Paul Washer, Against Sinless Perfection & Lawlessness

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  • @nuthajason
    @nuthajason 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    so many people talk about just believing in Christ but this is not what scripture teaches. YES believe but also over and over we see the word REPENT. repent and believe. repent because you believe. keep repenting. pray for strength in repentance. a changed heart is the evidence that you really have believed.

    • @nuthajason
      @nuthajason 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      jeff that is a straw man question. nothing I do can lose my salvation because my salvation is not based on my performance - HOWEVER I know I am saved because I can see God working in me and leading me to repent daily and to believe not just in agreement but with action - my belief, my faith produces works because it is real not just a decision but a walk. Read luke 6:46 and james 1:22

    • @Goldtaker23
      @Goldtaker23 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nuthajason Amen im in a real battle with pornography but God is working in me to repent and I hate it even though my flesh craves it its a battle but its a battle id rather have than enjoying porn in being lost

    • @markhall6306
      @markhall6306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Paul Washer frustrates the grace of God said if you don't have works you're going to hell, however, Paul said for I do not frustrate the grace of God for if salvation is by works not of grace Jesus died in vain. Calvinism is false gospel salvation is immediate once you believe upon the Lord Jesus Christ no enduring or works reguired

    • @FaithAloneSavesForever
      @FaithAloneSavesForever ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@markhall6306 Amen!

    • @markhall6306
      @markhall6306 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Mike Hill nothing good dwells in your flesh however you are in the Spirit as long as you are alive you will battle with your flesh but eternally you are secure and no one can pluck you from the fathers hand and he shall lose none
      John 3;36 He who believeth upon the son hath eternal life

  • @renewedhope363
    @renewedhope363 7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I love God, I don't want to Sin. I hate making him angry and sad. He has given me so much. I ask for freedom from the bondage of sin.

    • @danielallison3540
      @danielallison3540 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Felix Immanuel if you say you are sinless you are deceiving yourself, and it is indeed by God's grace you enter into heaven because no sinful man in his natural born state may ever enter but he that is saved by Christ's death on the cross and his once dead spirit born again. We receive glorified bodies when we enter into heaven, bodies that do not die and pull towards sin like the flesh naturally does, untainted and pure

    • @danielallison3540
      @danielallison3540 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Almost correct, are you sinless and why? Did not Christ say "it is finished", but if you can obtain perfection why are you still going to die in your flesh? Death is not natural it is a curse as a result from sin. Your sanctification is life long, it is the second part of salvation. When you arrive in heaven and Christ gives those of true faith their bodies it will still be by grace for none deserve it.
      Romans 3:10-19
      9 What shall we conclude then? Do we have any advantage? Not at all! For we have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under the power of sin. 10 As it is written:
      “There is no one righteous, not even one;
      11 there is no one who understands;
      there is no one who seeks God.
      12 All have turned away,
      they have together become worthless;
      there is no one who does good,
      not even one.”[b]
      13 “Their throats are open graves;
      their tongues practice deceit.”[c]
      “The poison of vipers is on their lips.”[d]
      14 “Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.”[e]
      15 “Their feet are swift to shed blood;
      16 ruin and misery mark their ways,
      17 and the way of peace they do not know.”[f]
      18 “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”[g]
      19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.

    • @Goldtaker23
      @Goldtaker23 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Felix Immanuel It sounds like you are boasting in your own works it is written for by grace are you saved through faith NOT of works lest any man should boast

    • @carolewilson4862
      @carolewilson4862 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Felix Immanuel Mr. Immanuel, sir, you are in grave error. You are not understanding that the Jews of that time rejected the kingdom and then Jesus went to the cross and the gospel sent out to the gentile world. Please, for God's sake (literally), take the time to understand the dividing lines and what fully happened at the cross of Jesus, and why Paul was sent to the gentiles. Please also take the time to understand the differences in the kingdoms (plural). Please take time to study this and rethink your position. It was spoken of by the prophets in the OT. Paul expounds on it all, even though admittedly and as the NT tell us, some is hard to understand. Also, you're going to have to remove a load from the Book of John to make your doctrine work. So, now we have to take out all of Paul and edit the Book of John. And the Book of James comes to mind, also. A few things there will be problematic in your scenario. Um, yeah, Peter's writings will have to go also. HUGE problems. It takes time, illumination by the Holy Spirit, and study. I hope you will reconsider your posts and edit them so as not to lead others down the wrong path. It's God Who gets the glory for our salvation. It's ALL of God.
      Please spend some time to rethink things. It's important and has eternal consequences. Wish you the best, and God bless.

    • @carolewilson4862
      @carolewilson4862 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Felix Immanuel What would you think of this waiter? th-cam.com/video/r1YA5P6xMiA/w-d-xo.html

  • @jojojeep1
    @jojojeep1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love the way you put that paul; I believe the same way, I had to learn the hard way , by trying to be sinless I almost gave myself a mental breakdown , and almost quit the faith, thank GOD he spoke to my heart and I read the bible in a whole new light, now I know the truth it's all about JESUS AND THE WORK ON THE CROSS , that he did , so when GOD see's me it's with a cam corder and not a snap shot camera. what a way put it . thank's , im not sinless but I sure don't practice it , praise GOD

    • @joeydoherty368
      @joeydoherty368 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How do we keep from sinning? By walking in the Spirit. Yes you and many others like me have had that problem because our focus is sin and not Christ. A quote from Leanord Ravenhill is, "A sinning man stops praying. A praying man stops sinning." And I always love 1 John 2:1 which clearly says Christ is our advocate. It's so hard to find those who preach the narrow way with so much deception of Eternal Security and Lordship Salvation. When confronted with truth they pin it on their opponent, To the Eternal Security I'm Lordship Salvation, To Lordship Salvation I'm Eternal Security. When our focus is Gid and not simply Holiness all these things will be added unto us. God bless you.

    • @HolySpiritDwells
      @HolySpiritDwells 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      jojojeep1 Key words you said were, "BY TRYING TO BE SINLESS...That was the problem. What you needed to do was nothing but TRUST Jesus to do His work through you. Man alone can't attain perfection, it's impossible. What Paul Washer fails to do is believe what's already written and cry out to God for deliverance. Yes, how wonderful it is, Jesus and the work on the cross, which is inclusive of His work done IN those who believe...They die, then he lives through them, thank you Jesus!

    • @joeydoherty368
      @joeydoherty368 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HolySpiritDwells I'm confused about where Paul Washer fails. I agree 100 % with all you said, but where did Paul Washer fail in his explaining the Word of God?

    • @HolySpiritDwells
      @HolySpiritDwells 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paul Washer failed at his attempt explaining what walk in darkness is which is understandable, because in previous sermons by him he has confirmed God demands a perfect repentance yet denies the possibility of attaining that. Here's a brief explanation of walking in darkness...Scripture says there is no darkness in God at all, thus no sin. Darkness is the same as sin. God also says 1 day is as a 1000 yrs and 1000 yrs is as 1 day, so as we can see God isn't confined to TIME like we are here on earth. With that being said, if someone commit ONE sin, that is evident they are not "yet" born again. We can change the words around all we want like Paul Washer did saying practice, habitual, etc...Well in God's eyes if you sin once a year, it's still a habitual pattern or practice, because you're repeating sin over and over again. So the snapshot camera Paul Washer was referring to will actually be enough to confirm he's walking in darkness, yet he calls it walking in light when we measure the other things he does within 24 hrs. Instead of Paul Washer understanding the perfect repentance that God demands from us, why not take it an extra step and believe he can reach that repentance through Jesus Christ? How many will continue to listen to him? Many will depart having itchy ears, because of their love for sin, knowing they must cease ALL sin will get many people angry. When we present walking in darkness as a "lifestyle" that gives the individual to judge "how many" sins would equal darkness when God has already told us through examples in scripture starting with Adam and Eve who were kicked out for 1 sin.

    • @joeydoherty368
      @joeydoherty368 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      HolySpiritDwells​ Well naturally sinless perfectionists would have a problem with this. What does 1 John 2:1 say about one sin takes you to hell? Romans 7 and 1 John 1:8 are indeed misinterpreted, however you can't argue with this verse. Unless I'm gravely mistaken it blows sinless perfection to pieces. What Paul Washer meant was don't be discouraged if you continue to struggle. He's not advocating continuous sin, he's speaking of those who are sin sick. And as far as sinning once a year is concerned, committing sin is a continuous state with no battle. If there is a struggle, there's no commitment. To fall is not to make a practice of. And if you're to say 1 John 3:9 says Christians don't sin, you'll have to say it's impossible for them to sin, because that's what the verse says in the KJV. But I've made to many points and you'll forget the most important one. What's your interpretation of 1 John 2:1?

  • @fredarroyo7429
    @fredarroyo7429 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Be perfect therefore as your father is perfect

    • @driesvzyl143
      @driesvzyl143 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Heb.10:14 - JESUS CHRIST - has forever Perfected (Teleios - consummated us, completed us, reaching the Goal); those whom He has sanctified. Hagiasmos - separated us exclusively to be found in Him - transformed us out of the kingdom of darkness and placed (metamorphosis - changed us from a worm to a butterfly) us into the Kingdom of the Light.
      We must stop making excuses as if we are still slaves of the enemy - We as born-again believers are MORE THAN CONQUERORS and reigning through the One Jesus Christ.

  • @gloryinthe3rd166
    @gloryinthe3rd166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    When i hear teachers i always remember I can read the Bible and see for myself, we all can.

    • @GraceAlone-ne7jy
      @GraceAlone-ne7jy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What if what you believe about the Bible goes against 2,000 years of church history?

    • @richwheeler
      @richwheeler ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why did God give some to be pastors, teachers, evangelists, deacons? Why did He give spiritual gifts accompanying those offices?

    • @michael75884
      @michael75884 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richwheeler
      God didn't put people like that in place you spiritually blind deceived ignorant fool
      church buildings = the false church
      Jesus Christ Himself is the Rock and Jesus Christ Himself is the foundation to build ourselves and our salvation and house upon
      not a church building
      and the church Jesus spoke of that He built is a spiritual church not a physical church building in the earthly world
      the true church is God Jesus Christ Himself and His true children in spirit a spiritual church
      not a church building with deacons elders, bishops pastors and priests
      people like that are pharisees and hirelings they are not people of God
      john 5:38-44. john 10:25-30.
      and God didn't appoint anyone as a teacher except for Himself
      Jesus Christ Himself said call no one rabbi for you have a teacher the Christ
      rabbi means teacher
      you are ignorant and deceived with lies would do you a lot of good to read the bible more and actually pray
      God appointed Himself as the teacher and as a teacher not humans

    • @neortik7
      @neortik7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@GraceAlone-ne7jy that means that the Worldy Jesus and the religious Jesus are false
      I believe the Bible goes against 2000 years of church history

    • @neortik7
      @neortik7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richwheeler the bible also said to be careful of false prophets wolves in sheep clothing etc
      Our teacher is the Holy Spirit
      John 14:26 KJV
      But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  13 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    @FuroraCeltica There is a difference between struggling with sin as you are trying to live for God and diving headlong into sin and relishing it with no care for God.

    • @cody6469
      @cody6469 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well put! Even if it appears in snap shot manner, that one is habitually sinning, the missing pictures are the times it is clear they would be struggling inwardly, knowing they were saved from that sin, and God would be chastening them to return to Him as Hebrews teaches. Satan works to trip us up when on fire; the flesh is anti-God as well, weak indeed; the world is enticing, even when we don't lay ahold at all times that we have overcome the world, and our Christian environment can drag us down as well; therefore, I think it is super important to surround ourselves with pastors of old (read Puritan lit., etc.), men who were serious unlike the lax times we live in; men who were not afraid to call sin sin, hell hell, and call us to probe our hearts and repent of idols. I have come to see how lazy this time is we live in, very unserious about the walk with the Lord (many, not all), breaking commitment in every way. By His grace we stand; let us pray earnestly, may we live each day as if He will return; may we live as if He will summon us to His seat; may we keep our lamps burning and watchful; may we realize One life till soon be past, only what I've done for Christ will last and have eternity stamped on our eyeballs by Him.

    • @dh1335
      @dh1335 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’re actually struggling against God, and giving into sin

  • @incognito4470
    @incognito4470 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    we must partake in Devine nature and be perfect like our father in heaven is perfect and sin no more

  • @carolewilson4862
    @carolewilson4862 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Rock solid teaching. Paul Washer will go down in history as one of the best preachers of God's Holy Word. Some may not like his style, but his style is truth. To turn from the truth of God's Word, is to reject the Word in the flesh and only savior, Christ Jesus. May many hearts be offended by this video and become saved. God bless Paul Washer for not caving and never giving an inch when it comes to preaching the truth, and may God bless you all.

  • @Hovsep231
    @Hovsep231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Chrisitan walk in holiness all days in his life, the occasionel sin is not the norme !

  • @FuroraCeltica
    @FuroraCeltica 14 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have alwas been confused and concerned by those who preach sinless perfection. One thing that concerns me is how do you define habitual sin? Many Christians have some sins they tend to struggle with and repeat, but would that count as habitual sin? Also, at what point do you define 'lifestyle'?

    • @godsees-5871
      @godsees-5871 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      JESUS taught it. All things are possible with HIM though.

  • @Myjesus-1
    @Myjesus-1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A very dangerous and deadly doctrine has been sown in most churches and countless Christians have embraced it. That is the teaching that it is impossible to stop sinning and that it is even normal for Christians to live as sinners.
    I think the biggest lie in the Christian churches is the teaching that there is no escape from the flesh nature while in the body.
    In truth, the flesh has no power over those who have truly been Born Again. The struggle is when people try to conquer their sin by their own power, because they have not received the Holy Spirit:
    Scripture says, Collosians 2:11
    "and in Him (Jesus) you were also circumcised with a circumcision performed without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ,"
    This tells us that Jesus removes the flesh nature when one is truly reborn.
    Romans 8:9-11 confirms this:
    "But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you."
    The Apostle John said:
    1 John 3
    "Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin. No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.
    Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister."
    Jude 1:24 agrees with John's teachings:
    "Now to him (Jesus) who is able to keep you from stumbling (sinning) and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy,"
    Scripture also says:
    1 Corinthians 10:13
    "No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it."
    If your preacher does not talk like God's prophets and apostles, they are a fake.
    When the Apostle Paul spoke about his struggles with sin, he was speaking about his past before he received the Holy Spirit, because he also said:
    1 Corinthians 15:34 :
    "Come back to your senses as you ought, and stop sinning; for there are some who are ignorant of God-I say this to your shame."
    Paul also said, "Those who are in the flesh cannot please God." Romans 8;1-8
    When Jesus said, "The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak." He had not sent the Holy Spirit yet.
    Jesus told the Pharisees,
    "You will die in your sins."
    For anyone who dies in their flesh, they are guaranteed to end up in Hell.
    Scripture confirms this:
    “For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.” Romans 8:13.
    God's grace does not allow us to go on sinning. God's grace changes us. God's grace does not free us to sin. It frees us from sin. Decieved Christians have a false sense of security believing that they can sin until the day they die and still go to heaven, but they don't have faith in the power of the Holy Spirit to free them from the bondage of sin itself. Any notion of the freedom that God offers is quickly discouraged by false churches. There is more money in it for them if they keep their followers in the dark.
    Jesus said, "Go and sin no more." The majority of his followers contradict him.
    There is no doubt, countless Christians who have embraced false doctrine have ended up in Hell.
    To deny the power of the Holy Spirit to deliver us from sin so that we can live a righteous life is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
    The Apostle Paul said:
    "Make every effort to live in peace with everyone and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord."
    Hebrews 12:14
    One who has not been converted to righteousness is not saved.
    Galatians 5:19-21 confirms this:
    "Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God."

    • @dh1335
      @dh1335 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I 100% agree with you, I stopped sinning 9 years ago, and the Lord has kept me, if you love God , more than your sin you can stop sinning. Check out Mike Desario teaching videos on TH-cam. A true Bible teacher

    • @miraclemannequin
      @miraclemannequin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're both deluded.

    • @dh1335
      @dh1335 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@miraclemannequin you’re deceived

    • @miraclemannequin
      @miraclemannequin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't believe you because the Bible tells me not to believe you. 1 John 1:8

    • @Myjesus-1
      @Myjesus-1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@miraclemannequin The apostle John did talk about how confessing our sins is necessary to receive salvation. When he said that we are lying if we say we have no sin, he was saying if we don't admit that we have sinned in our past, we wouldn't be able to confess.
      John was not saying that everyone continues in sin.
      John described the life of those after they recieve the Holy Spirit as living in righteousness.
      John said that those who know God do not sin. He cannot sin because God's seed (the Holy Spirit) remains in him. He said that one who sins does not know God and has never seen God.
      People have taken this verse out of context for years. They have twisted scripture as a way to justify their sins.
      The Apostle John said, "Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
      He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
      "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."
      Paul Washer is a very subtle and convincing Wolf In Sheep's Clothing.

  • @gsixty
    @gsixty 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sin has NO authority over the believer. Sin can ONLY request that you partake of it JUST like God draws a person. The person has a choice to make "Choose you this day whom you will serve."
    1 Cor 10:13
    There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
    Luke 22:40
    Pray that ye enter not into temptation.

    • @dvs7440
      @dvs7440 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amen, God told Cain in Genesis 4:7 to rule over sin. He wanted him to rule over the temptation to kill his brother, but he didn't a became a slave to sin.

  • @RefutingSkellyism
    @RefutingSkellyism 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Its a shame that this video has been posted for over 5 months and yet has only 529 views. All who name the Name of Christ would greatly benefit from these words.
    Thanks for the post.

    • @OfficialBlendFizz
      @OfficialBlendFizz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hows your life with Jesus 10 years later :)

  • @stephenireland3816
    @stephenireland3816 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We are perfectly dead to sin, on the condition we surrender our will, and not fight sin! If we surrender our will to Jesus, we are not then using our will to fight sin. Sin depends on my will for power, the power to overcome me!

  • @walljos314
    @walljos314 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What is habitual sin? If I fail at my prayer life, use blasphemy, feel lust in my heart but I ask God to forgive and purge this sin but I am a wretched man as in Romans 7, what do I do? God help me. Jesus blood covers but i am not good enough. I’m a wretched miserable father husband of two non verbal special needs children. I am a failure and complete despite, Jesus is the victor. Do I look towards my failures or look toward Jesus the author and finisher of my faith?

  • @Skinski7
    @Skinski7 12 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So while Paul Washer may convince people that not only are they the Romans 7 wretch, he convinced them they will remain the wretch for their whole life. Thus he denies Rom 8:2-4. He convinces people they cannot walk in the light and thus negating being cleansed of all unrighteousness. A master deception from Satan for those who see the hypocrisy in the church system. What doesn't he teach? That you MUST crucify the flesh with its passions and desires. Satan has removed this part from the Gospel!

    • @andrewericjamesclark6808
      @andrewericjamesclark6808 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sure he doesn't teach that?

    • @dpastor6631
      @dpastor6631 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, you're confusing sanctification and justification.

    • @marytitus2874
      @marytitus2874 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Crucifying the flesh isn't part of the gospel itself, it's something people do on their walks? And im not even a calvinist but I've heard Calvinists talk about killing sin constantly.
      Like im not sure what you believe about what they believe

    • @Skinski7
      @Skinski7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marytitus2874 The crucifixion of the flesh IS a part of the Gospel, it is a part of the cross as Jesus taught.
      "Pick up your cross, deny yourself and follow me." That's what Jesus taught.
      Without the death of the old man there can be a rebirth of the new man, no born again experience. It's not something one does later on, over and over again, as the Calvinists preach.
      Calvinists speak of killing sin constantly because they live in sin, having never died to sin in a real repentance. Calvinism is just rehashed gnosticism wherein they view salvation as a form of abstraction separated from reality.

    • @marytitus2874
      @marytitus2874 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Skinski7 No there are verses that talk about putting away your former self and mortifying the deeds of the flesh through the Spirit after you become a Christian.

  • @theneverending9319
    @theneverending9319 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those walking in darkness were those who said they had no sin, it was the Gnostics John was speaking against.

  • @godsees-5871
    @godsees-5871 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If JESUS never sinned and satan always sins, and you sin everyday, which one are you following?

  • @hvacunveiled8268
    @hvacunveiled8268 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also sinless profectionalism does away with the definition of grace. How can it be grace if grace is given and then its up to you to earn the grace thats given. Its essentially trying to re-define works based salvation with different creative words in a new specific order! One guy told me I blashemed by calling Paul a sinner. He believed Paul went on to perfection but Paul talked about his struggle. I find the main issue with there logic is they use assumtion leaps, like David commiting murder and because nothing is mentioned about it again, they concluded he stopped this and all willful sins. Its the same logic as saying a topic isnt talked about or mentioned again so we can infer it didnt happen anymore and sometimes even to a greater degree it didnt happen. He claimed he repented so I said that would mean he could never do this sin again but he can do every sin that there was once and then repent? What if i repented of a lie and then lied 10 years later, can I repent again? What if Moses disowbeyed God again like the Rock 10 years later? Would God throw Moses in hell or punish him again? What if David murdered 10 years later. It is hard for kings to not kill? As you can see there are huge problems with there logic. Its because of there assumtion leaps!

    • @miraclemannequin
      @miraclemannequin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      People who believe in sinless perfectionism are delusional.

  • @BondiHarry
    @BondiHarry 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @HeavenBound2323 Pride? You are confusing the man who thinks HE can keep God's commandemnts perfectly by his own will and discipline with the man who KNOWS he can do no such thing and surrenders his imperfect will to God's perfect will. Sinless perfection is impossible under the law because man is imperfect. It is however possible under grace because it is God acting in us perfecting us. AND HEREBY WE DO KNOW THAT WE KNOW HIM, IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS (1 John 2:3)

  • @shiphrahhopeful
    @shiphrahhopeful 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jesus Christ preached his gospel. It is to obey his commandments so that we may have eternal life. But, Satan and his servants preach not to obey God, but they do it in deceptive ways. Will you obey the commandments of Jesus Christ for eternal life?

    • @julianhouston.bondservanto1191
      @julianhouston.bondservanto1191 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amen

    • @RedIO22
      @RedIO22 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why do we need the gospel?

    • @SpEaRtaKo_24
      @SpEaRtaKo_24 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RedIO22
      For guidance and thrust in Our Savior of Sins, not our license of Sin to never-ending cycle of sin.
      Try this stop sinning for a Hour, if You can!
      You can stop sinning for purity.

  • @HeavenBound2323
    @HeavenBound2323 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @BondiHarry My point is this sir. Fight sin until the point of death. But if you do fall. God still loves youJesus did not preach sinless perfectionism. Why in the Lords prayer does He have us ask God forgiveness? Also what do you think about John 13:10?

    • @dvs7440
      @dvs7440 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      He not only preached it, he was a living example of it. A perfection translated in the Hebrew and Greek writings means, upright and sincere. Not that a man will never make a mistake or have an error in judgement (all the while not transgressing the laws of God)

  • @clintonjameshuddleston-apo9385
    @clintonjameshuddleston-apo9385 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Washer DOES preach sinless perfectionism tho by saying that Christians cannot lose their salvation no matter what.

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @truegospelofchrist We are perfect b/c we have the perfection of Christ imputed to us.

  • @brianbannon6746
    @brianbannon6746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1 Corinthians 3:15; 1 Corinthians 5:5; 2 Corinthians 5:10; Galatians 5:16-17; Ephesians 4:30

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    @truegospelofchrist How can you possibly know his standard of life? What angers me about you is you claim sinlessness when I know you are full of sin b/c ALL men are. Oh you may not commit the big sins listed in the 10 commandments, but there are countless little sins that you refuse to acknowledge. When the 10 comm... say thou shalt not covet, there are countless ways the heart can break this comm... ways that we don't even know, but God does. So don't claim the impossible.

    • @miraclemannequin
      @miraclemannequin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      People who believe they do not sin anymore are delusional.

  • @Haukman66
    @Haukman66 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    MOre great teaching from Brother Washer. Thanks for posting Jeff.

  • @gsixty
    @gsixty 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do not doubt that the prayer life is a direct reflection of the success on has over sin in their personal life.

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @callednchosen Thank you for pointing me to this sermon, it is the first time I have heard this particular sermon by Paul Washer. All I can say is if you have a problem with this then you have spiritual problems you need to deal with. God and I had a wonderful time together listening to this sermon it was just what I needed this morning.
    Now as far as Catholic churches, I have enough trust in Paul that He is following God.

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @truegospelofchrist Sir if you refuse the imputed Righteousness of Christ YOU will split hell wide open. Only those clothed in HIS Righteousness will be able to stand in the judgment of God. And the term is imputed or reckoned, transplanted is the Catholic heresy of infused.

  • @susanferreira7614
    @susanferreira7614 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If through confessed sin, God cleansed us from all unrighteouness (which is ALL sin) doesn't that mean we are then without sin. As IT IS WRITTEN in 1 John 3:4-9 "4 Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. 5 And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. 6 Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.
    7 Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God."
    When God created the world and everything in it, HE called it very good. IS it fare to reason that God expect nothing less than perfection. The Blood of Jesus made us righteous before God, and His Holy Spirit, in the believer who walk not according to the flesh BUT according to the SPIRIT(HOLY), makes us perfect before GOD and is not condemned because we no longer walk in the lust of the flesh.
    I love the analysis of the photo snapshots against the video. In the same manner there is DANGER in taking snapshots from scripture which teach anything you want it to teach. BUT GOD in His wisdom gave us the scripture in a format that flows like a video and tells us what we need to know not what we want to hear. As IT IS WRITTEN: , “Do not interpretations belong to God? Genesis 40:8 God bless your heart.

  • @u2bMODERATOR
    @u2bMODERATOR 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Continuing Calvin´s words: it is God who speaks, and clear it is what law he will have kept in the church, even to the end of the world. Wherefore does he demand of us a so extreme severity, if not to show us that due honor is not paid him, so long as we set not his service above every human consideration, so that we spare not kin, nor blood of any, and forget all humanity when the matter is to combat for His glory

  • @u2bMODERATOR
    @u2bMODERATOR 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Calvin agreed that those whom the ruling religious authorities determined to be heretics should be punished:
    “ Whoever shall maintain that wrong is done to heretics and blasphemers in punishing them makes himself an accomplice in their crime and guilty as they are. There is no question here of man's authority;

  • @lewishamiltonisapoorexcuse9930
    @lewishamiltonisapoorexcuse9930 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paul Washer is correct when he says God has predestinated us, but sadly wrong when he says a Christian would stills in after being born again

  • @KarenBledsoe
    @KarenBledsoe 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AWESOME video!!!

  • @calebcook77
    @calebcook77 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    1689Baptist, sir continue to stand as in Eph 6:13-14. I commend you and the others here and elsewhere who lovingly correct the pervasive errors of darkness that surround us on a daily basis. It is just so sad how men can be led into this garbage of sinless perfection. Pride is such a wicked thing though, so when you really think about it, it's no surprise how someone could fool themselves into thinking they could become perfect. We need to continue to pray for these lost souls.
    Shalom

  • @monsterhuntervideos4446
    @monsterhuntervideos4446 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Telling your wife you don’t have time when you don’t have time is morally right. Women do behave like overgrown children who need constant attention and it’s right for a man to correct that or not pamper to it, but I get your point.

  • @BondiHarry
    @BondiHarry 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @HeavenBound2323 God does want our love and He is most certainly worthy it but He also wants far more than that. He wants us to keep His commandemnts and salvation is only for those who do (Hebrews 5:9). 'Love' without obedience is like faith without works ... it is DEAD!

  • @Skinski7
    @Skinski7 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Paul Washer gospel = Recognise and admit you are the Romans 7 wretch.Give up trying to do anything. Trust in Jesus. If you are one of the elect you will be sinning less and less and thus have assurance that you are saved. If you see no change then you don't have assurance and may not be one of the elect so you need to just cry out to God some more and wait. Thus, strip the fluff, and Paul Washer teaches you don't have to do anything and that you can sin and not surely die. Dangerous wolf indeed.

    • @dvs7440
      @dvs7440 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amen, to someone who recognizes the swelling words of emptiness. It's funny how people think they are responsible for everything else in their life (ex. driving a car, doing their job, taking care of kids, personal hygiene, paying rent/mortgage etc.) expect being obedient to the commands of God. Thinking their salvation is a done deal and requires no effort of their own.

  • @real8342
    @real8342 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Darkness is walking in a lie..delusion is darkness..darkness in delusion..Satan comes as a angel of light,it's a delusion!!!

  • @Terry8150
    @Terry8150 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @1689Baptist Discipleship is all about choice. To his own people the challenge was made, "choose you this day whom ye will serve." Joshua 24:15 Understanding that the wrong choice will bring us judgment in this life or before the Lord is key. Joshua 24:20, " If ye forsake the Lord, and serve strange gods, then he will turn and do you hurt, and consume you, after that he hath done you good."

  • @innocenceagain
    @innocenceagain 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent thanks for posting. :) God bless!

  • @Terry8150
    @Terry8150 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @1689Baptist 1 John is a test for the believer to understand, that by abiding in Christ, we won't be "ashamed before him [at his coming.]" 1John 1:28 Hear what God said to his own in Jeremiah 13:25-26. "This is thy lot, the portion of thy measures from me, saith the Lord; becasue thou hast forgotten me, and trusted in falsehood. Therefore will I discover thy skirts upon thy face, that thy shame may appear."

  • @repentancesmith4125
    @repentancesmith4125 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your expostion of 2 Corinthians 5:21 is incorect, we have the imputed rightouesness of God, through the atoning work of Christ.

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @callednchosen There is nothing wrong with labels such as Calvinist, it helps us understand a persons beliefs

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @callednchosen You need to tell me what video you are talking about.
    Although I have probably seen it b/c I have listened to hundreds of his sermons.

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @getteranime
    It wasnt meant to idolize just to keep the eyes busy while watching.

  • @gsixty
    @gsixty 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @gore53
    1 Corinthians 2:15
    But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
    Galatians 5:16
    This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
    Don't get misled into thinking you can't overcome the flesh by His Spirit.

  • @markgordon3955
    @markgordon3955 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    what about someone who is walking in the light but says they are walking in darkness

  • @u2bMODERATOR
    @u2bMODERATOR 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @1689Baptist The only thing Calvin said was that he could be decapitated .The Geneva Council refused his request. On 27 October 1553 Servetus was burned at the stake just outside Geneva with what was believed to be the last copy of his book chained to his leg.

  • @gsixty
    @gsixty 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blend or confirm? The only part that "blends" is the Paul Washer bit my friend. That is the messed up part. But thanks for coming out.

  • @Terry8150
    @Terry8150 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    John understands that all believers sin. 1 John 1:8 We are admonished to "sin not." 1 John 2:1 John urges believers to "know" Christ. The word "know" means to have experiential knowledge. That comes by having a desire to keep his commandments or precepts. 1 John 2:3 The believer positionally abides in Christ, but John is talking about relationship. The believer who abides positionally in Christ, "ought himself also to walk, even as he walked." 1 John 2:6
    The believer makes the choice.

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    cont...
    and, notwithstanding all their sins and infirmities, they will not be ashamed, for they will have on the wedding garment, the righteousness of Christ, and will stand before the throne without fault, spot, or blemish; nor will Christ be ashamed of them who have not been ashamed of him and his words, but have confessed him, and have been faithful unto death, and have cleaved to him and his cause with full purpose of heart to the end.

  • @getteranime
    @getteranime 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is just a suggestion, try not to put a montage of Paul Washer pictures in your video. I think he would like it that way too. This is so that there won't be even a hint about him, but just the message from God which is his primary goal from preaching.

  • @u2bMODERATOR
    @u2bMODERATOR 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well thank you for your answer , but if you are supporter to death penalty , there is something wrong. How is it possible is you believe that God is sovereign? He decides who he will take to him or not. In USA if we apply the capital penalty how many " Elects " will be lost before God completes his work ( saying in the Calvinist perspective) . Who can say when the person sentenced to death will repent to salvation? And also Jesus condemns killing.

  • @gsixty
    @gsixty 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @gore53
    2 Tim 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
    Matt 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
    You throw a lot of stones for someone who doesn't know the person they are talking to,

  • @sheridandalgetty3485
    @sheridandalgetty3485 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Greeting unto you, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth. The first thing a Person know Who is sin, and What is sin, until you have that foundation that is the only way you will know where to start from, because today when I tell people to get out of the churches and get into your Bible you people only get mad with me, and your life is in big trouble not with man but with the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ of Nazareth. The Lord say go and sin no more John 8)

  • @matthewwittwer8969
    @matthewwittwer8969 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This makes sense

  • @MariusVanWoerden
    @MariusVanWoerden 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never lost is never saved. Jesus came to seek and save that which was lost.
    Regeneration by Calvin is the work or fruits of the Spirit throughout our life.
    How can faith be the consequence of or come after the New Birth If God justifies THE UNGODLY? Are the ungodly borne again? Romans 3:28 Therefore WE CONCLUDE THAT A MAN IS JUSTIFIED BY FAITH. The order of salvation is: Ungodly, Faith and by faith we are justified.
    Faith cannot come after the new birth.
    Romans 4:5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, 6 just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works:
    Institutes of Calvin: CHAPTER 3.
    REGENERATION BY FAITH. OF REPENTANCE.
    That repentance not only always follows faith, but is produced by it, ought to be without controversy (see Calvin in Joann. 1:13). For since pardon and forgiveness are offered by the preaching of the Gospel, in order that the sinner, delivered from the tyranny of Satan, THE YOKE OF SIN, AND THE MISERABLE BONDAGE of iniquity, may pass into the kingdom of God, it is certain that no man can embrace the grace of the Gospel without retaking himself from the errors of his former life into the right path, and making it his whole study to practice repentance. Those who think that repentance precedes faith instead of flowing from, or being produced by it, as the fruit by the tree, HAVE NEVER UNDERSTOOD ITS NATURE, AND ARE MOVED TO ADOPT THAT VIEW ON VERY INSUFFICIENT GROUNDS.
    >
    Justification is a work of God the Father and the Holy Spirit in us and without us. Justification and faith do not have a sequence in time but in order Faith- Justification but are simultaneously in time. Sanctification is a work of The Holy Spirit in us but not without us. Justification and SANCTIFICATION cannot be separated. There is no sanctification without justification or justification without sanctification, this even when sanctification is just a begin of regeneration through all our life. Faith is by Grace and the free gift of God. The Bible teaches us the Justification of the UNGODLY. [Made/ declared Righteous] Not a believer is justified.
    James 2: 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works [read FRUITS] is dead? Faith First then Fruits of Faith
    There is a general working of the Holy Spirit in the hearing of the Word that convicts and precedes faith but not always leads to salvation. See the parable of the sower.
    This is how Calvin preached the Gospel
    FREE OFFER OF THE GOSPEL (Calvin's Wisdom p119-120)
    He calls all men to himself, without a single exception, and gives Christ to all, that we may be illumined by him. When we pray, we ought, according to the rule of charity, to include all. God invites all indiscriminately to salvation through the Gospel, BUT THE INGRATITUDE OF THE WORLD IS THE REASON why this grace, which is equally offered to all, is enjoyed by few.
    Other than the result of men’s refusal.Calvin never preached Double predestination as you can see and put the responsibility by men.

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Terry8150
    1Jn 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
    No true christian will be ashamed b/c we are clothed in HIS righteous.
    They will not be put to shame by him; nor will they be ashamed of their confidence, faith, hope, and expectation; their hope will not make them ashamed, for they will now enjoy what they hoped for;

  • @gsixty
    @gsixty 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @gore53
    2 Cor 5:21 "For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him."
    When you say, "we sin" it sounds like this, "For he has made Jesus to be sin for us, who knew no sin that we might be made the righteousness of God in sin/him."
    2 Tim 2:19
    Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knows them that are his. & let every one that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

  • @Terry8150
    @Terry8150 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @1689Baptist We can take lessons from the OT because they are for our learning. Can you imagine God being ashamed of his own people? Of course the ones faithfulful to him will not fall into that category. Heb. 11:16. God judges his own. He wasn't talking to just the good guys of his own when he said, " This is thy lot, the portion of my measure from me, saith the Lord; [because] thou hast [forgotten] me, and trusted in falsehood." Jer. 13:25 The forgetful believer. 2Pet.1:9

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @youratm
    For the life of me, I cant see why this is soooo hard to understand. You can run, run, run, from sin till the cows come home, and it will merit you nothing for or keeping salvation. 1John is talking to the one that DONT run, nor have a desire to run from sin. those people NEEED to worry that God is not at work in them, in sanctification,and there is NO regeneration.
    Where is the boasting? I didnt hear it.

  • @kmsharley75
    @kmsharley75 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "It is finished"

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @u2bMODERATOR You said "How is it possible is you believe that God is sovereign?" b/c God not only decrees the ends He also decrees the means.
    "In USA if we apply the capital penalty how many " Elects " will be lost before God completes his work?" All men die at Gods decreed time whether it is old age, car accident, or capital punishment. Capital punishment does not take death into our hands outside of Gods decree. God brings His elect to Himself in His own time,

  • @HeavenBound2323
    @HeavenBound2323 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @BondiHarry It's not about what you do. God can raise up rocks to do what you do and do better than you. If you believe that you are sinless thats fine.. I hope God leads you to what he really wants from you. And thats your love, and he wants to reveal himself to you. John 17:3 Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent..

  • @gideonboots1008
    @gideonboots1008 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are not correct…walking in darkness means to have NOT been transformed from the kingdom of darkness INTO the light..once that is done we are IN the Light and SHALL NOT PASS into judgement…we are not saved by works but simply by faith in Christ and His promise is then sealed in us by The Holy Spirit..done deal,, we then pursue righteousness daily through being sanctified…you know false teachers by fruit you know Christian by FAITH.

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Terry8150
    Sir, look at the choice that was given, Jos 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
    It was a choice between false gods, not a good verse to prove choice.

  • @AL-ri6bk
    @AL-ri6bk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    what the heck is sin? ... my finite mind cant really cope...?

  • @-Thelordismyshepherd-
    @-Thelordismyshepherd- 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you still sin, you are not saved.
    Not of works.

  • @u2bMODERATOR
    @u2bMODERATOR 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use to think: If a Reformed believing that he is chosen , practice the justice and search for God´s will , ok for me, he is saved. The same way adepts of election should think: If a non election adept , is chosen, God will provide his integrity . Is simple. As I can see, you are not a calvinist, you are a Christian. This is what Jesus told about those who eat meat and those who don´t .There are some differences that are not sufficient to turn us different, if We know that only Jesus saves.

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @callednchosen When I and most people today speak of Calvinism we are referring to the TULIP that is nick named Calvinism

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @thePathofaPilgrim
    God bless you brother.

  • @u2bMODERATOR
    @u2bMODERATOR 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @callednchosen Yes, You are right . But many Reformed don´t think as you, nor as mr. Paul washer. Most of them put in their profiles , Calvinist as a doctrine, and there are more Calvins quotes than from Bible. This is what I condemn. And if you think i´m wrong, go search in their profiles to see. I have a deep respect for Paul washer, even disagreeing about election and the total control of men´s will by God.

  • @thethikboy
    @thethikboy 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    If what he says is true, then I have never known any Christians

  • @u2bMODERATOR
    @u2bMODERATOR 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @1689Baptist God do not exchange his sovereignty by iniquity . As he , even in the NT accepted to give a King to Israel that asked: We need a king to go before us and Saul was elected . God wanted to be the king of Israel. He said what we plug in earth will be plugged in heaven , meaning the responsability of men. The way you say, if a person is victmin of Pedophilia in a country that allows it , is Gods will? God don´t put his sovereignty first of his justice. He proved it in Philipians 1.

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @innocenceagain
    you'r welcome, sister

  • @ChiTownOnDeck
    @ChiTownOnDeck 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The gospel is simple, people. Christ did the work. "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved". Praise God for his awesome gift of eternal life! The just shall walk by FAITH.
    Whenever some one explains the gospel, "breaking down things" instead of telling you to call upon the name of the Lord then that is a red flag. Trust in Christ today. Repent from your works and believe in Christ and his atoning work. Believe that eternal life is in his son and if we believe then we are one with God. We are in Christ and sealed unto the day of redemption.
    Believest thou this?

  • @marthaleak4903
    @marthaleak4903 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is true!!!!!!

  • @u2bMODERATOR
    @u2bMODERATOR 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @1689Baptist Sorry but as Calvin was tempted to kill someone in that age , many others like Sister Blandina( who died bitten by lions ) were also. Also in NT, there were not the Christian doctrine , and killing was allowed by God in some circumstances. Also , We don´t see any apostles of Christ Killing anyone . And i believe their sufering and the condition they were in , was pretty much harder than the Calvin situation , Calvin was a leader in that time.

  • @gloryinthe3rd166
    @gloryinthe3rd166 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You remember the guy that was in that church that Paul said put him out of the church that his soul might be saved do you remember what that guy was doing? Like on a routine basis? So I'd have to say it is very possible to be saved and have a point in time in your life where you're sending more than the next guy some people tend to think that they are better than the next guy because they hide the sins that they do instead of let them be known. I have no problem telling brother things is do because I know GOD knows lol so why do I care if you do lol some things I may keep personal but just about everything I mean I would say you know I may not share my social security number with you LOL

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @u2bMODERATOR Sir, this is not true. Michael Servetus had a fair trial in which he was condemned to death. His biggest crime was denying the Trinity. I will admit that punishment for crime was to severe but that was the time in which they lived. It was no worse than the OT in the Bible

  • @gloryinthe3rd166
    @gloryinthe3rd166 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    To me sin is sin no matter if it's a little bit here and there or alot here and there people that could care less about JESUS don't care one way or the other if they sin at all but when your saved you think about your sin in a completely different way then a lost person does but anyway anything that's trying to help you stay away from sin that's good man we should never ever sin you should always try not to sin but I'm to the understanding that my sin has been paid for past present and future the Sands that I do on the accident are the sins I do on the purpose I don't have sin Tourette's I don't believe there's no such thing as send Tourette's will you have some involuntary spasm of sin and I think it is ridiculous to think that the only time people sin is by accident but I totally agree sin is bad all the time and all the time sin is bad but I also believe that JESUS Paid for our sins and sinners like myself need a savior so I thank JESUS if he doesn't save me I won't be saved.

  • @gsixty
    @gsixty 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Intermittent sin or habitual sin... I thought sin was sin?
    "If a man knows to do good and does NOT... this is sin".
    As far as I can see we if we continue in sin (habitual or not) are WE NOT DENYING Jesus' power over sin in our lives? Is our God not bigger than sin? WE make the gospel of no effect to this dying world IF we accept this false teaching.
    Matthew 10:33
    But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
    It doesn't concern salvation?

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Terry8150 You said (Hear what God said to his own in Jeremiah 13:25-26.)
    To use Israel as an example of the christian is faulty, b/c they really were not His people. God real chosen people were found inside af a people.
    Rom 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

  • @michael75884
    @michael75884 ปีที่แล้ว

    james 2:15-25. hebrews 10:26-27. titus 1:16. 2 thessalonians 1:8-10. revelations 21:8. 1 corinthians 6:9-11
    nobody is once saved always saved and nobody is saved by belief alone
    and if you really had God working in you then you would hear Jesus speak to you john 10:25-30. john 5:38-44
    according to Jesus Christ Himself you are a phony if you don't hear Jesus speak to you. john 10:25-30
    and true real repentance is a changed person a person that loses there old sinful nature and loses there old sinful habits and doesn't repeat the same sins again and again especially after repenting if the sins they is guilty of
    it isn't just a change of mind or heart
    yeah it takes more than belief to be saved but yes it is possible to lose you're salvation too as well
    hebrews 10:26-27 it doesn't say with the exception of what Jesus did on the cross it just straight up says NO SACRIFICE REMAINS if you keep sinning after learning the knowledge of the truth
    and no, nobody is once saved always saved what Jesus and His apostles taught proves it. even apostle paul said work as for the Lord the Christ
    obviously being a lazy believer is frowned upon
    people who have nothing except belief for there salvation and relationship with God etc and nothing else are lazy believers

    • @michael75884
      @michael75884 ปีที่แล้ว

      did you not read what 2 thessalonians 1:8-10 says or did you if you don't get to know God and if you don't obey Jesus's gospel you will be separated from God and you will be punished forever for it
      it doesn't get much more clearer and obvious than that
      eternal destruction same as torment and hell after Jesus made it quite clear that the path of destruction is hell or leads to hell
      so it is common sense what 2 thessalonians 1:8-10 is talking about when it is says eternal destruction obviously it isn't talking about heaven so only 1 other place it can possibly be referring to
      Jesus Christ Himself said if you love me you will keep my commandments that means what Jesus taught that isn't referring to the 10 commandments
      and keep means to not break
      therefore for a fact God will see you as a liar if you claim you love Him if you don't obey Him
      so yeah it is important to obey God Jesus Christ
      and furthermore that proves that nobody is saved by belief alone and nobody is once saved always saved
      revelations 21:8. 1 corinthians 6:9-11. makes it quite clear that all liars go to hell after all
      so no we are not saved by belief alone and nobody is once saved always saved
      you don't have God's trust and you don't have His protection etc if you are seen as a liar to Him
      especially if the way God sees you as a liar is because you don't obey Him
      hebrews 10:26-27 and titus 1:16 is quite clear and debunks that lie that falsely claims us to be once saved always saved as well
      if we can deny God with our actions then it is common sense that we cannot be saved by belief alone
      because yeah what we do, how we live our lives and our actions they do matter
      and definitely we are not once saved always saved if denying God is so easy to do that all we have to do is the wrong action
      then obviously you don't have to say it with you're words and you can still deny God nevertheless
      so yeah you read enough of the bible and pray more it does become quite evident, obvious and common sense even
      that it is a false gospel with false doctrines that falsely claims us to be saved by belief alone and it falsely claims us to be once saved always saved
      first and foremost red flag about that easy grace false gospel is the fact that what the real 1 and only Jesus Christ taught is the complete opposite of that easy grace false gospel
      Jesus Christ never preached a grace gospel. Jesus taught holiness,repentance,works and obedience
      Jesus never taught a 100% grace gospel
      so yeah obviously most churches they obviously preach lies they don't preach the truth
      the evidence and proof is in the bible
      heck even apostle james made it quite clear how faith without works is dead, worthless and meaningless
      if you don't show God with something other than you're lips that you believe and that you love Him then according to Jesus Christ Himself and His apostles you have a phony faith then
      even apostle paul said work as for the Lord the Christ obviously that means it is frowned upon to be a lazy believer who only has belief for there salvation and relationship with God etc
      james 2:15-25
      sinning believers and lazy believers they perish in hell
      Jesus Christ Himself said be ye perfect like you're Heavenly Father is perfect. we make God Jesus Christ Himself out to be a liar if we think ourselves to be able to perfect like God as a sinner
      if God never sinned then it is common sense that we can't be perfect like God like Jesus Christ commanded of us to be if we just remain being a sinner ourselves
      Jesus said they worship me with there lips but there heart is far away.
      Jesus said they think they are righteous because they say yes to God but they don't do the will of the Father.
      Jesus said if you where righteous you would be sinless. Jesus said go and sin no more
      so for all of you believers or make false claims and or are deluded to think it is somehow impossible to stop sinning ya'll call Jesus Christ Himself a liar
      and obviously you won't enter heaven if you are guilty of blasphemy that is common sense even
      everything i said Jesus said it is recorded in the bible after all
      and for a fact if you pay attention to the claims that easy grace gospel makes it indirectly calls Jesus a liar many several different times with the false claims that easy grace gospel makes especially if you compare it to what Jesus actually taught
      and yes if you compare it to what Jesus taught it is the complete opposite of Jesus's gospel it isn't what Jesus taught
      only a fool would think that easy grace gospel is somehow the gospel that saves when it goes directly against Jesus Christ Himself
      and when it goes against Jesus's gospel like hello where is the common sense with you believers nowadays smh
      yes i can say what Jesus did on the cross isn't enough for us to be saved because according to Jesus Christ Himself it isn't enough
      He requires of us to do more than just simply believe in Him and what He has done
      again the proof and evidence is in the bible
      so yeah it you easy grace gospel believers who are the one's distrusting Jesus and relying on you're own works and or understandings of things to save yourselves
      and the works based gospel believers ya'll are both guilty of it just in different ways
      if ya'll really did trust and rely on Jesus and His and sacrifice etc for you're salvation
      then ya'll wouldn't argument what Jesus Christ Himself commanded and ya'll wouldn't come up with you're own doctrines and you're own gospel with you're own ideas of how to be saved and salvation
      but you easy grace gospel believers are guilty of doing such things that makes you easy grace gospel believers phony believers and phony christians and not true children of God
      you're actions you easy grace gospel believers that is proved that ya'll rely on you're own ideas of how to be saved and salvation not what Jesus did
      if ya'll trusted and relied on Jesus to be saved and for salvation then ya'll wouldn't question what Jesus commanded and what Jesus taught and ya'll would just shut you're mouths and obey Jesus
      because obviously you easy grace gospel believers don't do that though
      that is a form of witchcraft called bible witchcraft what you easy grace gospel believers do twisting the scriptures and there meaning
      and twisting what Jesus said for you're own ideas of how to be saved and salvation that doesn't sound like a obedient child of God
      that sounds more like a sorcery
      and for a fact if it doesn't align up with what Jesus taught then it is lies especially if how to be saved and salvation is the topic of conversation
      you easy grace gospel believers had better get you're heads out of you're butts and wake up out of that deception ya'll is in and wake up altogether
      that easy grace gospel ya'll love to believe in has only made ya'll in direct opposition of God because it is the complete opposite of what Jesus Christ taught and it isn't the same as Jesus's gospel
      so yeah if you deluded believers keep thinking yourselves to be somehow saved by belief alone and somehow once saved always saved
      then ya'll will find yourselves in hell one day because that is NOT what Jesus Christ taught and that is NOT Jesus's commandments
      2 thessalonians 1:8-10 is quite clear after all
      and yeah you can stop sinning stop lying and stop lying to yourselves if you are standing in front of a car you isn't going to just stand there and let yourselves be hit and killed
      so why let yourselves keep sinning and die later with eternal torment eternal means forever
      nobody forced you to keep standing in front of that car or drink that beer or smoke that cigarette
      so yeah that is bullcrap and a lie for ya'll to make false claims that it isn't possible to stop sinning
      if it wasn't possible to stop sinning then explain how that is without indirectly calling Jesus Christ Himself a liar
      and with a lot of Jesus's sayings you would have to call Jesus a liar to make false claims that it isn't possible to stop sinning
      that's how deluded with satan's lies and how foolish you easy grace gospel believers are smh
      and yeah that is true Jesus Christ Himself said the wages of sin is death.
      and the second death is hell it obviously isn't heaven

  • @driesvzyl143
    @driesvzyl143 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I believe that we can walk perfectly as our Heavenly Father Mt.5:48.
    Your reference in 1 Jn.1 is out of context. - trying to make excuses by allowing sin to be a daily occurrence (business as usual as if we are still slaves of sin)- thus still a nature in the believer - 2 Pet.1:4 - says - that we are of LIKE PRECIOUS FAITH - and therefore partakers of God's Divine nature.

    • @clintonjameshuddleston-apo9385
      @clintonjameshuddleston-apo9385 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed, but we must strive to get there.

    • @driesvzyl143
      @driesvzyl143 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @clintonjameshuddleston-apo9385 - yes - but I would put it differently - striving can be seen as our own strength and works - rather than where we need to surrender to the power of the Holy Spirit to take control (Christ in us the hope of glory) to keep us triumphing in all trails

    • @clintonjameshuddleston-apo9385
      @clintonjameshuddleston-apo9385 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@driesvzyl143 "Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able." Luke 13:24
      Therefore, I see it both ways.

    • @driesvzyl143
      @driesvzyl143 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @clintonjameshuddleston-apo9385 yes - as long as we declare that it is no longer I who live - but Christ in me - hence the Faith that makes me overcome - for we can only stand in triumph via sufficient grace given - 👍🏻

    • @clintonjameshuddleston-apo9385
      @clintonjameshuddleston-apo9385 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@driesvzyl143 Amen brother :) I am a saint saved by grace, not a sinner.

  • @Bullisfamily123
    @Bullisfamily123 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dont kick your dog

  • @MG-hg1sq
    @MG-hg1sq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    his a false teacher, which add works to faith along in the gospel(christ died for our(you)sins, wayas buried and rose again = that along saved you, because christ died in you place, that u dont have to go to hell & he rose again and be trusting christ as saviour along(you believed the gospel) you get saved==

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @callednchosen This is not dangerous. He is not going against the Bible. We, you and I and PW all know that God is omnipresent The Bible gives us this information and we believe it. But just b/c I know God is in the room with me does not mean God has made His presences known as a reality. I don't know about you but I love the times when God visits me.

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Terry8150
    Also do you not believe 1John is a test to see if you believe?

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @CutClip
    I agree with you on the KJV, but there are different kinds of LS being taught and your video is lumping them all together, therefore you misrepresent me and Paul Washer.

  • @truegospelofchrist
    @truegospelofchrist 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @1689Baptist . He mentioned habitual sin and life stile, and I just referred that. You know neither about me nor about all men. As usual, you bluff about the things you do not know.

  • @gsixty
    @gsixty 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @gore53
    Heb10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
    What sacrifice & by whose blood will remain for one that sins willfully?
    Let me guess... when someone sins they don't do it willfully as though they don't have control of their own will. Is that what you are telling me?
    Just die already or keep living in the flesh that is the choice Jesus gives us.... Choose you this day who will be your master.

  • @julianhouston.bondservanto1191
    @julianhouston.bondservanto1191 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually it is possible to live sinless

    • @dvs7440
      @dvs7440 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amen! Watch out for them people who are going to hit you with the 1 John 1:8 "stick"

    • @RedIO22
      @RedIO22 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If that is possible why do you need Jesus?

    • @SpEaRtaKo_24
      @SpEaRtaKo_24 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RedIO22
      Past sins need require atonement: Jesus the lamb of God, for our Sins.

    • @miraclemannequin
      @miraclemannequin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No it's not

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Haukman66
    Hey, God Bless

  • @u2bMODERATOR
    @u2bMODERATOR 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    In this Test of fruits , Calvin would not pass through . He killed one man called Miguel Servet in fire , only because he disagreed with Calvinism . Even if he was a Pedophile , Calvin could not have this fruit as a Christian .

  • @brandonstahl15
    @brandonstahl15 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Washer is Very misleading....
    1 John 3:8-9 KJV
    [8] He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. [9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
    Matthew 5:48 KJV
    [48] Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @callednchosen What are you talking about??

  • @1689Baptist
    @1689Baptist  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Terry8150
    I would agree with you until the last line (The believer makes the choice.) ;)