’m interested in always get shafted before they come out…. Man I hate hoyo
4:40 i don't think she is better than Arlecchino as a dps as of now because Arlecchino's teams are more flexible when compared to her she is heavily relied on xilonen or citlali in her teams which is sad because my friend is f2p and skipped xilonen for her.
So which 1 of this 2 is better for chasca?
Citlali
I hope Citlali is enough in solo cryo application for Furina, Mavuika, Xilonen team. I'm worry that she won't buff my Mavuika and Furina at all.
That’s a vape melt team you will have enough app
Thats it! Bye bye mavuika, helo c1 Arle
Neuvilette or current Mavuika? I'm sick of playing hyperbloom every single abyss cycle
Neuvilettee imo
0:25 no she's mine 😭
Hop off
So they make the hype and Nerf them some people are pulling for these characters because they are power creating now
FLIP IM NOT ASKING, WHERE IS VIDEO ON PYRO TRAVELLER! 😂 pls i just want a good pyro mc please
Yea I’m sure that hoyo is really terrified of Xiangling I hate this game so much at times like damn they power creep anyone like but xiangling or Bennett……
not only my grandma passed month ago. now mihoyo nerfs my grandma ingame.
Are you okay bro😭?