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  • @NerdoftheRings
    @NerdoftheRings  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +171

    Are you looking forward to The Hunt for Gollum film? What do you think they will use from this book story?

    • @Generalphoenix8438
      @Generalphoenix8438 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

      I only hope they don't change too much and respect the books. Though the hobbit did change things they did want 3 films thus had more room to add things such as lake town. I would hope they keep this respect and don't do any modern things if swapping characters and forcing a message.

    • @tonypapas9854
      @tonypapas9854 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Peter Jackson and Co. are fantastic, but 2 movies?! Maybe 1. So many more interesting subjects.

    • @bash_maxwell
      @bash_maxwell 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

      I absolutely hate this idea. It's not a story worth telling and would not fit in with the LOTR movies we have already. By the way, wondering if you are aware of all these AI-assisted channels popping up doing lore videos of all kinds? I keep seeing Tolkien related ones especially. They invariably suck; thanks for doing what you do for real!

    • @ayseturkoglu1061
      @ayseturkoglu1061 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      I just don’t understand why they chose this story rather than the ones fans have been dreaming of seeing for years. I don’t think it’s definitely going to be bad but I’m not actively excited either.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Could you please give us the source(s) of the story. I have read Appendix B and a lot of HoME, but I have never heard or read some of the things you said.🙏

  • @LightsCameraJake
    @LightsCameraJake 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +120

    Remember in the first movie when Gandalf said after he returned to Frodo "II looked everywhere for the creature Gollum, but the enemy seems to have found him first" I had no idea there was a whole ass lore and story there enough to make a movie about it.

    • @DarkCreed
      @DarkCreed 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      It's like the Lotr version of the Death Star plans

    • @LightsCameraJake
      @LightsCameraJake 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@DarkCreed cool analogy lol

    • @WesleyNiman
      @WesleyNiman 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      There isn't lol. It was like one paragraph in the book.

    • @wellington66440
      @wellington66440 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      well, there isn't. just cash grab like the hobbit which is a kid's book and they make 3 effing long movies about it.

    • @LightsCameraJake
      @LightsCameraJake 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @wellington66440 Lord of the rings was also a cash grab, how dare they use the books to make money in movie form. God people like you are pathetic.

  • @SunnyLovetts
    @SunnyLovetts 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +421

    Woah I didn’t know Gollum ate human babies at one point. That makes him an even more demented character than I first thought! 😨

    • @Generalphoenix8438
      @Generalphoenix8438 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

      Yep I learned this long ago and shows how corrupt and wicked he truly is even to the most innocent of life.

    • @barryhill2836
      @barryhill2836 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

      It was in the book being recounted by gandalf to frodo it was super haunting. Forgot the exact wording but he said something like he broke I to windows to find cradles.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      Think of all the other options he had for food, including the local fish market. Killing and eating babies was pure evil.

    • @Generalphoenix8438
      @Generalphoenix8438 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      @@barryhill2836 that's actually correct the wording. He would hunt birds in nests and find cradles whilst in the woods and close to homes.

    • @Generalphoenix8438
      @Generalphoenix8438 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      @@Enerdhil showing how a once hobbit became no more or less than a evil feral beast that spoke. Nothing is safe from its starvation when it demands a meal.

  • @ethsch13
    @ethsch13 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +94

    Aragorn’s journey including the descendants of Beorn, Dol Guldur, and Thranduil sounds like a really cool way to bridge the Hobbit films and the LOTR trilogy even further. This could be a really cool addition to the movie canon, I think. 👀

    • @amadeobagacay2202
      @amadeobagacay2202 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      and this could be like "Rogue One: A Star Wars story" 🙂🙂🙂

    • @ethsch13
      @ethsch13 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@amadeobagacay2202Yeah, leading right into the films, could be pretty sick.

    • @rand0m508
      @rand0m508 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      At that point the "hunt" for Gollum was already over though. Seems like the uncertainty of catching him will have to be the main source of suspense, no?

    • @sadenb
      @sadenb 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      This should have been the third movie that should have bridged Hobbit and LOTR. And the Hobbit should have remained two movies with events from just the hobbit.

    • @bkbstone
      @bkbstone 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ethsch13 Gollum's escape is why Thranduil sent Legolas to Rivendell, and why Legolas was present at Elrond's council: to bring the news that Gollum had escaped.

  • @HobbyMedic
    @HobbyMedic 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    At first I was underwhelmed but the ideas of seeing Sauron question gollum, Younger Aragorn meeting Gandalf, Aragorn sneaking around the borders of Mordor, Aragorn finding the location of Isildors death and then meeting Thraduil. Seeing the woodland realm fight on their home turf…. So many cool possibilities

  • @corgeousgeorge
    @corgeousgeorge 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I appreciate this channel so much in that you do character markers on maps and then move them around as they move around middle earth doing whatever they are doing. As a person with TERRIBLE directional sense, it is such a great addition to the content to keep me engaged and feel a part of the community.

    • @rebekahv5185
      @rebekahv5185 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      DITTO! Although I have fairly good navigational skills, I very much enjoy maps. I think your use of them in telling your tales is fantastic!

  • @jaimy_games
    @jaimy_games 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Remember the whining from Gollum in Emyn Muil with Frodo and Sam for 10 minutes about getting dragged along? Now imagine that for 50 days over 900 miles.... the horror!
    There is a fan-made movie (from 2009) named The Hunt for Gollum if anyone is interested. Anyway, thank you for the video again.

  • @misterhoobomaster
    @misterhoobomaster 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +92

    I had no idea Aragorn "knew" Gollum THIS well before the movies.
    Thanks for the info!

    • @brettdowns277
      @brettdowns277 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Take it you not read the books. Go explore them pal you won't be disappointed

    • @misterhoobomaster
      @misterhoobomaster 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@brettdowns277 I don't no. I've seen the movies etc 100 times + followed this channel for like hundreds of videos but didn't know that part very well.
      I'm not much of a book reader sadly but if I would start it would 100% be with Tolkiens work.

    • @Alexs.2599
      @Alexs.2599 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes in the Council of Elrond chapter in the LOFTR book Aragorn mentions his long trek in searching for Gollum, I highly recommend you read the book.

    • @Alexs.2599
      @Alexs.2599 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@misterhoobomaster Trust me you will enjoy it. If you want to of course.

    • @erickhart8046
      @erickhart8046 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@misterhoobomasterI'd recommend the audio books too if you cant do the physical copies it's an excellent read.😊

  • @josephsdsu1
    @josephsdsu1 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +97

    For those interested in Gollum the baby eater: the speaker is Gandalf, and he's speaking to Frodo in Bag End (Chapter II, The Shadow of the Past):
    "The Woodmen said that there was some new terror abroad, a ghost that drank blood. It climbed trees to find nests, it crept into holes to find the young; it slipped through windows to find cradles."

    • @mrBluesky1986
      @mrBluesky1986 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Well thats not haunting at all.

    • @heiker1351
      @heiker1351 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      This sounds exactly like Voldemort. 😂

    • @kalmarfanatic04
      @kalmarfanatic04 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@heiker1351🤣🤣🤣

  • @BFMert
    @BFMert 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I cant tell you enough how much i appriciate your explanation way of using the map and events/travels on it using character icons, makes it so understandable and fun

  • @scooterdtx
    @scooterdtx 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +140

    Was happy at the news of this film, but a 15-minute video with terrific art work, narration and maps has covered the subject very well. Still, when the film is released, I'll be there. 🤞

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Especially the Maps.👍😁

    • @lyndseysheffer
      @lyndseysheffer 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That’s what I was thinking.. not a lot of material. Hopefully it won’t be like the Hobbit films with a lot of filler

    • @jameshoffa7085
      @jameshoffa7085 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You could summarize the Lord of the Rings in minutes too, doesn't mean the movies aren't worth watching.

    • @mordorobsidian
      @mordorobsidian 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Enerdhil I would love to find more information about that detailed map that's in color. I wonder if it exists, or if it's just a graphic used for videos.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@mordorobsidian
      There are some map makers that will make maps of Middle Earth, Numenor, or Aman and sell them.
      I got The Atlas of Middle Earth by Karen Wynn Fonstad. Then I made copies of various pages and stuck them in my books. Without those cut up maps, I don't think I could have read as much of Tolkien's writings as I have.
      I think that to have an aesthetically pleasing map would be nice, but I prefer practical maps that help me visualize where everyone is in the story.

  • @scottclark1839
    @scottclark1839 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    This is such a wonderful story in so many ways. It makes someone who appreciates Tolkien's genius all the more thankful.

  • @tyree9055
    @tyree9055 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +66

    I don't see anyone doing a better job than Cate as Galadriel. That backhand she gave to Gandalf's jailor still hurts to this day, and even Sauron sounded like a woos when she showed him the light!
    😂

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I don't think that was what Tolkien had in mind when he said Galadriel cast down Dol Guldor.

    • @LayllasLocker
      @LayllasLocker 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Cate with her deep voice and timeless beauty was a perfect Galadriel.

  • @Cadence733
    @Cadence733 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    10:53 that'd be beautiful in the film if they showed them both going through that area. Aragorn remembering the death of his forebear and the power of the ring over him and Gollum remembering his old life and how he got the ring. Tolkein was such a good writer to include this little nugget!

  • @Christohh
    @Christohh 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    Did not expect a video today, nonetheless it is much appreciated. Your dedication to getting these videos out for us are much appreciated

    • @NerdoftheRings
      @NerdoftheRings  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      I drop a vid every Saturday, so we are here on the regular! :) Thanks so much for watching!

    • @Christohh
      @Christohh 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@NerdoftheRings nice, so happy to have found your channel. Will be here every Saturday for the foreseeable future !

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@Christohh
      Don't forget to subscribe and hit the 👍

  • @AaronLongArt
    @AaronLongArt 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    It was really cool to see a few of my paintings included in your video!! 😄 Thank you so much! 🙏

  • @barryhill2836
    @barryhill2836 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +59

    It's really fascinating to point out that Sauron, a physical 9 fingered being, existed in the lord of the rings. He wasn't just some fiery spirit in the form of an eye. It'd be terrifying to see him in this new production!

    • @tevildo45
      @tevildo45 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      It was Jackson that made him into a giant eye so it’ll be interesting to see if they show Sauron. I bet they won’t

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Peter Jackson should be great at producing this horror scene.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@tevildo45
      They have to show Sauron and they will and he won't be a flowing fiery eye either.

    • @shinjukucalling763
      @shinjukucalling763 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@Enerdhilwhy would he make his own movies now not make sense by doing so?

    • @kleptosepto1848
      @kleptosepto1848 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Sauron was never an eye. that was jackson

  • @TusharHalder-jw7ds
    @TusharHalder-jw7ds 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +113

    I bet the next film would be something like "The War of the North" after the battle for Dale and Erabor in War of the Ring

    • @RooftopKorean917
      @RooftopKorean917 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      Not gonna lie that movie would go so hard

    • @tdubya75
      @tdubya75 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      I wish they would make a film on Erebor and Dale during the war. They could constantly reference the first trilogy without having to show any of the characters.

    • @dlxmarks
      @dlxmarks 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      That would have been an impossible sell to the studios. No known characters except for some of the dwarves from Thorin's company whom audiences wouldn't remember. And I think they'd get hung up on no hobbits in the story.

    • @kpopalldaykdramaallnight1605
      @kpopalldaykdramaallnight1605 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I want a whole movie or book abt battles of Witch King so damn bad. But that would be good thought

    • @DavidPrice-ml2zv
      @DavidPrice-ml2zv 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I really hope that’s what the second movie is! We could have Thranduil, Dain Ironfoot, Galadriel and Celeborn in it

  • @joonswhatever7262
    @joonswhatever7262 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    A movie focusing on Aragorn and some of his travels prior to lotr sounds pretty fabulous. Lots of potential here. Wonder who they're gonna find to play the part.

    • @tylerpifer5966
      @tylerpifer5966 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Viggo is still strong possibility.

    • @KungFuRandur
      @KungFuRandur 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      if aragorn isn't played by viggo, i can't take that movie seriously. Thanks to modern software and good makeup artists, they can make him look young.

    • @sudarshan273
      @sudarshan273 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Timothee Chalamet 😂

    • @elishateegardin
      @elishateegardin 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Viggo won't do it. He doesn't really want anything to do with Aragorn as of late.

    • @sayerslayer1854
      @sayerslayer1854 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@elishateegardinas of late?

  • @luudest
    @luudest 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    1:41 Thrilling that Gollum learned about the Shire in Dale and that that information was revealed to Sauron in Mordor.

  • @TarMody
    @TarMody 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The most critical point in this story is that Gollum retreats southwards, towards Mordor. Sauron's revelation at Dol Guldur causes the One Ring to awaken and desire to return to its owner. This is why the One Ring abandoned Gollum. In this parallel, the change created by the One Ring in Gollum's soul causes him to be drawn to Sauron's will (just like the One Ring trying to return to its owner, Sauron), and therefore to turn to Mordor. This is a good example of the nature of the One Ring and the metaphysics of its effect on the souls of incarnate beings.

  • @innocentBystander19
    @innocentBystander19 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I don’t think they’ll have the balls to do the baby thing. I think you’ll see Gollum over a crib, see Sméagol take over and be playing with the cute elf baby, and an adult elf will arrive and make the worst assumption.

  • @Erichwanh
    @Erichwanh 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    The extended cut of the movie is going to be 14 hours of Gollum just eating fish. And occasionally a baby. But mostly fish.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "Munchy crunchy, squishy fishies"

    • @Tawadeb
      @Tawadeb 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have more faith in Serkis/Walsh/Jackson/Boyens

    • @LadyhawksLairDotCom
      @LadyhawksLairDotCom 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No birdses? No crunchable birdses?

  • @rpm773
    @rpm773 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    The production quality of these videos is just fantastic - thanks!

  • @Nico6th
    @Nico6th 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just today I read a new article (more a news tweet, I guess) about how the War of the Rohirim movie looks "too much like anime" and "too different from the old animated LotR movie". All I can say: those pictures look great! The characters look like they were designed/drawn for an adult audience, with enough facial expressions and enough details to make for a serious movie and not a child-friendly cartoon.

  • @TheGeekMonster
    @TheGeekMonster 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    An excellent video! You do such good, solid research, and present these stories in a well-spoken and easy-to-understand manner. It's just amazing how much behind-the-scenes action is always happening with Tolkien's world, and how he kept it all straight in his head, I will never know!

  • @TexasTimeLord
    @TexasTimeLord 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I still find it amazing that Gandalf did not have Elrond look at Bilbo's Ring when they stopped in Rivendell on their way back to the Shire from the Lonely Mountain

    • @rikk319
      @rikk319 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      At that time Tolkien had not written LotR yet, so it was simply a magic ring of invisibility.

  • @Loreweavver
    @Loreweavver 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Blockbuster summer movie about the cannibalistic baby snatcher that even orcs and goblins fear.
    It's a bold move.

  • @Machina_EX_Machina
    @Machina_EX_Machina 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Love these lore videos, keep it up!

  • @MythicTales993
    @MythicTales993 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love how your video presents fresh insights on this subject. It's both enlightening and thought-provoking.

  • @paladinbob1236
    @paladinbob1236 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    news about this has been the best news this year all round i think....additionally the fact that the old fan made version is now back on youtube equally is good news :)

  • @Guayabaman305
    @Guayabaman305 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This story is so good. I think there is definitely enough story here to put it to film. Cautiously excited to see how it turns out!

  • @StephanePoirierGaming
    @StephanePoirierGaming 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    02:00 A friend of mine used this as the basic plot for a Tolkien roleplay campaign. Alas we lost Gollum at the Ford on the Anduin where he went East towards Mordor only to be captured and the party split up. The elf returned to Mirkwood and the Human went to the white city to save Denator who was a man in his late twenties or early thirties, more like Boromir than the wretch he would become using the Palanthir. Unfortunately that is where we stopped. My GM was not known for his endurance.

  • @johnbell7235
    @johnbell7235 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    In the future, he'll be sitting at the black gate, watching everything crumble to ruins after the destruction of the ring, and he'll think "I'd still rather do this again than travel with Gollum.".

  • @procrastinator9
    @procrastinator9 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thanks, Debbie.
    Also, this obscure chapter gives credence to Gandalf's remonstrance about keeping Gollum alive. Truly, the little creeper had a knack that bodes for a pertinent role later. For good or ill.

  • @colinbaldwin313
    @colinbaldwin313 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    It's so easy to lose touch with the huge time frame in which all these events occur. In the film trilogy, of course, the only reference to events during the hunt for Gollum is his capture, torture, and release by Sauron. And nobody who's only seen the films can appreciate that 17 years pass between Bilbo's 111th birthday and Gandalf's apprising Frodo of the One Ring. I'm excited to see the true scope and complexity of this period fleshed out in the upcoming film.

  • @Carlo_ReNews
    @Carlo_ReNews 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +49

    I remember reading this section as a child and thinking: „Man why did they never show this in the films!“ As an adult I will finally be satisfied

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Sorry, but I put Tom Bombadil and Goldberry plus the Barrow Wights way ahead of Gollum's back story.

    • @Carlo_ReNews
      @Carlo_ReNews 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Enerdhil yeah sure but it would be kind of weird to make a movie out of it

    • @istari0
      @istari0 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@Enerdhil And the Scouring of the Shire.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Carlo_ReNews
      True

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@istari0
      Definitely. The Scouring of the Shire would have made a perfect 4th movie all by itself. Too long to be included in the special edition DVD box set. 😞

  • @tboyer86
    @tboyer86 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I have no idea how they are going to make this into a movie, but I'm excited to find out.

  • @fadlibahrian6012
    @fadlibahrian6012 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I think it will give more depth and new interaction between aragorn and gollum because its a loong journey.

  • @rickthe533
    @rickthe533 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The hunt for Gollum was a few paragraphs in the novels now it's gonna be a movie...wild

  • @stitchin4fun
    @stitchin4fun 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love all of the art that you use in your videos!

  • @GrampaGabe
    @GrampaGabe 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Cant wait, really hope we get to see Grimbeorn and the beornings make an appearance.

  • @kanealoha
    @kanealoha 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow - I never really knew that whole story. Thanks for putting it together for us!

  • @Carlo_ReNews
    @Carlo_ReNews 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    Happy Birthday to Sir Ian McKellen! My He Play Gandalf in this movie for one last time.

    • @bighand1530
      @bighand1530 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Ian McKellen is 85 years old now.

    • @jameshoffa7085
      @jameshoffa7085 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      He was great as Dumbledore

    • @MatthewPreston-el3cq
      @MatthewPreston-el3cq 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The green-screen prison of The Hobbit broke his spirit. He is done.

    • @Carlo_ReNews
      @Carlo_ReNews 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MatthewPreston-el3cq Nah man i think McKellen would still come back to this world if he had the opportunity

    • @bighand1530
      @bighand1530 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@jameshoffa7085 He didn’t play Dumbledore.

  • @rld9429
    @rld9429 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Several years ago, not sure how many, there was a fan made film called the Hunt for Gollum. It was about 30 minutes long. Was not bad from what I remember.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yes, someone on this board posted a link to the film and so I watched it.
      It is extremely well-made. The budget was just a couple thousand dollars because everyone loved Tolkien and volunteered their expertise.
      Of course it is not strictly accurate to the lore because of time compression, but they were able to keep the essence of Middle Earth and Tolkien's characters intact.
      The dialogues were soooo much better than TRoP.
      The fight scenes were fabulous. Every RoP fight scene sucked big time. Their fight-scene choreographers must have been trans male or female. There is no other explanation for their amateur-look.

    • @justinbell2166
      @justinbell2166 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yea, WB sent a take down thing of it so they could make this movie

  • @flightlesslord2688
    @flightlesslord2688 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    So, Aragorn knew so much of Gollum and seemingly he is the reason Gollum knows the way through Emyn Muil. Sounds like it might actually be an awesome film

  • @colinecharpy1617
    @colinecharpy1617 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Love your videos! Would you do a video for the full travels of Gollum ?

  • @Yojimbo825
    @Yojimbo825 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Excited to meet Serkis next month. Hope he does very well!

  • @KangaRooTube
    @KangaRooTube 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I really want to see Gollum refusing to come down from the tree.

  • @gianturtlecow1455
    @gianturtlecow1455 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I love your content and its great to hear this story in its full state. I'm worried this is also going to wind up as a standard to measure how far off the movie winds up being from the actual story lol, hopefully Jackson can keep things reigned in better than the hobbit movies.

  • @cloudyun85
    @cloudyun85 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The Gollum torture seen may be difficult to watch. Can't wait for this film though, an overlooked part of the story.

  • @TiagoRamosVideos
    @TiagoRamosVideos 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video, thanks 🙏 I didn't know there were so many adventures about Gollum's search! I'm very much looking forward to seeing it 👌

  • @louise.4748
    @louise.4748 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Now I understand the expression of gandalf in lotr, when he said to frodo "that's gollum", with that stonecold and fucked up face, as he was looking for him for years and now he's following them

  • @MorganWood86
    @MorganWood86 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Anyone remember the 2009 fan film "The Hunt for Gollum"?

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Just watched it for the first time along with a "Making-of" the Hunt for Gollum. Both were fantastic.
      Of course they had to change the sequence of events in order to compress the timeline, but they did it in a way to incorporate a lot of the lore they compressed.
      The dialogues are far ahead of anything that Payne or McKay could come up with. Everything looked and felt like Middle Earth.

  • @avideomakr
    @avideomakr 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Wow. There's alot of story that can be told in the two part film. Looking forward to it.

  • @jaknyfedave
    @jaknyfedave 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm not well versed with the LOTR books, but this superb channel always gets me clued up in a very insightful and entertaining way. Really good work!

  • @j-dmachado4349
    @j-dmachado4349 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I’ll admit, there’s even more rich material the adaptation could use than I remembered! I can particularly imagine a very poignant opportunity for character exploration in the Gladden fields, with Aragorn and Gollum each considering its place in their deep pasts 🤔

  • @chrismorrison5942
    @chrismorrison5942 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great Video as always Sir!

  • @jeremydaoud6792
    @jeremydaoud6792 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    this is gonna be such a good movie

  • @SNWWRNNG
    @SNWWRNNG 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Gandalf did not believe that Bilbo had a lesser ring. It's an easy explanation for why Gandalf waited so long which is why it keeps spreading (I posted a similar comment to this one on the "When did Gandalf know Bilbo had The One Ring?" video from January 2023), but it plainly contradicts Book I Chapter 2.
    "‘When did I first begin to guess?’ he mused, searching back
    in memory. ‘Let me see - it was in the year that the White
    Council drove the Dark Power from Mirkwood, just before
    the Battle of Five Armies, that Bilbo found his ring. A shadow
    fell on my heart then, though I did not know yet what I
    feared. I wondered often how Gollum came by a Great Ring,
    as plainly it was - that at least was clear from the first. Then
    I heard Bilbo’s strange story of how he had ‘‘won’’ it, and I
    could not believe it."
    Gandalf knows it's one of the Great Rings *before* he even heard Bilbo's lie about how he acquired it. The actual explanation for Gandalf not believing it's the One Ring until Bilbo's birthday party is probably a mix of Gandalf being busy with other things, a lack of certain knowledge about the Rings of Power (Gandalf had to track down sources and couldn't trust them to be correct or complete), and Saruman using his voice and authority to convince Gandalf that the One Ring had been washed out into the sea.

  • @Lemmelleni
    @Lemmelleni 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    I wonder who they're gonna cast, because these actors who played these roles are so iconic...

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Peter Jackson might have to produce a film that doesn't violate Warner Brothers' DEI policy, IF they have one. We could see another Tauriel come out of nowhere and play a major role.😞

    • @Lemmelleni
      @Lemmelleni 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      ​@@EnerdhilI think it will be either a hit or a miss, with no in between. If WB is smart, they should respect Tolkien's work and avoid pushing any agendas in the film which will only work against the majority of the fanbase... which happened in The Hobbit to an extent. But ngl if you compare The Hobbit to nowadays thrash they're actually very good movies 🤣

    • @MrChrisEaton
      @MrChrisEaton 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      CGI faces, like Star Wars did?

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I agree, a hit or miss.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@MrChrisEaton
      I hope not.🙏🤞

  • @RBRN_69
    @RBRN_69 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Looking forward to seeing what Andy Serkis will do with this. He hasn’t let us down yet have great faith in this

    • @valentinkambushev4968
      @valentinkambushev4968 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He will probably be the only good thing about this movie.

    • @RBRN_69
      @RBRN_69 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@valentinkambushev4968 toughen up bud have faith

  • @Tawadeb
    @Tawadeb 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looking forward to another film from a wonderful team !!

  • @thebrowneyesofmandalore6524
    @thebrowneyesofmandalore6524 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It’d be interesting to see if they use Legolas as one of the Elves hunting Gollum through Mirkwood as he would be around then.

  • @ZeekTheZack22
    @ZeekTheZack22 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can't wait to see the new film!! Keep up the good work my dude!

  • @Techgnome21
    @Techgnome21 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    There's already so much negativity circulating about this movie. I for one am happy to see this integral part,of the story of the one ring, making its way to the big screen!!

  • @thevincatYT
    @thevincatYT 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I was waiting for this one! So thorough - learned a lot. I made a video breaking down these events myself, but I knew I must’ve missed some lesser known texts. So cool to hear Aragorn’s own account of the hunt!

  • @ForFrodoOfficial
    @ForFrodoOfficial 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Well done!

  • @user-qo8yp7vh4q
    @user-qo8yp7vh4q 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What an amazing video and amazing story

  • @IOSALive
    @IOSALive 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Nerd of the Rings, Subscribed because your videos are so much fun!

  • @wardemon5933
    @wardemon5933 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Impressive video, thank you very much! ❤

  • @BrianS-pr1di
    @BrianS-pr1di 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great video

  • @pirate4460
    @pirate4460 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    A Gandalf + Aragorn TV episodic series taking place between 3001 and 3008 where they travel from town to town, solving problems and getting in fights with an overarching plot of hunting gollum would be cool.

  • @chuleta284
    @chuleta284 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gotta tell you, I love your content!!!

  • @Wilkins325
    @Wilkins325 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for elaborating on this! It was a bit hard to follow the interlacing timelines described at the council of Elrond.

  • @sonjiaasana
    @sonjiaasana 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Currently being in the process of finally reading all of Tolkien's work and having just finished The Fellowship of the Ring, I was rather disappointed when I found out that the future movie would be about this part that was merely given a short account of by Gandlaf during Elrond's Council. The amount of lore and details you managed to provide from this little account is getting me super hyped for the movie, I hadn't realized it provided so rich a lore. Thank you for another epic video.

  • @GarrettCantrell
    @GarrettCantrell 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    This will be interesting nonetheless to see what they come up with. Next stop though, ROP Season 2 and The War of the Rohirrim.

    • @emilsazanda
      @emilsazanda 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Only War of the Rohirrim for me. I will no longer grace this "adaptation", or rather, abberration with my eyeballs. May Peter and his crew prove their superior worth!😅 12:41

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes, apparently in that order.

    • @tevildo45
      @tevildo45 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The same Peter Jackson that made the hobbit? There’s clearly problems with war of the rohirrm. It’s an anime for a start and it’s all about girlbosses

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tevildo45
      We don't know clearly what their intentions are for Héra. She may not be a girl-boss. She might just be a fearless, independent, adventurous young woman. Not different from the girls in Hayao Miyazaki movies.

  • @dubecheck
    @dubecheck 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I have hope because he is getting the reins from the start not being brought in halfway. The Hobbit was fun but it didn't do justice to the book.
    The Lord of the rings trilogy is fantastic, and it barely scratches the surface of how good the books are,if he treats the hunt for golem with the respect he did with the LOTR trilogy then we should be good.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That is a big "IF."

    • @istari0
      @istari0 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I have confidence in Jackson and Co. The real question for me is how the studio behaves. We'll probably get an idea of their take with "War of the Rohirrim" in December.

  • @user-mc9zc4tf8d
    @user-mc9zc4tf8d 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm optimisitic about the adaption but I have a sense this was selected as the most marketable storyline, considering the amount of fan favourite characters that could potentially make a return. Not considering just Aragorn, Gandalf and Gollum himself - we could potentially again see Bilbo, Elrond, Thranduil, Beorn, Galadriel, Legolas etc. I have a feeling this could be a connective tissue between both trilogies. I just hope we receive a great story and not too much is shoe horned in to do something like that. For a single film, it's also a lot of area to cover geographically compared to what is covered over 3 films afterwards.

  • @mon_moi
    @mon_moi 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Glad to see a channel covering and appreciating Tolkien's own writings specifically without jumping on the "Hollywood bad 😡" train. I'm still cautious about the quality of the film but as long as it doesn't get stretched out into 2 hrs of dumb fight scenes I have no issues. Heck I'll be happy to see Thranduil, Celeborn, young Denethor, more skin-changers, etc make reappearances. Besides we still have War of the Rohirrim to look forward to this year

    • @valentinkambushev4968
      @valentinkambushev4968 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You can't blame people for jumping on the hate train. I myself have little hope in this project and have already prepared myself for disappointment.

    • @mon_moi
      @mon_moi 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@valentinkambushev4968 I wasn't blaming anyone

    • @SeanCSHConsulting
      @SeanCSHConsulting 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@valentinkambushev4968 Why not?

  • @chrisryan2313
    @chrisryan2313 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Good work ❤

  • @DummyForceRed
    @DummyForceRed 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Brilliant video as always! I loved the fanmade Hunt for Gollum movie. They mentioned the eating babies thing but didn't show it in their version. Somehow I fear that the official movie will show that and I don't know that I can bear it 😱 Gollum freaks me out so bad I don't know how well I can endure a movie with him in so much of it. But at the same time I have so much FOMO I'll definitely want to. 😭

  • @YellowGhost199
    @YellowGhost199 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Can’t wait to see the movies of this.

  • @ULTIMAFAX
    @ULTIMAFAX 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Lurking Visitor" that is a truly horrifying image, one I have never had in reading the book

  • @gusteg83
    @gusteg83 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    My Precious

  • @northlight6759
    @northlight6759 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This was very informative, thanks! I'm not too optimistic about what they'll do with a movie telling of this, but I'm glad to know the canon. It's been way too long since I read the books 😅

  • @Dovaclin
    @Dovaclin 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Kinda wish they did one of the other books, but I hope it’s good

  • @Frilleon
    @Frilleon 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you link the video that would be next in the series for the lore explanation? I love this explanation and I want to hear the whole story explained in this manner! Thank you so so much.

  • @thegovernor1146
    @thegovernor1146 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Will be interesting if they have an explanation beyond whats in book 4 for how Gollum got to know Shelob. Fair assumption she isn’t just a base hunter instinct but how would they communicate? Why wouldnt she kill something like Gollum for a snack?

  • @Theseus9-cl7ol
    @Theseus9-cl7ol 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very interesting video, I didn't know about this part of the story. Haven't read the books except the Hobbit (although I have all of them, the Silmarillion, the Histories, all of it). This sheds alot of light on how Gollum ends up in Mordor.

  • @paulbrickler
    @paulbrickler 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I was not much looking forward to The Hunt for Gollum film, but this video has given me some hope that it will not suck.
    With Peter Jackson and Andy Serkis being the primary drivers, it will at least be well-performed and visually stunning. Those two really set the standard, really re-invented (or invented) performance capture CGI methods. And PJ in particular has been a real stickler about adhering to the source material, as far as you can be for movie adaptations. So, cautiously, I will wait for the movie with anticipation.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The CGI/A.I. worries me.😔

  • @user-lc5of7jh5g
    @user-lc5of7jh5g 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Now I wanna rewatch lotr

  • @GopiAkkarabothu2
    @GopiAkkarabothu2 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great waiting for film 🎉😊

  • @mtgemperor
    @mtgemperor 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    I am shocked that you did not mention the fan-made 2009 film "The Hunt for Gollum".
    Even so, fantastic video and a solid retelling of the Hunt.

    • @Tadzioreik
      @Tadzioreik 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      What for? Lol

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Actually I just watched the "Hunt for Gollum" video and saw the making-of video. I was very impressed. Of course, they had to compress the timeline to make the movie 30-something minutes, but I think they did a convincing job of it. You can tell everyone involved loved Tolkien and freely gave up their time and money to produce the film. I highly recommend every Tolkien aficionado watch it.

    • @doigt6590
      @doigt6590 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Tadzioreik fan made movies of Tolkien's world are often surprisingly well made believe it or not. It's a world out there if you didn't know.

    • @Tadzioreik
      @Tadzioreik 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@doigt6590 nobody saying the opposite..lol i’ve seen all fan made movies🤣i just don’t understand why should Matt mention it in this video when he already stated its the book version he’s explaining

    • @doigt6590
      @doigt6590 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Tadzioreik because you didn't watch the video that's why. At the beginning he's mentioning a movie in the process of being made.

  • @tylerboyce8236
    @tylerboyce8236 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Think this would be cool if this movie somehow bridged and connected to a trilogy about the War in the North during the War of the Ring

  • @sylvanaire
    @sylvanaire 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That was a lovely video, thank you for putting the timeline together of what happened. But it seems to me they’re going to have to make up some bits in order to make an exciting movie out of it. I don’t know, I hope they surprise me. 🤷‍♀️😄

  • @Goodbutevilgenius
    @Goodbutevilgenius 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you make a video on how technologically advanced Numenor was?

  • @olliejab1993
    @olliejab1993 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It was so cool pausing on that more detailed map of The Shire, does anyone know if that map style exists for all of Middle Earth.

  • @Mattclubb
    @Mattclubb 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks!

  • @constantchange1145
    @constantchange1145 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ok that is actually a pretty interesting and cool story.