I don't know a single person in the scene who knows them, let alone is influenced by them. I think they're in this "internet nerd metal" bubble that exists, but nobody outside of it cares about.
that trick with Saturn on the DI is sick.. I love how much clarity of that pick attack it's getting for sure. you cracked me up with sample of the room next door.
When I was younger, before djent was a word, my buddy and I always called it the "gonk" and still do, lol. Like Meshuggah, early Architects, it still just sounds like a gonk to me
I've been using Saturn and later on Saturn 2 for years pretty much every time I wanted to shape the tone. Not just guitar or bass tone, literally every tone. Vocals, drums, woodwind etc. etc. It's my most used plugin ever.
This was so fucking great to watch, man you’ve got such a talent. The next door drill section and automating it into an intro piece was so good lmao. Bravo man
This was a fun one! I like how creative this episode got. Using a lot of different elements. The end product kind of made me think of Termina. Sounds sick!
Learned so much on this one video. 1. Never knew they reversed one guitar for that ambient sound. Immediately going to incorporate that. 2. That triplet scratch that you did. Never knew you could do that. 3. I’m new to logic and never was able to figure out how to do takes. So I always recorded and then immediately deleted to redo the take which takes for ever. 4. Definitely going to get Saturn now. 5. I never thought about using the keyboard to input the bass notes. My dumbass always put it in using the mouse for each individual note. Which also takes ages. Thank you. I’ll be referring to this video for a while. Instant sub.
What could be happening with your whammy is that it is providing a buffer to your signal which adds clarity to the DI. I saw a video years back about doing this with any old Boss pedal and the results imo are worth having even just a boss tuner in line before you hit the preamp.
@@BrendonKPadjasek or you can turn your WH4 true bypass easily. Lot of DIY on web. Me I used the EHX killswitch (named chill switch now) to loop my WH4 in a true bypass way.
Thall Thursday didn't disappoint! Awesome stuff Nick! Could you imagine doing a Video on your processing some day? Especially on the guitar bus and the master bus chain. I can't get my Archetype Nolly to sound anything as close to that good to be honest.
First time seeing the channel. I’m recognizing your whammy issue here. I went through this and found a rock solid solution. I ended up trying the electro harmonix pitchfork + with my mission engineering expression pedal. Problem 100% solved. The pitchfork + isn’t quite as plug and play friendly as the whammy but once you get it setup you’ll be blown away. I now wonder why everyone raves about the whammy when the pitchfork does it so much better. I found the whammy having a sort of ripping sound sometimes. The pitchfork is way smoother sounding. Worth checking out
Honestly I though of just doing it all digitally with Archetype Gojira 🤷♂️ I’m still happy with the Whammy though, doesn’t bother me too much. I never have it engaged unless I’m actively using it.
been messing with that pre amp multi band saturation for a few months now and it's really just the best thing ever, it's basically letting you make a custom overdrive pedal
Hey man I bought both logic writing templates but I see you got a different mastering chain and plugins now. Would you be able to update the previous ones for existing buyers :)
Could you describe a bit more in detail how you're utilizing the Saturn plugin on the DI? I see "Crunchy Amp" and "Warm Tape" on the screen. Are you applying those distortion effects just to the mids and highs on different tracks?
@@nickbroomhallmusic John Browne did a video about these clean sounds from early Fellsilent, Monuments and stuff. They used to dial these on Pod XT Live. Great stuff, check it out!
What giraffe strings, and what tuning do you rub on the multiscale 7 you just got. I just picked up a Schecter multi that I’m really loving it but would like to set it up a tiny bit lower and wanna maintain the bright sound.
@@nickbroomhallmusic That seems to be the standard for 7 string multi. That’s what I have. Thanks for the response, your strings just sound so crispy lol. I think the stock strings on the Schecter are just 💩.
My whammy does the same thing.... for me its like it has a fuzz fx and the overall volume decreases a bunch according to the input of my interface (IK Axe I/O one)
If you have a Whammy V, the CLASSIC mode saves your tone more, but is less polyphonic, the CHORDS mode, not only degrades your signal more, there is a bit of noticable latency.
In all seriousness though, there is very little thall tutorials out there other than Andrew and Johnnys tutorial and would absolutely love to see a tutorial or even just another thall thursday here and there would be so cool. I hope to one day do a one on one sesh with you Nick. I feel like you have infinite knowledge to teach.
My first impression after my realization is that the signal looks and sounds like it gets compressed and/or clipped as well as high passed. I'll do some further investigation just because I'm curious about it but tbh, it doesn't affect my workflow too much since I don't have it engaged unless I'm actively using it.
Nick BroomTHALL
there it is
@@nickbroomhallmusic I couldn’t resist😭
I rushed to the comments only to find my joke already told. Fair play, Sir.
@@drivabletoaster417 lmao GG
Nick Bruthall. That’s a nice name for a death core vocalist
If you’d told me in 2008 that Vildhjarta would be not only relevant, but very influential 15 years later, I’d have thought you were nuts.
Their new stuff has got me so hyped!!!
I don't know a single person in the scene who knows them, let alone is influenced by them. I think they're in this "internet nerd metal" bubble that exists, but nobody outside of it cares about.
@@honigdachs. Lame comment
i think its accurate, although unfortunate @@danieldavidson5447
They are the only band that each new single/album is better than the last. Other than Stoort, which Calle is also in.
You NEED to turn this into a full song! I absolutely love it!
That Saturn trick with the DI was one of the best I've seen yet. Truly the hot sauce of mixing plugins
I know Calle from Vildhjärta, we skated together when we were young kids. Time flies. It’s incredible that people know about Vildhjärta.
Thank you for these videos, Nick! Helps me so muuuch when I feel uninspired and lost. You are awesome
Thanks so much, man! I appreciate that!
Love when real recognize real! Would be so fired up to see you two collab.
that trick with Saturn on the DI is sick.. I love how much clarity of that pick attack it's getting for sure. you cracked me up with sample of the room next door.
Thanks man! When life gives you lemons 😅
The Elden Ring reference was amazing. I CANNOT wait for the DLC.
Man, that saturn before the amp made a HUGE difference! Also: thall.
Thanks dude! Been enjoying your videos lately!
I'm a simple man, I see the thall, I must have the thall
mfw I dont know what thall is
I showed a non-metalhead friend I have a thall song. Presumably due to the bends, they called it "weewoo music." That stuck with me 😂
perfect description
Wife calls erra/invent animate weedoleedee bands
When I was younger, before djent was a word, my buddy and I always called it the "gonk" and still do, lol. Like Meshuggah, early Architects, it still just sounds like a gonk to me
Back in the Colony/Clayman days I heard someone call In Flames "christmas metal" and it has stuck with me since.
In flames best era though@@GIANTENEMYB1RD
The sample thing is SO REAL LMAO I’ll be making the song and be like “wait this annoying fridge actually goes so hard”
😂
The whammy has a really aggressive high cut filter to mask the digital artifacts it introduces
Oh interesting! That makes sense. I definitely want to look into it a little more just to know exactly what it does. Still my fav pedal tho 🧡
it must come to life as a full track. i can easily imagine guys like Alessandro Zilio ripping a sick guest solo over this.
amazing, Nick.
Nick, these videos are unbelievably inspiring!! Without a doubt, my favorite weekly youtube series 😀
Cheers
Buri! Thanks so much bro!
dude I hope your channel blows up. youre really talented!
Thanks so much! 🙏
Thall 🤘
you don't have enough subs my dude. this is some professional level quality you are making.
The Elden Ring edit as introduction to the video was clean AF
I laughed out loud lmfaooo
You make it look so easy haha. Awesome riff man!
Thanks dude!
@@nickbroomhallmusic you are welcome ^^
Dude... THALL + Elden Ring + Power Drill!! is it possible to not be PERFECT??
sounds so clean! awesome production!
saturn trick is goated with the sauce, thank you for the knowledge 🙏
I've been using Saturn and later on Saturn 2 for years pretty much every time I wanted to shape the tone. Not just guitar or bass tone, literally every tone. Vocals, drums, woodwind etc. etc. It's my most used plugin ever.
This was so fucking great to watch, man you’ve got such a talent. The next door drill section and automating it into an intro piece was so good lmao. Bravo man
Your workflow and process is awesome. Thank you for making these!! Thall Thursday 🤘🏼
This was a fun one! I like how creative this episode got. Using a lot of different elements. The end product kind of made me think of Termina. Sounds sick!
by far the best episode!! in my opinion, just because its completely my music taste. keep going
Learned so much on this one video.
1. Never knew they reversed one guitar for that ambient sound. Immediately going to incorporate that.
2. That triplet scratch that you did. Never knew you could do that.
3. I’m new to logic and never was able to figure out how to do takes. So I always recorded and then immediately deleted to redo the take which takes for ever.
4. Definitely going to get Saturn now.
5. I never thought about using the keyboard to input the bass notes. My dumbass always put it in using the mouse for each individual note. Which also takes ages.
Thank you. I’ll be referring to this video for a while. Instant sub.
So glad you found some useful stuff!! 🤘
What could be happening with your whammy is that it is providing a buffer to your signal which adds clarity to the DI. I saw a video years back about doing this with any old Boss pedal and the results imo are worth having even just a boss tuner in line before you hit the preamp.
Bro the Elden Ring item overlay had me dying. 😂
Subscribed.
I have the same issue with the Whammy every time I use it as well. That Saturn trick was cool, I might steal it haha. Cool stuff man, keep it up!
WH4 isn’t true bypass. Try WH5 or DT
@@MarkDatines makes sense. Thanks for the tip!
@@BrendonKPadjasek or you can turn your WH4 true bypass easily. Lot of DIY on web. Me I used the EHX killswitch (named chill switch now) to loop my WH4 in a true bypass way.
I love watching you make riffs. Wish I could learn.
Thanks! You absolutely can learn!
Thall Thursday didn't disappoint! Awesome stuff Nick! Could you imagine doing a Video on your processing some day? Especially on the guitar bus and the master bus chain. I can't get my Archetype Nolly to sound anything as close to that good to be honest.
Definitely! I have a Tutorial Tuesday video in mind for that.
@@nickbroomhallmusic Really looking forward to it! Have a nice day and greetings from Hamburg, Germany! \m/
I am pumped for this.@@nickbroomhallmusic
This is sick! Thanks for sharing!
For drop pedals, I use the virtual Jeff pro and with the buffer bypass, and it works amazingly well! You should give it a look.
Yes! Love it dude, sounds great!!
Watching you work is so incredible lol the creativity is super admirable and on top of it you’re really skilled!
Thank you so much!
Absolutely need a full version of this one
First time seeing the channel. I’m recognizing your whammy issue here. I went through this and found a rock solid solution. I ended up trying the electro harmonix pitchfork + with my mission engineering expression pedal. Problem 100% solved. The pitchfork + isn’t quite as plug and play friendly as the whammy but once you get it setup you’ll be blown away. I now wonder why everyone raves about the whammy when the pitchfork does it so much better. I found the whammy having a sort of ripping sound sometimes. The pitchfork is way smoother sounding. Worth checking out
Honestly I though of just doing it all digitally with Archetype Gojira 🤷♂️ I’m still happy with the Whammy though, doesn’t bother me too much. I never have it engaged unless I’m actively using it.
That was sick. I’m gonna have to check out the saturn plugin.
so thall sick riff dude
You just gained a new subscriber. Loved it man!!
SAMPLE OUT OF NO WHERE IS TOP TIER BLESSINGGGGGGGG
You absolutely nailed the style, here.
Nick's last breath
I would LOVE to know the settings you dialed in on Saturn. (the middle part was never shown)
How does he connect the whammy pedal to work within his interface and DAW?
Learned so much, thanks for being visible on youtube
I've been doing almost the same thing but with the ozone exciter before the amp sim. I definitely should try using the saturn though.
Don't let Big Thall win!
that intro melody from yesterday that you started with also sounds very ALLUVIAL
Some of the heaviest riffage I've heard in a good long while. Solid!
Damn son, that riff was thick
Love what you do, man. Also, it seems I've run into the same problem with my Whammy so, thanks for that.
That video was very eye opening for me. Gr8 job dude.
THALL
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks dude!
I love to see phenomenal stuff coming out of just a regular looking dude. You’re the musical equivalent of a sleeper car.
😂 Thanks bro
Need a full version of this on spotify
lol I do the saturn thing for low tuning stuff too. accidentally copied my saturn bass tone preset onto the guitar DI and it did something for me
been messing with that pre amp multi band saturation for a few months now and it's really just the best thing ever, it's basically letting you make a custom overdrive pedal
100%, I kinda want FabFilter to turn Saturn into a guitar pedal
Hey man I bought both logic writing templates but I see you got a different mastering chain and plugins now. Would you be able to update the previous ones for existing buyers :)
You can`t help but just respect Thall...Great job man
I've been messing with pre distortion di treatment for a long time (mostly weird eq curves) but never though of saturation before. This is great.
EQ before the amp is also nice. I'm kinda getting the same effect with Saturn but with Saturn I can also saturate
Would you mind sharing your exact ff saturn settings? Love that tone
15:00 c'mon man... that rules!
How did you achieve this drum sound? For me that's the definition of a perfect drum sound!
As if i wasn't already using Saturn on almost every track on my projects 😂
Man i love Fabfilter Saturn so much! Thanks for the tip man!
Could you describe a bit more in detail how you're utilizing the Saturn plugin on the DI? I see "Crunchy Amp" and "Warm Tape" on the screen. Are you applying those distortion effects just to the mids and highs on different tracks?
I'm mostly using for the crunchy amp setting on the high band. I can go a little more in depth in the next TRT if people are interested!
@@nickbroomhallmusic That would be great content, I think. Many thanks if you can dig into it a bit!
These Milton cleans sound fuckin epic dude. I'm not that into Thall but that sounded great.
Keep up the amazing work!
Thanks so much! I had no idea this specific sound of clean guitars had a name until now 😂
@@nickbroomhallmusic John Browne did a video about these clean sounds from early Fellsilent, Monuments and stuff. They used to dial these on Pod XT Live. Great stuff, check it out!
how did you make you drum sound dude , it's so perfect !
10:23 you have to wait for the loop to finish recording before hitting stop
Nick what do you use for you bass drops and anything post production you use. Is there a good pack out there?
The KSHMR packs on Splice are insane
@nickbroomhallmusic much love brother. Thank you sir
What giraffe strings, and what tuning do you rub on the multiscale 7 you just got. I just picked up a Schecter multi that I’m really loving it but would like to set it up a tiny bit lower and wanna maintain the bright sound.
I still have the Kiesel factory strings on here. I believe they're Elixir 9s. Not 100% sure on the scale length but I think it's 25.5-27
@@nickbroomhallmusic That seems to be the standard for 7 string multi. That’s what I have. Thanks for the response, your strings just sound so crispy lol. I think the stock strings on the Schecter are just 💩.
The drill sample was a fun touch. haha
Incredible! ♥
Which drum library do you use?
Usually the GetGood Drums PV kit!
I have a whammy pedal as well and I noticed that whenever I used it my sound would be slightly different, I always just thought it was me.
My whammy does the same thing.... for me its like it has a fuzz fx and the overall volume decreases a bunch according to the input of my interface (IK Axe I/O one)
Using saturn as a preamp/boost pedal is so smart, im gonna start doing that!
What drum samples are you using? I'm been looking for a big sound like that for a while. Currently using the EZdrummer Made of Metal
if you play cleans with whammy pedal you hear sound changes pretty good
The face I made when you did the mastering chain playthrough and everything comes in.... good god.
It alway hits different when we put the chain on 🙌
Hughie, we need sick Thall riffs to drop the homelanda
Damn bro lol, that was sick. Love the drill edit 😅
Oh man, I've gotta know how you got that reverse delay sound on the vibey intro riff.
First time finding your channel. Sounds awesome. You got the sauce. Subscribed.
Thanks so much!! Appreciate it!
Saturn is powerful, thank man, great idea!
If you have a Whammy V, the CLASSIC mode saves your tone more, but is less polyphonic, the CHORDS mode, not only degrades your signal more, there is a bit of noticable latency.
Oh good catch, I didn't even think about what mode I had it on!
this is my favorite one so far
I've been making thall style stuff for the last couple years, its so fun
In all seriousness though, there is very little thall tutorials out there other than Andrew and Johnnys tutorial and would absolutely love to see a tutorial or even just another thall thursday here and there would be so cool. I hope to one day do a one on one sesh with you Nick. I feel like you have infinite knowledge to teach.
Thanks for the kind words! Yeah I might continue this idea on TRT so there may be more thall to come 🤔
Full pls
brother these are usually fantastic but this one is FUCKING SICK
WOOOOO
next up is Mick Broomhall??
This was a crazy good episode
That tone… really spot on! will this nolly preset be in your shop?
Not yet but I plan to put it up soon along with other tones I’ve made on TRT!
NICK what drum vst do you use? been searching for whatever you use
THICK RIFF THURSDAY HUH?…. SUBSCRIBED !
Saturn before sims is amazing. I use SSL Saturation X currently too and it’s just as insane although it’s broadband, it’s still very cool!
More please!
Imo the whammy pedal is justing pushing the signal. I dail in the gain for my whammy seperate and it´s fine
My first impression after my realization is that the signal looks and sounds like it gets compressed and/or clipped as well as high passed. I'll do some further investigation just because I'm curious about it but tbh, it doesn't affect my workflow too much since I don't have it engaged unless I'm actively using it.