Battle of the Black Gate - Middle Earth Lore DOCUMENTARY
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2022
- Wizards and Warriors animated fantasy documentary lore video series on the world of Middle-Earth - Lord of the Rings universe previously covered the aftermath of the formation and destruction of the Fellowship of the Ring and the first battle of Osgiliath ( • War of the Ring Begins... ), the battles of the Fords of Isen ( • Battles of the Fords o... ) and the battle of Helm's Deep ( • Battle of Helm's Deep ... ) and the battles of Osgiliath and Rammas Echor ( • Battles of Osgiliath a... ). In the aftermath of the battles of Pelargir and the Pelennor Fields ( • Battle of the Pelennor... ), Sauron's forces attack Dale and Erebor, Lorien and the Woodland Realm, opening up the new front called the War in the North. To the South, Aragorn, supported by Gandalf, Eomer, Imrahil and others is on his way to Mordor to give Frodo enough time to destroy the One Ring. This leads to the battle of the Black Gate.
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Writer: Frank Ó'hÁinle
Illustration and Animation: Arb Paninken
Map: Adam Ellis Charters
Battle Assets/Logo: Oguz Tunc
Battle Map: Arif Azaman
Narration: OfficiallyDevin ( / officiallydevin )
Editing: Kamran Maharramli
Producer: Nurlan Karimov
Production Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound: www.epidemicsound.com
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Why did you say in your most recent elderscrolls video that it would be your last one their is so much more to cover the war of the red diamond and Cameron the usurper the formation of the skyrim empire and so much more
Sweet, you answered my prayers
Please consider covering legends of the galactic heroes
@@keirangrant1607 ?
@@treebush what is that?
“Sons of Gondor! Of Rohan! My brothers. I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of Men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day. An hour of wolves and shattered shields when the Age of Men comes crashing down, but it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!”
Great video! Id love to see you cover the War of wrath, and the silmarils in general.
Cringe
🗡🗡🗡🗡
For Frodo!
@@highstreet2535 then don't comment. This channel is specifically for fantasy battles so that each respective fandoms can revel in their inherent awesomeness.
I always love Dain defending Brand's body. The Hobbit ending with the deaths of the Durins always hurt my feelings, so I do love that the Battle of the Five Armies wasn't in vain, and that a kinship was born between the men and the dwarves there.
I also like according to this depiction dain killed around 5714 soldiers defending the body
@@lennard939 could you imagine the sheer endurance it would take to strike down 6,000 beefy ugly orcs, that would be insane. You would have to be extremely durable too, and that is what dwarves are. Durable
Dain II was of Durin's line--just like Thorin Oakenshield. So is Thorin III
as a person thats only seen the movies i am saddened and surprised how these two died
0:20 "The Northern theatre of the war was just as pivotal in deciding the fate of middle earth..." You have no idea how many times I've told friends about this, there needs to be a movie on the War in the North.
Battle for Middleearth vibe
There’s a video game
@@WitcherGerd yeeeah, but it doesn't really tackle the canon events, if memory serves (it's been a while since I played, it though). That said, while lacking and could've used more story content/DLC, it was a good game, IMHO.
Hope there are good movies to come
Battle for Middle Earth.
While not pure cannon, it does portrait some of the events and had a cohesive story.
It is also amazing!
Slight error at 12:30 in saying hobbits, Pippin was the only hobbit with Aragorn, as Merry was left at Minas Tirith to recover from his strike on the witch king
And Pippin doesn't even get a mention for killing a troll single-handedly
Please cover more battles of Middle-earth. I'd love to see you cover the Wars of Beleriand during the First Age, primarily the Dagor Bragollach, Nirnaeth Arnoediad and the Fall of Gondolin
10:50 slight error. Aragorn’s army DIDN’T infact ignore Minas Morgul. They went straight to its gates, and challenged whatever insider there (Nazgul or otherwise) to sally out and meet them. But it was disturbingly quite and no answer nor a force came to challenge them. I believe it was also debated whether or not to retake Minas Morgul but then again it was refused, but i am not sure about this part.
In the end, they decided to just demolish its bridges so no force can flank them from behind, and then went to the Black Gates
Slight error, Sam and frodo didn't turn on one another before Shelob, but rather went in her cave willingly, suspecting something was wrong and got separated after they confronted the sight of a thousand eyes in the dark. Also, the Mt doom didn't erupt immediately, Sam and Frodo made it down to the base of the mountain before collapsing from exhaustion.
I love the fact that King Dain and Brand stayed behind personally, to cover their forces withdrawal. Probably knowing there was little chance they’d see another day!
I further love the aspect of that King Dain was so furious upon the death of his friend King Brand, that he defended his body till his strength gave out like he was his own brother!
Not unlike High kings Gil Galad, and Elendil in that respect! Two mighty champions of their peoples standing together to oppose a horrific evil!
Ah, that’s why Sauron tempted Aragorn before the final battle started. He though he had the ring.
He assumed that was the only way he'd be confident enough to march to the Black Gate.
You could argue, that the war of the ring went on for many years after these events, since quite a number of the men in the east and south fought on, sometimes up to almost a generation. It is never clear said what happened to the orcs and trolls after the war, but a few bands may have survived in the deepest caves of the Misty Mountain and other places. What Morgoth and Sauron had created was not gone from the world.
that is true , he misses battle of Moria too when Thorin Stonehelm lead his army to retake Khazad Dum
There's one more battle that barely gets mentioned there-bunch of orcs invade Rohan and the Ents tackle them somewheres out on the Wold while all this is going on, Treebeard tells Our Heros about it as they head northwards and stop at Isengard.
Oh yeah, the Battle of the Black Gate. The final battle against Sauron and all his evil.
Sure would be awkward if there was another, less climactic conflict afterwards involving a forgotten ex-wizard and a greedy short guy ravaging some beautiful countryside.
*battle of Shire rages in background*
And people think the movie has too many endings. But in the books defense, it was kinda cool seeing the change in the hobbits and their military knowledge actually showing
@@JJJBunney001 Merry's 'Charge of the Holbytlan' announced by his Rohirric horn is a great moment.
I simultaneously believe that the scouring of the Shire is the most important part of the book and really the emotional core of Lord of the Rings as a story but if added to the movies it would've ruined the trilogy. It really speaks to how well PJ understood the difference between the two mediums of movies and books and what works for which.
The scouring is intentionally anticlimactic and a big downer because it reflects Tolkiens own experiences of the "great" war. No matter how valiant you fight and how noble you believe your cause you will never get to return home, cause the home you left behind will not be the same that you return to, be it directly by the consequences of the war as in the scouring or just by the march of time.
This works wonderful in a book format cause a book is inherently a slower paced and more personal experience that encourages reflection and introspection whilst in a visual media like a movie it would've completely taken the air out of the whole experience.
Wouldn't have worked in the movie for reasons I think @Swedsman covered. But it works in the book showing that Hobbits and Men have "grown up" and no longer need the wizards and the elves to protect them from the forces of darkness in the world. It also showed that darkness and evil would continue to exist but even without the elder races it could be confronted and overthrown.
An additional note there was to show that even the Shire wasn't untouchable by the outside world and needed to be alert for darker influences.
Big ups to mentioning Sam being the only one to ever willingly give up the ring, Tolkien said he was the true hero of the series
The only one after Bilbo and Bilbo needed a little push from Gandalf.
You also have to wonder if the way Bilbo gave up the ring, even counts. He turned his hand and let gravity do it, seemingly unable to just let it go. I suppose the fact he even did counts for something.
That was an awesome battle. Much courage, bravery, sacrifice, and heroism. Much of good triumphing over evil!
It goes without saying, the good guys had the better commanders, the better tacticians. And many others. I admit I have jumbled thoughts. But this is one of my favorite stories. Thank you for doing it!
The War in the North battles really shows the multi-theater aspect of the War of the Ring. If only these northern battles were depicted in a show or movie…
Some 1st age battles would be awesome. The Sack of Gondolin, the Nirnaeth Arnoediad, The Siege of Angband. Or the Kin Slayings would be interesting as well. Love the channel.
Not sure why you included Lake Town/Esgaroth on the battle map. The initial battle was fought outside the city of Dale.
Love this spin-off channel from Kings and Generals.
Is there any plan to cover the battles from the Wheels of Time books?
12:45 so you chose to cut out the actual confrontation between Aragorn and the Mouth of Sauron. The guy ran away in fear bc of the answer of the King when he threaten them with slavery and death.
Win the battle, lose the war
Choice of evils lies before your feet
Retreat, retreat, retreat!
If you win then you will lose,
Choice of evils, yours to choose
Retreat, retreat, retreat!
You are standing in the eye of the storm,
Move an inch and you'll be dead
You are standing underneath the Towers of the Teeth
And the Eye blazes red!
Win the battle, lose the war
Choice of evils lies before your feet
Retreat, retreat, retreat!
Watched it so many yrs. Return of the ring 💍 good nostalgia
Why is Dale labelled as Esgaroth? Esgaroth is the name for Laketown, which is South of Dale and Erebor.
Always remember, most of the orcs are level 1. Most of the humans are hitting 5 and 6.
The orcs were driven by fear into the battle. The Easterling and Haradrim by propaganda.
Loving these videos so far. Since you've covered Sigmar, I have to ask, will you cover The Emperor of Mankind's campaigns?
I've watched the whole of your Lord the Rings Documentary series. I have thoroughly enjoyed them! I also watch Kings and Generals finding this channel through it. Thank You for the great videos. I'll continue watching!
You might already be planning this, but a story with wars suited to a nuanced retelling would definitely be Legend of the Galactic Heroes.
I was wondering if you were going to talk about the northern theater of the war. I'm so happy you did!
This channel is gold, keep bringing this videos and thanks for making them.
This is awesome man. I love your history channels and I hope you do more LOTR battles. Maybe even a couple GoT ones? There are a lot of battles in that universe as well and some of them have interesting twists.
Im always sad Tolkien never finished his sequel that would lead to the end of the world, but at the same time I understand that it wouldnt be the same world without elves dwarves and the evil cults of Morgoth and Sauron would feel out of place.
he made a sequal?
@@theawesomeman9821 started. Wrote like 15 pages, named characters, even made up general idea for the plot, but then realized it would be darker, more criminal like, with little to no actual magic at best, and therefore wouldnt be the same Middle age that both young and adult readers would enjoy, so he dropped it.
On the one hand, I am sad because as I grew older I got more into this kind of stories. But as one famous actor once said. You gotta known when to leave the stage.
@horriblepancake good point
Same.glad he did since the it would have been men centric and lesser men at that.
@@michasalamon8315 try malazan it has similar vibe
With the lores from medieval fantasy series such as Lord of the Rings and space opera like Star Wars alone, I think this channel can lasted for at least a hundred years. More or less to be exact.
They went into the maw of the beast, betting everything to the strenght of just two Hobbits, and won the bet.
pippin didn't say the eagles were coming, he has just killed a troll and was going unconscious when the last thing he heard was, "the eagles are coming"
And when you think about it, this battle is just like 1 page long in the books... Good job!
What an narration and story.. thank you wizards and warriors
I love this series, thanks so much!
I am thoroughly enjoying this channel's Tolkien series of videos. I love everything about the presentation, the art, the animation, the narration, these are really well made and extremely entertaining. It's great fun catching up on all the older videos from this series that are available, and I look forward to new content.
I love these, listen while I am driving
Brilliant! Well done! Would love to see more history of Middle Earth.
Another gem, thank you!
Cool video and I love the animation which I sadly cannot duplicate. Couple of minor points. The Army of the West was assaulted in Ithilien by a force of Orcs & Easterlings (not HAradrim) in the very place that Faramir had ambushed the Haradrim prior to the assault on Gondor. The guard left at the Cross Roads was probably no more than 300 of mostly archers. Left more as an outpost to warn if Sauron sent a force to get behind The Army of the West or to retake East Osgiliath. The men who were unmanned once they reached the end of North Ithilien and went instead to assail Cair Andros numbered between 800-1,000. Leaving Aragorn with an army of 5,800-5,500 depending on how many casualties they took in the previous assault. Aragorn had already made his dispositions before calling on the Black Gate. There were 2 Hosts that struck the Army of the West. The First Host came out of the Black Gate and from the surrounding hillsides and was made up primarily of Orcs while the 2nd Host of Easterlings came up from the shadows of the Ered Lithui beyond the further tower. One Host outnumbered them by a factor of x10 and the other Host by more than x10 (x10 +). So figure between 55,000-58,000 in one Host and anywhere from 60,000-65,000 in the other Host for a Grand total of 115,000-123,000 Orcs, Trolls, Easterlings and Haradrim).
Mouth of Sauron: I wish we had dentists in Mordor. My bleeding gums receding gum line and rotten teeth are killing me! We need a dental plan!
These are the LOTR videos I didn’t know I needed
The whole production of this was fantastic, especially loved seeing an animated Gwaihir, King of the Eagles for the first time!
Videos I would like to see next on:
1. Story Beren and Lúthien | Lord of the Rings
2. Rise and Fall of Númenor | Lord of the Rings
3. Battle of Reach | Halo Original Timeline
4. The Earth War | Alien/Predator Universe
Absolutely fantastic and keep these coming
Wonderful video! A good reminder too that Sam was the greatest hero of Middle Earth. FWIW, I'd love to see a series on the Dragonlance tales.🐉⚔🏹
The Master Tom Bombadil also gives away the ring willingly. A fact often overlooked.
Yeah but he was somehow inmune to it. The real challenge is to refuse it when it can corrupt you.
Tom bombadil was eru iluvatar
don't remember him from the films
@@bmer92k86 The enigma that is Tom Bombadil and his true identity was never revealed by Tolkien. We can speculate and theorise all we want, but the fact is Tolkien died before he gave any more information on the character.
@@theawesomeman9821
He wasnt in the Films
Great stuff as always!!
Would it perhaps be possible to cover the history of the Mechwarrior universe? Or cover the Dominion War from "Star Trek: Deep Space 9"?
Small chance of victory, cero chance of survival... What are we waiting for?
Samwise is the best character in lotr. Steady, unbreakable, unwavering samewise.
I get goosebumps every time I watch the scene where he carries frodo.
I've been a kings and generals fan for a long time. I've been a Tolkien TH-cam fan for a long time. I feel like I just won the lottery.
Very interesting. Thanks for posting.
aragorn: for frodo
Finally ... Someone makes a video who has actually read the Books !
These are so good kings & general. Good pivot to make a second channel on fantasy!! 💪🏽💯
It's crazy to think Frodo finally gave into the ring at the very last second and almost fucked the whole quest. Thank God for Samwise the brave
damn, now i desperately want to see the same doku for the silmarillion. Great work - As always
These videos are awesome, although it would be great if you guys could do some Silmarilion stuff too!
i enjoy this fantasy lore analysis very much sir, thank you
are you going to cover the silmarillion battles also?
excellent as always
Excellent series! I hope one day we'll get a Homeworld Series too!
Great video! would like to see videos about lore not covered in movies such as the silmaril
Great summary. Helps me getting into playing Lord of The Rings Online
very wel put together
This is a masterpiece
Amazing!
Great video.
great video!
The best part is when Pippin slays the Troll.
Excellent!
A documentary about the cosmere would be very nice!
Battles of Beleriand next please
I kind of hate in LOTR how, the second the ring is destroyed, all of Sauron's forces immediatelly flee or surrender, or are otherwise destroyed
I get the idea of it
But like. Gondor was asbolutely in no position to keep fighting. The Easterlings could 100% have kept fighting and took a bunch of land for themselves
The Orcs makes sense, their entire reason for fighting was because Sauron bassically enslaved them to his will
But the human allies, should have gone to infighting to fill the void, or redoubled their efforts to take land, now they'd be the ones fully controling it
I think infighting is 100% what they did. Without Sauron uniting them, many States would no longer have a reason to go fight these better armed and often better led and organized Western powers, instead pursuing local goals. Other polities would fight everyone, Western or domestic, for security or resources. Others would focus on the West, perhaps forming coalitions or even one big coalition, but that'd be a shell of what Sauron fielded. Also, the logistics and politics would be much more complex without Sauron taking care of all that.
For a historical parallel, think the Gallic Wars. Rome was NOT militarily stronger than the Gauls. But the Gauls were politically divided; even Vercingetorix never fully fixed that. The Belgae actually formed a massive coalition at one point, marched on Caesar, fought (and lost) a minor action, and then dispersed and went home. I absolutely believe the Belgae COULD have destroyed Caesar right here, BUT:
1) Logistics. Contrary to popular belief, the Gauls had sophisticated, advanced Kingdoms thanks to contact with Greeks, Carthaginians and Romans. However, they still lagged behind the 'civilised' States; the Belgae in particular were actually closer to the more traditional Britons. Keeping a massive army in the field wasn't an option. They had to attack or disperse. Obviously they should have attacked, but there are others factors.
2) Politics. Here there are two conflicting interests: casualties and glory. Glory was a good way for tribal leaders to cement their power within the tribe. However, a direct attack on the legions of Rome would cause terrible casualties. Casualties that risked leaving large tribes no longer large and small tribes at risk of extinction. So, who's going to man the front line?
3) Finally, the Belgae... won. Tribal warfare often wasn't decided in battle. It was all about showing strength. They had shown their numbers, and their willingness to fight. By their logic, that probably counted as winning. Especially since Caesar didn't attack them.
Without Mordor's industrial might, how would the Easterlings and Haradrim and Variags field sufficient armies to threaten a newly revitalized Gondor? How would these tribes get along enough to cooperate effectively? How would they decide who fights in the front ranks? Would they even fight, or use their army to obtain diplomatic concessions?
2:43 Ok, come on K+G, you can do better than this. Esgaroth and Dale are *not* the same city - Dale is located immediately next to Erebor in the location shown, while Esgaroth and Lake-Town are located on the Long Lake much farther downstream. Also, the river on which all of this is located is *not* the River Redwater (aka the Carnen), but the River Running (aka the Celduin). The Redwater is another river entirely; it's the one forming the eastern border of the Kingdom of Dale on the previous map, flowing south from the Iron Hills and joining the River Running near Dorwinion.
You do such a great job on so many aspects of your videos, so it really surprises me when you make obvious mistakes like this that 5 minutes of checking a map or looking something up would have avoided.
Yeah they always seem to make silly mistakes like this, shame.
@@aidenharrison9613 My "favorite" one is the animations in their Pacific War series where the ships are all sailing backwards. 🤦♂
Esgaroth is a city in the Kingdom of Dale, muppet. You're so confident, and so wrong.
@@brandondavis7777 And yet so right. Dale the city and Dale the kingdom are not the same thing. The Kingdom of Dale is the full extent of the lands ruled by King Brand at this time, of which the city of Dale is the capitol. The city of Dale is what I'm talking about here, which is what K+G in this video have mislabeled as Esgaroth, which is a different city located farther down the river (the river is also mislabeled). The K+G team seem to have conflated the separate cities of Dale and Esgaroth into one...pretty much what you've done.
Peter Jackson should’ve made complementary films of the other battles that took place while the Battle of the Black Gate was going on.
Would love to hear some warhammer 40k battles done by you.
Hell yeah, brother.
One of my fav battle of war of the Ring form both movie and book.
King Dain deserves more recognition in the series
Would You guys Do the Books Of Narnia?Just Asking..
They should. The author, CS Lewis was friends with Tolkien and they both helped each other write their books.
Really enjoying the series. Have you considered doing “Legend of the Galactic Heroes” for a potential space opera?
After watching this I can clearly say the books are definetley better then the movies
As is always the case. However one has to consider that filmmakers have to cut off certain scenes to save time. Even with these commissions, each episode of this trilogy is already nearly four hours long. To include every detail would be made the movie insanely long.
Everyone :- We could just use the eagles .
Gandalf :- They are my triumph card .
Could you do some Warhammer 40k battles? The siege of Terra or the Istvan dropsite would be awesome!
(sees channel name) Huh, almost styling itself after 'Kings and generals' channel.
*clicks and hears narrator*
Bloody hell. it is them!
Faramir also handed over the One Ring willingly in the books.
Well yes, but on the other hand no, since he never used the ring (I am not sure if that would make a difference). Bombadil even put the ring on his finger but he was unmoved anyway.
Faramir never had the One Ring, in books or movie.
Just another reminder that return of the king is the best movies ever
Guys.
You have to do the first age one day. The battles are epic
We gotta get some Conan the Barbarian stuff on here 🤓
If you want more fantasy battles, set in a great set of novels, try the Malazan Book of the Fallen. It'll have all the battles you could want, in a complexity to dazzle you.
I just came to a realization. Could it be that Tolkien (unintentionally or intentionally) used the common theme of Dwarven ‘greed’ against the orcs of mordor, by using the mithril coat? If so, that would be incredibly poetic. How Sauron (accidentally) amplified the dwarve’s desires for riches before, via the dwarven rings, to cause the downfall of dwarven kingdom after dwarven kingdom, only for a similar sort of greed to plague his forces over a piece of dwarven making, thus allowing Frodo and Sam to slip into mordor relatively undetected, thus resulting in the defeat of Sauron, and his own kingdom?
Brilliantly done. Would be cool to see you guys cover the 2nd Age.
Are we gonna get Videos on the Wars of the First Age? I've been fascinated by them ever since reading the Silmarillion and as a fan of the channel I'd be very excited to see them covered albeit that may be my rather nieche interest
The biggest part missing from the 3rd movie is these details of what is happening in the wider world. Such as the armies of southern Gondor, the blocking force that was sent to guard the road and stop the men of Rohan from getting to Minas tirith in time. Plus the movie completely forgot about the easterlings after frodo and Sam saw them entering the black gate. Also they didn't show the outer defenses that surrounded the city.
They also left out Prince Imrahil and the swan knights as well as elronds sons and the grey rangers
Interesting
Mind if I ask what the source was on the numbers for the battle of Dale.
Since several seem to give them almost as ten times what was presented here.