Everyone Hates Rust! Use These Techniques To Make Your Life Easier!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
- Rust sucks! We are in the South and don't have to deal with rust nearly as much as some of you, but when we do it can really be frustrating. So we knew we had to do something to make things a bit easier. These tools and techniques used in this video have made a massive difference for us when tackling vehicles that are full of rust. You'll see how to effectively get bolts off without damaging threads. This by itself can save you hours of heartache! If this video saves a few hours of work for one person then it completely worth it! Hope it helps. Enjoy!
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Northern guy here. We'd call that a 1 year old vehicle as far as rust goes.
Rust? What rust?
Would you still go about it the same way? With more rust on the nuts that is.
@@chipkapowski1781 I soak it with Liquid Wrench 24 hours before I intend to work on it.
lol it’s funny what southerns consider rust.
That still is identifiable as a nut. No rust found😂
Eric of South Main Auto is the Jedi of rust.
I was gonna say, I seen eric use this tool yrs ago and now ppl are just now using this as a rust method
Yep the No Mercy Reversy!!
Yes, Eris is a master when it comes to removing/cutting rusted hardware with the cutting torch.
You need to do multiple heat cool cycles to get the tough ones off
Spray it with cold water between heat cycles. Wisconsin guy here.
Few tricks from up north. Spray with wd, tighten a bit, loosen. Repeat. Tap with hammer.
"pretty rusty" is when there is no discernable nut and the stud has been reduced to a pointy little spike of metal.
I've been screaming at everyone to use induction heat and this is the first time I've seen it happen. Good for you.
That air hammer is called "BIG NASTY". It's SICK! Get it 100% but but the induction heater first!!
Lol, every tech I hired from all the sunny states, don't survive in Buffalo NY. 2-3 year old cars here isn't uncommon to use a heat. Around here here can get exhaust studs off that look like toothpicks. Enjoy your videos.
I bought my Mini Ductor Venom once catalytic converters started getting stolen. Paid for itself on the second job. It’s a must-own tool here in southwest Ohio.
Another great video, as a 40 year master mechanic here in Pismo Beach California I deal with very little rust but that Mini Ductor is a tool that I’ve never heard of before. Thank you guys.
But what’s with all the ponytails and bracelets, I don’t even see that here in California. That’s cool. Embrace whatever? I will add that Sherwood is a class act mechanic and that’s very rare.
That induction heater is great, I've not seen one before. Great to see a pro recommending patience and doing it right the first time instead of just thinking about getting it off as fast as possible no matter what.
Nice May I suggest using the air hammer bit first before the chisel bit I agree using heat like you did Big nasty with the Venom are a help CHEERS
Northern guy here! That's a walk in the park. Oxy acetylene all the way. Not much luck with those inductor thingys. I'm usually not a negative Nancy.... but... banging on the exhaust with a hammer that close to a converter will be a for sure check engine light in the near future. Job security I suppose. But not in my shop! Love some of your videos. Diag videos mostly. Stick with that.
Not usually a negative Nancy?? I find that hard to believe!! I saw some of your other comments you're negative Nancy most of the time. You do know most of the US isn't in the rust belt and needs to know how to deal with this kind of rust. Their insurance doesn't allow all of them to use oxyacetylene! Sherman is trying to lift up our industry so don't drag it down being Debbie downer
Also holt the chisel flat with the flange at the base of the nut.....tric is to break the bond between the flange and the nut
Michigander here, unfortunately for us we don’t do the rust premium for labor time, we use straight book time I think in my 11 years of being a tech I have charged more for labor because of rust one time for a dodge caliber cradle job. I am jealous
Banging on good sockets and extensions are not going to hurt them those coil heaters are good to have
that’s a beautiful turbo blue A5 Sportback in the background
Thanks for another good lesson in patience Professor
Get a squeeze bottle (old dishwasher detergent bottle works great) and fill it with tap water and place near work area. Heat the nut up until it is cherry red - the stud will usually be close to the same temperature. Set heating unit or torch aside so you don't hit it with the water. Quench by spraying the nut and stud area while still cherry red with the water in the squeeze bottle to cool the area quickly - warning - be prepared for the cloud of very hot steam that will be produced! Let sit for 15 seconds and then drive on socket and try turning with impact or ratchet / swing bar -odds are the nut will start to turn and continue to turn off the threaded stud. The advantage using this method is that the stud and nut usually only need to be heated once and when you spray the area with the cold water any rust / scale will flash off and be removed from the threads during the quick cooling process. When you now attempt to remove the now cooled nut the stud threads are not cherry red hot so this lessens the chance of the stud twisting in its red almost molten state. Also when you spray a lubricant on the cooled threads it does not immediately disappear in a cloud of hot vapour and smoke which basically wastes the lubricant. Just a suggestion that usually works to remove rusted / seized nuts, studs etc. and allow the original threads to be saved As others have stated what you are calling rust is not what I would call rust that would be seen in the salt belt areas.
I've got one of the cheap Amazon induction heaters and it has worked well on my cars up here in the northeast. If I owned a shop, I'd invest in the Venom, but for home use, the cheap one does the trick.
That heating tool is amazing!
I love the Venom induction heater (they have a newer "HP" one with green trim on it instead of blue that has even more power :) ). I live and work in the rust belt of southwestern Ontario Canada, and those Mini-Ductors are amazing for freeing up bolts in areas you cannot or do not want to have an open flame.
I have been a tech for over 19 years and every shop I worked at used torches (or as I always called them, the "Flame Drive Plus wrench" LOL :P ). I wish I would have discovered the induction heaters a lot sooner because for a lot of applications they are so much nicer, easier and quicker than rolling out the torch cart.
if this came into my bay working in canada, it would be a lucky day working on a car so clean. i wouldn't even use heat on that. its coming off no problem with a 1/2" impact.
Great tips! I'm dealing with a rusty nightmare right now.
How dare you not address that air hammer by its proper name. If its the 498k, not the 4980, its official name is Thor. But Eric O has coined the name Big Nasty. FWIW, it uses a .498" shank compared to 99% of other air hammers that use the standard .401" shank.
The method used is the classic way to remove rusty nuts if you have the time and don't want to break out the torch. Tapping on the socket is just what you have to do. Sometimes it helps to alternately try tightening and loosening the nut. Anything to induce vibration and break the bond. Kroil is the best penetrating solvent I know of. That and fluid film are two garage essentials.
Great video, guys! Any lesson around the shop is appreciated! Keeping my fingers crossed for the 100k prize! Really want to get into using a scope more because of the videos you guys have made using it and showing how helpful it is.
I have had a mini ductor for a decade. Have to have here in Omaha. Also twist sockets for damaged nut removal. Snap on version are the best I have used.
Awesome learned something today.
Cold shock is another technique. Chilli red then throw cold water.
Great 👍🏼 content / topic / video ! Please continue to let us in on everything you have learned in the trade . Much appreciated !
Nacho brings the heat !!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us! I enjoyed learning from you.
thanks for sharing i am in alabama much like you when comes to rust i use Marvel Mystery oil and acitone seems to work great
GET THE VENOM HP!
This thing is SO expensive and I'm telling you it's worth EVERY SINGLE PENNY!!!
In one year of owning it, it probably saved me easily 8 hours of aggravation dealing with Rusty Fasteners and oxygen sensors.
Washing your undercarriage, engine, and suspension components or anything exposed to salt will drastically reduce this. Live in NJ.
Great video ! Never seen that inductor before, great find !!
Gonna be pricy in $C , but what an excellent tool.
Anything to not bring the torch out ,,
Thanks
Eric O would just weld in new flex pipes from NAPA and save those pipes.
Another great video.....
you are realy master good job
Rusty bolts 🥰
Was wondering if you were going to chime in! Great to see the automotive community supporting each other
Apparently we need to go watch some more of your videos because we are way out of the loop on this one. 😬😅
@@theroyaltyautoservice rust is my love language 😅 I think you did a fine job 👍🏼
@@theroyaltyautoservice rust is my love language 😅 I think you did a fine job 👍🏼
Ha that's not rust
Rusty bolts are a nightmare
Step one, reject all rusty vehicles! Texas boy here, we would lose our mind if we had to deal with that.
Question for yall rust wranglers knowing a simple brake job can go south real quick do yall charge flat rate or “this is our labor rate and we are done when we are done”?
Michigan guy here. At the ahop I work at, we typically give quotes that are worst case scenario situations. Example- Rusted out jeep wrangler needs front axle u joints? Tell customer they have to be prepared to maybe buy new front hub bearings and bolts in the event that the bolts break and/or are way too rusted to try to fit a 12 point socket onto.
@@lukeshoemaker9061 i swear nothing is worse than those rusty jeeps and those 12 point bearing bolts.
Texans can't handle much of anything that isn't easy going, warm weather, clear flat roads, and boring geography.
Ford Tech Makuloco posted a pic recently and tagged South Main Auto because maaaaaan, that rust was 100% involved and in giant flakes.
One wonders if they considered using a pneumatic bolt breaker.
That sound you hear is Eric O rolling on the ground laughing.
I've done stuff like that too but the best advice I can give anyone is more heat is never a bad thing if it's orange it's enough I like to use a socket when I can but those rounded nut extractors are the shit for exhaust work after the socket didn't do it or slipped.. moral of the story alot of heat and a little finesse. I'm from Eastern Canada and it's a good day too see a 6 point nut still be a six point lol
I had a question in my mind why not use a ratchet to back the nuts off after heating. A minute later it was explained and answered.
Excellent video as always.
Slowly getting closer to 100k 🤠
Northern canada guy here. 1)cut off bolt/stud flush with housing with cutoff wheel. 2 air hammer out other side. 3) grind rust of entire are. 4) install new stud. I find theres no point most of the time trying to salvage any hardware bc you just waste time and energy
A little trick after you heat it up splash it with water it helps
411 on that heat tool! Enjoy video and customer can see why your shop time to do the job! Customer need to be educated!
Do yourself a favor, invest in the Mini Ductor HP, 1800 watts, Heats them up way faster.
A Pittsburg impact socket would do fine I'd say
get ya self some socket extension savers. 😊😊👍👍
Brass hammer…..cool!
Excellent work. I have a question about the mini-ductor. Can you cook a hot dog with it?
Eric O calls it Big Nasty
Yes, and Astro Pneumatic Tools has adopted Eric's nickname for their 4980.
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Wouldn't it be just better to use a nut splitter they work great better than a chisel
you really want to get it orange or yellow hot the nut not just red give it a blast in the threads with some silicone oil as well before you trying to take it off what is PP blaster? are you talking about penetrating oils? do you know if you can get any little 10mm triangle threaded pieces? that go over the triangle flange of the bracket, mine so rusty I just have to put bolts and nuts on the ends but really I need to spread the weight because it's so rusty and gone! and I was thinking about cutting 8mm triangle pieces to give it support easier if I can buy some.
Cool tool and how to get rusted nuts off useful information thanks
Those tires are gonsky!!! A real hazard on the road!
That air hammer has to much power . It’s hard to control I imagine. At the shop I work at we use a snap on air hammer and you can control the power with the trigger .
I like that heat tool. What’s the name of the spray oil?
Kroil
yeah that's a pristine car here in the north!
So many country songs about driving daddy''s old truck are about an Arizona truck.
Watch South Main Auto and Watch Wes Work if you want to see real rust.
Are you putting tires on the rig? 😂
Dude you just made s hole in that other pipe......careful dude. Lol
doesn't look like a nut splitter would fit in there
Hmm. Here's rusty - betimes, nothing much works beyond drilling/cutting - case in point is BMW N47 EGR valve feed pipe bolts - I broke 3 torx sockets off in one today before the 4th socket rounded out the fastner. That was after hitting it with a punch/hammer, heating it red hot, drowning it in penetrating fluid & then using an air-chisel to try ease it around. Nope. Not budging. Gonna need drilling out.
That works less well when there's no way to get a drill in. For those, God invented 20mm belt sanders & patience. Loads of patience.
“Stop, slow down”. Sounds like my Dad talking….
I envy your lack of experience with rust
I hate rusty vehicles. Good thing 99% are fire the most part rusty free
Lol “rust”
Could have cut all those off in the time it took to get that thing hot.
This was painful to watch.
Addendum:
Kerosene and atf. 50/50.
Pre soak wouldn't hurt either.
First!
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Eric just mentions Vic and bolts start to come loose 😂 @southmainauto
Why didn't you use mixture of ATF and acetone?
Where is the rust?.
We saw these comments coming. This vehicle was up north for most of its life and it is rusty. The video definitely doesn’t do it justice though. Noticed that when editing it. The purpose of the video still remains the same though.
Don't matter, your videos are still on point and have a nice scientific approach to a solution to a problem, even if it may be something most part replacers would call without diagnosis. You're videos show how sometimes it may not be what it seems. It's nice to know and be correct, which is what separates us from them guys who just fire parts. I been a mechanic for 30 years heavy equipment and automotive currently. I was only throwing a dig,you have a excellent crew and professional approach. I am from nova scotia and the rust is epic here wish I could post pictures for you my friend...take care and keep the videos coming.
Sell that customer some tires 🛞