HIGH ISO, CROPPING & TELECONVERTERS! | WHAT'S THE LIMIT?
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- 6400 ISO, 2x Teleconverters & a somewhat large crop, how can you that lead to good images???
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 The Challenge
0:39 Up In The Sky
2:28 High ISO
3:24 Far Away Is Better?
4:39 Surprise!
5:06 Doing It "Wrong"
7:52 AF Struggles
8:41 When you think it's over....
Hands down one of my favorite videos you’ve ever made. I love the enthusiasm and excitement over seeing the birds and getting the shots while still being informative and educational. 👏🏻
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great of video, with some AMAZING photos Jan. Love all your videos, but I really liked the approach on this video, where you take us with you out in the nature showing us your way of doing things. Hope it comes more like this. Keep up your great work, and wishing you a wonderful week.
Cheers, Bjoern
Love being in the field!
I'll try do do more, they're just normally not getting the same amount of views and take a lot more to make, so it's always a challenge :)
@@jan_wegener I can imagine that it's more job yes, and i think it's very strange that it don't give more likes. But do what is best for your channel to grow. I really like all of them anyway.
Cheers, Bjoern
Awesome video, Jan. The Rose Crowned and Wompoo Fruit Doves are definitely very challenging birds to photograph but you certainly nailed these shots. That 600mm lens is worth every cent.
Thank you :)
Thank you for this fantastic video! So nice to see you out in the field and have a look over your shoulders, how you manage with tricky situations, get some background information about these lovely and just beautiful Fruit-doves. I felt like being in nature and calming down in front of my computer. Keep up the fantastic work! Can't wait to go out myself again.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
Just beautiful!
Fantastic video. It is always nice to see behind the scenes and field photography. An awesome way to start the 2024!
Love this type of video! Tremendous images of some beautiful birds! Informative and entertaining as always!
Glad you enjoyed it
Wonderful video again Jan! Those doves are incredible
I really love these in-the-field vlogs. they show exactly how you get those amazing photos!
Brillant ! These are the type of your videos, which I like most. Your enjoyment and enthusiasm comes over directly and I can feel the same, when watching the colours, the pigeons and wonderful backgrounds.
Wow, thank you! They don't usually get the same amount of views as other videos and take a lot of time and effort, so I don't do as many, but I enjoy making them a lot
Absolutely Stunning Bird
Wow Jan, these stunning fruit doves are night and day different from our boring European city doves ;-) I mostly loved the pose you repeated at 9:39 😍
I fully understand why you took more distant shots in this case. However I recently had a slightly more opposite experience .. on a dull winter day, we found a kestrel who was fond of sitting on electricity line of a railway. We tried to approach him, but once we got within 50m he flew 100m away, and we could start over again. Using the exact same settings and angle, I noticed how much easier it was to get away with high ISO when he was closer compared to when he was more distant. So I guess the key is we can now get away with using high ISO .. as long as the bird is large enough in the frame. Hopefully I don't have to wait too long for the delivery of the 200-800 ;-)
Yes, normally the more air is between your subject and yourself the more IQ suffers
What a joy to watch! Thank you, Jan.
Glad you enjoyed it!
(Well... a lot of tiny ants crawling along those branches! The doves doesn't seem to mind them, though.)😁
Yes, loads of them!
Just wait until you ever have a bird nesting on your door!! Mites EVERYWHERE!! We had some House Finch nesting a few years ago in our wreath!!
So envious of men's strenght!! Really enjoyed your video Jan.
Thank you so much!
as always lovely images and super video Jan. Many thanks for al of the time and effort that you put into these videos and the help that you provide to the community.
Glad you like them!
Great photos ! I never saw them in real life , hopefully I will be able to one day 😊
I hope so too!
love your video's Jan! You taught me so much about photography in the last 2 years. I will do your masterclass this year.
Wonderful!
Loved the new style
Fabulous birds and some great shots. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it
Amazing photos and movie.
Wow great photos of these beautiful birds! Nice to see the settings and BTS of the shots
Glad you enjoyed it
Well done Jan, video's and photography is why I subscribe
Great video Jan. Love this more "In the action" style video, especially combined with the strategy of why you're doing what you're doing. Excellent!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Incredibly SPECTACULAR!! The Wompoo Fruit Dove with the berry suspended in his mouth is mind blowing. Such details!! Thank You for sharing. Do you think they will ever redesign the smash nose camera body??
Love your channel!
lol, I would love to have a space to put your nose
Increible este video! Excelentes las fotos!! Queremos mas videos de este tipo Jan jaja
I love this video in the field! The birds are amazing. It’s so cool to see the wildlife in your country, which I’ll never see in person. I find it fascinating to recognize the species and be able to match it similar birds in the US. Btw, love the prosets! Thanks for everything that you do!
Awesome!
Absolutely amazing video. Its like we were there! Very inspiring. Thanks Jan, keep up the great work.
Thank you!
Stunningly beautiful pictures of those fruit doves! Great technique and skill. Thanks for the video. Catherine
Glad you enjoyed it
Wow! Simply stunning video Jan. Both the Doves are amazingly beautiful.
Many thanks!
What spectacular doves and photos!!!!!!
Thanks for the pointers. Shooting in high ISO to give more flexibility with aperture and shutter speed is a handy technique. And I had my extenders already boxed up to sell because I rarely used them but I think I'll hang on to them a little longer now.
Wonderful video. Teleconverters thrive on these large sharp lenses, comparison videos with cropping vs teleconverters that just use a 100-400 for comparison doesn't cut it.
Nice shots Jan! Very colorful birds. The light green blurry backgrounds make them stand out alot. Unfortunately a 600mm f/4 is out of reach for many people do to the immense cost of the lens. How would you handle this if you had to do it with a 180-600 or 200-600 (in Nikon/Sonys case)?
Nice captures Jan, the doves are very cool looking.
They are!
Absolutely great video! Beautiful fruit dove! Love the in the field video 😊
Great! :)
great video Jan bravo.
very cool new video editing style and .. did I spot a special effect in the previous one...?!! ;)
happy new year and best wishes from Switzerland
The 100-400 to 100-500 little change over? 😀
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Another master class. Stunning images..pls do share such videos...also missing your and glens videos..
Thank you, I will
I love your "in the field" videos the best!!
They just usually don’t perform as well, so I don’t do as many
Beautiful
Great to see you having so much fun in the field, and what cool-looking dove species.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing!
Wonderful video Jan, fruit doves are treat to watch.. what an amazing colors they have. Thanks for sharing BTS.
Glad you enjoyed it
Beautiful!
Thank you! Cheers!
Beautiful birds. Hooked on the flex-shooter now I see. A great in the field instructional video, well done.
I love it
Another great video. Amazing images
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video!
Love watching your vids....always very informative and useful as I shoot with an R5 and 600m f4 mk2.
....will be paying them off for another couple of years yet!
Not had much luck using the 2x converter though as most shots come out too soft. Not sure if my 2nd hand mk2 is as good as your mk3?
Could also be the less than ideal conditions I'm shooting in as its been mostly overcast here in the UK.
Finding it better to just shoot without the teleconverter and crop in.
Will persevere and keep that train of thought that my best shot is just around the corner.
Keep those post coming.
Many thanks
Mat
The 2x TC should work very well on your lens, especially hen you use it for subjects that are not too far away.
I have used that combo for many years and got nice results.
It can help to stop down to F11
Such a beautiful bird, I wish to see them someday. Thank you for such a nice video.
You’re welcome
Awesome ❤
Amazing video Jan
Can you make a video of
ef 100-400 mk2 with the R7 please 🙏❤️🔥
How pretty are those doves! Definitely some top shots of them, as always from you. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. :)
My pleasure!
Thanks for sharing an inspiring og great video again. Awesome pictures. Keep up the good work. Happy New Year. Greetings from Per Christensen, Denmark
Thanks so much!
Fantastic photos!
Many thanks!
Stunning birds mate, would love some shots like these, Cheers, Duade
Many thanks
Great shots and explanation. Thinking about a 1.4 extender with my R6M2 + RF 100-500mm next spring or summer this year.
I loved it! We have both birds in our area, especially the Rose-crown. Your tips are nice, but I only have a 100-500. I'll do my best. We do get them down low feeding in fig trees on the Cairns Esplanade. I saw someone getting good shots with a phone! I really liked to dove calls in the background. I sure sound of spring.
Great video.. I love your fi field videos
Glad you like them!
Great shots - Can't argue with that... But... Don't envy you one little bit, handholding that artillery piece of a rig:
My arm started aching just watching you 😊
It’s not fun!
Great Video 😊
Very, very beautiful fruit eating doves. Love the video about field technique. Agree with today’s technology we should not be afraid to use teleconventers on long telephotos if the atmospheric conditions allow for such an extreme focal length. Wonderful!!
well said
Thanks......
great video and love these doves😊
Thank you very much!
Exzellent Video and a statement of using a long telelens or a converter and use high ISO for smaller birds.
Best wishes for 2024
Thanks, same to you!
This might be one of the most beautiful birds I have ever seen. Who knew that a dove could be so colorful and exhibit behaviors that are reminiscent of the respendent quetzal. It's hard not to envy your opportunity to see and photograph birds in tropical Austalia.
Thanks for discussing your approach to photographing birds in the canopy. The awkward perspective often causes me to just walk away from birds in these situations.
Yes, it's very tricky with the high canopy bird. The open nature of this location combined with the ability to walk uphill helped a lot
Happy new year Jan. With the weather we have had in South East Queensland it has been quite challenging with humidity up over 85% early in the day. A challenge for long distance shots. BTW, where on the Sunshine Coast were you? Worth a trip for those birds.
Cooroy
Tolles Video
Danke
Nice Jan, some great field photography! Last couple times I have been out I couldn't get within 20 meters of any birds, I might have to try some spots with some slightly more tame species next time haha, i'm not saying these doves are tame but they did look busy and relaxed 🙂
They were cause they were so high up in the tree, when lower they're quite skittish
Jan great video. Seeing the video birds in your part of the world (I'm in US in South FL) was interesting. Wow 2x on 600mm, I use 1.4x on 600mm with R5 (but mine is EF Mk2, vs the newer RF). Guess I need to try it and see what I think of the final photos. I always saw it was a little soft, but I stopped and never tried running the photos thru Topaz or DXO. Maybe I'll find them acceptable.
If you stop down a bit results will be excellent with 2x on that lens too
I attached a red dot to the top of my camera that helps with target acquisition. I also got a shoulder mount system to help take the weight off my arms for extended video clips.
Thanks for sharing!
Top Video 🎉
Glad you like it
❤
More 'in the field' vids please😊
Stunnning photos of wonderful birds. I can understand, why you moved from Europe to Australia. I think it is a good novelety, that you write the name of the birds.
Yes, I'll try and keep doing it. I also thing this title makes it easier to read the settings
Jan, Amazing birds and video...Thanks. Does the Masterclass come with the birds... Haha!
I can send you some files, but it won't feel the same as taking them :D
Oh no, agree with you. Someday, hope to back in OZ.
I like this one. People ask why would you spend so much on a lens. The pics speak for themselves. If you’re not making money with the pics it’s hard to justify but the picture quality is amazing even with the teleconverter.
Yes, as a pro a lens like this is a no brainer and can make a huge difference. I am using it a lot less these days, but in situations like this one it's a game changer
Enjoyed this one! What AF mode are you using on the R5 for video?
Continuous eye tracking
HI Jan, where on the sunshine coast did you photograph these birds? The bromeliads around the tree bases makes it look like an ornamental garden. Regarding tree height and shooting angles, Wampoos frequently build a nest of loose twigs on the midribs of bangalow palm fronds only a couple of meters tall. Nesting period is mid winter. Hope this helps
Botanical garden on Cooroy
Excellent video! Your enthusiasm in the field really comes through. I'm wondering how the R7 + 200-800 might have performed in this situation, for those who can't afford the R5+600+1.4 combination.
Probably quite well but the AF will have had more issues to stay on the bird
I’m jealous, Jan!! Although it helps me get big biceps haha handholding the 600mm II lens with extenders is quite tough. I do it occasionally if I’m not traveling too far. I plan to upgrade to the RF 600 f4 soon. Those 3lbs seem to make a huge difference for you!! Do you think an upgrade is coming soon for a newer high grade super tele? Just curious if you seen any new patents?
Hi Jan, another great video. Thanks fort hat.
It's really impressive when I see the beautiful nature in which you araound in your videos. I am always amazed by the possibilities and envy you. I have to come to Australia at some point.
Your comment about using a tripod for videos is interesting. I general prefer to use a tripod whenever it is possible.
I also have experience using a monopod for photography but not filming.
But what abount using a monopod for videos. Especially in conjunction with long focal lengths. 500mm and higher.
Do you have experience with a monopod for filming with a 600mm lens?
In May 2024 I will be again in Sri Lanka and this time I will take my RF 600mm f/4.0 with me. And this time I'm taking either a tripod or a monopod. I'm not sure. I save weight with a monopod. Which is not insignificant when traveling by plane.
Regards
Uwe
Germany, Frankfurt am Main
It will depend a lot on the Lens and camera whether filming from a monopod will work well. With good IBIS and IS it should work, but will never be as stable as a tripod
Informative, articulate video as usual (and fantastic photos to enjoy), thanks very much. Question: how much will you push the ISO with the R5 when using 1) the resulting bird image on social media and 2) the image for a nice wall sized print (AT LEAST 12x18 inches or 16x16 inches)? Based on my 'typical' percentage I usually need to crop in each time (which is based on the bird size and typical distance to bird I'm able to achieve day in and day out), that my max ISO determines how large of a final print (or image size) I can achieve with good IQ. At 300 pixels per inch in the final processed raw image and final print, I find that I can usually upsize the processed raw image by 50% using Topaz Photo AI (i.e. upsize by 1.5x), without introducing noticeable artifacts into the final image by the software's AI, provided the ISO isn't too high. What are your approximate, self-imposed ISO limits with the R5? Thanks much. Kind regards.
I don't hav any limits, but I start to feel a bit uncomfortable at 12800 and don't usually go above 25600. 6400 and below is a piece of cake when it comes to editing and printing at any size
Thanks for your input. @@jan_wegener
OMG! Handholding that 1200mm? You must be some kind of Terminator!
It wasn't fun :D
Hi Jan! Do you recomend to buy an r10 with an ef400 f5.6 or an r8 with an 800f11? Love your content!
The 400/5.6 is great, but because it doesn't have IS, I would not buy it anymore
"In the end I think we got some nice images..." 😅 More like perfect images. 👍👍
😀 Thank you
Jan I was wondering about a comment you made about getting more reach using the R7 versus the R5. I'm assuming that's because of the crop sensor in the R7 would have a 1.5 or so extra reach. Does the R5 not have. a dx And FX mode. I'm a Nikon Z8 user and I just switched between FX and DX when I want a little more reach.
It does, but FX mode is the same as cropping after. Whereas the R7 has extra pixels with the crop
Hi.what monitor You use when editing pictures??
Hi Jan, you mentioned that you did this video on the Sunshine Coast. Could you please share the location as I live on the Sunshine Coast and would like to try it out. Thanks Frank.
Where is this? Those birds are gorgeous as well as the trees! Thank you!
Sunshine Coast
Nice and works good with 2xTC. You shoot in digital triggermode or mechanic? or what mode is your favorite? regards michael
First curtain ES and ES
Wow, both species of Fruit Doves, are just incredible. They're like an artist got carried away, painting an imaginary bird. I'm always stunned that such spectacular animals exist. As soon as I saw the Eastern Kroel, I thought that looks like a Cuckoo, even though it is nothing like the Cuckoos I'm familiar with. I think all nature photography should not just be about technically perfect photos, because there are so many species, that are too far, too high up, in bad light, to ever get a perfect image. But it just shows how much equipment and software has moved on, that you can get this standard of photo, with all the challenges.
I totally agree. These kind of photos would have been very hard to achieve even just a few years ago
I have used a stepladder sometimes in this situation.
I have too, but to very practical there :) Too many people
Great video mate, what tripod were you using?
ProMediaGear TR344L. I love it
@@jan_wegener thanks Mate
@@jan_wegener just one more question travel tripods do you write?
What do you think of the travel tripod Heipi
@@nedjohnston3544gitzo GT 2454 I think but not entirely sure about the same
thank you again for this grate video jan ! As always... your photos a inspiring! I have a challange for you: make a good parrot shot with a 35mm ;)
Some parrots here will land on your shoulder :D
With Adobe's new AI noise reduction, I can easily make ISO 12800 shots look like ISO 200 shots in seconds. I set it to about 30% NR and it's amazing. Plus the R6 II is almost noiseless at 12800 (better than ISO 800 on the first cams I used early on).
That shot at 3:18 😍😍😍
such cool birds, hey?
Should have tried the R7 with your 200-800mm and see what you could have gotten.
PS what location was this Jan?
Nice images, although I'd hope so with a 20k lens
Beautiful birds Jan. They behave more like parrots than doves.
That's probably why I like them :D
Those dove epic got photos them in the wild but find v tricky something I've never come across follow lot of photo vloggers ..is the benefits of having both a crop and a f f .Switch them out for the light conditions .Pros and cons for best value I'd say r10 and r8 looking at a combo or say r5 and r7 v fast expensive tele and crop camera really interesting equation quality value of either option .Times when u need speed or extra reach
I touched on that topic and I felt like the crop camera AF was not reliable enough in this situation.
@@jan_wegener yes I'm really thinking to get a second camera ff for low light switch them for situations