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I don't think a lot of people have figured out yet how limiting the CF Express A will be to this camera. You can build in all the fast features you want, but you can't use those fast features while you're waiting for the buffer to dump. I don't know how big the buffer is in this camera, but it better be huge. Even if it is, you'll be happy for a time, and then have to waite even longer for what you've taken to spool out to the card. What we're talking about is using the cool features in short bursts, and then waiting.
There's a (fairly) new Gen 4 in CF Express B that is MUCH faster than the current version. I hope and trust that the R1 will include it. CF-A is already slower than CF-B, and the Gen 4 is a LOT faster than the current CF-A. Sony's penchant for trying to force a standard goes all the way back to BetaMax videotape, and it's going to be a problem in this camera. People have to learn not to fall in love with a spec sheet. Slow storage in the fastest camera (of its type) ever made? That's going to make some problems in the field. It's a tool, not a toy - at least for most people.
I can also tell people who have never shot an R3 that the sheer volume of stills can be almost overwhelming. It's not for the faint-hearted. This thing will dwarf that. Give me an R3 with 60mp, QPAF, and Gen 4 storage and I'll be happy.
Indeed, buffer takes about 1.6s at 120fps. If they just upgraded their CFxA from gen3 to gen4, they would at least get CFxB Gen3 speeds.
Can anybody explain why such a fast camera should still support slooooow SD cards ??
It would be a dream for many if an R3 MK2 actually had more resolution...
Well said, I wondered the same, but as you say Sony loves their own standarda
Thanks Jan. I will be gladly waiting for your review on the RF 200-800mm f/6.3-9 lens. (As well as others like Chris Kaula or Fabian Fopp or your mate Duade Paton.) That will make it easier for me to decide whether it's worth buying! Thanks again for your work!
The specs for the A9 III are insane but nothing that would benefit me personally as a stacked sensor is still perfect for wildlife photography. I see the main benefit of the camera being flash photography with really fast shutter speeds. For the 300mm F2.8, from what I have seen these type of lenses take 2x converters really well, I know someone with an old Nikon 300mm and he uses it permanently with a 2x converter and image quality is still really sharp, he previously used it for weddings and simply with the purchase of a 2x he now enjoys birding 🙂
I'm a Canon guy + I need a crop sensor for the extra reach, but I love to see these amazing technological developments, as they will nearly always trickle down to other cameras in the future. Since it might be 3 years for a Canon R7 Mk II, maybe that will be enough time ?
Thanks again.Always a good review from you.I do look forward to your review of the new Canon lens you mentioned in your video.I hope you use teleconverters with it too..
I will do it as soon as I get a lens
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I'll be looking forward to your review of the a9 III.
As an A1 and A9 owner, I am looking forward to a camera with a GS. I shoot events, sports and concerts where there are lots of LED lights. GS is a blessing to take pictures in these venues with absolute no banding. As soon as the camera is available, I will test it. For wildlife, you may have to wait for the A1II.
Yes with those LEDs this will be very helpful
3:56 That´s a BIG difference! 😯
Buffer is 196 frames in compressed RAW at 120fps as stated by Jared Polin
If this costs so much, wonder what the A1 ii will cost if it does have a High MP Global Shutter with more features.
This 196 frames buffer size was also mentioned in the event! It's just copied by Jared! 😛
Did you get any rolling shutter on a Z9/8? I think there are also near 0 chances to have problems there.
The sony comes with so many disadvantages thats is just a technical preview to what comes maybe in the future
What are the disadvantages? The one that stands out to me is the base ISO of 250, but I'm curious what you think the other disadvantages are. Also, just to be clear, I'm asking honestly and not attempting to "Stan" for Sony.. I'm kind of indifferent to Sony (I'm a Canon and Fuji shooter), but regardless of that, this is very exciting news.
@@VegasHyruler Base ISO is one, that the Buffer at 120fps only 1.6 sec. For pre captute with 1sec before you Just geht 0.6 sec after Press the shutter, slower cards to clear Buffer, only 24 MP, Not as egonomic as Nikon or Canon.
I think the pre capture should be different from pressing the shutter after that, so pre capture could be 120 and then you can shoot at 20fps for instance giving you more buffer?
@@jan_wegener i think so, but then you have to Change the Speed in 0.6 sec by Press a Button or so after Press the shutter, thats fast. But time will Tell
@@KissingTrails1 I assume, but I may be wrong that fps and pre shoot fps are set independently
I have been gradually learning Lightroom and have purchased your prosets. I have been going back over my shots from my trip to Colombia in 2019/20 and with Topaz Auto AI and the prosets I have been recovering a lot of shots that I had thought were crap. Thanks 😊
We returned to Australia literally days before Covid became an issue. 😮
That’s great to hear, thanks for sharing!
Hi Jan, the a9iii certainly sounds special, but I’ll be staying with my a7iv. I still have to master that. Interestingly when I started bird photography 2.5 years ago and dove into the TH-cam pond, most people said buy good glass and cameras will change. That has certainly in part been true, but for birds and wildlife Nikon seems to have put a lot into lens, particularly making them lighter as well as better to match more what cameras can do. A recent blog on Steve Perry’s forum on cataract surgery showed the age of bird photographers. The fast majority of these want lighter gear. I’m waiting for a lightweight long tele zoom from Sony. Thanks for the video.
Awesome the futures looking great with what’s coming out at minute
I salute Sony for bringing in a global shutter, but the proof is in the pudding. The more I learn about the details, the more I think it may have trouble living up to the hype. Check out that narrow ISO range -- 250 to 12,800? And the megapixel count is really too meager for a bird shooter. The R3 proved that 24 MP just isn't enough. The A9iii promises to be a great camera for high-speed sports. Anything else? Not sure. (The buffer is 1.6 seconds.)
My 24 MP is for sure enough!! But I know that a lot of people are shooting birds that are far away and at home they cut off 50% of the image. In my opinion, that has not much to do with photography. I think the challenge is to develop a certain degree of expertise in the field.
You can be the worlds best bird photographer and will still have to crop at times
Yes, there will have to be some drawbacks. The 24 mpix may be able to hide a bunch of that better than a hi res camera
Perhaps DxO or Topaz is bundled with it. Analog noise and low dynamic range is why it is limited to 250-12,000 ISO.
Almost 2 decades back max resolution was 16-22mp which was sufficient for scintillating birding pictures. 24 is sufficient.
PLUS Base ISO being 250, higher ISOs will need less gain = lower noise
Lower MP = bigger photosites = lower noise
In short this is a big win. Assuming Dynamic Range is as per current standards. Also hoping Sony color science is better than A1
Jan, it would be nice if you could make a video on your editing equipment and process, allowing us to understand how to incorporate prosets.
You can see some here for instance
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I love the concept of Global Shutter and congratulations to Sony for sharing this with the world. Love that the flash sync and the video features - they fixed a lot of things. That said, a lot of other aspects seem quite a bit of overkill and fancy - 120 fps. I can imagine deleting and reviewing photos being a full time job soon! Unless, we get an AI tool that recommends deletions. And at 24.5 mp, the resolution is nothing great nor future proof. And lastly, at $6000, thats a bomb, almost $1500 more than the A9II and close to A1. Maybe its a direct competitor to R3 and hence it was priced like that.
Just my two cents worth. It's images that are future proof, not resolution. Ansell Adams and Galen Rowell (and others) shot with now obsolete technologies, but their images will live forever. It doesn't matter if you have film in your camera, 6mpx, 8, 12, 24, 45, 61 or 100. Nor does the shutter type matter or how many fps it shoots. If your images are compelling enough, your camera is "future proof"! It's not the hammer. It's what you build with it.
Always great to see your video Jan!
I must say this new sony camera looks pretty amazing but while back then the 1dx markII was the best in every category, nowadays I would never go back to a "sport" camera like a 1dx or R3 or this new A9. 24mp just doesn't cut it anymore imo.
That being said I'm holding on before buying another r5 to replace my 1dxii to see if canon can come up with a r5-2 and implement some of those new features.. And ESPECIALLY the pre shooting option.. That would be the absolute best..
120fps honestly is overkill imo.. 30fps is plenty enough for me and already a pain to browse through, I can't imagine myself going through 100k+ of images instead of my 30k during my last trip, that was already taxing enough..
I would love global shutter BUT I'll probably take a small rolling shutter with a fast reading sensor like the Sony a1 over a global IF the low light /high Iso takes a hit. I see myself shooting more and more with 2k+ Iso and I don't want to go back to the days when 2k was the actual limit..
Anyway exciting time, and about time canon come up with their r1 and hopefully a new r5 with some of those new tech in it (please bring pré shooting!!)
Agreed. I also think high iso performance is more important in many aspects and a lot of advantages of a GS like no flickering or banding with LEDs has no impact for many other scenarios
Sounds like a amazing camera the new a9iii, but we just have to wait to see how it is in real life tests. Also the 300 f2.8 seems amazing, and to that price, i think it will sell very well. And about the 200-800 Canon. I really looking forward to see your test of it, when you get hold of it.
Wishing you a great weekend.
Cheers, Bjoern.
Hey Jan, it interests me more in the trickle down effect of the pre-capture feature, the rear display and the nice EVF. The same for Nikon shooters, if they’re lucky Sony will license the sensor to Nikon, and that should be on the market in two or three years. Canon has made and used global sensors before, so It’s likely it will feature in an upcoming stills camera as well. It’s exciting times for sure, for all photographers from every brand. Wishing you a nice evening 😃
Hopefully a global shutter is what is holding up the R1 🤷♂️
That could be true, Canon brought out the R6ii after 2 1/2 years, and the R3 has been out two years this month, and with the Summer Olympics just around the corner, one would expect them to showcase the best they’ve got. If that’s a R3ii or a first generation R1 time will only tell. And while both these cameras will be amazing, I think they’re true cash cow will be the R5ii. 😃
Totally
Better than a mechanical shutter and still way faster than a regular electronic one. A dream come true for sports photography and video though we are now hoping for an 8K sensor with the same performance.
Hi Jan, thanks for this update ! That a9iii indeed sets the bar and has some awesome features. With it's new price point, it clearly targets the same market as the R3 .. and I expect the R3ii might be the first Canon with a global shutter. It was once rumored for the R1, but CR was recently stating the global shutter would not be ready in time for the R1.
One thing I really don't get from the a9iii is the fact Sony seems to stick with the CFxA gen3 cards. with either providing Gen4 speeds, or moving up to CFxB they would double the speed and increase the usable buffer length.
Now I read the buffer in 120fps is only 1.6 seconds, which is huge handicap for this market I would think.
Also, the 1/80000 shutter speed would only be available in a single shot mode, and would only come later via firmware to continuous shooting.
The 24mp should be fine when you combine it with the 200-800 because that gives the same amount of pixels on the bird as the R5 with the 200-600 .. or am I mixing things up now ??🙈
For memory card I'm using the Angelbird Pro SE 512Gb, which is fast enough for me and offered me the best value for money (in fact the price was identical to a slow 256Gb SD V30 card I bought a year earlier !!) and after 160k images the Angelbird didn't give a single glitch.
Really looking forward to your 200-800 review !!! For some crazy reason, the price in Europe is exactly what I paid my 100-500 and it's (including taxes !) 25% more expensive than in Japan and US. Later this month I'll have a 10 day business trip to Japan, but it looks like their shipments start about a week after I fly home, so no option to get it from there 😞
the CFA v3 cards are Sony's method of CrippleHammering the A9III so that it won't compete with the A1 II. Sony will not be using CFExpress type B cards anytime soon I strongly suspect.
We'll see a R1 before we see a RII.
When do you really need to shoot 1/80000 second LOL...I can already shoot 1/64000 with my R3 btw.
More mp is always better. 24mp is not enough. I based this on 11 months of using my R3 (500f4 with 1.4x TC, so 700mm reach). it's OK for larger birds, but smaller birds, you're losing resolution, even without cropping.
Angelbird makes top notch cards (I use the SX160).
Note that the Aussie price for the RF200-800 includes GST and a 5 year warranty. US and Europe ONLY offer a single year of warranty, and neither listed price includes local tax. Factor that in, and the Aussie price is pretty close. The Aussie price initially caught me out and I thought we were getting ripped off until I sat down and gave it a lot of thought.
Good luck with Japan.
@@davepastern Thanks Dave ! Fully agree regarding Sony! Same on resolution .. 11 months of using the 20mp R6 convinced me to swap it for the R5, and even with 45mp, using the 100-500 with the 1.4 TC leaves me hungry for even more reach ;-)
Regarding Europe it's actually including 2 year warranty and including taxes. Strange thing is some Canon products are here (when including taxes for all) same price as US and Japan, while for others (like the 200-800) we're being ripped off. No clue what this lens costs now in Aussie$, but a year ago the R5 was in US and Australia a big amount cheaper than Europe and Japan who were equally expensive then.
Global shutter sensors are obviously the future and it’s awesome to see them finally coming to market. I personally wouldn’t mind Canon sticking with a stacked sensor for the R1 though if it means low light performance will be on par or close to the R3 but at a higher resolution like 45MP. I’m not sure what the limits of a stacked sensor are as far as frame rate but even if Canon can offer 60fps that would be incredible. The a9 III seems great but the lack of disclosure on ISO range, dynamic range, etc. is definitely concerning. A native ISO range of 25,600 for a 24MP sensor doesn’t bode well, the R3 is two years old and has two more stops of native ISO range at the same resolution and even with that extra headroom I rarely go over 25,600.
Yes, there are some concerns and questions for sure
and the R3 is pretty much unusable from ISO 25600 onwards...so, why do you need higher ISOs?
A R1 with 45mp bsi stacked sensor will be exceptionally disappointing, since it won't even best the Sony A1 that is 2 years old...
Does a9III has sensor shield? What's the start up time?
From what I've seen ,most photos at situations where there's wide dynamic range, highlights are overblown . About flash sync at 1/80000... Is there a flash at such speed?
Nice camera for thunderstorms !
A9iii---amazing specs, more than what I need. I like the raw pre-capture and hope Nikon upgrades to this. How many of us really need 120fps or 1/80,000 shutter speed. The C3 button (release mode) can be set up on Nikon as well. I am more excited about the 300mm F2.8. I am looking forward to seeing how it performs with the 2.0TC.
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Do love that rear screen. I hired an A7r5 for a week and that feature was really a standout. Future is now.
Totally
I'll never own one, but I'll be excited to see a review!
I think it will do great for the users it was intended for. But for wildlife, no. Like you said, cropping is essential for wildlife and 40mp for me is the minimum resolution I would ever consider. Landscape photographers however, can utilize the a9iii quite well with image stacking to gain resolution and it would work quite well. But other than that I'll be staying with the a7R5 because the images are absolutely amazing and cropping is great.
For most....in enthusiast category, current camera lineup from Nikon, Canon, Fuji, OMG...more than enough
I’ve waited the launch of global shutters for couple of years. Nikon also filed a patent for global shutters sensor that can do 1000fps. It was somewhere in 2021. I’m sure we’ll see more of these in the near future
Gonna be so interested to see what Canon comes up with in the R1...
Re: cards, I’ve had the ProGrade cobalt in the Z9 since the day I got it, it’s been great
The memory cards I use and can recommend are: the Agfaphoto CFexpress Professional Type B 512GB in the Canon R5, with fast writing speeds at a decent price. And Kingston Canvas React Plus SDXC 128GB in the Canon R7, which is fast and yet affordable. Before I exclusively used Sandisk CF cards, but I have no regrets switching to these brands. They perform well and I never had any issues with these cards.
Will this help with the blurry video when panning fast?
If your video gets blurry when panning, you’re moving too fast for the frame rate/shutter speed you have selected
i'm soooo curious what Canon is bringing to the table, and when 😬 (as a Canon shooter)
Also really curious about image quality and DR. For me that's one thing I love about my sony cameras (A1 and A7Riii). Also I want to see how it does in low light. Could be a great event camera, especially pre-capture but those other qualities need to be on point.
Totally agree!
0:08 question: does the flash affect the image with that distance at daylight?
Yes, and all I need it to do is lighten some parts
The Sony a9lll sounds amazing which makes me wonder if the Canon will have a Global Shutter the R1 which a rumor that it might but also be around 36 megapixels according to one TH-camr. This would sound very reasonable to me as the 1D series has always been geared towards the best image quality and for high action sports. 😊
At the sony release event. Worth the hype!
The buffer fills up in 1.6 seconds at 120 fps, 192 images. The Sony rep said the 24 MP sensor allowed the global shutter, so it sounds like higher MP's are not possible yet. So I assume Canon and Nikon's first global shutter cameras will also be 24 MP. The summer Olympics are coming this summer so if Canon or Nikon have a global shutter camera ready we ought to see it before then.
The price tag is eye watering, but I have no doubt that this camera is going to sell like crazy.
A lot of people just want to have newest tech and think it would make their photo 10x better…
A nichey camera selling like crazy????
Do you know tow many 1/80.000 s exposures I put in a single frame day by day?
🙂
I'm with you. The A9 III isn't for me because of the MP -- and the price. $6K USD is too dear for me. But some of that tech leaking to more affordable bodies, especially for Canon, would be great.
Canon will not buy Sony sensors nor do they have a capable stacked sensor with excellent dynamic range.
Such a shame cause Canon colors are the best OFC
@@baredesigns1 you forget the R3, which does have a stacked sensor with good dynamic range. But it's only 24 MP. The R5 II and R1 will have at least 45 MP. No, they won't buy Sony sensors because they make their own.
Hallo, Wenn man nicht gerade Sportfotograf ist und/oder in Hallen fotografiert oder sein Blitzgerät immer in Betrieb hat, sehe ich eigentlich keine Vorteile (vielleicht kleine). Und so ein Globalshutter hat auch nicht nur Vorteile! Und ob der Autofocus am Ende mit dem Serienbild mithalten kann wird man sehen. Und wenn man mehrere Fotos übereinander legen muss um das Rauschen zu beseitigen, wird das die Geschwindigkeit der Kamera auch nicht steigern. Und dann 7000Euro für 25MP!
Das stimmt
the GS has arrived. this is a lot of camera at any price so was pleasantly surprised at the potential price. if yr already shooting Sony then this is a no brainer. Canon must have a GS in the upcoming R1. if the R1 us delayed we may assume it doesnt. the only thing i would hope for in the future is on board storage.
It’s certainly very interesting. I come from a 12 MP D700 and used to crop even those pictures. Eliminating wobbles and rolling shutter is more important than pixel count at a 24 MP level. Having said that, at this moment the Z8 might be the best compromise. But wait isn’t Canon going to announce the R5 II at the time the Sony comes available? It may just be worthwhile the wait.
They may but I have heard a few times now we may not get an R5 II until after the olympics
Already on my wishlist. I would have preferred 30-35MP over 120 fps on the A9 III, especially at $6000 for the body. Now if they will only get going on more affordable primes like Nikon's 400 f/4.5, 600 f/6.3 and 800 f/6.3. Would have liked a firmware update for the A1 to be announced too.
Yes hard to look past Nikon and their lens line up
I think it seems like 24 is the most they could do with a GS
I am a A1 shooter and I will wait until the new A1 is released as it's a great bird camera. But I'm still concerned about the overheating. My A1 taking videos overheats even under the best conditions. So I'm majorly concerned over this and hope they improved this in the A9 III and future A1.
Yes I hope the overheating will be under control in the next Gen bodies
Wonder how far this sets back the R1. Still waiting for Canon's flagship and it looks like it will be behind the tech curve at its release
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I would be unhappy with 250 ISo
Why though, if you can drop shutterspeed basically as low as you want a high base iso shouldn't be a problem?
As for the Canon lens delays . . . standard procedure. It seems all the major manufacturers are "introducing" products six months or longer before they will be available. (see also, the RF 100-300mm). At least Sony, with the A9iii, is honest about the lengthy wait. There should be new rumor categories for how many months (or years) will elapse between intro date and the date the products are available to regular customers. It is hard to get excited about new product introductions when the products are unlikely to be available in a reasonable time.
As an A1 shooter this is fascinating but nothing worth switching over. I’ll take my 30fps at 50mp all day long and we basically have a global shutter already anyway with the insane read out speeds of the A1. The first month I had my A1 I shot prop planes. I thought for sure I’d have some rolling shutter but the read out speeds of the A1 are perfect.
On a side note I went down to South Texas for a bird shoot with some friends. I finally got to try the Canon R5 I hear so much about. Wow was I disappointed! Couldn’t wait to give it back to them.
This seems like a good camera for sports photographers but no way would I get rid of my A1 for this. I’m not real sure this would be very good for wildlife, especially losing the crop factor we have with high MP sensors. I also think the price is insane for this to be honest. I can’t imagine what Sony will try charging for the A1ii.
I have preordered 200-800 and was told that it should be available in the first week of December.. fingers crossed that is true.
I have heard the same
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This is great news as it will force Nikon and Canon to produce a camera in response to this so it keeps the leapfrog march of camera development moving along. It is not available yet and it is unusual that the announcement was made so far in advance of release to market. Makes me think that Canon has something interesting coming soon and maybe even Nikon. So exciting times to be buying cameras .This will be a great Birding camera if you are happy with 24 megapixels. Otherwise the Nikon Z8/9 will still be great for any bird photographers
I hope that the Canon R5 Mark II will have a global shutter. I figure that the R1 will but it'll be much more expensive. The Sony looks great and I hope that it is everything that is seems to be.
Congratulations on Sony being first with the global shutter on a hybrid camera! 👏🏾 However, I am more excited of what the Canon R1 will bring to the table now that Sony have revealed their hand! I have a feeling that the R1 combined with their new 24-105 RFs 2.8 lens might tempt me to add that combination to my Z9 and all my lovely new Zs glass. I still own my favourite EF L glass that I can adapt so the R1 can keep me being a Canon pro since 1983! 😂👍🏾 🏴🇸🇪🇹🇹
LOL...R1 won't outdo the 2 year old A1, let alone the A1 II when it's released...PS I'm not a Sony fanboy, I shoot Canon, but it is becoming increasingly clear that Canon is struggling with sensor R&D/tech and falling behind Sony more and more as time goes by.
Would like to see a wildlife oriented 33mp apsc camera with global shutter.
I hope that the Z9 III will push down regular stacked sensors, and that that will push down other things into the even cheaper cameras that I might be interested in. The Nikon Z7 series comes to mind.
Btw, despite all the hype, this is not the world's first full-frame global shutter camera. There have been fullframe global shutter CCD cameras. In terms of performance, that's not comparable. But some of these cameras were already able to do 1/16000 shutter and 1/500 flash sync speeds (Nikon D1 for example).
1/500 flash sync speed - the old D70 !!!
yeah, makes you wonder if Sony "just" improved on the CCD sensors.
If I had the finances I’d seriously consider a switch to Sony to purchase this camera and a few lenses. That said, anyone who claims to need 120fps should find another hobby or profession. The 40fps of my R6 ii is overkill. 20fps gives me a great option for sports to catch the exact moment I need.
Well, you don't lose anything with those 120 fps (not even space on your card). Because the way Sony implanted it is that you can choose which picture(s) to keep out of a movie. So you will choose the moment you'd like to catch! It's far more precise than those 20 or even 40 fps.
But to change systems only because Sony is first with this technology is rather weird IMHO. Just wait and see. Canon and Nikon will certainly bring out their GS cameras. I assume Canon will delay their R1 once more (because of the GS)! Canon however will bring out their R5 II. It doesn't need to have GS right now! Probably GS today is only possible with 24 Mp! 🤔
If Global is as good as they say it is and it rolls out to lower-end sensors over the years I may leave DSLR. Rolling shutter is the only thing that has kept me on DSLR and I use Sandisk just because its WD and their customer service is top-notch for storage brands.
Rolling shutter impacts DSLR's too. When using mechanical shutter or electronic, rolling shutter will show up with fast moving objects.
WD customer service is awful. Try Glyph. An actual human picks up the phone and provides actual customer service.
hi Jan,
I wonder how will canon respond..
they've been really quiet regarding the new bodies.
I hope it's because they've got something good up their sleeve.
Sony announced it first but who will have a global shutter on the market first ???
r5 mk2 stacked and r1 global shutter ?
According to some Canon rumors Canon wanted to leave out the global shutter for their flagship the R1. But I guess now they will have to delay their R1 (once again).
For the R5 mark II I still think it will come out in spring of 2024! There is no reason at the moment to stop an R5 II. 😇
You don’t really need the global shutter I suppose and a well worked out stacked sensors will
Likely be the better choice for a high mpix R1
Sony claims 8 stops if Dynamic Range. However using Sony 200-600 on A1, I was unable to shoot video using IBIS as camera did NOT allows stabilization for 600mm focal length. Which was strange...
It remains to be seen if they have fixed it. Works fine for Stills though.
Yet stabilization gor video works perfectly for Nikon Z bodies with 800mm lens!
Thanks for sharing!
Dynamic Range? IBIS ? Don't get it ...
You've said everything I was going to say. You don't really need 120 fps and 24MP is not enough for birding. However, once this trickles down to the A1 II, things will really get interesting. Plus, if it costs US$6K, you might as well just wait for the A1 II, is like waiting for the R1 instead of blowing your money on a R3. Here is the thing, if the R1 doesn't come with a global shutter now, it would be embarrassing for Canon.
Since people usually crop when birding instead of using actual long lens?
Global shutters aren't especially new, and Canon have had them for some time. I suspect that they haven't been used previously at scale as there are some drawbacks to the sensor technology, such as a higher than standard base iso and lower dynamic range. I wouldn't sacrifice dynamic range and cleaner images for a global shutter personally, but I can see the A9iii being great for pro sports.
@@GungKrisna12like... often?!😁 I still crop even with z9 + 800mmPF simply because birds at my place are still far away. Not everyone lives with badass-confident birds where you can take full portrait with 400mm 😅
@@GungKrisna12 Many of us do both.
Canon only has done one stacked sensor thus far. So I feel like they may wanna show the best in that technology first and it’s plenty fast for just canwras anyways. It could make sense to give global to a clerks like an R3 ii, for sports shooters and low mpix
I’m more interested in the new 300mm f2.8 lens. That for me would be a worthwhile investment right now.
I can't imagine trying to sort through a few hours' worth of photos shot at 120fps. I get tired of sorting my photos shot at just 10fps.
Dont dream too much, global shutter is a new way to make big money, they will only put it in high end camera rather than make it available in cheap camera.
I recently changed from Canon to Sony, because of all the hype of its fantastic autofocus, and as a portrait photographer, I realised that the focus never nailed on the iris, but rather on the eyelashes or eyebrows. I showed this to many people from the industry and all could see that and I have some friends with Sony cameras that have the same problem, but nobody talks about that. You only see it with wide open lenses (f1.2/1.4) when you zoom to the iris and the difference to Canon is huge. I tested it on the Sony A7 iv and than the A7Rv and the A7cii and A7Rc!
The quality of Canon’s autofocus is just so much superior that I decided to go back to Canon. It’s all the hype about new technology of Sony, but at the end, they don’t deliver the same quality as Canon And I think you should keep that in mind when you see all the fever about Sony gear…
I have friend move canon 1div to sony a9 and he regreat it. LOL
Cool story, bro.
Thanks for saying this. Right now I’m feeling Canon is leaving me in the wind.
I switched to Sony and never looked back. Canon couldn’t do what the Sony could. I NEVER have issues with it locking on an eyelash or eyebrow. I have personally switched many friends who shot Canon for portraits to Sony and every single one of them still thank me. Sorry you didn’t have success but there is no global issue plaguing Sony focusing. Canon had to copy Sony to keep up.
@@DennisMoncla Are you saying that Sony didn't copy from anybody yet; and mirrorless camera and global shutter tech is invented by Sony?
Habra que esperar unos años a que la teconología llegue a las camaras mas baratas
Maybe the Card Type is less relevant here because of the "Internal Memory" that this camera apparently has. It could mean a lot of buffer if the camera writes to that memory first.
Gotta write to the card eventually tho
This is an interesting technology demonstrator, but there are many signs that it will disappoint in many areas. People are already talking about the buffer limits of 120 fps (not to mention that there are few practical uses for that rate), the gazillionth of a second shutter speed (only useable on the planet Mercury), flash synch at speeds that no speedlights can produce, etc. This is purely to fool the fools into thinking that one brand is superior.
Exactly!
well, the R3 dropped at USD $5.5k...the A9III isn't that much more expensive and has GS and probably much better AF than the R3. The R3, at least from my personal experience, has a low keeper rate with birds coming directly at you/the camera, certainly much worse than the A1/Z9 in similar situations.
Canon put the R1 and R5 ii back to the drawing board lol
Or the R1 gets delayed yet again and what was the R1 spec becomes the R5 mkII
My bet is that those cameras are already sitting in warehouses waiting to ship.
Does anyone really think that global shutter is a surprise to canon or nikon (or anyone else in the imaging business)? The drawbacks will become obvious as the technology develops, and the designs will improve.
Good update! I feel this new Sony is overrated by its spec sheet. I would not pre order one if I were a Sony shooter!
Good for me, I did
@@wilduntamedphotography1260 I would wait for actual independent reviews. What feature does this new camera have, that your current camera can't do?
@@Twobarpsi no rolling shutter, 120 FPS, pre -capture etc …
@@wilduntamedphotography1260 do you shoot in low light? There could be a problem with the global shutter there. 24MP is on the small side if you crop. I can't wait for some reviews!
@@Twobarpsi I am a Pro Wildlife Photographer, often working in Africa, of course I need good low light performance, but that‘s also important for Sports Photographers, which is the target user group … so I guess there won‘t be any problems.
A9III Specifications...ISO 250-25600..interesting ...not a camera for " BIFs in the mist at dawn"
Sensor Full frame global shutter Exmore RS CMOS
Effective megapixels 24.6MP
Autofocus Phase detection, 759 points stills, 627 points video, AI-based Real-time Recognition AF
ISO 250-25600 (exp to 125-51200 for stills)
Burst shooting 120fps RAW + JPEG, full res, blackout-free, with AF/AE
Max shutter speed 1/80,000 sec (1/16,000 sec for continuous)
Video 4K 60p (oversampled 6K), 4K 120p (uncropped)
Image stabilization Up to 8 stops
Screen 3.2-in 2095k-dot 4-axis angle monitor
EVF 9437k-dot Quad XGA OLED
Storage 2x SD UHS-II / CFexpress A hybrid
Weight 702g (1lb 8.8oz)
Size 136.1 x 96.9 x 82.9 mm (5 3/8 x 3 7/8 x 3 3/8 inches)
The Future only has 24 Megapixels? We are backing up!
The vast majority of photographers never print larger than 20x30. Many never print at all. Their images are shared on line. Also, though not as dramatic as it once was, images tend to be cleaner out of the camera, less noise at higher ISO, with fewer megapixels.
Haha, I hope not 😆
Hi Jan, I definitely agree with you that the 24.6 MP is a cripple hammer as regards us bird photographers. Also as this is the first of this technology out of the box I think that people could be somewhat pre-mature if they jump at it right away. In my experience it is always better to wait until we see people using them in the field and getting some feedback in real world experience. I personally will be finding ways now to save up for future release of the Sony A1 Mark 2. I have gotten used to the 50MP and sharp focus of the A1 but when the mark 2 comes out I think that it may blow our minds.
Yes an A1 II with 50 mpix or so will likely be pretty incredible
So use A.I. to pick 1 of the 240 pictures that you took exactly which one is best, Gimmicks
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As a full-time professional bird photographer I'm quite disappointed by the 24MP of the A9iii..............regardless of all the amazing new features. This isn't really a wildlife camera..................it's soon to be the best sports camera ever created.
Yep
I prefer my nikon lents and my 20fps raw in my nikon z9 with 45 megapixeles and type c cards thousand of times. Thais camera is for 1% of photographers.
I think the technology of GS is premature. GS makes the basic performance of A9 LOW.
Well Done Sony >> I am still trying to get my head around the Global Shutter is all about and what the benefit is ??Huge Price more than a Z9 for 24 M Pixels
What is the difference between global shutter and no shutter
My Question too
it should say global shutter sensor. Nikon Z9 still scans line by line just faster
Global shutter reads the entire frame at the same instant. Non-global shutters read line by line even when stacked.
@@Alpa6c Thank you for the info
@@epsonc882009 but with such price range I am happy with z9..no matter that it hasn't the global shutter
So where’s the SHAME ON CANON AND NIKON ?? I mean if it weren’t for Sony “many” years ago pushing for mirrorless, would Canon and Nikon REALLY have gone out of their way to make R and Z series cameras?
Love them or hate them, EVERYONE needs to thank Sony.
Sony said they had something to make others look silly a few years back... there it is!!! BUT how is the BUFFER???? sony always had garbage buffer
1.6 secs at 120fps apparently
def sports, low iso good, quick sending of files, lots of storage due to burst shooting, clients storage expectation. This means Nikon will get the same sensor or their own soon, i was always using mech due to the banding you got from the background Boards in arenas and LED lighting in stage and theatre. This is a game changer for the "normal" downsides. I wont make me move to sony as like all things i can live with what i have until nikon get the same sensors in their bodies.
Totally pointless features for the price of more than z9. Great technollgy but they are going mad with the price and features nobody needs... I personally need 240fps for video, not 120fps photos 🤷🏻♂️
typical Sony 6k for a lens prices are getting stupid now 12k for just a camera and 1 lens people must be stupid paying these prices
Don't get me wrong, Sony always comes up with good marketing words (in this case, everything looks amazing on paper) but in real-world scenarios, Nikon & Canon are what they say is how the camera performs, Especially Nikon…at least from my experience. Sony, tries to hide its flaws.
But, being said that, the a9 III offers some amazing features such as GS, flash synch speed, uncropped 120fps 4K, and 120fps 14-bit raw…things like that.
Yes ..sony's marketing
Photography has died, long live editing. 😞
😂
This race is just becoming ridiculous ! In 4/5 years, these specs will be commun and we'll say that something else need to be done to make the perfect gear ! 🤦
100%
Yeah. Another 10 years and maybe Sony announces lightweight zoom. Because we have only 100-400 and new 300/2.8 what weights under 2 kilos. But 200-600 is amazing. Ah, maybe Sigma will make one...
Nikon and Canon have amazing chooses in light supertelephotos (nikon pf and old primes, canon zooms with closed apertures, 100-500 and old good 400/5.6 and 100-400/5
6) but sony is not. Or u pay 3-6k$ for lenses what don't suit you 100%, or u have 200-600 what weight a lot
A7 iii is cool camera. But it's sad what rumour about 30mp is not true. And I hope sony's precapture will not so unusable like in canon r7. More like in om-1 or better. Global shutter I think good for video. For photos... Dunno, stacked sensors already good enough
But I like the progress in cameras. Like... We yesterday mind-blowes from a9 mark one or a1, and now this new jump
Cool what a1 and a9 ii users waiting updates for so long. Aaand so they don't have it at all. Like, they just made new camera. Is this because in every new cameras technologies gets up so big? Whats a problem in giving a1 autofocus in video mode...
Like the Z9 .. brought out the No Mechanical Shutter and Sony a Global Shutter
I think the global shutter and no shutter performs the same function..
FYI, There is ZERO new technology in this camera. Its all been here, just like USB4 has already been here, yet taken over 20 years. Just like CAT8, and EVERYTHING else. OLED, LED, Stone manufacturing, electronics, machinery. ...This camera features in particular...They could have made it with more MP, with zero issues...You dont think they already have 3000mm optics, or 6000mm. Its all already here, and NOT expensive to make. Its just controlled release. Its actually old world technology being rebranded and then reintroduced as new tech. Nothing new under the sun. We have been very slowly fed all the tech that already existed, and was able to produce. Just like we cannot understand old world architecture and how it is made, and we deductively try to solve it, its the same. We have had LED lighting for super long. What makes them slowly get introduced is the fact that greed wants to maximize profits, while also trying to make it seam like we are progressing it technology. Which is the farthest thing from the truth. We have regressed in all the important tech, and only made the consumable tech better marketed.
This camera is great, but in reality, this is STILL centuries behind what can be accomplished. This is just one more cookie thrown at the slaves to keep their hopes up. But we have imaginations and delusions that keep the masses wanting more. If you really think about it, technology is only limited by the mass slave income of affordability. As the level of intelligence drops, the easier it is to keep the masses occupied with stagnant tech. As long as you are still paying your taxes, and consuming junk, the control companies have done their jobs. So there is no reason to make anything better.
Wow, you seam to be satisfied a bit easy , no? by old and NOTHING new tech, and you say the price is not too bad? Wow. AND they keep the same resolution? I have to disagree.
Once you go over 25fps you are simply a videographer grabbing screenshots. Gone are the days of having skills to get shots. Now it's if you have enough money you are now a photographer letting the camera do everything for you 😂😅😂😅🤦🏼♂️
Very noisy.