Also true for your health and money. You do NOT hold your money on a bank account. Get a bitcoin wallet or hold your wealth in gold. Keep healthy dont sell your health for 150$ more a month. Eat healthy - do some sports.
*At this point I think Josh is Morpheus trying to wake us up. We all fall for the "Corporate Family" bs and he's simply trying to wake us up. Build yourself, not these companies.*
It seems to me that it's just a way to make a career now. I keep seeing stuff like "my second family" being said by marketing, hr, sales etc but I don't see it from techies. Its being promoted by the company and you go along with it for career reasons but since tech doesn't have to (we have lots of jobs), we just laugh at that crap.
the cringiest is as the fired employees are sucking up to the company who fired them in hope to make themselves look good for other companies: "look how loyal i am i am being nice even after kicked to the spine!" "i am 100% trained & domesticated!" "i am harmless, obedient and will smile while taking a beating!"
When I was fired, HR said something like this: "But we pay you for next 3 months!" Actually one month was because I stopped immediately, they should pay for 4 weeks of notice period. Second month is paid because there is government requirement to pay 1 more month for those who worked more than year in a company, and third month was just my unused leave days, actually my own money. If there would not be government requirements I believe they would pay 0!! Am I wrong?
13:01 Has this individual expressed a negative opinion towards human and child-trafficking? It appears that criminal networks, and perhaps domestic and foreign intel agencies, are using companies to target some individuals. It has happened to me, through T-Mobile, my credit union, Metlife, and other companies, AS A CONSUMER. Of course, I was hired by the Russian-Dossier evidence-falsifying FBI in 2010, and thwarted an active shooter "drill" preparation happening in the Science building at the high school where I taught, on Christmas Eve 2014, at 11:30PM. The "drill" never happened, but Parkland and Laredo did, after that. Did I mention that I was hired to teach English overseas. I raised the test scores after 5 weeks. I was promoted, then fired, on the same day, and rushed off to the airport for the flight home 5 days later...where my boarding passes went missing at the X-ray check point. The special Lufthansa Christmas Eve crew in Saudi Arabia offered to print me "two more" paper boarding passes, without locating mine. I was trained at TSA, before they forced me out of there, and I graduated from the TSA Academy, so I know something about frontline airport security. I didn't board the plane, and when I spoke to the airport, local, and military police there, I was subsequently detained for a month-and-a-half, without pay. I'm not sure what I interrupted, if anything, but if the plane were taken down, I'm pretty sure Iran would be blamed, since the profits-above-people, Forever Wars/Slaughter-for-Profit profiteers desperately want a war with Iran...www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/ho2pqv/is_it_possible_wayfair_involved_in_human/?ref=share&ref_source=embed&
I remember getting laid off once.. it really sucked but I had enough savings for 12 months.. I remember them saying it's not personal, it's because of the merger and overlap in roles... Blah blah. Waste of 3 years of my 20s. Look out for yourselves kiddos. That vp or manager really only talks with you and engages with you because of social norms, don't confuse it for being part of some family. Profits and losses, that's all.
The guys who hire me are the same ones plotting to get rid of me before I walk in the door. They just hire people so they have heads available to fire when they need to showcase their cost reduction skills.
As an immigrant from the former USSR, I can say that this is a cultural thing in America. Back in Russia, if somebody is having a crappy day, they won't pretend that they are having a good day. People say it like it is. Here in the US, they like to sugar-coat everything. Each system has it's advantages and disadvantages, but in the US, you always have to read between the lines and not trust ANYTHING anybody says. In fact, there is a saying, "whoever screams the loudest that they are not the devil, is probably the devil" - remember this every time you hear the phrase "company family".
@@JechtNH ye I'd say it was a waste in effort in the sense that you worked waayy harder in the hopes of a promotion. Or if you had spent like 10 years of your life there learning very little. But ye I can see why 3 years could feel like a waste if he was wanting progression upwards, as oppose to simply learning more tech
International student here... really means a lot when you touch on the subject with the H1B visa and how it can happen to any of us.. I am about to graduate and jump into this world, feeling unprepared for it but hoping things will work out. Keep up the good work, Josh!
I am US citizen with MBA. Trust me, I’ve been taken months applying for a job, yet, the recruiters never ask “what degree you got” instead “how many years of experiences in the field you got?” I’m not trying to freak you out. But the best of luck to you in the future!
I worked for a "family" pharmaceutical company that outsourced the entire IT department after we "worked with the vendor to put in a new system". Turns out we were unknowingly training our replacements. They brought all of us into a conference room for a meeting and there was a lot of small-talk. This was to delay things while they collected all our PC's, hardware, books and everything else they thought we might steal or damage out of our offices. They even took and wouldn't return my personal manuals because I couldn't prove they were mine. Talk about degrading. And embarrassing that they thought it was ok to pull a stunt like that. And they had that exact "family culture" thing going on.
I'm so glad I found your content. I have been thinking and feeling this way for years about jobs and it always felt like no one understood me or saw what I saw. Especially the job hopping thing. Everyone around me kept telling me I was flaky and no one would hire me because I switched jobs every 6 months or so. Jokes on them I now make about 50k a year when I started out at min wage. You just have to have good bullshit skills in interviews. Just tell them what they wanna hear. They will probs replace you anyway.
@@mbias87 I had not considered that to be a factor... Even then though the virus is temporary. I'm not convinced. Because once the virus is cured, they would have to rehire everyone else again.
I think it's funny that fired 550 people and there are tons of new opening across Indeed, Glassdoor, and LinkedIn for Wayfair. Many for the same positions that were let go. Makes zero sense.
@@MR3DDev Freelance isn't that much better of an alternative unless you have good negotiation skills and iron-clad agreements/ legal backing to support them. Companies steal IP all the time from freelancers....and some even commit lawfare to price people out of collecting on old IP from canceled projects because the cost to go to court is greater than the return.
I'm watching this from France - but I lived in the US for almost 10 years until recently and went thru 2 layoffs, in '15 and '17, and I learnt to always be on the lookout and was able to find another job with better salary within 3 weeks. It got me scared of owning things though ( I substantially reduced my lifestyle). In France, I have a friend who went through a layoff. He's getting unemployment for the next 18 months. he has training hours dedicated to change careers and find a new job. He still has healthcare. I had a friend who was on a talent US visa and got laid off. Had to sell everything within a few weeks and go back to his home country, 5000 miles away. It's tough. It's also nice to have savings for like 6 months in case of hardship. Living in CA, it means having at least 50k saved somewhere, somehow. I once had to pay over 500 usd for my pregnant wife's insulin after losing my healthcare plan after my first layoff. Not happening again, ever. Thanks for posting this :)
I'm looking for a new job and just found a recruitment agency (Who clearly had no idea what they're doing) looking for a 'Junior NET developer' that required 12 years experience lol. Yes, junior NET, not .NET. Total joke lol
Recruiters these days are a total joke. Recently I had one completely butcher my resume before submitting it to the employer. When I asked why most of the key details on my work experience were cut, she responded saying "the client needs only relevant information". When I told her my experience IS RELEVANT, she admitted she didn't really understand what it is I do exactly, and was only trying to make my resume match the job description in front of her. I am finding it an unbelievable waste of time working with recruiters...
There's MANY recruitment agencies who don't know what front office or back office means.... "programming" is what they say but don't even realize there's different languages.
I understand it's a business and everything, but there's a clear hypocrisy within that logic. As employees, we're expected to give 2 weeks notice before we leave. That would be completely fair and understandable IF companies were also expected to give 2 weeks notice before they lay you off. This is pretty sad
@@kennuimuffins2426 In most cases you can walk anytime, but it's super frowned upon. You'll likely have to leave on bad terms with your company, and future companies will see this as you not being a very reliable person, making it more difficult to find another job. So yes, you CAN. But there's an unwritten rule that says you SHOULDN'T
@@absent72 Lol people who get laid off are perceived negatively at prospective companies too. "Ah I see so you didn't work as hard as the people that didn't get laid off," type of bs. Its a lose lose situation. Not to mention ageism and its effects on otherwise talented workers having difficulty landing another job.
As someone that interviewed for a middle-manager position there a year ago I can honestly say I'm not surprised this happened. The company, to me, was hiring an insane number of MBA's across a ton of different positions for what was ultimately a relatively new company. What was even more disturbing was that the company had yet to turn a single profit in their entire existence. When I asked about their lack of profitability during the interview they told me "We could be profitable tomorrow if we wanted to but right now we are focused on growth." I pretty much "Noped" myself out of that situation. For anyone reading this it's important to always do your due diligence on any potential employer to see how stable they are. If they are a publicly traded company make sure to glance at their 10k before you even interview them. You should always look at the following. 1) Are they profitable? 2) Are they increasing their profitably by increasing their revenue or by cutting costs? If they are increasing their top of line (revenue) that generally is a good sign that they aren't going to start firing people at random because they do actually need to staff more people to maintain their operations. However, if you find that they are increasingly profitability by simply cutting costs that is generally a place you want to avoid because it reflects a culture that is hell bent of saving every penny (including your salary).
I was called for interview, we had scheduled for a specific day. For some reason, they didn't contact me again. I wrote an email asking about the interview and the company NEVER replied. Little things that show so much!
This is a good point. I just want to point out that there is nothing wrong with s company investing in itself, in fact it's something companies should do more. However, if the company had NEVER been profitable, that's a red flag. Companies work through the system of supply and demand. Whatever demand in the market a company can cover, dictates their supply. They can only make money by selling units, they can only sell as many units as the market will buy. Consequentially, they only ever need to hire as many people as is exactly needed to produce that exact amount of units. And maybe a little extra in the hopes of future growth. If a company has yet to be tested by the market, the amount of employees they have is a number decided by the companies management and is very likely the wrong number, and most likely a very HOPEFUL number. It's the companies attempt at projecting higher profitability to it's investors. Which means, a LOT of those people working there are not going to have a job very soon.
I sign every word you said. Totally agree with everything you said here ! THERE IS NO FAMILY IN CAPITALISM, ONLY YOUR BIOLOGICAL RELATIVES ARE YOUR FAMILY
Y'know Josh, I think this is actually a pretty great niche for you as a thing to keep the finger on the pulse of. Mass layoffs and other news about corporate moves like this in the tech industry makes for some interesting reporting that you don't really hear about elsewhere. If I heard about this at all, it would've been as a minor story in a business like report somewhere that didn't show me anything about the reality of who got cut and why. I'd love to have heard even more research on Wayfair's business to know what kind of failure in leadership led to them failing their employees like this. If we start paying attention to this stuff we might start recognizing shifts in the corporate machinery that show us where major hiring changes are gonna happen. Lets us know what to look for when decent opportunities could open up or in this case where the axe is about to fall. Knowing that there's no job security because of leadership decisions is one level. Knowing the game the leaders are playing that leads to employees paying the price is the next.
Funnily enough we sell our products over Wayfair and Wayfair is one of our closest partners. When my usual operations partner said he's taken a new opportunity within Wayfair and a new partner will be picking up our account soon, I suspected something was up. Never expected to find out more in your video.
I was there! Not one of the people on the list, but two of my friends are! Love your vids, crazy to see your own company in a video. Already been looking around for something else. Been here for years and the environment is highly politicized and toxic. Watching it happen was like being shelled in a trench, watching your friends go and not knowing if you're next...
Whenever I hear news of layoffs happening I think of a ship. This ship has the CEO at the helm and she/he has full say about who goes and who stays on the boat. So let's say the ship has a leak that's slowly sinking the ship and the only way to save the boat is to kick people off and only a few crew members and the CEO have power over that decision. Imagine getting kicked off that boat and on your way into the dark abyss of the sea, you thank the captain for letting you be on the boat. The CEO doesn't care if you can swim or not, even if they called you a valuable crew member. As long as the boat stopped sinking, they would gladly let you drown. Sorry if this was a weird analogy but that's the way I keep myself from becoming too attached to a company.
It's even more excellent if you follow it through. The CEO/captain is the one who ran the ship into the iceberg in the first place. But then, in an effort to save the sinking ship, they then have the genius idea to throw overboard/fire the very ones trying desperately to repair the damage and bail out the water the ship has taken on.
@@fireball6625 I look at this with rose tinted glasses; companies will realise all of their eggs are in one basket with China, something like Coronavirus or any future trade deals or embargo's could cripple their company if their supply is cut off. They might just start broadening their manufacturing options to outside of China because of this.
An eye opener was being let go a week to Christmas last year. Everything Josh said is true. There is no such thing as company family. You are simply just a line on a spreadsheet as a tool for HR to pick and choose who to let go. Always have a back up plan in motion. ✌🏾
When I worked for Microsoft a few years ago, literally a few days before Christmas, me and several of my coworkers were told we had a meeting at x time in whatever room so we show up there and I jokingly say they are gonna fire us, jokes on me they fired us because they wanted to go into a different direction. That’s the Microsoft family right there.
Never forget that companies only see numbers. That's it. If they think that they can save a few bucks by letting you go, they won't hesitate for a second. By the same token, if YOU decide to quit on your own terms, it will cost them money. This is why they do all of this #corporatecringe. Because they want you to leave ONLY on their terms. Always have a backup plan/money in your bank/investments/passive income/side hustles. Only you can guarantee your own income.
At least that's microsoft. I got clipped on New Years Eve by a company that most of the world has never heard of because my manager had personal beef lol
“It’s just business!” That’s Josh’s point. You are in business with your company, selling your time and labor for money. The message is that you don’t have to (and shouldn’t) only be in business with one entity at a time. No company has only one customer, and no freelancer has just one client (ideally). You are in the business of exchanging your time and/or labor for money so you can pay your bills and live your life. Go find ways to expand your marketable skillset and increase your potential clientele. Your job is not your family. It’s just business.
I drove trucks before entering IT, and I make sure to keep my CDL active. I recently entered the IT job market again and it is looking a bit sour. But at any point in time, I can make one phone call and be in the driver's seat of a semi-truck, making $2000+ per week. There is a constant shortage of truck drivers, so if you have a clean record and are willing to work, pretty much anybody will hire you on the spot, on your own terms. Oh, and did I mention that I can actually live in the truck? Heck, I even know people who live in a truck for 9 weeks, then just chill in SE Asia for a month or two. Another thing you can do is move your family (if you have a wife and kids) somewhere where the cost of living is cheaper (Panama and Thailand are two of the best in that regard - safe and cheap). Meanwhile, you procure your income from a western country. You can either get a remote job or do the trucking/oilfield thing (1-month on/1-month off). None of this will work if you don't get a handle on your finances. Meaning that if you rack up credit cards/car loans, you will be living paycheck-to-paycheck. Instead (and this is my personal opinion - not financial advice), try to live as cheap as you comfortably can, while saving/investing the rest. This way, if (and when) your company "family" decides to kick you to the curb, you won't really care.
@@OffGridInvestor or you actually run your full 70 hours per week. Current pay is $.70 per mile and if you run at least 3,000 per week, you can easily clear that.
"If knew that my company just let go 550+ employees. I'm about to be looking for a new job!... And this is no Tesla; it's just dropshipping furniture from China." 🤣😂🤣😂
Why would anyone disagree with these facts you spitting ? This is not rocket science. I hope those people find work soon. The market can still hire them all . There still a need out there . Keep up the good work man .
Hey you reading the comments, you beautiful precious snowflake, you're just a line in an Excel spreadsheet, wake up and secure your skillset, forget about the status, I used to be an idiot graduate data science corporate slave but not anymore. Love from France
@@hahhahiaduw its fine. Just make sure to keep your skills fresh and be ready for anything. Companies give a false sense of security and some will become complacent.
Hey Josh. Just letting you know that I am grateful for your videos. I found your "bad jr programmer job posts" right when I was in the middle of applying, having just graduated. With your help I found everything I need. I work for a game company that's decently paid, really fun, completely flexible with hours and with remote work, super fun to be around but also not brainwashy or crunchy. They even said openly "we aren't a family, we're a professional team", which I really appreciated, and everyone there is super cool. It would have been a lot more likely for me to end up in a terrible soul crushing place without some of the more eye-opening stuff I found here. Thank you! I will try to donate sometime.
the reason there aren't more posts from former Wayfair employees talking shit about Wayfair is because they're too busy trying not to become homeless to post complaints on LinkedIn
Usually there's some type of separation agreement that prevents employees from saying anything bad about the employer. And perhaps as a part of the agreement, the ex-employee gets some type of severance.
It was created and circulated on LinkedIn. It’s how they populated the sheet. Search Wayfair and scroll down and you’ll find it and the guy who created it.
I worked there for three years in Engineering. There are (were now) some very talented individuals there, but as a whole that company is a systematic failure and a ticking time bomb. I quit last October just to see this news unfold in real time (kept in contact with a lot of colleagues), was heartbreaking to see.
I've been unemployed for 9 months, my first day on my new job is tomorrow. I'm a 3D artist, so jobs are competitive and not very abundant if you don't have industry experience. In my job search, I applied to Wayfair multiple times; it's crazy to think this was on the horizon for people who applied. It's also crazy to think after months of unemployment, if I had gotten that job I'd have to relocate to eventually be axed. Yikes.
Maybe these people are being positive simply due to self preservation and I can't blame them much. Being positive about the whole ordeal could look better to future employers with not being homeless a good motivation to suck it up. Regardless, I agree looking for a new job ASAP even if you weren't fired is a good course of action. The company obviously has problems and something like this is a huge warning sign that things could very possibly get much worse in the future.
I like the way you put that Josh. There is no job security, only job skills security and your ability to leverage your skills to do better for yourself.
100% spot on. No bs, no sugar coating. Just the facts. But for some it does take time to grab hold of. Especially if you are currently employed, and in a similar situation.. Stay strong, and just do you. Look after you. As Josh is always saying. 👏👏👏👍
JuST ChAnGe YouR OwN PeRsPeCtiVe BrO Geez these people are the problem, if everyone would understand that companies don't look out for you everyone would be better
This is the reason I've come to despise many (not all) motivation speakers who say all you need to do succeed in life is change your perspective. OK, sure..
I have been in HR for 15 years and I have worked for Fortune 500 companies and I actually interviewed for a Wayfair job 4 weeks ago and a former colleague of mines works there. The reviews you read on Glassdoor are very much true. Joshua is right companies are really just out to use you and through you away. If you don't like to play politics you won't go far. There are exceptions to the rule, however Joshua is right for the most part. I would recommend two books "Corporate Confidentials" and "What Does Somebody Have To Do To Get A Job Around Here" both by Cynthia Shapiro. They are older books but they still apply to corporate america today. Always look out for yourself first while pretending to be looking out for the company first!
I have a different perspective, every time I was fired I walked up to the boss and said ‘thanks for giving me this opportunity, I really appreciate it. See you around’. I genuinely meant it. I don’t have any hate toward those workplaces.I would always seen them cringe 😬 and feel uncomfortable. Made my day. Haha
I love the company I work for but realize once I lose my manager things I love about it are going to change, so I took a Java course at a university paid for by my company to have just in case I need it.
Apply to jobs while you have a job. Do it while you do have financial security in the form of a presently stable job, so you aren't desperate and have a strong negotiating position.
I think that some companies do genuinely care about their employees. I wouldn't blame an entire organization for something like that. The reality is that software projects tend to be very ambitious and it's difficult to predict the future when you are a building an agile product. Your title is pretty cool also, and I see how it can be appealing because you do have more of a sense of job security because your job is primarily based on your performance, but I don't think things are always so black and white. I applaud your tenacity though. Thanks for the videos!
As always I appreciate your blatant honesty! You've been through a lot, and we appreciate you sharing the wisdom that you have gained from your experience!
I was laid off about a year ago from a company that I trusted. I can relate to many of your points. Now I don’t trust any company to take care of me or be my family. My loyalty is to myself.
lol the "just change your perspective" commentor sounds like he's never had an actual job in his life and believes in this rosy, idealised view of capitalism while never having actually experienced what it's like to work in the hellscape that is the actual world of employment in this system. What a bootlicker.
Talking about the comments around 5:00 I've recently discovered your videos and love how you have shown the correct way of dealing with personal/family trauma. By using it to motivate to learn from to become better/stronger. For too long as a society we have conditioned people to be victims and blame others for everything. Thank you for being real and joining the few of us who still swim against the current.
I have a job, but I keep looking for contract job. I only care about the money, it's just business hun. And please have some savings to cushion your fall.
Man, we're very lucky to have Josh. The truth that he says allows us to prevent tragedies that may happen in our careers. God bless this guy, seriously. Always look for yourselves.
@@fpswitchs1799 lol how funny and justified would it be if tons of their current employees leave them without notice just as a massive fuck you? Obviously unlikely to happen but it would send a message to all employers not to pull that fuckery again.
I am so glad your channel exists and this content is provided. I echo every video completely but we need people like you to deliver it. I’ve been self employed for over 4 years now and it has been the best decision ever. If people are going to stay tied to an employer at least they should be trying to create alternative revenue streams but we all know that doesn’t happen. Most people instead spends everything they earn on cars and houses. When I was quitting my corporate job as a software architect back in 2015, people thought I was crazy and some people said things like “I don’t know why anyone would ever leave this company” because things like 100% 401k match, 30-40% bonuses, paid Cadillac health care, etc. and I would always say “because some of us are smart enough to understand that those are the scraps. If the people above can afford to give you that, stop and think about what the owners have”. Other people I talked to said things like “I can’t afford to take the pay cut from leaving this job”. I’m talking about the highest paying employer in Wisconsin, so I just shake my head because it’s just people thinking their paycheck is always gonna be there and they are clearly unprepared for when they lose that high income and take a 50k haircut. I see people banking their incomes on these high housing payments and new cars and it’s mind blowing how much confidence the brainwashed masses have in regards to their stability.
Josh, I just found your channel. I'm with you, never truer words said. People are living in delusional bubbles. We haven't seen the worst of these type of stories yet. All for one and Soup kitchens for all.
Happened to me, moved with my family to Prague and 3 months later, the company closed. Everyone was done due to the whole company closing its doors. So I can relate to the guy with the H1B visa.
Dave Ramsey tells us to get a job and be a respectful and ethical employee. Josh tells us how to be smart when finding a job as and what to expect from all employers. We are a cost that are supposed to make the company as much of a profit as possible or get fired.
@@GreenPlasticWaterCan once their respect for me goes out the door so does mine for them. Ethics will stay in place for me, that is just integrity for me, if their ethics go mine won't, but respect is a different subject.
Don't criticize Dave Ramsey. He has built a business empire by dispensing the same financially questionable advice, word for word, for the last 25 years. This would be the same as a software developer writing a bubble sort program in COBOL, over and over again, for the last 25 years.
@@marcdonvito6485 Dave Sam, and Neils Wullems, Aw man, I totally have a miscommunication bug. I love Dave Ramsey, I'm trying to combine the two. I wouldn't go as far as to lie to my employer, but I'm going to be mindful of being run over. If things get sketchy, I'll look for another opportunity.
Bruh LinkedIn is such a fucking meme at this point. Josh, bro, keep doing what you are doing. This video is nothing but straight hard facts that everyone in the working world esp. the US Should know. I hope you blow up man and that this video reaches so many more people who need to know these hard truths.
dude, waw waw.. WW2 is complex situation you can't just simply say that. you can even said that WW1 and WW2 is one war, that just how large cause and effect those 2 event are. WW1 happen -> economy buble start -> WW1 end -> great depresion -> effect entire europ include german who take all the blame -> hyper inflation happen in german -> hiltler rise to power because of this -> WW2 start -> allied war machine start again -> economy recover due to rapid increase demand for war.
Here in Uruguay when you are fired you get paid a full salary for every year you've worked there. If you worked less than a year and more than 3 months, you will get a full salary . After that, if you continue unemployed, you have a "salary" paid for up to 6 months (first month 100% of your salary and it decreases every month). Maybe it's not the best country in the world to live in but this kind of stuff makes me think twice about moving to the US.
It’s always a family until it’s not. Always stay on the lookout for new a position because when, not if, something happens to your job, team, or company you won’t be 1 resume out of thousands trying to apply for the same few positions.
"Change your perspective" Serfs! You aren't living in caves so you should be grateful to your lords who made that possible! /s That we are better off than some hypothetical alternative doesn't effect how equitable our reality is. Further, competition gets a lot of focus in the modern era but cooperation has always been the human animals greatest strength. The terms of that cooperation have, therefore, been a point of great contention and people who imagine that they are well served by taking their lords/bosses/owners side on things - trying to be their (supposed) betters favorite pet - are hilarious, or at least I'd rather laugh at them than cry for them.
Seems like a useless rant with the competition stuff. In this case you have had cooperation within the company, and cooperation without for those laid off. In addition, the competition between companies will make sure that all of these people who are now jobless, but have useful skills, will be able to find jobs, increase the overall wealth in the economy, and keep the spiral growing.. You are using a false cooperation-competition dichotomy. They are complementary and require each other.
Josh, you have the makings of a great labor organizer, particularly because you help people see through the corporate bs. You should know that as other not so corporate industries have been corporatized: university, k-12 education, the nonprofit industrial complex etc., more and more workers are highly exploited like cogs in the company machine. People need stability though -they have families to support. The kids in these schools with rotating underpaid teachers have a poorer quality of education because of it. I agree that people should look out for themselves because ur right, its unfortunately not hard to become homeless. However, this country could also really use a general strike like France. There are about 100,000 of these idiotic corporate heads running most of our nation as if they were feudal lords, and something big has to be done. Keep at it!
Don't you love how they play with the language? They call it right to work when it's really at will employment. Like the Affordable Care Act, which caused healthcare premiums to soar.
I like the fact that you tell the truth about the brainwash that companies give every day to its employee. They convince you to be a part of a big family, so when there are tough times you believe that with the power of "teamwork" you can solve any problems. The reality is that everyone is capable of stabbing you in the back, right when you need support from your team. If it isn't enough, when you don't want to be part of a team that betrayed you, you're a faulty resource that needs another brainwash course on teamwork or inclusiveness. The reality is that everyone should care about themselves and that's it. Thank you for giving voice to someone that believed to be crazy.
I don't think the people on LinkedIn are brainwashed for praising the company. I think they're doing it to not leave a bad impression while they're searching for another job. Letting other employers know that they didn't take the layoff personally.
There's no way to not take it personally. That's the reality of it. You fuck someone's livelihood over. That's personal no matter which way you look at it.
@@JoshuaFluke1 No it's really not. There's a reason we're always told to not take business personally. You're contradicting yourself. I agree that you should always be on the lookout for other jobs and always have a contingency plan. Businesses aren't all-knowing deities. They can't predict themselves going under and it's the employees responsibility to know that it's always a possibility. Networking is key. True you don't have to respond at all, but to bash them on social media is going to nothing but harm future opportunities.
@@trustthe_process4371 "Naive" people like me always have a job and a really good paying job at that. Blindly trusting some kid on youtube when he tells you to bash companies on social media that lay you off is naive. But you know what, go for it, and have fun being ghosted by literally every company you apply for in the future.
@@JoshuaFluke1 Also, you've been EXTREMELY fortunate in life. Yes, you've had your fair share of struggles, like everyone, but you were fortunate enough to get a college education. You've been fortunate enough to get six-figure jobs, and you've been fortunate enough to be able to make a living on youtube. This "fuck corporate" mindset is childish. I don't mean to bash you, you seem like a really nice guy and you're obviously very passionate about these people who lost their jobs, which was terrible, but you shouldn't fill these kids' heads with that mentality. Most people don't have what you have, and if you don't have a higher education or experience, you DO have to kiss a little ass to get ahead in the world. Unfortunately.
Fired? Just change your perspective. You've been promoted to customer!
Sorry but... I'm just a walk-in, never bought their garbage.
I think people should consider creating their own, smaller businesses, smaller companies, and contracting.
@@peppybocan agreed
Josh you kinda messed up covering their last names, we can see some of them at the top
Also true for your health and money. You do NOT hold your money on a bank account. Get a bitcoin wallet or hold your wealth in gold. Keep healthy dont sell your health for 150$ more a month. Eat healthy - do some sports.
*At this point I think Josh is Morpheus trying to wake us up. We all fall for the "Corporate Family" bs and he's simply trying to wake us up. Build yourself, not these companies.*
A white Morpheus with hair? Eh. Works for me.
It seems to me that it's just a way to make a career now. I keep seeing stuff like "my second family" being said by marketing, hr, sales etc but I don't see it from techies. Its being promoted by the company and you go along with it for career reasons but since tech doesn't have to (we have lots of jobs), we just laugh at that crap.
I've never fallen for that bs.
Who the hell falls for it, never met such a person
@@sakhile_nkomo I'd take a fucking one eyed, tentacle armed, green Morpheus if it means people finally wise up
the cringiest is as the fired employees are sucking up to the company who fired them in hope to make themselves look good for other companies:
"look how loyal i am i am being nice even after kicked to the spine!"
"i am 100% trained & domesticated!"
"i am harmless, obedient and will smile while taking a beating!"
Fucking lol
Yeah fuck that
Wage cucks.
It could just be an act to have an easier rebound
Beautifully said
When I was fired, HR said something like this: "But we pay you for next 3 months!" Actually one month was because I stopped immediately, they should pay for 4 weeks of notice period. Second month is paid because there is government requirement to pay 1 more month for those who worked more than year in a company, and third month was just my unused leave days, actually my own money. If there would not be government requirements I believe they would pay 0!! Am I wrong?
No
No you aren’t wrong. That severance would have been a bill for all of those months they spent training you.
this is exactly why good government policies requiring companies to way would limit mass hiring and subsequent layoffs.
They hated him(Joshua) because he spoke the truth.
Been there too, and still living like that ...
Thats why I like him.
13:01 Has this individual expressed a negative opinion towards human and child-trafficking? It appears that criminal networks, and perhaps domestic and foreign intel agencies, are using companies to target some individuals. It has happened to me, through T-Mobile, my credit union, Metlife, and other companies, AS A CONSUMER. Of course, I was hired by the Russian-Dossier evidence-falsifying FBI in 2010, and thwarted an active shooter "drill" preparation happening in the Science building at the high school where I taught, on Christmas Eve 2014, at 11:30PM. The "drill" never happened, but Parkland and Laredo did, after that. Did I mention that I was hired to teach English overseas. I raised the test scores after 5 weeks. I was promoted, then fired, on the same day, and rushed off to the airport for the flight home 5 days later...where my boarding passes went missing at the X-ray check point. The special Lufthansa Christmas Eve crew in Saudi Arabia offered to print me "two more" paper boarding passes, without locating mine. I was trained at TSA, before they forced me out of there, and I graduated from the TSA Academy, so I know something about frontline airport security. I didn't board the plane, and when I spoke to the airport, local, and military police there, I was subsequently detained for a month-and-a-half, without pay. I'm not sure what I interrupted, if anything, but if the plane were taken down, I'm pretty sure Iran would be blamed, since the profits-above-people, Forever Wars/Slaughter-for-Profit profiteers desperately want a war with Iran...www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/ho2pqv/is_it_possible_wayfair_involved_in_human/?ref=share&ref_source=embed&
I remember getting laid off once.. it really sucked but I had enough savings for 12 months.. I remember them saying it's not personal, it's because of the merger and overlap in roles... Blah blah. Waste of 3 years of my 20s. Look out for yourselves kiddos. That vp or manager really only talks with you and engages with you because of social norms, don't confuse it for being part of some family. Profits and losses, that's all.
The guys who hire me are the same ones plotting to get rid of me before I walk in the door. They just hire people so they have heads available to fire when they need to showcase their cost reduction skills.
Was it really a waste?
As an immigrant from the former USSR, I can say that this is a cultural thing in America. Back in Russia, if somebody is having a crappy day, they won't pretend that they are having a good day. People say it like it is. Here in the US, they like to sugar-coat everything. Each system has it's advantages and disadvantages, but in the US, you always have to read between the lines and not trust ANYTHING anybody says. In fact, there is a saying, "whoever screams the loudest that they are not the devil, is probably the devil" - remember this every time you hear the phrase "company family".
Why was it a waste? You got the experience and you simply move on
@@JechtNH ye I'd say it was a waste in effort in the sense that you worked waayy harder in the hopes of a promotion.
Or if you had spent like 10 years of your life there learning very little. But ye I can see why 3 years could feel like a waste if he was wanting progression upwards, as oppose to simply learning more tech
International student here... really means a lot when you touch on the subject with the H1B visa and how it can happen to any of us.. I am about to graduate and jump into this world, feeling unprepared for it but hoping things will work out. Keep up the good work, Josh!
I am US citizen with MBA. Trust me, I’ve been taken months applying for a job, yet, the recruiters never ask “what degree you got” instead “how many years of experiences in the field you got?” I’m not trying to freak you out. But the best of luck to you in the future!
@@2Cool4Ryan so if you're a fresher, that experience would most likely be in terms of internships or do they consider freelancing as experience too?
@@2Cool4Ryan Permanent resident and all recruiters are asking me for specific skills and experience. 6 months now without a job...
Jesus christ I can feel the PASSION in his rant in this video. But he's definitely telling the truth.
I worked for a "family" pharmaceutical company that outsourced the entire IT department after we "worked with the vendor to put in a new system". Turns out we were unknowingly training our replacements. They brought all of us into a conference room for a meeting and there was a lot of small-talk. This was to delay things while they collected all our PC's, hardware, books and everything else they thought we might steal or damage out of our offices. They even took and wouldn't return my personal manuals because I couldn't prove they were mine. Talk about degrading. And embarrassing that they thought it was ok to pull a stunt like that. And they had that exact "family culture" thing going on.
That’s depraved
Was this Johnson & Johnson?
@@aruytpadyugf that’s what I thought of! lol. Then the boss will ride off after selling to the Germans
I want a job throwing spaghetti noodles against the wall to see if they stick. My job title could be Spaghetti Adhesion Director, or SAD.
I like the swear words, this video is 100% truth
Not only until you've experienced career tragedies that you'll realize how Josh's words are 100% truth.
@@beverlymontgomery9105 You're saying the truth too lol #personalexperience
The guy is woke
I'm so glad I found your content. I have been thinking and feeling this way for years about jobs and it always felt like no one understood me or saw what I saw. Especially the job hopping thing. Everyone around me kept telling me I was flaky and no one would hire me because I switched jobs every 6 months or so. Jokes on them I now make about 50k a year when I started out at min wage. You just have to have good bullshit skills in interviews. Just tell them what they wanna hear. They will probs replace you anyway.
might have something to do with corona virus? since all there products are made in china and production could be affected
@@mbias87 I had not considered that to be a factor... Even then though the virus is temporary. I'm not convinced. Because once the virus is cured, they would have to rehire everyone else again.
And then managers told the rest who stayed, “...you better be more efficient... put in the extras so we know we made the right choice...” lol
Tony Tonyz I wonder what the fallout will be for those who were retained. Will a lot of them leave?
thomas samson yeah unless they give a huge incentive to the retained employees (which I doubt they will) this might backfire on them.
I think it's funny that fired 550 people and there are tons of new opening across Indeed, Glassdoor, and LinkedIn for Wayfair. Many for the same positions that were let go. Makes zero sense.
fire them, then rehire them all for cheaper.
Isnt that what blizzard activision did it?
@@MR3DDev Freelance isn't that much better of an alternative unless you have good negotiation skills and iron-clad agreements/ legal backing to support them.
Companies steal IP all the time from freelancers....and some even commit lawfare to price people out of collecting on old IP from canceled projects because the cost to go to court is greater than the return.
I'm watching this from France - but I lived in the US for almost 10 years until recently and went thru 2 layoffs, in '15 and '17, and I learnt to always be on the lookout and was able to find another job with better salary within 3 weeks. It got me scared of owning things though ( I substantially reduced my lifestyle). In France, I have a friend who went through a layoff. He's getting unemployment for the next 18 months. he has training hours dedicated to change careers and find a new job. He still has healthcare. I had a friend who was on a talent US visa and got laid off. Had to sell everything within a few weeks and go back to his home country, 5000 miles away. It's tough. It's also nice to have savings for like 6 months in case of hardship. Living in CA, it means having at least 50k saved somewhere, somehow. I once had to pay over 500 usd for my pregnant wife's insulin after losing my healthcare plan after my first layoff. Not happening again, ever. Thanks for posting this :)
Hope things are better for you now!
I'm looking for a new job and just found a recruitment agency (Who clearly had no idea what they're doing) looking for a 'Junior NET developer' that required 12 years experience lol. Yes, junior NET, not .NET. Total joke lol
Recruiters these days are a total joke. Recently I had one completely butcher my resume before submitting it to the employer. When I asked why most of the key details on my work experience were cut, she responded saying "the client needs only relevant information". When I told her my experience IS RELEVANT, she admitted she didn't really understand what it is I do exactly, and was only trying to make my resume match the job description in front of her. I am finding it an unbelievable waste of time working with recruiters...
There's MANY recruitment agencies who don't know what front office or back office means.... "programming" is what they say but don't even realize there's different languages.
Old man wisdom from a young dude. Love it. The comment about “positivity” is hilariois.
I understand it's a business and everything, but there's a clear hypocrisy within that logic. As employees, we're expected to give 2 weeks notice before we leave. That would be completely fair and understandable IF companies were also expected to give 2 weeks notice before they lay you off. This is pretty sad
I'm not from the US but that is how it works from my understanding - they can fire you any time AND you can walk any time.
Yeah that's some bs. They demand but don't provide
@@kennuimuffins2426 In most cases you can walk anytime, but it's super frowned upon. You'll likely have to leave on bad terms with your company, and future companies will see this as you not being a very reliable person, making it more difficult to find another job. So yes, you CAN. But there's an unwritten rule that says you SHOULDN'T
@@absent72 classic USA
@@absent72 Lol people who get laid off are perceived negatively at prospective companies too. "Ah I see so you didn't work as hard as the people that didn't get laid off," type of bs. Its a lose lose situation. Not to mention ageism and its effects on otherwise talented workers having difficulty landing another job.
As someone that interviewed for a middle-manager position there a year ago I can honestly say I'm not surprised this happened.
The company, to me, was hiring an insane number of MBA's across a ton of different positions for what was ultimately a relatively new company. What was even more disturbing was that the company had yet to turn a single profit in their entire existence. When I asked about their lack of profitability during the interview they told me "We could be profitable tomorrow if we wanted to but right now we are focused on growth." I pretty much "Noped" myself out of that situation.
For anyone reading this it's important to always do your due diligence on any potential employer to see how stable they are. If they are a publicly traded company make sure to glance at their 10k before you even interview them. You should always look at the following.
1) Are they profitable?
2) Are they increasing their profitably by increasing their revenue or by cutting costs?
If they are increasing their top of line (revenue) that generally is a good sign that they aren't going to start firing people at random because they do actually need to staff more people to maintain their operations. However, if you find that they are increasingly profitability by simply cutting costs that is generally a place you want to avoid because it reflects a culture that is hell bent of saving every penny (including your salary).
I was called for interview, we had scheduled for a specific day. For some reason, they didn't contact me again. I wrote an email asking about the interview and the company NEVER replied. Little things that show so much!
This is a good point. I just want to point out that there is nothing wrong with s company investing in itself, in fact it's something companies should do more.
However, if the company had NEVER been profitable, that's a red flag.
Companies work through the system of supply and demand.
Whatever demand in the market a company can cover, dictates their supply.
They can only make money by selling units, they can only sell as many units as the market will buy. Consequentially, they only ever need to hire as many people as is exactly needed to produce that exact amount of units. And maybe a little extra in the hopes of future growth.
If a company has yet to be tested by the market, the amount of employees they have is a number decided by the companies management and is very likely the wrong number, and most likely a very HOPEFUL number.
It's the companies attempt at projecting higher profitability to it's investors.
Which means, a LOT of those people working there are not going to have a job very soon.
I believe Josh’s readiness to stand up for himself alone deserves respect.
I have a feeling Joshua is going to start a revolution in the near future as the upper and middle class gap distances itself
Wealth inequality is one of the reasons Joker was so successful.. the upper class doesn’t give a shit about the people in the middle and lower
One can only hope
honestly dont think there will be a middle class soon.... corporate world is scaring me and i just graduated with a Mech Engr degree 😅
@@wifine1951 Also having to pay for your own mental health treatment when the mental problems get in the way of making money in the first place.
@@wifine1951 middle class capitalist people hate poor people too, like they hate them with passion
Wow I've never seen anyone on TH-cam explaining it so elequent and so on point 👏👏👏👏🎊
I have been chewed up and spit out by companies, your content is spot on.
I sign every word you said. Totally agree with everything you said here !
THERE IS NO FAMILY IN CAPITALISM, ONLY YOUR BIOLOGICAL RELATIVES ARE YOUR FAMILY
"You're not homeless. You're just living in a luxurious box"
ROFL
Y'know Josh, I think this is actually a pretty great niche for you as a thing to keep the finger on the pulse of. Mass layoffs and other news about corporate moves like this in the tech industry makes for some interesting reporting that you don't really hear about elsewhere. If I heard about this at all, it would've been as a minor story in a business like report somewhere that didn't show me anything about the reality of who got cut and why. I'd love to have heard even more research on Wayfair's business to know what kind of failure in leadership led to them failing their employees like this.
If we start paying attention to this stuff we might start recognizing shifts in the corporate machinery that show us where major hiring changes are gonna happen. Lets us know what to look for when decent opportunities could open up or in this case where the axe is about to fall.
Knowing that there's no job security because of leadership decisions is one level. Knowing the game the leaders are playing that leads to employees paying the price is the next.
This, 100%.
Agreed @JoshuaFluke, keep creating in this niche content. 💯👍
Agree. Exposing work bs.How to navigate work bs.
I barely survived the layoffs josh. It’s crazy down here
Are you gonna try to apply to other places and leave?
crevice pounder if he is smart he would be looking hard
@@playea123 username checks out
Send out your resume now
Uh oh, looks like Asset No. 144356 (aka Clyde Freeman) is not on board with the Wayfarian program. Karen at HR has been notified.
you point out the truth and people still find a way to dislike your content. Keep it coming man. Great stuff
The truth hurts 😃
Bootlickers.
Speak the truth and you're always going to be hated. Speak fucking lies peppered with sugar and candy, and you'll be loved by everyone
Truth bombs, dude. Atleast this guy is being real.
Funnily enough we sell our products over Wayfair and Wayfair is one of our closest partners.
When my usual operations partner said he's taken a new opportunity within Wayfair and a new partner will be picking up our account soon, I suspected something was up.
Never expected to find out more in your video.
Find out the whole story on TH-cam, how sad is that? Good because of the truth being put out there but yeah...
new opportunity aka being homeless ... :D. Remember to think positive no matter what !
I was there! Not one of the people on the list, but two of my friends are! Love your vids, crazy to see your own company in a video. Already been looking around for something else. Been here for years and the environment is highly politicized and toxic. Watching it happen was like being shelled in a trench, watching your friends go and not knowing if you're next...
Whenever I hear news of layoffs happening I think of a ship. This ship has the CEO at the helm and she/he has full say about who goes and who stays on the boat. So let's say the ship has a leak that's slowly sinking the ship and the only way to save the boat is to kick people off and only a few crew members and the CEO have power over that decision. Imagine getting kicked off that boat and on your way into the dark abyss of the sea, you thank the captain for letting you be on the boat. The CEO doesn't care if you can swim or not, even if they called you a valuable crew member. As long as the boat stopped sinking, they would gladly let you drown. Sorry if this was a weird analogy but that's the way I keep myself from becoming too attached to a company.
This is an excellent analogy.
It's even more excellent if you follow it through.
The CEO/captain is the one who ran the ship into the iceberg in the first place. But then, in an effort to save the sinking ship, they then have the genius idea to throw overboard/fire the very ones trying desperately to repair the damage and bail out the water the ship has taken on.
Damn...this is a perfect way of putting it! I've never thought of it like that.
This is THE best analogy for it.
They don't care if you get cut up by the propeller.....
Shipments from China stopped that's why they started layoffs.
This. Coronavirus is going to bring massive problems to many markets since so many Chinese manufacturers have been closed.
@@fireball6625 I look at this with rose tinted glasses; companies will realise all of their eggs are in one basket with China, something like Coronavirus or any future trade deals or embargo's could cripple their company if their supply is cut off. They might just start broadening their manufacturing options to outside of China because of this.
@@SpareSomeChange8080 They didn't do it the last time there was a Chinese pandemic, they probably aren't going to do it this time.
People keep kissing ass on LinkedIn hoping it will look good to future employers. Jokes on them, no ones on there except Josh lol
" You're not homeless you are just living in a luxurious box!"
An eye opener was being let go a week to Christmas last year. Everything Josh said is true. There is no such thing as company family. You are simply just a line on a spreadsheet as a tool for HR to pick and choose who to let go. Always have a back up plan in motion. ✌🏾
I'll see you and raise you a firing the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. Oh, and that's a day before being invited to the company potluck.
That’s fucked up
When I worked for Microsoft a few years ago, literally a few days before Christmas, me and several of my coworkers were told we had a meeting at x time in whatever room so we show up there and I jokingly say they are gonna fire us, jokes on me they fired us because they wanted to go into a different direction. That’s the Microsoft family right there.
This family thing means: work more than what you are paid for hahaha
Never forget that companies only see numbers. That's it. If they think that they can save a few bucks by letting you go, they won't hesitate for a second. By the same token, if YOU decide to quit on your own terms, it will cost them money. This is why they do all of this #corporatecringe. Because they want you to leave ONLY on their terms. Always have a backup plan/money in your bank/investments/passive income/side hustles. Only you can guarantee your own income.
At least that's microsoft. I got clipped on New Years Eve by a company that most of the world has never heard of because my manager had personal beef lol
“It’s just business!” That’s Josh’s point. You are in business with your company, selling your time and labor for money. The message is that you don’t have to (and shouldn’t) only be in business with one entity at a time. No company has only one customer, and no freelancer has just one client (ideally). You are in the business of exchanging your time and/or labor for money so you can pay your bills and live your life. Go find ways to expand your marketable skillset and increase your potential clientele. Your job is not your family. It’s just business.
In the end, people should start believing more in themselves than believing in companies.
The problem originates from the education system. They don’t teach people to be self-sufficient
@@jimmyrustles914 Thats true at my job they cant find any good repair technician. All the good ones they have are from China.
I drove trucks before entering IT, and I make sure to keep my CDL active. I recently entered the IT job market again and it is looking a bit sour. But at any point in time, I can make one phone call and be in the driver's seat of a semi-truck, making $2000+ per week. There is a constant shortage of truck drivers, so if you have a clean record and are willing to work, pretty much anybody will hire you on the spot, on your own terms. Oh, and did I mention that I can actually live in the truck? Heck, I even know people who live in a truck for 9 weeks, then just chill in SE Asia for a month or two.
Another thing you can do is move your family (if you have a wife and kids) somewhere where the cost of living is cheaper (Panama and Thailand are two of the best in that regard - safe and cheap). Meanwhile, you procure your income from a western country. You can either get a remote job or do the trucking/oilfield thing (1-month on/1-month off).
None of this will work if you don't get a handle on your finances. Meaning that if you rack up credit cards/car loans, you will be living paycheck-to-paycheck. Instead (and this is my personal opinion - not financial advice), try to live as cheap as you comfortably can, while saving/investing the rest.
This way, if (and when) your company "family" decides to kick you to the curb, you won't really care.
$2000+ per week either means you've got family in the business or you're full of it....
@@OffGridInvestor or you actually run your full 70 hours per week. Current pay is $.70 per mile and if you run at least 3,000 per week, you can easily clear that.
"If knew that my company just let go 550+ employees. I'm about to be looking for a new job!... And this is no Tesla; it's just dropshipping furniture from China." 🤣😂🤣😂
So you would rather be fired by a company building battery-powered go-carts?
Which probably explains why they had to fire everyone in the first place. The Coronavirus is messing up a lot of companies.
@@Lieutenantkaiya there's NEVER BEEN much money in dropshipping. Except in the early days.
@@marcdonvito6485 it's no tesla means that it's not a unique company with a dedicated customer base.
Why would anyone disagree with these facts you spitting ? This is not rocket science. I hope those people find work soon. The market can still hire them all . There still a need out there . Keep up the good work man .
Hey you reading the comments, you beautiful precious snowflake, you're just a line in an Excel spreadsheet, wake up and secure your skillset, forget about the status, I used to be an idiot graduate data science corporate slave but not anymore. Love from France
and what are you now?
Yousra T. Is data science not a good career? I am actually trying to get my foot in the door into it right now lol.
@@hahhahiaduw its fine. Just make sure to keep your skills fresh and be ready for anything.
Companies give a false sense of security and some will become complacent.
Forget your skillset, you now need to be part of the 'purple circle'. Good Luck.
@@jamesr5741 what's the purple circle dude?
Hey Josh. Just letting you know that I am grateful for your videos. I found your "bad jr programmer job posts" right when I was in the middle of applying, having just graduated. With your help I found everything I need. I work for a game company that's decently paid, really fun, completely flexible with hours and with remote work, super fun to be around but also not brainwashy or crunchy. They even said openly "we aren't a family, we're a professional team", which I really appreciated, and everyone there is super cool. It would have been a lot more likely for me to end up in a terrible soul crushing place without some of the more eye-opening stuff I found here.
Thank you! I will try to donate sometime.
the reason there aren't more posts from former Wayfair employees talking shit about Wayfair is because they're too busy trying not to become homeless to post complaints on LinkedIn
They're too busy covering their boxes in packing tape to make them waterproof.
"If anything, just apply for jobs even though you have a job... "
Lol, f-ing awesome.
Usually there's some type of separation agreement that prevents employees from saying anything bad about the employer. And perhaps as a part of the agreement, the ex-employee gets some type of severance.
The dude who posted the excel sheet is about to get jumped by +550 people
It was created and circulated on LinkedIn. It’s how they populated the sheet. Search Wayfair and scroll down and you’ll find it and the guy who created it.
seems like they tossed out their whole engineering dept
I’m in the list. It was essentially a “fill out at your own will” list.
That's why i love you josh.
You're an honest man and always care about your Fans.
Thank you!
I worked there for three years in Engineering. There are (were now) some very talented individuals there, but as a whole that company is a systematic failure and a ticking time bomb. I quit last October just to see this news unfold in real time (kept in contact with a lot of colleagues), was heartbreaking to see.
Reminds me of telltale games a few years back.
That whole mess is the reason I didn't want to be a full time game dev
@@ai-bino Probably best to never become a full-time game dev.
@@ai-bino Probably best to never become a game dev.
@@ai-bino probably best to just learn game and seduce women.
Oh, wait...wrong type of game...
I love how Joshua gives us constant reminder to look out for yourself
I've been unemployed for 9 months, my first day on my new job is tomorrow. I'm a 3D artist, so jobs are competitive and not very abundant if you don't have industry experience. In my job search, I applied to Wayfair multiple times; it's crazy to think this was on the horizon for people who applied. It's also crazy to think after months of unemployment, if I had gotten that job I'd have to relocate to eventually be axed. Yikes.
In my country , some company, notice period is 6 month.
Maybe these people are being positive simply due to self preservation and I can't blame them much. Being positive about the whole ordeal could look better to future employers with not being homeless a good motivation to suck it up. Regardless, I agree looking for a new job ASAP even if you weren't fired is a good course of action. The company obviously has problems and something like this is a huge warning sign that things could very possibly get much worse in the future.
I like the way you put that Josh. There is no job security, only job skills security and your ability to leverage your skills to do better for yourself.
It seem to either have a mobile home or a tiny house on wheels, so relocating seems to be much easier. And you might be hungry but never homeless.
Vandwelling. If you can sleep thru noise.
100% spot on.
No bs, no sugar coating.
Just the facts. But for some it does take time to grab hold of.
Especially if you are currently employed, and in a similar situation..
Stay strong, and just do you. Look after you.
As Josh is always saying.
👏👏👏👍
JuST ChAnGe YouR OwN PeRsPeCtiVe BrO
Geez these people are the problem, if everyone would understand that companies don't look out for you everyone would be better
This is the reason I've come to despise many (not all) motivation speakers who say all you need to do succeed in life is change your perspective. OK, sure..
I have been in HR for 15 years and I have worked for Fortune 500 companies and I actually interviewed for a Wayfair job 4 weeks ago and a former colleague of mines works there. The reviews you read on Glassdoor are very much true. Joshua is right companies are really just out to use you and through you away. If you don't like to play politics you won't go far. There are exceptions to the rule, however Joshua is right for the most part. I would recommend two books "Corporate Confidentials" and "What Does Somebody Have To Do To Get A Job Around Here" both by Cynthia Shapiro. They are older books but they still apply to corporate america today. Always look out for yourself first while pretending to be looking out for the company first!
I have a different perspective, every time I was fired I walked up to the boss and said ‘thanks for giving me this opportunity, I really appreciate it. See you around’. I genuinely meant it. I don’t have any hate toward those workplaces.I would always seen them cringe 😬 and feel uncomfortable. Made my day. Haha
That’s one of the reasons I like your vlog,”you do you “. Keep doing you Joshua .
I love the company I work for but realize once I lose my manager things I love about it are going to change, so I took a Java course at a university paid for by my company to have just in case I need it.
Today was my first day on a new job as a software dev (in a very corporate environment), and this was a solid reminder. There's no stop to the grind
Apply to jobs while you have a job. Do it while you do have financial security in the form of a presently stable job, so you aren't desperate and have a strong negotiating position.
You are wise. Good real life talk!
At the end of the day, employees are always expendable.
Not really. Take as an example a computer architect with 10-15 years experience in a large code-base...Have fun replacing that guy.
Awesome rant dude! Saved to four playlists!
My company merged twice with other companies, obviously it was followed by layoffs, it never creates a great atmosphere. I couldn't stay there
Thank you for telling it like it is! Some just can't handle the truth!
This means that disregardless you go to school for Art History or Engineering you are going to have the same level of job security :-)
I think that some companies do genuinely care about their employees. I wouldn't blame an entire organization for something like that. The reality is that software projects tend to be very ambitious and it's difficult to predict the future when you are a building an agile product. Your title is pretty cool also, and I see how it can be appealing because you do have more of a sense of job security because your job is primarily based on your performance, but I don't think things are always so black and white. I applaud your tenacity though. Thanks for the videos!
Josh "there is no job security and stuff comes up on Thursday so I always miss leg day" Fluke :P
Never settle people
if you are currently working there its "weezy outta here" lol
Bro lol
boy you a fool for this one
Wouldn't happen, but it would be funny if the rest of their employee base quit at once
As always I appreciate your blatant honesty! You've been through a lot, and we appreciate you sharing the wisdom that you have gained from your experience!
Me and my brother put our funds together paid off a house we bought cash I don't trust this system.
I was laid off about a year ago from a company that I trusted. I can relate to many of your points. Now I don’t trust any company to take care of me or be my family. My loyalty is to myself.
lol the "just change your perspective" commentor sounds like he's never had an actual job in his life and believes in this rosy, idealised view of capitalism while never having actually experienced what it's like to work in the hellscape that is the actual world of employment in this system. What a bootlicker.
Talking about the comments around 5:00 I've recently discovered your videos and love how you have shown the correct way of dealing with personal/family trauma. By using it to motivate to learn from to become better/stronger. For too long as a society we have conditioned people to be victims and blame others for everything. Thank you for being real and joining the few of us who still swim against the current.
I have a job, but I keep looking for contract job.
I only care about the money, it's just business hun.
And please have some savings to cushion your fall.
Man, we're very lucky to have Josh. The truth that he says allows us to prevent tragedies that may happen in our careers. God bless this guy, seriously.
Always look for yourselves.
Damn I was actually going to apply to that company 😂
better go get it and find a better one and leave them unnotice
@@fpswitchs1799 lol how funny and justified would it be if tons of their current employees leave them without notice just as a massive fuck you? Obviously unlikely to happen but it would send a message to all employers not to pull that fuckery again.
I am so glad your channel exists and this content is provided. I echo every video completely but we need people like you to deliver it. I’ve been self employed for over 4 years now and it has been the best decision ever. If people are going to stay tied to an employer at least they should be trying to create alternative revenue streams but we all know that doesn’t happen. Most people instead spends everything they earn on cars and houses.
When I was quitting my corporate job as a software architect back in 2015, people thought I was crazy and some people said things like “I don’t know why anyone would ever leave this company” because things like 100% 401k match, 30-40% bonuses, paid Cadillac health care, etc. and I would always say “because some of us are smart enough to understand that those are the scraps. If the people above can afford to give you that, stop and think about what the owners have”. Other people I talked to said things like “I can’t afford to take the pay cut from leaving this job”. I’m talking about the highest paying employer in Wisconsin, so I just shake my head because it’s just people thinking their paycheck is always gonna be there and they are clearly unprepared for when they lose that high income and take a 50k haircut. I see people banking their incomes on these high housing payments and new cars and it’s mind blowing how much confidence the brainwashed masses have in regards to their stability.
I lost track of how many times I have been laid off. Now the work I do has moved out of ny to cheaper areas or to India.
what work do you do, Female Dear?
@@danavram8437 IT finance and accounting
Josh, I just found your channel. I'm with you, never truer words said. People are living in delusional bubbles. We haven't seen the worst of these type of stories yet. All for one and Soup kitchens for all.
These are not underwater basking weaving people
There actually are ppl majoring in glass blowing, and basket weaving.
@@sabrinamerrick1271 They probably have better job security than us :P
Happened to me, moved with my family to Prague and 3 months later, the company closed. Everyone was done due to the whole company closing its doors. So I can relate to the guy with the H1B visa.
Dave Ramsey tells us to get a job and be a respectful and ethical employee. Josh tells us how to be smart when finding a job as and what to expect from all employers. We are a cost that are supposed to make the company as much of a profit as possible or get fired.
@@GreenPlasticWaterCan once their respect for me goes out the door so does mine for them. Ethics will stay in place for me, that is just integrity for me, if their ethics go mine won't, but respect is a different subject.
Don't criticize Dave Ramsey. He has built a business empire by dispensing the same financially questionable advice, word for word, for the last 25 years.
This would be the same as a software developer writing a bubble sort program in COBOL, over and over again, for the last 25 years.
@@marcdonvito6485 Dave Sam, and Neils Wullems, Aw man, I totally have a miscommunication bug. I love Dave Ramsey, I'm trying to combine the two. I wouldn't go as far as to lie to my employer, but I'm going to be mindful of being run over. If things get sketchy, I'll look for another opportunity.
Bruh LinkedIn is such a fucking meme at this point. Josh, bro, keep doing what you are doing. This video is nothing but straight hard facts that everyone in the working world esp. the US Should know. I hope you blow up man and that this video reaches so many more people who need to know these hard truths.
"Better to be a yes man and be content than be a no man and salty" thats how the Nazi's did all those atrocities too many yes men
luis fuentes Yes
dude, waw waw.. WW2 is complex situation you can't just simply say that. you can even said that WW1 and WW2 is one war, that just how large cause and effect those 2 event are.
WW1 happen ->
economy buble start ->
WW1 end ->
great depresion ->
effect entire europ include german who take all the blame ->
hyper inflation happen in german ->
hiltler rise to power because of this ->
WW2 start ->
allied war machine start again ->
economy recover due to rapid increase demand for war.
@@fronttide are you autistic? That has nothing to do with what was originally said...
Here in Uruguay when you are fired you get paid a full salary for every year you've worked there. If you worked less than a year and more than 3 months, you will get a full salary . After that, if you continue unemployed, you have a "salary" paid for up to 6 months (first month 100% of your salary and it decreases every month). Maybe it's not the best country in the world to live in but this kind of stuff makes me think twice about moving to the US.
Dude this dude is legit trying to red pill us, but people are so into the system they call him a cynic or a crazy person.
It’s always a family until it’s not. Always stay on the lookout for new a position because when, not if, something happens to your job, team, or company you won’t be 1 resume out of thousands trying to apply for the same few positions.
"Change your perspective" Serfs! You aren't living in caves so you should be grateful to your lords who made that possible! /s
That we are better off than some hypothetical alternative doesn't effect how equitable our reality is. Further, competition gets a lot of focus in the modern era but cooperation has always been the human animals greatest strength. The terms of that cooperation have, therefore, been a point of great contention and people who imagine that they are well served by taking their lords/bosses/owners side on things - trying to be their (supposed) betters favorite pet - are hilarious, or at least I'd rather laugh at them than cry for them.
Seems like a useless rant with the competition stuff. In this case you have had cooperation within the company, and cooperation without for those laid off. In addition, the competition between companies will make sure that all of these people who are now jobless, but have useful skills, will be able to find jobs, increase the overall wealth in the economy, and keep the spiral growing..
You are using a false cooperation-competition dichotomy. They are complementary and require each other.
Josh, you have the makings of a great labor organizer, particularly because you help people see through the corporate bs. You should know that as other not so corporate industries have been corporatized: university, k-12 education, the nonprofit industrial complex etc., more and more workers are highly exploited like cogs in the company machine. People need stability though -they have families to support. The kids in these schools with rotating underpaid teachers have a poorer quality of education because of it. I agree that people should look out for themselves because ur right, its unfortunately not hard to become homeless. However, this country could also really use a general strike like France. There are about 100,000 of these idiotic corporate heads running most of our nation as if they were feudal lords, and something big has to be done. Keep at it!
2:57 right to work? the way I heard it was "at-will employment"
Don't you love how they play with the language? They call it right to work when it's really at will employment. Like the Affordable Care Act, which caused healthcare premiums to soar.
I like the fact that you tell the truth about the brainwash that companies give every day to its employee. They convince you to be a part of a big family, so when there are tough times you believe that with the power of "teamwork" you can solve any problems. The reality is that everyone is capable of stabbing you in the back, right when you need support from your team. If it isn't enough, when you don't want to be part of a team that betrayed you, you're a faulty resource that needs another brainwash course on teamwork or inclusiveness. The reality is that everyone should care about themselves and that's it. Thank you for giving voice to someone that believed to be crazy.
I don't think the people on LinkedIn are brainwashed for praising the company. I think they're doing it to not leave a bad impression while they're searching for another job. Letting other employers know that they didn't take the layoff personally.
There's no way to not take it personally. That's the reality of it. You fuck someone's livelihood over. That's personal no matter which way you look at it.
They have the option to say nothing too, or not have a LinkedIn in the first place
@@JoshuaFluke1 No it's really not. There's a reason we're always told to not take business personally. You're contradicting yourself. I agree that you should always be on the lookout for other jobs and always have a contingency plan. Businesses aren't all-knowing deities. They can't predict themselves going under and it's the employees responsibility to know that it's always a possibility. Networking is key. True you don't have to respond at all, but to bash them on social media is going to nothing but harm future opportunities.
@@trustthe_process4371 "Naive" people like me always have a job and a really good paying job at that. Blindly trusting some kid on youtube when he tells you to bash companies on social media that lay you off is naive. But you know what, go for it, and have fun being ghosted by literally every company you apply for in the future.
@@JoshuaFluke1 Also, you've been EXTREMELY fortunate in life. Yes, you've had your fair share of struggles, like everyone, but you were fortunate enough to get a college education. You've been fortunate enough to get six-figure jobs, and you've been fortunate enough to be able to make a living on youtube. This "fuck corporate" mindset is childish. I don't mean to bash you, you seem like a really nice guy and you're obviously very passionate about these people who lost their jobs, which was terrible, but you shouldn't fill these kids' heads with that mentality. Most people don't have what you have, and if you don't have a higher education or experience, you DO have to kiss a little ass to get ahead in the world. Unfortunately.
Thank you thank you for shedding light on the H1-B situation. It's totally shitty for us internationals here...