Yep! After Vince left Tony can’t keep up with HHH and WWE. The company is now a failure and it all started after Cody Rhodes left and it got worse when they released the All In footage
@@themexicanwolverine You mean about to debut on MAX next month ? On their way to sell their first US Stadium show ? Don't believe everything that your Twitter echo chamber tells you.
@josecarlosramolete6109 True, but I mean Aew will NEVER reach that level of threat WCW had. WCW was beating WWFs ratings, they were beating their main show in viewers for 83 straight weeks.
Let's be real, they HAD the opportunity at their first year due to how hot and fresh they were (and Vince was still on his ultra senile mode), but Tony didn't capitalize it and instead he was slowly changing it into his personalized collect-all-wrestlers toy box and that was pretty much the end of the opportunity. Unlike his dad, Tony, unfortunately, isn't a really good businessman even when there's a gold mine standing in front of him.
@@FranklinDBluth see living in your own delusion is good but you can't change the fact how Bucks made the tag team division relevant and Hangman helped cm junk getting thrown out of company also best feud & heel of the year in 2024 too.
@@ricardoman8018 jade Cargill is the worst wrestler ever! Even worse than Becky cringe & Seth Rollins imagine supporting her lmao and cm punk buried himself in AEW 💯
Dave Meltzer is just a loser that can't get a job in mainstream wrestling company that only can do BS on the internet and worship by another big bunch of internet losers.
Sorry that is not for the "general audience", bro Not everything produced on TV ever has to appeal to the "general audience", pipe down the entitlement and let fans enjoy what they want to enjoy.
@@Intheknow12 bro, you all want the approval of the "general public" in order to not be ridiculed for being Wrestling fans, this is why you all are crying about "muh casuals", not of a genuine enjoyment for your favorite Wrestling company, it's just optics.
Things that made me personally stopped watching -Lost focus with roster. Everything felt interconnected early on -Too many belts. Why is there a continental title and an international title? -Dream matches for the sake of dream matches -Jericho. Don't hate him but some time off would be nice -Women's division is the worst it's ever been -Too much use of blood. It loses it's impact when you see it on every show -This one is a bit niche but getting rid of AEW Dark shows, we literally got 2 free shows weekly and got to see some talent grow like The Acclaimed I hope it bounces back, AEW needs to exist so that other companies stay on their feets
I've never been a huge fan of wrestlers becoming managers of personalities or tag teams...but Jericho is clearly better these days working the stick than in the ring. He is one of the very very very few people in wrestling HISTORY who has the ability to be equally as good at that aspect. He'd have to want to change his approach (as all his personality now is for the purpose of engagement with HIM later) but that's kind of his thing. Figuring out what the people want before they do.
For sure. They need to hire a creative team already to create good storylines. Wrestling is more than what goes on in the ring and AEW needs to understand that if they want to grow. Or in this case: survive.
Cody Rhodes too had the biggest & most important role in the overall and successful organization of ALL IN, by both, financially and in terms of promoting it to the masses and fetching in so many great wrestlers. He's the one who revolutionized the wrestling in the latter half of last decade. Today, he is the biggest name in the world of pro wrestling.
Exactly. He was who lead the organization of the first All In, Bucks were like his EVPs in it-(something they might have become bitter about), TK joined after the PPV.
the cheesiest and most obnoxious aspect in either brand is that fucking stupid cody rhodes angle. his entire entrance is a pathetic circus of self promotion. It ran out of steam a year ago....but wwe has a history of running shit 6 feet into the dirt before they even consider changing up characters, storylines, gimmics, or anything else. The only thing sadder and more pathetic is the nightly routine done by bianca bel air.
AEW needs storyline continuity, and they need to recognize and display their top stars who have previously won the world championship which are Chris Jericho, Adam Page, Jon Moxley, MJF, Samoa Joe and Swerve Strickland. Those are AEWs' top stars based on the decision of them being former world Champs in AEW and still being active. Tony Khan needs to keep it simple and not have complex storylines. Wrestling is simple. Everyone wants the belt to potentially create a lasting legacy. For the future stars they should have to go through those six to become a main eventer within AEW. Regardless of if they are an Ex wwe star or indy, they need to go through those six to be classified as a maineventer within AEW.
@@kevinkthedj its not contructive when it completely misses the point and only puts the wwe fanboy fanboy of view, we dont want to be like wwe, if they need to change its stop hiring wwe fails and be more like new japan, aew exists because of dumb wwe storylines that make zero sense and a portion of the audience actually want wrestling,
@@Mintycomenter6000 This.... surprisingly makes good sense. Especially that "Wrestling is simple" part. Perfection. Wrestling doesn't need to be the wannabe MCU, it doesn't have to pretend to be Emmy Award material.. *Wrestling Is Simple*
@@Mintycomenter6000 This.... surprisingly makes good sense. Especially that "Wrestling is simple" part. Perfection. Wrestling doesn't need to be the wannabe MCU, it doesn't have to pretend to be Emmy Award material.. *Wrestling Is Simple*
i have tried numerous times to get into aew. every time they had some random wrestler just show up and is now in the mix of an angle. then excalibur or schivone expects me as a fan to be knowledgeable of the ongoings of the Santa Fe indie scene. im out.
You're only making an excuse, bro. You're an adult (at least I do hope), you're more than capable of catching up by yourself, don't expect the show to hold your hand or feed you like a baby 🍼
@@YourProfessional-Gachagamer he’s not wrong though. How can you expect to attract a newer target audience and treat them like they’re just supposed to know automatically who the wrestlers are? That’s why they’ll always be a small wrestling promotion because it only targets a certain audience.
@@elikennedy6934 I mean, you can always try to pay attention to what the commentary team is saying, or looking up social media, there's helpful accounts that can help you get up to speed, but again, it takes two. I see that Pro Wrestling seems to attract people who like to act like useless babies. Hell, you're using your fingers to type this comment above, might as well fire up Google and look who Wrestler A or B are, it's literally not hard.
@@elikennedy6934 which audience? Actual Pro Wrestling fans ? People who know how to use Google or social media? Admitting to being useless babies isn't the flex you think it is, man.
there are three pivotal moments which killed aew's momentum. cm punk's brawl out presser-he showed how the sausage was made. he showed there was no leadership. the leadership that was in place were indie jag offs who only had a indie mindset and only wanted to play with their friends. cody rhodes' departure-he co-founded aew. he promised to take wrestling in a new direction. he wanted to revolutionize the entire industry. he was mr.aew. HE LEFT!!! vince's ouster- the main drawing power of aew was it wasnt vince's stale, out of touch, poop joked filled, and very inconsistent wwe. Well that guy was given the boot. there is nothing aew can rebel against as the big bad boogy man was shown the door.
Completely agree, just couple Vince's ousting with Papa H taking control of creative. While he hasn't been perfect, for the most part, he's had some amazing stories and booking. He really exposed how out of touch Vince was and just how much Vince mishandled stories, characters and matches etc etc. Fans were tired of the ridiculous and whack stories and how their favorite wrestlers were booked. Triple H has completely turned that all the way around.
Back when WWE and WCW were rivals, WWE had to think of something new to stay ahead of the competition And so, the Attitude Era came about. AEW has to think of something never been seen in the wrestling world to be noticed. They’re literally competing with a billion-dollar industry
The real reason why Attitude Era was inaugurated it was because WWE was able to see a LOOPHOLE on WCW: NWO storyline. NWO storyline got many WCW fans sick and tired of the same faction storyline over and over again. The straw that broke the camel's back was Sting joining NWO Wolfpac (red and black faction).
The fact Punk was willing to put his personal feelings aside and work with the Elite says a lot. Especially since they declined. It shows who put the product and good of the company before themselves and who didn't. Look at how great it has been with Punk in WWE. He has been a veteran and mentor for a lot of NXT talent and is apparently a model citizen backstage. The Elite put the Elite before AEW and they always have.
It amazed me watching Survivor Series and the following Raw that the way Punk was booked was a masterclass of what AEW could have done with him and the Elite. Money was there to be made and the Bucks blew it all away for their own petty egos.
As an AEW fan, Cody leaving was massive because it gave a sign on how things were backstage. Also they did too many WWE references which got stale super quickly
After Cody Rhodes left that was a huge sign AEW was headed towards its downfall. Once CM Punk came back to WWE and exposed AEW that’s when things completely fell apart. AEW will ever recover from the All In backstage footage. Tony should’ve just ignored CM Punk when he did that interview but he decided to act like a child and cry about it saying “my life was in danger”
Disagree about the roster. They literally have a best roster in any wrestling promotion. They just suck at creating new storyline (from past 2 years atleast)
I strongly criticize Tony's booking but I don't think that they have a bad roster. IMO AEW has a lot of the best wrestlers under contract. Tony just has no idea what to do with them. RoH for example is filled with great talent who are breaking their bodies in front of no audience.
They tried putting Toni Storms return match against the whole of Saturday Nights Main Event. Toni was on top of the fucking globe, but in her absence everyone saw just how god awful Tony is at booking and checked out. Despite all the ex-WWE guys he’s been buying up, people aren’t interested because the audience knows they’ll never hit the highs they should if they aren’t friends with Hogan and the rest of the NWO- I mean The Young Bucks and The Elite. Toni like MJF and Swerve Strickland should be instant ratings but are the golden sails on a sinking ship
I would argue that most of the problems caused by the Elite where simply just Matt and Nick + Adam Page talking shit. I really don't believe Kenny is likely to do any of that stuff, besides he was mostly injured and out during most of the drama after the All Out Brawl.
@@कृतार्थयादव and then you look at their ratings. Oh sorry, we only can focus on AEW's, right ? We never talk about WWE really not growing as much as you all pretend it is...
@YourProfessional-Gachagamer 👏🏽👏🏽 they talk about a "boom period" boom period, my ass lol they constantly lie about that, and their fans eat it up and parrot everything they hear because they can't think for themselves
I would get a booker. A professional, seasoned, successful booker, to run the company. Khan can be the owner, no problem. But having him as the owner/booker is like being the manager and also playing center field and batting 4th. You need someone disconnected from the money and the stigma that Tony carries. Lock up MJF for life, and establish a long-term relationship with Japanese promotions.
I think it can be a competitor again but Tony needs to hire actual creative/executive teams and stop treating the promotion like it’s a toy and be a leader.
I can't believe AEW still havent done a brand split. Their roster is way too big and they have 2 one hour shows nobody cares about in Rampage and Collision. Combine those 2 shows into one show with an official brand split with its own champions and storylines.
Nah, he also watched NJPW, All Japan, and various territories that were available through tape trading. I disagree with the limitations you placed on his "research", but I'm stealing the nickname. It's perfect.
Straight out of Vince's playbook and I'd be here for it. Don't think that's his style tho, as a former wrestler he probably wouldn't want to show the whole company up like that
Here is what AEW needs to do: Take the book from Tony Khan. Remove any executive status from any active wrestlers backstage. Rehire CM Punks ex best friend CM Punk
Instead of signing laid-off WWE wrestlers, AEW should actively poach WWE's camera/lighting/editing team. It's not just the wrestler and booker who makes a great wrestling TV show you know!
One problem i have notice with aew is that when a wrestler is getting a push we dont see them again for weeks on end like hook and certain storylines just get dropped and we never hear it again like the adam cole turning heel and mjf turning face. They dont know how to make new stars
Triple h made it a bloodbath. Even the debut of AEW wasn't even close to a single episode of SmackDown under triple h. The tribal Chief storyline, Drew McIntyre versus CM punk, liv Morgan vs reah Ripley . They haven't even played their trump card of the rock vs Roman reigns. They turned Rey Mysterio son into the greatest heel of all time. He literally can't get a single word out in any promo. Don't get me wrong CM punk versus MJF was huge but it wasn't even close to the level of Cody Rhodes versus the bloodline that ended in a 2-day WrestleMania extravaganza. They're so stacked right now they just took two of their top stars jade and Bianca Bel Air and put them in a tag team with no real direction and they're still killing it way more than any of the females in AEW. And you have to think WWE in their female division has two Hall of famers on the sidelines right now . Becky Lynch and Charlotte flair. I mean it's going to be at least a year before AW could get there feet below them again. They're just not going to beat John Cena's retirement year extravaganza. Just the idea of all the different stars that John Cena could make over the next year. All the different matches in his retirement year and the fact that he still could win the WWE championship and surpass Ric flair. Until Tony Khan gets his head out of his fourth point of contact I think he's going to be buried below WWE for quite some time
Pros: - Solid roster Cons: - Inconsistent storylines/no pay off - Sporadic appearances by wrestlers. Can't build a Stone Cold Steve Austin if they only show up every other week. - PPV cost - Too much creative freedom. It's similar to having a movie with a lineup of A-list actors and a very loose storyline that's mostly dependent on improv. You might see a wide range of acting ability, but it's not going to make sense in the overall scheme of things. - TK needs to stop pulling McMahon moves. If AEW isn't going to use a wrestler, and that wrestler wants to leave, let them go. It's obviously bad for the wrestlers, but it's also bad for the industry at large. Wasting someone's potential because you're petty isn't a good look. - Too many belts. Scarcity provides value. Future improvements: - Cheaper PPVs - HBO Max deal - The return of Kenny Omega
@@Morganj27 They didn't. If WWE would've done that, TNA wouldn't have reached their lowest TV rating (for a Wrestling company) on record. "But AEW", am I right?
I feel bad for the workers & wrestlers losing their jobs though....TNA now releasing some of their wrestlers in the name of budget cut........AEW need to think and book differently rather than shutting down and don't let the WWE to play monopoly again , we can clearly see the difference in WWE before and after AEW, AEW was a catalyst for WWE
Too many storylines that stall out, and too many things like the Young Bucks heel authority gimmick look like they came from early 2010s WWE. Also with all of the backstage attacks hospitalization, literal robbery, arson and murder fakeout you train the audience not to really pay attention to everything because "it's just a wrestling angle" and you can't suspend disbelief.
@@HighWoody No one was poached. WWE is many wrestlers' goal. Everyone knows Jordyn Grace will end up in WWE. It gave TNA some much needed exposure and for the fans, matches they never would have seen otherwise. It was far from a mistake.
AEW would be closed tomorrow with those goofy ideas. You guys have absolutely know idea what you're talking about. You would really hire a bum like Bully Ray who put the idea out there that Mox should include a domestic violence angle for his Death Riders character? You guys are slow af. Nothing but a bunch of weirdos
Triple H starting Raw one day saying he 'bought his competition' and how the 'fate of AEW is in his hands' in a few years would be.. sad yet funnily poetic.
A lot of their feuds are one-and-done. Literally after having a championship on a PPV, each competitor move on to something new. They're not letting their shit breathe.
This was way too nice to aew, especially early aew. It was really bad, they just had hype from signing a huge tv deal. Then they spammed their worst talent that had go away heat, not actual heat until now we're in the 500ks. Britt Baker was maybe the 9th best woman on the roster, bad on the mic and bad in ring and she got ALL of the women's promo time for 3 entire years. The bucks were like 2 Britt bakers every time they got air time it drug the ratings down. Cody was awful because he wouldn't do anything but a hero role, giving cringe workshopped apology promos when he finally booked himself to lose a match. I could go on and on and I didn't even touch orange cassidy or the baby flipping circus show "wrestlers", the burying of wardlow when he was over, ruining the CM punk bump, etc.. Tony Khan thought more of the same was the path to greatness but it turned out it was the path to 500k viewers on their flagship program.
As per Undertaker said at Smackdown vs RAW 2007 season mode, *"You got no one to blame but yourself"* + as per Snitsky said during his days on WWE, "It Wasn't My Fault"* because it's mostly Tony's own fault when he knows that he's the one who need to blame when his Wrestling Promotions goes bankruptcy. It's suck for them when all of them realise that AEW Dynamite constantly being beaten by WWE's Development Brands in terms of everything
wasn't that the "if you insist on making this mistake, then your grieving family will have no one else to blame but you when the inevetable occurs" segment?
@@arnav_verma619 WWE mentioned AEW like 5 times, one directly and couple insider jokes, AEW on the other hand had periods where they had to take open shots at WWE multiple times per show. Triple H didn't even mention Ospreay, he just said some people aren't willing to put on grind to work in WWE.
AEW put their whole identity on “being better than WWE”. And then WWE got better, so what the hell is their identity now? The answer is “Khan becoming Vince McMahon 2.0.”
It started with the Bucks "Victory lap" after CM Punk left. And it's been going downhill ever since. Because that also coincided with WWE's improvement and then a few months later it's return to boom period.
Timeout Kenny did a interview some months back and said him and punk been on good terms and was down to do a storyline but it was the bucks and hangman that didn't
One of the biggest problems of AEW is consistency. The only thing they consistently do is put on the same kind of match. Nothing stands out. They let their biggest star go. They keep putting the belt on bootleg Sandman and pretend he is the next Stone Cold. Jericho keeps making new factions without building anyone off of them.
What’s wrong with AEW… it’s boring there. Too much fricken wrestling, I mean don’t get me wrong I love wrestling but it’s like loving pizza, if you eat it everyday it eventually gets boring too.
I fully expect Moxley's "Deathriders" (just seeing that name makes me cringe like I read a page out of my 8th grade journal) to be either the new NWO, in that they won't go away until it's too late, or the Moxley version of Evolution, in that he will run roughshod over them too until he eventually is forced to put one of them over...
Dont let wrestlers run a company, cuz they have massive egos, get proper booker, promoter. You have to have balls to be a boss, have to understant that you cant please everyone and be everyones friend.. Ofcourse a lot of downfall was influenced by zVince leaving wwe and product getting way better for them
@ YES EXACTLY BUT FROM OCTOBER 1996 UNTIL DECEMBER 2024 I FAILED MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY BUT FROM JANUARY 2025 ONWARDS FOR THE FIRST AND LAST TIME I WILL DRASTICALLY CHANGE MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY AND YOU CAN BELIEVE OR NOT RESPECT MY OPINIONS OR NOT FAIR ENOUGH. NOW WORDS FLIES AND FACTS STAYS GOODBYE.
Better booking mainly. And they need to pick their top stars better. The guys that look like they'd be threats to the top WWE stars are hidden while much smaller, less charismatic guys like Yuta, Garcia, Cassidy, and Perry take up all the screen time. The only small guy in AEW that's believable as a top star is Darby and that's because he's equal parts Jeff Hardy, Rey Mysterio, and Mick Foley. He legitimately has something special right now and they're squandering it. The other guys need about 5-10 more years of ring, promo, and character work and at least 50 more pounds to be in the positions they're currently in. Watching Orange Cassidy the world beater run through half the roster undefeated when he looks like the guy selling me my Insignia TV at Best Buy is not a good look for him, the talent putting him over, or AEW as a whole. Orange Cassidy is not believable and he only would be if AEW were based inside of an anime. That's the only way he should be knocking guys out with his power of friendship punch.
The counterpoint to that is didn't Moxley get publicly beat by a burger flipper 50 pounds lighter than him at the bjj white belt level? The bigger tougher looking guy isn't always going to be the guy that wins in a real fight. People know that, so why think it should apply to a predetermined match when it doesn't apply in real life? Yes, the booking needs to be better, but trying to push guys that weren't already WWE stars isn't the problem. Inconsistent booking and stories that go nowhere or are dropped with no explanation is.
@@FailedBard It just needs to be guys more believable than Yuta, Garcia, Cassidy, and Perry. I gave Darby as an example already, he's basically a human missle that believably punches above his pay grade. Another is Jay White. The ideal would be Malakai Black. He's not the biggest guy but he's lean and looks like a fighter same with Hook. Out of the pack I listed, Yuta and Garcia have some potential, but Perry and OC are almost lost causes at this point without major character work, psychology changes or about 30 more pounds of muscle at least and even then they shouldn't be used when you have a perfectly good Pac, Buddy Matthews, and Claudio in the mix. These guys already have the look and star power.
While I don't believe it's impossible for them to improve, it's essential for them to take action, as the issues are undeniably significant. As an All Elite Wrestling fan, I feel these concerns must not be overlooked.
In an ideal world if I could make changes without any push back I would cut the roster down by over half. Get rid of every show not named Dynamite. Keep ROH as a developmental brand. Condense all the belts to give more continuity and start working out how to properly structure a show. Exciting opener. Important middle segment. Build towards the main event. Cut PPVs back down to 5/6 a year and run Battle of the Belts in the months that don’t have PPVs and actually promote them and that’s not even considering how I’d change the booking.
As far as North America is concerned, WWE is wrestling, and nothing else will ever change that or matter. The Kahns should just cut their losses now and shut down and sell everything to WWE so it can be archived, never to be spoken of again.
AEW's "problem" is that it is selling the same product that the WWE is, except they're 50 years and 50 years behind, worth of established contracts with companies and countries.
AEW had the potential but they couldn’t see pass their success when the failures at the time needed changes. As an example… if the Brit/Big Swole issue actually got handled, maybe we never get Punk vs McIntyre in the 2024 feud of the year.
The Punk footage killed them. Ratings crashed once they saw the footage and realised Khan had no reason to fire him. Tony Khan lost whatever goodwill he had with fans that night.
That footage would have come out at some point anyway. Without the footage, AEW's smear campaign against Punk bordered on defamation, and I expected there to be litigation against AEW in the near future. However, after the footage came out, the Punker was vindicated and he no longer needed to defend himself. It was all out there.
Tony Khan needs to hire a real booker and double down and limit all the false finishes, protect talents finishers. provide more investment in long term story booking
So funny because the fans and media actually thought that AEW was going to be huge. When in fact, they ruined themselves in the end. All that hype and here we are 5 years later. Low ratings, low attendance and consistent backstage drama
The Bucks don't get enough credit for ruining aew
Being ratings poison doesn’t help.
If you blame. Yes they deserve the blame
bucks are what created aew and it always felt like it was more about them. Even all in 2018 they hogged the main event spot. they even ran out of time
Ding ding ding the right answer
fr, Kenny was willing to bury the hatchet and work with Punk but they weren't.
AEW's whole identity was "WWE sucks, come watch us instead"
I'd say it was doomed to fail as soon as WWE started getting good again
Exactly. To think Paul Levesque's statement about being "not a sprint but a marathon" came out so true it turned into a mic drop of its own
Yep! After Vince left Tony can’t keep up with HHH and WWE. The company is now a failure and it all started after Cody Rhodes left and it got worse when they released the All In footage
It was always a being the elite vortex universe mode built off the youtube channel. The company is pretty much named after the faction
Once the evil Vince McMahon was gone, AEW had no identity. They had to get good. Instead AEW's identity is "For the Sickos."
Bingo!!! 😂 lol it was never good outside cm punk era & peak MJF
"this is a marathon not a one night sprint"
Look at where AEW is now.
Yeah look. More PPVs. More partnership. TV deal. Going to Max. Life's good, WWE is better but AEW is earning. Life's better for wrestlers.
@@themexicanwolverine You mean about to debut on MAX next month ? On their way to sell their first US Stadium show ?
Don't believe everything that your Twitter echo chamber tells you.
@@ITSHIM1294 They're still going in.
Australia is a tough sell, as WWE showed.
People saw the photos, man, don't even try to deny it.
AEW will never reach the colossal level of threat that WCW was to WWF.
Even TNA. TNA was able to draw 2 million viewers (before Dixie Carter came in).
@josecarlosramolete6109 True, but I mean Aew will NEVER reach that level of threat WCW had. WCW was beating WWFs ratings, they were beating their main show in viewers for 83 straight weeks.
Let's be real, they HAD the opportunity at their first year due to how hot and fresh they were (and Vince was still on his ultra senile mode), but Tony didn't capitalize it and instead he was slowly changing it into his personalized collect-all-wrestlers toy box and that was pretty much the end of the opportunity. Unlike his dad, Tony, unfortunately, isn't a really good businessman even when there's a gold mine standing in front of him.
@@kuncorotri5217Not really, the show was the most popular/successful during 2021-2023
@@phoenixfirebird4221 nice joke it's like someone saying WWE is the best company of 2024
What destroyed AEW?
The Bucks, Hangman and Tony. That’s who killed AEW.
Dave Meltzer too.
@@FranklinDBluth see living in your own delusion is good but you can't change the fact how Bucks made the tag team division relevant and Hangman helped cm junk getting thrown out of company also best feud & heel of the year in 2024 too.
@@Avg_Joe_001 lmao not even in the company 🤣🤣🤣
most importantly Dave Meltzer n all those hardcore fans who never criticized AEW!!
@@arnav_verma619 yeah so relevant that they can't even beat the developmental of WWE😂
keep coping buddy
The downfall started when Cody left that company
And now Cody is in his own downfall he failed as WWE champion that crowd started chanting him he deserves it etc.
Plus dropping the ball with jade cargill and cm punk plus the rey Fenix situation and that weird fued with mjf and Adam cole
@@arnav_verma619lmao, what a response, how old are you buddy?
@@ricardoman8018 jade Cargill is the worst wrestler ever! Even worse than Becky cringe & Seth Rollins imagine supporting her lmao and cm punk buried himself in AEW 💯
@@patoillumi 15th sep 2006
Booking show off of Dave Meltzer's forum fantasy booking will not appeal with general public, only with niche internet audience
Come on, Marko Stunt wasn't mainstream I ain't buying it he was "fun size"
Dave Meltzer is just a loser that can't get a job in mainstream wrestling company that only can do BS on the internet and worship by another big bunch of internet losers.
Sorry that is not for the "general audience", bro
Not everything produced on TV ever has to appeal to the "general audience", pipe down the entitlement and let fans enjoy what they want to enjoy.
@@YourProfessional-Gachagamer what a small echo chamber you’ve forced yourself into. Forcing yourself to justify a poorly run company.
@@Intheknow12 bro, you all want the approval of the "general public" in order to not be ridiculed for being Wrestling fans, this is why you all are crying about "muh casuals", not of a genuine enjoyment for your favorite Wrestling company, it's just optics.
Things that made me personally stopped watching
-Lost focus with roster. Everything felt interconnected early on
-Too many belts. Why is there a continental title and an international title?
-Dream matches for the sake of dream matches
-Jericho. Don't hate him but some time off would be nice
-Women's division is the worst it's ever been
-Too much use of blood. It loses it's impact when you see it on every show
-This one is a bit niche but getting rid of AEW Dark shows, we literally got 2 free shows weekly and got to see some talent grow like The Acclaimed
I hope it bounces back, AEW needs to exist so that other companies stay on their feets
How many belts does WWE have?
@@Bazookavich It's the participation award of our time.
feels like oprah tossing them out to make everyone feel good about their crappy careers.
I've never been a huge fan of wrestlers becoming managers of personalities or tag teams...but
Jericho is clearly better these days working the stick than in the ring.
He is one of the very very very few people in wrestling HISTORY who has the ability to be
equally as good at that aspect.
He'd have to want to change his approach (as all his personality now is for the purpose of engagement with HIM later)
but that's kind of his thing. Figuring out what the people want before they do.
@@Bazookavichenough for a good show.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I feel like if they get a better booker and get Tony off of social media, AEW could make some sort of comeback
For sure. They need to hire a creative team already to create good storylines. Wrestling is more than what goes on in the ring and AEW needs to understand that if they want to grow. Or in this case: survive.
100 %, but TK sadly will never step down.
I don't think you're wrong, its just that they won't do that.
AEW needs Shane McMahon as the face of the company
@gggmmm7204 And what changes that for the aew product? The product is bad, the booker has to change.
Cody Rhodes too had the biggest & most important role in the overall and successful organization of ALL IN, by both, financially and in terms of promoting it to the masses and fetching in so many great wrestlers. He's the one who revolutionized the wrestling in the latter half of last decade. Today, he is the biggest name in the world of pro wrestling.
After Cody left, AEW doesn't went sour. Heck they lost chance to use Nightmare Factory school.
Exactly. He was who lead the organization of the first All In, Bucks were like his EVPs in it-(something they might have become bitter about), TK joined after the PPV.
@@कृतार्थयादव but the fans turned on him bc he wouldn't go heel and do the homelander gimmick
the cheesiest and most obnoxious aspect in either brand is that fucking stupid cody rhodes angle.
his entire entrance is a pathetic circus of self promotion.
It ran out of steam a year ago....but wwe has a history of running shit 6 feet into the dirt before they even consider
changing up characters, storylines, gimmics, or anything else. The only thing sadder and more pathetic is the nightly routine
done by bianca bel air.
AEW needs storyline continuity, and they need to recognize and display their top stars who have previously won the world championship which are Chris Jericho, Adam Page, Jon Moxley, MJF, Samoa Joe and Swerve Strickland. Those are AEWs' top stars based on the decision of them being former world Champs in AEW and still being active. Tony Khan needs to keep it simple and not have complex storylines. Wrestling is simple. Everyone wants the belt to potentially create a lasting legacy. For the future stars they should have to go through those six to become a main eventer within AEW. Regardless of if they are an Ex wwe star or indy, they need to go through those six to be classified as a maineventer within AEW.
I love how the most constructive effort-present comment gets 4 likes and one sentence shit-posting gets 40 likes. Raise your bar, people.
@@kevinkthedj its not contructive when it completely misses the point and only puts the wwe fanboy fanboy of view, we dont want to be like wwe, if they need to change its stop hiring wwe fails and be more like new japan, aew exists because of dumb wwe storylines that make zero sense and a portion of the audience actually want wrestling,
@@Mintycomenter6000 This.... surprisingly makes good sense.
Especially that "Wrestling is simple" part. Perfection. Wrestling doesn't need to be the wannabe MCU, it doesn't have to pretend to be Emmy Award material..
*Wrestling Is Simple*
@@Mintycomenter6000 This.... surprisingly makes good sense.
Especially that "Wrestling is simple" part. Perfection. Wrestling doesn't need to be the wannabe MCU, it doesn't have to pretend to be Emmy Award material..
*Wrestling Is Simple*
“You could ask me anything, you could of asked me about AEW 😮”- Sami Zayn
Sammy Zayn's "pipebomb" moment
i have tried numerous times to get into aew.
every time they had some random wrestler just show up and is now in the mix of an angle. then excalibur or schivone expects me as a fan to be knowledgeable of the ongoings of the Santa Fe indie scene. im out.
Same people that mark out when they see a QR code for yet another failed Wyatt angle, btw.
You're only making an excuse, bro.
You're an adult (at least I do hope), you're more than capable of catching up by yourself, don't expect the show to hold your hand or feed you like a baby 🍼
@@YourProfessional-Gachagamer he’s not wrong though. How can you expect to attract a newer target audience and treat them like they’re just supposed to know automatically who the wrestlers are? That’s why they’ll always be a small wrestling promotion because it only targets a certain audience.
@@elikennedy6934 I mean, you can always try to pay attention to what the commentary team is saying, or looking up social media, there's helpful accounts that can help you get up to speed, but again, it takes two.
I see that Pro Wrestling seems to attract people who like to act like useless babies. Hell, you're using your fingers to type this comment above, might as well fire up Google and look who Wrestler A or B are, it's literally not hard.
@@elikennedy6934 which audience? Actual Pro Wrestling fans ? People who know how to use Google or social media?
Admitting to being useless babies isn't the flex you think it is, man.
there are three pivotal moments which killed aew's momentum.
cm punk's brawl out presser-he showed how the sausage was made. he showed there was no leadership. the leadership that was in place were indie jag offs who only had a indie mindset and only wanted to play with their friends.
cody rhodes' departure-he co-founded aew. he promised to take wrestling in a new direction. he wanted to revolutionize the entire industry. he was mr.aew. HE LEFT!!!
vince's ouster- the main drawing power of aew was it wasnt vince's stale, out of touch, poop joked filled, and very inconsistent wwe. Well that guy was given the boot. there is nothing aew can rebel against as the big bad boogy man was shown the door.
Completely agree, just couple Vince's ousting with Papa H taking control of creative. While he hasn't been perfect, for the most part, he's had some amazing stories and booking. He really exposed how out of touch Vince was and just how much Vince mishandled stories, characters and matches etc etc. Fans were tired of the ridiculous and whack stories and how their favorite wrestlers were booked. Triple H has completely turned that all the way around.
AEW loves bringing in talent no one outside of the internet wrestling community knows and acting like everyone should magically know who they are.
this is what happens when you book your show to please dave meltzer and not the casual audience
@@dnice712 The casual audience doesn't care about dudes yelling about MUH RATINGS or MUH ATTENDANCE on a daily basis, but here you are.
Back when WWE and WCW were rivals, WWE had to think of something new to stay ahead of the competition
And so, the Attitude Era came about. AEW has to think of something never been seen in the wrestling world to be noticed. They’re literally competing with a billion-dollar industry
The real reason why Attitude Era was inaugurated it was because WWE was able to see a LOOPHOLE on WCW: NWO storyline. NWO storyline got many WCW fans sick and tired of the same faction storyline over and over again. The straw that broke the camel's back was Sting joining NWO Wolfpac (red and black faction).
The fact Punk was willing to put his personal feelings aside and work with the Elite says a lot. Especially since they declined. It shows who put the product and good of the company before themselves and who didn't. Look at how great it has been with Punk in WWE. He has been a veteran and mentor for a lot of NXT talent and is apparently a model citizen backstage. The Elite put the Elite before AEW and they always have.
It amazed me watching Survivor Series and the following Raw that the way Punk was booked was a masterclass of what AEW could have done with him and the Elite. Money was there to be made and the Bucks blew it all away for their own petty egos.
As an AEW fan, Cody leaving was massive because it gave a sign on how things were backstage.
Also they did too many WWE references which got stale super quickly
TK is running a company that is the equivalent to 2010s WWE.
After Cody Rhodes left that was a huge sign AEW was headed towards its downfall. Once CM Punk came back to WWE and exposed AEW that’s when things completely fell apart. AEW will ever recover from the All In backstage footage. Tony should’ve just ignored CM Punk when he did that interview but he decided to act like a child and cry about it saying “my life was in danger”
B rate roster and storylines that disappear or make little to no sense
Disagree about the roster. They literally have a best roster in any wrestling promotion. They just suck at creating new storyline (from past 2 years atleast)
I strongly criticize Tony's booking but I don't think that they have a bad roster. IMO AEW has a lot of the best wrestlers under contract. Tony just has no idea what to do with them. RoH for example is filled with great talent who are breaking their bodies in front of no audience.
Give me the top 15 wrestlers in the aew roster and ill tell you how they don't have the best roster@BollyToHolly
@@BollyToHolly roster is good but to many people are the same.
It's always been indie show to me atleast that was it sold to me when watching it.
It’s an Indie WWE
They tried putting Toni Storms return match against the whole of Saturday Nights Main Event.
Toni was on top of the fucking globe, but in her absence everyone saw just how god awful Tony is at booking and checked out.
Despite all the ex-WWE guys he’s been buying up, people aren’t interested because the audience knows they’ll never hit the highs they should if they aren’t friends with Hogan and the rest of the NWO- I mean The Young Bucks and The Elite.
Toni like MJF and Swerve Strickland should be instant ratings but are the golden sails on a sinking ship
I would argue that most of the problems caused by the Elite where simply just Matt and Nick + Adam Page talking shit.
I really don't believe Kenny is likely to do any of that stuff, besides he was mostly injured and out during most of the drama after the All Out Brawl.
Kenny buried the hatchet with Punk in private. Says a lot if he couldn't convince the Bucks to do the same for the good of the company.
There are a lot of reasons, but for me, they constantly push people who are not over. Hook, Yuta, Ishii...etc.
I swear I see a new raise and fall mini doc of aew every week
Hating on AEW gets clicks, you see ?
The thing that the WWE has drawn back the lost fans and chunks of audience, is not any speculation but straight, visual and obvious fact.
@@कृतार्थयादव and then you look at their ratings.
Oh sorry, we only can focus on AEW's, right ? We never talk about WWE really not growing as much as you all pretend it is...
@YourProfessional-Gachagamer 👏🏽👏🏽 they talk about a "boom period" boom period, my ass lol they constantly lie about that, and their fans eat it up and parrot everything they hear because they can't think for themselves
I would get a booker. A professional, seasoned, successful booker, to run the company. Khan can be the owner, no problem. But having him as the owner/booker is like being the manager and also playing center field and batting 4th. You need someone disconnected from the money and the stigma that Tony carries.
Lock up MJF for life, and establish a long-term relationship with Japanese promotions.
There are two types of AEW haters: 1) they think aew is currently bad but want it to succeed 2) they think aew is currently bad but want aew to fail.
I think it can be a competitor again but Tony needs to hire actual creative/executive teams and stop treating the promotion like it’s a toy and be a leader.
@StoneOcean24 ya, but it is a toy to him and always will be.
I can't believe AEW still havent done a brand split. Their roster is way too big and they have 2 one hour shows nobody cares about in Rampage and Collision. Combine those 2 shows into one show with an official brand split with its own champions and storylines.
AEW is where the best wrestle and wrestle!
Especially inside the locker room!
No doubt 💯
Only bad times it gone through was All out 2022-Revolution 2023
@@arnav_verma619a typical aew fan. Lol, you dont see the hidden meaning
Tiny Kahn only learned from watching WCW and ECW. Can you tell?
Nah, he also watched NJPW, All Japan, and various territories that were available through tape trading. I disagree with the limitations you placed on his "research", but I'm stealing the nickname. It's perfect.
Tony Khan doomed AEW by deciding to be the booker and take advice from Dave Meltzer.
There will be a day when Triple H show up on AEW, get into the ring and said, "Game over. The fate of AEW is in my hands."
@@dvd2909 only if he wants to be as cringe as you all are by imagining something like this.
Bro, you're a grown adult, act like one.
He has no money to buy it. The Khans are filthy rich. You can continue dreaming and foaming at the mouth about it
@@YourProfessional-Gachagameryup, he wont buy that dump
Straight out of Vince's playbook and I'd be here for it. Don't think that's his style tho, as a former wrestler he probably wouldn't want to show the whole company up like that
@@lookingforlove839 You sound salty af 🤣 stay upset
Losing Cody and Punk, who are now the two biggest stars in WWE was a death blow.
Here is what AEW needs to do: Take the book from Tony Khan. Remove any executive status from any active wrestlers backstage. Rehire CM Punks ex best friend CM Punk
Instead of signing laid-off WWE wrestlers, AEW should actively poach WWE's camera/lighting/editing team. It's not just the wrestler and booker who makes a great wrestling TV show you know!
This is what happens when you book for 1 person. Regular people don't even know who Meltzer is or his imaginary rating system.
One problem i have notice with aew is that when a wrestler is getting a push we dont see them again for weeks on end like hook and certain storylines just get dropped and we never hear it again like the adam cole turning heel and mjf turning face. They dont know how to make new stars
Triple h made it a bloodbath. Even the debut of AEW wasn't even close to a single episode of SmackDown under triple h. The tribal Chief storyline, Drew McIntyre versus CM punk, liv Morgan vs reah Ripley . They haven't even played their trump card of the rock vs Roman reigns. They turned Rey Mysterio son into the greatest heel of all time. He literally can't get a single word out in any promo. Don't get me wrong CM punk versus MJF was huge but it wasn't even close to the level of Cody Rhodes versus the bloodline that ended in a 2-day WrestleMania extravaganza.
They're so stacked right now they just took two of their top stars jade and Bianca Bel Air and put them in a tag team with no real direction and they're still killing it way more than any of the females in AEW. And you have to think WWE in their female division has two Hall of famers on the sidelines right now . Becky Lynch and Charlotte flair.
I mean it's going to be at least a year before AW could get there feet below them again. They're just not going to beat John Cena's retirement year extravaganza. Just the idea of all the different stars that John Cena could make over the next year. All the different matches in his retirement year and the fact that he still could win the WWE championship and surpass Ric flair. Until Tony Khan gets his head out of his fourth point of contact I think he's going to be buried below WWE for quite some time
Pros:
- Solid roster
Cons:
- Inconsistent storylines/no pay off
- Sporadic appearances by wrestlers. Can't build a Stone Cold Steve Austin if they only show up every other week.
- PPV cost
- Too much creative freedom. It's similar to having a movie with a lineup of A-list actors and a very loose storyline that's mostly dependent on improv. You might see a wide range of acting ability, but it's not going to make sense in the overall scheme of things.
- TK needs to stop pulling McMahon moves. If AEW isn't going to use a wrestler, and that wrestler wants to leave, let them go. It's obviously bad for the wrestlers, but it's also bad for the industry at large. Wasting someone's potential because you're petty isn't a good look.
- Too many belts. Scarcity provides value.
Future improvements:
- Cheaper PPVs
- HBO Max deal
- The return of Kenny Omega
Man, I would never seen this topic from WrestleTalk, would I?
I think their version is called who killed whoever. And they like AEW, they wont burry AEW like that 😂
Yeah I guess they won't even think about it too. They are loyal to their favorite promotion AEW now.
The Rise was because of Cody entering, the fall was because of Cody leaving
@@vonnblagaming984 LMAOOOOOOO bro, you all glaze that guy like crazy, stop it.
AEW is still amazing :) Been watching it since day 1 and will continue to do so until the end :)
Santana and Ortiz never being the AEW tag-team champions still makes me angry.
When Tony took the reigns from Cody is when the quality started to tank.
Kenny Omega choosing to go to New Japan while AEW ratings are collapsing in freefall is very telling.
@@wiggyirl It's called doing good relationship with your partner companies.
What high caliber Wrestler did WWE send to TNA ?
@@YourProfessional-Gachagamer If I have 5 dollars and i give 4 dollars to my friend that makes me an idiot not a good friend.
@@wiggyirlOops, you couldn't even answer the question
@@wiggyirl selfishness.
Add it to the list of awful traits of the W(WE)restling fan on social media. Goes well with Ignorance and Closed Mind.
@@Morganj27 They didn't.
If WWE would've done that, TNA wouldn't have reached their lowest TV rating (for a Wrestling company) on record.
"But AEW", am I right?
Cant wait to see the dark side of the ring the downfall of aew in a couple of years
Bot
I feel bad for the workers & wrestlers losing their jobs though....TNA now releasing some of their wrestlers in the name of budget cut........AEW need to think and book differently rather than shutting down and don't let the WWE to play monopoly again , we can clearly see the difference in WWE before and after AEW, AEW was a catalyst for WWE
Too many storylines that stall out, and too many things like the Young Bucks heel authority gimmick look like they came from early 2010s WWE. Also with all of the backstage attacks hospitalization, literal robbery, arson and murder fakeout you train the audience not to really pay attention to everything because "it's just a wrestling angle" and you can't suspend disbelief.
AEW died the day Cm Punk left
If Tony Khan cannot salvage AEW, 2 things likely to happen (IMO):
1. TK needs to step down as a booker
2. TNA should purchase AEW
Are you serious bro?
😂😂😂
Aew got a hbo max deal compared to tna
Lmfao what? TNA already has it’s own problems coming soon 😂
@@mattpryokra2245 their biggest mistake was working with wwe and letting their talents get poached.
@@HighWoody No one was poached. WWE is many wrestlers' goal. Everyone knows Jordyn Grace will end up in WWE. It gave TNA some much needed exposure and for the fans, matches they never would have seen otherwise. It was far from a mistake.
I don’t like how the editor uses clips that anachronistically don’t match up to what is being explained.
TK is only responsible for the fall of his company
Nice joke it's like someone saying WWE is the best company
@@arnav_verma619 they are
@@arnav_verma619 It is the best wrestling company right now. Keep coping lmao.
@arnav_verma619 Always been bud legit facts
"This video has made me fear for my life." - Tony Khan
Did it make you fear taking a shower?
If I was in charge of AEW……#1 priority: Hire Bully Ray to run creative. #2 Fire every current wrestler from EVP positions. #3 Replace Excalibur.
AEW would be closed tomorrow with those goofy ideas. You guys have absolutely know idea what you're talking about. You would really hire a bum like Bully Ray who put the idea out there that Mox should include a domestic violence angle for his Death Riders character? You guys are slow af. Nothing but a bunch of weirdos
I'd just shut it down and realize the money I spent was used doing a service to the world as a whole.
@@Morganj27as opposed to what? A sea of bland wrestlers? Ill pick the domestic abuse
Excalibur and Schiavone are just straight-up jarring.
Triple H starting Raw one day saying he 'bought his competition' and how the 'fate of AEW is in his hands' in a few years would be.. sad yet funnily poetic.
Aew is not going anywhere they will be around for a long while
Doesn't mean it's going to get better
A lot of their feuds are one-and-done. Literally after having a championship on a PPV, each competitor move on to something new. They're not letting their shit breathe.
It's not Rise and fall, it's fall and free fall of aew
Free fall is too nice of a word.
CM Punk is the only wrestler to draw in ROH, AEW, WWE, UFC, TNA, AND ECW
AEW only worked when Cody influenced the booking.
This was way too nice to aew, especially early aew. It was really bad, they just had hype from signing a huge tv deal. Then they spammed their worst talent that had go away heat, not actual heat until now we're in the 500ks. Britt Baker was maybe the 9th best woman on the roster, bad on the mic and bad in ring and she got ALL of the women's promo time for 3 entire years. The bucks were like 2 Britt bakers every time they got air time it drug the ratings down. Cody was awful because he wouldn't do anything but a hero role, giving cringe workshopped apology promos when he finally booked himself to lose a match. I could go on and on and I didn't even touch orange cassidy or the baby flipping circus show "wrestlers", the burying of wardlow when he was over, ruining the CM punk bump, etc.. Tony Khan thought more of the same was the path to greatness but it turned out it was the path to 500k viewers on their flagship program.
As per Undertaker said at Smackdown vs RAW 2007 season mode, *"You got no one to blame but yourself"* + as per Snitsky said during his days on WWE, "It Wasn't My Fault"* because it's mostly Tony's own fault when he knows that he's the one who need to blame when his Wrestling Promotions goes bankruptcy. It's suck for them when all of them realise that AEW Dynamite constantly being beaten by WWE's Development Brands in terms of everything
wasn't that the "if you insist on making this mistake, then your grieving family will have no one else to blame but you when the inevetable occurs" segment?
@SirHRDking yes, that's the one but I forgot about the exact line when I'm making this comment
AEW have very good roster but the problem is, they are focused on wwe rather than themselves
What about punk every time mentioning AEW to be relevant in WWE?
@@arnav_verma619 Yeah bro Punk isn't my favorite either but there is a difference between 1 wrestler and a whole damn company.
@@HarshilTHEHASEMPIREAnand what about Triple L mentioning Ospreay without reason before WM and that one joker Gay son Waller I think
@@arnav_verma619 WWE mentioned AEW like 5 times, one directly and couple insider jokes, AEW on the other hand had periods where they had to take open shots at WWE multiple times per show.
Triple H didn't even mention Ospreay, he just said some people aren't willing to put on grind to work in WWE.
AEW put their whole identity on “being better than WWE”. And then WWE got better, so what the hell is their identity now?
The answer is “Khan becoming Vince McMahon 2.0.”
I'm surprised a wrestling media brand is doing a video like this, they're literally content for you guys
No. The Jericho/MJF musical number was not iconic or charismatic. It was cringe. And embarrassing. Stop it.
Neither was the debut of the inner circle it seemed never ending
It started with the Bucks "Victory lap" after CM Punk left. And it's been going downhill ever since. Because that also coincided with WWE's improvement and then a few months later it's return to boom period.
Timeout Kenny did a interview some months back and said him and punk been on good terms and was down to do a storyline but it was the bucks and hangman that didn't
Punk was all about business, and Kenny understood that.
@DudleyDawg excalty why Jim respects Kenny more then the bucks now cause Kenny showed he knew this was a money maker
The thing is tony said aew would be the alternative to wwe, but it felt like a cheaper version of the wwe
One of the biggest problems of AEW is consistency. The only thing they consistently do is put on the same kind of match. Nothing stands out.
They let their biggest star go. They keep putting the belt on bootleg Sandman and pretend he is the next Stone Cold. Jericho keeps making new factions without building anyone off of them.
What’s wrong with AEW… it’s boring there. Too much fricken wrestling, I mean don’t get me wrong I love wrestling but it’s like loving pizza, if you eat it everyday it eventually gets boring too.
Then you don't. Simple as that.
I fully expect Moxley's "Deathriders" (just seeing that name makes me cringe like I read a page out of my 8th grade journal) to be either the new NWO, in that they won't go away until it's too late, or the Moxley version of Evolution, in that he will run roughshod over them too until he eventually is forced to put one of them over...
Dont let wrestlers run a company, cuz they have massive egos, get proper booker, promoter. You have to have balls to be a boss, have to understant that you cant please everyone and be everyones friend.. Ofcourse a lot of downfall was influenced by zVince leaving wwe and product getting way better for them
FOR ME EVERY WRESTLING COMPANIES ARE PHENOMENAL OKAY? CHANGE MY MIND BUT I ALWAYS RESPECTED EVERYONE’S OPINION
The type of dude to say '"I enjoy all wrestling" 🤓
@ YES EXACTLY BUT FROM OCTOBER 1996 UNTIL DECEMBER 2024 I FAILED MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY BUT FROM JANUARY 2025 ONWARDS FOR THE FIRST AND LAST TIME I WILL DRASTICALLY CHANGE MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY AND YOU CAN BELIEVE OR NOT RESPECT MY OPINIONS OR NOT FAIR ENOUGH. NOW WORDS FLIES AND FACTS STAYS GOODBYE.
The company is still going strong? This is the TNA hysteria all over again.
Better booking mainly. And they need to pick their top stars better. The guys that look like they'd be threats to the top WWE stars are hidden while much smaller, less charismatic guys like Yuta, Garcia, Cassidy, and Perry take up all the screen time. The only small guy in AEW that's believable as a top star is Darby and that's because he's equal parts Jeff Hardy, Rey Mysterio, and Mick Foley. He legitimately has something special right now and they're squandering it. The other guys need about 5-10 more years of ring, promo, and character work and at least 50 more pounds to be in the positions they're currently in. Watching Orange Cassidy the world beater run through half the roster undefeated when he looks like the guy selling me my Insignia TV at Best Buy is not a good look for him, the talent putting him over, or AEW as a whole. Orange Cassidy is not believable and he only would be if AEW were based inside of an anime. That's the only way he should be knocking guys out with his power of friendship punch.
The counterpoint to that is didn't Moxley get publicly beat by a burger flipper 50 pounds lighter than him at the bjj white belt level? The bigger tougher looking guy isn't always going to be the guy that wins in a real fight. People know that, so why think it should apply to a predetermined match when it doesn't apply in real life?
Yes, the booking needs to be better, but trying to push guys that weren't already WWE stars isn't the problem. Inconsistent booking and stories that go nowhere or are dropped with no explanation is.
@@FailedBard It just needs to be guys more believable than Yuta, Garcia, Cassidy, and Perry. I gave Darby as an example already, he's basically a human missle that believably punches above his pay grade. Another is Jay White. The ideal would be Malakai Black. He's not the biggest guy but he's lean and looks like a fighter same with Hook. Out of the pack I listed, Yuta and Garcia have some potential, but Perry and OC are almost lost causes at this point without major character work, psychology changes or about 30 more pounds of muscle at least and even then they shouldn't be used when you have a perfectly good Pac, Buddy Matthews, and Claudio in the mix. These guys already have the look and star power.
The MJF/ Adam Cole storyline will go down as the rivalry that killed aew.
You have your facts a bit wrong. CM Punk appeared and came to AEW before Bryan Danielson did, not the other way around as you made it seem.
While I don't believe it's impossible for them to improve, it's essential for them to take action, as the issues are undeniably significant. As an All Elite Wrestling fan, I feel these concerns must not be overlooked.
WWE>>>AEW
A basket of fruit > AEW
In terms of boreness 💯💯💯
Even WWE fans will agree to this
@arnav_verma619 Every single WWE fan I know dropped AEW years ago, and despite trying still can't be bothered to try seeing the same problems
@@bashamd96 ok obsessed guy lol
@@bashamd96who doesn't love fruit?
I wonder if there will be an up charge for PPV events on MAX or if it will be included at the higher tiers.
AEW at this point almost feels like a placeholder for wrestlers who want to get signed to wwe or reinvent themselves to get signed to wwe
In an ideal world if I could make changes without any push back I would cut the roster down by over half. Get rid of every show not named Dynamite. Keep ROH as a developmental brand. Condense all the belts to give more continuity and start working out how to properly structure a show. Exciting opener. Important middle segment. Build towards the main event. Cut PPVs back down to 5/6 a year and run Battle of the Belts in the months that don’t have PPVs and actually promote them and that’s not even considering how I’d change the booking.
Aww still in the delulu land? 😂 AEW is thriving you marks
Orange Cassidy is a parody of a main eventer and yet Tony chooses to push him as a actual star.
As far as North America is concerned, WWE is wrestling, and nothing else will ever change that or matter. The Kahns should just cut their losses now and shut down and sell everything to WWE so it can be archived, never to be spoken of again.
AEW's "problem" is that it is selling the same product that the WWE is, except they're 50 years and 50 years behind, worth of established contracts with companies and countries.
The marsthon part isnt a lie considering how things are now.
AEW had the potential but they couldn’t see pass their success when the failures at the time needed changes. As an example… if the Brit/Big Swole issue actually got handled, maybe we never get Punk vs McIntyre in the 2024 feud of the year.
The Punk footage killed them. Ratings crashed once they saw the footage and realised Khan had no reason to fire him. Tony Khan lost whatever goodwill he had with fans that night.
That footage would have come out at some point anyway. Without the footage, AEW's smear campaign against Punk bordered on defamation, and I expected there to be litigation against AEW in the near future. However, after the footage came out, the Punker was vindicated and he no longer needed to defend himself. It was all out there.
I get the feeling TNA never cared about competing with WWE and just got on with it, AEW on the other hand couldn’t help themselves
This is an AEW fluff piece.
What's insane to me is that AEW beat WWE's DEVELOPMENTAL 3rd brand and everyone thought AEW had a chance...
Tony Khan needs to hire a real booker and double down and limit all the false finishes, protect talents finishers. provide more investment in long term story booking
25:21 Ahhhh yes, I was one of those 800k curious about the footage. I loved it, felt like watching Russo TNA again for one night only
You're talking like it's already over really?
The ratings have dropped so much that its now basically at the same level as TNA/Impact. Its over.
1. Let go of anyone. And wait 3 months later.
2. Run small arena.
So funny because the fans and media actually thought that AEW was going to be huge. When in fact, they ruined themselves in the end. All that hype and here we are 5 years later. Low ratings, low attendance and consistent backstage drama
AEW was great at the start, and if it wasn't for AEW we wouldn't have the huge change in WWE.