Without weapons Captain wins. With weapons, Batman win. Batman is 10 smarter and won't got head to head with Captain, especially if he has time to gauge him and use prep time.
Dumbheadsss...batman took down most of the top dc assasinatons he took down many villain with super human strength n a character like deathstroke can't take him down too so what the heck is cap. America gonna do with just a shield...even badass characters like deathstroke couldn't take batman down no way is cap.america taking him down...just another enhanced super soldier boy....
Nah if he's stailmated against Deathstroke it's not Hard to see him getting some wins dude even said in the video pretty much there tied in a neutral area cap and in the city batman definitely gets wins
@@porobotboyxxx yea I meant like wen he fought him like the first time in the terminator he did lose and yes he has beaten and stailmated him to your right
In a non canon cross over, Batman admits that Cap is slightly better in hand to hand combat. I believe that to be true in this what if vs battle. Overall great video!
@@too_official6194 eh a Wins a Win also the statement is a bit off. batman didn't say cap was better he only said that its probable that he might win with his level of skill. and mind you they fought 3 times batman won the first one and the 2 others were ties.
Captain America, by MARVEL'S writers and editors words is the "ULTIMATE HUMAN FIGHTING MACHINE" and has "MASTERED EVERY FORM OF UNARMED COMBAT AND GYMNASTICS". In addition the serum has his sense memory and mind moving at maximum capacity to figure out anyone's fighting style in seconds and mimic it back. Ala Taskmaster.
Physically Steve takes EVERY category period. That’s what the SSS does. Cap is the peak of human evolutionary potential in all areas. To be above Cap by definition makes them super human. Steve is the fastest, strongest, most agile, most durable, along with the greatest endurance of any human who has ever lived or will ever live. Not just for his body type, he is as strong as a 350 lbs body builder on PCP while being as agile as a 90 lb female gymnast for example. He is technically not superhuman because it is possible for a human to achieve his abilities but it is impossible for one body type to achieve this in all areas so he should be considered enhanced. Batman is human perfection for he’s body type but their are humans superior to him in areas such as Nightwing’s agility. Unarmored is a cage Steve dominates, standard gear ina random encounter Cap mid to high difficulty depending if he can hold on to his shield or not, with prep and or specialty gear Batman.
That's what most people overlook in this matchup. Batman is at Peak Human capability. But thanks to the SSS, Cap is _beyond_ Peak Human. Now if Batman were to get dosed with the same procedure, then forget it, Batman would probably whip the sniveling shit out of Thanos. But, as is? Nah. Cap takes it.
This is literally the first cap vs Batman arguemt I can agree with thank you for realizing and emphasizing that Batman is more of a environmental fighter, so yes his tier, fighting ability does depend ware fights takes place.
The problem I have with Batman is that all of his best feats are pure plotarmor. The thing that's supposed to make Batman "cool" is that he's supposed to be a human with normal human limitations who still manages to hang with top-tier heroes and villains. But then you look at his best feats and they're all things that are, by a very wide margin, completely beyond the realm of possibility for a normal human to perform. He lifts far more than the strongest men in the world who are roided to the gills. Somehow, even though he's weighted down with all his gear and literally wearing a parachute (his cape), he's able to run 2-3X faster than the fastest olympic sprinters who got their times wearing little more than running shoes and booty-shorts. His feats are CLEARLY at metahuman level, but they refuse to call him metahuman because that contradicts the premise of his character ... and this is why it's a cheat because his feats are also a contradiction to the premise of his character! If you take Batman as he is written up and supposed to be and only count his non-plot-armor feats, he's a pretty good street-level hero with a lot of money and a high IQ who wouldn't stand a chance in hell of beating Cap any day of the week.
You do realize it's the same thing for cap right? He started his career as peak human but over time his strength and speed was exacerbated to superhuman levels. Cap is also no stranger to plot armor as well but yes I agree the plot is strong with Batman.
Batman is not normal human he train his strenght, mental and brain to unclock another sense He unclock hypotasis prediction How i know he unclock hypotasis prediction? Because he can dodge deadshoot bullet and omega beam He not just dodge it like “yeah this is easy” but he calculating how fast omega beam/deathshoot bullet That call is hypotasis prediction he predic all possible lity in a second time Marvel fans says “plot armor” because you are dont read his story, what he learn and what he can do He not only the guy learn teakwondo/muaythai but he meditation to unclock another sense to make his sense better that all about batman is try to get power not like that all heroes superman get power because his species, captain get his power instant because serum, thor because he is god and other But batman he try to make him self better in real life that is true that human can unclock six/more sense batman train not like little kids he must suffering If you dont know about hypotasis prediction you must watch the equalizer there is you will see how batman fight (that is not batman but how batman fight really same with him)
@@eivor3975 I agree a lot, I can definitely see Cap winning this fight hands down. However, as long as Batman has superior tech & that annoying plot armor, Bat takes this.
Good video man. I don't disagree necessarily with anything you said.... however, I don't see Batman engaging with Cap in an open arena or environment. That's not how he operates, he's the Dark Knight man. Taking Batman out of the city would be unfair to him because that's simply where he operates, unless theirs some global threat and requires him elsewhere. It simply WOULD happen in the city whether it be in NY where Cap is, or in Gotham where Bats is.... Batman is also more unpredictable. You never know how he's gonna beat you, because he's the ultimate strategist. I think Batman takes him man, I really do. It's a close fight everytime, but I think Bats takes him down
CA's Defense is too good. Batman and Cap's Fighting skills are close but Cap's reaction speed is better. Batman has better weapons and is a little better at fighting weaknesses. Captain America random encounter CP 7/10 2nd meeting Batman 6/10
I think pretty much everything you said is about on point 1 things you messed up on though Captain America is from Brooklyn New York you can put him in a street fight in the city he's had fights with characters that act like batman in cityscapes.
You touched on it a bit but I find that an open field in this fight definitely favors cap, although he wouldn't be able to use his shield as effectively. In an open field I think batman would prioritize getting to better ground as apposed to fighting head on
If it's a random encounter, Steve wins, more times than not. If both have full preparation, and knowledge on the other, Bruce wins, more times than not.
When Captain America and Batman fought they called it a draw. Batman said they were equals and could fight all day except Captain America would ultimately win due to not fatiguing.
I think on neutral ground, Cap definitely wins. He's just too strong, quick, skilled, experienced, and tactical for Batman. Like you mentioned, Cap is so skilled that he's literally been able to box Thor himself and defeat Iron Fist. In the city, I'd give a very, very slight edge to Batman just because that's more his environment. However, I do think there's a strong possibility that Cap would be able to quickly adjust to the city fight due to his insanely intense training regimen. So if he pulled out the victory there too, it wouldn't surprise me. So many people don't realize just how freaking insane Cap really is...
Lol, Batman is more tactical, more skilled, and definitely a better fighter, extremely quick, and in strength they are probably pretty much equal (the comics version I mean), in the Cinematografic Universes is other thing
people always leave out Batman's strongest feats when talking about this. Batman has strength feats such as benching over 1 ton, moved a 23 ton boulder and ripped the door off a plane mid flight which requires at least 12 tons of force. Cap still probably takes strength by a tiny bit, he's more consistent. Durability def goes to Batman especially with his suit. Took a beating form RF and kept getting up, tanked hits from characters like Darkseid, Superman and Wonder Woman (WW without his suit) and survived a 28H gauntlet that only ended because no one wanted to fight him. Combat Speed is close as they both dodge bullets but Batman has also reacted to speedsters and was faster than Deadshot in a quickdraw. IQ and battle IQ is Batman, I don't think I need to explain. Same with gadgets Experience is Batman also since he trained in the league of shadows for 12 years Batman wins mid-high diff IMO
We can all agree that no matter who wins both of these guys are going to have to give it their all. For me I think it's 50/50. Either could win. I don't think there is a right answer. It's just too close.
And you know what batman is my favorite character in all of fiction but I couldn't agree more this is 50/50 between batmans skill arsenal hax durability speed and iq/detective deduction and mental skill and willpower oh and all of his insane inhuman feats from across comics and caps experience in war and fighting lots of skilled oppents aswell as physical and mental ability in terms of punching higher than peak human and sheild and overall benefits he gets from the super soilder serum
@@thecapedcrusaderofgotham4133 Batman could use that to his advantage but you’re acting like daredevils never dealt with his weakness being used against him
@@achimpanzee9210 I meant that as more of a humorous statement. I’m aware he has compensated for the weakness in the past. I was responding to Diablodon when he said a better fight would be Batman vs Daredevil. Daredevil is marginally faster, more agile, and more environmentally aware due to senses. Batman is a marginally better fighter, stronger, better tactician, smarter and has better equipment. Batman vs Daredevil would be at worst a 9/10 in Batman’s favor. A better fight would be Nightwing vs. Daredevil.
@@thecapedcrusaderofgotham4133 you’re seriously underestimating daredevil here. I don’t disagree that Batman wins but it’s definitely not a 9/10 on Batman’s worst day. More like 7/10 to maybe 8/10 mid to high difficulty.
@@achimpanzee9210 I appreciate your opinion. He’s a good character. He just doesn’t stack to Batman. Batman has just so many tools. If they were in civilian clothes and fighting in a cage match then I could see 7/10 or 8/10. Batman with his suit and utility belt is just too much. Frank Miller really revolutionized both characters. Man Without Fear was amazing. I like Bendis and Quesada’s takes on the character.
This is definitely a difficult match up to decipher. The one thing that I feel is a misunderstanding with people's opinions in this case is that physically and mentally Cap'n holds a solid advantage. His strength, reflexes, and thinking speed trumps Batman and any of his gadgets. If I explain this in a game of chess terms, Cap'n is 2 moves ahead of any move Batman may make. Batman is definitely fast and super smart but all in all Cap'n is faster and thinks faster with very similar level of intelligence. I have to disagree with the 6/10 in the city part because if it were to take place in the city then Cap'n definitely has a gigantic advantage with his shield trajectories. If Batman tried to zip line his way out for distance then Cap'n can simply cut the line or at least make Batman miss his mark by having to dodge mid zip. And even if Cap'n were to separate from the shield, his reflexes mixed with is strength and combat/movement speed is way faster than Batman. Again, the thinking speed along with all that is just too much for Batman. Batman is peak level human while Cap'n is super human. That alone should be enough to understand that Batman can not handle Cap'n... even in a city setting. A peak level human with mastery of fighting and strategy intelligence vs a superhuman with mastery of fighting and strategy intelligence.... think about it!
Keep in mind, Batman has fought and beaten super humans with only his fighting skill,No gadgets. Batman has also outthought and managed to hit the flash. Hitting the flash is pretty bullshit but Batman is widely considered top 3 smartest humans. Amanda waller who made the suicide squad believe Batman may be an unconfirmed meta human. Both are strategic geniuses however Batman is definitely more cunning and is willing to use more underhanded methods. Cap doesn't outspeed Batman to the point where he would blitz him. Batman's gadgets would also give Batman a huge edge on cap. With gadgets Batman wins hands down. Without gadgets(and taking away caps shield) cap holds a much better chance. 7/10 to Batman with gadgets and shield. 8/10 to cap without gadgets and shield.
@@MrMythul I really wish that was completely true! First and foremost Flash is somewhat of a goofball similar to how Spiderman is. Even Wally West Flash. He gets tagged by everybody!!!! If you deny that then I'm definitely winning this argument lol Yes I totally agree that Batman is a genius and a super badass! The only thing I can't agree on is that Cap'n will lose to Batman. I love Batman to death, he's seriously my 2nd favorite of all comic characters under Hulk. Cap'n isn't even on my top 10 and I still can not say Batman wins. Yes Batman has some awesome feats but to know that he got taken down by Lady Shiva and got his back broken by Bane and may other reasons just doesn't show me any possibility that he can take Cap'n down. You have to keep in mind that not only does Cap'n accomplish all his feats with a basic suit that's way less protective than Batman's, but handles opponents that clearly surpasses Batman. I'd maybe give him 2/10 at the most against Cap'n. And that 2 is with prep time but WITHOUT enhanced suits. I'm gonna be coming out with a solid video explaining this and many other comparisons because I can't keep listening to all this biased and hypocritical content. My last point is the majority of Batman's wins are with prep time. Those that he wins without are just street level thugs but in all honesty he is also prepped for them due to his ridiculous amount of training. I could list precise points on why but I feel I don't need to since I've done it already in this tread lol
@@jessevargas8564 Captain America doesn't require a ridiculous amount of prep time. He is weaker than bane when he is on venom. The closest comparison to captain america in DC comics is Deathstroke, a super soldier with an enhanced healing factor. Batman and Deathstroke are pretty even when they fight. Captain America has nothing to deal with a multitude of gadgets that Batman has at his disposal in his most basic suits. Including explosives, sleep gas and Neuro toxins he keeps on him at all times to deal with bane, smoke pellets, and a variety of batarangs that Batman has shown skill enough to throw them past captain America's shield. Keep in mind Batman has also been training his enture life as opposed to from the point after being injected with the super soldier serum like captain america. DC comics also scales higher than marvel comics as a whole. Captain America has abovee peak levels of strength agility and stamina, he is not immune to sleeping gas and knockout toxins. Cap is extremely capable and smart. There are a number of tactics that wouldn't work against Batman and it wouldn't be an easy fight. I admitted that people tagging flash is pretty bullshit, however Batman is still considered fat smarter than any flash. Caps main tactic will have to be separating Batman from his utility belt, as all characters of this caliber tend to do when fighting batman. With his gadgets cap won't be able to get close to Batman and cap is a primary hand to hand fighter. Tbh you sound pretty biased against cap giving Batman a 2/10 chance when they are pretty even all things considered.
@@jessevargas8564 keep in mind, Batman won't fight cap head on. He will evade cap and put distance between them until he has been able to gather the necessary info to know what he is up against. Batman is far smarter than to fight some one who is physically better than him head on.
in the realm of such skilled fighters and super heroes, knowing "all" martial arts isn't impressive to me. So much is bloated and wasted. We have something that already showed this, the UFC. Only a few styles is all you need to make you well rounded. You just need to be proficient enough to make you well rounded. The rest lies with the fighters themselves, not knowing more martial arts.
Having both trained with and sparred with, this is still difficult to call consistently, these guys are the only two white guys I admire and aspire to for various reasons, this is a family fight, I can only watch and let it come to one match no blood and call it. I still believe that kakarot bodies Clark, 🤣👍🏿
I feel like if they’re both bloodthirsty, Batman would win, if we assume they all use their standard gear, both going for the kill. But in a normal encounter, Cap might have it🤷🏽♂️
Cap- stronger, faster, more durable, greater stamina, better at the defense Fighting Skill is fairly equal. Bat- better gear and tech, fairly more strategic and smarter, better at the offense
@@eivor3975 look I'll give Steve the speed and strength points smart and intelligence is all Batman stop lying even the biggest cap fanboys will agree with that point. And if he's that why isn't up their with iron man and co?
I got a few. Boba fett vs deathstroke, superman(DCEU/Snyderverse) vs iron man(MCU), captain america(mcu) vs wolverine(x-man movie's), superman(injustice) vs omni-man, and captain America(the avenger game) vs batman(the Arkham game universe). Also can you do a how powerful is Henry cavill superman video?
Batman has developed his mind and body as far as Bruce Wayne’s mind and body can possibly be developed. The super soldier serum developed Captain America as much as all human potential. It is a slight edge, and both beat guys like the other all the time. I think it’s 60/40 for Cap.
Batman has fought Deathstroke and lost ounce in first encounters and fought with him on many occasions and majority of those times and stailmated so him getting some wins over cap isn't crazy at all and let's put it to rest batman is a little bit above just peak human it's definitely a tie cap and batman would get wins off each other imo
Absolute facts it pisses me off so much when stupid fanboys say either character stomps the other like this wouldn't be a knockdown drag out fight. I honestly see them fighting for a few hours then calling it a draw then grabbing a beer 😂
The whole batman has masterd 127 martials is imposable if he is a human chacter it takes actual masters their entire lives to master a single one and even then then they have to adapate with new sytles and techniqics
Um, when batman trained with the League of shadows they did magic mediation so in his mind were time moves way slower he could train and learn alot in a short time.
While Captain Ameica is stronger and faster this dosnt mean he is going to run right over Batman in a fight. The problem is Captain America despite his abilities does intend to struggle against people who are no where close to what Batman can do. And given how Batman deals with enhanced foes all the time like Deathstroke and Bane and killer croc he would use the same approach on Captain America. For starters Batman cant go head to head straight up with Captain America due to his strength. However because Batman knows counters to enhanced foes he will know what to do to slow Captain America down. Ultra sonics and knock out gasses and electronic baterangs and explosives and many other things will have a massive effect on Captain America. Combine with scarecrows fear toxins and posion ivys spores. Combine with Batman calling in the batwing or batmobile and rain down missles and gun fire and other weapons on Cap. Combine with the fact that he can spot Cap miles away with his detective mode and he can use stealthy attacks on Cap. Once Batman uses hit and move attacks combine with his gadgets and tech it will slow Cap down and hurt him in time. And given how Batman has the genius IQ to give Superman and Darksied and Doomsday clones trouble the same will be said for Captain America. So unless Cap somehow grounds Batman and dosnt let him escape and keeps it straight up I dont see him winning against Batman any other way. And its not as far fetched for Batman to beat him. Even gods know you dont f with Batman. He will always find a weakness in anyone. This will be a tough fight
I see bats knocking out cap with a high dose sedative or sleeping gas, or high voltage electric jolt of electricity Overall bats is the better fighter, trained by the league of assassin's, trained by wild cat and mastered all forms of martial arts and switches between then strategically and super intelligent you can't compare their intelligence
Caps feats have always just seemed...bullshitty. Batman trains his body over years to peak human physicality. Cap takes a serum. Batman learns virtually every martial art known by going through grueling training with hundreds of disciplinary masters of the art. Cap downloads his combat skill from a computer. Batman spends years learning various arts, sciences and languages from around the world. Cap gets injected with liquid 'be smart' serum. batman literally designs a suit to be able to contend with as much physical damage as one might expect to see. Cap has magic metal shield that wonks physics. like...captain america is a 6 years old 'nuh uh, my dad is bigger' type argument to basically any street level character.
Sorry, but while you do have a lot of good points, I think that Wolverine would eventually beat either or even both Batman and Captain America. Neither could match Wolverines stamina. His God-given natural powers trump human training.
@@x-rax716 link the comic issue where it says cap only mastered several. Caps learned martial arts beyond earth, and his mind absorbed combative history of 616. Lol.
What?!? If Batman preps for Captain America then he stomps! Batman and Captain American are my favorite superheroes. Cap’s best shot is in a random encounter. I believe Batman is the better fighter. Captain America kills people. The most consistent version of Batman doesn’t kill. To take down the enemy without using lethal force is much more difficult than outright killing them. Batman is aware of strikes to instantly kill his opponents but doesn’t use them. Batman’s gear gives him a huge edge. He could take out Cap with gas, explosives, poison, electricity, lasers, sharp batarangs (blood loss), ice pellets, and sonics. Batman is much more intelligent than Cap. He is a genius polymath. He can better use the environment and any tools he has access to in more creative and innovative ways than Captain America. Steve’s powers are often slept on. Some even claim that he doesn’t have any. He is in the casual 2-5 ton range. The issue even more people have is that due to feats, Batman is up there too. I’d still give cap a slight edge because of showings and the serum. Steve has to have them because all he has is tactics and physical strength. Batman can rely more on his versatile tools and intelligence. Batman is nearly Captain America physically without the serum. He would be an absolute monster with it!
@@thecapedcrusaderofgotham4133 Captain America consistently never kills. what are you talking about? You use a consistent Batman but a non consistent Captain America
@@lxfcrt4971 He is a soldier. He killed all the time in WWII. What you may be referring to is that he arrests or imprisons supervillains. It is for story reasons. He can’t just kill the Red Skull because he would rapidly lose enemies to fight. He kills countless no name soldiers, goons, and thugs. He does have his moments when he is “crime fighting”. He is a morally strong character. The no killing is just such a huge part of the modern Batman mythology. It doesn’t work with Cap’s background.
@shabeo Batman doesn't need prep time. He outsmarted Darkseid and Brainiac without pre time. Batman is smarter, more skilled and experienced than Cap. Cap is just a roided up grunt with a shield. Batman wins easy.
The comics are fun but it's no way a normal man can train his body or learn martial arts to beat a man that has been granted basically the physical strength of a Silverback an trained in the same martial arts eventually cap is supposed to take batman out. Bats is cool but they rank his feats to high
Im A huge Batman fan he is my favorite superhero, but cap definitely wins there about equal in skill and Cap has a super soilder sureum and an insanely powerfull sheild. The only way batman wins is through a knockout mabye with knockout gas or using caps sheild against him.
Lets be honest we all, myself included love batman more as a character.....but hes not beating cap one one .... not without months of prep time. But if they a fighting one one with not knowing about each other cap has it
I’m gonna give my personal opinion on neutral grounds if they are going hand for hand and nothing else then yeah Batman would definitely lose if we give Batman prep time to the feet Captain America he actually would be able to win this fight I mean really think about it he’s gonna get opponents way stronger than Captain America But we’re not talking about superman and Supergirl. We’re talking about being and like all these other superhuman characters who should be on par or even stronger than him. Batman will be able to come up with some strategy to beat Captain America in my opinion, but if it’s just neutral grounds and yeah, he loses not neutral grounds and he has prep time and he has time to study Captain America and all that study his strength and I guess pretty much everything else then yeah Batman would win.
Wait a minute, did you just call *both* Captain America *and* Batman second-to none when it comes to combat knowledge? In their respective verses, maybe, but obviously one of them has to be better, however slightly, than the other.
@@pattouco Which is bullshit. Batman could have just hacked Starks systems, thrown an EMP grenade, used his Hell-Bat armour etc etc. There's literally a 100 ways Batman could have defeated Stark. Remember. Batman has defeated the entire Justice and Darkseid. Tony couldn't even beat Thanos. Lame. Come see me when Iron-man wins oscars ;)
Batman would just run him over with the batmobile or blow him up Batman will win no matter what he's way to smart people think he would loose because he has no powers but Batman can beat people much stronger then captain America so he can beat him Batman wins
If it's in city I still think cap takes it, tbh i see it the same cause cap battle simulation experience throughout his life time I don't think it will make a difference since cap usually fights on streets, sure Batman can create more distance that way but I just see it the same where cap is no stranger to city fights he can also do the same as Batman this is how I feel but I do respect your opinion thanks for this vid splash
@@gangstermonkey6562 Same senerio bro I just don't see a difference tbh eventually Batman would get worn out where I see cap using the same strategy as Batman on the streets I don't see a difference at least that's how I feel it's just that I feel that cap has the edge even on streets due to his life time, at the end I just favor cap due to his experience and also because he knows the battle ground longer than Batman But again if you feel that bat wins then I have no problem but I'm edging towards Cap battle life experiences and simulation on almost all battle grounds
@@ozzi1113 the difference is as far as pure stealth skill Batman has an advantage he’s able to get the drop on pretty high tier metas. In an open field the only win con is to outfight your opponent this removes Batman’s biggest win con. When it’s a city Batman’s arsenal is a lot stronger and his ability to gain distance and break sight lines is increased which allows him to use stealth to catch cap off guard
Just know that Batman took down some of the top dc assassinations he took down many villain with super human strength n even badass characters like deathstroke can't take him down...batman is a real badass...capt.america just another enhanced super soldier boy no chance against the bats....
Good vid though I would say while boths intelligence are somewhat relative when u some it up I think Batman's strategic mind outclasses cap somewhat as while both may come up with strategies to take out one another if this fight were to draw out batman would certainly take advantage of that time the best also tiring batman out will be a difficult feat as in the court of owls storyline batman was deprived of food for days yet still could face up against and overpower a talion who got the drop on him at full strength
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Both are so evenly matched. Personally, I give Cap the edge due to his shield but I don't fault anyone for thinking Batman wins.
Without weapons Captain wins. With weapons, Batman win. Batman is 10 smarter and won't got head to head with Captain, especially if he has time to gauge him and use prep time.
@@younglove3362 I still think Cap's shield can counter almost anything Batman throws at him while Batman doesn't really have a counter for it.
Dumbheadsss...batman took down most of the top dc assasinatons he took down many villain with super human strength n a character like deathstroke can't take him down too so what the heck is cap. America gonna do with just a shield...even badass characters like deathstroke couldn't take batman down no way is cap.america taking him down...just another enhanced super soldier boy....
They definitely are not evenly matched. Captain America is way above Batman easy.
@@gamingwhileitshot8040Physically sure that’s about it.
Batman is crazy good at fighting, but I don't see him beating someone so superhuman, plus Caps fighting skill is nothing to scoff at either.
You said it all here bro.
Nah if he's stailmated against Deathstroke it's not Hard to see him getting some wins dude even said in the video pretty much there tied in a neutral area cap and in the city batman definitely gets wins
@@porobotboyxxx yea I meant like wen he fought him like the first time in the terminator he did lose and yes he has beaten and stailmated him to your right
Cap is not super human in comics, and also Batman demostrase some incredible super human feats
@@batman795 it's stated numerous times that Cap is physically more impressive than any peak human person.
In a non canon cross over, Batman admits that Cap is slightly better in hand to hand combat. I believe that to be true in this what if vs battle. Overall great video!
Yet batman won in their crossover
@Michael Terrell II Cap is better than batman at anything that has to do with physical prowess.
@@too_official6194 eh a Wins a Win also the statement is a bit off. batman didn't say cap was better he only said that its probable that he might win with his level of skill. and mind you they fought 3 times batman won the first one and the 2 others were ties.
Batman wins no matter what he's Batman he's won against people way stronger then captain america
@@cha0s529 "Batman's wins no matter what"
Sounds like a desperate fanboy argument
Captain America(Marvel Comics) vs Master Chief(Halo).
Danny phantom vs bill cipher
Chief gets slapped like a mosquito
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So like what Halo 5 did to him, basically, sadly. XD
@@Themegatrolll no
@@ThemegatrolllFalse
Captain America, by MARVEL'S writers and editors words is the "ULTIMATE HUMAN FIGHTING MACHINE" and has "MASTERED EVERY FORM OF UNARMED COMBAT AND GYMNASTICS".
In addition the serum has his sense memory and mind moving at maximum capacity to figure out anyone's fighting style in seconds and mimic it back. Ala Taskmaster.
This match up always gets people hyped up even people who don’t read comics lol
naw if people read batman comics they would understand that this is easy batman win
@@aaDryBonesread cap comics
Physically Steve takes EVERY category period. That’s what the SSS does. Cap is the peak of human evolutionary potential in all areas. To be above Cap by definition makes them super human. Steve is the fastest, strongest, most agile, most durable, along with the greatest endurance of any human who has ever lived or will ever live. Not just for his body type, he is as strong as a 350 lbs body builder on PCP while being as agile as a 90 lb female gymnast for example. He is technically not superhuman because it is possible for a human to achieve his abilities but it is impossible for one body type to achieve this in all areas so he should be considered enhanced. Batman is human perfection for he’s body type but their are humans superior to him in areas such as Nightwing’s agility. Unarmored is a cage Steve dominates, standard gear ina random encounter Cap mid to high difficulty depending if he can hold on to his shield or not, with prep and or specialty gear Batman.
Hes the most honed human in HIS universe
@@kubobetterrelax7435 who
That's what most people overlook in this matchup. Batman is at Peak Human capability. But thanks to the SSS, Cap is _beyond_ Peak Human. Now if Batman were to get dosed with the same procedure, then forget it, Batman would probably whip the sniveling shit out of Thanos. But, as is? Nah. Cap takes it.
@@JohnCastleSmokeless oh will he beat Thanos. At this point your on his dick
@@JohnCastleSmokelessno, he would get squished by thanos
This is literally the first cap vs Batman arguemt I can agree with thank you for realizing and emphasizing that Batman is more of a environmental fighter, so yes his tier, fighting ability does depend ware fights takes place.
The problem I have with Batman is that all of his best feats are pure plotarmor. The thing that's supposed to make Batman "cool" is that he's supposed to be a human with normal human limitations who still manages to hang with top-tier heroes and villains. But then you look at his best feats and they're all things that are, by a very wide margin, completely beyond the realm of possibility for a normal human to perform. He lifts far more than the strongest men in the world who are roided to the gills. Somehow, even though he's weighted down with all his gear and literally wearing a parachute (his cape), he's able to run 2-3X faster than the fastest olympic sprinters who got their times wearing little more than running shoes and booty-shorts.
His feats are CLEARLY at metahuman level, but they refuse to call him metahuman because that contradicts the premise of his character ... and this is why it's a cheat because his feats are also a contradiction to the premise of his character! If you take Batman as he is written up and supposed to be and only count his non-plot-armor feats, he's a pretty good street-level hero with a lot of money and a high IQ who wouldn't stand a chance in hell of beating Cap any day of the week.
Batman's willpower & determination is a bitch to deal with. Lol that's why I love him.
You do realize it's the same thing for cap right? He started his career as peak human but over time his strength and speed was exacerbated to superhuman levels. Cap is also no stranger to plot armor as well but yes I agree the plot is strong with Batman.
@@Rdc_Dom cap has an excuse cause hes a super soldier he aint a normal human batman is just a normal human
Batman is not normal human he train his strenght, mental and brain to unclock another sense
He unclock hypotasis prediction
How i know he unclock hypotasis prediction? Because he can dodge deadshoot bullet and omega beam
He not just dodge it like “yeah this is easy” but he calculating how fast omega beam/deathshoot bullet
That call is hypotasis prediction he predic all possible lity in a second time
Marvel fans says “plot armor” because you are dont read his story, what he learn and what he can do
He not only the guy learn teakwondo/muaythai but he meditation to unclock another sense to make his sense better that all about batman is try to get power not like that all heroes superman get power because his species, captain get his power instant because serum, thor because he is god and other
But batman he try to make him self better in real life that is true that human can unclock six/more sense batman train not like little kids he must suffering
If you dont know about hypotasis prediction you must watch the equalizer there is you will see how batman fight (that is not batman but how batman fight really same with him)
he's also a fictional character
I remember this from death battle I see Captain America winning this.
Cap in a hard fight
@@eivor3975 Bro, pls shut up, stop being a Fanboy and be more objective, that nobody listens to you
@@eivor3975 Inteligent and far more experienced? Yeah, suck this
@@eivor3975
I agree a lot, I can definitely see Cap winning this fight hands down. However, as long as Batman has superior tech & that annoying plot armor, Bat takes this.
@@eivor3975 most of theese Batman Fanbobys are like 12 or musty dudes who smell like shit 😂😂
Batman beat Cap twice
Good video man. I don't disagree necessarily with anything you said.... however, I don't see Batman engaging with Cap in an open arena or environment. That's not how he operates, he's the Dark Knight man. Taking Batman out of the city would be unfair to him because that's simply where he operates, unless theirs some global threat and requires him elsewhere. It simply WOULD happen in the city whether it be in NY where Cap is, or in Gotham where Bats is.... Batman is also more unpredictable. You never know how he's gonna beat you, because he's the ultimate strategist. I think Batman takes him man, I really do. It's a close fight everytime, but I think Bats takes him down
CA's Defense is too good. Batman and Cap's Fighting skills are close but Cap's reaction speed is better. Batman has better weapons and is a little better at fighting weaknesses. Captain America random encounter CP 7/10 2nd meeting Batman 6/10
I agree with everything except the second meeting.
@@PantherCrane Do you think Cap wins the 2nd meeting 2?
@@jprice6419 imo he does
@@too_official6194 he probably meant “more”
@Michael Terrell II A prepared Doom stomps! A prepared Reed stomps! So..
I think pretty much everything you said is about on point 1 things you messed up on though Captain America is from Brooklyn New York you can put him in a street fight in the city he's had fights with characters that act like batman in cityscapes.
You touched on it a bit but I find that an open field in this fight definitely favors cap, although he wouldn't be able to use his shield as effectively. In an open field I think batman would prioritize getting to better ground as apposed to fighting head on
If it's a random encounter, Steve wins, more times than not. If both have full preparation, and knowledge on the other, Bruce wins, more times than not.
When Captain America and Batman fought they called it a draw. Batman said they were equals and could fight all day except Captain America would ultimately win due to not fatiguing.
I dont count crossovers. Pretty much popularity contests.
I think on neutral ground, Cap definitely wins. He's just too strong, quick, skilled, experienced, and tactical for Batman. Like you mentioned, Cap is so skilled that he's literally been able to box Thor himself and defeat Iron Fist.
In the city, I'd give a very, very slight edge to Batman just because that's more his environment. However, I do think there's a strong possibility that Cap would be able to quickly adjust to the city fight due to his insanely intense training regimen. So if he pulled out the victory there too, it wouldn't surprise me.
So many people don't realize just how freaking insane Cap really is...
Lol, Batman is more tactical, more skilled, and definitely a better fighter, extremely quick, and in strength they are probably pretty much equal (the comics version I mean), in the Cinematografic Universes is other thing
So Cap can beat Batman, but Itachi cannot? LMFAOOO
He’s a troll
@@DarkCloudNC itachi cant
@@batman795 you’re mistaken. Batman’s close behind but cap is the better version
@@achimpanzee9210 He can
Rooted for the OG in Red, White, and Blue. Without environmental advantages i knew he would take it.
On neutral turf, I have Bruce resorting to more brutal tactics taking out cap with his gear 5/10
people always leave out Batman's strongest feats when talking about this.
Batman has strength feats such as benching over 1 ton, moved a 23 ton boulder and ripped the door off a plane mid flight which requires at least 12 tons of force. Cap still probably takes strength by a tiny bit, he's more consistent.
Durability def goes to Batman especially with his suit. Took a beating form RF and kept getting up, tanked hits from characters like Darkseid, Superman and Wonder Woman (WW without his suit) and survived a 28H gauntlet that only ended because no one wanted to fight him.
Combat Speed is close as they both dodge bullets but Batman has also reacted to speedsters and was faster than Deadshot in a quickdraw.
IQ and battle IQ is Batman, I don't think I need to explain.
Same with gadgets
Experience is Batman also since he trained in the league of shadows for 12 years
Batman wins mid-high diff IMO
You think benching 1 ton is a top feat for batman?????
😂😂😂
@@BigSirSplash 🤣🤣🤣
Cap lifts like 20 tons
I agree Cap wins
He also thinks BM wins in city.
batman wins.
Batman wins not cap.
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 Invalid
We can all agree that no matter who wins both of these guys are going to have to give it their all.
For me I think it's 50/50. Either could win.
I don't think there is a right answer. It's just too close.
Facts Batman fanboys will always say otherwise tho
And you know what batman is my favorite character in all of fiction but I couldn't agree more this is 50/50 between batmans skill arsenal hax durability speed and iq/detective deduction and mental skill and willpower oh and all of his insane inhuman feats from across comics and caps experience in war and fighting lots of skilled oppents aswell as physical and mental ability in terms of punching higher than peak human and sheild and overall benefits he gets from the super soilder serum
Batman also knocked out green lantern with a jab
Batman low diffs is the most dumbest shit I hear people say
Batman, Nightwing and Red Hood(Dc Comics) vs Cad Bane, Jango Fett and Boba Fett(Star Wars).
I think Star wars beat Bat-family. Cad Bane is very impressive and of coarse the Fett Armor is scary powerful.
Cap wins this 9/10 or better, I think the better fight would be Batman vs Daredevil
Uhhhh sonic batarangs!
@@thecapedcrusaderofgotham4133 Batman could use that to his advantage but you’re acting like daredevils never dealt with his weakness being used against him
@@achimpanzee9210 I meant that as more of a humorous statement. I’m aware he has compensated for the weakness in the past. I was responding to Diablodon when he said a better fight would be Batman vs Daredevil. Daredevil is marginally faster, more agile, and more environmentally aware due to senses. Batman is a marginally better fighter, stronger, better tactician, smarter and has better equipment. Batman vs Daredevil would be at worst a 9/10 in Batman’s favor. A better fight would be Nightwing vs. Daredevil.
@@thecapedcrusaderofgotham4133 you’re seriously underestimating daredevil here. I don’t disagree that Batman wins but it’s definitely not a 9/10 on Batman’s worst day. More like 7/10 to maybe 8/10 mid to high difficulty.
@@achimpanzee9210 I appreciate your opinion. He’s a good character. He just doesn’t stack to Batman. Batman has just so many tools. If they were in civilian clothes and fighting in a cage match then I could see 7/10 or 8/10. Batman with his suit and utility belt is just too much. Frank Miller really revolutionized both characters. Man Without Fear was amazing. I like Bendis and Quesada’s takes on the character.
Cap knows all forms of martial arts Batman has mastered all known martial arts.
Cap Mastered all too
I think I would add Batman’s stealth and the batcomputor to the hax category, and I think that would be enough to give him the edge for hax.
This is definitely a difficult match up to decipher. The one thing that I feel is a misunderstanding with people's opinions in this case is that physically and mentally Cap'n holds a solid advantage. His strength, reflexes, and thinking speed trumps Batman and any of his gadgets. If I explain this in a game of chess terms, Cap'n is 2 moves ahead of any move Batman may make. Batman is definitely fast and super smart but all in all Cap'n is faster and thinks faster with very similar level of intelligence.
I have to disagree with the 6/10 in the city part because if it were to take place in the city then Cap'n definitely has a gigantic advantage with his shield trajectories. If Batman tried to zip line his way out for distance then Cap'n can simply cut the line or at least make Batman miss his mark by having to dodge mid zip. And even if Cap'n were to separate from the shield, his reflexes mixed with is strength and combat/movement speed is way faster than Batman. Again, the thinking speed along with all that is just too much for Batman.
Batman is peak level human while Cap'n is super human. That alone should be enough to understand that Batman can not handle Cap'n... even in a city setting.
A peak level human with mastery of fighting and strategy intelligence vs a superhuman with mastery of fighting and strategy intelligence.... think about it!
Keep in mind, Batman has fought and beaten super humans with only his fighting skill,No gadgets. Batman has also outthought and managed to hit the flash. Hitting the flash is pretty bullshit but Batman is widely considered top 3 smartest humans. Amanda waller who made the suicide squad believe Batman may be an unconfirmed meta human. Both are strategic geniuses however Batman is definitely more cunning and is willing to use more underhanded methods. Cap doesn't outspeed Batman to the point where he would blitz him. Batman's gadgets would also give Batman a huge edge on cap. With gadgets Batman wins hands down. Without gadgets(and taking away caps shield) cap holds a much better chance. 7/10 to Batman with gadgets and shield. 8/10 to cap without gadgets and shield.
@@MrMythul I really wish that was completely true! First and foremost Flash is somewhat of a goofball similar to how Spiderman is. Even Wally West Flash. He gets tagged by everybody!!!! If you deny that then I'm definitely winning this argument lol
Yes I totally agree that Batman is a genius and a super badass! The only thing I can't agree on is that Cap'n will lose to Batman. I love Batman to death, he's seriously my 2nd favorite of all comic characters under Hulk. Cap'n isn't even on my top 10 and I still can not say Batman wins. Yes Batman has some awesome feats but to know that he got taken down by Lady Shiva and got his back broken by Bane and may other reasons just doesn't show me any possibility that he can take Cap'n down. You have to keep in mind that not only does Cap'n accomplish all his feats with a basic suit that's way less protective than Batman's, but handles opponents that clearly surpasses Batman. I'd maybe give him 2/10 at the most against Cap'n. And that 2 is with prep time but WITHOUT enhanced suits.
I'm gonna be coming out with a solid video explaining this and many other comparisons because I can't keep listening to all this biased and hypocritical content. My last point is the majority of Batman's wins are with prep time. Those that he wins without are just street level thugs but in all honesty he is also prepped for them due to his ridiculous amount of training. I could list precise points on why but I feel I don't need to since I've done it already in this tread lol
@@MrMythul oh no disregard, it wasn't in this video that I went all out with someone about this debate. Ugh I'd hate to start this again....
@@jessevargas8564 Captain America doesn't require a ridiculous amount of prep time. He is weaker than bane when he is on venom. The closest comparison to captain america in DC comics is Deathstroke, a super soldier with an enhanced healing factor. Batman and Deathstroke are pretty even when they fight. Captain America has nothing to deal with a multitude of gadgets that Batman has at his disposal in his most basic suits. Including explosives, sleep gas and Neuro toxins he keeps on him at all times to deal with bane, smoke pellets, and a variety of batarangs that Batman has shown skill enough to throw them past captain America's shield. Keep in mind Batman has also been training his enture life as opposed to from the point after being injected with the super soldier serum like captain america. DC comics also scales higher than marvel comics as a whole. Captain America has abovee peak levels of strength agility and stamina, he is not immune to sleeping gas and knockout toxins. Cap is extremely capable and smart. There are a number of tactics that wouldn't work against Batman and it wouldn't be an easy fight. I admitted that people tagging flash is pretty bullshit, however Batman is still considered fat smarter than any flash. Caps main tactic will have to be separating Batman from his utility belt, as all characters of this caliber tend to do when fighting batman. With his gadgets cap won't be able to get close to Batman and cap is a primary hand to hand fighter. Tbh you sound pretty biased against cap giving Batman a 2/10 chance when they are pretty even all things considered.
@@jessevargas8564 keep in mind, Batman won't fight cap head on. He will evade cap and put distance between them until he has been able to gather the necessary info to know what he is up against. Batman is far smarter than to fight some one who is physically better than him head on.
Although I’m more of a Captain America fan I easily c this fight going either way
in the realm of such skilled fighters and super heroes, knowing "all" martial arts isn't impressive to me. So much is bloated and wasted. We have something that already showed this, the UFC. Only a few styles is all you need to make you well rounded. You just need to be proficient enough to make you well rounded. The rest lies with the fighters themselves, not knowing more martial arts.
Yes cap got a super brain but Batman still smarter
Having both trained with and sparred with, this is still difficult to call consistently, these guys are the only two white guys I admire and aspire to for various reasons, this is a family fight, I can only watch and let it come to one match no blood and call it.
I still believe that kakarot bodies Clark, 🤣👍🏿
I feel like if they’re both bloodthirsty, Batman would win, if we assume they all use their standard gear, both going for the kill. But in a normal encounter, Cap might have it🤷🏽♂️
Cap- stronger, faster, more durable, greater stamina, better at the defense
Fighting Skill is fairly equal.
Bat- better gear and tech, fairly more strategic and smarter, better at the offense
@@eivor3975 🧢 Steve isn't smarter than Batman.
@@eivor3975 look I'll give Steve the speed and strength points smart and intelligence is all Batman stop lying even the biggest cap fanboys will agree with that point. And if he's that why isn't up their with iron man and co?
He probably is faster and stronger, but not for much, and probably Batman is more agile
@@eivor3975 Flash say that Bruce brain work at the velocity of the speedforce
@@eivor3975 No, Batman is more agile in comics, there is no debate about that
I believe if Batman has all his suits and captain scaling to hulk this would be even closer
@@WallyWestEXE splash literally said it was close I still think Batman wins
@@WallyWestEXE yeah
batman scales above oversoul spectre as he could harm the trans while captain america scales above nyx in Hoi
Captain America and Batman are my two favorite superheroes.
If batman had prep time he wins no prep probably will lose in and non-cannon crossover batman wins easily because of popularity
Batman doesn’t need prep for for Captain America
@@gangstermonkey6562 well it depends on which version of Captain America but I can see some versions of Captain America losing
@@amradel9451 616 vs actual Canon Batman, I see Batman winning
Bro said cause of popularity lol
Every time they've fought Bruce is the one to back down
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I got a few. Boba fett vs deathstroke, superman(DCEU/Snyderverse) vs iron man(MCU), captain america(mcu) vs wolverine(x-man movie's), superman(injustice) vs omni-man, and captain America(the avenger game) vs batman(the Arkham game universe). Also can you do a how powerful is Henry cavill superman video?
That shield and cap's reaction time are no joke
nice video amigo, I would love for you to make a What if video about Batman taking the super human serum.
Batman has developed his mind and body as far as Bruce Wayne’s mind and body can possibly be developed. The super soldier serum developed Captain America as much as all human potential. It is a slight edge, and both beat guys like the other all the time. I think it’s 60/40 for Cap.
This is will be ground breaking
Captain America never had a fight in a city?
Batman has fought Deathstroke and lost ounce in first encounters and fought with him on many occasions and majority of those times and stailmated so him getting some wins over cap isn't crazy at all and let's put it to rest batman is a little bit above just peak human it's definitely a tie cap and batman would get wins off each other imo
Absolute facts it pisses me off so much when stupid fanboys say either character stomps the other like this wouldn't be a knockdown drag out fight. I honestly see them fighting for a few hours then calling it a draw then grabbing a beer 😂
@@Rdc_Dom lol
@@Rdc_Dom w
@@Rdc_Dom I like this
Why I’m the world wouldn’t cap be able to close distance in a city?
Awesome breakdown with no downplay on either side.
The whole batman has masterd 127 martials is imposable if he is a human chacter it takes actual masters their entire lives to master a single one and even then then they have to adapate with new sytles and techniqics
Um, when batman trained with the League of shadows they did magic mediation so in his mind were time moves way slower he could train and learn alot in a short time.
I'll bet money on Batman
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Batman is a Ninja, and Captain America is a Spartan. Take your pick.
Once stealth has failed the Ninjas fucked pretty much. Much like how Samurai>Ninja.
While Captain Ameica is stronger and faster this dosnt mean he is going to run right over Batman in a fight. The problem is Captain America despite his abilities does intend to struggle against people who are no where close to what Batman can do. And given how Batman deals with enhanced foes all the time like Deathstroke and Bane and killer croc he would use the same approach on Captain America.
For starters Batman cant go head to head straight up with Captain America due to his strength. However because Batman knows counters to enhanced foes he will know what to do to slow Captain America down. Ultra sonics and knock out gasses and electronic baterangs and explosives and many other things will have a massive effect on Captain America. Combine with scarecrows fear toxins and posion ivys spores. Combine with Batman calling in the batwing or batmobile and rain down missles and gun fire and other weapons on Cap.
Combine with the fact that he can spot Cap miles away with his detective mode and he can use stealthy attacks on Cap.
Once Batman uses hit and move attacks combine with his gadgets and tech it will slow Cap down and hurt him in time. And given how Batman has the genius IQ to give Superman and Darksied and Doomsday clones trouble the same will be said for Captain America. So unless Cap somehow grounds Batman and dosnt let him escape and keeps it straight up I dont see him winning against Batman any other way.
And its not as far fetched for Batman to beat him. Even gods know you dont f with Batman. He will always find a weakness in anyone. This will be a tough fight
This channel deserve more subs
Hypothetically if batman is given short prep is it fair to give him his freezing pellets?
I see bats knocking out cap with a high dose sedative or sleeping gas, or high voltage electric jolt of electricity
Overall bats is the better fighter, trained by the league of assassin's, trained by wild cat and mastered all forms of martial arts and switches between then strategically and super intelligent you can't compare their intelligence
Batman vs Gambit (DC Comics vs Marvel's X-men.)
We need a seththeprogramer and yfv colab vid
Yes
This was closer than I thought
Caps feats have always just seemed...bullshitty. Batman trains his body over years to peak human physicality. Cap takes a serum. Batman learns virtually every martial art known by going through grueling training with hundreds of disciplinary masters of the art. Cap downloads his combat skill from a computer. Batman spends years learning various arts, sciences and languages from around the world. Cap gets injected with liquid 'be smart' serum. batman literally designs a suit to be able to contend with as much physical damage as one might expect to see. Cap has magic metal shield that wonks physics. like...captain america is a 6 years old 'nuh uh, my dad is bigger' type argument to basically any street level character.
I think it to close really 50/50 , captain is super human but DC characters are just faster in general, normal people have high damage threshold ,
Doesn't matter, both have plot armor protection.
Sorry, but while you do have a lot of good points, I think that Wolverine would eventually beat either or even both Batman and Captain America. Neither could match Wolverines stamina. His God-given natural powers trump human training.
I would like 2 see Batman (in his suit) fight like Eddy from Tekken 7
Batman beats deathstroke he can beat captain America to
Death stroke beats Batman more
@@achimpanzee9210 and deathstroke holds back
Batman is a better fighter but cap has almost everything thing else
Disagree. Cap has more examples of more mastery of forms
@@x-rax716 link the comic issue where it says cap only mastered several. Caps learned martial arts beyond earth, and his mind absorbed combative history of 616. Lol.
What if Batman had Thor's hammer?
Simple answer - he isn't worthy
He wouldn’t want it as power corrupts
(What if)
@@limitbreaker5560 I think he is
@@batman795 lol never
What are your thoughts on Batman potentially riding the synchronicity wave? Cuz his luck and range of enemies AP is nuts
You giving Batman rainbow lantern powers and magic?
Even if Batman use prep time it still won't be easy to take down Cap. Cap can think really quick in any battle situation
What?!? If Batman preps for Captain America then he stomps! Batman and Captain American are my favorite superheroes. Cap’s best shot is in a random encounter. I believe Batman is the better fighter. Captain America kills people. The most consistent version of Batman doesn’t kill. To take down the enemy without using lethal force is much more difficult than outright killing them. Batman is aware of strikes to instantly kill his opponents but doesn’t use them. Batman’s gear gives him a huge edge. He could take out Cap with gas, explosives, poison, electricity, lasers, sharp batarangs (blood loss), ice pellets, and sonics. Batman is much more intelligent than Cap. He is a genius polymath. He can better use the environment and any tools he has access to in more creative and innovative ways than Captain America. Steve’s powers are often slept on. Some even claim that he doesn’t have any. He is in the casual 2-5 ton range. The issue even more people have is that due to feats, Batman is up there too. I’d still give cap a slight edge because of showings and the serum. Steve has to have them because all he has is tactics and physical strength. Batman can rely more on his versatile tools and intelligence. Batman is nearly Captain America physically without the serum. He would be an absolute monster with it!
@@thecapedcrusaderofgotham4133 yeah lots of stuff you listed was wrong or just lowball on both characters
@@achimpanzee9210 elaborate please
@@thecapedcrusaderofgotham4133 Captain America consistently never kills. what are you talking about? You use a consistent Batman but a non consistent Captain America
@@lxfcrt4971 He is a soldier. He killed all the time in WWII. What you may be referring to is that he arrests or imprisons supervillains. It is for story reasons. He can’t just kill the Red Skull because he would rapidly lose enemies to fight. He kills countless no name soldiers, goons, and thugs. He does have his moments when he is “crime fighting”. He is a morally strong character. The no killing is just such a huge part of the modern Batman mythology. It doesn’t work with Cap’s background.
Batman will get him killed in multiple ways but most of them involve money.
Batman's narrative within the conscious mind of humanity is Meme level bro. I just can't see him losing to cap lol
You Batman fan boys this is one sided Captain America is on a different level
Lol. Wrong.
Batman has defeated the Entire Justice league and Darkseid.
Cao can't even beat Stark.
@Batman with prep Batman isn't a B tier character.
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 Batman had prep time but yeah I think batman beats cap
@shabeo Batman doesn't need prep time.
He outsmarted Darkseid and Brainiac without pre time.
Batman is smarter, more skilled and experienced than Cap.
Cap is just a roided up grunt with a shield.
Batman wins easy.
Bruce Wayne would fund the arena and use Batman to pretend this is a normal encounter….
Jk😅😬
I like Batman more but I think cap takes it 6 or 7 times out of 10.
@@eivor3975 dodging an angry Wonder Woman insane. I do agree cap wins 6/10 or 7/10 but it’s still close
the only thing is cap can adapt in combat and so can batman so in my mind it would be a very very close fight
The comics are fun but it's no way a normal man can train his body or learn martial arts to beat a man that has been granted basically the physical strength of a Silverback an trained in the same martial arts eventually cap is supposed to take batman out. Bats is cool but they rank his feats to high
Im A huge Batman fan he is my favorite superhero, but cap definitely wins there about equal in skill and Cap has a super soilder sureum and an insanely powerfull sheild. The only way batman wins is through a knockout mabye with knockout gas or using caps sheild against him.
Lets be honest we all, myself included love batman more as a character.....but hes not beating cap one one .... not without months of prep time. But if they a fighting one one with not knowing about each other cap has it
Fair call
I’m gonna give my personal opinion on neutral grounds if they are going hand for hand and nothing else then yeah Batman would definitely lose if we give Batman prep time to the feet Captain America he actually would be able to win this fight I mean really think about it he’s gonna get opponents way stronger than Captain America But we’re not talking about superman and Supergirl. We’re talking about being and like all these other superhuman characters who should be on par or even stronger than him. Batman will be able to come up with some strategy to beat Captain America in my opinion, but if it’s just neutral grounds and yeah, he loses not neutral grounds and he has prep time and he has time to study Captain America and all that study his strength and I guess pretty much everything else then yeah Batman would win.
Iron fist and human torch are my favorite super heroes in marvel can you make a version battle between iron fist vs human torch
Wait a minute, did you just call *both* Captain America *and* Batman second-to none when it comes to combat knowledge? In their respective verses, maybe, but obviously one of them has to be better, however slightly, than the other.
Can you power-scale Strider Hiryu and Ragna Bloodedge?
We need a Iron Man vs Batman(armors of course) the truth video please
Batman in Hell-Bat armour slaughters Stark
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 Iron Man won his death battle easy lmao
@@pattouco Which is bullshit.
Batman could have just hacked Starks systems, thrown an EMP grenade, used his Hell-Bat armour etc etc. There's literally a 100 ways Batman could have defeated Stark.
Remember. Batman has defeated the entire Justice and Darkseid.
Tony couldn't even beat Thanos. Lame.
Come see me when Iron-man wins oscars ;)
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 lol I was right
@@michaelgarcia5680 about what?
how does batman's skin tight outfit have armor? also captain america did not take a full force blast from gambit.
I didn't know Cap fought Sabretooth.. What comic book issue was that?
PJO Big Three gods power scale, I still have hope.
I like Jobbers and Goons to do a video about Conan the Barbarian.
Quite honestly dont get the angle of Batman beating Cap outiside of hardcore Batman/DC fans. Im not partial to either publisher im just saying.
Could u do a vs battle between goku vs mori jin
Batman would just run him over with the batmobile or blow him up
Batman will win no matter what he's way to smart people think he would loose because he has no powers but Batman can beat people much stronger then captain America so he can beat him
Batman wins
I like this energy
@@BigSirSplash straight black air force energy
Not necessary
If it's in city I still think cap takes it, tbh i see it the same cause cap battle simulation experience throughout his life time I don't think it will make a difference since cap usually fights on streets, sure Batman can create more distance that way but I just see it the same where cap is no stranger to city fights he can also do the same as Batman this is how I feel but I do respect your opinion thanks for this vid splash
In city, BM definitely takes it. But In open field it will be Cap. So it pretty much a win win dude!!
@@gangstermonkey6562 Same senerio bro I just don't see a difference tbh eventually Batman would get worn out where I see cap using the same strategy as Batman on the streets I don't see a difference at least that's how I feel it's just that I feel that cap has the edge even on streets due to his life time, at the end I just favor cap due to his experience and also because he knows the battle ground longer than Batman But again if you feel that bat wins then I have no problem but I'm edging towards Cap battle life experiences and simulation on almost all battle grounds
@@ozzi1113 the difference is as far as pure stealth skill Batman has an advantage he’s able to get the drop on pretty high tier metas. In an open field the only win con is to outfight your opponent this removes Batman’s biggest win con. When it’s a city Batman’s arsenal is a lot stronger and his ability to gain distance and break sight lines is increased which allows him to use stealth to catch cap off guard
Absolutely beautiful breakdown 🙏🏻🙏🏻keep up the great content
Who y'all think the best prep user?
Thanos? Constantine? Doom? The maker? Tbwl?
Constantine, not the most physically strong but his abilities can contend with insanely high beings.
They've already faught
Just know that Batman took down some of the top dc assassinations he took down many villain with super human strength n even badass characters like deathstroke can't take him down...batman is a real badass...capt.america just another enhanced super soldier boy no chance against the bats....
Capt strength>>>deathstrokes
@@zwart.He ain't beating deathstroke
They are not even matched! Captain America would waste Batman easily. Captain America would also waste Deathstroke as well!
Lol no he wouldn't
Good vid though I would say while boths intelligence are somewhat relative when u some it up I think Batman's strategic mind outclasses cap somewhat as while both may come up with strategies to take out one another if this fight were to draw out batman would certainly take advantage of that time the best also tiring batman out will be a difficult feat as in the court of owls storyline batman was deprived of food for days yet still could face up against and overpower a talion who got the drop on him at full strength