This is How you Learn! Solving a Huge Dilemma!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ค. 2021
- It is day 2 of prepping for #gridlife and Tiffany Kelly had her j swapped s2000 on the dyno . We work super hard to find a wild problem. So it’s a super fascinating issue. One pull we can make good power the next we will lose 50hp! Suddenly and then just as simply it’ll come right back. Join us and learn how to deal with a wild issue.
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What a Challenge!! Super fun to try and solve! I absolutely love working with Tiff and Justin, spit balling ideas and showing how it all works and comes together is the best. Us as men naturally love spit balling and working through the issues, I love to learn and see new things gives us all such valuable lessons you don’t get in a classroom. This was def one of those videos and I’m super stoked to bring you this lesson. If your ever stuck this may be a good one to remember. Air fuel fire and the flow always makes you go! Thank you guys! And remember sema.org sign the #rpmact
You doing rod dogs laugh 😂😂😂👌
Justin is mad that Tiffany likes Brent, so he's trying super hard to show dominance.. "I built it" haha "I liked her first" dude wtf chill.. even the hand placement around her hip still hurting him.
Yeah but if brent would of been left to it I cannot help feeling he would figure it out rather than the owner telling brent and Jamie what's goin on I'm not being nasty it's just your car especially a Honda already in the best hands why interrupt anyways great video and job as always guys best of luck in grid life guys all the best 👍🏽
This is what I like to see on YT : tuners solving problems, not bragging about WOT horsepower ! 😎
LOL That's a Porsche 911 Turbo Fuel pump :D
The real challenge is having to deal with Justin’s level of intensity and desire to be 100% correct 100% of the time. Someone give that dude some beta blockers and fat joint.
Dude, I was thinking the SAME DAMN thing. He’s driving me NUTS!!!
The constant talking over Jamie was driving me insane
I don’t know that guys name nor do I care the way he was railroading the other guys I mean yeah it’s good to pass ideas by with the other guys but what he was doing not cool if I ever had a customer come in and start telling me stuff like that I’d be OK but he looks like you got your problem solve for yourself so take your car and go somewhere else please I cannot stand people like that
Yep. I stopped watching. :(
lmfao i just commented on the same damn thing. People that act like solving a problem is a competition, and raise their voice like that are fucking obnoxious. I am immensely less tolerant of that shit than Brent is. I'd have told him to pipe the fuck down while he's in my shop
As a mechanic myself, I can see how much patience it took for Brent not to kick off at that guy. Let the man do his job, nothing worse than a customer showing up asking for help, then making out he knows more than you. Tiffany is awesome though!
The dude could not shut his mouth, he’s a perfect example for why most shops don’t allow people in the work area.He’s so sharp but his car runs like pure total sht!
He is learning a new engine setup in two cars. If you have not noticed this is how he always is. 3 heads are better than 2. Stop hating. I would want to know everything to.
The guy was even pissing me off 😆
Yeah, i almost had to stop the video after he cut Brent off multiple times when B was just trying to explain what was going on.
@@joeburrows6 i also love how people in here are complete dumb asses not realizing the 3 of them have been friends for a long ass time, which shows how little they actually know about Brent and PFI..
Imagine someone who couldn't solve a problem before he got to the dyno, now telling the dudes who build Honda motors what THEY need to do to fix the problem.......
yeh he need to hush his skunt or go tune the car himself
I mean, they spent over 30 pulls and tried dozens of different things before they found the problem. None of them had any idea what was actually going on for most of this. It sounded like most difficult troubleshooting sessions tend to go to me, walking through each of the proposed problems and seeing if they fit the different symptoms you are seeing.
It really felt like that man and I am not hating on dude next time just be a bit less know it all just be respectful at the man dyno
@@TheNiters it's the attitude man be humble that's all I think don't be a dick because you a race car driver 😂😂👍🏽
@@anthonygibbo1881 you have 3 people that are experts on that motor, what do you thinks going to happen.. they all threw out their own idea's and worked through each one to figure out the solution, that's called being a team. the reality is they were all wrong about what was the actual cause other than it being vtec related. instead it was a single 4 cent piece of brass/aluminum hollow pin.
Justin.. when seeking help one usually tries to humble themselves.
Dude seriously tho! It's like he's got all the the knowledge and knows what's right and wrong with the car but yet still he's at PFI telling them how to fix it! Half the video had me cringing
Dude is rather annoying
Sorry guys ... owners some times need to butt out for a little bit .. when you have a train of thought and you are heading down one path you dont need some one telling you how to do your job
Dude came off as a bit annoying this time around trying to argue with the guys that build crazy honda motors all day. Seemed like he didn’t want to be told he did a bad job putting it together.
got the same thougt.
Yeah, I felt it too.
That guy was annoying the hell out of me and when I saw the comments I can see I'm not alone feeling that way. He needs to sit back, shut up, listen and learn. Seems he knows just enough to be dangerous.
Dude so annoying though. Just be quiet and let the tuner do his job...sheesh
Old mate the owner was slightly annoying this time round, sorry old mate
He sounds like he knows whats happening but cant get it done on his own! Book knowledge
LOud mOUtH
First time I've ever found it hard to watch a PFI video, I felt stressed for you. I hate it when people come in like that and run their mouth all day.
Same here. Glad I wasn’t the only one who felt that way.
Love PFI, this is the first annoying video, glad they solved it but that guy was infuriating.
Way to work it out! you can tell Justin is super passionate about the car so I understand he's wanting to get his input in. That's why we love Brent, he understands this is a passion. Other shops would probably took offense but glad you all worked together and got this figure out. what a ripper!
Something about that guy I'm not a fan of. Seems like he's always trying to out smart Brent
I agree
The owner needs to listen as well, take a second and let someone else talk. It's about teamwork not trying to be the smartest.
Passion is what i see! not ignorance. i have the same problem when im excited...
Everyone is trying to achieve the same goal. His tone just changed . We don't see it all hopefully he was appreciative of the crew when it was all said and done.
I didn't see anything wrong. Just a normal troubleshooting conversation
That guy reminds me of someone who always tries to sound like he knows everything...poor Brent had to bite his tongue a few times too many with this situation
Yer I have seen a couple of videos where you can see Brent biting his tongue..
Brent shows his maturity for sure he’s been there done that and you can tell his mindset is right. Right on for you
Sometimes there's a guy that will mention every problem on the car, sometimes it helps find the solution and sometimes it hurts and just slows everything down, Brent's and Jamie's vast knowledge and patience also helps teach, just like when owner relearned that O2 corrections are always happening right after he said fuel flow should never change vtec or not, he was stuck on a fuel problem and while it was possibly part of the problem w/ gunk in the filter it wasn't "the" problem, so he was closed off to that where Brent was open to finding the air flow actual problem. Good as always on Brent and Jamie.
Great example of why you don't want customers in the shop while your working and trying to concentrate. That guy needs to leave or shut up and let the mechanic do work
He's not a mechanic
@@projxctd4176 well he repairs broken cars, build race cars, and troubleshoots problems on cars. If that's not the job or jobs of a mechanic, then what the hell would a person that does all those things be called?
@@Airplanefish Brent's got an epic crew that spread their roles to build some crazy shit. Justin's been a mechanic, welder, driver, and worked at a dyno shop for a couple years tuning. Don't assume things your not sure about. It makes it hard to meet new people that way.
@@projxctd4176 what are you talking about? Assuming what? I said the guy (customer) who keeps getting in the middle of the mechanic (Brent) needs to leave or let the mechanic work. The mechanic is trying to work and concentrate and the customer is talking and getting right up to the mechanic while he's looking at the data trying to figure out what's going on and how to fix it. The mechanic doesn't need distraction. He knows what he's doing and when customers keep talking it makes it difficult to get work done efficiently and correctly. I have no idea what you saying I'm assuming? The mechanic knows what he's doing and the customer is in the way. It's in the video. I didn't assume that.
Brent your whole crew and that shop help them out that's awesome. Like Phong says we're all brothers from a different mother doesn't matter where we all came from where all come to get speed
I don’t know about anyone else but I cannot get enough of Brent’s uploads....
Man how does his girlfriend put up with him?
That’s his sister
Step-Sister?....
Can I have her digits? For racing advice of course....
@@Roarman57 ahhh I see
See this is what I'm talking about!! I love when you guys put your heads together and fix the problem at hand! THANK YOU for teaching us a little something today! It may not have been new for some people but it was new for me! Great job guys and Tiffany. Beautiful racecar I must say!
Justin is clearly the type that thinks out loud. I can see how that is perceived as being a jerk but he is narrating his brainstorming out loud. Good job PFI and Kelley crew for working through that issue. Like fuel tech guy said answers are in the plugs.
Appreciate that man. Glad you understand what is going on. We work together with these guys all the time. No better group to bounce ideas off of and diagnose problems.
lol one of those guys that learns something for the first time and then says "Yeah I knew that"
Oh god I’ve worked with some of those. The only way to deal with people like that is to stand back. And let them get on with it. And then when they want to actually listen. Tell them to shut up and learn.
@@mdnovaman when you suggest something that could be wrong and the mechanic shrugs and says "could be?" that means "no, dipshit, go read a magazine" lol
5:15 brent patiently waiting for him to come to the same conclusion he has already gotten too lol
As a mechanic myself I'm reminded of the chart for labor rates hmmm. Ive never hear of a rail being starved first. I could see it in Brent's face lol
I absolutely love the intro I love how you guys are always switching it up keeps it entertaining I appreciate the content guys are awesome lets f****** go
What most people forget, or were ignorant of, is that "fuel pressure" is a measurement of resistance to flow, and it will vary with fuel flow through the pressurised lines as restrictions need to have the fuel forced through them, and fuel is removed upstream.
Under light fuel demand, when most of the fuel is passing through the regulator, the pressure AT the regulator can be significantly lower than at the pump, because of the restrictions in the fuel system.
When you add in the bleeding off of the fuel when demand is high, this will add to the difference in pressure across/along the fuel line(s).
Some fuel systems are also prone to developing pressure waves, AKA standing pressure waves, within the fuel system - if the fuelling map shows some odd variations between cylinders at different rpm, it could be caused by pressure fluctuations on the air side, but could also be on the fuel side.
For these reasons, especially with relatively high flow, it's a good idea to use generously sized fuel lines and fitting, preferably with a damper/accumulator incorporated to dampen pressure spikes. It may also be worth monitoring the fuel pressures at both the inlet and outlet of the fuel rail(s).
There’s an extra TOOL in the shop today.
True that mate..dude is getting slayed in the comments section ..
@@jeffreybamford7365 I almost feel sorry for him. Lol
@@joep1253 yeah what about his girlfriend she's been embarrassed so many times it's normal for her.
@@jeffreybamford7365 judging by the last names on their windshields they seem to be married?
Love hearing people talk about torque :-) I swear some people think, horsepower is the only thing that exists :-)
I love how he went from specifically tuning Honda drag cars to now any car he can put his hands on keep up the great content and never give up on ur dream🙏🙏🙏🙏
Ok, so now I know the heads have been off ... My guess is that one head may be missing the oil Control orifices, which btw are both on the transmission side.. Fun fact the head with the hotter plugs can get that effect from a missing or poorly sealed orifices ring because that head is starved for oil pressure .. For longevity I suggest you pull the heads and go through it.
thanks I ❤️ J talk. Ty ty ty.
also explains the fucked rockershaft
@@scooz14 totally. But really by pinning they only bandaged the problem,
@@ac7205 if they keep running it with the rocker shaft disinigrating, itll wipe out the whole bottom end
@@scooz14 enlighten me on how the bottom end is to be effected. I can see head and valve damage, but not a correlation to the bottom end. Please, thank you. Solid point!
@@ac7205 metal coming off the rocker shaft due to oiling issues will work its way throught the oil system leading to premature wear of the other components.
Great video and always enjoyable to watch the process, sometimes many heads make light work but can also complicate things.
Keep it up and i shall be back
Had to smile....
Could definitely see Brent thinking 🤔 💭 too many Cooks spoil the Broth! 😂
(I can’t blame the Guy; he’s trying to learn & find out if he’s giving all the information needed, so fair enough.)
Good thing you guys are good mates & could get it sorted anyways. 😂
Kia Kaha,
Grant from NZ.
I have watched every single PFI vids to the very end but this one i just could do. Prop to the PFI squad for being professionals and not loosing it on that guy who thinks he knows it all!!
Great video, I will never get tired of watching the whole team at PFI solve problems. The best attitude you could ever have when it comes to grinding out the gremlins.
Not so sure about the owner this time around though, just let the main Honda men do that thing and get the car sorted.
Somehow it’s just not a complete PFI video without the bug pulling a second gear wheelie.
PFI is the place of the MASTER MINDS !!!! Love & Respect to you all.. Never disappoints and Always something to learn Cars, Family & Friends etc...
Please be safe out there from East Texas✌️
I love how you do all these event specific intros man, they are so cool!
The owner ain't gunna be happy when he reads the comments. Good job Brent and Jamie!
Might teach him a thing or two about being humble and shutting his mouth.
Always Great Content! Love the channel.
DUDE - these things for sure get the heat going in your blood! It can be so frustrating to see your creation struggle from a seemingly small issue like this. Loved this video!
Sometimes ya just gotta think outside the box. And the fault was found. Best feeling ever. Great job guys. ❤️
Well that was a good solve! Those guys are great people! Good luck racing!
I love watching Brent do his job!! Can tell things were frustrating but Brent is the man!!
7 am down here in Florida. Best way to start my morning before work . Left go pfi speed!!
I'm excited to see a j locked to vtec too. Haha I love how they are mirror image heads. But I've seen ones with different size valves from front to back as well if you want to look out for that
Boy that guy is annoying. He needs to shut up and let Brent do his job. He’s always contradicting everything Brent or Jaime says.
That is what happens when your drinking beers and tuning cars. Keep it for the end of the runs. My opinion of course.
right there with you on that thought
Just what I was going to say.
Poor Tiffany, I think Brent would have found the issue if the car was left with him.
Doesn't matter, Tiffany wrecked the car
@@llamacebu216 wrecked the car? How?
The cool oil has more pressure and then it works I would put anaerobic sealant around the rail when you install the rocker shaft and install a dowel pin the has a hole in it that is not split on the side
Half way through and this video is a damn gold mine!!!
This S2k looks like a track BEAST. i love your channel man I'm going to buy a shirt soon
Hey Melissa, I think it was on the east side. Also I think we lived in Avalon. Some of the fa,ily live in the north hills?
that was a tough one! Nice find! it's a ripper now
Good work guys!
Ya that owner had an answer for everything. I would of kicked him out
Great cars Justin and Tiff. Yall rock!
Man I miss working on those. I wish I had a counter for how many t-belts I have done on Honda/Ac & Toy/Lex or cars fixed. I really like the sound of the J.
You guys put in some work on this car and had a lot of patients
Always great content
Loving the diag episodes... learn the most. Awesome work!!
YEEEEAHH BOIIIII !!! Currently my favourite TH-cam channel. These guys kill it 👌💯
It takes all kinds to make this world go round.. just remember to show a little compassion and patients like these two fine examples of human beings did for there repeat customer.
Awesome job Guys..
Holy crap that was confusing. Never fails to impress the issues you find and solve trying to make power. But figured it out in the end!!
My dad had spare valve covers with tops cut off, with inner tube, screwed on it. so he could watch valves with engine running without getting oil everywhere. with Vtech, that might be good thing to have.
Love the videos as always Brent❤️
Perfect timing, Lets goo !!!
Should have tuned it elsewhere as he obviously knows more than the tuner shop guys….
We just dyno tuned a j32a2 swaped eg. Had the same issue where it would make power then the next pull it would be way down. Ended up being the throttle body being stuck at about 80 percent. Soon as we noticed it picked back up. Also vss wasn't working so vtec was not engaging.
Hell yeah!! Awesme shirt, ordering a couple right noe
Wow Brent you and the PFI guys are the best, Tiffany was very respectful kind and informative on tech. But that other driver man, you are a extremely patient man, I would have shoved a sock in his pie hole! Hope you charged him accordingly!
this is awesome
Love it !!!!
Out of all the talking buddy did Tiffany had the best idea 💡
"Could it be something mechanical? Like do we need to take the valve covers off?"
See it takes a team of great friends who can work with each other without fighting
Mannn, I am so in love with this woman lol she is just plain BADASSSS and knows more about cars and how to drive them than I do!!! Lol
If it was me that was working on this guys car I would have just pulled my stool up to my box and looked at my phone until he went away. You brought the car to me to tune, I don't need your input on how I should be doing it.
Or charge him more per hour than the normal rate
For some reason the chatterbox reminds me of that I AM SAM movie😂😂😂
I'm not usually a fan of the sound of a v6 but damn those sound awesome!!
26:15 I love all those hands under the hood! A++
I wish I could subscribe 700k more times. I love your channel and keep rocking brother!
It technically could possibly matter where the roll pin is depending if there is a oil galley from the pump in the block at all 4 locations or not
Air filter directly behind the radiator is always a bonus to hp 🤣
Brent keeping intros fresh and these hot rods fast!
Your the man Brent !!
Amazing a roll pin could do that much!
You guys have got some real patience
Let’s gooo!!!
Now that’s team work boiz!!!
Torque wins races 🏁🏎 stay RAD guys ✌ good job tracking down that bug 🐛🐞
33;30, looks like Poker night on a 55 gallon fuel drum, hahaha..........
That was a hard watch, the first PFI video I've had to turn it off before the end
I saw who's car it was, skipped along to see if it changed, then stopped the video. Not sure why, but not enjoyed any of the content this guy is in. PFI guys have a slick way of working through issues, this bloke seems to enjoy throwing a broken spanner in that.
It's nice to be smart, but smart to be nice. Someone needs to learn that.
I would determine accurately what the oil level would be if your talking a factory stick half quart down is good. I wouldn’t send an oil change out like that because it burns so much oil in between when most people extend past recommended interval. Oil level is critical on this style car… I recommend oil accumulator for cars going through long sweeper. Understand I’m not saying more oil is bad just more oil than the proper level is highly critical.
Now that’s how you “adapt and overcome!” (Jeremy voice)
Mean vid...I was thinking a spring had cracked/ collapse..
Isn't it always sweeter when you got to work for it 👍
This is awesome, car is super dope.
Wow, Justin was extra abrasive this time out, he even made Tiffany take the blame for the engine build after all the issues. That was hard for me to watch, all I can say is that Jamie and Brent are true professionals and respect their customers. I get it, when you are competing and become part of the cars your driving, there is a level of intensity to yourself, there's a connected feeling to the device, and this certainty you feel because of that connection. I think this is one of those times that the intensity caused a backfire and only multiplied the issues and extended the time it took to resolve the issues. In this video, I felt like I had fallen off a bike and been sliding on asphalt the whole video, with some stones here and there to add some bounce to my slide, and by the time we made it to the end of the video, the shameless plug was like rolling thru gravel.
Step 1 add another 02 sensor one for each bank
Awesome to see Justin and Tiffany back again. I love their energy with the PFI gang. So rad!
Awesome video Brent! Definitely one of the more difficult problems to diagnose. So glad we could all work together and get it figured out! PFI SPEED FTW. Miss you guys already, what an epic week!
Sweet car man, hope you guys do well with it!
@@mikescherrer4923 thank you!
Everything else being even,the lighter cars will be easier on tires if they don’t spin them. Also brakes on lighter cars will last longer.
Hide the red bulls next time from Justin he firing faster then the spark plugs in the car lol.
Shit hide the blow