Delonghi Pressurised Portafilter Designs.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- This is my quick video looking at the changes in design of the Delonghi pressurised portafilter baskets with the different machines I've owned.
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Thankyou so much! my partner was cleaning the machine last night and I desperately wanting to coffee this morning, and I found your video!
Thanks for the hints on disassembling the filter.
Glad it helped.
Thank god for this video! I had no idea why my filter kept backfilling and blocking! Now I know how to fix it! Legend!! Thank you so much for this!!! 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
Thanks for your kind words...glad it helped.
Thanks! I've got the older style one and couldn't figure out how the water got through, I didn't realise there was a valve. I really like the coffee from the machine and it's lasted many years
Thank you so much
The valve and spring portafilters work really good. The other type makes fake Crema because the liquid sprays out the single hole in the bottom and makes aeration and foam.
Hey hey hey all, after brewing with the valve/spring pf, my pucks are puddles. Espresso tastes good though, nice crema and hot temp. Does the puddle on top happen to you too? Getting pretty coarse with my grind. Started at the finest on my burr grinder
I'd advise maybe tamping a bit firmer with a coarser grind and underfilling can cause this problem too so maybe fill the portafilter a little more so when you twist it in place there is no gap or little gap between where the water comes out and the compacted coffee.
@@JohnnyWuzzisname Yea the pucks stay a bit wet in the portafilter. I ended up buying a knock box and I give it a few taps to empty out the filter and then rinse it out. The pucks do come out a bit wet still. If you grind too fine water will have trouble going through the filter and will be a bit slow. If you grind too coarse the coffee will seem weaker.
@@JohnnyWuzzisname You want an espresso machine with a 3 way solenoid which sucks out the excess water and leaves you with a dry puck. But a 3 way solenoid requires a lot of maintenance and tends to get clogged with hard water deposits. So I actually think knocking wet grounds into your knock box is the lesser of two evils. We keep our knock box in the sink which helps with splattering.
@@tomboyer5608 I'm glad to know that it isn't necessarily a malfunctioning machine then, cheers!
I have learned since posting that if I use the steamer after brewing my 'spresso, it dries the puck out. So I make capps or frothy lattes, or just blow off some steam
Very helpful thanks
I have 2 problems with the pressurised baskets: the filter can be tapped out with the used coffee puck, which is a bit messy, and the single hole in the basket gets clogged too easily. For greater convenience I use the 2nd type.
Thank you
I wish to know what filter make better coffe????? i already have a filter with one hole and consider bying a valve filter
The newest version are the easiest to use...I haven't noticed any taste difference when using the pressurised filters.
Helppp if i take of the rubber seal can i use it like that ??
I think other modifications would have to be made...there are video's on TH-cam showing how to unpressurize a Delonghi portafilter but I have never tried.
can you tell me how you clean the sealed baskets, you mentioned running water through them, is this as if you are pulling a shot, or just normal tap water.
Yes I would run them through the machine to clean them.
I have the icona using the portafilter you holded first. Do you advise replacing the pressurized basket and portafilter for a deeper taste? Thank you!
Yes that's a good idea...I haven't got round to trying it myself but others have and said it makes a difference...It will take a bit more time and effort to get good results with the unpressurized baskets though.
I am using delonghi la specialista it was okay for first few months but now my single portafilter basket cannot extract espresso at all. Double shot basket still works fine though!🤔😒
Are your baskets sealed or the type you can take apart?
@@dmcerrrmmmm type i can take apart. I rinsed it everytime i use it.
If the basket isn't blocked...the only other cause would be overfilling or tamping the coffee too compact.
Love my Delonghi. My filters are the ones you show in 3:10!!
Now, altough the coffee machine builds pressure, the coffee doesn't come out!! I thought about cleaning the filters since it's building some kind of vacuum that doesn't allow to coffee/water to come throught?!
What shall I do? Thanks for the video!
I'd run them through your machine with no coffee in...I think that is the only or best way to clean those baskets.
@@dmcerrrmmmm tried to do that.
Not even a drop of water fell from the "single coffee" filter!! And to remove the filter holder was very hard. The pressure built was very high!
Are you grinding your coffee too fine or tamping too hard... pressurised baskets do not like it espresso fine and don't tamp the coffee just level it off in the basket.
I’m having the same problem! Water comes through fine with no coffee added…but when I add coffee nothing comes out?!
Your coffee needs to be less fine and dont tamp the coffee too much just level it off... pressurised baskets do not cope well with espresso fine grinds.
Hi, im using the Delonghi Dedica and i can make espresso shots using the 1 shot basket, but when i change it to the 2 shot basket, no water or espresso comes out. And it is pressurized and difficult to remove the porta filter. How do i solve this?
Try less coffee in the basket...over filling or over tamping will stop water flow causing a build up of pressure if you wait after the machine has stopped for a few minutes the pressure should subside and the handle should release without spraying coffee everywhere.
My guess is you're using too fine a grind. Remember pressurized you can get away with slightly coarser grind. I aim for a medium-sand consistency (which is 6 on my old Gaggia MDF).
Also, with a pressurized portafilter, you do not want to tamp. Just measure in loosely and use your finger to knock off any excess. You'll get a better shot untamped.
Hello boss
Can you help me to find out which number of portafilter perfectly fit in my delonghi ec860 machine?
I lost that due to cleaning my house
Most Delonghi's are a standardised 51mm basket.
Thank you for the video this is what I was looking for. What is the make and model for the last design pressurized filter? I have the second design and my coffee is tasting pretty bad lately. I have tried to clean with soap and pressure with my palm, now I am thinking that may have been a mistake because the water flows too freely when I make a shot and the coffee tastes weak and bitter. I want to get new filters that I can clean properly and the last design seems like the best option.
Yes the third design are excellent and are definitely the best design to buy...I never liked the look of the second design and have never really used them.
I got the last design with my delonghi dedica machine
i am also using second one. I think the taste changed because there is powder in the empty space between the filters. i cant clean it. so i will buy unpressurized filter
I got new rubber seal design. They are easy to remove and clean but one major issue with them. The rubber part develops bad small after some time and it can go into coffee.
Anyone know how to clean them properly?
I've never noticed a bad smell and I use mine a lot...soap and water would be my guess... I'm not sure if the rubber part detaches from the filter to clean as I've never tried for fear of breaking it.
The seal seems to be silicone rubber so it's super durable and doesn't smell. I.e. it's not the rubber, it's just coffee oils. Just use a drop of diswashing liquid and a sponge. And every couple months disassemble the assembly and soak it in Cafiza which is a detergent that is great at coffee oils. It probably wouldn't hurt to run the silicone rubber seal through the dishwasher every so often....
How many grams of ground coffee do you find works best in the Dedica double shot basket?
I dont personally weigh my coffee but I've heard people mention between 12-15g for the double basket.
How can you remove the rubber so easy like that, I’m struggling with it
Probably because I removed them quite often to clean them...maybe try putting them in hot water before you try to remove them...hopefully yours are the same as mine...I don't think they produced non removable versions of these but be careful that you don't rip the rubber trying to remove them.
dmc...errrmmmm coffee reviews thank you so much I tried hot water and it worked 🙏🏻
Great...glad to help.
does the newer portafilter fit on the 1st version portafilter holder?
Yes I think so I honestly never tried but they are the same width so they should...the old baskets won't go in the new portafilter holder though because they are too big depth wise... I can check my old machine for 100% certainty for you if you wish when I get home later.
thank you for your reply. so kind of u. i loss my old portafilter, and it is ao hard to find a replacement. until recently i found one on aliexpress. they have both the oldest version (which is similar to the one i had) and the second model u showed. another youtune video says presurrized in not very good as it aerating the coffee and makes what is somewhat a fake creama. but i never have experience with non-presurrized portafilter. Thanks anyway, your video is very informative!
Yes I have heard people say they were trying out non pressurised baskets but not sure what results they had...and I haven't tried them myself yet but will try to in the future...if you are in the uk and can't get the right ones I've still got my old style single and double portafilters I no longer use if you would like me to send them to you.
thank you for the offer. i appreciates the kind gesture. but i resides in Malaysia, so i think it is okay. The video and your answer is already adequate for me to make informed decision on what i should try next. Cheers!
I have a delonghi machine (ec221) and i would like to buy a tamper. how many millimeters must the tamper be? thanks
5cm in diameter.
@@dmcerrrmmmm should i go for 51 mm or 49 mm tamper?
I think 51mm will be fine.
What’s the exact mm tamper size. I hate getting uneven edges. Is it 49 or 51? Thanks for any responses
Good information I have the new ones as well really decent have you ever used ESE pods?
No I've never seen them anywhere in the shops...i dont think they are popular in this country maybe they are easier to get hold of in other countries...ive never searched online for them but i think they are just like a small circular tea bag from what I remember... thanks for the tip off on the Lidl coffee... I went before and they had 2 Ugandan's and 2 Ethiopians on the shelf which both had the seals on the barrels broke but i picked one up anyway.
@@dmcerrrmmmm Yeah they seem to be more popular in Holland and Germany and no bother decent that they still had them I wished they stocked them more often and not just around Christmas
I just realised its ground coffee... I automatically thought it was beans like the Ugandan i got last year.
dmc...errrmmmm Yeah my Honduras was ground coffee it was nice very fruity
Hello, I have a delonghi ec 230 bk, and the coffee comes out very thin, I filled the spoon full of coffee but again the coffee comes out very bad
What coffee grind size do you use?
thanks for the video, as previous comments, prefer not using the rubber seal baskets as they are geting clogged easily even when not tapping hard or grinding fine. the taste of it is watery and only when using the regular one it tastes well
Do you know what alternative filters would fit in replacement to the EC152.CD's stock, pressurised filter?
Any 51mm size portafilter should fit...most espresso machines use 58mm so Delonghi portafilters are smaller and there are plenty of unbranded ones available.
Solved a big problem for me with your explanation! Thanks!!
Excellent...glad it helped.
I actually found the rubber seal in the new filter a bit problematic. When you fill the single filter with 7 grams of coffee, the tip of the rubber handle still sticks out and that causes channeling when you press it with the tamper (it's pressed and then comes back and creates a cavity). Didn't you see this happening?
I always fill the filter past the rubber handle.
Me too
That might be a downside to trying to modify a pressurized portafilter into a non-pressurized. If the coffee isn't a uniform thickness across the portafilter I could see channeling at the edges. However, other people seem to be reporting that this method works so maybe you just need to grind a little finer.
I'm personally dubious about the whole pressurized-vs-nonpressurized thing. I've made espresso for 25 years and done a lot of both, and come full circle on pressurized. It's a super easy way to get consistently good coffee. The additional benefit from non-pressurized is a case of diminishing returns - every now and again you score a "god shot" but all the stars (grind, tamp, freshness of grind, temperature) have to line up perfectly. The problem is all the other times they don't line up and the non-pressurized setup means channeling and awful espresso or overgrinding/overtamping which results in no coffee at all. Nonpressurized, for me, meant a lot of bad shots and wasting a lot of coffee dialing in the grind. I hate to throw away coffee.
On the pressurised rubber valve version how does the water leave the basket?I can’t see any hole at the bottom.
It has a tiny pin hole right in the centre of the basket.
@@dmcerrrmmmm
Many thanks! I will need a magnifying glass!
To check its not blocked I put it up to the light to see the hole.
The plate for my basket is missing, how do i get it, and what exactly its name 4:40
Not sure exactly what the name is...but its a delonghi portafilter metal insert filter...not sure if you can buy them on their own but it may be worth checking ebay before contacting delonghi.
Great video. Precisely what I needed to know!
Thanks glad it helped.
vc teria para enviar no brasil estes filtros?
when you do your coffee review can you show a video making them great job
Thanks mate... I will try... I think I will do a follow up to this video showing how to fill the portafilter and tamp... also how to tamp with different grind types because these pressurised portafilters can be a bit temperamental at first...and then any other tips when making a cup using them...but I'll try and incorporate this all into my review of the machine I'm using at the moment at a later date as well...but I like the idea and will try and add making a cup in my coffee reviews and change it up abit this year...thanks again.
cheers, love your videos
Thanks mate... I've just got a coffee called 'very strong coffee', only a small amount sent to me so I'll try and give some tips on making a coffee using the portafilters in that review...so keep an eye out for that one.
Life changer, I saw the rubber handle but I thought it was glued down since pulling was not doing anything..I just pulled harder with pliers the first time..and it came out revealing all the coffee inside..damn, many thanks..I still feel an idiot hahaha
Thanks...glad it helped...imagine the build up in the sealed ones that cant be cleaned.
same here!