Lots of unnecessary wheelspin on the 2WD. For no reason. Just digging in. Should have learned from the 4WD version. Which is what absolutely max wheelspin should ever be allowed to be in a situation like this. But I know many, many cars are far worse.
@@martinsvensson6884 Agreed on all counts. Lessons learnt could definitely be applied and lets hope they will be addressed for future models and software upgrades for existing models. Did you notice the after effect noise for the 2wd at 0:44 like a spring unwinding? Allgrip gets you out of being mildly stuck with elegance and dignity while furiously computing unseen actions to take in the powertrain.
@@martinsvensson6884 in my experience (Vitara LY 1.4T) Allgrip makes a huge difference in slippery highway conditions, to the extent I have to often remind my self to slow down and drive to the conditions for stopping distance. But I am happy with the vids on this channel because they mostly highlight the differences in starting off from a stopped position, which is common to all our journeys. The slippery surface vids are a bonus - if you have not already seen them.
@@martinsvensson6884 Yes, 'max wheelspin' can result in an axle breaking *moment* once 100% traction is suddenly achieved. (I am sure there is a physics joke in that somewhere)
In a situation where all 4 wheels are spinning but not on rollers on mud, ice or gravel with some small level of traction/grip (in the real world) wouldn't the AllGrip preform a lot better and possibly not get stuck in a situation where the 2WD would get stuck ?
@@Hautes-Alpes_05 Don't get me wrong but if 2WD and all season tires are enough for you then you don't drive in really difficult conditions. That comes directly from physics.
@@Hautes-Alpes_05 Good trolling :-) I had problems in snow with AWD (SX4) and 22% of slope (some curvy uphill) ,winter tires and you claim hitting high slopes (45% ?) with FWD and all season? HOW? By using winch? Besides, just watch some offroad channels (like polish Terenwizja) what happens when one of axles break, and how far they are able to drive with. You also overestimate driver importance and even if you are professional car driver as you claim, you won't be able to go as far with FWD as amateur driving Raptor or Bronco.
Well, second test is not so relevant as the 2WD has no traction on the rear anyway, so it's basically same test as the first with just few more resistance on the rear. I would put two rollers on front axle to see if it can find a bit of traction to move on (very difficult for a 2WD but that's the common ice or hardened snow hill scenario)
It was the point of the second test to create the same conditions for both cars. Two rollers at front for FWD would be pointless, it's obvious it wouldn't move.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollersonly obvious for people with brain cells, blond Tiffany who knows nothing about cars might not understand without seeing it for herself.
Napęd na tył pobierany jest z kosza przedniego dyfra, więc od strony mechanicznej nic by się nie zmieniło. Natomiast co na to komputer to inna sprawa, nie wiem 🙂
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Both do the job. Excellent video showing the difference between 2wd ESP and 4wd Allgrip.
Lots of unnecessary wheelspin on the 2WD. For no reason. Just digging in.
Should have learned from the 4WD version. Which is what absolutely max wheelspin should ever be allowed to be in a situation like this.
But I know many, many cars are far worse.
@@martinsvensson6884 Agreed on all counts. Lessons learnt could definitely be applied and lets hope they will be addressed for future models and software upgrades for existing models. Did you notice the after effect noise for the 2wd at 0:44 like a spring unwinding? Allgrip gets you out of being mildly stuck with elegance and dignity while furiously computing unseen actions to take in the powertrain.
@@martinsvensson6884 in my experience (Vitara LY 1.4T) Allgrip makes a huge difference in slippery highway conditions, to the extent I have to often remind my self to slow down and drive to the conditions for stopping distance. But I am happy with the vids on this channel because they mostly highlight the differences in starting off from a stopped position, which is common to all our journeys. The slippery surface vids are a bonus - if you have not already seen them.
@@martinsvensson6884 Yes, 'max wheelspin' can result in an axle breaking *moment* once 100% traction is suddenly achieved. (I am sure there is a physics joke in that somewhere)
In a situation where all 4 wheels are spinning but not on rollers on mud, ice or gravel with some small level of traction/grip (in the real world) wouldn't the AllGrip preform a lot better and possibly not get stuck in a situation where the 2WD would get stuck ?
Of course, 2WD could get stuck in situations where All Grip wouldn't even notice a grip problem.
0:44 listening to the windup spring release
For as fair as possible comparison, You could take one more test - both cars on 3 rollers.
Allgrip it's a gadget 👍👍 Thank you for demonstrating that 4-wheel drive is no longer essential 👍👍
That depends where you drive.
@@Hautes-Alpes_05 Don't get me wrong but if 2WD and all season tires are enough for you then you don't drive in really difficult conditions. That comes directly from physics.
@@Hautes-Alpes_05 Good trolling :-) I had problems in snow with AWD (SX4) and 22% of slope (some curvy uphill) ,winter tires and you claim hitting high slopes (45% ?) with FWD and all season? HOW? By using winch? Besides, just watch some offroad channels (like polish Terenwizja) what happens when one of axles break, and how far they are able to drive with. You also overestimate driver importance and even if you are professional car driver as you claim, you won't be able to go as far with FWD as amateur driving Raptor or Bronco.
@@Hautes-Alpes_05 That depends which wheels don't have grip... If we find Sandero Stepway, we will test it.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers thank you so much 💪💪💪💪
czekam na terenówkę :)
Check this : th-cam.com/video/7HMQ27QYLg4/w-d-xo.html
Very impressive for 2WD car.
Interesting test. Will you test Vitara diesel AllGrip?
Thanks. We do not plan to test diesel but it wouldn't be different from petrol.
If the allgrip car were metallic greyish ice blue instead of red it would be perfect :-)
Well, second test is not so relevant as the 2WD has no traction on the rear anyway, so it's basically same test as the first with just few more resistance on the rear. I would put two rollers on front axle to see if it can find a bit of traction to move on (very difficult for a 2WD but that's the common ice or hardened snow hill scenario)
It was the point of the second test to create the same conditions for both cars. Two rollers at front for FWD would be pointless, it's obvious it wouldn't move.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollersonly obvious for people with brain cells, blond Tiffany who knows nothing about cars might not understand without seeing it for herself.
Jak by się AllGrip zachował w przypadku urwania przegubu z przodu? Dałby radę napędzać tylne koła? Czy zgłosiłby błąd i laweta?
Napęd na tył pobierany jest z kosza przedniego dyfra, więc od strony mechanicznej nic by się nie zmieniło. Natomiast co na to komputer to inna sprawa, nie wiem 🙂