@@DarkBoy-zd8qz - As I understand it, the common man of Middle-Earth is scarcely aware of Valinor anyway. Maybe the "sudden" disappearance of the elves would raise some questions, though.
Fights a war successfully, returns home, destroys the tyranny ruling and destroying his home, marries his childhood sweetheart, has 13 kids, becomes mayor for 49 years, and then goes on to become one of the very few non-elves to set sail for the Grey Havens What an absolute champion, not bad for a simple gardener
"No such anguish had Shelob ever known, or dreamed of knowing, in all her long world of wickedness. Not the doughtiest soldier of old Gondor, nor the most savage Orc entrapped, had ever thus endured her, or set blade to her beloved flesh." -The Two Towers. Sam was a total badass.
As a Dunedan, I just wished Aragorn would have thanked us for the Mumakil clean up we had to do in the fields of Pelennor. Threw out my back and all....
@@goodputin4324 I'm not in the mood for a grammatical check right now, I'm still trying to soothe these peck wounds from the crebain, due to smelling like a corpse from the clean up.
My brother read the books once when he was young, and one day we talked about them and he said "As far as I remember, they ended pretty undramatic. They just went home and that was it." I looked at him shocked and said "You.. may have forgotten just a few tiny details there.."
One wonders if he stopped reading after the Ring was destroyed, and Aragorn was crowned King of Gondor. "Who needs to read the boring old aftermath? I'm sure they all lived happily ever after, 'til the end of their days."
One last nitpick for the ending: going to Valinor doesn’t make you immortal. It was originally propaganda spread by Sauron to convince the Numenorians to invade Valinor.
The funniest way to view the war of the ring is as one big fight for control of the pipeweed trade between the hobbits and Saruman. It works surprisingly well. Just think about it, Saruman started muscling in on their business pretty early on in the story and the Hobbits weren't in a great position to secure it. Add to that the threat of Sauron cutting them out of the game altogether and things get even more dire, so they send 4 guys to go merc Sauron and take down Saruman and along the way they just *happen* to restore the Gondorian monarchy and install a guy who basically makes the share a self governing tax haven that no one can enter without the hobbits say so? ensuring their monopoly on pipeweed? and the last battle is one final throwdown between Saruman and the Hobbits where Saruman is kicked out of the game once and for all along with his whole gang? Don't fuck with the Hobbit cartel bro.
I blame the elves. The elves invented magic rings. Sauron made a bootleg version of a power ring and refused to pay the necessary royalties. Once Sauron and his ring were destroyed, the elves buggered off into outer space (their technology was thousands of years ahead of the humans). That's why Vulcans have pointed ears.
Tolkien, wonderful author and student of literature that he was, understood that there is one perfect way to make a threat feel impossibly close and dangerous: bring it home.
Merry and Pippin: lead an army Sam: rouses the entire Shire and makes sure his girlfriend is okay. Frodo: has a panic attack, which is honestly fair considering what he’s seen.
IDK, keeping an angry, well-armed mob with about a year's worth of legitimate grievance from mauling the prisoners seems pretty good, all things considered.
Little detail with Frodo He never gave up the ring. Bilbo, needed to be persuaded by Gandalf, but gave it up. Frodo, put it on, was going to claim it. Gollum bit his finger off. So the Ring is gone, but he never gave it up. And gas to live with the fact he was planning to run off with it and doom the world at the very end of it all Frodo... NOT in a good place after the quest
@@Canadian_Zac He could not give the ring up and destroy it But nobody could have brought the ring to that place. It was an act of great faith and trust that providence would do, what not other hands in middle earth could do. and providence metted out the punishment Frodo judged Gollum when Gollum choose to swear on the ring. But Frodo then was not a hero anymore, he had become a saint
You've put so much work into these documentaries and it shows. As I look through the playlists of this channel, I see Witcher, Elder Scrolls, Game of Thrones, Conan, and more! This is my idea of Heaven! My absolute favorite channel!
You forgot to mention that Saruman/Sharkey tried to kill Frodo on the doorstep of Bag End, only to have his blade turned by the Mithril coat! Rather a massive omission!
Sam takes out Saruman and stands over him with a ready sword, preparing to dispatch him, before, even after his treacherous attack, Frodo insists that they spare and banish him.
I’m by no means a Tolkien expert, but I could swear that after Theoden’s funeral in Rohan’s capital (the name escapes me at the moment) they went on to Isengard to check on Treebeard and Saruman. After finding that the latter had been let go by the former, the Fellowship went their separate ways : Gandalf, Frodo, and the rest of the hobbits went to Rivendell before they went on to the Shire; Aragorn and his retinue meanwhile went BACK to Gondor; and lastly, Legolas and Gimli went into Fangorn Forest before making their way back to their respective homes of Mirkwood and Erebor. Elrond and his sons went with Gandalf and the hobbits; Galadriel and Celeborn travelled with them for a short time (during which they passed by a ragged pair of travelers consisting of the de-powered Saruman and Grima Wormtongue) before also taking their leave and making their back to Lothlorien via that pass over the Misty Mountains (again, the name escapes me; but this was also where the Fellowship was forced to turn back (due to Saruman’s implied magical doings)). Would appreciate actual Tolkien experts to chime in if I’m correct or merely deeply mistaken.
I actually feel bad for the fate of Grima Wormtongue, although at the end maybe he found a spark of strength, not easy for a mortal man to go against the will of a Maia like Saruman who could deceive so many greater minds.
I'm more of consumer than a commentator, but this was truly fantastic work. The way you've blended your extensive knowledge of military history and tactics with fantasy scenarios is so seamless and entertaining. This secondary channel was, in my opinion (and obviously, given the viewership count), an excellent idea. Fair play to you.
Thank you Wizards and Warriors for an amazing journey through Middle Earth. It was extremely enjoyable to watch as I love the maps, battles, and visuals you pick to depict this timeless setting.
Even just this quick summary of the books brings chills and tears... I've read everything from The Silmarillion, Children of Hurin, Hobbit and LOTR.... and the only books that get me going like this is the Legend of Drizzt books... pure masterpieces one and all.
A few notes - Arnor only had 10 Kings, Later Arnor would be split into Arthedain, Rhudaur & Cardolan. Arthedain would have 15 Kings whereas not much is known about other two kingdoms. Hence Technically Aragorn was 11th king of Arnor & 16th King of Arthedain. Aragorn was also 34th King of Gondor not 35th. Earnur was 33rd king before Aragorn when he was lost in Minas Morgul and his fate is unknown in TA 2050.
@Byzantine Historian That is why I added the term technically, By 14th century of third age Rhudaur was occupied by Angmar and by 16th century of third age Cardolan was abandoned, so only Arthedain survived for few more centuries. Part of Arthedain was again given to hobbits due to dwindling population so to say Arnor = Arthedain will probably reduce the Glory and Stature of Arnor itself.
@Byzantine Historian And the Kings of after Eärendur took the title of King of Arrhedain, they tried to take the title of King of Arnor but it was not accepted by subjects of other kingdoms. It is also important to note that the title of High King was not taken by Kings of Arthedain.
@@DarkBoy-zd8qz because that’s how Illuvatar planned it. Elves weren’t meant to live in Valinor while men had dominion over middle earth and the other lands. The elves were never meant to stay in Belareiand, Lorien, Mirkwood, or in middle earth.
@@DarkBoy-zd8qz On the contrary, they let anyone in during the Fourth Age. Sam? He's a little bit ring-bearer, grant him admittance. Gimli? Legolas knows the guy, he can enter.
@@Arashmickey You're selling Gimli short! (Pun intended) He's also the guy who got THREE strands of hair from Lady Galadriel. Let's not forget a certain elf went ape-shit because she wouldn't give him such a gift.
This might be a shot in the dark but have you ever thought about covering the Wheel of Time series? Finished up Lord of Chaos and I'd like to see your take covering the battle of Dumai's Wells. :)
If LOTR went full on series with time to breathe and hour-length episodes, I can see how the Scouring of the Shire can be a good bookend to the hobbits' journey and evoking Tolkien's themes as was done in the book. For the Jackson Trilogy though? Yeah I think it was a good move to cut it out or rearrange some things. It may mean that many not even know of the Scouring of the Shire but that's hardly the fault of Jackson; the consumers or fans should do the research themselves.
@@MicaiahBaron thats not what I meant at all and stop taking things out of context its bad because its going against everything that was in the books and lore made by tolkien For example, the MC of the show is Galadriel but her husband Celeborn isnt even in season 1. Also Galadriel at the time was about 2000 yrs old yet shes being portrayed as an immature rebellious woman MC while characters like Elrond who is like less than 100 yeras old are being the mature characters for some reason. also Tolkien specifically states that Elves are fair skinned, yet the show has a dark skinned elf? thats going against lore. for some reason, there is a girl Frodo whose a hobbit who (in lore) are irrelevant until the 3rd age. among many other problems
if 15 years ago, you told me that a LOTR series, halo series and witcher series would come out in the same year, I would have wept with joy. now, I just weep. Careful what you wish for. The witcher at least had a good start, thats something I guess.
I loved your series on LOTR, including on the economy of Middle-Earth. It is such a rich universe. I hope you will take a similar approach with Game of Thrones and make videos on the economy of GRRM’s world as well.
Something occurred to me. As Pippin was technically an employ of Aragorn, had Pippin been badly injured or, heavens forbid, actually killed Aragorn would’ve had full legal authority to assault the Shire under Saruman’s control. Can you imagine the legitimate terror on the Ruffian’s minds knowing they’d have ti face the full night of the mightiest King on Earth?
The Scouring doesn't work for a movie setting, it would have turned the ending into something very unsatisfying, not to mention make it even longer than it already was.
@@resileaf9501 There is enough content after the One Ring is destroyed to make a full 4th movie. Obviously it wouldn't work there being a 4th film after the trilogy around the time, but could have been fleshed out if LotR were a series with a season of its own
The havens of Mithlond wasn't the only haven to exist. Beside, with the departure of Cirdan, there was likely no more charpenter to build ships there anymore.
Thank you. Thank you for a wonderful video, and a wonderful series. I love every moment of it and I love the research and inspiring an appreciation for the sense of the beauty of Tolkien's works. Thank you so much!
You mention "space operar". As a 76 year old, I remember when "space opera" was a term of derision. That has changed over the last 23 years. There are two websites that I can recommend. I can give you names, but not links, since YT deletes entries with them. The first is Solarguard Academy". This was for fans of the 4 TV shows of the 1950's "Space Shows", in order CAPTAIN VIDEO, SPACE PATROL, TOM CORBETT; SPACE CADET and ROCKY jONES; SPACE RANGER. These shows ran from 1949 to 1955, Two of them on the early Dumont Networkd. The persons to contact are "Cadet Ed Pippin [whom I dubbed 'the only Hobbit with a flying saucer license]", Drl Warren Chaney and Jean-Noel Bassior, author of the Space Patrol books SPACE PATROL Daring Missions in Early Television.. The other site is "Uncle Earl's Classic Television", where you can find surviving episodes of these shows. SPACE PATROL being the most numerous and with which I am most identiied, bieng accepted into the Patrol in 1999 by Ed Kemmer (Bazzu Corry: Commander in Chief). I do not know the status of the crew of the Solarguard ship Polaris II, which consisted of Ed Pippin, Jan Merlin (the actor), Cadet Chick Lassen and Cadet Jack McKirgan. One of the Great accomplishments of SP fans was Dr. Olendor's co-creation of the CAT scan. I was very much affected by the death of Lyn Osbourne (Cadet Happy) Other "space opera" universes are the British SPACE PATROL (called PLANET PATROL in th US), FIREBALL XL5, THUNDERBIRDS ARE GO and CAPTAIN SCARLETT AND THE MYSTERONS, joining the much earlier DAN DARE
I know you already have Endtime series ongoing. But I hope that when you are done you considered history of Warhammer elves. As in Aenerion history, as well as the Sundering.
Yes, and then to Halls of Mandos forever. However, there are few notable exceptions: Tuor was apparently counted as Noldor for his legendary deeds and love of Eldar, Bilbo and Frodo were long under influence of the Ring and may have Eru's gift of immortality taken away, could be they are exception too. But in general - yea, no changing destiny.
Your Middle Earth series is fantastic, hope it never ends. I would recommend a series on Babylon 5 and Firefly and also John Carter Of Mars. Thanks again for the great Tolkein series!
And as much as I would have liked to think this was possible which probably isn't. I would have liked that Bilbo Frodo Sam and Gimli we're able to obtain immortality when they went to the undying lands so they could live forever with their dearest friends.
Interestingly, among Tolkien’s extensive notes, there are some very preliminary ideas for a sequel to LotR set during the reign of Aragorn’s son involving the rise of a dark cult and focusing on the metaphor that, just like the white tree of Gondor, the tree of evil will always grow back. Ultimately Tolkien abandoned it believing he wouldn’t be able to make it one of the stories with universal themes he was committed to writing.
During the reign of Eldarion, King of Gondor, the events of the War of the Ring are now little more than seldom-heeded tales to the people of Gondor, lingering only as a shadow upon the early childhood of those who lived to see it. One such man was Borlas of Pen-arduin, the younger son of Beregond. In his garden by the Anduin in sight of Minas Tirith, he is in conversation with a young man named Saelon. Borlas speaks of the constant presence of evil in the hearts of Men, a Dark Tree that cannot be felled forever, while Saelon is doubtful. Saelon recalls the time when Borlas scolded him in his youth for wasting unripe fruit from his garden, calling it "Orcs' work", much to Saelon's disdain at the time. Borlas replies that misuse of unripe fruit robs the world and hinders a good thing of fulfillment. Saelon brings up Men's habit of felling trees for their own use, to which Borlas says that if the wood is used for decent purposes and not wasted then no wrong is done. Borlas grows tired of the conversation, but Saelon wishes to continue their discussion of the nature of growing evil. Saelon claims that it couldn't have been memories of Saelon's childhood mischief that began their discussion of the Dark Tree, saying that he must have heard of Herumor. Saelon goes on to say that a growing number of people are not content in the days after the death of the Great King. Borlas asks what the growing unrest plans to accomplish, to which Saelon asks how Borlas came to know the name of Herumor in the first place. After some disagreement on who should answer first, Saelon offers to tell Borlas all that he wishes to know if he joins him after nightfall clad in black. With this offer, Saelon takes his leave of Borlas's garden. Left alone, Borlas thinks of his son Berelach, a friend of Saelon, and of news from the Ethir Anduin of ships disappearing. He returns into his home, smelling as it would seem the scent of old Evil returning to the world.
It's pretty clear that eventually Dunland and Rohan would eventually have to join the middle earth United Kingdom. I would assume Dale/Lakemen would grab the rest of their area and eventually grab the mountain and Greenwood once the Elves/Dwarves had gone/dwindled. Hopefully The UK and Dale would have a US/Canada like relationship for a very long time.
I doubt dunland would do much, the gondorians and their ancestors numeanoreans had oppressed and cut down the woods and stolen their land for ages. When cirion gave calenardhon (not spelled correctly maybe) to the eothed he kinda ignored the small population already living there. And with there being many dunlendings living there and now suddenly their land was given to a foreign northern people understandably there was anger. And the subsequent wars after that made relations even worse.
the elves lands, certainly, the dwarven lands, i'm not so sure, no humans ever lived inside big cities inside mountains last i checked. They were likely sealed off and disappeared from memory.
@@Human-zx4rb if I remember right, Dunland was given to the Dunlendings by King Elessar. But they have almost no infrastructure and only raw materials. I could easily see them joining voluntary for free trade, and investment. Give them a seat at the king's council and it's a done deal. A lot can be forgiven given a few generations. Uncountable real world examples of this.
I guess many men in the east and south would have remembered their fallen comrads, and especially the people in the South may never really accepted the new expansion of Gondor. As it said, what Morgoth (and Sauron) had created (and the folly of the free people, too) would live on forever. So I think there may be hidden cults and ongoing hatred among those who served Sauron even in later generations. The last being who may remember the days of old even at that time may also be Shelob, since it was never sure if she died or survived. As daughter of Ungoliant she may be the oldest living being aside from Bombadil, even older than the oldest Ent.
If ever that animated The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim movie is done I hope they could make an animated movie about the Battle of Bywater.
The Sandman universe is a fantasy series that's quite hot right now. If you're reading the comments to take suggestions for things to cover, it could spawn some quite interesting video content.... You LOTR content has been exemplimentary too!
It's interesting to compare the two. Both have a wider history to connect their individual stories. Yet Tolkien's legendarium reads like an epic myth, and like the myths of ancient civilizations, it eventually leads into our own history. Narnia, on the other hand, reads like a series of fairy tales, and like fairy tales from our that have been passed down organically, it's structure allows it to remain connected yet separate from our own, a parallel reality that could be just behind the next turn in the woods. Different, yet each has their place.
Great video like always but really hoping we’ll get to see some dragon age videos or maybe look into the red rising books for GoT in space but again great work with this channel
@@concept5631 Well French didn't forced themselves here, the locals asked for it. They have been waging war in Mali to defend the local populace only to be kicked out, twice. Colonisation isn't always bad, before the SPQR French were basically barbarians and savages nowadays they're one of the few Western power that isn't fully evil.
A lesser known setting is that of the Starfire universe, created by sci-fi authors David Weber and Steve White. Would be really cool to see a series on the Arachnid wars.
Great wrap up to the LOTR series. I hope that Star Trek is next in line as there is plenty to cover from the Eugenics Wars of the 90s and all the way to the Dominion War.
Seeing the Scourging of the Shire on the big screen or a TV show would be something. It’s the antithesis of happily forever after when the heroes are done with their quest. It’s understandable why Peter Jackson and company left it out but it would be meaningful seeing the War of the Ring come full circle and being waged in the home of the Hobbits, the Shire.
Any chances on a future series on the wars that occurred before the events of this series, from the creation of Arda all the way to Morgoth's downfall?
more conventional works with more gray not distinctively good or bad characters and endings left for interpretation is great, don't get me wrong, but there is something about naive good ol' happily ever after :D
A few errors (I think) 1) if memory serves, Heathertoes dis not kead the fight against the ruffians in Bree , he was simply a named casualty 2) again if memory serves, the non-elven folk who made it to Valinor did not live with their friends until the final days of the world. Going to Valinor does not grant immortality (as the black numenorians thought). So Bilbo, Frodo, Sam, and Gimli must have eventually died of old age.
Cut to a couple of Gondorian solders in a trench, as the Forces of Morgoth re-risen is charging at them, and a gruff voice rises up from behind them "That'll be 86" and a Arrow fires and hits a orc "87" I wish the Dagor Dagorath would've happened
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Meh
Isn't it unjust that only a handful of people and elves were allowed to live on the immortal continent
To be honest didn't like ending
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@@DarkBoy-zd8qz - As I understand it, the common man of Middle-Earth is scarcely aware of Valinor anyway. Maybe the "sudden" disappearance of the elves would raise some questions, though.
This was a nice video. But when are going to upload your next Sci-Fi video? You haven't done one in a very longtime?
Fights a war successfully, returns home, destroys the tyranny ruling and destroying his home, marries his childhood sweetheart, has 13 kids, becomes mayor for 49 years, and then goes on to become one of the very few non-elves to set sail for the Grey Havens
What an absolute champion, not bad for a simple gardener
His story arc is definitely my favourite in the book!
"No such anguish had Shelob ever known, or dreamed of knowing, in all her long world of wickedness. Not the doughtiest soldier of old Gondor, nor the most savage Orc entrapped, had ever thus endured her, or set blade to her beloved flesh." -The Two Towers.
Sam was a total badass.
Don't mess with someone's potatoes. They dont take too well to such tomfoolery
As a Dunedan, I just wished Aragorn would have thanked us for the Mumakil clean up we had to do in the fields of Pelennor. Threw out my back and all....
:D :D a mammoth job, that...
Would a council position and a Honor guard career/retirement fief in Arnor do?
*Dunadan, not Dunedain. Dunadan = singular, Dunedain = plural
@@goodputin4324 Good ranger
@@goodputin4324 I'm not in the mood for a grammatical check right now, I'm still trying to soothe these peck wounds from the crebain, due to smelling like a corpse from the clean up.
My brother read the books once when he was young, and one day we talked about them and he said "As far as I remember, they ended pretty undramatic. They just went home and that was it."
I looked at him shocked and said "You.. may have forgotten just a few tiny details there.."
Perhaps a few Halfling-sized details, hmmm?
One wonders if he stopped reading after the Ring was destroyed, and Aragorn was crowned King of Gondor. "Who needs to read the boring old aftermath? I'm sure they all lived happily ever after, 'til the end of their days."
#LOL! Good one, @@jacob4920!!
One last nitpick for the ending: going to Valinor doesn’t make you immortal. It was originally propaganda spread by Sauron to convince the Numenorians to invade Valinor.
The funniest way to view the war of the ring is as one big fight for control of the pipeweed trade between the hobbits and Saruman. It works surprisingly well. Just think about it, Saruman started muscling in on their business pretty early on in the story and the Hobbits weren't in a great position to secure it. Add to that the threat of Sauron cutting them out of the game altogether and things get even more dire, so they send 4 guys to go merc Sauron and take down Saruman and along the way they just *happen* to restore the Gondorian monarchy and install a guy who basically makes the share a self governing tax haven that no one can enter without the hobbits say so? ensuring their monopoly on pipeweed? and the last battle is one final throwdown between Saruman and the Hobbits where Saruman is kicked out of the game once and for all along with his whole gang? Don't fuck with the Hobbit cartel bro.
Lol, it makes alot of sense and could work as a "alternative" storyline
"The Bag Ender Crew"
I blame the elves. The elves invented magic rings. Sauron made a bootleg version of a power ring and refused to pay the necessary royalties. Once Sauron and his ring were destroyed, the elves buggered off into outer space (their technology was thousands of years ahead of the humans). That's why Vulcans have pointed ears.
"A pipe weed morarchy" will declare the history books
Tolkien, wonderful author and student of literature that he was, understood that there is one perfect way to make a threat feel impossibly close and dangerous: bring it home.
Merry and Pippin: lead an army
Sam: rouses the entire Shire and makes sure his girlfriend is okay.
Frodo: has a panic attack, which is honestly fair considering what he’s seen.
IDK, keeping an angry, well-armed mob with about a year's worth of legitimate grievance from mauling the prisoners seems pretty good, all things considered.
Little detail with Frodo
He never gave up the ring.
Bilbo, needed to be persuaded by Gandalf, but gave it up.
Frodo, put it on, was going to claim it.
Gollum bit his finger off.
So the Ring is gone, but he never gave it up. And gas to live with the fact he was planning to run off with it and doom the world at the very end of it all
Frodo... NOT in a good place after the quest
@@Canadian_Zac
He could not give the ring up and destroy it
But nobody could have brought the ring to that place.
It was an act of great faith and trust that providence would do, what not other hands in middle earth could do.
and providence metted out the punishment Frodo judged Gollum when Gollum choose to swear on the ring.
But Frodo then was not a hero anymore, he had become a saint
You've put so much work into these documentaries and it shows. As I look through the playlists of this channel, I see Witcher, Elder Scrolls, Game of Thrones, Conan, and more! This is my idea of Heaven! My absolute favorite channel!
You forgot to mention that Saruman/Sharkey tried to kill Frodo on the doorstep of Bag End, only to have his blade turned by the Mithril coat! Rather a massive omission!
Sam takes out Saruman and stands over him with a ready sword, preparing to dispatch him, before, even after his treacherous attack, Frodo insists that they spare and banish him.
I’m by no means a Tolkien expert, but I could swear that after Theoden’s funeral in Rohan’s capital (the name escapes me at the moment) they went on to Isengard to check on Treebeard and Saruman. After finding that the latter had been let go by the former, the Fellowship went their separate ways : Gandalf, Frodo, and the rest of the hobbits went to Rivendell before they went on to the Shire; Aragorn and his retinue meanwhile went BACK to Gondor; and lastly, Legolas and Gimli went into Fangorn Forest before making their way back to their respective homes of Mirkwood and Erebor. Elrond and his sons went with Gandalf and the hobbits; Galadriel and Celeborn travelled with them for a short time (during which they passed by a ragged pair of travelers consisting of the de-powered Saruman and Grima Wormtongue) before also taking their leave and making their back to Lothlorien via that pass over the Misty Mountains (again, the name escapes me; but this was also where the Fellowship was forced to turn back (due to Saruman’s implied magical doings)).
Would appreciate actual Tolkien experts to chime in if I’m correct or merely deeply mistaken.
Also, I’m pretty sure that Frodo and company didn’t go straight to Bywater with a host of hobbits readily in tow.
Edoras is the Rohan capital.
I actually feel bad for the fate of Grima Wormtongue, although at the end maybe he found a spark of strength, not easy for a mortal man to go against the will of a Maia like Saruman who could deceive so many greater minds.
I'm more of consumer than a commentator, but this was truly fantastic work. The way you've blended your extensive knowledge of military history and tactics with fantasy scenarios is so seamless and entertaining. This secondary channel was, in my opinion (and obviously, given the viewership count), an excellent idea.
Fair play to you.
Thank you Wizards and Warriors for an amazing journey through Middle Earth. It was extremely enjoyable to watch as I love the maps, battles, and visuals you pick to depict this timeless setting.
Even just this quick summary of the books brings chills and tears... I've read everything from The Silmarillion, Children of Hurin, Hobbit and LOTR.... and the only books that get me going like this is the Legend of Drizzt books... pure masterpieces one and all.
Love the depiction of the Scouring of the Shire, not seen many illustrations of this. Top work as always
A few notes - Arnor only had 10 Kings, Later Arnor would be split into Arthedain, Rhudaur & Cardolan. Arthedain would have 15 Kings whereas not much is known about other two kingdoms.
Hence Technically Aragorn was 11th king of Arnor & 16th King of Arthedain.
Aragorn was also 34th King of Gondor not 35th.
Earnur was 33rd king before Aragorn when he was lost in Minas Morgul and his fate is unknown in TA 2050.
im pretty sure they said that because gondor in the books pretty much recognized Arthedain as the successor state to Arnor
Ill bet you’re fun at parties
@@craigturner6565 Not really 🙊
@Byzantine Historian That is why I added the term technically, By 14th century of third age Rhudaur was occupied by Angmar and by 16th century of third age Cardolan was abandoned, so only Arthedain survived for few more centuries. Part of Arthedain was again given to hobbits due to dwindling population so to say Arnor = Arthedain will probably reduce the Glory and Stature of Arnor itself.
@Byzantine Historian And the Kings of after Eärendur took the title of King of Arrhedain, they tried to take the title of King of Arnor but it was not accepted by subjects of other kingdoms.
It is also important to note that the title of High King was not taken by Kings of Arthedain.
As a kings & generals and LOTR fan. I feel so ashamed that I have only discovered this channel! Man have I been missing out a lot!
I loved the ending part of the book where Cirdan, Celleborn, and Thranduil all Sail west.
Isn't it unjust that only a handful of people and elves were allowed to live on the immortal continent
@@DarkBoy-zd8qz because that’s how Illuvatar planned it. Elves weren’t meant to live in Valinor while men had dominion over middle earth and the other lands. The elves were never meant to stay in Belareiand, Lorien, Mirkwood, or in middle earth.
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@@DarkBoy-zd8qz On the contrary, they let anyone in during the Fourth Age. Sam? He's a little bit ring-bearer, grant him admittance. Gimli? Legolas knows the guy, he can enter.
@@Arashmickey You're selling Gimli short! (Pun intended) He's also the guy who got THREE strands of hair from Lady Galadriel. Let's not forget a certain elf went ape-shit because she wouldn't give him such a gift.
This might be a shot in the dark but have you ever thought about covering the Wheel of Time series? Finished up Lord of Chaos and I'd like to see your take covering the battle of Dumai's Wells. :)
If LOTR went full on series with time to breathe and hour-length episodes, I can see how the Scouring of the Shire can be a good bookend to the hobbits' journey and evoking Tolkien's themes as was done in the book.
For the Jackson Trilogy though? Yeah I think it was a good move to cut it out or rearrange some things. It may mean that many not even know of the Scouring of the Shire but that's hardly the fault of Jackson; the consumers or fans should do the research themselves.
there is a LotR series being made right now its just too bad its utter garbage
@@DD-nb9rn "Has black people" and "Is utter garbage" aren't synonyms. Just saying.
@@MicaiahBaron thats not what I meant at all and stop taking things out of context
its bad because its going against everything that was in the books and lore made by tolkien
For example, the MC of the show is Galadriel but her husband Celeborn isnt even in season 1. Also Galadriel at the time was about 2000 yrs old yet shes being portrayed as an immature rebellious woman MC while characters like Elrond who is like less than 100 yeras old are being the mature characters for some reason. also Tolkien specifically states that Elves are fair skinned, yet the show has a dark skinned elf? thats going against lore. for some reason, there is a girl Frodo whose a hobbit who (in lore) are irrelevant until the 3rd age. among many other problems
if 15 years ago, you told me that a LOTR series, halo series and witcher series would come out in the same year, I would have wept with joy. now, I just weep. Careful what you wish for.
The witcher at least had a good start, thats something I guess.
@@DD-nb9rn Technically it's a series on the events of the War of the Last Alliance and not on the LOTR Trilogy but whatever.
This video involved a hell of a lot more than simply the Scouring the Shire! Not that I'm complaining, just surprised, that's all.
I loved your series on LOTR, including on the economy of Middle-Earth. It is such a rich universe. I hope you will take a similar approach with Game of Thrones and make videos on the economy of GRRM’s world as well.
What economy?Everthing is so unrealistic that trying to make sense of it will blow your mind.
Something occurred to me. As Pippin was technically an employ of Aragorn, had Pippin been badly injured or, heavens forbid, actually killed Aragorn would’ve had full legal authority to assault the Shire under Saruman’s control. Can you imagine the legitimate terror on the Ruffian’s minds knowing they’d have ti face the full night of the mightiest King on Earth?
On the other hand no one can stop the most powerful man in the world from doing what he wants wether its legal or not
@@Spiderfisch yes but a king who does whatever they want tends to deal with a nasty side effect called rebellions. Nothing ends a golden age faster
This would’ve been really great to see in the movies and at least we got a glimpse of it when Frodo for saw it in Lothlorien
The third movie needed a longer ending..
@@simonjohansson248 I hope that's sarcasm.
The Scouring doesn't work for a movie setting, it would have turned the ending into something very unsatisfying, not to mention make it even longer than it already was.
@@resileaf9501 There is enough content after the One Ring is destroyed to make a full 4th movie. Obviously it wouldn't work there being a 4th film after the trilogy around the time, but could have been fleshed out if LotR were a series with a season of its own
It's playable as a small dungeon in lotro.
Legolas founded an elven colony in Ithilien and his ship went down the Anduin.
They didnt go through Mithlond.
The havens of Mithlond wasn't the only haven to exist. Beside, with the departure of Cirdan, there was likely no more charpenter to build ships there anymore.
An amazing saga with a satisfying conclusion for all involved. GRRM should take notes
Thank you. Thank you for a wonderful video, and a wonderful series. I love every moment of it and I love the research and inspiring an appreciation for the sense of the beauty of Tolkien's works. Thank you so much!
I wish to see the lore of Thedas from the Dragon Age. Thanks, W&W. The documentary on Middle Earth is a good series.
So much talent on these channels
Amazing video, loved this serie!
You mention "space operar". As a 76 year old, I remember when "space opera" was a term of derision. That has changed over the last 23 years. There are two websites that I can recommend. I can give you names, but not links, since YT deletes entries with them. The first is Solarguard Academy". This was for fans of the 4 TV shows of the 1950's "Space Shows", in order CAPTAIN VIDEO, SPACE PATROL, TOM CORBETT; SPACE CADET and ROCKY jONES; SPACE RANGER. These shows ran from 1949 to 1955, Two of them on the early Dumont Networkd. The persons to contact are "Cadet Ed Pippin [whom I dubbed 'the only Hobbit with a flying saucer license]", Drl Warren Chaney and Jean-Noel Bassior, author of the Space Patrol books SPACE PATROL Daring Missions in Early Television.. The other site is "Uncle Earl's Classic Television", where you can find surviving episodes of these shows. SPACE PATROL being the most numerous and with which I am most identiied, bieng accepted into the Patrol in 1999 by Ed Kemmer (Bazzu Corry: Commander in Chief). I do not know the status of the crew of the Solarguard ship Polaris II, which consisted of Ed Pippin, Jan Merlin (the actor), Cadet Chick Lassen and Cadet Jack McKirgan. One of the Great accomplishments of SP fans was Dr. Olendor's co-creation of the CAT scan. I was very much affected by the death of Lyn Osbourne (Cadet Happy)
Other "space opera" universes are the British SPACE PATROL (called PLANET PATROL in th US), FIREBALL XL5, THUNDERBIRDS ARE GO and CAPTAIN SCARLETT AND THE MYSTERONS, joining the much earlier DAN DARE
Cool Man!
excellent series, brings back memories of reading it in my teens
you guys came very far from the first time i watched your videos. Your video quality has since very much increased once again!
I know you already have Endtime series ongoing. But I hope that when you are done you considered history of Warhammer elves. As in Aenerion history, as well as the Sundering.
That would be awesome! I agree!
Great video as always keep it up
Beautifully done, team.
Thank you
One important note here is that mortals that made it to Valinor were still mortals, and they died there like they would die anywhere else.
Yes, and then to Halls of Mandos forever. However, there are few notable exceptions: Tuor was apparently counted as Noldor for his legendary deeds and love of Eldar, Bilbo and Frodo were long under influence of the Ring and may have Eru's gift of immortality taken away, could be they are exception too.
But in general - yea, no changing destiny.
I truly enjoyed this👏🏾. Would love you to do more 2nd age battles hopefully
Your Middle Earth series is fantastic, hope it never ends. I would recommend a series on Babylon 5 and Firefly and also John Carter Of Mars. Thanks again for the great Tolkein series!
And as much as I would have liked to think this was possible which probably isn't. I would have liked that Bilbo Frodo Sam and Gimli we're able to obtain immortality when they went to the undying lands so they could live forever with their dearest friends.
Excelent LOTR series! Great work.
Great work!! I would love to see videos on any of the Blizzard games: Warcraft, StarCraft, or Diablo
Outstanding! Thank you for this (and other) series.
The greatest fantasy story of all time.❤
Oh my gosh yes. More great work by you guys. I love it.
Just think of how unimaginably boring it must have been for Gimli to wait until "the ends of days" surrounded by pointy ears...
Bilbo , Frodo and Gimli lived their lives out in the undying lands in peace.
they were morta by Erus law.
No Valar could change that
Great video. I had no idea the death of Saruman and Grima in the movies was, while out of order, somewhat true to how it's described in the book.
Will you also do the battles in the Silmarillion of the first age?
Yep
@@WizardsandWarriors thank you!!! Looking forward to it
@@WizardsandWarriors Super!! Can't wait.
@@WizardsandWarriors yes!!!!
Interestingly, among Tolkien’s extensive notes, there are some very preliminary ideas for a sequel to LotR set during the reign of Aragorn’s son involving the rise of a dark cult and focusing on the metaphor that, just like the white tree of Gondor, the tree of evil will always grow back. Ultimately Tolkien abandoned it believing he wouldn’t be able to make it one of the stories with universal themes he was committed to writing.
Enjoy your content. Would love to see you do videos on the Fire Emblem universe. So many great stories to choose from and show in detail!
Please continue!! The Silmarilion, Valaquenta, Quenta Silmarilion, Dagor Nuin Giliath!! Dagor Aglareb!! Dagor Bragollach (L)!!!! Nírnaeth Arnoediad!!! Don't skip this lore
You should check Nerd of the Rings and Men of the West channels. Lots of great Tolkien lore there.
@@hebl47 meeh...this is not middle earth for dummies! look these animations and imagine the end of the siege of angband
During the reign of Eldarion, King of Gondor, the events of the War of the Ring are now little more than seldom-heeded tales to the people of Gondor, lingering only as a shadow upon the early childhood of those who lived to see it. One such man was Borlas of Pen-arduin, the younger son of Beregond. In his garden by the Anduin in sight of Minas Tirith, he is in conversation with a young man named Saelon. Borlas speaks of the constant presence of evil in the hearts of Men, a Dark Tree that cannot be felled forever, while Saelon is doubtful. Saelon recalls the time when Borlas scolded him in his youth for wasting unripe fruit from his garden, calling it "Orcs' work", much to Saelon's disdain at the time. Borlas replies that misuse of unripe fruit robs the world and hinders a good thing of fulfillment. Saelon brings up Men's habit of felling trees for their own use, to which Borlas says that if the wood is used for decent purposes and not wasted then no wrong is done.
Borlas grows tired of the conversation, but Saelon wishes to continue their discussion of the nature of growing evil. Saelon claims that it couldn't have been memories of Saelon's childhood mischief that began their discussion of the Dark Tree, saying that he must have heard of Herumor. Saelon goes on to say that a growing number of people are not content in the days after the death of the Great King. Borlas asks what the growing unrest plans to accomplish, to which Saelon asks how Borlas came to know the name of Herumor in the first place. After some disagreement on who should answer first, Saelon offers to tell Borlas all that he wishes to know if he joins him after nightfall clad in black. With this offer, Saelon takes his leave of Borlas's garden.
Left alone, Borlas thinks of his son Berelach, a friend of Saelon, and of news from the Ethir Anduin of ships disappearing. He returns into his home, smelling as it would seem the scent of old Evil returning to the world.
unfinished tales?
@@nvmtt it is! scrapped but interesting plot.
@@nvmtt Tolkien began to write a sequel, but stopped after realizing it was just depressing.
It's pretty clear that eventually Dunland and Rohan would eventually have to join the middle earth United Kingdom. I would assume Dale/Lakemen would grab the rest of their area and eventually grab the mountain and Greenwood once the Elves/Dwarves had gone/dwindled. Hopefully The UK and Dale would have a US/Canada like relationship for a very long time.
I doubt dunland would do much, the gondorians and their ancestors numeanoreans had oppressed and cut down the woods and stolen their land for ages. When cirion gave calenardhon (not spelled correctly maybe) to the eothed he kinda ignored the small population already living there. And with there being many dunlendings living there and now suddenly their land was given to a foreign northern people understandably there was anger. And the subsequent wars after that made relations even worse.
@@Human-zx4rb Dunlendings are filth.
the elves lands, certainly, the dwarven lands, i'm not so sure, no humans ever lived inside big cities inside mountains last i checked. They were likely sealed off and disappeared from memory.
@@efaristi9737 yeah I didn't mean they'd live there, just that the border of the human territory would eventually encompass the mountain.
@@Human-zx4rb if I remember right, Dunland was given to the Dunlendings by King Elessar. But they have almost no infrastructure and only raw materials.
I could easily see them joining voluntary for free trade, and investment. Give them a seat at the king's council and it's a done deal.
A lot can be forgiven given a few generations. Uncountable real world examples of this.
Wow this was wonderful, but also made me sad to hear of all the people passing and the end of the elves
I guess many men in the east and south would have remembered their fallen comrads, and especially the people in the South may never really accepted the new expansion of Gondor. As it said, what Morgoth (and Sauron) had created (and the folly of the free people, too) would live on forever. So I think there may be hidden cults and ongoing hatred among those who served Sauron even in later generations.
The last being who may remember the days of old even at that time may also be Shelob, since it was never sure if she died or survived. As daughter of Ungoliant she may be the oldest living being aside from Bombadil, even older than the oldest Ent.
Beautiful. Thank you Wizards & Warriors
The Dunedain truly have the best outcome possible nobody can rival them at all.
Well done! Looking forward to seeing more from Tolkien's world on the channel.
Love your videos and would love to see a farscape series
SAM holding down office for 7 terms!!!! Best part!
If ever that animated The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim movie is done I hope they could make an animated movie about the Battle of Bywater.
The Sandman universe is a fantasy series that's quite hot right now. If you're reading the comments to take suggestions for things to cover, it could spawn some quite interesting video content....
You LOTR content has been exemplimentary too!
Amazing job bro all ur content on game of thrones and especially tolkien lord of the rings!!!
You should do a serie on the chronology of Narnia it would be interesting
It's interesting to compare the two.
Both have a wider history to connect their individual stories. Yet Tolkien's legendarium reads like an epic myth, and like the myths of ancient civilizations, it eventually leads into our own history. Narnia, on the other hand, reads like a series of fairy tales, and like fairy tales from our that have been passed down organically, it's structure allows it to remain connected yet separate from our own, a parallel reality that could be just behind the next turn in the woods.
Different, yet each has their place.
@@morgant.dulaman8733 well said!
Great video like always but really hoping we’ll get to see some dragon age videos or maybe look into the red rising books for GoT in space but again great work with this channel
I adore the art style of these videos. As a digital artist myelf, I aspire to create something like this one day. Amazing work!
Amazing as always. Et eärello, endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan, ar hildinyar, tenn'ambar metta.
Literally my favorite battle in LOTR ❤️
The artwork is simply amazing!!
excelente trabalho, muito obrigado pelos vídeos.
Thank you for making these videos! 🥰
The ships and Valinor are a great allusion to the afterlife; and the post-War of the Ring events akin to post-WW2 growth.
It reminds me a bit of the decolonisation period.
Former European powers leaving there former colonies, never to return.
@@Jack-Hands as someone living in a former colony...they are still here talking about the next billion consumers coming from Africa
@@Jack-Hands *laughs in France having an active military and economic presence in Africa*
@@concept5631 Well French didn't forced themselves here, the locals asked for it.
They have been waging war in Mali to defend the local populace only to be kicked out, twice.
Colonisation isn't always bad, before the SPQR French were basically barbarians and savages nowadays they're one of the few Western power that isn't fully evil.
@@selmevias1383 Funny how all of that sounds like propaganda.
A lesser known setting is that of the Starfire universe, created by sci-fi authors David Weber and Steve White.
Would be really cool to see a series on the Arachnid wars.
Or the wars that preceded it, that earned humanity it's allies
VERY NICE VIDEO NEVER KNEW ALL OF THIS THEY DID NOT SHOW IT IN THE MOVIE
👍👏
great conclusion! well done
Nice work dude thanks
Thankyou for this one!
Hope you cover the Tales of Silmaris and Children of Hurin, I haven't read the later one yet
Great wrap up to the LOTR series. I hope that Star Trek is next in line as there is plenty to cover from the Eugenics Wars of the 90s and all the way to the Dominion War.
Omg Sam and Frodo living forever in Alinor. This is the best news ever man
The departure of Gimli and Legolas also marks the official end of the Fellowship of the ring from Middle Earth
Seeing the Scourging of the Shire on the big screen or a TV show would be something. It’s the antithesis of happily forever after when the heroes are done with their quest. It’s understandable why Peter Jackson and company left it out but it would be meaningful seeing the War of the Ring come full circle and being waged in the home of the Hobbits, the Shire.
You guys are aweseome :)
At the end, they go to Tol Eressëa, not Valinor. And they don’t become immortal. Men die no matter what their geographical location is.
What a good video... thank you
brilliant video. I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS. THESE ARE AMAZING VIDEO. FAN FROM SRI LANKA.
Looking forward to the story of Turin.
Great stuff.
Fantastic work! :)
Any chances on a future series on the wars that occurred before the events of this series, from the creation of Arda all the way to Morgoth's downfall?
more conventional works with more gray not distinctively good or bad characters and endings left for interpretation is great, don't get me wrong, but there is something about naive good ol' happily ever after :D
What a wonderful ending to the series!🏹⚔🧙🧝♂🧝♀
A few errors (I think)
1) if memory serves, Heathertoes dis not kead the fight against the ruffians in Bree , he was simply a named casualty
2) again if memory serves, the non-elven folk who made it to Valinor did not live with their friends until the final days of the world. Going to Valinor does not grant immortality (as the black numenorians thought). So Bilbo, Frodo, Sam, and Gimli must have eventually died of old age.
This series is excellent.
Please please please do the Silmarillion next!
Cut to a couple of Gondorian solders in a trench, as the Forces of Morgoth re-risen is charging at them, and a gruff voice rises up from behind them "That'll be 86" and a Arrow fires and hits a orc "87"
I wish the Dagor Dagorath would've happened
First and Second Age warfare would be awesome please consider it. Lotr universe offers much more than the war of the ring.
Truly an age of heros.