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Wait until Bruce finds out how Itachis parents died.
Damn at that point he really does win with no difficulty, he's going to take this fight very personal.
Your next video might be batman vs god with prep time.
Batman puts a tracker on him at their first meeting then Bruce realises that he was put under a genjutsu like those couple anbus even placed a crow inside of him
then both go to the batcave and talk about how Jason and Sasuke are their emotional punch bags XD
Itachi monologues as Batman’s and itachis fight continues, “they even managed to convince me to kill my father fugaku and my loving mother Martha,”
“Wait, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT NAME?!”
Batman is the perfect example of why Street tier characters are fucking broken
Which tbh is kind of dumb in so many ways
@@Redoren966 street level how?that's a dumb term for let's say wolverine who can kill a the hulk and it takes wwh to stop him that's not street tear.
@@zombiewolf3244 Well for one if a normal human can hurt a planet level opponent then they are obviously not human
I called batman Street tier because for a "street tier" he is fucking broken.
@@Redoren966 Lu Bu, Lui Kang, Grand Master, Zhao Yun, yeah like it's so stupid that even by dumb logic it don't make sense.
Itachi fans are so mad rn😂😂lol Batman been here way longer tho. What did u expect??
Iron fist being a goon vid in future?
I'm curious what you think about berserk characters a gutts or zodd video would be great since we've seen a fair amount from them
Yessir... Guts(in berserker armor) vs aot characters would be good
Batman is the only human with planetary+ ap, mftl reaction , and can throw equipment mftl speed. Yet lose to street lvl enemies. Theoretically batman solos the Naruto verse then.
He doesn't have planet level AP nor reaction speed close of light speed
@@limitbreaker5560 he does
@@limitbreaker5560 he do tho lmaoooooo
@@eivor3975 that's pure plot armor tbh, in new age comics Batman is overrated af
@@limitbreaker5560 golden age batman kicked a thick rhino meters away and check out fernando comics recent video
What Naruto character could even beat Batman??
Madara, Hashirama, Nagato, Naruto, Sasuke, Orochimaru, Jiraiya, Sakura, Kakashi, Kisame, MIGHT GUY,
@@goldenhamon6749 literally non of those guys are beating Batman
@@goldenhamon6749Bro been choking on anime cock throughout this entire comment section lol
I feel comics are so dumb for letting a normal human tango and basically do well against god tiers yet a normal thug can still hurt them
That's because comics don't really care for the power lvls of characters. There not consistent like how manga characters are
@@aronguillen7951 I kinda agree. Like how the fuck is a Tiger is going to beat a Dragon, a Whale, and Godzilla. Yet he get fuck up or hurt by a Bunny and a Rat.
The thug is also god level, easy
Thanks have the mindset I wish most mediums have. If it's not fun we don't give a s***. Most of what the old comics used to care about was how fun a story was. And that's why I enjoy comics. But it's just with comics they're always interested in the fun factor. Or at least it was until the sjws came and took everything.
Bad writing
Ngl I’m a Batman fan, he’s my favorite comic book character ever, but I honestly thought Itachi would take the W
Why'd you spoil the video?
@@hewhobattles8869 shouldn’t have looked in the comments first
That’s just his opinion on his channel
@@PantherCrane I mean he has some pretty damning proof though
@@plzletmein3267 it’s all opinionated!
Batman is my favorite comic book character above all period! However I’m not naive Batman is a fucking walking piece of plot armor he’s 💯% human there’s no way in hell he should be able to do all the shit he’s able to do in these comics “ Lol “ he’s the most Op & Hax human being in DC Comics “ Simple & Plain “ !
There No Debating That !
@@WallyWestEXE Lmfao Sure !
On my
Channel is responded to this video
I agree
but I also disagree that batman is a normal human.
I would say he's more of a Captain America level character in terms of physicality.
@@WallyWestEXE Not true. In terms of strength (punching power.) He's only a bit below cap.
In terms of speed he's almost completely equal
And in terms of durability he is slightly above cap thanks to the bat suit.
@@WallyWestEXE It's funny how I can tell immediately that you have never researched batman before in your life.
Watch YFV batman vs captain america the truth.
My mind says Itachi yet my gut says batman via some bs feat from like the 60s
Lmao fr same
Batman beats trashtachi in everything
Batman is definitely not human, that guy is far and above super/meta human.
Wonder woman and hawkgirl feeds is by looking at a couple of concepts like in fighting. I was taught to fight in martial arts and the thing that I learned that was a pretty simple idea was the idea that when someone throws a punch instead of being in front of it and move it from the side of their arm and it has no power. So basically if someone weighs 130 lb but has super strength you still move their body from the side easily you can still leverage their body weight.
Very interesting video.
The only issue I have with these kinds of Composite comic debates is that the term "Street Tier" becomes completely obsolete after you have proven that in all stats Batman is anything but "Street Tier".
I think we should reexamine how we define these "Tiers".
Its a bogus tier
@@BigSirSplash
That's what I've come to discover.
Here is an interesting video:
Who is the strongest character batman can beat without prep?
Or in other words...
Who is the strongest character Batman can beat with just his standard gear?
Edit: You could even do a series where you analyze all of the street tiers in the same fashion and put them through "The Gauntlet" until they break.
For comics it's a bogus tier it just means characters who primarily deals with street crime. Cause bats, spiderman and daredevil are all street tier characters but square up with higher characters. Also in batman case a lot of his high fighting ability is his gear
LMAO why is this a debate? Batman has beaten much worse.
With prep!!
Which makes no sense
@@terminator1567 his regular suit can even withstand against Superman's vision who's hotter than the sun.
@@Redoren966 Itachi is probably a lower mid tier to low tier in the grand scheme of DC and a mid tier in his own verse by the end of the series, why would it make no sense for Batman to beat him?
@@bluecrush4903 his normal suits Lol when that happened
And they say Batman is human? Really in paper perhaps but that human part just jumped off the window a long time ago. He is nothing more than a living embodiment of in story BS. May as well say he is above supes and he is suppose to be human? Come on now!!!! Narrative wise he is not so this match makes no sense. AS hax and superhuman Itachi is nothing beats absurd plot armor to the point of me asking why is this even a match?
@tremaine marion or the fact that Supes is shown in pain. A man that can practically move beyond speed of light gets hit by Dark sides Omega beam but Bats can just magically dodge those wtf? At this point he may as well come to the battle naked ha ha. That way his power level can be measured or quantified. For someone who is suppose to be human he is broken.
Lol 😂
He's a living narrative , Almost as pure as Superman's narrative .
Also lucid dreamers in DC threaten the Dreaming a realm where Gods are made , why is Batman and other humans in DC any different , why downplay a verse which already has its own rules and lore , hell the life entity is on Earth and humans can ascend to become higher beings and absorb energy from more than the emotional Spectrum .
Why is the hate on Batman here.
Okay this is absolutely ridiculous! I don't know how we can still say with a straight face that Batman doesn't have superpowers if you take into account all of that counter psychic stuff he has, all of his god-level Tech( which by the way is why people don't make such a big deal that Green Lantern is human), and FTL reaction speeds! As far as I'm concerned "Batman is just a human" is just propaganda at this point.
Issue is itachi isn't psychic so all the counter mind hacks are meaningless on batman's side
@@xcbaby123 my comment has nothing to do with the fight just people claiming Batman has no super powers.
I keep rolling my eyes at people who says Batman or Iron Man doesn't need super powers to beat bad guys even though they enhances their high tech gear with super powers to be able to fight god tiers which contradict the concept of heroes who uses no super power. Even though i enjoy Batman mostly the older versions i cant help to think him as an example of how far plot armour can go.
Agent 007 is one of the few heroes i could think of who falls into the concept of humans with no super powers
Itachi: I have one of the strongest genjutsus, the strongest black flames, and cloaked susanoo.
Batman: (cracks knuckles) hold my Cape.
@@eivor3975 yeah wait great point, what's batman going to do against kotoamatsukami or izanami?
@@eivor3975 of course
Itachi still wins.
he's got something for those
The fact that Batman is even moving out of the way of an enraged Wonder Woman is crazy to me. Street Tiers in comics are ridiculous in combat
Also I believe that if your that fast in reaction time, your fighting speed should be similar or even greater than that. And if that is the case, Batman’s blows should greatly stagger Itachi, possibly kill him if he was serious because Batman knows like over 100 martial arts styles, has advanced weaponry to harm or immobilize beings like Superman. In my opinion, Itachi is not beating Batman.
Yet he loses to a dude dressed in question marks
Dude dressed in question marks?
I think you mean The Riddler. If that is the case The Riddler in comics is actually more intelligent than Batman. So if Batman lost, then it was because The Riddler is better at outsmarting him. Even Superman got outsmarted by Lex Luthor, a “super genius” that can build crazy inventions out of nearly anything he can get his hands on
Nah that just means Wonder Woman is slow as fuck
@@triton1060 tf?
@@alexprime5015 what? Something wrong with what I said?
Batman beats itachi, Bruce is way more experienced, vast amounts of equipment and armory. Assuming Batman fights itachi for the first time, He is not gonna take the first blow, Batman always analyzes his opponents first, seeing what itachi is capable of, Batman would call in a batsuit such as the stealth suit, thrashed suit, hellbat suit etc. Assuming Batman fights itachi for the second time and learns about the sharingan, Batman has a device that can create high frequency audios and be transmitted from nearby Devices that can burst eardrums, and he has prototypes to blind someone temporarily if not permanently and render their eyes and ears useless. Batman has fought and defeated the justice league and put up a fight with darkseid solo. Yeah Batman bodies.
Sounds good (crow substitution) lol
@@goldenhamon6749 ?
He is not gonna win
“Oh shit! It’s the Bat!”
-every thug in Gotham City, for a good reason.
Goku vs Golden Experience Requiem
Imo this all depends on how you percieve gers ability and whats you account for his speed and power because reading the chapter again it seems like Ger has to actually still be able to kill the opponent by conventional means in order to activate the infinite darkseid esk death type of thing where in that case I think Goku stomps
@@Zwill1208 GER didn't kill Diavolo though. GER Muda'd him -> Death Loop starts -> Hobo kills Diavolo -> death loop repeats infinitely
Unless Goku has better or on par reality powers or resistance then it's a stalemate
Batman had mental defenses? I count that as a superpower especially since his only real weakness is his trauma. Like if superman has resistance to kryptonite.
Ignoring that time superman ate a piece of kryptonite
In dc willpower lets you neg mind hax lol
@@BigSirSplash One piece can relate... sometimes fodders have resistance to whatever oda feels like when he is writing... i don't complain tho
And people still think batman is "Just a normal human."
Prep time vs Fan Boys who will win!?
"because of ninja aids" 😭😭😭
We need a Thor vs Hulk honest truth Video.
@Goku Black It’ll be good cuz YFV is the most objective on Hulk and Thor.
If it's the calmest type Hulk yes BUT I rather not to pull out World Breaker cause I would love to stay alive
The comment would be wild🔥
Hulk got staggered by captain America. Pretty sure he’d get rag dolled by Thor 😂
@@triton1060 captain America outboxed Thor lol
I thought it was just post-new52 Batman.... Knowing that its not, and understanding that the material to draw feats from far surpass the amount of material from the narutoverse, I don't need to finish the vid to understand why Batman SHOULD win.
There just too much Batman has done over the decades he has been in print.
If you’ve taken one single karate class in Marvel or DC you can tag Speedforce users
Lmao
@@BigSirSplash Eobard Thaune got nothin on Khabib
He's actually taken 8 - 12 😎 batman is well versed in Martial arts
@yfv while i get what your saying with the power scaling narrative when it comes to this
fight wouldnt you also have to use/accept any low end showings bats has had as well?
And while i can agree with what youve shown that batman could resist tsukuyomi it doesnt really work like
mind control in dc in the sense that if batman breaks the genjutsu then itachi wont get hurt
as people have broken out of mangekyou level genjutsu and the caster is fine.
Itachi 's mind isn't connected to his victim's when using the Genjutsu. He could leave someone in there for days with a set time for it to end. By then, he's be long gone. I'm not saying Batman can't resist genjutsu, but I am saying that Itachi's mind wouldn't be harmed for using something that's equivalent to enchantment.
When sasuke broke his mangaleyo sharingan gen jutsu he was hurt badly and his eyes starting bleading and he was unable to open that eye.
@@kindle184 Sasuke didn’t break it remember Itachi pretend that Sasuke broke it ! People keep forgetting that Itachi wanted Sasuke to win that Fight ! Also his eye was bleeding cause he didn’t have EMS he only had MS meaning every time he uses his MS is goes blind it a side effect of using your MS unless you still another relatives Sharigan. Sasuke him self suffer from this when he got his MS he had to go back and get Itachis Eyes so he could gain EMS !
@@kindle184Mangekyuo Sharingan is know for causing blindness after long time use. That's why the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan exists.
@@MajinAsuraPath I don't think itachi was blinded when sasuke broke out of his gen jutsu he was hurt because of the use of MS and for the reason sasuke broke out he was unable to open the eyelid of that eye again remember his other eye was working perfectly fine.
Sasuke breaking out had nothing to do with Itachi's eyes losing sight. He didn't have EMS. Rather Sasuke brole out ot not, he would've went blind anyway.
To be honest the only real "street tier" out here that hasn't gone past the street tier limit is Black widow. I would say hawkaye and daredevil too but they have crossed the limit before
The Kree Empire(Marvel Comics) vs Shinobi Alliance, White Zetsu, Akatsuki and Reanimated Shinobi(Naruto)
The fact that you want to put the Kree Empire against the Shinobi Alliance and those other ppl makes me think you are trolling
@@Tone_Of_Dials you don’t know the kree do you? These guys are constantly giving Captain Marvel trouble and that girl(more consistently than not) is star level so she’s already equal to Kaguya! So they are gonna have to use every kind of jutsu they have in order to stop them.
@@michaelgarcia5680 Son I've followed the Kree since their first appearance in Fantastic Four back in 1967 and I'm saying those Shinobi are no match for them whatsoever.
@@Tone_Of_Dials oh I thought you were saying you thought they were gonna lose to the naruto characters but never mind but yeah they god stomp the naruto verse.
@@michaelgarcia5680 kaguya isn't star level
Itachi has a lot of light speed statements. His water style jutsu is stated to be light speed and his healthy state while edo without disease can scale to kcm who dodges Raikage who is blatantly stated light speed
You know batman reacted to super man tier characters with out prep which are mftl +
@@dmndntnzndndnd8865 are they going that fast tho when attacking they probably don't even feel the need to
@@dmndntnzndndnd8865 never denied Batman, only stated itachi feats
@@Owen-sx4jj no they were blood lusted
@@satanpills6232 no i am saying that he out scales
Imagine if Itachi was somehow sent to Gotham after he killed his clan and was adopted by Batman and can't get back to his Naruto universe. Itachi would be badass in DC. Especially once training with everyone.
I love naruto Itachi is a awesome character but you have to look at the facts and the fact is that Batman has gone against characters just way above Itachi level. Batman is my favorite character and it is a human God in comics great video
No he's not
I had no idea that batman was so good against mental attacks. Respect to batman.
Spawn(Image Comics) vs Madara(Naruto)
Spawn,I think he takes it no diff,Dudes kinda nuts
Spawn
Spawn, zero difficulty
Oh by the way you had a slight misunderstanding about Amaterasu: the technique Burns anything it touches as if it were flammable up to and including burning fire itself. The heat of Amaterasu is functionally irrelevant. Batman still wins more often than not but it's something to take into account.
For a human Batman has some unreal feats😆🤦🏾♂️they just let him get away wit anything in comics I see
I agree with you
Look Wonder Woman is a a woman and u having professional female athletes louse to 14 year old boys n sports so the case is there for her being slower then itachi
I think if you want to know about Batman's mind ability you should read Grant Morrison's Batman run, it's insane and a great read.
Completely unrelated but can you do a hulk vs thor truth video?
Thor
Sheeesh🔥 comments finna be wild
@@too_official6194 hulk do hold back because of banner, mindless hulk is too dangerous
@@too_official6194 hulk do hold back because of banner, mindless hulk is too dangerous
@@too_official6194 Hulk literally said he was holding back against sentry
This one might need a follow up similar to All Might vs Cap
All Might should win
That one was even bigger bullshit than this one. I'll fully admit, that one sent me
Tbh people forget that in a lot of cases comics just have better feats than most manga...not all, but it's true.
@@thequestion174 yeah but the entire point of cap is that he's just barely superhuman. Like batman, he's just some guy with a massive set of balls surrounded by gods and monsters. Out of his league but manages to stay in the fight out of pure grit. He was never meant to be able to take on someone like all might. Or in this case, itachi
@@therealchristian1 Ik, but feats say other wise and humans in marvel are built a little different.
Yeah matchups like this are frustrating because it feels intuitive that batman shouldn’t be fast enough to react to react to itachi. “He’s only human”, right? But batman is sick, at this point the justice league would lose it’s identity without him. So he has to be on the team, and he can’t just be the brains, he has to get involved, these are comic books. So necessarily, he has to pull off stunts that are way beyond the batman we see in Gotham. Then through scaling, some ripped billionaire scales above a high tier from naruto.
Like amaterasu for example, the first person we saw dodge it was the raikage, why should batman have comparable reaction speeds to A? It just feels so wrong.
A good limitation might be to limit batman only to his own titles (so no justice league). We’d still get some crazy shit but it would be much more down to earth. we ran into the same issue with captain america and all might.
There was a really telling phrase in there, something along the lines of “if you respect the scaling game”…
“I’m not just a man I’m BATMAN stupid!” 😂😂
Why is this a thing??
"Bitch I'm not just a man, I'm Batman stupid" is the best line of the video😂
Who would be a good matchup for Popeye?
This just makes midnighter look better
I never even thought of this fight, nor heard anyone talk about it before. Interesting, I suppose?
After watching though, I can clearly see the arguments for Batman. I am genuinely surprised. My money WAS on Itachi, but now I'm not so sure XD
I agree with all the comments saying how ridiculous the things Batman does are, however. It's crazy.
You don't get hurt if someone resists genjutsu it just doesn't work
Batman has defenses set in his brain to hurt those who mind hax
@@BigSirSplash in Naruto verse they aren't looking into your brain when they do genjutsu it's not organic or a purely psychic attack in that sense. For lack of a better word, its more closer to mysterio's illusion
@@Owen-sx4jj what do they do? Is it anything to do with your mind lmfao. I proved batman negs real illusions, mentally projected and astrally. What options left do you have lmfao. Is it anything mind hax?? If so itachis fucked. It seems you are claiming no mind hax at all
@@BigSirSplash you can literally walk into a room and be under genjutsu that's how it works he's not immune to it and before he even realises he's under one he's dead and say he realises the second he gets in he's still dead it's take some time to break out,, enough time for Itachi to end him. Batman ain't blitzing anyone.
@@Owen-sx4jj he literally has auto defenses. He doesnt have to realize it to insta neg it lmao
Batman is the goat
On a average day itachi wins 10/10.. With plot involved Batman wins 10/10..
Every charachter has plot armor
Accurate 100%
It would be interesting to see how Batman would far against perfect susanoo Kakashi that can use both mangekyou sharingan at the same time. Because he can become immaterial and teleport away part of everyting he see at the same time.
Probably fcked lol
@@BigSirSplash I'm thankful you speak your mind dude we don't have to agree on everything
Imma bet on the bat
How sway itachi is faster stronger better fighter batman would need prep time to even hit itachi stop the wank in batman
@@zombiewolf3244 my comments keep getting deleted but I disagree cause I can’t even say anything
@@zombiewolf3244 so itachi stomps eh?
@@achimpanzee9210 no but how many shadow clones can itachi make? Can batman beat 5 10 20 itachi he's out matched by 7/3 margin
@@zombiewolf3244 he counters it with gadgets. Can itachis clones take on khryptonians?
Let me first preface my statement by saying I appreciate it the video it was very well done. But this is an example of why these types of discussions are very difficult to have, for example. All the feats that you showed of Batman were outliers based on the massive amount of history he has Batman has been mind control before by people weaker than Martian Manhunter. Batman has been beat too damn near death by people way weaker than wonder woman. You also have to take into consideration, continuities and riders. You can’t take Batman written by Frank Miller, and then say that is the exact same Batman that was written by Bill finger. Respectfully, it’s disingenuous Batman’s general showings are way lower than his rare higher showings. Also genjutsu not a psychic ability and does not work the same thus any psychic resistance he has is irrelevant. Also, Itachi is far too fast for Batman to even perceive his attacks. This is not a fight in any capacity. This is a curb stopping and Itachi’s favor.
😅Agree itachi wins this one...
SIKE batman solos itachi 😂😂😂 you say all this BS to claim that itachi will wins this? Yeah,sure
@@channeled.. Did you comprehend what I wrote? Are you familiar with Batman comics in the writers of Batman comics?
This is why discussing and debating comics, especially is very different because you have individuals I’m assuming like yourself who want to comprise every version of Batman into one and act as if they’re one in the same when they are not, Batman has multiple continuities.
When it comes to Batman feats he has way more that put him on peak human level then he does that put him in ranges that are usually completely out of his domain.
Itachi is not peak human he’s way above that his feats put him naturally above Batman. Now if you want to take feats from other riders that have him performing in ranges that are usually outside of his purview. Then that’s fine specify that version of Batman don’t just act as if all of them are the same character when they’re not
@@Lushe04 if we bring itachi strongest version of himself and batman with strongest version of himself as well who wins?
Obviously it's a one sided fight so yeah...problem solved.
@@channeled. that’s extremely disingenuous because an order for Batman to be able to beat Itachi. He has to be amped. This is something that should’ve been stated by the person creating the fight in the first place. This is an asinine debate and discussion. If you’re going to use a version of Batman, that completely out of class is his opponent, which makes this a fight made out of spite. Batman at his constant normality is no match for itachi in any capacity. That’s the truth but if you want to amp him then absolutely he takes it.
Thank You 😊
Ain't no way this nigga batman still considered as just "peak human" 😭😭
The naruto spite is real
Nah you all just don’t know what you’re talking about it’s laughable
@@goldenhamon6749Yo I can hear you sucking the salt from Itachis sack through my phone, sounds like he’s having a blast
I love how people are saying Batman is bad writing while Tony start (a depressed alcoholic) violates characters on Superman’s level sometimes 😂 like any human in the fictional realm with skill is bs in reality but it’s just that. It’s fiction. Not reality
The point you made about the Itachi being vulnerable when the suis wrong itachi can still move and use jutsu independently whilst the susannoo does something else. He could easily deflect explosives with a fireball or some other jutsu. Plus genjutsu is a case of you either get caught or u are strong enough to release it after it's already been cast that is. There is no inbetween process of the caster trying to gain control or peek into the mind
Specter is what you can call a narrative icon. It's pretty confirmed that his power scales based off of the observation of the source itself. Basically if his judgment is wrong the power of what is known as God or Infinity will reduce his capacity to take damage.
haven't finished the vid yet but i honestly think itachi would win. if it comes down to it he could just put Bruce in the izanami and its GG. BRUH I CALL IT NINJA AIDS TOO LMAO. so the thing with naruto mind hax such as tsukuyomi and izanami is they work differently than standard illusions and telepathy, especially izanami. izanami is genjutsu that captures a few seconds in time and forces the target into an infinite loop. its stated by itach himself that the only way to escape the genjutsu is to accept the outcome of the loop and the outcome being your fate
😂😂🤣🤣 make Bruce accept his parents are never coming back & he abducts children for his personal need of affection.
Also his nth metal batarangs cut through magic, I agree Batman’s psyche is great but don’t people need chakra to break outta genjutsus? Like I said idk muck so a no would suffice as an answer
Personally I'd give it to Itachi, batman is too thick in plot armour always just has the gadget he needs to win conveniently, outside of his plot cage I don't think he beats spidy let alone Itachi (without plot prep)
Batman has no powers and isn't even that smart going by IQ in comic standards yet he can keep up with ppl trillions of times FTL or immesurable 🤦 and staggers folk with solar system level durability 🤣 "plot" ....
However if you believe a well trained man at peak humain can do this outside of his "plot driven universe" fair enough ✌️
@@thedevourer. It’s called fiction. Santana did less training then Batman and is casually multi planetary. Your excuses aren’t working
OK but the question that really needs to be asked here is what if Batman And the robins were descendants of Uchiha? The trauma that caused Bruce to become Batman would be so strong it probably make a batwing shaped mangyeko sharingan right there. Imagine the change in all of Batman‘s tools, gadgets, planning if he had his own mangyeko power, natural abilities of the sharingan, possibly even jujutsu, and if you were to somehow awaken, his susanoo. I feel like it could tell an interesting story.
Speed for Batman:
Mid end: FTL or Higher.
High end: Massively FTL+ to Immeasurable
Via scaling to the Kryptonian-Tier
(DC's Herald-Tier).
Enough to keep up with Itachi at the Least.
Now I'm not saying who I think should win,
I was just pointing this out.
Batman is broken.
This is the problem with scaling Batman. The stories of the justice league need to adapt the other characters so that Batman has a fighting chance, you could see all of this as feats for Batman or massive anti feats for the other characters, which in my book makes more sense, because it’s more logical that the other character weren’t at their 100% that a almost superhuman can do all this shit. Plus by using this scale you could end up with ridiculous claims like Alfred having light speed reaction times because he’s been able to fight Batman enemies who contend with Batman who can react to enraged Wonder Woman. This is why it is super important that when we debate we aren’t disingenuous and recognize PIS (plot induced stupidity) which is hyper common in Batman stories. If we don’t rat for Batman itachi takes this match low to no diff.
How is it ratting if there are dozens to 100s of these instances?
Its a bad faith argument on your end and appeals to reality(the idea a fictional human is limited to what real humans can do)
Is it bad writing? Depends on what you think bad writing is. It is a frequent occurrence, and the only arguments against it I see are "but hes human!"
And your argument against batman improving over time with feats is wild to me. Almost EVERY character does that, including Naruto😂😂😂 you got to hate them all at that point.
The fact I can show overwhelming actual evidence compared to itachis case, and the response is "but hes human" is very telling to me.
@@BigSirSplash my argument isn’t that Batman is human. My argument is that this kind of feats are only done by Batman when he is in another characters story, which clearly indicates the author adapting the lvl of power so that Batman dosent get one shotted, because right when we go back to more human stories for Batman he goes back to a more logical set of abilities (at least as much as you can get with Batman). Comic book scaling can get wild, and even with characters who are more consistent, Batman is on the most inconsistent side of the spectrum, so in my opinion using feats like the ones you showed is disingenuous.
@@BigSirSplash I didn’t say that you where ratting, I said that this kind of scaling very easily can become ratting for Batman. Because he has hundreds of cases where he is clearly shown to be human, so only using high end feats and ignoring other stories and the clear hand of the author in this stories can be considered ratty.
I didn’t make an appeal to reality, my main problem is the inconsistency and clear problem with balance of power that comes with assuming Batman is on the lvl you are implying . I never claimed that he isn’t supposed to do this because he is human. However it does show weak writing when a highly trained human like batman can resist being RKO’d into the ground by multiversal characters and just shrugging it off 😂.
I don’t think that I argued against character growth, if you understood that I didn’t mean it.
Great points. I never been a big fan of Batman in Justice League and other stories where he poses as a strong opponent against god tiers because i feel like it goes against the concept of hero with no super powers which is the reason why i enjoy him in stories where he is a human kicking other humans asses without super high tech stuff and suit. Its not like i cant enjoy god tiers or super powers, im a big fan of several shows and animes with super powers such as X-men but the thing that troubles me is when writers decide to takes a character that isn't meant for handling certain environment and opponents but resorts to adapting the character for it by adding op feats, which in the end ruins the character for me.
Thats why i prefer more human heroes like Agent 007, because there is no super powers in his world and doesn't have the need for it. In the end it all comes down to what version of Batman someone likes more and who Batman is to them. To me i prefer the Batman who fights like a human and is more vulnerable compared to the Batman who can miraculously survive a punch or laser from a god tier with little scratch and build a battle suit that has super powers.
The next obvious point is that Batman is not street tear, he has an entire laboratory where he can update his weaponry. Street tear would imply that you keep the same tech. Batman has nanotechnology for one example. P I can easily assume that he can understand nano fiber technologies
one thing I don’t understand is how dodging an enraged Wonder Woman means Batman’s fast, and not Wonder Woman’s slow. 🤔
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Simple because WW’s got a crap ton of feats that are quintillions of times faster than anything Itachi can do.
@@michaelgarcia5680 But Itachi has a crap ton of feats that are quintillions of times faster than anything Batman can do... excluding the dodging wonder woman thing of course. Scaling is weird bruh. I have no reason to believe that Itachi couldn't dodge that same WW if Batman managed to. (Batman, a guy who can't even dodge bullets consistently lol.)
@@triton1060Incorrect
Can’t assume Itachi can react to the same characters Batman has considering there’s literally nobody even remotely as fast as WW in Naruto. At that point you’re just speculating
@@JustSomeGuy440 Well I think you missed the point of what I was getting at. The real issue is the inconsistency of scaling when it comes to Batman. If Wonder Woman can't tag Batman when she's enraged, that means she was either not going her full speed, or just slow as fuck. OR Batman just got incredibly lucky.
Just on my hack t control ability. Incredibly Canon to Batman's training learn how to train with the monks etcetera to master his mind. Has three personalities in his brain not two. You could dislike that or just accept it as a part of his character.
Basic batman gets slapped.
But some of his armor can take Superman... so best armor bats would slap I’d say...
But if it’s just batman. No prep time
Itachi: fhalegjsnsksl jutsu🙏
Batman: Prep time lsksnsjgelhf🙌, biatch.
Even if you equate the mind control seen in the DC verse. It's not the same as genjutsu...and batman's mind wouldn't react fast enough in real time to fight back. He loses on that front
Lmfao you think Itachis mind hax are superior to a white martians or MMHs? Beings that have multiversal mind hax feats and beyond?
Damn. Itachi SUPER OP
@@BigSirSplash batman is human. The fact that itachi can make days go by in a second or two tells us all we need to know. Then there is also izanami. If those were to fail still batman will still have been rendered immobile for long enough to get blitzed
@@xcbaby123 batman auto blocked a mind hax faster than infinite speed. You didnt even pay attention to the video.
@@xcbaby123 you think a day or two in a moment>>infinite speed mind hax??
Can I please quote you on that lmao
@@BigSirSplash it was over 50 years in a pico second, plus unless your saying Batman is in a such higher speed tier then itachi that itachi couldn’t tag him once what’s stopping the tosuka blade from stabbing him and sealing him away? And with the yata mirrior it will literally reflect any explosion or or batclaw or batarang he throws. And that includes the slime you mentions it will literally reflect it away. And you have weaker characters then that putting Batman under min control and him taking a decent amount of time to break free.
Gr8 video man I’d like to see Danny Phantom vs Spider-Man
A base sharingan is able to put a planetary creature like kurama(9tails) in a genjustu and itachi is considered the genjustu GOD. Tsukoyomi in the novels is stated to create a dimension in your head where he freely controls time. In novel(which is canon) Itachi made his girlfriend live her entire life in less then a pico second, he wouldn’t even have time to react. IMO Batman initially will DEFINITELY be able to keep his mind strong like Kakashi(and most likely better then most other ninja in Naruto) But I don’t think he can do it after spending 100 years in itachi’s tsukuyomi, he would eventually break cause even though Batman has the willpower of a god he isn’t the most stable person. Plus itachi does have the ability to look through memories so what’s stopping him from just making Batman relive Thomas and Martha death over and over and over. And it’s not like itachi is trying to hide your under an illusion, he will let you know so it’s no breaking out of it cause it’s not even technically mind control. He just basically puts you in a personal hell or heaven of his choice. Plus the obvious speed and power advantage(unless you bust out a multiversal character Batman happened to punched and hurt 1 time in the 70’s lol) I would guess itachi. I would definitely disagree with the physicality part of Batman being physically stronger. Because narratively it kinda just goes against the whole point of his character but power scaling wise sure I guess lol. Plus Batman gets consistently tagged and bitzed by all these characters he fights so I don’t think just cause he dodges a couple times dosent mean he can just keep doing it against everyone. I’m also not understanding what’s stopping itachi from stabbing him with the totsuka blade and sealing him, unless you say Batman is so much faster then him that he can’t hit him ONCE plus( if we’re saying powers work across verses) the Yata mirror will literally just reflect whatever Batman has to throw at him including the slime he has in his belt, that and he is not brawling with itachi, without prep most of these characters will put a hole through Batman IF they really wanted too. Like he has kicked the spectre before lmao so using these type of feats just dosent logicaly sit right with a lot of people. But I do think this is a bomb ass battle tho and a Batman with prep would wash itachi HARD.
Batman resisted martial man hunter mind hack who can mind hack multiversal level
@@dmndntnzndndnd8865 if Batman looks into itachis eyes he will be in tsukuyomi. You can’t just say it won’t work when lower level character then man hunter has put him under mind hacks. You cannot just say he will bust out a dimension being created in your head.
@@tsukune2910 men just because batman keeps up with character don't mean he's beating them
@@Owen-sx4jj I agree, that’s what my post was about. Batman is not beating these people with no prep.
@@Owen-sx4jj he resisted something stronger why will itachi genjutsu who is weaker will work on him
Never made sense that Batman is just a "human" . If he is the pinnacle of human potential then regular humans must be amazing.
no dude just being disingenuous
Guys all these people arguing that Batman would have a slight chance of even touching Itachi, do you have any idea who Itachi is?
He can literally kill Batman just by looking at him and less than a second
Yeah. Itachis mind hax are SO muchs stronger than ANYTHING Batmans seen in comics!!! Itachi literally mind haxes DC gods! Amiright??
@@BigSirSplash I don't know about people that have superpowers but Batman is a human. He's no match for Itachi
@@godnyx117 itachi is a human.
@@achimpanzee9210 Indeed he is a human but in the Ninja world ;)
@@godnyx117 Batman’s a human but in the superhero world 😐
Thank God that the narrator said that it's stupid to think that Batman fights in a single scaled level. It's a fact that Batman is in Street tier 2 near omnipotent level if he breaks his code.
Itachi kills Bruce Wayne and that’s facts!
You wrong batman got better speed feats and always has gadgets that can hurt super man tier characters also he can neg mind hacks that are superior to itachi’s genjutsu
@@dmndntnzndndnd8865 We’ll revisit this after your Eleventh birthday. Have a good one 😉🤣
@@PantherCrane anything itachi has done batman has delt with worse of that thing
@@Th390w3r 🤔😐🙄
@@Th390w3r Amaterasu ✌🏿
Batman is superhuman at best all the feats you listed out are outliers which shouldn't be used in a rela vs battle if he is light speed then why does he struggle to dodge bullet's?
Itachi vs Riku (Naruto vs Kingdom Hearts.)
And I also knew there was going to be a war about this.
Anytime fears are brought up they have to be taken in context of the story they are written in. I think in power scaling, specifically in comics, composite fears are used from different runs and times where a generic version of other characters are used to show a consistency that conflicts with the narrative. So for instance it was said that batman was able to deal with an enraged wonder woman. Let's pick that apart. Now one is an enraged wonder woman a better fighter than a regular wonder woman? Also this is to show that batman was not ready for the fight. However this is in conflict with the fact that batman at this point in the story is very aware of who wonder woman is and how to deal with her if something were to go wrong. it's reasons like this that too many assumptions are made in the scaling taken out of context of a broader narrative being told in a story. So I'd be questioning many of the feats done here. At least the Batman ones. Only because they are drawn from different runs and era of the character.
The heck are they talking about?! Itachi is Batman! Lol
These were modern references too. Batman whoopin.
Nice video with prep Batman should be able to take Itachi, but in a straightforward fight even with enhanced gear I think Itachi still has it. Mostly because he could use his crow clone to evade Batman and that he has the Mangekyo sharingan which can study Batman's movements and skills.
At this point if bane isn’t universal I give up
I'm not just Kratos fanboy, I'm also huge Batman fanboy. Thanks Sir Splash making sure my workday don't suck everyday.
Itachis Susano doesn’t even have legs.
Batman negs mindhax and could take down susanoo but what’s he doing against Amaterasu? It’s not hotter than heat vision, it just doesn’t stop burning
Wow feat the feats that you showed batman could fight on par with captain America . I know it's not related to Batman vs itachi.
As they say, well.... "he's Batman"
Batman got that anti-telepathy
i love itachi
@yfv also do you think without any gear that in a hand to hand match batman would/could take itachi down?
Probably about 2% of all the Batman shit he pulled Is cannon, the rest is some comic books from 30 years ago that got pulled from him ass
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@@achimpanzee9210 correct ≠ irritation
@@Calcifer111 sounds mad to me
Also didnt superman make a suit of armor for batman forging it inside the sun
It was the whole league working on that and lex luthor
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